Re: Bibliography without the label

2005-10-16 Thread K. Elo
Hi,

Walid Maalej wrote (16.10.2005, 18:59):
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Do you know how can I insert my References without having the label
 Bibliography? I would like to make this label as an Appendix title.

Try to add the command \renewcommand\bibsection{\newpage} to the 
preamble. If you don't want the bibliography to begin on a new page, 
just drop the \newpage.

 Thanks in advance

You're welcome.

 Walid

Kimmo


Re: Ok! Here is such a example file! :)

2005-10-16 Thread Paul Smith
On 10/16/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok! Here is such a example file! :)

Your example file behaves here as expected. (I am sending you,
privately, the pdf output.)

Paul


Re: Drawing of polynomials

2005-10-16 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 07:44:16AM +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
 I couldn't get it to compile trivially...
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ gcc graf.cpp

Unless you definitely know what you are doiung, use g++ to compile
C++ code.

Andre'


Can somebody help me with the Lyx config?

2005-10-16 Thread mywebs2005-lyx
Well, Let's check what can be wrong: At both my
Windows and Linux preferences I have:

Default language: Portuguese
Language package: \usepackage{ae,aecompl}
Command start: \selectlanguage{portuguese}
Command end: (empty)

(all chackbox are checked)

Does it match with yours? Is it correct? The
'Command end' is really empty at both Windows and
Linux OS?

Thanks a lot for take care of my problem...
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Re: Drawing of polynomials

2005-10-16 Thread Roy Schestowitz

_/ On Sun 16 Oct 2005 10:56:13 BST, [Andre Poenitz] wrote : \_


On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 07:44:16AM +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

I couldn't get it to compile trivially...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ gcc graf.cpp


Unless you definitely know what you are doiung, use g++ to compile
C++ code.

Andre'



*smile* Point taken. In my (poor) defence, I have become accustomed to 
MakeFiles
over the years and the last time I compiled C++ 'by hand' involved some 
Othello

game, so that was 3 years ago. The distribution of software with neither
instructions nor abstraction is one of the perils to Open Source. Speaking of
which, that package might require some costly Boreland C++ or Visual Studio
licence to be workable for Win32 users. Light-weight distributions like Ubuntu
don't even come with GCC at their core.

Best regards,

Roy

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Re: where to get pre 1.4.0

2005-10-16 Thread Stacia Hartleben
Oh, no windows version? Sad :(

On 10/16/05, Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 10/16/05, Stacia Hartleben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I would like to try the preview version of 1.4.0. I hear people
  talking about it all the time but I don't know where to get it - where
  can I download it to try it out?

 Stacia,

 You can get it from

 ftp://ftp.devel.lyx.org/pub/lyx/pre/lyx-1.4.0pre2.tar.bz2
 ftp://ftp.devel.lyx.org/pub/lyx/pre/lyx-1.4.0pre2.tar.gz

 Regards,

 Paul



Re: Can somebody help me with the Lyx config?

2005-10-16 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

| Well, Let's check what can be wrong: At both my
| Windows and Linux preferences I have:
| 
| Default language: Portuguese
| Language package: \usepackage{ae,aecompl}
| Command start: \selectlanguage{portuguese}
| Command end: (empty)
| 
| (all chackbox are checked)
| 
| Does it match with yours? Is it correct? The
| 'Command end' is really empty at both Windows and
| Linux OS?

Did you check the latex log? Is the portuguese babel files loaded?

-- 
Lgb



Re: Drawing of polynomials

2005-10-16 Thread Gunnar
 Speaking  of which, that package might require some costly Boreland C++ or
 Visual  Studio licence to be workable for Win32 users.

I've compiled with Dev-C++ and here is a exe file for windows users without a 
compiler.

http://web.comhem.se/~u46307480/RitaGraf.exe

Gunnar.


Re: Installing layouts on Windows

2005-10-16 Thread lyx . overbored
Sorry, I can in fact see the user dir in the About menu; however,
placing my files there didn't fix the problem. Please help!

 Hi all, I'm trying to install the algorithms layout (from
 http://bgu.chez.tiscali.fr/). I followed the instructions exactly as
 specified in the accompanying readme.txt (my HOME is my cygwin home
 dir so I copied all the files to under my .lyx directory there, I
 defined TEXINPUTS to point to the packages dir, and I ran
 Reconfigure). I still don't see any algorithm style available. The
 readme.txt mentioned that I could find out where the user directory is
 located by looking under Help  Version, but I see no such menu option
 (Help  About LyX doesn't specify this).  I'm using LyX 1.3.6 and
 MikTeX. Please help!! Thanks in advance.




Re: Defining paragraph styles

2005-10-16 Thread Mike Meyer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
 Is there an easy way to redefine paragraph styles in Lyx?
 
 I'm new to LyX and TeX, and I'm just trying to use it to typeset a book.
 It's going well, I'm using the book document class, I get a nice
 output, but now I want to change the chapter headings to a different
 size and font, say. Or give the body text paragraphs a different first
 line indent.
 
 In Word, for example, I would just go to the paragraph styles and either
 add my own or override an existing one.
 
 I've done some RTFM but I want to make sure I'm on the right track and I
 haven't overlooked something stupid.

Well, you have sort of overlooked what I think is the point of
LyX/LaTeX. But we'll skip that.

 Is it right that Word's paragraph styles are analogous to environments
 in LaTeX?

Roughly.

 From various places it suggests creating .layout, .sty or .cls files but
 I'm not sure which - it seems a bit complicated for something so basic
 which makes me think I might be doing something wrong. Or do I just add
 some code to the LaTeX Preamble section in the Document Settings? Should
 I be creating my own class from scratch? Or just overriding parts of the
 basic book class? Could someone give me a basic example of changing
 the font used for the chapter headings?

The first thing to understand is that there are two completely
separate renderings in LyX. There's the rendering you get in the LyX
window, and the rendering you get when you export to TeX.

The former is controlled by the layout files. For each environment,
you set the fonts, sizes, etc, and that sets how it's displayed in LyX.

The look when it's renderd by LaTeX is controlled by the .sty and .cls
files. In your case, you need to look into the book.cls file. You'll
want to copy it into a private part of the search path and change the
name so you don't screw up other documents that want to use the
original book class. Ditto for the layout file. You'll want to edit
those to change the names as appopriate.

 It's only the output I'm worried about - it doesn't matter how it looks
 in LyX.

So the only changes you need to make to the layout file are to get it
to use the correct class file for the output.

mike
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Foreign language -- Carlos Knauer solved the matter! :)

2005-10-16 Thread mywebs2005-lyx
Hi there! 

First I want to thank you all very much about the
struggle on the 'Lyx foreign auto names' affair!

I want to announce that the main problem was at
the 'Language package' place. It was
'\usepackage{ae,aecompl}'and I changed to
'\usepackage{babel}, as the advice by Carlos Knauer.

The {ae,aecompl} is used to put Type1 at PDF
instead of Type3 fonts (bad to screen), so it can be
used at 'preamble' at the same way! :-)

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copy and paste between lyx documents does not work

2005-10-17 Thread Gunnar
I'm using Linux and if I open two LyX documents, I can't copy and paste 
between the two windows.
I can select text in other windows and paste it by a mouseclick in a LyX 
window.
Why can't I copy/paste between the LyX windows?
Gunnar.


Quick question: where are the outputs?

2005-10-17 Thread lyx . overbored
I'm using LyX 1.3.6 for Windows. When I do File  Export  ..., I
don't see any output files. Where are they? Thanks in advance.



Re: copy and paste between lyx documents does not work

2005-10-17 Thread Georg Baum
Gunnar wrote:

 I'm using Linux and if I open two LyX documents, I can't copy and paste
 between the two windows.

I guess you mean two LyX instances? In this case it is indeed not possible.
If you open both documents in the same LyX instance, you can copy
everything with C-c and C-v.

 I can select text in other windows and paste it by a mouseclick in a LyX
 window.
 Why can't I copy/paste between the LyX windows?

Because it has not been implemented.


Georg




Re: Defining paragraph styles

2005-10-17 Thread Paul
Mike Meyer wrote:
Is there an easy way to redefine paragraph styles in Lyx?
...
 Well, you have sort of overlooked what I think is the point of
 LyX/LaTeX. But we'll skip that.

The point being that authors should concentrate on content and logical
markup, and typesetters/publishers should worry about how the final
thing looks? Kind of (but not exactly) like the separation between HTML
and CSS?

I'm wearing my typesetting hat at the moment, so does that mean that Lyx
isn't really suitable for me - it's more designed for content creators?

I've been looking at the memoir class and pure LaTeX and managed to do
some tweaks to the output. I'm doing a collection of short stories so
chapters is a bit of a misnomer, and each one has a different author
which makes things a bit complicated. But I think I'm getting there.

Thanks for the other info about layout files etc. I don't really mind
how it looks in LyX itself, so it seems like the book.cls file is the
one to check out. Seems like a steep learning curve, so thanks for
getting me started!

Paul.


Re: Quick question: where are the outputs?

2005-10-17 Thread lyx . overbored
They're not there...

In fact, I ran dir/s/b \blah.pdf but found nothing.

What might be going wrong? I've never changed anything under
Preferences since installing LyX, and I have all the support software
the installer demanded.

On 10/17/05, Geoffrey Lloyd - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 They should appear in the same directory as the lyx file is?


 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
 Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 8:12 AM
 Subject: Quick question: where are the outputs?


  I'm using LyX 1.3.6 for Windows. When I do File  Export  ..., I
  don't see any output files. Where are they? Thanks in advance.
 
 




Re: Installing layouts on Windows

2005-10-17 Thread Angus Leeming
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry, I can in fact see the user dir in the About menu; however,
 placing my files there didn't fix the problem. Please help!
 
 Hi all, I'm trying to install the algorithms layout (from
 http://bgu.chez.tiscali.fr/). I followed the instructions exactly
 as specified in the accompanying readme.txt (my HOME is my cygwin
 home dir so I copied all the files to under my .lyx directory
 there, I defined TEXINPUTS to point to the packages dir, and I ran
 Reconfigure). I still don't see any algorithm style available. The
 readme.txt mentioned that I could find out where the user directory
 is located by looking under Help  Version, but I see no such menu
 option
 (Help  About LyX doesn't specify this).  I'm using LyX 1.3.6 and
 MikTeX. Please help!! Thanks in advance.

LyX will look for .layout files in the ${LYX_USER_SUPPORT}/layouts
directory where
 LYX_USER_SUPPORT=$HOME/.lyx
on *nix and, I guess, Cygwin and
 LYX_USER_SUPPORT=C:/Documents and Settings/USER/Application
Data/LyX
on Windows.

So, question 1: you're using the Cygwin executable, right?

If you install the LyX layout file correctly, you should be able to
find the thing in the Layouts-Document menu. If the LaTeX class is
not installed correctly, then the class will be marked as
unavailable, meaning you can edit your .lyx document but you won't
be able to generate a .dvi file, etc.

Regards,
Angus



Predefined styles

2005-10-17 Thread Jon Haynes
I'm new to Lyx and I was wondering whether there was a way to set the styles
globally across an entire document.

e.g. 
Title: 22pt Helvetica
Paragraph: 12pt Georgia

At the moment I can only see how to set this information inline, e.g. each
paragraph. Am I missing something?

Thanks J.



Re: copy and paste between lyx documents does not work - why not?

2005-10-17 Thread mywebs2005-lyx
 I'm using Linux and if I open two LyX documents, I
 can't copy and paste 
 between the two windows.

Oh, you can! It's true! :)

 I can select text in other windows and paste it by a
 mouseclick in a LyX 
 window.
 Why can't I copy/paste between the LyX windows?

Then, do the following: Select the text in your
first Lyx window, press Ctrl+C, then switch to the
other Lyx window and press THE MIDDLE BUTTON OF YOUR
MOUSE! :)

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Re: Quick question: where are the outputs?

2005-10-17 Thread mywebs2005-lyx
 I'm using LyX 1.3.6 for Windows. When I do File 
 Export  ...
 don't see any output files. Where are they? Thanks
 in advance.

Set the 'Edit- Preferences- Paths- Working
directory' to some place with no spaces (e.g.
C:\MyLyx);

Please save the lyx file inside the path mentioned
above -- with no spaces (e.g. C:\MyLyx\myfile.lyx),
then try to make the 'File- Export- PDF(pdflatex)
and check if the PDF file is at the same folder
(C:\MyLyx\myfile.pdf) and give me a callback :)
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Bug ?

2005-10-17 Thread Nicolas Ferré
Dear all, could you please confirm the following bug, found in the 
following build of lyx:

LyX 1.3.6 of Sat, Jul 16, 2005
Built on Jul 17 2005, 12:36:17
Configuration
  Host type:  i686-pc-linux-gnu
  Special build flags:aiksaurus use-pspell use-ispell
  C   Compiler:   gcc
  C   Compiler flags: -g -O2
  C++ Compiler:   g++ (3.4.3)
  C++ Compiler flags: -O
  Linker flags:
  Frontend:   qt
Qt version:   3.3.4
  Packaging:  posix
LyX binary dir:   /usr/local/bin
LyX files dir:/usr/local/share/lyx


In the attached file, there are some math, entered in the following way:
1) type any character ;
2) one step back in the math box (e.g. with the left arrow of the 
numerical pad) ;

3) open an exposant or an indice ;
4) without having typed anything in the box, get out of it.

To the right, OK.
To the left, the top or the bottom, lyx crashes with an emergency saving.
#LyX 1.3 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 221
\textclass article
\language frenchb
\inputencoding auto
\fontscheme times
\graphics default
\paperfontsize 11
\spacing onehalf 
\papersize a4paper
\paperpackage widemarginsa4
\use_geometry 0
\use_amsmath 0
\use_natbib 0
\use_numerical_citations 0
\paperorientation portrait
\secnumdepth 3
\tocdepth 3
\paragraph_separation skip
\defskip medskip
\quotes_language french
\quotes_times 2
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 1
\paperpagestyle default

\layout Standard


\begin_inset Formula $b$
\end_inset 


\the_end


Re: Bug ?

2005-10-17 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd


- Original Message - 
From: Nicolas Ferré [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 2:38 PM
Subject: Bug ?



Dear all, could you please confirm the following bug, found in the
following build of lyx:
LyX 1.3.6 of Sat, Jul 16, 2005
Built on Jul 17 2005, 12:36:17
Configuration
  Host type:  i686-pc-linux-gnu
  Special build flags:aiksaurus use-pspell use-ispell
  C   Compiler:   gcc
  C   Compiler flags: -g -O2
  C++ Compiler:   g++ (3.4.3)
  C++ Compiler flags: -O
  Linker flags:
  Frontend:   qt
Qt version:   3.3.4
  Packaging:  posix
LyX binary dir:   /usr/local/bin
LyX files dir:/usr/local/share/lyx


In the attached file, there are some math, entered in the following way:
1) type any character ;
2) one step back in the math box (e.g. with the left arrow of the
numerical pad) ;
3) open an exposant or an indice ;
4) without having typed anything in the box, get out of it.

To the right, OK.
To the left, the top or the bottom, lyx crashes with an emergency saving.


I find it is Ok to the right, left and bottom but crashes if I exit Top

Geoff 



Re: Predefined styles

2005-10-17 Thread Charles de Miramon
Jon Haynes wrote:

 I'm new to Lyx and I was wondering whether there was a way to set the
 styles globally across an entire document.
 
 e.g.
 Title: 22pt Helvetica
 Paragraph: 12pt Georgia
 
 At the moment I can only see how to set this information inline, e.g. each
 paragraph. Am I missing something?
 
 Thanks J.

Read my answer in the thread Defining paragraph styles

Cheers,
Charles
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Re: Bug ?

2005-10-17 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


- Original Message - From: Nicolas Ferré 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 2:38 PM
Subject: Bug ?



Dear all, could you please confirm the following bug, found in the
following build of lyx:
LyX 1.3.6 of Sat, Jul 16, 2005
Built on Jul 17 2005, 12:36:17
Configuration
  Host type:  i686-pc-linux-gnu
  Special build flags:aiksaurus use-pspell use-ispell
  C   Compiler:   gcc
  C   Compiler flags: -g -O2
  C++ Compiler:   g++ (3.4.3)
  C++ Compiler flags: -O
  Linker flags:
  Frontend:   qt
Qt version:   3.3.4
  Packaging:  posix
LyX binary dir:   /usr/local/bin
LyX files dir:/usr/local/share/lyx


In the attached file, there are some math, entered in the following way:
1) type any character ;
2) one step back in the math box (e.g. with the left arrow of the
numerical pad) ;
3) open an exposant or an indice ;
4) without having typed anything in the box, get out of it.

To the right, OK.
To the left, the top or the bottom, lyx crashes with an emergency saving.



I find it is Ok to the right, left and bottom but crashes if I exit Top

Geoff


Bug 1598 -- apparently fixed in version 1.4.0cvs.

Paul




Re: Quick question: where are the outputs?

2005-10-17 Thread Paul A. Rubin

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

They're not there...

In fact, I ran dir/s/b \blah.pdf but found nothing.

What might be going wrong? I've never changed anything under
Preferences since installing LyX, and I have all the support software
the installer demanded.

On 10/17/05, Geoffrey Lloyd - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


They should appear in the same directory as the lyx file is?


- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 8:12 AM
Subject: Quick question: where are the outputs?




I'm using LyX 1.3.6 for Windows. When I do File  Export  ..., I
don't see any output files. Where are they? Thanks in advance.








1. Do view commands (e.g., View-DVI) work?

2. If you're trying to export a PDF file, check the LaTeX log 
(View-LaTeX Logfile) after doing File-Export-... and see if there is 
an error message.  If one of the applications used in the export fails, 
there is no output file (and no visible warning in LyX).


3. Does File-Export-LaTeX work?  It should produce a file with the 
document's name and a .tex extension in the directory where the file lives.


4. All else failing, open a DOS window, cd to the LyX bin directory, run 
'lyx -dbg files' and report what shows up in the DOS window from the 
point you click File-Export-whatever onward.


Paul



Re: R.I.P. WYSIWYG

2005-10-17 Thread Steve Litt
On Monday 10 October 2005 11:27 am, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
 _/ On Mon 10 Oct 2005 16:07:04 BST, [Angus Leeming] wrote : \_

  Martin A. Hansen wrote:
  reading jacob nielsens weekly alertbox, i feel that this weeks issue
  would be of interest to the lyx-people.
 
  http://www.useit.com/alertbox/wysiwyg.html
 
  Fascinating! Word as LyX :)

 This extends beyond the word processing context. Web page composition is
 transforming itself too. Content management systems make WYSIWYG
 editors rather
 obsolete. In fact, people who use WYSIWYG editors to build sites are often
 snubbed these days, perhaps because poor standards compliance which
 follows and
 the poor underlying understanding of how everyone's Web works, as well as
 semantics (e.g. structure). It is the same problem we see with proprietary
 WYSIWYG tools.

 Roy

I wouldn't count out WYSIWYG just yet. It's an excellent way to pound out lots 
of content very fast, because what you see is what you get, so there's 
immediate feedback on whether both your content and your layout are 
appropriate for the audience. 

I've used Mozilla Composer and its ancestors to author Troubleshooters.Com 
since January 1997, and as far as I can tell by my logs, Troubleshooters.Com 
hasn't been snubbed. When I write a web page, I can quickly lay it out 
without worrying about either conforming to past policies or creating new 
ones.

Some wysiwyg authoring environemnts have styles, which make them capable of 
wygiwym if one uses the styles. In such cases, wysiwyg's only advantage is 
you can experimentally fine tune in the gui, and once you have it the way you 
like it, you can make it into a style.

I'm not sure TeX based authoring will ever gain significant mind share, 
because it's just too time consuming to make styles (environments). I've 
created my own .layout files for each of my books, and in each .layout file, 
the debugging phase for each command and environment has been excessive, like 
a day apiece. Contrast that to my work with WordPerfect 5.1, where creating 
even a complex style took 5 minutes. In MSWord, it took 10 to 15 minutes.

There's only one situation where I use TeX based authoring (via LyX), full 
length books. And there's only one reason I use LyX-LaTeX-TeX for full 
length books -- because the typeset result looks so darned good. And of 
course, with something as long as a book, fine tuning would be really 
obnoxious.

But for day to day short stories and web pages, I'm a WYSIWYG man.

SteveT

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aspell and ispell troubles

2005-10-17 Thread Giorgio Zavarise
In trying to get a spellchecker working for LyX I had the following 
troubles

(I AM USING LyX FOR MAC, OSX 10.3.9):

ASPELL:
istallation was ok, I activated all the dictionaries on the control 
panel, but I get the following error when using LyX:
 The file /usr/local/lib/aspell-0.60/english can not be opened for 
reading.
Well, the folder exists, and it contains several things but not that 
file. I am suspicious that the aspell installer put these things in 
another folder like /Library/Application Support/cocoAspell Is there 
a way to fix the problem?


ISPELL:
I got a tar file which requires some knowledge to be installed. Is 
there any binary package for non-expert users (OSX)?


best regards

Giorgio Zavarise




Problems with my editor's note environment

2005-10-17 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all,

My editor's not environment has 2 problems:

1. I cannot center the word Editor's Note
2. The line spacing on the last paragraph in this environment is spaced much 
wider than other paragraphs in the same environment.

Note that the base for my layout file is memoir.

Here's my editor's note environment:

% ### whitebox is basis for StartNote and EndNote ###
% ### Implements 80% width, and indented paragraphs. ###
\newenvironment{whitebox}[0]%
  {%
  \setlength{\widthchange}{-2in}%
  \setlength{\minipagewidth}{\textwidth}%
  \addtolength{\minipagewidth}{\widthchange}%
  \hspace{-0.5\widthchange}%
  \begin{minipage}[]{\minipagewidth}%
  \begin{bfseries}%%
  Editor's Note\\[.2in]%
  \begin{tiny}%%
  \setlength\parindent{16pt}%%
  }%
  {%
  \end{tiny}%
  \end{bfseries}%
  \par
  \end{minipage}%
  ~\\[0.1in]
  }%


If I use 

\center{Editor's Note}\\

it centers everything in the minipage -- not just the words Editor's Note. Go 
figure.

I'm sure my mistakes are minor, but I can't find them. Anybody have an idea?

Thanks

SteveT

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Re: copy and paste between lyx documents does not work - why not?

2005-10-17 Thread Georg Baum
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm using Linux and if I open two LyX documents, I
 can't copy and paste
 between the two windows.
 
 Oh, you can! It's true! :)
 
 I can select text in other windows and paste it by a
 mouseclick in a LyX
 window.
 Why can't I copy/paste between the LyX windows?
 
 Then, do the following: Select the text in your
 first Lyx window, press Ctrl+C, then switch to the
 other Lyx window and press THE MIDDLE BUTTON OF YOUR
 MOUSE! :)

That does only work for text (and looses all formatting), not for tables,
graphics etc. These can only be copied between documents opened in the same
LyX instance.


Georg



Re: Problems with my editor's note environment

2005-10-17 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd
- Original Message - 
From: Steve Litt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 5:12 PM
Subject: Problems with my editor's note environment



Hi all,

My editor's not environment has 2 problems:

1. I cannot center the word Editor's Note
2. The line spacing on the last paragraph in this environment is spaced 
much

wider than other paragraphs in the same environment.

Note that the base for my layout file is memoir.

Here's my editor's note environment:

% ### whitebox is basis for StartNote and EndNote ###
% ### Implements 80% width, and indented paragraphs. ###
\newenvironment{whitebox}[0]%
 {%
 \setlength{\widthchange}{-2in}%
 \setlength{\minipagewidth}{\textwidth}%
 \addtolength{\minipagewidth}{\widthchange}%
 \hspace{-0.5\widthchange}%
 \begin{minipage}[]{\minipagewidth}%
 \begin{bfseries}%%
 Editor's Note\\[.2in]%
 \begin{tiny}%%
 \setlength\parindent{16pt}%%
 }%
 {%
 \end{tiny}%
 \end{bfseries}%
 \par
 \end{minipage}%
 ~\\[0.1in]
 }%


If I use

\center{Editor's Note}\\

it centers everything in the minipage -- not just the words Editor's Note. 
Go

figure.


I think this is correct. Everything after center will be centered until you 
tell it to do something else like raggedleft or raggedright


Not sure about the second issue as I couldn't seem to get the environment to 
work? If you could send a lyx file off list to me with it 'working'  I will 
happily fiddle with it for you.


Geoff



I'm sure my mistakes are minor, but I can't find them. Anybody have an 
idea?


Thanks

SteveT

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Re: aspell and ispell troubles

2005-10-17 Thread Andre Berger
* Giorgio Zavarise [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2005-10-17 18:20 +0200:
 In trying to get a spellchecker working for LyX I had the following 
 troubles
 (I AM USING LyX FOR MAC, OSX 10.3.9):
 
 ASPELL:
 istallation was ok, I activated all the dictionaries on the control 
 panel, but I get the following error when using LyX:
  The file /usr/local/lib/aspell-0.60/english can not be opened for 
 reading.
 Well, the folder exists, and it contains several things but not that 
 file. I am suspicious that the aspell installer put these things in 
 another folder like /Library/Application Support/cocoAspell Is there 
 a way to fix the problem?

There is. 

You need to install the dictionary/-ies.

1. Select aspell (not ispell) in the LyX Preferences dialog, save.

2. In Terminal.app,

  cd /Library/Application\ Support/cocoAspell/aspell6-en-6.0-0
  sudo ./configure  sudo make
  sudo make install

and repeat steps 2 and 3 likewise for each additional dictionary you
want to install.

(That's a quote from an earlier post of mine, it should really be
added to the FAQ!)

 ISPELL:
 I got a tar file which requires some knowledge to be installed. Is 
 there any binary package for non-expert users (OSX)?

aspell features a compatibility mode, if you really really need it.

-Andre


Re: aspell and ispell troubles

2005-10-17 Thread Bennett Helm

On Oct 17, 2005, at 12:11 PM, Giorgio Zavarise wrote:

In trying to get a spellchecker working for LyX I had the following  
troubles

(I AM USING LyX FOR MAC, OSX 10.3.9):

ASPELL:
istallation was ok, I activated all the dictionaries on the control  
panel, but I get the following error when using LyX:
 The file /usr/local/lib/aspell-0.60/english can not be opened  
for reading.
Well, the folder exists, and it contains several things but not  
that file. I am suspicious that the aspell installer put these  
things in another folder like /Library/Application Support/ 
cocoAspell Is there a way to fix the problem?


ISPELL:
I got a tar file which requires some knowledge to be installed. Is  
there any binary package for non-expert users (OSX)?


I've frankly had little success with cocoAspell (which, apparently,  
is what you've used to install aspell, right?). Instead, go right to  
the source: aspell itself. You can download the source and  
dictionaries here: http://aspell.sourceforge.net/.


Because you're getting the source files, you'll need to compile and  
install them (which is the problem you've had for ispell). But it's  
really not hard; here's the procedure, which you'll need to do from  
an administrative account on your Mac.


Download and both aspell itself (ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/aspell/ 
aspell-0.60.3.tar.gz) and the dictionaries you want (ftp:// 
ftp.gnu.org/gnu/aspell/dict), and make sure they're decompressed.  
(If you don't see folders with the appopriate names, doubleclick on  
the .gz files (and, if that only leaves you with .tar files, on these  
as well) until you have the folders.) Then open Terminal.app, and do  
the following:


1. Type cd  (with the space, but without the quotes, and don't hit  
Return yet).
2. Drag the folder icon for the aspell program into the Terminal  
window (text will appear showing the directory the folder is in), and  
hit Return.
3. Type ./configure, followed by Return. That will spew out some  
incomprehensible messages about what it's doing.
4. When that's done, type make, followed by Return. Again, you'll  
get more output.
5. When that's done, type sudo make install, followed by Return.  
You'll be asked for your password, and you should type it (though  
nothing will appear on the screen), and then hit Return.


You'll need to repeat steps 1-5 for each of the dictionaries you want  
to install. (You'll get separate folders for each.)


That's it. Now from within LyX, select Edit  Reconfigure, restart  
LyX when it tells you to, double check that aspell is selected from  
LyX  Preferences  Spellchecker, and you should be good to go.


Bennett


[need help with wiki] Re: Excel data sheets

2005-10-17 Thread Sven Schreiber

6. Click the middle button on your mouse.

That should be it. The experts tell me this should not work but
unfortunately for the theory, it does for me.

samar




Kenward
  

I just discovered your tips on transferring spreadsheet contents, and I
think it's really useful; so I have turned this into a page for the tips
section of the Wiki. It should be saved on the Wiki
(CopyTablesFromSpreadsheets), but I'm not sure how to correctly link
this to the tips section, so maybe somebody else could help me out.

Samar, Kenward, I hope you don't mind being mentioned on the page.

And btw, while I'm a loyal, devoted, enthusiastic, spreading-the-word
(etc., you get the feeling...) Lyx user, I have to say that the need to
publish this workaround as a hint just means that basic copypaste is
essentially kaputt in Lyx. Can we users hope for better life with 1.4?

(Developers, please don't get me wrong, Lyx is great software.)
-sven


Re: [need help with wiki] Re: Excel data sheets

2005-10-17 Thread samar j. singh
On Tuesday 18 October 2005 03:50, Sven Schreiber wrote:
 6. Click the middle button on your mouse.
 
 That should be it. The experts tell me this should not work but
 unfortunately for the theory, it does for me.
 
 samar
 
 Kenward

 I just discovered your tips on transferring spreadsheet contents, and I
 think it's really useful; so I have turned this into a page for the tips
 section of the Wiki. It should be saved on the Wiki
 (CopyTablesFromSpreadsheets), but I'm not sure how to correctly link
 this to the tips section, so maybe somebody else could help me out.

 Samar, Kenward, I hope you don't mind being mentioned on the page.

 And btw, while I'm a loyal, devoted, enthusiastic, spreading-the-word
 (etc., you get the feeling...) Lyx user, I have to say that the need to
 publish this workaround as a hint just means that basic copypaste is
 essentially kaputt in Lyx. Can we users hope for better life with 1.4?

 (Developers, please don't get me wrong, Lyx is great software.)
 -sven

Its great that you are visualising putting this on the wiki. 

Just a suggestion.  Similar issues keep coming up on cut and paste problems. 
For instance, recently there was this issue that you can't cut and paste 
between lyx documents and the simple answer is they have to be documents on 
the same instance of Lyx.

I just wonder if it might be a better idea to scan through the lists and 
summarize all cut and paste tips and put them together on the wiki if you can 
spare the time.

I have put someting on the wiki before. While the direct instructions are 
fairly simple I found some derivatives more problematic like the .jpg file
being downloaded as .jpeg which creates problems for lyx.

Christian at chr at home.se is the man you need to contact. Very helpful 
too.

Re your other comment,  like every other beauty Lyx has areas it could improve 
on, but the entire persona is what most of us go for. Lyx is an immensely 
productive tool. When you match it with something like freemind, its a 
powerful combination for thought and expression. To the developers of both, I 
am personally deeply indebted.

best regards

samar


Re: Installing layouts on Windows

2005-10-18 Thread lyx . overbored
Angus Lemming wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry, I can in fact see the user dir in the About menu; however,
 placing my files there didn't fix the problem. Please help!

 Hi all, I'm trying to install the algorithms layout (from
 http://bgu.chez.tiscali.fr/). I followed the instructions exactly
 as specified in the accompanying readme.txt (my HOME is my cygwin
 home dir so I copied all the files to under my .lyx directory
 there, I defined TEXINPUTS to point to the packages dir, and I ran
 Reconfigure). I still don't see any algorithm style available. The
 readme.txt mentioned that I could find out where the user directory
 is located by looking under Help  Version, but I see no such menu
 option
 (Help  About LyX doesn't specify this).  I'm using LyX 1.3.6 and
 MikTeX. Please help!! Thanks in advance.

LyX will look for .layout files in the ${LYX_USER_SUPPORT}/layouts
directory where
 LYX_USER_SUPPORT=$HOME/.lyx
on *nix and, I guess, Cygwin and
 LYX_USER_SUPPORT=C:/Documents and Settings/USER/Application
Data/LyX
on Windows.

So, question 1: you're using the Cygwin executable, right?

I'm not using the Cygwin exe (I wasn't aware there is one; how does it
compare to the native?), but rather the one downloaded straight from
the site.


If you install the LyX layout file correctly, you should be able to
find the thing in the Layouts-Document menu. If the LaTeX class is
not installed correctly, then the class will be marked as
unavailable, meaning you can edit your .lyx document but you won't
be able to generate a .dvi file, etc.

Yes, I determined the possible locations, and the variable to set them
(LYX_USERDIR_136), but I've tried puting files in both locations to no
avail. I don't see the new layout at all.


Regards,
Angus




Re: Installing layouts on Windows

2005-10-18 Thread Angus Leeming
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes, I determined the possible locations, and the variable to set
 them (LYX_USERDIR_136), but I've tried puting files in both
 locations to no avail. I don't see the new layout at all.

I see this in the Readme.txt file:

6 Feedback

Please give your comments! It is the only way to efficiently improve
the textclass and fix the bugs. You can send e-mail to
nicolas.marsgui AT libertysurf.fr.

So, did you?
Angus





Aspell personal dictionnaires OsX 10.4.2

2005-10-18 Thread Alexander Gahr

How do I get a Personal dictionnaires in Aspell to use with lyx.
I don't want to tell the program every time it starts my special  
words again and again.


How do i create it. I know how to choose it in Lyx.

Thanks Alex



Math fonts and Ubuntu

2005-10-18 Thread Joao B. Oliveira

Hi all,

I am using Ubuntu (both 5.4 and 5.10) and several cm fonts are not
found by LyX, and I get messages like this:

Could not get font '-tex-cmr10-medium-r-normal--15-0-0-0-p-0-fontspecific-0'.
Using 'fixed'.
Could not get font '-tex-cmex10-medium-r-normal--15-0-0-0-p-0-fontspecific-0'.
Using 'fixed'.
Could not get font '-tex-cmsy10-medium-r-normal--11-0-0-0-p-0-fontspecific-0'.
Using 'fixed'.

A search for cmsy10 shows several .ttf files:

/var/lib/defoma/gs.d/dirs/fonts/cmsy10.ttf
/var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d/c/cmsy10.ttf
/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/cmsy10.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/latex-xft-fonts/cmsy10.ttf

There are also .tfm, .pfb and .mf files. So, the question is:
what should be done so that LyX and X recognize and find the
missing fonts?

Thank you for any help,

joao 





Re: 1st 2nd ....

2005-10-18 Thread ernesto
Hannan Sadar wrote:

Hi,

I would like to know if there is a way of writing 1st 2nd that the
'st' and 'nd' would be upper with out using the math mode environment.
In a math mode it would be $1^st$.

Hannan
  

ERT \textsuperscript{st}

regards

EJ



Re: Defining paragraph styles

2005-10-18 Thread Helge Hafting

Paul wrote:


Mike Meyer wrote:
 


Is there an easy way to redefine paragraph styles in Lyx?
 


...
 


Well, you have sort of overlooked what I think is the point of
LyX/LaTeX. But we'll skip that.
   



The point being that authors should concentrate on content and logical
markup, and typesetters/publishers should worry about how the final
thing looks? Kind of (but not exactly) like the separation between HTML
and CSS?

I'm wearing my typesetting hat at the moment, so does that mean that Lyx
isn't really suitable for me - it's more designed for content creators?
 


The separation of content and layout doesn't mean that
lyx isn't for you.  It merely means that the two jobs _can_
be split up in a comfortable way.

If an author use word, then the typesetting guy may have to
walk through the entire document to change the layout, by
actually changing paragraph types, indents, font sizes and such all
the way through.

If the author uses lyx, then the typesetting guy can simply
change the document class, perhaps add a thing or two to
the preamble, and be done with it.  Of course, complicated
typesetting requirements _may_ take a long time to fulfill and
_may_ require a lot of latex knowledge.  But still, the typesetting
work is supposed to be independent of the length of the
document!

So once you get the style right ,
it won't matter wether the book is 50 pages or 1500 pages. The
typesetter's job is done - without touching the text the author
prepared.  And lyx/latex won't choke on the 1500 pages case either,
the printing step will merely need more time.

Getting the style right may be achieved merely by selecting
a good document class, or by adding a few lines to the preamble,
or in a worst case, adding several hundreds of lines of quite
involved latex code to the preamble.

The typesetter's job isn't so much in lyx, it is about setting up
the layout in latex (and optionally, in .layout files so the author can
select useful paragraph types.)  Lyx is nice in that it allows this
kind of separation.  Some of the typesetter's work is easily done
in lyx, such as electing the correct document class  options.
The rest mostly involves the preamble. Getting that right is no
easier (and no worse) with lyx than with other ways of dealing
with latex.


I've been looking at the memoir class and pure LaTeX and managed to do
some tweaks to the output. I'm doing a collection of short stories so
chapters is a bit of a misnomer, and each one has a different author
which makes things a bit complicated. But I think I'm getting there.

Thanks for the other info about layout files etc. I don't really mind
how it looks in LyX itself, so it seems like the book.cls file is the
one to check out. Seems like a steep learning curve, so thanks for
getting me started!
 


Sure, it can be a lot to learn.  But then you know it, and the next
book gets much easier.

Helge Hafting


Re: Neither Linux nor windows! Please help me!

2005-10-18 Thread Helge Hafting

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   Hello guys! How are you?

   Well, sorry to be bore, but the
'Layout-Document-Language', or
'Edit-Preferences-Language' or that sort of simple
things don't work to change the language of the auto
names inserted inside the dvi or pdf final outputs!

 


That's work fine for me - I usually
use Norwegian but Portuguese is fine too.


   I want to tell you: NEITHER LINUX NOR WINDOWS Lyx
docs are changed when I do that way to change the auto
names (names like 'Contents' 'Figure 1' 'October, 16
2005' -- to which I want to be 'Índice', 'Figura 1',
'16 de outubro de 2005' and so forth). Sorry, but
there are something wrong -- I think that some of
these OS must work on that way you said me!

   Please I want a simple thing:

   - Type asdkhjdfkh in a new Lyx file and 
 put this line line as 'title';


   - Change both 'Layout-Document-Language'
 and 'Edit-Preferences-Language' to
 portuguese (or whatever tongue you want);

   - Export it to pdf or view it as dvi or
 something like that;

   Then, what do you see? 'October, 16 2005' isn't
it? Well, I want to be written there '16 de outubro de
2005'.
 


I got
18 de Outubro de 2005
when I selected Portuguese language.

I don't know about windows, but for linux, make sure
you have all the necessary parts of latex.

It seems to me that somethings wrong with your latex,
perhaps the babel package is missing?  (It contains
translations for all supported languages.)

When I set the document language to Portuguese and
does file-export-latex in lyx, I get a newfile14.tex like this:
START OF FILE

%% LyX 1.4.0cvs created this file.  For more info, see http://www.lyx.org/.
%% Do not edit unless you really know what you are doing.
\documentclass[portuges]{scrartcl}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[latin1]{inputenc}
\setlength\parskip{\medskipamount}
\setlength\parindent{0pt}

\makeatletter
%% User specified LaTeX commands.
\usepackage{lmodern}

\usepackage{babel}
\makeatother
\begin{document}

\title{dsfg}\maketitle

\end{document}

END OF FILE

Never mind that I use lyx 1.4, older versions like 1.3 and 1.2 gets the
language stuff right too.
Notice that the language is set in the line specifying document class.
Do you get the [portuges] part too?

Then notice the \usepackage{babel} right before
\begin{document}.  Do you get that too? 


Try making a .dvi the manual way, bu running
latex filename.tex
You should get a filename.dvi, or error messages.

What language do you get in the .dvi, assuming your latex
file contained the correct language setup with babel?
If your .tex file had the language setup but the .dvi got wrong
anyway, examine filename.log.  That's where you find any
error messages.  You will also find the version of latex
used, the first lines of my logfile is:

This is e-TeX, Version 3.14159-2.1 (Web2C 7.4.5) (format=latex 
2005.9.12)  18 OC

T 2005 13:30
entering extended mode
**newfile14.tex
(./newfile14.tex
LaTeX2e 2001/06/01
Babel v3.7h and hyphenation patterns for american, norsk, norsk, 
nohyphenation, loaded.


Of course your setup ought to have Portuguese hyphenation insted of
Norwegian.  Later in the logfile, I see:
START

(/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/babel/babel.sty
Package: babel 2001/03/01 v3.7h The Babel package

(/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/babel/portuges.ldf
Language: portuges 2001/02/16 v1.2o Portuguese support from the babel system

(/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/babel/babel.def
File: babel.def 2001/03/01 v3.7h Babel common definitions
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)

Package babel Warning: No hyphenation patterns were loaded for
(babel)the language `Portuguese'
(babel)I will use the patterns loaded for \language=0 
instead.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] = a dialect from \language0
Package babel Info: Making  an active character on input line 126.
))
No file newfile14.aux.
\openout1 = `newfile14.aux'.

END
Several lines about activiating portuguese support.  (The missing
hyphenation means that I might get bad word division at line ends,
but I still get the portuguese words.)


Try this, and find out where it goes wrong.
Does lyx output a .tex file with the correct language settings?
If no, try to set the document language right.
lyx 1.4: Document-settings-language
lyx 1.3: layout-document-language

If lyx dows wrong and you're in a real hurry, try
copying the langauge stuff from my example
file into your .tex file. 


When you have a correct .tex file, try running latex on it.
Do you get correct results?  If so, then your latex is fine and
the problem is with lyx.  If not, you have a latex problem.

Use a recent linux distribution, not something that is
several years old.  After changing latex, such as adding
packages, you have to reconfigure lyx.
lyx 1.3: edit-reconfigure
lyx 1.4: tools-reconfigure

Then exit lyx, restart lyx, and try to make a portuguese
document again.

Helge Hafting














Lyx command line question

2005-10-18 Thread Sanders, Maarten (M.J.L.)
I try to use lyx from the command line.
 
In lyx 1.4pre2 preview pdflatex goes fine.
 
On the commandline I get:
 
$ lyx --export latex myfile.lyx
  ... lot of messages but OK
$ pdflatex myfile.tex
 ... goes fine except for an gif image. I can enter the latex question
about an image not being found and the image is not there in the
resulting pdf.
Anyone an idea on what to do to get the image?
 
Thanks,
 
 
met vriendelijke groet / kind regards,
 
Maarten Sanders



Re: Math fonts and Ubuntu

2005-10-18 Thread Rex Dieter

Joao B. Oliveira wrote:


I am using Ubuntu (both 5.4 and 5.10) and several cm fonts are not
found by LyX, and I get messages like this:

Could not get font '-tex-cmr10-medium-r-normal--15-0-0-0-p-0-fontspecific-0'.
Using 'fixed'.


http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/Qt

-- Rex



Re: Aspell personal dictionnaires OsX 10.4.2

2005-10-18 Thread Bennett Helm

On Oct 18, 2005, at 4:29 AM, Alexander Gahr wrote:


How do I get a Personal dictionnaires in Aspell to use with lyx.
I don't want to tell the program every time it starts my special  
words again and again.


How do i create it. I know how to choose it in Lyx.


Simply entering the filename and path you want in LyX's spelling  
preferences will suffice.


Bennett


Re: Aspell personal dictionnaires OsX 10.4.2

2005-10-18 Thread Alexander Gahr

Ok i tried this.

I opened the preference in Lyx and entered a file. The Problem:

 Lyx will not create a new file personal dic file.

I can only choose .ispell files. But I am using aspell.

How do i get a new personal dictionary?


Am 18.10.2005 um 14:39 schrieb Bennett Helm:


On Oct 18, 2005, at 4:29 AM, Alexander Gahr wrote:



How do I get a Personal dictionnaires in Aspell to use with lyx.
I don't want to tell the program every time it starts my special  
words again and again.


How do i create it. I know how to choose it in Lyx.



Simply entering the filename and path you want in LyX's spelling  
preferences will suffice.


Bennett





Re: Lyx command line question

2005-10-18 Thread Georg Baum
Sanders, Maarten (M.J.L.) wrote:

 I try to use lyx from the command line.
  
 In lyx 1.4pre2 preview pdflatex goes fine.
  
 On the commandline I get:
  
 $ lyx --export latex myfile.lyx
   ... lot of messages but OK
 $ pdflatex myfile.tex
  ... goes fine except for an gif image. I can enter the latex question
 about an image not being found and the image is not there in the
 resulting pdf.
 Anyone an idea on what to do to get the image?

Please open a bug report in bugzilla and attach a minimal example file +
graphic that demonstrates the problem. LyX 1.4 should convert the image to
a suitable format if necessary, so this looks like you have encountered a
bug.


Georg



Re: Lyx command line question

2005-10-18 Thread Angus Leeming
Sanders, Maarten (M.J.L.) wrote:

 I try to use lyx from the command line.
  
 In lyx 1.4pre2 preview pdflatex goes fine.
  
 On the commandline I get:
  
 $ lyx --export latex myfile.lyx
   ... lot of messages but OK
 $ pdflatex myfile.tex
  ... goes fine except for an gif image. I can enter the latex
  question
 about an image not being found and the image is not there in the
 resulting pdf.
 Anyone an idea on what to do to get the image?
  
 Thanks,
  
  
 met vriendelijke groet / kind regards,
 Maarten Sanders

Does pdflatex not understand .gif? Ah well.

Can you produce the document when you fire up the LyX GUI? Ie, is this
a command line versus gui problem or is it one in which you have
simply not defined the conversion process from gif - png ?

Do you have ImageMagick's convert utility installed?

Regards,
Angus




Re: Aspell personal dictionnaires OsX 10.4.2

2005-10-18 Thread Alexander Gahr

Ok tried this again.

I created a new Lyx file with two words, one was new for apell.

So i entered a name for my personal dict /users/gahr/Documents/ 
test.ispell. Klicked save button.


But after checking adding a new word to personal dic and  
spellchecking completed there was no file  /users/gahr/Documents/ 
test.ispell


So i tried another way and i created manually a new empty text file  
named it /users/gahr/Documents/test.ispell.

But after checking and adding one word this file still remains empty.

I'm using coco aspell, is this possible that the error is in coco  
aspell???


Alex
Am 18.10.2005 um 15:49 schrieb Bennett Helm:


On Oct 18, 2005, at 9:05 AM, Alexander Gahr wrote:



Ok i tried this.

I opened the preference in Lyx and entered a file. The Problem:

 Lyx will not create a new file personal dic file.

I can only choose .ispell files. But I am using aspell.

How do i get a new personal dictionary?



Let me be more explicit. In LyX  Preferences  Language settings   
Spellchecker  Personal dictionary, enter a path and filename. (I  
have /Users/bennett/Documents/bennett.ispell in there, but you  
can use anything, with or without the .ispell ending. When you  
click on the Browse button next to the Personal dictionary field,  
LyX filters out all files except for .ispell files, which is why I  
have chosen to keep the .ispell extension in my preferences. But  
that's not necessary.) Click on the Save button.


No new file will be created yet, however. For that, you need to  
spellcheck a document and add a new word. Then that file will be  
created containing that word, and new words will be appended to the  
file whenever you add them.


Note that the file is simply a plain text file; it doesn't matter  
that you're using aspell with a personal dictionary that has  
.ispell in it or .txt or even no extension at all. That this  
file is plain text means that you can open it in any text editor to  
check your list, and even modify it if you like.


Bennett





Re: Aspell personal dictionnaires OsX 10.4.2

2005-10-18 Thread Bennett Helm


On Oct 18, 2005, at 10:00 AM, Alexander Gahr wrote:


Ok tried this again.

I created a new Lyx file with two words, one was new for apell.

So i entered a name for my personal dict /users/gahr/Documents/ 
test.ispell. Klicked save button.


But after checking adding a new word to personal dic and  
spellchecking completed there was no file  /users/gahr/Documents/ 
test.ispell


So i tried another way and i created manually a new empty text file  
named it /users/gahr/Documents/test.ispell.

But after checking and adding one word this file still remains empty.

I'm using coco aspell, is this possible that the error is in coco  
aspell???


It could be. As I've said in another recent post, I've never had luck  
with cocoAspell since the 2.0 beta came out. I'd recommend aspell  
itself. For instructions on how to install it, go here: http:// 
wiki.lyx.org/Mac/MacSpelling.


Bennett



Re: Lyx command line question

2005-10-18 Thread Georg Baum
Am Dienstag, 18. Oktober 2005 16:09 schrieb Sanders, Maarten (M.J.L.):
 Georg/Angus,

 From within the GUI things work fine. It is just the conversion on the
 commandline that does not do the part where the gif file is converted to
 some format pdflatex understands. Convert is present on my system.
 This could be a bug but also be my understanding of the steps I need to
 take do this from the commandline, e.g.:

 $ lyx --export latex mylyxfile.lyx --works
 $ missing step?? -- some step to convert all gifs to something pdflatex
 understands

This should be done automatically by LyX.

 $ pdflatex mylyxfile.tex -- works, except for the gif

There is no missing step. commandline export should produce identical results 
to GUI export.


Georg


PS: Please always reply to the list


Re: Lyx command line question

2005-10-18 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd


- Original Message - 
From: Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Sanders, Maarten (M.J.L.) [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: Lyx command line question



Am Dienstag, 18. Oktober 2005 16:09 schrieb Sanders, Maarten (M.J.L.):

Georg/Angus,

From within the GUI things work fine. It is just the conversion on the
commandline that does not do the part where the gif file is converted to
some format pdflatex understands. Convert is present on my system.
This could be a bug but also be my understanding of the steps I need to
take do this from the commandline, e.g.:

$ lyx --export latex mylyxfile.lyx --works
$ missing step?? -- some step to convert all gifs to something pdflatex
understands


This should be done automatically by LyX.


$ pdflatex mylyxfile.tex -- works, except for the gif


There is no missing step. commandline export should produce identical 
results

to GUI export.

Yes it should but you must note that Export-Pdflatex is different to 
Export-latex followed by running pdflatex on the file.


In the second case the only Export that Lyx is performing is Lyx-tex. This 
will not convert any graphics file formats.


Subsequent running of pdflatex is outside of Lyx and so it will run, find 
the gifs and have problems.


The only way around this is to use a pdflatex compatible image format in the 
first place. THe reason for this is the following:


Within Lyx when you Export-pdflatex it converts the graphics files, then 
does the convert to tex with the new file extensions.  However if you 
Export-tex the output will have the gof extensions and so regardless of 
what you do next pdflatex will still come across gif files unless you edit 
the tex file.


So I recommend you use png or jpg files in the original dicument.

Geoff





Georg


PS: Please always reply to the list





Re: Aspell personal dictionnaires OsX 10.4.2

2005-10-18 Thread Stephen Buonopane


On Oct 18, 2005, at 10:00 AM, Alexander Gahr wrote:


Ok tried this again.

I created a new Lyx file with two words, one was new for apell.

So i entered a name for my personal dict 
/users/gahr/Documents/test.ispell. Klicked save button.


But after checking adding a new word to personal dic and 
spellchecking completed there was no file  
/users/gahr/Documents/test.ispell


So i tried another way and i created manually a new empty text file 
named it /users/gahr/Documents/test.ispell.

But after checking and adding one word this file still remains empty.

I'm using coco aspell, is this possible that the error is in coco 
aspell???


It could be. As I've said in another recent post, I've never had luck 
with cocoAspell since the 2.0 beta came out. I'd recommend aspell 
itself. For instructions on how to install it, go here: 
http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/MacSpelling.


Bennett


I have been using cocoAspell  version 1.4.2 with LyX 1.3.5 on OS X 
10.3.6.

The personal dictionary file  is .aspell.english.pws.
Under LyX Preferences I have aspell set in the pull down menu, and 
personal dictionary is blank.
I assume that cocoAspell finds the personal dictionary independent of  
the LyX setting.

Seems to work for me.

Steve



Re: Aspell personal dictionnaires OsX 10.4.2

2005-10-18 Thread Alexander Gahr

Ok
unistallend coco apell. e.g. draged coco aspell to trash and the  
removed symbolic link .


Now i tried nearly everything but i still wont get a personal  
dictionary.

I'm writing in german so i have to use the german dictionary.

I's this a problem with Tiger?

Am 18.10.2005 um 16:21 schrieb Bennett Helm:



On Oct 18, 2005, at 10:00 AM, Alexander Gahr wrote:



Ok tried this again.

I created a new Lyx file with two words, one was new for apell.

So i entered a name for my personal dict /users/gahr/Documents/ 
test.ispell. Klicked save button.


But after checking adding a new word to personal dic and  
spellchecking completed there was no file  /users/gahr/Documents/ 
test.ispell


So i tried another way and i created manually a new empty text  
file named it /users/gahr/Documents/test.ispell.

But after checking and adding one word this file still remains empty.

I'm using coco aspell, is this possible that the error is in coco  
aspell???




It could be. As I've said in another recent post, I've never had  
luck with cocoAspell since the 2.0 beta came out. I'd recommend  
aspell itself. For instructions on how to install it, go here:  
http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/MacSpelling.


Bennett






Re: Aspell personal dictionnaires OsX 10.4.2

2005-10-18 Thread Bennett Helm

On Oct 18, 2005, at 11:55 AM, Alexander Gahr wrote:


Ok
unistallend coco apell. e.g. draged coco aspell to trash and the  
removed symbolic link .


Now i tried nearly everything but i still wont get a personal  
dictionary.

I'm writing in german so i have to use the german dictionary.

I's this a problem with Tiger?


Not for me.

Note that uninstalling cocoAspell is more involved than you describe.  
(There's at least the preference pane it installs, though I forget  
where (/Library/PreferencePanes or /System/Library/PreferencePanes or  
~/Library/PreferencePanes), and there may be more that I've  
forgotten.) Also, with cocoAspell 2.0, there's no need for a symbolic  
link.


You don't say whether you've installed aspell and a dictionary. It  
won't work without that.


Bennett


Re: Aspell personal dictionnaires OsX 10.4.2

2005-10-18 Thread Alexander Gahr
Yes i installed all that and i checked with spotlight if the is  
something more around there is nothing i think.
aspell was not working anymore from within lyx neither from the  
command line.


So i think i did a clean install of aspell.

Followed the ./configure make sudo make install steps.

Now aspell is working again from the command line and from within  
lyx. But i will not create this f*+ personal dictionary file.


Someone got some more ideas?

Am 18.10.2005 um 18:14 schrieb Bennett Helm:


On Oct 18, 2005, at 11:55 AM, Alexander Gahr wrote:



Ok
unistallend coco apell. e.g. draged coco aspell to trash and the  
removed symbolic link .


Now i tried nearly everything but i still wont get a personal  
dictionary.

I'm writing in german so i have to use the german dictionary.

I's this a problem with Tiger?



Not for me.

Note that uninstalling cocoAspell is more involved than you  
describe. (There's at least the preference pane it installs, though  
I forget where (/Library/PreferencePanes or /System/Library/ 
PreferencePanes or ~/Library/PreferencePanes), and there may be  
more that I've forgotten.) Also, with cocoAspell 2.0, there's no  
need for a symbolic link.


You don't say whether you've installed aspell and a dictionary. It  
won't work without that.


Bennett





Re: Aspell personal dictionnaires OsX 10.4.2

2005-10-18 Thread Stephen Harris


- Original Message - 
From: Alexander Gahr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:29 AM
Subject: Aspell personal dictionnaires OsX 10.4.2



How do I get a Personal dictionnaires in Aspell to use with lyx.
I don't want to tell the program every time it starts my special  
words again and again.


How do i create it. I know how to choose it in Lyx.

Thanks Alex




That is covered by Aspell documentation and configuration.

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/aspell-user/2001-04/msg8.html

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/aspell-user/2004-08/msg00037.html

http://aspell.sourceforge.net/man-html/



Re: Defining paragraph styles

2005-10-18 Thread Mike Meyer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
 Mike Meyer wrote:
 Is there an easy way to redefine paragraph styles in Lyx?
 ...
  Well, you have sort of overlooked what I think is the point of
  LyX/LaTeX. But we'll skip that.
 The point being that authors should concentrate on content and logical
 markup, and typesetters/publishers should worry about how the final
 thing looks? Kind of (but not exactly) like the separation between HTML
 and CSS?

Yeah, except that LaTeX predates the desktop publishing experiment,
and didn't get polluted with by a phase of people trying to make it
into a desktop publishing system.

 I'm wearing my typesetting hat at the moment, so does that mean that Lyx
 isn't really suitable for me - it's more designed for content creators?

Sort of. LaTeX (which is what does the typesetting of the output)
helps typesetters make it easy for content creators to create
professional looking documents. Once you get into it, you'll find that
it's provides more control than most WP systems (at least the ones I'm
familiar with). If you're just not happy with what's available, and
want to create a new style that you'll then use for many documents,
that's pretty much normal.

On the other hand, if you're going to be tweaking the output for every
document you create, then you might be better off with something
else. For one thing, getting just the look you want is harder in LaTeX
than in a convention WP. For another, the style information isn't
stored in the document, so you wind up having to create new style
sheet for each deocument if you want to be able to recreate the ouput
later on.

mike
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Re: Lyx command line question

2005-10-18 Thread Roy Schestowitz

_/ On Tue 18 Oct 2005 15:47:35 BST, [Geoffrey Lloyd] wrote : \_

- Original Message - From: Georg Baum 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Sanders, Maarten (M.J.L.) [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: Lyx command line question



Am Dienstag, 18. Oktober 2005 16:09 schrieb Sanders, Maarten (M.J.L.):

Georg/Angus,

From within the GUI things work fine. It is just the conversion on the
commandline that does not do the part where the gif file is converted to
some format pdflatex understands. Convert is present on my system.
This could be a bug but also be my understanding of the steps I need to
take do this from the commandline, e.g.:

$ lyx --export latex mylyxfile.lyx --works
$ missing step?? -- some step to convert all gifs to something pdflatex
understands


This should be done automatically by LyX.


$ pdflatex mylyxfile.tex -- works, except for the gif


There is no missing step. commandline export should produce 
identical results

to GUI export.

Yes it should but you must note that Export-Pdflatex is different to 
Export-latex followed by running pdflatex on the file.


In the second case the only Export that Lyx is performing is 
Lyx-tex. This will not convert any graphics file formats.


Subsequent running of pdflatex is outside of Lyx and so it will run, 
find the gifs and have problems.


The only way around this is to use a pdflatex compatible image format 
in the first place. THe reason for this is the following:


Within Lyx when you Export-pdflatex it converts the graphics files, 
then does the convert to tex with the new file extensions.  However 
if you Export-tex the output will have the gof extensions and so 
regardless of what you do next pdflatex will still come across gif 
files unless you edit the tex file.


So I recommend you use png or jpg files in the original document.



That said, I can't understand why people steer away from encapsulated
PostScript, which in most cases ought to be used as it preserves and
incorporates vectors rather than pixels. If used properly, it is also far
smaller in terms of size and results in document output that is infinitely
scalable with good zooming as required.

There are free tools that manipulate .eps files. GIMP is only one among 
several.
Xara, for example, have released an Open Source version of their vector 
drawing

program /last week/:

 * http://www.xaraxtreme.org/



Geoff





Georg


PS: Please always reply to the list



I second that. I noticed a tendency to reply off-list. This leaves gaps in the
mailing list archives and puts off a subset of list subscribers. css-discuss,
on the contrary, adopted some different habits. The main question to ask is
would the group or the World Wide Web benefit from this response or is its
scope too narrow?. For the latter, in the case of Web site critique, there
needn't be a public message available as it is site-specific or refers to
browser bugs that are soon to vanish.

My modest opinion(s)...

Roy

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Re: Lyx command line question

2005-10-19 Thread Georg Baum
Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

 Yes it should but you must note that Export-Pdflatex is different to
 Export-latex followed by running pdflatex on the file.
 
 In the second case the only Export that Lyx is performing is Lyx-tex.
 This will not convert any graphics file formats.

This is true for 1.3.x, but 1.4 converts included graphics files if needed,
and references the converted file in the .tex file. So the procedure

lyx --export latex mylyxfile.lyx
pdflatex mylyxfile.tex

should produce identical results to export-pdflatex from GUI, with one
exception:
lyx --export latex can not know if the produced .tex file will be run
through pdflatex or latex. It assumes latex, and this is the problem here:
The gif file is converted to eps, and the .tex file contains
'\includegraphics{foo}'. latex would find foo.eps (which was created), but
pdflatex would find foo.pdf, foo.png or foo.jpg.

 So I recommend you use png or jpg files in the original dicument.

This is indeed a workaround until we have a 'pdflatex' export format.


Georg



Re: Drawing of polynomials

2005-10-19 Thread Herbert Voss
Gunnar wrote:

 I've written a simple C++ program that can make eepic graphs of
 polynomials. So if you need to do this you can get my program here:
 
 http://web.comhem.se/~u46307480/RitaGraf.tgz
 
 There is a very short postscript manual in the tgz-file for those who
 can't speak swedish. The code is GPLv2 if you'd like to translate it,
 extend it or remove my ugly codewriting.

- \pspolynomial from

http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/pstricks/contrib/pst-func/

Herbert



Re: [need help with wiki] Re: Excel data sheets

2005-10-19 Thread Sven Schreiber

 Its great that you are visualising putting this on the wiki. 
 
 
 I just wonder if it might be a better idea to scan through the lists and 
 summarize all cut and paste tips and put them together on the wiki if you can 
 spare the time.

In principle I could do that, but with the (hopefully) imminent release of 
version 1.4 I would
rather start a new tips collection instead of spending time on a (hopefully) 
soon obsolete version.

Samar, feel free to remind me of this half-promise when 1.4 comes out...

-sven



Re: Lyx command line question

2005-10-19 Thread Jose' Matos
On Wednesday 19 October 2005 06:04, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
 That said, I can't understand why people steer away from encapsulated
 PostScript, which in most cases ought to be used as it preserves and
 incorporates vectors rather than pixels. If used properly, it is also far
 smaller in terms of size and results in document output that is infinitely
 scalable with good zooming as required.

  pdflatex only accepts png or pdf graphics, IIRC.

  And that is why lyx converts the other file formats to those for pdflatex.
-- 
José Abílio


Re: [need help with wiki] Re: Excel data sheets

2005-10-19 Thread samar j. singh
On Wednesday 19 October 2005 13:13, Sven Schreiber wrote:
  Its great that you are visualising putting this on the wiki.
 
 
  I just wonder if it might be a better idea to scan through the lists and
  summarize all cut and paste tips and put them together on the wiki if you
  can spare the time.

 In principle I could do that, but with the (hopefully) imminent release of
 version 1.4 I would rather start a new tips collection instead of spending
 time on a (hopefully) soon obsolete version.

 Samar, feel free to remind me of this half-promise when 1.4 comes out...

 -sven


Sven, a half promise is better than none and if you are inviting a reminder 
thats even better. 

Given the greater margin of time, I could look up a few things from a course I 
had put together for a small publishing house some time ago which you  could 
consider adding to your work.

I seem to recollect reading somewhere that 1.4 will not be addressing the 
issue of cut and paste.

regards

samar


RE: Lyx command line question: summarized

2005-10-19 Thread Sanders, Maarten (M.J.L.)
Thank you for all the contribution,

Summarized:

The latex export command line option works fine for regular latex, latex
myfile.tex generates a valid dvi file.

If you want to use pdflatex you should either:

1) edit the resulting .tex file and replace \usepackage{graphicx} with
\usepackage[dvips]{graphicx} 

2) run, before you run pdflatex, something like
for FILE in `find . -name '*\.gif'`; do convert $FILE `echo $FILE | sed
's/\(.*\.\)gif/\1png/'`; done

3) Do not use gif's but png's instead

Maarten

 -Original Message-
 From: Georg Baum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 8:56 AM
 To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
 Subject: Re: Lyx command line question
 
 
 Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:
 
  Yes it should but you must note that Export-Pdflatex is
 different to
  Export-latex followed by running pdflatex on the file.
  
  In the second case the only Export that Lyx is performing
 is Lyx-tex.
  This will not convert any graphics file formats.
 
 This is true for 1.3.x, but 1.4 converts included graphics
 files if needed, and references the converted file in the 
 .tex file. So the procedure
 
 lyx --export latex mylyxfile.lyx
 pdflatex mylyxfile.tex
 
 should produce identical results to export-pdflatex from
 GUI, with one
 exception:
 lyx --export latex can not know if the produced .tex file 
 will be run through pdflatex or latex. It assumes latex, and 
 this is the problem here: The gif file is converted to eps, 
 and the .tex file contains '\includegraphics{foo}'. latex 
 would find foo.eps (which was created), but pdflatex would 
 find foo.pdf, foo.png or foo.jpg.
 
  So I recommend you use png or jpg files in the original dicument.
 
 This is indeed a workaround until we have a 'pdflatex' export format.
 
 
 Georg
 
 


RE: Lyx command line question: summarized

2005-10-19 Thread Mike Meyer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sanders, Maarten (M.J.L.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
 2) run, before you run pdflatex, something like
 for FILE in `find . -name '*\.gif'`; do convert $FILE `echo $FILE | sed
 's/\(.*\.\)gif/\1png/'`; done

basename is safer:

for file in $(find . -name *.gif)
do
convert $file $(basename $file .gif).png
done

mike
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RE: Lyx command line question: summarized

2005-10-19 Thread Angus Leeming
Mike Meyer wrote:
 2) run, before you run pdflatex, something like
 for FILE in `find . -name '*\.gif'`; do convert $FILE `echo $FILE |
 sed 's/\(.*\.\)gif/\1png/'`; done
 
 basename is safer:
 
 for file in $(find . -name *.gif)
 do
 convert $file $(basename $file .gif).png
 done

Hi, Mike. Hi, Maarten.

One step forward (basename) but one step backward too :P

You need to quote the *.gif in the find expression:
for file in $(find . -name '*.gif')
or the shell will perform a glob expansion to those files ending with
.gif in the current directory.

One additional improvement: in general, you should always quote $file
or nasty things will happen when the file name contains spaces.

Unfortunately, the script above is fundamentally unable to handle
files with spaces. To illustrate:

$ mkdir foo
$ touch 'foo/bar bar.gif'
$ touch 'foo/baz baz.gif'
$ for file in $(find foo -name '*.gif')
do
echo $file
done

foo/bar
bar.gif
foo/baz
baz.gif

$ find foo -name '*.gif' | while read file
do
echo $file
done

foo/bar bar.gif
foo/baz baz.gif

The second version doesn't suffer from buffer overflow problems
either.

In conclusion, I'd recommend that you use

find foo -name '*.gif' | while read file
do
pngfile=`basename $file .gif`.png
convert $file pngfile
done

(The command `...` is synonymous with $(...).)

Ain't scripting a can of worms? :)
Regards,
Angus





Aspell personal dictionnaires OsX 10.4.2

2005-10-19 Thread Alexander Gahr
- Original Message - From: Alexander Gahr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:29 AM
Subject: Aspell personal dictionnaires OsX 10.4.2



How do I get a Personal dictionnaires in Aspell to use with lyx.
I don't want to tell the program every time it starts my special words 
again and again.


How do i create it. I know how to choose it in Lyx.

Thanks Alex




That is covered by Aspell documentation and configuration.

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/aspell-user/2001-04/msg8.html

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/aspell-user/2004-08/msg00037.html

http://aspell.sourceforge.net/man-html/

Thanks i allreay read the manual. In the lyx manual there is written that 
the personal dictionary file will be created if i put in a new name in the 
perfereces in lyx. And after first succsessfull checkeing there will be a 
personal dictonary file.
My problem is either with apspell direkt or with cocoaspell, that no new 
words will be learned. I'm realy  and i don't know what else i can do.
I unistalled lyx. Unistalled aspell. Cocoaspell. etc.

Someone got the same problem or can anybody help me.
Could this be a right problem?

Alex

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Add Function Aspell (was Aspell personal dictionnaires OsX 10.4.2)

2005-10-19 Thread Alexander Gahr
So i tried some more and i'm thinking that cocoaspell is working again and 
i have choosen the en.pws file that cocaspell creates. 

I can perfectly add some word to this personal word list from outside of 
lyx but 

If i try it from within lyx the situation is that lyx know all new words 
cocoaspell leared outside of lyx, but it will not add any new words.

I think the add button is simply not working in my case. 
So all the problems before result in an not working add funktion within 
lyx.

Anybody a clue?

Using :

OsX 10.4.2
Lyx 1.3.6
CocoAspell 2.02 (Apspell 6.0)

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Re: Add Function Aspell (was Aspell personal dictionnaires OsX 10.4.2)

2005-10-19 Thread Andre Berger
* Alexander  Gahr [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2005-10-19 17:40 +0200:
 So i tried some more and i'm thinking that cocoaspell is working again and 
 i have choosen the en.pws file that cocaspell creates. 
 
 I can perfectly add some word to this personal word list from outside of 
 lyx but 
 
 If i try it from within lyx the situation is that lyx know all new words 
 cocoaspell leared outside of lyx, but it will not add any new words.
 
 I think the add button is simply not working in my case. 
 So all the problems before result in an not working add funktion within 
 lyx.
 
 Anybody a clue?
 
 Using :
 
 OsX 10.4.2
 Lyx 1.3.6
 CocoAspell 2.02 (Apspell 6.0)

Looks like an error in your configuration files. Move all of them out
of the way! In LyX, leave the personal dictionary field blank. Add a
word, and ~/.aspell*pws should be created.

-Andre


Add Function Aspell (was Aspell personal dictionnaires OsX 10.4.2)

2005-10-19 Thread Alexander Gahr
Hm tried this before but gave it another try.
I installed lyx cocoaspell or aspell only.
Removed /Users/gahr/Library/Application Support/LyX this is the place 
where in the apple installation the perferences are stored.

But i have the same problem i can't add word to a dictionary from within 
lyx. 

Alex

Re: Add Function Aspell (was Aspell personal dictionnaires OsX 10.4.2)
Andre Berger
Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:20:22 -0700

* Alexander  Gahr [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2005-10-19 17:40 +0200:
 So i tried some more and i'm thinking that cocoaspell is working again 
and 
 i have choosen the en.pws file that cocaspell creates. 
 
 I can perfectly add some word to this personal word list from outside of 
 lyx but 
 
 If i try it from within lyx the situation is that lyx know all new words 
 cocoaspell leared outside of lyx, but it will not add any new words.
 
 I think the add button is simply not working in my case. 
 So all the problems before result in an not working add funktion within 
 lyx.
 
 Anybody a clue?
 
 Using :
 
 OsX 10.4.2
 Lyx 1.3.6
 CocoAspell 2.02 (Apspell 6.0)

Looks like an error in your configuration files. Move all of them out
of the way! In LyX, leave the personal dictionary field blank. Add a
word, and ~/.aspell*pws should be created.

-Andre

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Re: Lyx command line question

2005-10-19 Thread Paul
 PS: Please always reply to the list
 
 I second that. I noticed a tendency to reply off-list. This leaves
 gaps in the mailing list archives and puts off a subset of list
 subscribers. css-discuss, on the contrary, adopted some different
 habits. The main question to ask is would the group or the World
 Wide Web benefit from this response or is its scope too narrow?. For
 the latter, in the case of Web site critique, there needn't be a
 public message available as it is site-specific or refers to browser
 bugs that are soon to vanish.

Maybe it's just my mail client, but this list seems to default for a
reply to the sender instead of to the list, unlike all the other lists
I've ever been on. I accidently sent a reply intended for the list to
the sender and didn't realise until a few days later. So maybe other
people have the same problem.

Paul.


Re: Lyx command line question

2005-10-19 Thread Paul Smith
On 10/19/05, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  PS: Please always reply to the list
 
  I second that. I noticed a tendency to reply off-list. This leaves
  gaps in the mailing list archives and puts off a subset of list
  subscribers. css-discuss, on the contrary, adopted some different
  habits. The main question to ask is would the group or the World
  Wide Web benefit from this response or is its scope too narrow?. For
  the latter, in the case of Web site critique, there needn't be a
  public message available as it is site-specific or refers to browser
  bugs that are soon to vanish.

 Maybe it's just my mail client, but this list seems to default for a
 reply to the sender instead of to the list, unlike all the other lists
 I've ever been on. I accidently sent a reply intended for the list to
 the sender and didn't realise until a few days later. So maybe other
 people have the same problem.

I agree, Paul. The reply address should be occupied by the list's address.

Paul


[OT Mail List header rewriting ] Re: Lyx command line question

2005-10-19 Thread Todd Denniston
Paul Smith wrote:
 
 On 10/19/05, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   PS: Please always reply to the list
  
   I second that. I noticed a tendency to reply off-list. This leaves
   gaps in the mailing list archives and puts off a subset of list
   subscribers. css-discuss, on the contrary, adopted some different
   habits. The main question to ask is would the group or the World
   Wide Web benefit from this response or is its scope too narrow?. For
   the latter, in the case of Web site critique, there needn't be a
   public message available as it is site-specific or refers to browser
   bugs that are soon to vanish.
 
  Maybe it's just my mail client, but this list seems to default for a
  reply to the sender instead of to the list, unlike all the other lists
  I've ever been on. I accidently sent a reply intended for the list to
  the sender and didn't realise until a few days later. So maybe other
  people have the same problem.
 
 I agree, Paul. The reply address should be occupied by the list's address.
 
 Paul

I could agree ... if I had not seen the problems it can cause.
example: the MUSCLE list (smart cards) 
http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/muscle

First: to me this breaks the rule of least surprise.
that is: if I only hit reply, not reply all, I expect to be sending only to
the person who sent the originating email. 

The second problem: because of the way it rewrites the headers, if I hit
`reply to all` it still only includes the mailing list in the to lines, even
though I wanted it to give me the person's address so I could cheaply take
it off the mailing list.

If someone really decides to make the change, please set the rewriter to put
both the originator and the mailing list on the reply to line.

Thanks for the discussion...
-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) 
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Lyx command line question

2005-10-19 Thread Mike Meyer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
 Maybe it's just my mail client, but this list seems to default for a
 reply to the sender instead of to the list, unlike all the other lists
 I've ever been on. I accidently sent a reply intended for the list to
 the sender and didn't realise until a few days later. So maybe other
 people have the same problem.

Thoe other lists are (probably) in violation of RFC-2822. You should
get into the habit of hitting Reply All to reply to the list.

mike
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Re: Lyx command line question

2005-10-19 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

|  PS: Please always reply to the list
|  
|  I second that. I noticed a tendency to reply off-list. This leaves
|  gaps in the mailing list archives and puts off a subset of list
|  subscribers. css-discuss, on the contrary, adopted some different
|  habits. The main question to ask is would the group or the World
|  Wide Web benefit from this response or is its scope too narrow?. For
|  the latter, in the case of Web site critique, there needn't be a
|  public message available as it is site-specific or refers to browser
|  bugs that are soon to vanish.
| 
| Maybe it's just my mail client, but this list seems to default for a
| reply to the sender instead of to the list, unlike all the other lists
| I've ever been on.

Then you cannot have been on many lists :-)

The trick with lists is to always use Reply to All (or whatever you
mailer calls it.)


-- 
Lgb



Re: Lyx command line question: summarized

2005-10-19 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

| find foo -name '*.gif' | while read file
| do
| pngfile=`basename $file .gif`.png
| convert $file pngfile
| done

Hmm... I thought thiw was usually written as a for-loop.

for file in `find foo -name \*.gif` ; do
pngfile=`basename $file .gif`.png
convert $file $pngfile
done

(and you forgot a '$')

-- 
Lgb



Re: [OT Mail List header rewriting ] Re: Lyx command line question

2005-10-19 Thread Paul
Todd Denniston wrote:
I agree, Paul. The reply address should be occupied by the list's address.
 
 I could agree ... if I had not seen the problems it can cause.
 example: the MUSCLE list (smart cards) 
 http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/muscle
 
 First: to me this breaks the rule of least surprise.
 that is: if I only hit reply, not reply all, I expect to be sending only to
 the person who sent the originating email. 

Heh, I thought this might be a flame war topic. I guess it depends on
what you're used to. Every other list I've ever been on has sent replies
to the list, so it did surprise me that it didn't work that way here -
I'm expecting emails from lists to have different behaviour to emails
from individuals.

 The second problem: because of the way it rewrites the headers, if I hit
 `reply to all` it still only includes the mailing list in the to lines, even
 though I wanted it to give me the person's address so I could cheaply take
 it off the mailing list.

My experience of lists is that 99% of the time I want to reply to the
whole list, so it makes sense to me to have that as the default.

 If someone really decides to make the change, please set the rewriter to put
 both the originator and the mailing list on the reply to line.

I've also got several duplicate replies to messages I've posted because
people have sent to the list and cc'd me as well (maybe thinking I might
not be subscribed). My thoughts are that if you want a reply it's
courteous to be subscribed to the list, even if it's only for a short while.

Sorry for the OT list pollution if this is a regular topic that comes
up... But it might help with the problem of disjointed threads in the
archives.

Paul.


Re: Lyx command line question

2005-10-19 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

| On 10/19/05, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|   PS: Please always reply to the list
|  
|   I second that. I noticed a tendency to reply off-list. This leaves
|   gaps in the mailing list archives and puts off a subset of list
|   subscribers. css-discuss, on the contrary, adopted some different
|   habits. The main question to ask is would the group or the World
|   Wide Web benefit from this response or is its scope too narrow?. For
|   the latter, in the case of Web site critique, there needn't be a
|   public message available as it is site-specific or refers to browser
|   bugs that are soon to vanish.
| 
|  Maybe it's just my mail client, but this list seems to default for a
|  reply to the sender instead of to the list, unlike all the other lists
|  I've ever been on. I accidently sent a reply intended for the list to
|  the sender and didn't realise until a few days later. So maybe other
|  people have the same problem.
| 
| I agree, Paul. The reply address should be occupied by the list's address.

From what I have seen configuration tips for mailing list recommend
what we are doing here. (mailman certainly does)

Me, I use 'f' for follow-up, and 'r' for reply.
That is Reply to all and Reply for you outlookers.
Default finger-twitch should be 'f'.

-- 
Lgb



Re: Add Function Aspell (was Aspell personal dictionnaires OsX 10.4.2)

2005-10-19 Thread Stephen Harris


- Original Message - 
From: Alexander Gahr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 11:03 AM
Subject: Add Function Aspell (was Aspell personal dictionnaires OsX 10.4.2)



Hm tried this before but gave it another try.
I installed lyx cocoaspell or aspell only.
Removed /Users/gahr/Library/Application Support/LyX this is the place
where in the apple installation the perferences are stored.

But i have the same problem i can't add word to a dictionary from within
lyx.

Alex



Sometimes things don't work cross-platform. For instance extra-dicts
doesn't work for Win32. But this situation is pretty basic.

Remove anything from LyX--Edit--Preferences--Language settings,
Spellchecker--personal dictionary. Just use the master dictionary.

This setting has never been needed to add words to the personal dict.
On Win32, it will only accept the generic .ispell suffixed filename.

So, then you are just using one master dictionary. When you spellcheck
the window pops open and gives you a choice to ignore, replace or add.
Replace will change the spelling of the word displayed but not add it
to your personal dictionary. Add, does not change the display spelling,
but that word is now part of your personal dictionary and should not
come up again as a misspelled word.

You can test this by deliberately adding some misspelled words by
typing a sentence in LyX : quoxitic nautilis fidociary and then add them
all.
Then cat en.pws (or win32 type en.pws) if using English language.
The added misspelled words should be appended to the bottom of the list.

If the test doesn't work (display the newly added words) then that means
the en.pws is not being written to, probably a path error.

If you had a large list of technical words not usually found in a dictionary
and you wanted to add them to your dictionary. Dump the word lists of
both the standard and technical dictionaries, merge them, and then use
aspell create master to recreate a combined dictionary. If there is a word
that one wants to change the spelling of in several instances, search and
replace is usually used. Bennett is the resident os x guru. en.pws is the
filename of the personal dictionary under win32, at least. Also, perhaps
it will be necessary to reconfigure after erasing the personal dict field.


Looks like an error in your configuration files. Move all of them out
of the way! In LyX, leave the personal dictionary field blank. Add a
word, and ~/.aspell*pws should be created.

-Andre

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Re: [OT Mail List header rewriting ] Re: Lyx command line question

2005-10-19 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 08:32:06PM +0100, Paul wrote:
 My experience of lists is that 99% of the time I want to reply to the
 whole list, so it makes sense to me to have that as the default.
 
  If someone really decides to make the change, please set the rewriter to put
  both the originator and the mailing list on the reply to line.
 
 I've also got several duplicate replies to messages I've posted because
 people have sent to the list and cc'd me as well (maybe thinking I might
 not be subscribed). My thoughts are that if you want a reply it's
 courteous to be subscribed to the list, even if it's only for a short while.
 
 Sorry for the OT list pollution if this is a regular topic that comes
 up... But it might help with the problem of disjointed threads in the
 archives.

From the mailman documentation:

  reply_goes_to_list (general): Where are replies to list messages
  directed? Poster is strongly recommended for most mailing lists.

  This option controls what Mailman does to the Reply-To: header in
  messages flowing through this mailing list. When set to Poster, no
  Reply-To: header is added by Mailman, although if one is present in the
  original message, it is not stripped. Setting this value to either This
  list or Explicit address causes Mailman to insert a specific Reply-To:
  header in all messages, overriding the header in the original message
  if necessary (Explicit address inserts the value of reply_to_address).

  There are many reasons not to introduce or override the Reply-To:
  header. One is that some posters depend on their own Reply-To: settings
  to convey their valid return address. Another is that modifying
  Reply-To: makes it much more difficult to send private replies. See
  `Reply-To' Munging Considered Harmful for a general discussion of this
  issue. See Reply-To Munging Considered Useful for a dissenting opinion.

  Some mailing lists have restricted posting privileges, with a parallel
  list devoted to discussions. Examples are `patches' or `checkin' lists,
  where software changes are posted by a revision control system, but
  discussion about the changes occurs on a developers mailing list. To
  support these types of mailing lists, select Explicit address and set
  the Reply-To: address below to point to the parallel list.

The overwhelming majority of mailing lists do the right thing (IMNSHO) by
leaving the Reply-To alone.

Best regards,

---Kayvan

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Re: Add Function Aspell (was Aspell personal dictionnaires OsX 10.4.2)

2005-10-19 Thread Stephen Harris


- Original Message - 
From: Alexander Gahr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 11:03 AM
Subject: Add Function Aspell (was Aspell personal dictionnaires OsX 10.4.2)



Hm tried this before but gave it another try.
I installed lyx cocoaspell or aspell only.
Removed /Users/gahr/Library/Application Support/LyX this is the place
where in the apple installation the perferences are stored.

But i have the same problem i can't add word to a dictionary from within
lyx.

Alex



As I already mentioned this works for me without enabling Personal
dictionary within LyX. I did come across this advice under lyxrc:

# Specify an alternate personal dictionary file. If the file name does not
# begin with /, $HOME is prefixed. The default is to search for a personal
# dictionary in both the current directory and $HOME, creating one in $HOME
# if none is found. The preferred name is constructed by appending 
.ispell_

# to the base name of the hash file. For example, if you use the English
# dictionary, your personal dictionary would be named .ispell_english.
#\use_personal_dictionary true
#\personal_dictionary .ispell_dansk

This seems to suggest that the last two lines would need to be
uncommented appropriately in order to enable an alternate personal 
dictionary. 





Re: Lyx command line question: summarized

2005-10-19 Thread Angus Leeming
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
 Angus Leeming writes:
 | find foo -name '*.gif' | while read file
 | do
 | pngfile=`basename $file .gif`.png
 | convert $file pngfile
 | done

 Hmm... I thought thiw was usually written as a for-loop.
 for file in `find foo -name \*.gif` ; do
 pngfile=`basename $file .gif`.png
 convert $file $pngfile
 done

Won't work when the returned files have spaces in their names. Try out my
prescription in the mail you're replying to :)

The problem is that for splits the returned list of files using
whitespace...

Perhaps the bigger problem is that you can overrun the internal array size
used by for to store the list of returned list of files.

google on useless use of cat or just go here:
http://www.ruhr.de/home/smallo/award.html and read the dangerous
backticks section.

 (and you forgot a '$')

Right :) (And restricted the search to the foo directory rather than the
original .)

-- 
Angus



Re: Lyx command line question

2005-10-19 Thread Georg Baum
Am Mittwoch, 19. Oktober 2005 20:51 schrieb Paul Smith:

 I agree, Paul. The reply address should be occupied by the list's 
address.

I don't agree. Read http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html, and 
then get a decent email program (or news client, if you read the list via 
gmane). For example, I press L in kmail when I want to answer to the 
list.


Georg



Re: Lyx command line question

2005-10-19 Thread Paul Smith
On 10/19/05, Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I agree, Paul. The reply address should be occupied by the list's
 address.

 I don't agree. Read http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html, and
 then get a decent email program (or news client, if you read the list via
 gmane). For example, I press L in kmail when I want to answer to the
 list.

I ignored all those details (discussed at the site above). It seems
that it is wiser the way the mailing list is currently organized.
Since I have a GMail account exclusively dedicated to mailing lists
and considering that I do not want to keep the archives of my mailing
lists on my computer, I use webmail, which does not have,
unfortunately, the feature reply to the list.

Paul


Re: Lyx command line question: summarized

2005-10-19 Thread Mike Meyer
[drifting off-topic]

In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
 The problem is that for splits the returned list of files using
 whitespace...
 
 Perhaps the bigger problem is that you can overrun the internal array size
 used by for to store the list of returned list of files.

Running out of argument space always triggers my xargs detector:

find foo -name '*.gif' -print0 | xargs -0 -n 1 convert -f gif

Which has the advantage that it will work properly on files with
newlines in the name.

Note that this uses my open utility symlinked as convert, not the
convert command that comes with Imagemagick. That just happens to
do the right thing in this case.

mike
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Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information.


Re: Lyx command line question: summarized

2005-10-19 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

| The problem is that for splits the returned list of files using
| whitespace...

find foo -name \*.gif -print -exec convert {} `basename {}`.png \;

then (ha!)

|  (and you forgot a '$')
| 
| Right :) (And restricted the search to the foo directory rather than the
| original .)

yeah, but that was not a syntax error (kindo)

-- 
Lgb




Re: Lyx command line question

2005-10-19 Thread Angus Leeming
Paul Smith wrote:
 I don't agree. Read http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html, and
 then get a decent email program (or news client, if you read the list
 via gmane). For example, I press L in kmail when I want to answer to the
 list.
 
 I ignored all those details (discussed at the site above). It seems
 that it is wiser the way the mailing list is currently organized.
 Since I have a GMail account exclusively dedicated to mailing lists
 and considering that I do not want to keep the archives of my mailing
 lists on my computer, I use webmail, which does not have,
 unfortunately, the feature reply to the list.

Sounds like you should use a news reader and point it at
gmane.editors.lyx.general

-- 
Angus



Re: Lyx command line question: summarized

2005-10-19 Thread Angus Leeming
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
 | The problem is that for splits the returned list of files using
 | whitespace...
 
 find foo -name \*.gif -print -exec convert {} `basename {}`.png \;
 then (ha!)

Thanks. I've just learnt something.

Don't you have to quote the args passed to convert? Bet you still do.

Ain't scripting fun ;)

-- 
Angus



Clever quotes

2005-10-19 Thread Paul
Suppose I have some text that has a lot of quoted speech in it, but it's
supplied using standard () straight single and double quotes.

Is there some pre-processing tool that will try to convert them to
proper curly quotes suitable for LaTeX (``) and ('')?

I know it can't be done perfectly and will need manual tweaking, but
there must be something to do most of the work.

All I can think of is to use some word processor that has a clever
quotes function (e.g. MS Word) and then use something like wvLatex to
export that to LaTeX format. Or do a search and replace.

Is there a command-line tool that does this using some heuristics to
cover most areas that could be problematic?

Paul.


Re: Clever quotes

2005-10-19 Thread Rich Shepard

On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, Paul wrote:


Is there a command-line tool that does this using some heuristics to cover
most areas that could be problematic?


Paul

  sed. tr, too, but sed would work. Something like s/[A-Z,a-z]?/``?/g. I 
didn't look
at my sed book, but that reads, substitute two single backqotes when there's
a plain double quote followed by a single character; do this globally. You
want to test that it's not a period, but a letter.

Rich

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missing character (Lyx on Mac)

2005-10-19 Thread Max

Hi everybody,

I've just installed Lyx and even though things went fairly smooth,  
I'm struggling with a bunch of minor issues.
(Using the latest Lyx version, Mac OS 10.4.2, Powerbook with a german  
keyboard. Gerben Wierda's TeX, ghostscript8, Freetype2, libiconf,  
libwmf, ImaheMagick, cm-super packages, ran the Lyx Installer script)


- Lyx won't recognize the ^ key at all (as in x^3 for x cubed).  It  
does recognizeshift ^   though, which correctly yields°on  
my german keyboard.


- Whenever I click View - DVI nothing happens. Am I not supposed to  
get some kind of window displaying the Latex source code???



I'm planning to word process my math assignments (bachelor of  
computer science), so any help is highly appreciated!



Thanks again,

Max




Re: Lyx command line question: summarized

2005-10-19 Thread Mike Meyer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
  | The problem is that for splits the returned list of files using
  | whitespace...
  
  find foo -name \*.gif -print -exec convert {} `basename {}`.png \;
  then (ha!)
 
 Thanks. I've just learnt something.
 
 Don't you have to quote the args passed to convert? Bet you still do.

Depends on the shell. { and } are magic to csh and zsh, and need
quoting if you're using those. They aren't magic to sh, so they don't
need quoting if you're using that. I don't keep bash installed, so I
don't know if you need them with bash. As an ex-csh user, I quote them
out of habit.

But the basename invocation used by lars is wrong. It needs to be
$(basename {} .gif).png (I always use $(...); you have to to nest
command substitutions, and I find it a bit more readable). If you
leave out the .gif, you get the full filename.

 Ain't scripting fun ;)

Your scripts work much better if you start them with #!/usr/bin/env python
:-).

mike
-- 
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Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information.


Re: Clever quotes

2005-10-19 Thread Angus Leeming
Paul wrote:

 Suppose I have some text that has a lot of quoted speech in it, but it's
 supplied using standard () straight single and double quotes.
 
 Is there some pre-processing tool that will try to convert them to
 proper curly quotes suitable for LaTeX (``) and ('')?
 
 I know it can't be done perfectly and will need manual tweaking, but
 there must be something to do most of the work.
 
 All I can think of is to use some word processor that has a clever
 quotes function (e.g. MS Word) and then use something like wvLatex to
 export that to LaTeX format. Or do a search and replace.
 
 Is there a command-line tool that does this using some heuristics to
 cover most areas that could be problematic?

sed, perl, python or any other scripting language would do it for you.
Here's something in python:

$ cat trial.txt
The newspaper reported he said 'The quick brown
fox jumped over
the lazy dog' 500 times in a row and then dropped down dead.

$ python quotes.py trial.txt
The newspaper reported ``he said `The quick brown
fox jumped over
the lazy dog' 500 times in a row and then dropped down dead''.

Regards,
Angus

#! /usr/bin/env python

import sys

def usage(prog_name):
return Usage: %s 'input text file'\n % prog_name


def warning(message):
sys.stderr.write(message + '\n')


def error(message):
sys.stderr.write(message + '\n')
sys.exit(1)


def manipulate(filename):
doubleq = ''
singleq = '
inside_double = 0
inside_single = 0

double_latex_lq = '``'
double_latex_rq = ''
single_latex_lq = '`'
single_latex_rq = '

try:
output = []
for line in open(filename, 'r').readlines():
for c in line:
if c == doubleq:
if not inside_double:
output.append(double_latex_lq)
inside_double = 1
else:
output.append(double_latex_rq)
inside_double = 0
elif c == singleq:
if not inside_single:
output.append(single_latex_lq)
inside_single = 1
else:
output.append(single_latex_rq)
inside_single = 0
else:
output.append(c)

return ''.join(output)

except:
warning('Unable to read %s' % filename)
return None


def main(argv):
if len(argv) != 2:
error(usage(argv[0]))

input_file = argv[1]
manipulated_text = manipulate(input_file)

if manipulated_text != None:
print manipulated_text,


if __name__ == __main__:
main(sys.argv)




Re: Clever quotes

2005-10-19 Thread Mike Meyer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rich Shepard [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
 On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, Paul wrote:
 
  Is there a command-line tool that does this using some heuristics to cover
  most areas that could be problematic?
 
 Paul
 
sed. tr, too, but sed would work. Something like s/[A-Z,a-z]?/``?/g. I 
 didn't look
 at my sed book, but that reads, substitute two single backqotes when there's
 a plain double quote followed by a single character; do this globally. You
 want to test that it's not a period, but a letter.

You want 's/\([A-Za-z]\)/``\1/g'.

mike
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Re: Clever quotes

2005-10-19 Thread Angus Leeming
Mike Meyer wrote:
 Is there a command-line tool that does this using some heuristics to
 cover most areas that could be problematic?

 sed. tr, too, but sed would work. Something like s/[A-Z,a-z]?/``?/g.
 I didn't look at my sed book, but that reads, substitute two single
 backqotes when there's a plain double quote followed by a single
 character; do this globally. You want to test that it's not a period,
 but a letter. 

 You want 's/\([A-Za-z]\)/``\1/g'.

Generally speaking, I'm a sed fan but it's not the right tool for the job
here if the quote can go over multiple lines. It's also hard (not
impossible) to keep track of whether you're inside or outside of the
quote; matters if you're using different replacements for the left and
right sides.

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PDF (dvipdfm) X PDF (pdflatex)

2005-10-19 Thread mywebs2005-lyx
I realized that export using the pdflatex do not
produce the same pdf output that the dvipdfm. The
difference lay between the size of up and bottom
margins and the size of the files. Why, PDF (pdflatex)
-- build an output with about (e.g. 29kb) and PDF
(dvipdfm) -- build an output with about (ex. 53kb).

Which one is worth to work on? And what's te
advantages and defeats of both that ways?

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Re: missing character (Lyx on Mac)

2005-10-19 Thread Bennett Helm

On Oct 19, 2005, at 8:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi everybody,

I've just installed Lyx and even though things went fairly smooth,  
I'm struggling with a bunch of minor issues.
(Using the latest Lyx version, Mac OS 10.4.2, Powerbook with a  
german keyboard. Gerben Wierda's TeX, ghostscript8, Freetype2,  
libiconf, libwmf, ImaheMagick, cm-super packages, ran the Lyx  
Installer script)


- Lyx won't recognize the ^ key at all (as in x^3 for x cubed).  It  
does recognizeshift ^   though, which correctly yields° 
on my german keyboard.


I'm not sure how the German keyboard affects this, so I'll let  
someone else answer.


- Whenever I click View - DVI nothing happens. Am I not supposed  
to get some kind of window displaying the Latex source code???


Do you have a default .dvi viewer in the Finder? If not, LyX will  
tell your Mac to open it, but your Mac won't know what to do with it,  
and nothing will happen. I suspect that's your problem.


To solve it, you can do any one of 3 things here:

1. In the Finder, find a .dvi file on your Mac (perhaps generated  
from LyX with File  Export), and do File  Get Info In the  
window that pops up, make sure your have a .dvi viewer selected in  
the Open With drop-down list, and click on the Change all button  
to make it the default for your Mac.


2. In LyX, go to File  Preferences  File Formats, and select DVI in  
the list, changing the Viewer field to open -a xxx, where xxx is  
the name of your .dvi viewer. Click the Modify button and then the  
Save button. This will make LyX use this viewer no matter what the  
OS default is.


3. Generate .PDFs instead of .DVIs (even choosing dvipdfm, if you like).

Bennett

Re: Clever quotes

2005-10-19 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Paul wrote:
 Suppose I have some text that has a lot of quoted speech in it, but it's
 supplied using standard () straight single and double quotes.

 Is there some pre-processing tool that will try to convert them to
 proper curly quotes suitable for LaTeX (``) and ('')?

Here's some post-processing:

\usepackage[english]{csquotes}
\MakeOuterQuote{}
The single quotes have to be changed, though.

Jürgen


Re: Lyx command line question

2005-10-20 Thread Roy Schestowitz

_/ On Wed 19 Oct 2005 19:42:31 BST, [Paul] wrote : \_


PS: Please always reply to the list


I second that. I noticed a tendency to reply off-list. This leaves
gaps in the mailing list archives and puts off a subset of list
subscribers. css-discuss, on the contrary, adopted some different
habits. The main question to ask is would the group or the World
Wide Web benefit from this response or is its scope too narrow?. For
the latter, in the case of Web site critique, there needn't be a
public message available as it is site-specific or refers to browser
bugs that are soon to vanish.


Maybe it's just my mail client, but this list seems to default for a
reply to the sender instead of to the list, unlike all the other lists
I've ever been on. I accidently sent a reply intended for the list to
the sender and didn't realise until a few days later. So maybe other
people have the same problem.


I  hope  you  didn't  find offence in that, Paul. The trick is  to  use  a
feature/widget  called Reply to list if your clients presents it. I per-
sonally  use  Thunderbird for mail (locally) and Horde for mailing  lists.
Experience has taught me how to reply correctly, having made some mistakes
in  the  past. If nobody pointed this out, you possibly would  never  have
learned. Think of it as a gentle reminder.

Best Wishes,

Roy

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How to recover dvi - ps - pdf output?

2005-10-20 Thread Stefano Franchi
	I need to recover the ability to generate (and see) a Pdf file via the 
dvips route. I lost the relevant items in the View menu a long time 
ago and never  bother fixing the problem, because I was happy with 
pdftex. But now I have problems with the latter (after installing some 
fancy fonts) and need to go the other route. Can anyone remind me how 
to reinstruct LyX to perform the proper conversions?


I am on a Mac, 10.3.9, running LyX 1.3.6 with Gerben Wierda's version 
of TeTex. dvips and company work fine when used from the console and/or 
TexShop.


I know this is a question that has been asked many times, but my search 
through the archives didn't help. Apologies in advance.



Many thanks,

Stefano


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