Re: [MBZ] OT: Volvo fun

2024-02-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Lesson learned if I ever need to take that manifold off again, I need to pull it back just far enough to unplug that connector, before lifting it up and out. Probably would have been described in the shop manual if I had one, though sometimes they just say something like "unbolt and remove the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Volvo fun

2024-02-15 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 13:17:17 -0500 Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: > Well finally got this done. Waited for a warm(er) day, soldered up all > the connectors, which was more tedious than I had expected. Really glad > I was able to get the wiring up to the top of the engine bay it would > have

Re: [MBZ] OT: Volvo fun

2024-02-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Well finally got this done. Waited for a warm(er) day, soldered up all the connectors, which was more tedious than I had expected. Really glad I was able to get the wiring up to the top of the engine bay it would have been a real bear otherwise. That connection is totally hidden behind the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Volvo fun

2024-02-11 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
2009 XC90. Bought it only because I knew the seller and he had cared for it meticulously. It needed rear wheel bearings, he didn't want to spend the money, and he gave me a good deal. It's been a good car overall. Comfortable, well made, pretty easy to work on overall. It's a two wheel drive

Re: [MBZ] OT: Volvo fun

2024-02-11 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I know you have referred to the Volvo previously, but I don't recall all of it. What year, and model is it, what mileage on it, and has it been a good car? Randy On 11/02/2024 3:57 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: I found a wiring diagram, and I've been able to work out how to

Re: [MBZ] OT: Volvo fun

2024-02-11 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
When you are bent over working on this, just keep thinking about the hourly rate the shop would be charging you, probably including  to repair this, even if they, like you, had inadvertently created the problem. Randy On 11/02/2024 3:57 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: I found a wiring

Re: [MBZ] OT: Volvo fun

2024-02-11 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I found a wiring diagram, and I've been able to work out how to disassemble the connector plug. The individual connectors were crimped on to the wires. The crimp that was on the insulated part of the wire I can reopen, but the crimp that actually made the connection is too flattened. I'm

Re: [MBZ] OT: Volvo fun

2024-02-11 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Well I found the problem and it's the ham-fisted mechanic who was working on the car (that's me). The intake manifold runs down between the engine and the radiator and converges at the throttle body which is near the bottom of the radiator. Hard to see around it and hard to reach it from above

Re: [MBZ] OT: Volvo fun

2024-02-09 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Guess it's possible. I had the battery ground post disconnected the whole time I was working though, because I knew I would be unplugging stuff and removing the alternator. The plug for the MAP sensor had the locking tab snap off. I used a zip-tie to secure it when I put it back but maybe it's

Re: [MBZ] OT: Volvo fun

2024-02-09 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Fuses? --FT Sent from iFōn > On Feb 9, 2024, at 8:52 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Well got all the parts and got it back together. Now running very poorly, > codes for MAP sensor and Throttle Position sensor. Weird. Had to unplug > several electrical connectors off of the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Volvo fun

2024-02-09 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Well got all the parts and got it back together. Now running very poorly, codes for MAP sensor and Throttle Position sensor. Weird. Had to unplug several electrical connectors off of the intake manifold/throttle body (it all comes off as one assembly) but everything seemed to connect back up

Re: [MBZ] OT: Volvo fun

2024-02-05 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Didn't end up being too bad. Took maybe an hour to get the intake manifold out, could do it faster a second time. Once that was out removing the alternator was easy. Took a few photos, this one shows the gear-like toothed wheel that drives the alternator via a rubber coupler (alternator has

Re: [MBZ] OT: Volvo fun

2024-02-04 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sun, 04 Feb 2024 15:28:08 -0500 Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: > To get at the alternator and coupling, the intake manifold has to come > off. You're kidding! > So I'm going to look into that job. Sounds like it might be a bit of a > PITA. Suppose I should just go ahead and replace the

[MBZ] OT: Volvo fun

2024-02-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Son was on his way to work this morning in the '09 XC90. He called to state that he had "broken down" and there was a message "POWER SYSTEM SERVICE URGENT" on the dash. I drove to his location and scanned the codes. P062001 Generator control circuit, General electrical fault and P062074

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo oil fail

2023-05-23 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
o be sure, and it was bone dry. > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: May 23, 2023 6:28 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: astr...@fastmail.fm > Subject: [MBZ] OT Volvo oil fail > > Went to change oil on the 06 XC90 a

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo oil fail

2023-05-23 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
: astr...@fastmail.fm Subject: [MBZ] OT Volvo oil fail Went to change oil on the 06 XC90 and was looking forward to using the Harbor Freight oil sucker to do a topside change. Everything started out well but only drained 4 quarts before it starting sucking air. I know the car takes nearly 8

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo oil fail

2023-05-23 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
--FT Sent from iFōn > On May 23, 2023, at 7:55 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Offer? No lowballs I no wha t I got > >> On Tue, May 23, 2023, at 19:47, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: >> Sell it and buy another Benz >> >> --FT >> Sent from iFōn >> On May 23, 2023,

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo oil fail

2023-05-23 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Offer? No lowballs I no wha t I got On Tue, May 23, 2023, at 19:47, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > Sell it and buy another Benz > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > >> On May 23, 2023, at 7:28 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Went to change oil on the 06 XC90 and was looking

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo oil fail

2023-05-23 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Sell it and buy another Benz --FT Sent from iFōn > On May 23, 2023, at 7:28 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Went to change oil on the 06 XC90 and was looking forward to using the > Harbor Freight oil sucker to do a topside change. Everything started out well > but only drained

[MBZ] OT Volvo oil fail

2023-05-23 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Went to change oil on the 06 XC90 and was looking forward to using the Harbor Freight oil sucker to do a topside change. Everything started out well but only drained 4 quarts before it starting sucking air. I know the car takes nearly 8 quarts for a change. Had to get out my drain pan and crawl

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo heater blower

2022-01-08 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Same. Glove box out, remove a panel under the dash, stand on your head to get at the screws. On Sat, Jan 8, 2022, at 8:43 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > I replaced the same stuff on my 211 wagon. It wasn’t too hard other > than the contortions to get under the dash and get at the

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo heater blower

2022-01-08 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I replaced the same stuff on my 211 wagon. It wasn’t too hard other than the contortions to get under the dash and get at the screws. I think maybe the controller was ok but the blower was inop. --FT Sent from iFōn > On Jan 8, 2022, at 7:52 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > >

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo heater blower

2022-01-08 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Sounds like good decisions and sound work. Just be thankful that it wasn't a W115 chassis! On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 6:52 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Replaced today, and I have heat again. Of course it would happen on the > coldest days of the winter so far. And

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo heater blower

2022-01-08 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
Attaboy! Kevin in Lexington, NC Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 8, 2022, at 7:52 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Replaced today, and I have heat again. Of course it would happen on the > coldest days of the winter so far. And though it was a little warmer today, > it started

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo heater blower

2022-01-08 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Replaced today, and I have heat again. Of course it would happen on the coldest days of the winter so far. And though it was a little warmer today, it started raining about halfway through the job. Always the way it goes it seems. I replaced both the blower motor and the control board. Looking

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo heater blower

2022-01-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Well I have the parts ordered. $285 from FCP Euro for a new blower, new "resistor pack" (it's actually a more sophisticated electronic speed control, recommended to replace while you have the fan out) and a new cabin air filter. Went with Mahle Behr brands so it was a bit more expensive than it

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo heater blower

2022-01-04 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
We used to run a quart of oil in 5 gallons of gas in 2 stroke boat motors. I guess oil has become much better as we now run those old motors on 50:1. I wonder if you can do that with an old Saab? Randy On 04/01/2022 3:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Those Saabs were something

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo heater blower

2022-01-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Those Saabs were something else. 7 gallons of gas per liter (quart) of oil. What a joke. On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 2:29 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > That was Saabs. > > -D > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Jan 4, 2022, at 12:25 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes < >

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo heater blower

2022-01-04 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
That was Saabs. -D Sent from my iPad > On Jan 4, 2022, at 12:25 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Did that have the 2-stroke engine? Or was that Saab? > > >> On Tue, Jan 4, 2022, at 1:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >> Thanks for the info. I loved my Volvo in the pre-Benz days

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo heater blower

2022-01-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Did that have the 2-stroke engine? Or was that Saab? On Tue, Jan 4, 2022, at 1:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > Thanks for the info. I loved my Volvo in the pre-Benz days but that was a > 1959 544S. > > On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 11:47 AM Allan Streib wrote: >> __ >> 2009. I needed an SUV and a

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo heater blower

2022-01-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Thanks for the info. I loved my Volvo in the pre-Benz days but that was a 1959 544S. On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 11:47 AM Allan Streib wrote: > 2009. I needed an SUV and a guy at work was selling it. Got a good deal on > it because it needed new rear wheel bearings. It was very well maintained >

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo heater blower

2022-01-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
2009. I needed an SUV and a guy at work was selling it. Got a good deal on it because it needed new rear wheel bearings. It was very well maintained otherwise, he had all the records and always went to the dealer even for stuff like tires and wiper blades. It's actually a very nice car,

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo heater blower

2022-01-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What year is that Volvo? WHy do you own it?? On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 9:30 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Blower in the XC90 suddenly not working today. Checked the fuse, it was > OK. Replaced it anyway just in case, nothing. > > The official R calls for removing

[MBZ] OT Volvo heater blower

2022-01-03 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Blower in the XC90 suddenly not working today. Checked the fuse, it was OK. Replaced it anyway just in case, nothing. The official R calls for removing half the dash. It's about $1,000 job at the stealer. YouTuber has posted a way to break a plastic tab and do the job in an hour. Will be

[MBZ] OT: volvo crack 1991 240 - $3,500

2021-03-28 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
"I've had it 5+ years and always fixed everything that's come up." Nevertheless has check engine light is on for a 1-1-3 running rich/lean code; Tail light wiring issues; Odometer not working. Then this: "I'm not looking to sell this to someone who's going to beat it into the ground or

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo and Sirius draining battery

2020-06-30 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 19:34:31 -0400 Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: > The claim is that the Sirius tuner in the radio will continually scan > for a signal regardless of whether the car or radio is on or > not. Apparently a software update is available to fix this but may have > a cost. >

[MBZ] OT Volvo and Sirius draining battery

2020-06-30 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Ever since I've had my XC-90 I've had intermittent battery drains to the point where the car won't start. Happens infrequently, maybe once every three or four months. Happened again today. Doesn't seem to be directly related to how long the vehicle has been sitting, though I haven't really tracked

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo C30 wreck

2019-06-05 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Certainly good advice on how to respond to the insco. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Wed, Jun 5, 2019, 7:02 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > A friend got in a crash this morning in her 2008 Volvo C30, that little > hatchback coupe. It was in pretty decent

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo C30 wreck

2019-06-05 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On June 5, 2019 at 8:03 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > > May have to pay dealer or someone to re-program > after the airbags are replaced? After I paid somebody $40 each to clear the crash codes out of two airbag computers, I found out that somebody with a really good scan

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo C30 wreck

2019-06-05 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
My '95 E300 buy-back price was $300, so total check will be about $3100. Plenty more than I need to make a decent looking repair. She should pray for a total loss, get some junk-yard air bags and a door, buy you a PDR kit for $70 and you can probably make it look pretty darn decent, and she'll

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo C30 wreck

2019-06-05 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
If it has air bags that deploy in sets, she should replace the driver's side ones if she's going to drive it. The US cars tend to deploy head curtains in all or nothing fashion, and other side bags in full side fashion, but I don't know about Volvo. If she keeps the car and lets them mess up

[MBZ] OT Volvo C30 wreck

2019-06-05 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
A friend got in a crash this morning in her 2008 Volvo C30, that little hatchback coupe.  It was in pretty decent condition, she took pretty good care of it.  Whatever hit it dented in the passenger door and the panel right behind the door ahead of the rear wheel.  Looks like the side airbags

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo

2019-04-18 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I did end up buying it had bad rear wheel bearings (common problem I guess, and disclosed by seller). Bought a couple of Timken rear hubs from RockAuto, and when I opened the box they were in Volvo bags with part numbers so I guess that's a good sign. Installation was a bit of a pain. Took

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo

2019-03-28 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
Sort of true. My little sister got herself a volvo wagon XC to haul her kids. She drove that into the ground. The last years of the car were utter neglect because she had to drive out of MT, across ID and into WA to find a service provider any time something would go wrong. She ended up

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo

2019-03-28 Thread Peter Hertzing via Mercedes
Should be good then.. I’ve had a couple of those up to 250k... Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 28, 2019, at 10:55 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > It's the 3.2 l 6 cylinder, FWD. > > Allan > > Peter Hertzing via Mercedes writes: > >> Big question is what engine... avoid the V8 >>

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo

2019-03-28 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
It's the 3.2 l 6 cylinder, FWD. Allan Peter Hertzing via Mercedes writes: > Big question is what engine... avoid the V8 > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 28, 2019, at 8:01 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I've not priced much in Volvo stuff but I've been around a few Volvo

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo

2019-03-28 Thread Peter Hertzing via Mercedes
Big question is what engine... avoid the V8 Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 28, 2019, at 8:01 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > I've not priced much in Volvo stuff but I've been around a few Volvo > enthusiasts in my time and not heard anything about parts being hard to find > or

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo

2019-03-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I Drove a 1959 Volvo in 1969. Toured all day at 77 mph. On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 9:01 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I've not priced much in Volvo stuff but I've been around a few Volvo > enthusiasts in my time and not heard anything about parts being hard to >

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo

2019-03-28 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I've not priced much in Volvo stuff but I've been around a few Volvo enthusiasts in my time and not heard anything about parts being hard to find or expensive. Next you'll tell me TDI parts are hard to find and over priced. Non-enthusiasts, generally don't know anything about cars and have been

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo

2019-03-27 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
THat's an OXYmoron volvo owners are notorious for never fixing anything because the parts are outrageous IF you can find em. Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote on 3/27/19 9:44 AM: seems well maintained ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

[MBZ] OT Volvo

2019-03-27 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Anyone familiar with the Volvo XC90 line? There is a 2009 available here pretty cheap. Needs rear wheel bearings, otherwise seems well maintained, local owner, records, etc. Looking at a few videos online, the bearing replacement looks like a reasonably straightforward job. Looking at it as a

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo Wagon Question.

2012-08-15 Thread Donald Snook
Rich wrote: Sounds like an alignment issue (perhaps the simplest thing to check first). When I rebuilt the suspension on the 300TD it of course was out of spec, and when I drove it a few miles to the alignment shop it was really nasty like you describe. When I recently did the 300SD I got it

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo Wagon Question.

2012-08-15 Thread Donald Snook
Dave L. wrote: Isn't this the exact reason that you should always replace tires in a set of 4 on an AWD vehicle? I would suspect that the rear tires are larger diameter. I thought so, too. But, it turns out it was two problems. The tires need to be replaced, but the real problem was the

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo Wagon Question.

2012-08-15 Thread Donald Snook
Thomas S. wrote: Mine too. Is it beige? My mother is pretty beige. But, of course, she is almost 70. Actually, the car is a nice dark blue with black leather interior. It wouldn't be my choice in cars, but she likes it and its paid for and only has 105,000 miles. Donald H. Snook

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo Wagon Question.

2012-08-15 Thread Rich Thomas
WOOO WOOO Rich wins the internet today! --R On 8/15/12 11:30 AM, Donald Snook wrote: Rich wrote: Sounds like an alignment issue (perhaps the simplest thing to check first). When I rebuilt the suspension on the 300TD it of course was out of spec, and when I drove it a few miles to the

[MBZ] OT Volvo Wagon Question.

2012-08-14 Thread Donald Snook
My mother has a 2003 Volvo XC70 Wagon with the 2.5Turbo engine and AWD. Recently, she replaced the tires and they put them on the rear. The front tires should be replaced fairly soon. She claims that after that the car started riding oddly and just didn't seem very tight. I drove it last

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo Wagon Question.

2012-08-14 Thread Rich Thomas
Sounds like an alignment issue (perhaps the simplest thing to check first). When I rebuilt the suspension on the 300TD it of course was out of spec, and when I drove it a few miles to the alignment shop it was really nasty like you describe. When I recently did the 300SD I got it aligned a

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo Wagon Question.

2012-08-14 Thread Max Dillon
Start with simple and what you know, which is that the front tires need to be replaced. Odd turning behavior could be broken belts in the tires, duck-walk really sounds like broken belts. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: My mother has a 2003

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo Wagon Question.

2012-08-14 Thread dblidd
Message: 2 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 09:25:33 -0500 From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT Volvo Wagon Question. Message-ID: a0121bfa28702c4fa69fc5d9ceb56d08018db9e49...@mtsqhexc2.mtsqh.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo Wagon Question.

2012-08-14 Thread Thomas Savage
My mother has a 2003 Volvo XC70 Wagon with the 2.5Turbo engine and AWD. Mine too. Is it beige? Isn't this the exact reason that you should always replace tires in a set of 4 on an AWD vehicle? I would suspect that the rear tires are larger diameter. Yep. The allowable limit in tread

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo

2008-09-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
in the 300E, it will get 28-29 on the highway with 87 Donald Snook wrote: I took my new acquisition, a 1990 Volvo 240DL, on a trip this weekend. We drove to Springfield, Missouri. It was about a 650 mile trip and I got 26.2 MPG driving 70-75. The car performed perfectly. I have noticed

[MBZ] OT Volvo

2008-09-02 Thread Donald Snook
I took my new acquisition, a 1990 Volvo 240DL, on a trip this weekend. We drove to Springfield, Missouri. It was about a 650 mile trip and I got 26.2 MPG driving 70-75. The car performed perfectly. I have noticed that if I use 87 octane, I get some pinging. I put 89 in and it cleared right

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo

2008-09-02 Thread Tyler Backman
You shouldn't get any pinging on 87 unless there's something wrong (carboned up? wrong temp spark plugs? advanced timing?). I've never had pinging issues running 87 in my Volvos, even on turbo models (at stock boost anyways). Sincerely, Tyler William H Backman 1987 190D Turbo Biodiesel On

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo

2008-09-02 Thread Donald Snook
Tyler wrote: You shouldn't get any pinging on 87 unless there's something wrong (carboned up? wrong temp spark plugs? advanced timing?). I've never had pinging issues running 87 in my Volvos, even on turbo models (at stock boost anyways). That is what I thought. But, the owners manual

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo

2008-09-02 Thread Mitch Haley
Donald Snook wrote: the owners manual recommended at 91 and said 87 was the minimum. Perhaps it has a knock sensor that detunes it for 87 octane and the sensor is dead? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo

2008-09-02 Thread Allan Streib
Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That is what I thought. But, the owners manual recommended at 91 and said 87 was the minimum. Sometimes european cars quote the research octane number (RON) which is a bit higher than the equivalant number here in the USA. IIRC, 91 RON is regular 87

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240...Stopped at a light doing about 40.......

2008-08-08 Thread Fmiser
...while stopped at a light doing about 40 MPH. Now _that's_ amazing!! -- Philip === OK Philip, let me clarify..Wife was STOPPED at a light. Airhead college student on cell phone REAR-ENDS the Volvo doing about 40. I did

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240...Stopped at a light doing about 40.......

2008-08-07 Thread ANGELO GIAIMO
On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 Fmiser Wrote: ...while stopped at a light doing about 40 MPH. Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS Now _that's_ amazing!! -- Philip === OK Philip, let me clarify..Wife was STOPPED at a light. Airhead college student

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240

2008-08-06 Thread ANGELO GIAIMO
Bought one new in 1990, 4 cyl stickonly way I would have bought one as the auto slushbox was a slug. Only left me stranded once with a bad airflow sensor, other than that, regular maintenance is all it required. Got totaled about 18 months ago when some airhead collage student on a cell

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240

2008-08-06 Thread Tyler Backman
I think that they're the most durable cars ever made. You can reasonably expect to get 500k to a million miles if you maintain it properly, even if driven hard and used on poor quality roads. They're not however incredibly cheap to drive (due to fairly poor fuel economy by 190d standards

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240

2008-08-06 Thread Steve MacSween
One more thing: rust is the enemy if you are the northeast. If you are located there, no matter what the car looks like from the outside, raise or crawl underneath with something to poke the floor and chassis outriggers with. Particularly prone to driver footwell rot. They are about the

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240

2008-08-06 Thread Tyler Backman
Having owned every year of Volvo 240 made except 91, 92, and 93 (seriously), I have to disagree with some of what you said. Most of the problems with the early 80s 240s (cheap interiors, falling of trim, bad wiring) didn't exist on the early 1975-1979 models. I would say that those were

[MBZ] OT Volvo 240

2008-08-06 Thread Glenn Brown
When I finally donated my '82 245GL Volvo to the SA in 2003, when there was little solid metal remaining holding things together, the cruise control and auto AC still worked. Experiencing this with an '80s MB with their lousy electronic modules would be a rarity. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240

2008-08-06 Thread Mitch Haley
There's a 740 within 20 miles of me. Maybe Curt can pick it up on his way home from Iowa. http://kalamazoo.craigslist.org/car/778108532.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240

2008-08-06 Thread Curt Raymond
You think it could drag the Quantum? I could be a delivery service! -Curt Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:02:43 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240

2008-08-06 Thread Fmiser
...while stopped at a light doing about 40 MPH. Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS Now _that's_ amazing!! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240

2008-08-06 Thread Wonko the Sane
Quantum does have a hitch (thank you, Loren). On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You think it could drag the Quantum? I could be a delivery service! -Curt Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:02:43 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240

2008-08-06 Thread Loren Faeth
the Quantum? I could be a delivery service! -Curt Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:02:43 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240

2008-08-06 Thread Wonko the Sane
In other words, he is cleared to tow an MGB or a Ford Focus. Perhaps a Sprite. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Works best if the towed vehicle is significantly lighter than the towing vehicle. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240

2008-08-06 Thread OK Don
There's a Spriget at a car lot that I was every day on the way to work - have resisted the temptation to stop so far On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In other words, he is cleared to tow an MGB or a Ford Focus. Perhaps a Sprite. -- OK Don, KD5NRO

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240

2008-08-06 Thread Steve MacSween
Well, Tyler, I might observe that there is a difference between giving general advice about a specific Volvo on a Mercedes list and plowing into the depths of Volvo trivia that will only have relevance to the recovering Volvo owners on this list. Rather than start a sh*tfest, I deleted the rest

[MBZ] OT Volvo 240

2008-08-05 Thread Donald Snook
I found a 1990 Volvo 240. It is a 1 owner car with 135,000 miles and perfect shape. I have never had one of these. I think I have asked about Volvos and somebody said there were a couple of models to avoid. The only complaints I seen from reviews online is that they are pretty slow to

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240

2008-08-05 Thread Rolf
TANKS. If a Volvo 240 and a W123 ever got in a wreck *shudder*. My mom had 24X's during the 80s. You want to avoid the Ford ones, later 90s etc. They are dog slow, I would compare to a NA 300D. Engines are pretty reliable but I always thought the interior was VW like in quality. -Rolf Donald

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240

2008-08-05 Thread Rich Thomas
My buddy had one about that vintage -- the box right? These are also known as a Cambridge Cadillac. His was a manual stripper model (he was a cheap bastard who had a lot of money, I guess that's why) and he beat it and it just kept going and going. He finally got rid of it when a buddy of

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240

2008-08-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
Free Tibet is a Republicn mantra except when it may offend our Chinese hosts. On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My buddy had one about that vintage -- the box right? These are also known as a Cambridge Cadillac. His was a manual stripper model (he was a

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240

2008-08-05 Thread Rich Thomas
Damn, you're gonna have to go to Harvard Square with a sign and explain that to all the swells. Be very careful though. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: Free Tibet is a Republicn mantra except when it may offend our Chinese hosts. On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240

2008-08-05 Thread Loren Faeth
Tank. The only thing in the world that might outlive 240Ds. Everybody I know of that ever had one, swore by it. One observer noticed that while MB owners tend to keep their cars fixed, that volvo owners never fix anything. This is perhaps out of necessity, because parts are wither

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240

2008-08-05 Thread Donald Snook
Randy wrote: You will need to get a pipe and a porkpie hat and some Save the Whales and Free Tibet and Obama 08 -- Pump Up Your Tires stickers to put on it. I already smoke a pipe - just not when it is so stinking hot outside. I will not put an Obama '08 sticker on it. I need to find a

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240

2008-08-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Donald Snook wrote: I need to find a vehicle to put my original Nixon '72 sticker on. No kidding. Nixon, that Carter boob, even Lyndon Baines would be a far sight better than the two most likely winners of this years race. I'd rank McLAme somewhere below Jesse Ventura and above Arnold

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240

2008-08-05 Thread OK Don
Ahh - you need a Hummer! I need to find a vehicle to put my original Nixon '72 sticker on. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240

2008-08-05 Thread Rolf
And not the stinking H3 or H2. Army grade and non diesel! -Rolf OK Don wrote: Ahh - you need a Hummer! I need to find a vehicle to put my original Nixon '72 sticker on. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240

2008-08-05 Thread Loren Faeth
or the army equivalent to a CJ3b, 1952 or so. At 05:03 PM 8/5/2008, you wrote: Ahh - you need a Hummer! I need to find a vehicle to put my original Nixon '72 sticker on. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli,

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240

2008-08-05 Thread MG
Shouldn't that be Pump up your tires with Obama in 08 seems to me it would save a lot more power to use his hot air for something. Manfred Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:00:28 -0400 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240

2008-08-05 Thread Peter Frederick
The late 240 and 7xx series cars were superb. I almost bought one, and still have a 740 TD that needs to get going again. Probably the least troublesome cars I know of, given their longevity. ] Look up swedishbrick.com and the Brickboard.com, (or something similar) for a good discussion

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo 240

2008-08-05 Thread Steve MacSween
They are basically good cars that by 1990 had been pretty well sorted out (about time, seeing as they made their debut in Europe in late 1974). You will find trim pieces (both interior and exterior) break easily and are generally way inferior to Mercedes. Exterior trim bits are insanely expensive

[MBZ] OT Volvo

2008-05-23 Thread Donald Snook
In the past, I emailed the list about some 80's vintage Volvo wagons. I think it was a mixed review. But, I found a 1995 850 (sedan) that is cheap and looks VERY nice. It is the 2.3 5 cylinder turbo. Looks like a very nice car. Does anyone know anything about these? I really like the

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo

2008-05-23 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the past, I emailed the list about some 80's vintage Volvo wagons. I think it was a mixed review. But, I found a 1995 850 (sedan) that is cheap and looks VERY nice. It is the 2.3 5 cylinder turbo. Looks like a very

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo

2008-05-23 Thread Allan Streib
Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: In the past, I emailed the list about some 80's vintage Volvo wagons. I think it was a mixed review. But, I found a 1995 850 (sedan) that is cheap and looks VERY nice. It is the 2.3 5 cylinder turbo. Looks like a very nice car. Does anyone know

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo

2008-05-23 Thread Mitch Haley
I think I'd rather have a 900 or 9000 Saab than a FWD Vulva. (I'm an old time Saab nut, but I like the 245 DL etc) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo

2008-05-23 Thread R A Bennell
There is a fellow on the other MB list who seems quite knowledgable about Volvo's. Michael Coleman. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 10:03 AM To: 'mercedes@okiebenz.com' Subject: [MBZ] OT Volvo

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