ually looking like it's right.
--differing album artists could work. If the compilation tag is set
they'd still appear in one spot.
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I've always gotten around copy protection, too... However, from what I
understand, it only takes autorun to go once to have the software put on
your computer. You may want to be make sure it isn't already there.
Only once do I remember having a hard time to the point that I had to
try something
andynormancx wrote:
> That is exactly what I had to resort to my 20+ year old copy of U2's
> Joshua Tree.
>
> It wouldn't rip, so I bought a new copy which also wouldn't rip. It
> which point I went and found a quality torrent for it.
That's strange, only because I've ripped two copies of the a
JYVD wrote:
> I wanted to thank you all for your help. Could not solve the problem. I
> will have to buy CD s pressed after 2007 but how can you tell ? Also I
> found a site called qobuz where you can download CD quality and even
> superior to standard CD quality. Tried that last one called maste
Well, there is a "standard" (you'd have to look around a bit) tag that
is called Original Year (or something similar). Since you are using
FLAC files, you could create such a tag. You could use that to store
the date you want and leave the standard date field to keep the album
year in place.
As
I've been able to rip from a Blu-Ray, but I ultimately have to process
it into a flac file not much different than if I had a been ripping a
DVD (AC3 to a 2-ch SPDIF flac file). The only difference is that I have
to downsample the Bluray DTS to standard DTS as I have not been able to
stream the H
bengaldave wrote:
>
> Is this a waste of time?
>
It's only a waste if you think it is. I'd hardly call the online
databases authorities on how you should tag your own music. It's bad
enough that those databases will have errors and inconsistently tag
albums. They are, afterall, often filled
Besides the sillyness, I typically use Artistsort to reflect where I'd
expect to find the artist in a record store rather than any special
rule. My artist names are usually as we see them, but I'd expect to
find people like Elton John under John, Elton, so I set the Artistsort
accordingly. The g
reinholdk wrote:
> The same is true for me, as explained above. The silliness came from
> imagining the possible outcome of an automatically (rule-based)
> generated artistsort tag.
>
True... I don't use rule based but rather the web-based db's typically
do an OK job of filling things in for
Skillet Liquor wrote:
> Turns out I *did* have some tagging issues causing problems. I didn't
> realize that an incorrectly/carelessly tagged compilation album would
> basically bootstrap all of the other single-artist albums by artists on
> that same comp. I should have realized that. Sorry to j
jimbobvfr400 wrote:
> Either I'm controlling using either squeeze commander or orange squeeze
> which both have headers for each letter or I'm using the touch screen in
> which case a tap of the scroll bar on the right will flash up the letter
> I'm on. Plus I tend to drag the scroll bar and use
I used to do something similar with years to handle boots. I would add
1000 years to the years. Using Original Year, I don't think will help
you as I think sorting by year fixes on the Year tag only. It was
fairly easy to deal with since I didn't really care that the year tag
was right. It kep
gorman wrote:
> Yeah but the thing is you refer to standard DTS, whereas standard DTS on
> DVD more often than not is 768kbps. Half the bitrate you can get out of
> DTS-HD downsampled.
True... I think I've had to go to the 768kbps rate because of the
bandwidth and internal conversion by my recei
Mnyb wrote:
> Well thankyou for that now i have a better tool :)
>
> I sometimes use command-line tools in LInux but this is far more
> convenient , I don do this that often so I tend to forget the command
> syntax resulting in a lot of googling
Second that thanks. I don't recall having any i
BJW wrote:
> not in Logitech server you don't. it always gives you ONLY the album
> artist, (for lists), at least from home menus.
IF... your track artists are only set to the album artist, which you
indicated you do.
While I do tend to think in terms of Album Artist (like you stated), I
hate
I don't use cue sheets myself but I've split them and have received them
with live recordings in the past.
I'm not sure it's proper form for cue sheets, but I've occasionally seen
them used as a sort of playlist in the sense that each track in a cue
file refers to a different file (as a way to "t
Back to the OP,
I was in the process of dealing with the issue of Classical music in my
collection, but I only got as far as dealing with the tags. I use FLAC
files and MP3Tag to tag them.
As a start, I basically created or filled tags that were there or I
custom created for classical music.
I'm sorry. I meant that 7.9 sounds a little more flexible or easier to
set up multiple libraries, not with regard to classical music or
different fields.
I still run 7.8, so I don't know for sure about 7.9. I tried it once a
year ago, but I couldn't get it to run correctly.
In my 7.8 setup, I
As an aside, I had planned on setting up a separate library and browsing
system for Jazz music, which I typically have more of than Classical. I
wanted to somehow put together metadata to capture performers and their
instruments. That's a bit more abstract thinking than I expected mostly
because
Next time it happens, I would suggest using a different media player to
verify what you see. WMP is a bit funny. It might work off of hidden
files or its own cache. Windows as a whole keeps its own cache for all
sorts of metadata (music, photos, videos, etc).
On a side note, I once had some mp
I like the original idea. I've considered it and how to implement it
years ago going as far as writing a script for my old Music DAM software
that utilized a thesaurus.
In actual use, I didn't find it very useful because in LMS and others I
ended up with something like the 500 genres described
Agree with others regarding ripping. If you are already lossless, then
it is "just" a retagging issue. Of course, tagging isn't that easy and
can be a 2-time job too as it doesn't always become clear what you need
until you think you are done once or you start figuring out the gaps.
With regard
This is a bit of a side question since the user purchased FLAC files
that apparently have ID3 tags.
Is this a potential flag that the files were originally MP3 files?
Has anyone ever purchased FLAC files that ended up being converted from
MP3's? I'm guessing one could tell fairly easily if buyi
Mnyb wrote:
> LMS may strip out leading spaces in the web UI but ive experienced 2
> instances of what looked like the same artist but really it was a space
> before one of them .
> Maybe it has some logik when using ; but i would not rely on that
I've had this happen too. But, I actually use /
JohnB wrote:
> I wouldn't expect the scanner to correct when extra spaces are inserted
> between two words when both form a single tag (e.g. Miles^^Davis, where
> each "^" represents a space). However, stripping leading and trailing
> spaces from user editable fields (i.e. tags) is sensible - and
JohnB wrote:
> Don't you need \\ in mp3tag, rather than \? I guess the forum software
> changed what you wrote as it seems to dislike \ or \\ when enclosed in
> quotes!!
>
> The Action would be quite basic, though actions do seem complicated when
> people aren't used to them.
>
> To create a ne
bakker_be wrote:
> Strange, I myself also use Mediamonkey, as I haven't found a better
> alternative on Windows either, and I don't have any issues with multiple
> entries in the same tag, using semicolon as a separator (as proposed by
> default by both LMS and Mediamonkey).
It isn't the multipl
I've seen the case of multiple albums tagged discussed elsewhere (other
software), and I think it is something that just isn't handled well by
software because it is a bit abstract. In theory it is possible, but I
think that a lot of software just doesn't support it. I think the
expectation is t
JJZolx wrote:
> ALBUM=Riding with the King
> ALBUMARTIST=Eric Clapton & B.B. King
> ARTIST=Eric Clapton
> ARTIST=B.B. King
>
> Tagged in this manner, the album -will- show up under both Eric Clapton
> and B.B. King. This approach means that artists that don't have other
> full albums won't appea
My solution to the scenario described is to generally name the primary
album tracks with the album title.
The bonus tracks will then get an album title that is of the style
"Album (extended)" usually named to match how it may popularly be
identified elsewhere e.g. tack on a Limited Edition, R
iPhone wrote:
> Yes and to my listening pleasure no. I didn't delete the original Red
> Books until after listening to the interview where Ringo is discussing
> the 24/96 Remasters and how the bass and drums are the way he wanted
> them for the original recordings. So Yes the track lists are all
To add two-cents, if you ever use multiple tags (say multiple artist
tags) and accidentally make a mistake with the order, that will mess
things up.
Also, going back to earlier discussion about tag types, I've had
instances where multiple tag types were written to files (ID3v1 and
ID3v2 or even
fphredd wrote:
> Thanks to all who responded. After opening the entire music directory in
> MP3 tag, it does seem to be stray "Composer" tags. Unfortunately for me,
> taking that out actually messes up what I used that field for (once upon
> a time...I think?). Anyway, now I know the cause, just
My experience has been that LMS will only associate one album cover with
an album (regardless of whether you have different album covers embedded
in each file). I think this is part of the database structure.
Thus, even if you are successful getting each file into its own folder
but recognized
kbeast wrote:
> I personally use audacity to split up the tracks as song / silence /
> hidden track or whatever needs to be done, export them as flac again and
> tag them to match the rest of the album. I then take the original flac
> and rar it so i have it preserved.
>
> If you use cue sheet
w3wilkes wrote:
> I believe DBPowerAmp will rip a hidden 1st track. I think it will be
> unchecked by default, but all you have to do is check that track and it
> will be ripped with the rest of the CD.
I'll have to check on that. I think the issue is also a hardware/driver
issue, at least tha
BJW wrote:
> Ok, so since it has been said by me, why not try it?
>
> I can guarantee u that no comp tag is *not* the same as comp=0
>
> ...but i never guarantee what server will do. Still, give it a whirl,
> see if it does what u want.
I second the above.
The difference between a comp=0 an
BJW wrote:
> Another one of servers bizarre, unintuitive behaviors. My workaround is
> to put album artist tags on everything. Has the benefit of giving a
> similar exp in almost all software. Comp tags that =1 are optional but
> do no harm (generally speaking).
THis is how I do it.
This re
I do think care needs to be taken as some software gives the option of
actually adjusting the levels in the file?
I don't recommend that option, but watch out for it. It is a permanent
change that it would seem rare that someone would want (at least in this
day and age). I suspect it was mor
BJW wrote:
> Personally, I have never had to set a comp=0 tag, ever, for anything.
>
> I have never had server call something with no comp tags AND album
> artist tags a comp. if it ever has done so, I would love to know the
> criteria necessary to cause it?
>
> My understanding is this:
>
A benefit to going with FLAC (or perhaps ALAC if one was inclined) is
that the tags and files are likely to be more widely supported.
I've not used WAV files directly, but for a while (before FLAC really
took off), I was using APE and SHN files. I probably would have stuck
with them, but supp
elstensoftware wrote:
> It was certainly a problem with old and unmaintained players, but what
> new players don't support it?
>
> I guess there are car stereos etc...
I find that most (not all) players in Android don't support it (or only
loosely support it). I can't be specific because it
Paden wrote:
> Hi all
> I've noticed that with multidisc MP3 files in my collection the
> DISCTOTAL tag is not shown/recognised by LMS (or foobar2000) but can be
> seen in the file properties in Windows.
> The majority of my files are FLAC & these show the tag correctly.
> I'm using Mp3tag edito
w3wilkes wrote:
> I thought the OP wanted Disc # tag for MP3 files. I believe TOTALDISCS
> is for OGG and FLAC, TPOS is for MP3.
The OP will have to chime in, but I took it that they were looking for
the total number of disks, while TPOS is usually the specific disc
number a track comes from.
Rnee wrote:
> Thanks guys!
>
> Nice to read that this topic also serves others.
>
> I am a Foobar user for a long time so that's what I used.
> On the Foobar website I found some info regarding RG, it states that one
> might use a lower preamp for classical music...
> What is the reason for do
o
fantastic compared to what I had before, so I know there is a lot of
customizability that I can't even yet imagine or understand.
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also seems that without the compilation setting, it is missing all
the track artists when I browse by artist. At this point, I am trying
to show all artists (track and album) before I determine whether I want
to try and make things more efficient. I know this is a flaw my
settings, but
ion about setting an ALBUMARTIST tag
as opposed or in addition to using the TPE2 tag. Will setting that tag
and changing the setting for TPE2 back to BAND change some of the
behavior I am seeing?
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elp here and all the great
posts elsewhere with respect to Compilations and Album Artists.
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#x27;t set the tag, the guest artist won't show up in my
artist list (unless they are already there from their own album).
This isn't a huge deal though as I am finding the search function works
well, and I will ultimately simplify my artist browsing by grouping the
t; which allows you to browse your music library in many more ways,
> including All Artists or only album artists, track artists, etc.
I really need to look into this one. It sort of sounds like the "Magic
Nodes" plugin in Me
ays shows me flaws I never noticed in my
tagging. In this case, I find that MediaMonkey while supposedly
handling multiple-genres, never really tags separate genre fields, so
I'll now have to go back through with MP3tag and separate my semi-colon
separated genre fie
written in.
This was years ago, but I imagine at the worst, that would still be
around and usable. If you are interested in it, let me know. I still
have the files, I just haven't used them in a while (haven't ripped a
DVD in a while).
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track
multiple times in burst mode (goes really fast) and make sure the files
compare (checksums).
Usually, the problem only shows up for the first track on a disk, so
once it is taken care of, I go back to the standard method of extraction
for the remainder of the disc.
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At the same time, I haven'd had a problem
with the error being discussed in 10 years either.
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Vie
about wanting the exact CD setup with its gaps
in the right places. I generally don't care as I rarely record to CD
anymore anyway.
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matically set some tags.
Anyway, you'll really want to scrutinize the tags and the differences
using something like MP3Tag and its extended tag feature to see what is
different between the odd track and the others.
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when I need to. For my compilations, I just set the Album Artist
Tag to "Various Artists" and then I can browse to Various Artists in my
album artist "Custom Browse" menu.
Anyway, this is just an off the wall idea that you might find usable.
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distinct so that if I am listening to my collection on random with a
dynamic playlist, I can set a filter to avoid that genre.
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music, but that is another issue all together.
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automatically detect
splits if there are gaps of silence. Of course, if you have live
Blu-Ray discs, that probably won't work.
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llad, etc.
All of this works well with the Custom-Scan, Custom-Browse, and Dynamic
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king on it) as setting up Custom Browse
with genre specific menus to isolate "composer specific" music (like
Classical) from my more mainstream ("pop") music.
As far as Custom Browse goes, it works well for me in both my web
interface and SP interface, and it keeps thi
tering up my Various artists and/or U2 entries
with a lot of 1 track albums.
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e my collection and see just how
the tags are being set up and see if I can somehow fix MP3Tag to do
what I want so that Squeezebox and all other music software can handle
the tags correctly.
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the meantime, I am trying to get myself back to a pre 2.46d version
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(and I did in the past), I think it is nice to at least provide an
option to get back to the way things were (a toggle maybe).
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has 2
symphonies than each symphony gets its own album title with ~4 tracks.
I do keep the original CD title in a comment field.
Google can be quite a help, too, as there are a ton of discussions
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ng step outside the box, but when
you are in the box, you need to think about how you want to look for and
listen to your music.
What I really love with the squeezebox is that it has the flexibility
to allow you to do what you want.
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if converting to mp3 is the only drag on your system.
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s will have a (disc 1), etc. tag, so
I remove that part and make sure they are all the same
etc... Sounds like a lot of work, but by using an action I've set it up
once (and tweaked it a handful of times since) to make it work in MP3Tag
everytime with one click.
The MP3Tag forums are gr
lbums (i.e. a complete discography),
outtakes, etc.
Ultimately, I try to use what works for me, and if people are finding
difficulties as previous posters have, I suggest what I chose to use
for solving the problem. There is nothing like having a lot of
perspectives since each p
r and
prefer the simplicity of browsing by album artist.
Lots of potential solutions; so it may be a bit of a bug, but at least
there is flexibility to adjust it as you see fit (with a little
effort).
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an separate myself from the
misuse of TPE2 and have a separate ALBUMARTIST tag with my ultimate
intention to actually fill in that BAND field with band members (i.e.
each band member in a jazz band, etc).
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e it's working, and perhaps mask that some albums are not
> displayed.
I agree with all of the above, especially the guesswork. Most of the
people who care enough about these things probably put the effort into
tagging their music such that
tion, but at least it is a solution.
As it is, CustomBrowse provided further features beyond what we are
talking about here (organized browsing of my Jazz and Classical,
browsing by letter, etc), so as an aside, I hope that doesn't quit
being supported.
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lumped together regardless of the Compilation tag, but then I think
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Greatest Hits, I usually add a
Greatest Hits genre just to help keep things separate as well as a Live
genre.
It's not true to the meaning of Genre, but it works (moving to FLAC,
I'm generating a custom field to separate recording types, but that's
in prgoress). Really, no one should ar
artist menu with its default behavior and find any album with AA =
Various Artists
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, I use an Optical cable on my
Duet to my receiver with no problems. My squeezebox radio can't handle
those files. I usually use a genre called Digital to keep those files
in their own places and provide a way to filter so that in everyday
use, I don't accidentally play those fi
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My biggest source of problems with multiple artist tags has been the
"artist sort" field. In some cases the automatic metadata entries have
this field set and I don't necessarily notice. It's a field I'm not
used to having and usually neglect, but it can cause
squeezebox software can't seem to handle the DISC NUMBER
tags by either ignoring them or misusing them. Eitherway, it can be a
mess.
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a
Classical DB that only shows music in the Classical Genre and with
Custom Browse only shows Composers. It's a bit of work, but helps to
break the need to follow the SqueezeBox (and general Classical)
limitations.
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Sometimes, I feel like I am spending more time organizing my media
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t I know to be too
much or redundant information in my tags (like
Artist=ArtistSort=AlbumArtist or Compilation=0 or DiscNumber=1 for all
1 disc sets). It's ridiculous, but it seems to be what I needed to get
my own library to work for 2 play
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album gain ends up being more
important to be consistent at least across a Work (occasionally they
will span discs).
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with your device. There
seem to be multiple ways to tag files and not all software will handle
all tag formats. Google some info outside these forums... Look for
photography forums for guidance. It can get overwhelming very easily,
too, so take your time to do it right once.
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actually the most flexible of any
music software I've owned. It is by no means perfect, but as you and
others have shown there are many of options for just how to deal with
multiple discs, and they all can work.
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sc... You don't
want some tracks to have DISCNUMBER = 1 and others to show DISCNUMBER =
1/1 (and other variations that can show up).
This all assumes that the Shuffle setting is not your problem.
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that would make things easier, wouldn't it only be a one time deal and
worth it? Heck, I find I have to rescan/rebuild my library every so
often anyway.
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el databases should be
as complete and flexible as possible allowing the user flexibility to go
as simple or complicated as possible. This seems like one case where
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the DISCNUMBER tags where
not needed or set them to a specific value that was consistent for a
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(at least as a test). I recall that
there can be differences with the BAND/Album artist tags in the v2.4
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And, if you are relying on Folders and your folders and file names are
organized fairly well, you can probably automatically fill tags with
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-everything and replace
> them with Vorbis comments, which is the proper tagging form for FLAC.
This one definitely needs to be done. I can't believe how the final
problem in most of my files was those ID3v1 tags. A lot of software
write both versions, yet it can be hard to see the
same. But, I suppose it is possible that the
server picks up one (the first) album gain tag much like it seems to
pick up one image when looking at the album covers.
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s settings do not
write info to files. It wants to do that for every missing field
discnumber, composer, etc, and it is very inconsistent in how it does
it. I also think it has a habit of writing ID3v1.1 tags.
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