Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 2.1.1

2013-08-28 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo

Klaus Schmidinger  kirjoitti 25.8.2013 kello 13.35:

> - Added basic support for positioners to control steerable satellite dishes 
> (based on
>  a patch from Seppo Ingalsuo and Ales Jurik).
>  + Supports GotoN (aka "DiSEqC 1.2") and GotoX (aka "USALS").
>  + The new DiSEqC command code 'P' can be used to instruct a positioner to 
> move the
>dish to the required satellite position. When a 'P' code is processed, 
> further
>execution of the remaining DiSEqC sequence (if any) is postponed until the 
> positioner
>has reached the new satellite position.
>  + The new special source value of "S360E" can be used in diseqc.conf to 
> indicate that
>an entry using a positioner can move the dish to any requested position 
> within its
>range. Think of it as "full circle".
>  + The devices a particular cDiseqc or cScr applies to are now stored 
> directly in each
>cDiseqc or cScr, respectively.
>  + A plugin can implement a custom positioner control (see PLUGINS.html, 
> section "Positioners").
>  + The new function cSkinDisplayChannel::SetPositioner() can be implemented 
> by skins to
>show the user a progress display when the dish is being moved. The default 
> implementation
>calls SetMessage() with a string indicating the new position the dish is 
> being moved to.
>The LCARS skin shows a progress bar indicating the movement of the dish.
>  + The new parameters "Site latitude", "Site longitude", "Positioner speed", 
> and
>"Positioner swing" in the "Setup/LNB" menu can be used to configure the 
> necessary
>values for a steerable dish.
>  + The cDvbTuner now has a new status tsPositioning, in which it waits until 
> a steerable
>dish has reached its target position. Parsing SI data is paused until the 
> target
>position has been reached.

Thanks Klaus! Installed 2.1.1 today and the basics at least seem to work OK 
here, no unreliability (no move => messed up channels.conf) seen in operation. 
No more vdr patching need for me!

The credits should include also Rotor plugin author (don't know his name) since 
the patch borrowed some code from there.

Cheers,
Seppo


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Re: [vdr] [PATCH] GOTOX patch for vdr-1.7.16

2011-01-28 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
pe, 2011-01-28 kello 12:44 -0700, Timothy D. Lenz kirjoitti:
> I can't try it atm because a relay went bad in my rotor. Only goes one 
> direction. But looking at the patch, you put the user location in the 
> patch, not the conf?

There is an OSD menu setting for it (Settings -> LNB). The value in the
patch is just some initial default.

Seppo



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Re: [vdr] Remote receiver options...

2011-01-25 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 09:53 +, Laz wrote:
> I've been following various threads over the past year or so exploring 
> various options for having a server-client vdr setup and it got me 
> thinking.
> 
> I'm currently using a home-brew LIRC receiver attached to a serial port 
> which works perfectly. The ION-based boards look very nice as a vdr front 
> end (using xinelibout or some yet-to-be-written plugin!) because they can 
> do hardware HD decoding. However, I suspect a lot of these lack a serial 
> port so my simple LIRC receiver would be no good.

My Asus ION motherboard has a serial heading in the motherboard. I'm
using it for home brew serial LIRC receiver.

> 
> What are others doing in this sort of situation? USB-based receiver (there 
> are a couple described at lirc.org), or do most of the ION boards still 
> have a serial header (must admit, not looked into this properly yet!)?

I used for a while a USB-BT dongle plus PS3 Blu-Ray remote with that ION
mobo. RF was pretty robust & snappy compared to IR. See
http://code.google.com/p/bdremote-ng/wiki/README

BR,
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Re: [vdr] Request for rotor/actuator support integration to, vdr

2011-01-24 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
 
On Sun, 2011-01-23 at 21:38 -0700, Timothy D. Lenz wrote:
> Fixed number would help a little, but would get anoying and be in the 
> way a lot of time. Going from one sat to the next is with in 2-3 sec's. 
> It's when you need to do a full swing you run into collecting from the 
> wrong sat.

Gotox patch (thanks to Ales for years of maintenance!) tries to estimate
the time for positioner turn by assuming a fixed degrees/second speed
and tracking the previous position. The gotox diseqc command insertion
includes the variable delay that I think is blocking vdr channel
operations for this time (hope so). 

I made this patch because the relationship of vdr diseqc core and rotor
plugin was flaky. Despite of diseqc command repetition the command
success rate was well under 100%. Without repetition it was close to
zero for me. My positioner may be picky with respect to signal timings.
It was pretty annoying when vdr updated channels from wrong position.
This patch has been reliable. The problem is that it lacks many features
of rotor plugin. OTOH I think there should be a separate channel channel
scan plugin.

Now the most annoying thing for me is that the vdr streamdev connected
2nd and 3rd instances time out when channel switch includes long enough
waiting. 

BR,
Seppo


> 
> On 1/23/2011 2:31 PM, Arturo Martinez wrote:
> >
> > :·)
> >
> > :·)
> >
> > I would also like some support for rotors in vdr, I can offer Klaus a
> > free sat dish and an old rotor if that would motivate him...
> >
> > Klaus, as a minimum in vdr core we need the ability to specify a ´lapse
> > value´ between a diseq command being sent (for non rotor users this
> > would be zero, I´d imagine) and vdr tuning to a transponder or trying to
> > add new channels.
> > So in short if this value say was set to 30 seconds, then vdr would not
> > add new channels or try to tune to a transponder. That would allow the
> > rotor to do its job (with the existing diseqc.conf
> >
> >
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Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video & audio, etc.

2010-08-18 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo

On 18.08.2010 11:13, jori.hamalai...@teliasonera.com wrote:
I also would like to remind the framerate issues. Naturally you decide 
what

is enough precision and quality for you.

Computer hardware usually cannot provide 50.000Hz, 59.940Hz or 23.976Hz
outputs to your TV/Monitor. This will cause some judder on display output
as MPEG/AVC input-stream is not synchronized to output framerate.

   
I have got "good enough" 50 Hz output to HDMI from Nvidia GS8400 DVI 
output with VDPAU. Typically there is small jump about every 10s with 
DVB SDTV content but it is visible only with graphic news scrollers. It 
is not annoying me that much. That is of course a very subjective matter.



For example dedicated blu-ray player Philips BDP3000 had a 24.000Hz output
(before firmware fix) which resulted a jumped frame every 42 seconds as
real input stream is 23.976Hz. It was annoying after you noticed it. But
luckily now it is fixed to real 23.976 output.

With this bridge we come to VGA-hardware which might have 50.01Hz closest to
50Hz signal. So every 100 frames we get a jump in picture synch. Ever seen
jumping camera panning while watching a film and got annoyed by it?
   


Yes -- I have tried VGA but my one TV has only 60 Hz VGA mode that 
produces bad juddering picture. Then my other TV does not accept full HD 
modes via VGA. I also prefer the brighter colors and perfect pixels I 
get over HDMI.  Subjective things again ...

For ATI cards there is a dynamic framerate fix, unfortunately there is not
one
for Nvidia cards. Nvidia has good HW acceleration but potentially bad
output.
With ATI vice versa.

This ATI fix fixes 50.01 by dynamically reprogramming VGA timers so real
output
is 50.000Hz. (General description, the author can describe more if needed).
   
I tried two years ago a motherboard with integrated AMD graphics with 
HDMI but bought soon the cheap NVidia GS8400 card because of problems: 
poor stability/wife acceptance factor,  tearing, blurry scaling etc. I 
am still using AMD stuff at work for desktop usage so I have seen the 
improvement in the open source drivers but I still feel I get better 
value for the money with NVidia stuff.

So if you aim to HD with full HD quality I'd be carefull with computer
outputs.
My answer was to setup Popcorn hour to output 50.000Hz with TV-stuff.
Unfortunately
you lose some easy-of-use with VDR as you need to have separate layer to set
up etc.
   
I have also a PS3 and tweaked Mediatomb to serve the VDR recordings and 
some live TV channels over UPnP. It is slightly better with 576i50 -> 
1080p50 conversion than my HTPC but the difference is quite small. I 
guess that is "perfect" and comparable to the picture you get with 
Popcorn Hour.


The usability with PS3 is poor for Live TV because the channels are made 
to look like recordings and there is no p+ / p- channel surfing. The 
hack is not supporting DVB subtitles and sometimes I hear a non-prefferd 
sound track (the speech synth on the Dutch track). My family has learnt 
to use the hack while the HTPC is out of order but it is far from ideal 
solution. The fatty PS3 is also a bit noisy and consumes more power than 
a typical HTPC. I suppose the usability issues are not a problem with 
Popcorn if there is VDR usage dedicated firmware available?



Also as original question came from Finland and if you use commercial HD
channels
they are (or at least should be) paired to your receiver.
   


I see only some HD from DVB-S/S2.  Fortunately the kids channels that I 
subscribe do not require the pairing


Cheers,
Seppo


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Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video & audio, etc.

2010-08-18 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo

On 18.08.2010 00:36, Paul Menzel wrote:

What driver did you use?


I used the ppa:gma500/ppa repository as described in 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo for 
Ubuntu Lucid.


There is lot of green in the table the real situation for this driver is 
not as excellent/good. Or if it is "good" then as comparison Nvidia 
binary driver quality is superior and high above the scale... I have had 
problems with Nvidia drivers but they have been solved/mitigated to 
usable level. Even if closed binary drivers are generally bad there are 
poor and usable examples.



Anyway, »besides Intel Poulsbo« meant this chip is using closed drivers
and is not supported by xf86-video-intel and so it does not fit into my
wish list.
   
I fully agree. If I knew this Intel chipset had only closed binary 
drivers I would have bought my kids another netbook. I bet there will be 
problems with new X.org and next Ubuntu problems.



BR,
Seppo


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Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video & audio, etc.

2010-08-17 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 13:39 +0300, Niko Mikkilä wrote:
> Yes, as VDR User said, the latest generation VP4/VDPAU feature set C
> cards (GeForce 210, GT 220, ...) have an integrated audio controller.
> The ALSA driver should support 7.1 channel PCM too.
> 

I found that someone has had success with such cards

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=143610&page=4


> IMO the only reason to go for a separate card over ION would be higher
> quality 1080i deinterlacing. You'll need GT 220 for that since GeForce
> 210 is only slightly faster than ION. They have the same video processor
> and therefore the same video decoding capabilities, but post-processing
> is done on the graphics cores.

Good point. I think 1080i is rare content for me. If ION is as good as a
GT220 with 576i, 720p and 1080p then it could be very suitable for my
needs.

> 
> 
> > It seems that the IONs are VP3/B so your prosal is certainly better (if
> > there is HDMI audio support).
> 
> ION2 has VP4/C, I think.
> 
> If you don't need advanced 1080i deinterlacing, Asus AT5IONT-I is a very
> good option right now. It has ION2, latest dualcore Atom and USB3, and
> it's passively cooled.

It's an interesting new board but I wonder if there's some risk for
problems. I tried to search but I could not find reports about success
with Ubuntu or Linux generally. Do Nvidia's binary graphics drivers
support ION2?

BR,
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Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video & audio, etc.

2010-08-17 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 13:56 +0300, Rene wrote:

> I'm also starting to check for a new setup, and i'm on the same line as
> you: Silent, low-power device that will runn 24/7. I have not yet looked
> too much around, but there is one thing i'm wondering. What kind of
> dvb-devices will you use? 

I use the multiple vdr instance hack proposed in xineliboutput
documentation. My 2xDVB-T(dual tuners) and DVB-S2 cards are PCI and they
are in a separate "home server" that runs in non-living areas of the
house so noise doesn't matter. There are also several hard disks. 

I don't know what happens if that mobo dies. It could be difficult to
find motherboards with enough legacy PCI slots. I need four because
there's also one extra network card.

> My current setup has two pci-cards, Full
> featured Technoternd dvb-s, and an other TT budget dvb-t. I have to
> replace the dvb-t card with dvb-c, because i will soon move to an area
> with cable-tv.. Is it possible to go with completely dvb-usb devices?
> Are thet reliable enough to not freeze/crash etc?

At least for dish I need PCI type of card because USB cards do not
output enough power for a motorized positioner.

BR,
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Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video & audio, etc.

2010-08-17 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo

> 
> is there really no recommendation for a board not using Nvidia graphics
> components? It would really be great to not depend on proprietary
> drivers.
> 
> The VIA chipset VX855 was supposed to have support 1080p support build
> in. But those devices do not seem to be available in non Asian regions.
> 
> AMD/ATI or Intel should also over some products fitting your need. And I
> heard the drivers matured quite a bit (besides Intel Poulsbo).
> 
> Unfortunately I do not own such systems.

I installed vdr-sxfe to Poulsbo/GMA500 netbook but there is no Xv and VA API is 
not supported by xine-lib. There is mplayer support but I don't know if 
deintelacing is good. I haven't tried.
An unscaled window works but fullscreen is horrible. The real Intel graphics 
stuff is likely better but I have no experience about that. 

Seppo
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Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video & audio, etc.

2010-08-16 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Thanks VDR User,

On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 14:01 -0700, VDR User wrote:
> Why not get one of the Zotac IONITX boards and stick it in the M350
> case like I did?

I'm not familiar with Zotac but I could try it instead my usual of Asus
mobos (the one that died was an Asus too). Zotac seems to be sold here
Finland too. 

I'm planning to use the old Silverstone case and the old working silent
high-effciency Enermax ATX power supply. That would rule out at least
Asus ION deluxe style boards that seem to have an external PSU and just
a DC connector in the mobo. I don't want to get external power boxes to
living room and would feel sorry to throw away working stuff ;^)

When considering other tips too it's going to be tough to decide what
path to take here: budget/minimal vs. more power and possibly better
visual quality etc. :^)

>   Fanless, low power, and OS can be installed on SSD,
> usb flash stick, Microdrive, SD(HC), CF, you name it.  They all have
> usb adapters so that way your system will remain totally silent.

True, my old IDE HDD is not compatible with new boards, so some flash
based storage would be nice.

BR,
Seppo


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Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video & audio, etc.

2010-08-16 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Hi, Thanks Goga777,

On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 00:35 +0400, Goga777 wrote:

> I recommend you to use PCI-E GT220 Geforce card with motheboard which you 
> will choice

Asus Bravo 220 silent seems to be a passive model. Do you know if these
non-motherboard integrated cards support 7.1ch PCM audio over HDMI?

I got as PM one tip that pointed to this page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_PureVideo#Table_of_PureVideo_.28HD.29_GPUs

I wonder if some smaller number cheaper model with similar VP4/C skills
would do? E.g. Asus EN210 Silent? It could also produce less heat? The
text in Wikipedia is not perfectly in line with the table so I wonder if
GT2xx is needed for best VDPAU support.

It seems that the IONs are VP3/B so your prosal is certainly better (if
there is HDMI audio support).

> 
> this series has very good performance for 1080i temporal_spatial 
> deinterlacing and h264 decoding
> 
> have a look on qvdpautest
> http://linuxdvb.org.ru/wbb/index.php?page=Thread&postID=16142#post16142
> 

Fortunately there's google translate - so there's some worry about
passive cooled GT220s? At least the picture of Gigabyte GT220 shows a
pretty large heatsink and fan ;^)

BR,
Seppo


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[vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video & audio, etc.

2010-08-15 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo

Hi,

My old HTPC motherboard died and I'm now looking for a new one to become 
a vdr-sxfe "thin" client. The old Silverstone case is for normal ATX 
board but I no more need PCI slots so a smaller one, even a Mini-ITX 
would do. Since the PC runs 24/7 I'm interested in low-power 
motherboards with Atom CPU. There should be VDPAU support for MPEG-2 
SDTV decoding + high-quality de-interlacing. I'm watching also sometimes 
H.264 HDTV channels from satellite. There should be 1080p50 video + up 
7.1ch multi-channel PCM audio over HDMI. I'd like to get rid of SPDIF 
connection to AV-receiver.


My HTPC box has a home-brew LIRC receiver that connected to motherboard 
(Asus style) COM port heading. If COM ports are history I could change 
to Bluetooth remote control with a PS3 Blu-Ray remote. Therefore 
integrated BT support would be nice (otherwise some USB-BT dongle). WLAN 
is not mandatory since I stream from vdr server over gigabit ethernet. 
Are there still issues with some ethernet chipsets and Linux?


I found some options such as Asus AT3IONT-I DELUXE, Asus AT3IONT-I, Asus 
AT5IONT-I. I would be happy to hear experiences about these motherboards 
with Linux and Xine. Are there problems with some motherboard features? 
Other recommendations are welcome too!


Cheers,
Seppo


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Re: [vdr] Vdr 1.7.15 and vdradmin

2010-06-15 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo

On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 09:41 -0700, VDR User wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Christian Wieninger  
> wrote:
> > vdr-1.7.15 uses a new default port 6419 for SVDRP. vdradmin and epgsearch
> > must be configured to the new port.
> 
> You may also use the -p command line switch and set the port back to
> 2001 if you like.

That was it, thank you!

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[vdr] Vdr 1.7.15 and vdradmin

2010-06-15 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Hi,

Has anyone noticed problems with vdradmin-am, epgsearch and new vdr
1.7.15?

Since upgrade from vdr 1.7.14 VDRadmin web interface dones not work. Web
browser shows this error:

"Can't connect to VDR at localhost:2001

Please check if VDR is running and if VDR's svdrphosts.conf is
configured correctly."

In the vdr log I see messages "EPGSearch: error connecting to socket!".
My svdrphosts.conf is like with the previous version. Has something
changed?

Eventually I seem to loose also tuners. The log files shows e.g. "ERROR:
can't open filter handle on '/dev/dvb/adapter1/demux0'". There are
finnish messages "ERROR (svdrp.c,126): Liian monta avointa tiedostoa"
that translates to too many open files.

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Re: [vdr] Fwd: GOTOX patch for 1.7.5 -> rotor plugin

2010-02-14 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 08:47 +, Newsy Paper wrote:
> Why not using rotor plugin?
> 
> It's working ok even with 1.7.11, but there's a bug with my s2-3200. I
>  don't know if it's a HW or SW bug, but if I am on a High Band
>  transponder (22khz is active) the rotor doesn't move, so I have to
>  switch to a low band transponder first. Workround would be to disable
>  22khz in the plugin automatically then rotate und reactive it again
>  (if it has been active before). But I don't know how to implement that

This is why originally made the patch (thanks for rotor plugin author
for lot's of useful code). I got fed up to unreliable operation and
messing up of channels.conf with similar frequencies from other
positions. As an example I don't need gotox command repeat any more.
Even with gotox repeat I got large error probability.

For a vdr plugin I could not find a way to merge the operations properly
to other diseqc operations while ensuring compliance with diseqc spec.

I'd separate rotor plugin to a generic channel scan plugin, that it is
doing nicely.

Retrieve (and store position) system of elder motors should be in the
core vdr dvb-s support as well IMHO. The same timing hazard is
potentially there too unless retrieve position is handwritten to
diseqc.conf sequences.

BR,
Seppo


> 
> regards
> 
> Newspaperman
> 
> --- Bikalexander  schrieb am Fr, 5.2.2010:
> 
> > Von: Bikalexander 
> > Betreff: [vdr] Fwd:  GOTOX patch for 1.7.5
> > An: vdr@linuxtv.org
> > Datum: Freitag, 5. Februar 2010, 2:17
> > Thanks for the link, now I've finally
> > got the correct version:).
> > 
> > I am using 2 DVB cards, it can be adjusted in some way that
> > certain
> > device is being addressed?
> > 
> > 2010/2/4 Ales Jurik :
> > > On Thursday 04 of February 2010, Bikalexander wrote:
> > >> Even with last patch does not do it:
> > >>
> > > Which exactly version of patch did you use? What was
> > the output of patching?
> > > Was there any rejects? Did you try to patch vanilla
> > version of vdr? Without
> > > these basic information people could only guess what
> > happened in your vdr.
> > >
> > > For me now it works without problem (latest patch is
> > in
> > > http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/vdr/2010-January/022017.html).
> > >
> > > Ales
> > >
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Re: [vdr] xineliboutput vdpau crop

2010-01-15 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Sun, 2010-01-10 at 01:47 +0200, Mika Laitio wrote:

> Hopefully this can be merged to xineliboutput repo.

I wonder if it is there now in CVS? The subtitles are now scaled and in
proper position but sometimes in the bottom of each row there is one
pixel wide line with black and white spots. I'm using VDPAU and some HW
mode for the OSD overlay on GS8400 but not HUD OSD due to tearing
problems.

Actually I'd prefer the unscaled 576i/p subtitles size on 1080p scaled
video but on the center bottom position. The current scaled subtitles
are too big and coarse at 46". Has anyone hacked the DVB subtitles like
that?

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Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-17 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo

Luca Olivetti wrote:
If the only planned source is a pc (running vdr and, say, xmbc), would 
it make sense to bypass the av receiver completely and just decode the 
audio on the pc connected to the speakers?
Or it doesn't make sense (since you'll need an amplifier for each 
channel anyway, so you could just as well buy an av receiver)?
Good point! I suppose the benefit of going for AVR is better speakers 
management: levels, delays, response correction and subwooofer crossover 
filters. The effects are actually usable. I'm using stereo and surround 
modes from Onkyo AVR. I've been also quite happy  with Audussey setup. A 
pure PC plus amplifiers (class-D modules) could be superior to AVR in 
those tasks but I'm not aware of such developments for e.g. ALSA user 
space or PulseAudio.


Just asking, since with wife, kids, and neighbours, I'll probably have 
to convince myself that the tv speakers are good enough ;-)
The center channel is really good for any TV watching. But my wife is 
not happy without a properly programmed universal remote. A "watch VDR" 
macro does all the powering and routing.


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Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-17 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 12:28 +0200, Theunis Potgieter wrote:
> In my case, I have a Samsung T260 screen with fibre out, probably
> SPDIF. In this case the monitor would then be my limitation. Should I
> get an amp that takes hdmi as input and passes video onto the screen?

If the signal source is Blu-Ray disc then there is IMHO benefit with a
HDMI capable AV receiver (excluding the early crap those were only dumb
switches without audio tapping capability). Personally I've found the
PCM or Dolby/DTS HD tracks sound better via possibly better mix than
standard AC3 tracks. Audio coding improvement should not be that big. 

With just VDR DVB-C/T/S as a source there probably is no real advantage
to upgrade to HDMI only over legacy SPDIF from TV to AVR setup. There
could be usability improvements via CEC control channel though. And I
don't know if CEC is supported by any PC HDMI hardware. (But perhaps in
future VDR could get control from CEC from TV remote control too?)

With my AV receiver HDMI menus it's also possible to select to route the
audio to home theater or TV speakers like in your setup (with home
theater system muted) though I never use TV speakers. They are pretty
bad nowadays. 

This page might be useful

http://www.hdmi.org/installers/index.aspx

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Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-16 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 20:24 +0200, Theunis Potgieter wrote:
> 2009/11/15 Timothy D. Lenz :
> > The SPDIF can't carry 7.1 sound? It's just digital data stream. Should
> > be able to carry how ever many channels get encoded to the data packets.
> >
> Is the problem not bandwidth requirements?

For consumer SPDIF max bandwidth is about 2 x 20 x 48 kHz = 1.92
Mbit/s. 

E.g. encoded DD+ 7.1 bit stream fits there but linear 7.1 PCM doesn't.
Highest end audio formats are at different order of magnitude. Dolby
TrueHD can be up to 18 Mbit/s and DTS-HD Master Audio up to 24.5 Mbit/s
those are passed only over HDMI in CE devices.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_Digital#Dolby_Digital_Plus

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DTS_%28sound_system%29#DTS-HD_Master_Audio

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Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-15 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 12:24 +0100, Artem Makhutov wrote:

> Sorry, then I don't understand your problem. I have absolutly no 
> problems with my Zotac ION Mainboard and HDMI Audio output.

I think some motherboard integrated chipsets have had working HDMI audio
for some time, even Nvidia, PCI-E cards have not had the support. But I
wouldn't like to swap my not-that-old P5Q motherboard for this.

> I am using PCM Stereo output and when I have DD sound then I am using 
> AC3/DTS PassThrough over HDMI.

Pass-trough (even via SPDIF) is fine if the content is DD or stereo. I
suppose encoded HD audio (DTS HD or Dolby TruHD from Blu-Ray)
pass-trough is missing from many graphics cards even in Windows but
personally I wouldn't mind seeing 7.1ch PCM indicator instead in the AV
receiver like with my fat PS3.

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Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-15 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 11:48 +0100, Artem Makhutov wrote:
> You can use an .asoundrc to encode 7.1ch PCM to AC3 or DTS and use the 
> SPDIF over HDMI as output device.

Tandem coding is not healthy for audio quality if highest quality
matters and DD at handles 5.1 "only".

> I am also not aware of any SPDIF cards, that can output PCM 5.1ch or 
> 7.1ch audio without encoding audio to AC3 or DTS manually

No it's not possible because SPDIF has rather limited bandwidth. It was
designed for 48 kHz 16 (up to 20) bit stereo PCM originally.

The situation with Nvidia HDMI audio is perhaps improving, by Googling I
found this one:

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=140264

Perhaps it's soon time to search for a passive cooled G210 or GT220
card!

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Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-15 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 09:49 +0100, Luca Olivetti wrote:
> Well, considering that I cannot find a way to get audio through hdmi 
> with my laptop and I couldn't get much help on the alsa-users mailing 
> list (as couldn't another folk with the same laptop 5 months ago), I am 
> worried.

I'm waiting for a 7.1ch PCM audio over HDMI capable PCI-E graphics card.
Currently Nvidia does great job with VDPAU video but SPDIF pass-trough
limited audio is a disappointment. There is working 7.1ch PCM audio in
Linux with AMD and Intel graphics but video acceleration is not usable.

My cheap 8400GS that I bought about years ago looks still like a good
solution (plus SPDIF from mobo) :^(

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Re: [vdr] vdr-sxfe buffer empty

2009-10-06 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Tue, 2009-10-06 at 12:01 +0930, Malcolm Caldwell wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 17:33 +0300, Seppo Ingalsuo wrote:
> > Reverse patching this one (just patch view from the same link)
> > 
> > http://xineliboutput.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/xineliboutput/vdr-xineliboutput/xine_input_vdr.c?view=patch&r1=1.278&r2=1.279&sortby=date
> > 
> > seems to work for me for current CVS version.
> 
> What problem does this fix?
> 
> On my setup, things run fine for a minute or so, and then audio starts
> to break up more and more.  It finally stops for a few seconds and then
> things seem to "reset", and audio/video work fine again for a few
> minutes, until the whole process starts again.
> 
> Will reverting this fix my problem?

It helped me. I had similar problems with sound. In one my PC had to in
addition to use OSS (emulated sound by ALSA / PulseAudio).

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Re: [vdr] vdr-sxfe buffer empty

2009-09-29 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Reverse patching this one (just patch view from the same link)

http://xineliboutput.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/xineliboutput/vdr-xineliboutput/xine_input_vdr.c?view=patch&r1=1.278&r2=1.279&sortby=date

seems to work for me for current CVS version.

BR,
Seppo


On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 18:35 +0300, Seppo Ingalsuo wrote:
> Shouldn't write in hurry :^)
> 
> On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 17:18 +0300, Seppo Ingalsuo wrote:
> > On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 11:08 +0400, Goga777 wrote:
> > 
> > > please try to revert this comment
> > > http://xineliboutput.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/xineliboutput/vdr-xineliboutput/xine_input_vdr.c?r1=1.278&r2=1.279&sortby=date
> > > 
> > 
> > I was using CVS version from August 1st to avoid audio breaks. There are
> > problems so I've had interest to upgrade. 
> 
> The other problem with this otherwise pretty OK version is that vdr-sxfe
> stops occasionally to respond to Lirc and keyboard. Also zapping to any
> HDTV channel freezes vdr-sxfe but HDTV functionality is not a big
> priority for me at the moment.
> 
> I have sampled every now and then xineliboutput CVS. E.g. Aug 24th
> version has bad audio. I haven't tried to iterate where the problems
> exactly started.
> 
> > With CVS version from
> > yesterday September 27th I get these problems again.
> 
> Here I meant audio breaking problems with live TV and recordings that is
> pretty annoying.
> 
> BR,
> Seppo
> 
> > 
> > Would this proposed change help? The diff is rather large, do I need to
> > revert everything shown by this link (or just some commment somewhere)?
> > 
> > Is the change needed on server, client or both?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Seppo
> > 
> > 
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Re: [vdr] vdr-sxfe buffer empty

2009-09-28 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Shouldn't write in hurry :^)

On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 17:18 +0300, Seppo Ingalsuo wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 11:08 +0400, Goga777 wrote:
> 
> > please try to revert this comment
> > http://xineliboutput.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/xineliboutput/vdr-xineliboutput/xine_input_vdr.c?r1=1.278&r2=1.279&sortby=date
> > 
> 
> I was using CVS version from August 1st to avoid audio breaks. There are
> problems so I've had interest to upgrade. 

The other problem with this otherwise pretty OK version is that vdr-sxfe
stops occasionally to respond to Lirc and keyboard. Also zapping to any
HDTV channel freezes vdr-sxfe but HDTV functionality is not a big
priority for me at the moment.

I have sampled every now and then xineliboutput CVS. E.g. Aug 24th
version has bad audio. I haven't tried to iterate where the problems
exactly started.

> With CVS version from
> yesterday September 27th I get these problems again.

Here I meant audio breaking problems with live TV and recordings that is
pretty annoying.

BR,
Seppo

> 
> Would this proposed change help? The diff is rather large, do I need to
> revert everything shown by this link (or just some commment somewhere)?
> 
> Is the change needed on server, client or both?
> 
> Thanks,
> Seppo
> 
> 
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Re: [vdr] vdr-sxfe buffer empty

2009-09-28 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 11:08 +0400, Goga777 wrote:

> please try to revert this comment
> http://xineliboutput.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/xineliboutput/vdr-xineliboutput/xine_input_vdr.c?r1=1.278&r2=1.279&sortby=date
> 

I was using CVS version from August 1st to avoid audio breaks. There are
problems so I've had interest to upgrade. With CVS version from
yesterday September 27th I get these problems again.

Would this proposed change help? The diff is rather large, do I need to
revert everything shown by this link (or just some commment somewhere)?

Is the change needed on server, client or both?

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Re: [vdr] Replay Problems with Extension HD

2009-09-06 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Sun, 2009-09-06 at 13:21 +0300, Lauri Tischler wrote:

> I should have said 'needing X to run HD-VDR is stupid"..
> I sure wish there was a NEXUS-FF-S2 card with HDMI 1080p output,
> or similar, I dont like X and GUIs in general.
> In old Byte Magazine guy named Steve Ciarcia said "the best compiler
> is solder", still true.

You should be able to get a VDPAU capable VDR front-end running without
compiling yourself code. E.g. in Ubuntu Jaunty there is VDPAU capable
X11 driver (plus development files). Then add from some extra repository
to get xine-vdpau and vdr-sxfe. It's also easy to set up X to go up
without login or without any Gnome or KDE environment of window manager.
Just one vdr-sxfe window as full screen and there you are. I expect
other graphics chipsets are also getting there in the future like AMD
and Intel. 

I'm myself compiling from source and prefer to use other applications as
well. As an example Google Earth as 46" full-HD is stunning for couch
traveling. 

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Re: [vdr] xbmc-pvr (was - HD clients for vdr)

2009-08-30 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Sun, 2009-08-30 at 08:49 +0300, Harri Kaimio wrote: 
> Hi,
> 
> adding line
> 
> Recordings.Sort();
> 
> after
> 
> Recordings.Update( true );
> 
> in cConnectionVTP::CmdPLAY (in server/connectionVTP.c) fixes this 
> particular problem. So the problem seems to be that streamdev reloads 
> the recording list every now and then and does not sort it always.

Thanks. That makes it work for me so that correct recording is opened. 

But vdr-xbmc looks rather broken othervise related to recordings. Most
of the time with new videos I get only sound chirps without video. Old
vdr format videos seem to work better.

> 
> By looking at code there seems to be a similar problem when deleting 
> recordings which is of course even more worrying as it can lead to data 
> loss... I haven't verified this yet though (and cannot test it before my 
> kidslet me use the system again :-)

Sounds scary! 

> 
> I still don't have any idea why the subtitles are not shown correctly in 
> recordings. Also with some recordings from Yle's TV channels XBMC plays 
> the wrong soundtrack (plain VDR works OK with them)

I was able to open one recording from YLE Teema where subtitles were
shown. It was an edited recording that seems to work better (audio
chirps & no video problem).

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Re: [vdr] xbmc-pvr (was - HD clients for vdr)

2009-08-29 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 22:02 +0300, Harri Kaimio wrote:

> 
> I have the same problem with my vdr+xbmc setup. It might be a sorting 
> order problem: if I select nth recording from the list in XBMC (which is 
> in alphabetical order), vdr seems to do a depth first search in the 
> video directory tree without any sorting at all and plays the recording 
> that is in nth position in this order.

Do you have idea where the error is, is it in
streamdev/server/recplayer.c in function scan()? Or at upper level in
connectionVTP.c? While looking the code I don't get where the bug could
be.

I really wonder how xbmc can be usable for some, is the separate patch
for an old streamdev better?

> 
> Also subtitles do not work for me when watching recordings (in live TV 
> they are OK)

I haven't yet been able to randomly hit a suitable YLE recording to
check that :^)

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Re: [vdr] xbmc-pvr (was - HD clients for vdr)

2009-08-27 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 21:10 +0200, Magnus Hörlin wrote:

> Well, it seems you're right. I've read a post somewhere that 
> parentalrating was needed but it seems to work just fine without it. 

It seems to give at least nice color coding to EPG. It's not correctly
used in Finnish DVB broadcast (Mythbusters listed as sports :^) but
useful any way.

> And 
> the streamdev extensions only seem to add some messages when new 
> recordings start and that kind of things.

Oh, that sounds important. Och tack så mycket för patch, it applied
cleanly.

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Re: [vdr] xbmc-pvr (was - HD clients for vdr)

2009-08-26 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 18:00 +0200, Magnus Hörlin wrote:

> Hi, I've stripped the ext72 patch to contain just the two necessary 
> extensions streamdevext and parentalrating
>  and adapted it to vdr-1.7.9 but it should work for 1.7.8 also. Seems to 
> work here so far and it's compatible with the iptv and ttxtsubs patches.
> Now all you need to get vdr-xbmc running is:
> vdr (duh!)
> my attatched patch for vdr
> streamdevoutput plugin from cvs
> XBMC pvr-testing from svn
> (with the streamdev patch in the XBMC tree, the osdteletext plugin also 
> works)
> 
> No guarantees that it's gonna work for you though.

Thanks! I'll give it a try!

Meanwhile I ran xbmc without patched vdr 1.7.9, just cvs streamdev. The
functionality was quite okay with working channel selections, epg, list
of recordings. Recording playback didn't work. According to vdr logs
streamdev tried to start some wrong recording. 

I wonder if parental rating is really mandatory. On the other hand I
suppose it doesn't harm.

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Re: [vdr] xbmc-pvr (was - HD clients for vdr)

2009-08-24 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 09:12 +1000, Torgeir Veimo wrote:

> 
> Maybe a streamosd plugin could provide what you need.
> 

I can't find further information about that with Google. Is that an
existing project?

So, I'm not really having problem with VDR's OSD. I just want three
independent user interfaces to each HTPC/television.

Xbmc test drive status: I found the VDR recordings as well from xbmc but
unfortunately the recordings database seems to be corrupted. Selecting
something from the list brings up a random recording :^) I was just lost
with UI philopsophy that is totally different from native VDR. I suppose
XBMC's was developed by Microsoft so it can't be bad, it just takes some
time to learn ;^)

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Re: [vdr] xbmc-pvr (was - HD clients for vdr)

2009-08-23 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 09:05 -0700, VDR User wrote:

> Did you know that Klaus is giving VDR a new 24bit OSD?  High
> resolution/high color will soon be in vanilla VDR, no expensive eHD
> card or otherwise required. ;)

That's nice but my main problem with vdr is having two televisions + one
computer that can be used for TV watching too. HD UI is not the main
driver for me.

There really should be a proper server/client(s) architecture with vdr.
Possible HD UI development for vdr to be useful should be developed to
operate as IP streaming client.
 
Xbmc plus vdr as video streaming source & recorder seems to be a step
into that direction. It could become a great option for vdr in the
future.

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Re: [vdr] xbmc-pvr (was - HD clients for vdr)

2009-08-23 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 22:43 +0300, Seppo Ingalsuo wrote:

> Now xbmc connects to vdr server and gets first radio channels, then tv
> channels and then nothing happens. 

Now after PC and xbmc restart live tv works. Even DVB subtitles are
shown!

How should I access vdr recordings from xbmc? Should I somehow import
vdr directory (NFS share) to xbmc video library?

I'm also wondering when vdr channnels and particularly EPG are updated.
Is it only when xbmc is restarted? Now I don't see EPG for satellite
channels that provide only now & next or very short some hours EPG.

Othervise xbmc-vdr looks very promising with totally new high definition
UI.

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Re: [vdr] xbmc-pvr (was - HD clients for vdr)

2009-08-22 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 14:31 +0300, Seppo Ingalsuo wrote:

> recording.h:66: error: ‘const cEvent* cRecordingInfo::GetEvent() const’
> cannot be overloaded
> recording.h:63: error: with ‘const cEvent* cRecordingInfo::GetEvent()
> const’
> make: *** [channels.o] Error 1

The duplicate due to patching had to be removed from recording.h. Also
there was need to include status.h to videodir.c.

Now xbmc connects to vdr server and gets first radio channels, then tv
channels and then nothing happens. I wonder how long it needs to be
waited. Perhaps wrong/non working patches?

Xmbc without vdr seems to be fine. 

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Re: [vdr] gotoX patch & vdr 1.7.8

2009-08-22 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 17:45 +0400, Goga777 wrote:

> 
> honestly - I don't know because the dish is on the roof of my home - I don't 
> have access to it currently 

OK, that makes debugging more complicated.

> have you ideas about how can I see in the log the disecs commands from vdr to 
> dish ?

I don't know of logging but it should be with your diseqc.conf as simple
as:

tone on/off
voltage 13/18
E0
10
38
xx
wait 150 ms
G becomes
   voltage 18
   tone off
   wait 20ms
   EO
   31
   6E
   yy
   zz
   if repeated
 wait 20 ms
 E1
 31
 6E
 yy
 zz
  wait dish turn for 100 ms ... 100s (e.g.)
tone on/off
voltage 13/18

Did you have this working with some other vdr setup or set to box?

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Re: [vdr] xbmc-pvr (was - HD clients for vdr)

2009-08-22 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Hi,

Are there cleaner or later patches somewhere for vdr (1.7.8) for xmbc?
The patch vdr-1.7.4-ext68-streamdev.patch from ticket
http://xbmc.org/trac/ticket/5595

could be applied but there could be some extra that I don't need from
some VDR extensions patch.

I'm also wondering if streamdev cvs is good as such. The HISTORY file
mentions "added XBMC support by extending VTP capabilities (thanks to
Alwin Esch)".

Anyway this is what I got when compiling

g++ -march=pentium4 -O2 -Wall -Woverloaded-virtual -Wno-parentheses -c
-DUSE_STREAMDEVEXTENSION -DREMOTE_KBD -DVDR_USER=\"vdr\" -DLIRC_DEVICE=
\"/dev/lircd\" -DRCU_DEVICE=\"/dev/ttyS1\" -D_GNU_SOURCE
-D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE
-DVIDEODIR=\"/video\" -DCONFDIR=\"/video\" -DPLUGINDIR=\"./PLUGINS/lib\"
-DLOCDIR=\"/usr/local/share/locale\" -I/usr/include/freetype2
-I/usr/src/v4l-dvb/linux/include channels.c
In file included from skins.h:17,
 from osdbase.h:15,
 from player.h:14,
 from status.h:15,
 from channels.c:17:
recording.h:66: error: ‘const cEvent* cRecordingInfo::GetEvent() const’
cannot be overloaded
recording.h:63: error: with ‘const cEvent* cRecordingInfo::GetEvent()
const’
make: *** [channels.o] Error 1

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Re: [vdr] gotoX patch & vdr 1.7.8

2009-08-22 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 13:54 +0400, Goga777 wrote:

> I have this scheme  vdr with hvr4000 card  ---> rotor  >> 4x1 diseqc 
> switch ---> LNB Ku band Linear + LNB Ku
> band Circular + LNB С band Circular 
> 
> my diseqc.conf (for Ku circular) is 
> 
> S36.0E 0 V 10750 t v [E0 10 38 F4] W150 G v t
> S36.0E 9 V 10750 t v [E0 10 38 F5] W150 G v t
> S36.0E 0 H 10750 t V [E0 10 38 F6] W150 G V t
> S36.0E 9 H 10750 t V [E0 10 38 F7] W150 G V t

Does the dish turn? I wonder if the order of G and [E0 10 38 xx] switch
command matters?

Have you enabled diseqc.conf usage from vdr lnb setup menu? You could
set it to no as well to eliminate diseqc.conf for a while to just see if
the dish is moving. I suppose it should because it's not behind the
switch in your setup.

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Re: [vdr] xbmc-pvr (was - HD clients for vdr)

2009-08-20 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo

Magnus Hörlin wrote:
Of course it has limitations, it's a very young project. But it's 
progressing very fast and I think, given some time, that I will 
eventually abandon xinelib. At the moment I just press a button on my 
remote to switch between xbmc and vdr-sxfe so I can have the best of 
both worlds.

Can a single vdr server have multiple independent xbmc clients?

BR,
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Re: [vdr] HD output - your current favourites

2009-08-14 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo

Luca Olivetti wrote:


Again, I cannot tell about hdmi (though I think I'd get similar 
results), but on my laptop screen sd content is upscaled acceptably by 
xine-vdpau (the scaling and deinterlacing is done in hardware with 
vdpau). Horizontally scrolling text is not very good IMO.

Is the laptop LCD refreshed at 60 Hz?

I never got smooth TV motion on a 20" Viewsonic computer monitor. It 
supports all refresh rates up to 75 Hz but the visual output looked 
always the same as in 60 Hz mode. Televisions have native 50 Hz support 
so the result is better. I have now a full-HD TV as 32" computer monitor 
/ bedroom TV.


BR,
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Re: [vdr] Subtitling descriptor in ts recordings

2009-08-03 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo

Mikko Tuumanen wrote:

Hello.

VLC 1.0 doesn't even try to show subtitles from ts recordings, because
vdr sets subtitling type to zero in remux.c
Could it be also the reason another vdr instance that is sharing the 
recording directory is not able to show subtitles of recordings made 
with other vdr? Or it is just me and it is working for others?


(I didn't yet try the patch)

BR,
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Re: [vdr] vdr-sxfe cvs version segfault with vdr 1.7.8

2009-07-25 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Seppo Ingalsuo wrote:
>
> In my system CVS versions from July 22 to 23 hang up when a VDR 
> recording is skipped or seeked forward or backward. 
CVS version downloaded today works. Thanks!


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Re: [vdr] vdr-sxfe cvs version segfault with vdr 1.7.8

2009-07-24 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Petri Hintukainen wrote:
> This should be fixed in CVS now.
In my system CVS versions from July 22 to 23 hang up when a VDR 
recording is skipped or seeked forward or backward. LIve TV works. CVS 
version from July 18 works for me. I'm using VDPAU with up-to-date 
Ubuntu Jaunty.

The stuck UI can be recovered by double clicking mouse for full screen 
vs. window mode but not via LIRC remote.

Best Regards,
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Re: [vdr] bitstreamout plugin for vdr 1.7.8

2009-07-22 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Goga777 wrote:
> I can listen mono and stereo audio through spdif and can't listen anything if 
> I switch on DD audio tarck
>
>   
Does DD pass-trough work with mplayer?


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Re: [vdr] bitstreamout plugin for vdr 1.7.8

2009-07-20 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Goga777 wrote:
> is it need to use bitstreamout plugin
> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/bitstreamout/vdr-bitstreamout-0.89b.tar.bz2?use_mirror=sunet
>
> for vdr 178 and vdr-xine 093 ?
>   
Xine-lib handles encoded formats such as AC3 and DTS over  S/PDIF. No 
vdr plugins are required. Try to  set up  AC3 audio from DVD first with 
gxine or other xine  UI player. There is a pass-trough option somewhere.

BR,
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Re: [vdr] yaepghd-plugin

2009-07-09 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Jouni Karvo wrote:
>
> ... now I just need to find a way to open the recording dialog in
> yaepghd.  This one is not trivial.
>
>   
That seems to be still the problem in the current git version. It's not 
usable as replacement for vanilla vdr's epg.

BR,
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[vdr] Subtitles problem with shared vdr recordings

2009-07-07 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Hi,

I have a multi-user setup as described in 
http://phivdr.dyndns.org/vdr/vdr-xineliboutput/

With vdr 1.7.x the DVB subtitles work only in the main vdr. In secondary 
vdr instances they are missing from streamed live TV and from 
recordings. The lack of  streamed subtitles with development sofware is 
quite obvious because of large changes in the system.

But why aren't subtitles working in the recordings. Isn't everything 
required to decode the subtitles included into ?.ts, index, and info 
files?

BR,
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Re: [vdr] ExtensionHD and VDR 1.7.6

2009-05-30 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> Nice.
> How's the deinterlacing quality? 
>   
The 576i movement is smoother (not frame rate but the lowpass effect) 
than with GreedyH/GreedyL deinterlacers I  used with software decoding. 
Greedy deinterlacers did show show jaggies sometimes so I'd say it's 
generally better.  My viewing size for VDPAU are 46" and 32". Projector 
users may prefer a sharper picture perhaps? I haven't tried 1080i stuff 
so I can't comment that.

The only problem with deinterlacing is that paused picture in vdr 
sometimes looks like not deinterlaced. There could be comb effect in 
entire screen or perhaps just one line.

My graphics cards are GS8400. I wonder if there are different 
deinterlacers around in different nvidia generations?

BR,
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Re: [vdr] ExtensionHD and VDR 1.7.6

2009-05-29 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> So you have 576i 50Hz interlaced video playing at 50fps de-interlaced? 
>   
Yes, the output is 1080p50.

Seppo


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Re: [vdr] ExtensionHD and VDR 1.7.6

2009-05-28 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Luca Olivetti kirjoitti:
> OTOH with my setup it works poorly (artifacts, banding, freezing, 
> changes in color, etc.) and I'm not the only one, so I'm not sure vdpau 
> support is mature enough for inclusion in xine-lib.
>   
Here VDPAU works close to perfectly with two different (Intel E8200, AMD 
4850E + GeForce 8400) Ubuntu Jaunty boxes with included restricted 
Nvidia driver and self compiled VDPAU enabled xine-lib.

I had picture tearing that was solved by disabling composite extension. 
I lost possibility for HUD OSD for now. I needed to force also 50 Hz 
video mode to HDMI with custom xorg.conf modeline. Somehow probably due 
to extremely low CPU load VDPAU also solved breaking SPDIF sound that I 
had on my Asus P5Q motherboard (with similar setup the AMD780G mobo 
never had sound problems). 576i video scaling and de-interlacing is good 
quality in VDPAU.

There are not many FTA HDTV channels but SDTV on Finnish DVB-T and 
European DVB-S works great!

Cheers,
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Re: [vdr] How to change channels.conf externally into a running vdr?

2009-05-27 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
No problem :^)

I did use epgsync plugin some years ago but improvements in streamdev 
made it not necessary for me.

Seppo


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Re: [vdr] How to change channels.conf externally into a running vdr?

2009-05-27 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Gerald Dachs wrote:
>> I'm now killing my secondary vdr instances while the channels are copied
>> by a cron job every night. It would be more practical for remote
>> vdr-sxfe clients to keep vdr processes running to avoid loosing the
>> streaming connection. Is it possible to signal somehow vdr to reread
>> it's entire channels.conf when it has been changed externally? By SVDRP?
>> 
>
> It sounds as if you are looking for the epgsync plugin. 
I do get EPG trough streamdev but some other things are broken
> You can find it
> here http://vdr.schmirler.de/.
>   
It says "Imports the EPG of an other VDR. It is implemented as a 
separate thread and you can select either a quick but resource consuming 
or a slow operation mode. The later allows you to share the SVDRP 
connection with other local plugins, so you can e.g. still use the 
remoteosd plugin while syncing.

Since epgsync-0.0.3 it is possible to limit the import to a specific 
channel type (DVB-C/S/T, analog) and to lookup channels by name instead 
of ID. You could e.g. copy the EPG of DVB channels to their analog 
counterparts."

Does it synchronize channels too?

BR,
Seppo

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[vdr] How to change channels.conf externally into a running vdr?

2009-05-26 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Hi,

In a setup with multiple vdr instances sharing the same dvb tuners it's 
practical to keep one as a master that upgrades channels.conf 
automatically and the other instances get periodically a new copy of the 
channels configuration. That allows manual editing of channels in the 
master vdr and running plugins like autosort there.

I'm now killing my secondary vdr instances while the channels are copied 
by a cron job every night. It would be more practical for remote 
vdr-sxfe clients to keep vdr processes running to avoid loosing the 
streaming connection. Is it possible to signal somehow vdr to reread 
it's entire channels.conf when it has been changed externally? By SVDRP?

Seppo

PS. It would be nice if multiple displays with shared server related 
architecture improvements were on Klaus'  hidden roadmap  ;^) At the 
moment when running several vdrs there is a mess with channels 
synchronization, live tv pausing, live & recording dvb subtitles, 
generally problems due to pay-tv watching (CAID as zero) by preventing 
allowing pid updates on secondary clients, etc.


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Re: [vdr] Best practices for running vdr-xine

2009-05-05 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Lauri Tischler wrote:
> Some info about EDID
> www.quantumdata.com/pdf/EDID.pps

The information looks useful, thanks!
> Phoenix EDID Designer 1.3
> http://www.tucows.com/preview/329441#MoreInfo
>   
After figuring out the right hex format I tried it but I think it 
operates only with the standard DVI EDID not the CEA extension. Based on 
my partial hand decoding I think the stuff I need to edit is in the CEA 
extension. Or by intentionally loosing some features such as HDMI audio 
that I may use in the future I could of course make a 720p50 basic EDID 
block from scratch with this tool.

BR,
Seppo

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Re: [vdr] Best practices for running vdr-xine

2009-05-05 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Artem Makhutov wrote:
> I am not sure about this. Have you tried to force a differnet resolution with 
> a modline?
>   
I'm doing that at the moment but I lost the feature of making slightly 
underscanned desktop to compensate the overscan of this old HD Ready TV. 
I'm able to get a smaller resolution but it's shifted towards upper left 
corner and I'm not sure if vertical and horizontal shift is possible 
without loosing sync. Xvidtune refused to alter the mode parameters.

With an old nvidia driver that scaled to closest back-end resolution 
(visible in nvidia-settings utility) in EDID I could this way make a 
centered non-scaled underscanned desktop that fitted about exactly the 
1366x768 display. But now this scaling happens compared to EDID 
resolution that is reported as native (1080i60 I think) and the trick 
doesn't work. The result is a stamp sized flickering picture :^(

Nvidia didn't respond at their forum.

BR,
Seppo

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Re: [vdr] Best practices for running vdr-xine

2009-05-04 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Off-topic question:

Are there any (free) EDID binary data editors available that are able to 
edit the CEA block 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDID#Extension_Block_Details ?

I'd like to disable 1080i modes from my EDID via CustomEDID option to 
avoid Nvidia drivers to use them as back-end resolution for scaling all 
modes on my HD-Ready LCD TV. 720p modes give best visual result but 
latest Nvidia driver's artificial intelligence decides that 1080i is 
best for me :^(

I'm too lazy to decode, encode and compute checksum for the block by 
hand :^)

BR,
Seppo

Artem Makhutov wrote:
> Adding the "CustomEDID" "DFP-0:/etc/X11/LG-edid.bin" option solved everything 
> for me.
> Now the X-Server starts with the native LCD-TV resolution, even when the TV 
> is turned off.
>
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Re: [vdr] Best practices for running vdr-xine

2009-05-02 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
scott wrote:
>
> How did you get the smooth scrolling, mine is jerky?  
With latest nvidia drivers I had to disable EDID entirely to avoid 
getting always 1080p60 backend resolution for all modes. Here's my 
xorg.conf suitable for a full-HD Sony. Some smarter ways to do this 
would be nice.

With my HTPC without AV receiver where I listen sound from TV speakers I 
disabled EDID because there seems to be HDMI audio support in my GS8400 
card but no way to feed audio from ALSA there! Sonys select HDMI audio 
if it is present as even as zero stream.

The benefit with this is that TV does not need to be powered when X 
comes up to get a valid display mode.

---

# xorg.conf (X.Org X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
#   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "Device"
Identifier"Configured Video Device"
Driver "nvidia"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier"Configured Monitor"
DisplaySize 480270
ModeLine "1920x1080p50" 148.50 1920 2448 2492 2640 1080 1084 1089 
1125 +HSync +VSync
ModeLine "1920x1080p60" 148.50 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 
1125 +HSync +VSync
ModeLine "1920x1080p24"  74.16 1920 2558 2602 2750 1080 1084 1089 
1125 +HSync +VSync
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier"Default Screen"
Monitor"Configured Monitor"
Device"Configured Video Device"
DefaultDepth24
Option "ExactModeTimingsDVI" "True"
Option "UseEdid" "FALSE"
Option "ModeValidation" "AllowNon60HzDFPModes, NoEdidModes, 
NoEdidDFPMaxSizeCheck, NoVertRefreshCheck, NoHorizSyncCheck, 
NoMaxSizeCheck, NoDFPNativeResolutionCheck"
Option "UseEvents" "True"
SubSection "Display"
  Depth  24
  Modes "1920x1080p50" "1920x1080p60" "1920x1080p24"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection


---

BR,
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Re: [vdr] Best practices for running vdr-xine

2009-04-29 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Jan Ekholm wrote:
>
> So xineliboutput can't be what budget card people use, so I guess it's time 
> to 
> test vdr-xine. My initial gut feeling is that VDR isn't meant for X11 output 
> at all, and it just happens to be possible to kludge it somehow. 
>
>   
Bad luck? Obsolete xine libraries? I'm running three vdr-sxfe clients at 
home with nice 50 Hz progressive 720p/1080p output to DVI with close to 
perfect vertical blanking sync (or in other words the horizontal text 
scrolls are smooth and sharp). I didn't get that working with on-board 
AMD780G graphics in my newest PC but a cheapo Nvidia card fixed that. 
Now I'm looking forward to eventually switch to VDPAU.

BR,
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Re: [vdr] rotor plugin, anybody got it working with vdr 1.7.5?

2009-04-24 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Hi,

Does your positioner support gotox? See the patches for vdr 1.6.0 and 
1.7.0 maintained by Ales J. Works for me with fine with vdr 1.7.5. There 
no patch rejects.

http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/vdr/2008-September/017637.html

Vdr rotor plugin stopped working for me reliably enough with multiproto drivers 
and probably the same issues are in s2api as well. There were timing hazards 
that violated the diseqc spec. This patch is based on Rotor plugin's internals 
patched into vdr's diseqc core.

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Re: [vdr] vdr 1.7.4 & xineliboutput

2009-03-09 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo

Does streamdev work with vdr 1.7.4? It's needed to make multiple vdr and 
vdr-sxfe instances that share the save DVB tuners.

BR,
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Re: [vdr] 1:1 pixel mapping - a waste of time?

2009-01-06 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Jukka Vaisanen wrote:
> HDMI uses DVI signalling for the video (and audio is hidden in a
> vertical blanking time slot believe it or not) so it may seem like just
> another connector.. however in their finite wisdom the HDMI
> standardization people decided that HDMI will not support arbitrary
> resolutions, but instead only the existing (and back then, planned)
> broadcast resolutions:
>   
HDMI interface does not limit the resolutions (TMDS link max. speed of 
course does but is another matter). It's mostly the "HD Ready" and "Full 
HD" television implementations that support only CEA-861-D modes for 
HDTV. Nothing would prevent HDTVs to introduce other modes in EDID and 
EDID extension blocks similarly as DVI computer monitors do. Though the 
timings would need be defined in such way that there is space for audio.

Fortunately full HD televisions typically support 1:1 pixels over HDMI 
so the limited amount of modes is not that bad. GFX cards will scale 
other resolutions such as 800x600 and 1024x768 VESA modes into the 
native panel resolution.

My 2c: I'm watching also a HD ready television from 2005 and despite of 
2x scaling the difference with DVB PAL content is minimal to my other 
full HD television with only one scaling operation. The quality of the 
SDTV DVB-T/S content is IMHO the bottleneck instead of video scalers. 
Also non 1:1 pixels Gnome desktop is usable. Of course 1 pixel wide too 
small fonts must be avoided.

BR,
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Re: [vdr] VDR with S2API (update)

2008-12-15 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Frank Schmirler wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:52:52 +0200, Seppo Ingalsuo wrote
>   
>> - The biggest annoyance: Possible to pause live TV only in vdr #1
>> 
>
> Have you tried with the VDR patch from remotetimers-0.1.0? I never took the
> time to test it with timersync-plugin, but I'd be interested to see if instant
> recordings and pause live TV works with it, too.
>   
I didn't know about the patch. It would be nice to get pause to work!

I wonder if it solves the problems when the channels are not perfectly 
in sync? I have a manually sorted DVB-T channels section but my autosort 
handled huge amount of DVB-S channels are usually bit different in vdr 
instances due to frequent updates. I think timersync works only when the 
channel numbers match.

Seppo

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Re: [vdr] VDR with S2API (update)

2008-12-13 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Clemens Kirchgatterer wrote:
>
> vdr in a massive client server configuration is a giant hack with many
> pieces each with its own little problems summing up.
>   

Not giant system, but some experiences: I have one server running three 
instances of vdr. Vdr #2 and #3 are connected by streamdev to vdr #1 
that owns dvb hardware. Timersync plugin syncronizes timers to vdr #1. 
Three client PCs run just vdr-sxfe as explained in xinelibout's README file.

Pros
- Easy to maintain

Cons
- Recordings are only loosely synchronized trough a script that touches 
.update file when recording is started.
- Deletion synchronization is not solved.
- Channels are synchronized loosely by cron job only every night when 
clients #2 and #3 can be killed "safely"
- The biggest annoyance: Possible to pause live TV only in vdr #1

I would be really happy to see improvement in vdr client-server 
architecture. AFAIK Mythtv does this nicely. I just have been too lazy 
to set up a totally new system while the current one is actively used.

BR,
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Re: [vdr] vdr + gotoXX (USALS) (was - HVR4000)

2008-09-13 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Ales Jurik wrote:
> So, the goal of this patch is possible to read at 
> http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/vdr/2008-March/016164.html.
>
> The diseqc.conf should be like Seppo wrote in his file 
> http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/vdr/attachments/20080315/ae33847e/attachment-0001.txt.
>
>   
@Klaus:  Could you please consider including this core DiSEqC/USALS 
feature to vdr 1.7.x development.

Best Regards,
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Re: [vdr] OT: Finnish Yle HD olympics channel..

2008-08-12 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Lauri Tischler wrote:
> Hi. What card are you using to get DVB-S2 ?
>   
Technotrend S2-3200.
> CPU power ? Dual-core ? GHz ?
>   
Intel E8200 is a low power dual core 2.66GHz chip. On arte HD (720p50) 
the load for vdr-sxfe (vdr server on other PC) is about 50%.
> I have now AMD X2 4600 and DVB-T YLE HD is a bit jerky, sometimes,
> playing recordings from YLE HD is totally jerky.
> Wondering if getting quad-core 2.6GHz would help any.
>   
Quad core could be good for 1080i stuff based on my 1st experiences ... 
My dual core handles 1080p24 trailers but I suppose not the better 1080p 
formats (and the 1080i case without going for low end deinterlacer such 
as bob).

BR,
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Re: [vdr] OT: Finnish Yle HD olympics channel..

2008-08-12 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
>
> Actually interlaced video kinda makes sense for sports and other live
> video.. you get 50 fields per second, so the movement is smooth..  
>   
720p50 or even 720p60 would give superior motion with in practise better 
vertical resolution than 1080i. It would better to let the video encoder 
lose data in a controlled way than rudely alternating between two 540 
line fields with interlaced video. Also now when carbon footprint 
matters it's insane to double every set top box / HDTV power consumption 
at recipient side for doing magical motion vectors based tricks in 
trying to restore the 1080 line image.
> If you look at interlaced video on a progressive display, then you need to do 
> pretty
> heavy deinterlacing, preferrably using "full motion" methods to get 50 or
> 100 fps output.. takes a lot of CPU. Check http://www.100fps.com
>
> Where did you get that stream from btw? 
>   
Recorded from Anixe HD yesterday.
> Digita is broadcasting this channel as 720p in DVB-T.. dunno if it's 25 fps 
> or 50 fps.. 
> Hopefully not 25 fps..  
>
> In what format is that Arte HD? 
>   

At the moment

VIDEO:  [H264]  1280x720  0bpp  50.000 fps0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s)
==
Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
Selected video codec: [ffh264] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg H.264)
==
==
Opening audio decoder: [mp3lib] MPEG layer-2, layer-3
AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 256.0 kbit/16.67% (ratio: 32000->192000)
Selected audio codec: [mp3] afm: mp3lib (mp3lib MPEG layer-2, layer-3)
==
AO: [oss] 48000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)

But that was an old B/W film so not real HD content.

BR,
Seppo

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Re: [vdr] OT: Finnish Yle HD olympics channel..

2008-08-12 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> Maybe try with recent mplayer (from svn).. and give it 
> "-demuxer lavf -lavdopts fast:threads=2 -no-correct-pts" or something 
> similar..
> you can also try with threads=4 etc.. 
>   
"mplayer -demuxer lavf -lavdopts fast:threads=4 -nocorrect-pts ..." 
gives steady but slow motion (roughly 50% speed) video. It is weird that 
the load on CPU1 and CPU2 is less than 40% during playback according to 
gnome system monitor. Somehow mplayer is not able to max both CPUs close 
to 100%.

With mplayer I noticed that the video is 1080i -- it is silly to 
broadcast interlaced crap. That probably explains why vdr xinelibout 
choked due to greedy de-interlacer that is pretty power consuming for 
1080i. Other channels such as Arte HD (arte 
HD;ZDFvision:11362:hC23M5O0S1:S19.2E:22000:6210:6221=deu,6222=fra:6230:0:11120:1:1011:0)
 
work OK.

BR,
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Re: [vdr] OT: Finnish Yle HD olympics channel..

2008-08-11 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> Unfortunately I don't have Elisa/Saunalahti ADSL.. :(
>   
In DVB-S2 19.2E FTA channel Anixe HD there seems to be some olympics 
going on.

ANIXE 
HD;BetaDigital:11915:hC910M2O0S1:S19.2E:27500:1535:1539=deu:0:0:132:0:0:0

> So, if someone is able to record/dump that stream, please do so :)
>   
I just recorded some horse riding to try with various xine lib versions. 
Send me pm if you'd like to get a clip.

My first try on Ubuntu 8.04 produced

"[h264 @ 0x7faf7a9c7330]PAFF interlacing is not implemented
gxine has suffered a fatal internal error."

Xine-lib 1.2 from mercurial decodes it now but the playback is very 
jerky on Intel E8200 CPU. The result is not much better than on my other 
old AMD Sempron 3100+ based HTPC.

BR,
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Re: [vdr] Multiproto compile fails again

2008-08-10 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Lauri Tischler wrote:
> Thanks, that cured that problem, up pops next problem
> ---
>CC [M]  /usr/src/multiproto/v4l/ivtv-i2c.o
> /usr/src/multiproto/v4l/ivtv-i2c.c: In function 'ivtv_i2c_register':
> /usr/src/multiproto/v4l/ivtv-i2c.c:171: error: 'struct i2c_board_info'
> has no member named 'driver_name'
> make[3]: *** [/usr/src/multiproto/v4l/ivtv-i2c.o] Error 1
> make[2]: *** [_module_/usr/src/multiproto/v4l] Error 2
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686'
> make[1]: *** [default] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/multiproto/v4l'
> make: *** [all] Error 2
> lassehome:/usr/src/multiproto#
>   
I think I just removed the offending code line... :^) I'dont need it 
since I use only TT budget DVB cards.

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Re: [vdr] Multiproto compile fails again

2008-08-10 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Hi,

Lauri Tischler wrote:
> /usr/src/multiproto/v4l/cx25840-core.c:71: error: conflicting type
> qualifiers for 'addr_data'
> /usr/src/multiproto/v4l/../linux/include/media/v4l2-i2c-drv-legacy.h:41:
> error: previous declaration of 'addr_data' was here
>   
Please try this found from linux-dvb ml:

---

Now I found a little patch which brought me over this compile error: 
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.24-rc4/2.6.24-rc4-mm1/broken-out/fix-jdelvare-i2c-i2c-constify-client-address-data.patch
 
From: Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
drivers/media/video/tvaudio.c:147: error: conflicting type qualifiers 
for 'addr_data' include/media/v4l2-i2c-drv-legacy.h:37: error: previous 
declaration of 'addr_data' was here Cc: Jean Delvare 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- include/media/v4l2-i2c-drv-legacy.h | 2 
+- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff -puN 
include/media/v4l2-i2c-drv-legacy.h~fix-jdelvare-i2c-i2c-constify-client-address-data
 
include/media/v4l2-i2c-drv-legacy.h --- 
a/include/media/v4l2-i2c-drv-legacy.h~fix-jdelvare-i2c-i2c-constify-client-address-data
 
+++ a/include/media/v4l2-i2c-drv-legacy.h @@ -34,7 +34,7 @@ struct 
v4l2_i2c_driver_data { }; static struct v4l2_i2c_driver_data 
v4l2_i2c_data; -static struct i2c_client_address_data addr_data; +static 
const struct i2c_client_address_data addr_data; static struct i2c_driver 
v4l2_i2c_driver_legacy; static char v4l2_i2c_drv_name_legacy[32]; Now 
I'm a step further. Thanks Philipp
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Re: [vdr] Rotor patches

2008-04-18 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
My patch that patches Rotor plugin's gotox/usals functionality into 
vdr's DiSEqC system is here. The motivation for this work is 
unreliability of Rotor plugin that I experienced with multiproto driver 
for TT-budget S2-3200.

http://linuxtv.org/pipermail/vdr/2008-March/016164.html

Cheers,
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Re: [vdr] VDR as a set top box

2008-04-06 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo

Here is something about my HTPC setup, hopefully  gives  some help or 
food for thought to set up your system

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> To go back to the subject, gdm and kdm allow you to autologon an
> user. The next step would be to run vdr from .xsession for ex.
>   
For gdm, add these lines to gdm.conf to login vdr automatically

AutomaticLoginEnable=true
AutomaticLogin=vdr

I'm using vdr (sxfe frontend from xinelibout plugin, xine plugin can be 
used identically) from Matchbox window manager. It provides user 
experience kind between set top box and normal Linux desktop. All 
applications are full-screen and all wm operations are possible from 
keyboard that can be mapped to be controlled from lirc with irxevent. In 
addition to vdr it's nice to run e.g. Google Earth for couch traveling 
or Gcompris for kids. Those require a RF keyboard/mouse joystick for 
controls.

I had to choose once in manual login for vdr from gdm login menu other 
desktop than Gnome/KDE. Successive logins use this setting.
~vdr/.xsession:
---
#!/bin/sh
exec matchbox-session

---

~vdr/.matchbox/session:
---
#! /bin/sh

## Nvidia settings
#/usr/bin/nvidia-settings -l

## Start Matchbox
RANDOM_IMAGE=`ls /usr/local/share/Backgrounds/*1080*jpg | rl -c 1`
matchbox-desktop --icon-size 128 --icon-padding 64 --bg $RANDOM_IMAGE &
/etc/init.d/irxevent.sh restart
exec matchbox-window-manager -theme expose
---

The Menu structure is defined in ~vdr/.matchbox/vfolders. I have created 
custom menus to avoid all debian stuff to show up. It is quite easy 
generate open desktop configuration files by hand. Top level menu is 
defined with these two files. Root.directory:
---
[Desktop Entry]
Name=Programs
Name[fi]=Ohjelmat
Comment=Programs menu
Comment[fi]=Ohjelmat-valikko
Icon=htpc-folder.png
Type=Directory
Match=HTPCRoot
---

Root.Order:

HTPC-main
HTPC-internet
HTPC-games
HTPC-system
---

Desktop icon to launch sxfe is on the top level of matchbox-desktop 
(/usr/share/applications/htpc-vdr-sxfe.desktop)
---
[Desktop Entry]
Name=VDR (Sxfe Xv)
Comment=Watch digital TV, or play films and songs
Exec=/usr/local/bin/htpc-vdr-sxfe.sh
Icon=vdr-logo.png
Type=Application
Categories=HTPCMain,HTPCRoot
---

/usr/local/bin/htpc-vdr-sxfe.sh
---
#!/bin/sh
NOW=`date "+%Y%m%d_%H%M%S"`

## Stop irxevent
/etc/init.d/irxevent.sh stop

## Run vdr-sxfe
/usr/local/bin/vdr-sxfe xvdr://localhost --lirc --audio alsa --video xv 
--fullscreen --nokbd > $HOME/vdr-sxfe-$NOW.txt

## Restart irxevent
/etc/init.d/irxevent.sh start
---

BR,
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Re: [vdr] Deinterlace / Motion Compensation

2008-03-31 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Boguslaw Juza wrote:
>  Hi!
>
>I have a quesion to LCD TV owners. Most of the new LCD TVs have
> a "motion compensation" feature. Is it deinterlacing the picture?
> I'm going to buy Sony40", to connect to PC via DVI/HDMI with 720p
> or 1080p and run VDR with vdr-xine. Now Im using nvidia xxmc and
> the deinterlace is ugly. With LCD TV it'll be visible much more,
> so I need better deinterlacing - so I'm wondering if TV hw motion
> compensation will do it...
>   
TVs de-interlace would matter with interlaced output but I suppose 
field/frame accurate scaled and original way interlaced e.g. 1080i 
output is not possible with Nvidia and X.org. I'm using progressive 
1080p50 output for 576i50 DVB-T/S video. Libxine handles de-interlacing, 
and Xv driver in Xorg the scaling with graphics hardware. The magic 
spell from xinelibout config is

xineliboutput.Video.DeinterlaceOptions = 
method=Greedy,cheap_mode=0,pulldown=none,framerate_mode=full,judder_correction=0,
use_progressive_frame_flag=1,chroma_filter=1,enabled=1

The result is IMHO pretty good with a 50 Hz X.org mode where 
syncronization to vertical refresh is usually close to perfect. 
De-interlacing consumes more CPU than 576i MPEG-2 video decoding.

Advertised techniques for frame rate interpolation to 100/120 Hz perhaps 
matter more for typical Blu-Ray low rate 24p videos than 50/60p 
progressive video from PC. I haven't seen those in action so I'm only 
guessing.

BR,
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Re: [vdr] Autosort plugin segmentation fault

2008-03-24 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Seppo Ingalsuo wrote:
> #0  0xb7c2036a in free () from /lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
> #1  0xb74fceb1 in cMenuTimeStamps (this=0xb22f72dc) at autosort_menu.c:217
>   
I wonder if commenting out free() from that function is the right 
solution? At least timestamp menu from autosort plugin setup doesn't 
crash any more ...


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[vdr] Autosort plugin segmentation fault

2008-03-24 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Hi,

Anyone using autosort? I recently updated autosort 0.0.10 to 0.1.3 
because 0.0.10 could not handle large sorting jobs without getting 
interrupted by some kind of watchdog/timeout and vdr restart (even with 
-w 0). With 0.1.3 I get this about once per hour.

Core was generated by `vdr -c/etc/vdr -E/etc/vdr -v/opt/vdr 
-L/usr/local/lib/vdr -Pxineliboutput --loc'.
Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
#0  0xb7c2036a in free () from /lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
(gdb) where
#0  0xb7c2036a in free () from /lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
#1  0xb74fceb1 in cMenuTimeStamps (this=0xb22f72dc) at autosort_menu.c:217
#2  0xb74fae5d in cAutoSortMainThread::LoopChannels (this=0x8aee1e0) at 
autosort_main_thread.c:274
#3  0xb74fb08a in cAutoSortMainThread::Action (this=0x8aee1e0) at 
autosort_main_thread.c:61
#4  0x0811ad8c in cThread::StartThread (Thread=0x8aee1e0) at thread.c:255
#5  0xb7ecd4fb in start_thread () from /lib/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0
#6  0xb7c8793e in clone () from /lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6

I found a patch from Debian for the configuration directory problem. Are 
there patches for this?

BR,
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Re: [vdr] newest chipset AMD 780G for home-cinema

2008-03-16 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Igor wrote:
> I think it's good platform for VDR with hdtv future :)
>   
It looks promising, I'm myself looking for H.264 HDTV decoding capable 
micro-ATX motherboard and wondering if there are alternatives for 
Nvidia's working but closed binary stuff where e.g. HDMI audio support 
won't be available in Linux according to nvidia's comments in their 
forum. Do the current x.org development drivers for AMD GPUs provide 
smooth SDTV and HDTV playback into DVI/HDMI with xine based software 
decoding with a powerful enough CPU (e.g. 45W rated Athlon 64 X2 4850E)?

BR,
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Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] vdr-rotor support patches for VDR-1.5.16

2008-03-15 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo

Hello,

I didn't get rotor plugin to work possibly due to a tone on hazard 
situation compared to idle time requirements around DiSEqC message. Here 
is patch for multiproto/H.264 patched vdr-1.5.16 that integrates a 
subset of rotor plugin functions (using rotor plugin source code ;^) 
into vdr's LNB setup menu and DiSEqC system. It adds G command into 
diseqc.conf or automatically sends gotox, if gotox enabled in setup, 
when diseq.conf is not used before tuning. Rotor plugin is not needed.  
This seems to work for me.


Cheers,
Seppo

# DiSEqC configuration for VDR
#
# Format:
#
# satellite slof polarization lof command...
#
# satellite:  one of the 'S' codes defined in sources.conf
# slof:   switch frequency of LNB; the first entry with
# an slof greater than the actual transponder
# frequency will be used
# polarization:   V = vertical, H = horizontal
# lof:the local oscillator frequency to subtract from
# the actual transponder frequency
# command:
#   t tone off
#   T tone on
#   v voltage low (13V)
#   V voltage high (18V)
#   A mini A
#   B mini B
#   G GotoX, includes tV W15, Gotox, W15, <2nd Gotox>, dish move wait
#   Wnn   wait nn milliseconds (nn may be any positive integer number)
#   [xx ...]  hex code sequence (max. 6)
#
# The 'command...' part is optional.
#

S7.0W 11700 V  9750 G v t
S7.0W 9 V 10600 G v T
S7.0W 11700 H  9750 G V t
S7.0W 9 H 10600 G V T

S5.0W 11700 V  9750 G v t
S5.0W 9 V 10600 G v T
S5.0W 11700 H  9750 G V t
S5.0W 9 H 10600 G V T

S1.0W 11700 V  9750 G v t
S1.0W 9 V 10600 G v T
S1.0W 11700 H  9750 G V t
S1.0W 9 H 10600 G V T

S5.0E 11700 V  9750 G v t 
S5.0E 9 V 10600 G v T
S5.0E 11700 H  9750 G V t
S5.0E 9 H 10600 G V T

S7.0E 11700 V  9750 G v t 
S7.0E 9 V 10600 G v T
S7.0E 11700 H  9750 G V t
S7.0E 9 H 10600 G V T

S10.0E 11700 V  9750 G v t 
S10.0E 9 V 10600 G v T
S10.0E 11700 H  9750 G V t
S10.0E 9 H 10600 G V T

S13.0E 11700 V  9750 G v t
S13.0E 9 V 10600 G v T
S13.0E 11700 H  9750 G V t
S13.0E 9 H 10600 G V T

S16.0E 11700 V  9750 G v t
S16.0E 9 V 10600 G v T
S16.0E 11700 H  9750 G V t
S16.0E 9 H 10600 G V T

S19.2E 11700 V  9750 G v t
S19.2E 9 V 10600 G v T
S19.2E 11700 H  9750 G V t
S19.2E 9 H 10600 G V T

S21.5E 11700 V  9750 G v t
S21.5E 9 V 10600 G v T
S21.5E 11700 H  9750 G V t
S21.5E 9 H 10600 G V T

S23.5E 11700 V  9750 G v t
S23.5E 9 V 10600 G v T
S23.5E 11700 H  9750 G V t
S23.5E 9 H 10600 G V T

S26.0E 11700 V  9750 G v t
S26.0E 9 V 10600 G v T
S26.0E 11700 H  9750 G V t
S26.0E 9 H 10600 G V T

S28.2E 11700 V  9750 G v t
S28.2E 9 V 10600 G v T
S28.2E 11700 H  9750 G V t
S28.2E 9 H 10600 G V T

S28.5E 11700 V  9750 G v t
S28.5E 9 V 10600 G v T
S28.5E 11700 H  9750 G V t
S28.5E 9 H 10600 G V T

S30.5E 11700 V  9750 G v t
S30.5E 9 V 10600 G v T
S30.5E 11700 H  9750 G V t
S30.5E 9 H 10600 G V T

S31.3E 11700 V  9750 G v t
S31.3E 9 V 10600 G v T
S31.3E 11700 H  9750 G V t
S31.3E 9 H 10600 G V T

S36.0E 11700 V  9750 G v t
S36.0E 9 V 10600 G v T
S36.0E 11700 H  9750 G V t
S36.0E 9 H 10600 G V T

S39.0E 11700 V  9750 G v t
S39.0E 9 V 10600 G v T
S39.0E 11700 H  9750 G V t
S39.0E 9 H 10600 G V T

S40.0E 11700 V  9750 G v t
S40.0E 9 V 10600 G v T
S40.0E 11700 H  9750 G V t
S40.0E 9 H 10600 G V T

S42.0E 11700 V  9750 G v t
S42.0E 9 V 10600 G v T
S42.0E 11700 H  9750 G V t
S42.0E 9 H 10600 G V T

S45.0E 11700 V  9750 G v t
S45.0E 9 V 10600 G v T
S45.0E 11700 H  9750 G V t
S45.0E 9 H 10600 G V T

S47.0E 11700 V  9750 G v t
S47.0E 9 V 10600 G v T
S47.0E 11700 H  9750 G V t
S47.0E 9 H 10600 G V T

S48.0E 11700 V  9750 G v t
S48.0E 9 V 10600 G v T
S48.0E 11700 H  9750 G V t
S48.0E 9 H 10600 G V T

S50.0E 11700 V  9750 G v t
S50.0E 9 V 10600 G v T
S50.0E 11700 H  9750 G V t
S50.0E 9 H 10600 G V T

S53.0E 11700 V  9750 G v t
S53.0E 9 V 10600 G v T
S53.0E 11700 H  9750 G V t
S53.0E 9 H 10600 G V T

# Examples:
#
# Full DiSEqC sequence:
#
#S19.2E  11700 V  9750  t v W15 [E0 10 38 F0] W15 A W15 t
#S19.2E  9 V 10600  t v W15 [E0 10 38 F1] W15 A W15 T
#S19.2E  11700 H  9750  t V W15 [E0 10 38 F2] W15 A W15 t
#S19.2E  9 H 10600  t V W15 [E0 10 38 F3] W15 A W15 T
#
#S21.5E  11700 V  9750  t v W15 [E0 10 38 F4] W15 B W15 t
#S21.5E  9 V 10600  t v W15 [E0 10 38 F5] W15 B W15 T
#S21.5E  11700 H  9750  t V W15 [E0 10 38 F6] W15 B W15 t
#S21.5E  9 H 10600  t V W15 [E0 10 38 F7] W15 B W15 T
#
# Optimized for mini DiSEqC (aka toneburst):
#
# S19.2E  11700 V  9750  t v W15 A W15 t
# S19.2E  9 V 10600  t v W15 A W15 T
# S19.2E  11700 H  9750  t V W15 A W15 t
# S19.2E  9 H 10600  t V W15 A W15 T
#
# S21.5E  11700 V  9750  t v W15 B W15 t
# S21.5E  9 V 10600  t v W15 B W15 T
# S21.5E  11700 H  9750  t V W15 B W15 t
# S21.5E  9 H

Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] vdr-rotor support patches for VDR-1.5.16

2008-03-07 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Hi,

I haven't been able to make rotor plugin work with the multiproto 
driver. I created dummy channel entries that have tone off (f < 11700) 
into beginning of each satellite position group in my channels.conf  and 
now zapping with rotor plugin by pressing ok and then < and > keys works 
with 100% success. I have been looking at rotor plugin and didn't get 
idea how switching off tone could be syncronized to tuning and 
diseqc.conf sequences without possible negative influence to tuning. Or 
is there a guarantee for some order of execution? I wonder if it worked 
with the existing Linux kernel DVB-S driver with just good luck.

Wouldn't it be better to have in diseqc.conf possibility for this kind 
of setup

S19.2E 11700 V  9750 t V W15 G W15 v t
S19.2E 9 V 10600 t V W15 G W15 v T
S19.2E 11700 H  9750 t V W15 G W15 V t
S19.2E 9 H 10600 t V W15 G W15 V T

where the continuous tone is first switched off, then LNB voltage is set 
to 18V for better rotor speed and then GotoX is sent with internal 
computation based on new position and geographic location, etc (to be 
added to vdr setup, e.g. LNB diseqc config page). There could blind be 
waiting of positioning inside G operation with estimate about rotor 
speed to avoid temporary tuning to intermediate positions. Finally the 
proper tone and voltage is set. This way there would be exact control 
when GotoX is issued. It would be possible to enable EIT scan and 
channel/multiplex updates with rotor without fear that it messes up 
channels.conf. With some more thinking the "t V W15" and  "W15" should 
perhaps be put inside "G".

This could be done by utilizing code from rotor plugin this into dvbdevice.c

  if (frontendType & (DVBFE_DELSYS_DVBS | DVBFE_DELSYS_DVBS2)) {
 unsigned int frequency = channel.Frequency();
 if (Setup.DiSEqC) {
cDiseqc *diseqc = Diseqcs.Get(channel.Source(), 
channel.Frequency(), channel.Polarization());
if (diseqc) {
   if (diseqc->Commands() && (!diseqcCommands || 
strcmp(diseqcCommands, diseqc->Commands()) != 0)) {
  cDiseqc::eDiseqcActions da;
  for (char *CurrentAction = NULL; (da = 
diseqc->Execute(&CurrentAction)) != cDiseqc::daNone; ) {
  switch (da) {
case cDiseqc::daNone:  break;
case cDiseqc::daToneOff:   CHECK(ioctl(fd_frontend, 
FE_SET_TONE, SEC_TONE_OFF)); break;
case cDiseqc::daToneOn:CHECK(ioctl(fd_frontend, 
FE_SET_TONE, SEC_TONE_ON)); break;
case cDiseqc::daVoltage13: CHECK(ioctl(fd_frontend, 
FE_SET_VOLTAGE, SEC_VOLTAGE_13)); break;
case cDiseqc::daVoltage18: CHECK(ioctl(fd_frontend, 
FE_SET_VOLTAGE, SEC_VOLTAGE_18)); break;
case cDiseqc::daMiniA: CHECK(ioctl(fd_frontend, 
FE_DISEQC_SEND_BURST, SEC_MINI_A)); break;
case cDiseqc::daMiniB: CHECK(ioctl(fd_frontend, 
FE_DISEQC_SEND_BURST, SEC_MINI_B)); break;
case cDiseqc::daGotoX: {

 ...

  int gotoXTable[10] = { 0x00, 0x02, 0x03, 0x05, 0x06, 0x08, 
0x0A, 0x0B, 0x0D, 0x0E };
  int satlong = (Source & ~0xC800);
  if ((Source & 0xC000) != 0x8000)
return;
  if (Source & 0x0800)
satlong = satlong * (-1);
  int Long=data.GotoxEW ? -data.GotoxLong : data.GotoxLong;
  int Lat=data.GotoxSN ? -data.GotoxLat : data.GotoxLat;
  double 
azimuth=M_PI+atan(tan((satlong-Long)*M_PI/1800)/sin(Lat*M_PI/1800));
  double 
x=acos(cos((satlong-Long)*M_PI/1800)*cos(Lat*M_PI/1800));
  double elevation=atan((cos(x)-0.1513)/sin(x));
  double 
SatHourangle=180+atan((-cos(elevation)*sin(azimuth))/(sin(elevation)*cos(Lat*M_PI/1800)
  
-cos(elevation)*sin(Lat*M_PI/1800)*cos(azimuth)))*180/M_PI;
  int tmp=(int)(fabs(180-SatHourangle)*10);
  tmp=(tmp/10)*0x10 + gotoXTable[ tmp % 10 ];
  int p2=(tmp%0x0100);
  int p1=(tmp/0x0100);
  if (SatHourangle < 180)
p1 |= 0xe0;
  else
p1 |= 0xd0;
  DiseqcCommand(Gotox,p1,p2);
}

...

break;

But as vdr illiterate I couldn't figure how to check if the zapped 
source (diseqc->source?) is a new one to avoid generating unnecessary 
DiSEqC traffic and delays, and wondered to get a global variable for 
storing the previous position... help!

Or does this make sense?

Cheers,
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Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] vdr-rotor support patches for VDR-1.5.16

2008-03-04 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Ales Jurik wrote:
> My result is that the problem with stucked motor appears with new multiproto 
> driver. When I'm using multiproto from 21.12. no problem appears at all.
>   
I couldn't repeat that but I didn't find exactly that multiproto driver.

But I noticed that zapping works reliably with between channels in 
different positions with LNB tone off (frequency < 11700, if I got this 
right...). V/H polarization didn't matter (13V or 18V LNB voltage). 
There should be 15 ms tone off between DiSEqC messages and continuous 
tone that might not happen with rotor plugin and this DVB driver. I 
wonder if that could be the reason?

I wish the GotoX would be better integrated to vdr's DiSEqC 
architecture. Now it looks a bit flaky, rotor plugin seems to monitor 
channel switch events in status.c. I wonder if additing tone off 
controls around gotox transmission would have impact to tuning where 
tone and voltage are set?

BR,
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Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] vdr-rotor support patches for VDR-1.5.16

2008-02-29 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Reinhard Nissl wrote:
> As mentioned above, you'll need an updated vdr-rotor too (see
> attachment), which makes use of the new API.
>
>   
Thanks! This one compiled cleanly.
> Hhm, as I do not own a positioner myself, I cannot test vdr-rotor
> in practice.
>   
OK, I got some help in linux-dvb mailing list with diseqc command 
unreliability. Now it looks a bit better (but not yet good enough "WAF").

Cheers,
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Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] vdr-rotor support patches for VDR-1.5.16

2008-02-28 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo

First, thanks for your vdr patches and all the work with xine-lib!

Reinhard Nissl wrote:
> the attached patch replaces the previously released but
> incomplete patch for VDR-1.5.14, which was part of my recent
> rotor support patches.
>
> You have to apply this patch after patching VDR-1.5.16 with
> DVB-S2+H.264 support.
>   
Do you get this error when compiling rotor plugin 
(vdr-rotor-0.1.4-vdr1.5.7.tgz)?

g++-4.3 -O2 -Wall -Woverloaded-virtual -Wno-parentheses -fPIC -c 
-D_GNU_SOURCE -DPLUGIN_NAME_I18N='"rotor"' 
-I/home/seppo/src/dvb/multiproto-0448e5a6d8a6/linux/include 
-I../../..//include 
-I/home/seppo/src/dvb/multiproto-0448e5a6d8a6/linux/include menu.c
menu.c: In member function 'virtual eOSState 
cMainMenuRotor::ProcessKey(eKeys)':
menu.c:304: error: no matching function for call to 
'cChannel::SetSatTransponderData(int, int&, char&, int&, fe_code_rate)'
../../..//include/vdr/channels.h:226: note: candidates are: bool 
cChannel::SetSatTransponderData(int, int, char, int, int, int, int, int)
menu.c:316: error: no matching function for call to 
'cChannel::SetSatTransponderData(int, int&, char&, int&, fe_code_rate)'
../../..//include/vdr/channels.h:226: note: candidates are: bool 
cChannel::SetSatTransponderData(int, int, char, int, int, int, int, int)
menu.c: In member function 'void cMenuScan::AddChannel(int)':
menu.c:429: error: no matching function for call to 
'cChannel::SetPids(int, int, int [33], char [33][8], int [17], char 
[17][8], int)'
../../..//include/vdr/channels.h:232: note: candidates are: void 
cChannel::SetPids(int, int, int*, char (*)[8], int*, char (*)[8], int*, 
char (*)[8], int)
menu.c: In member function 'void cMenuScan::SetPids(int, int, int, int*, 
char (*)[8], int*, char (*)[8], int)':
menu.c:467: error: no matching function for call to 
'cChannel::SetPids(int&, int&, int*&, char (*&)[8], int*&, char (*&)[8], 
int&)'
../../..//include/vdr/channels.h:232: note: candidates are: void 
cChannel::SetPids(int, int, int*, char (*)[8], int*, char (*)[8], int*, 
char (*)[8], int)
make[1]: *** [menu.o] Error 1

As a brutal fix I added dummy parameters (zeros, copy language strings, 
etc.) for SetSatTransponderData() and SetPids() calls to get it 
compiled. I appreciate a real correction if such exists ;^)

I'm having problems in getting my diseqc motor positioner to work with 
multiproto+h.264 patched vdr 1.5.16. It is at the moment very 
unreliable. Most of the time it just stays stuck into the old position 
so possibly the commands get corrupted.  Is a Technotrend S2-3200 
capable to control a positioner? My old budget-s Tecnotrend was very 
reliable in driving the same positioner.

BR,
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Re: [vdr] DXR3?

2007-12-04 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Rob Davis wrote:
> I have a couple of SkyStar cards on a VDR server, running xineliboutput
> on an NVidia card using a VGA cable to my HDTV.  I am seeing lagging,
> tearing and noticeable interlacing.
>   
For tearing check that you have sync to Vblank enabled for Xv in 
nvidia-settings and include running of that in non-GUI mode into your X 
session startup. I wonder if that is available in xorg.conf. For nvidia 
remember to have Option "UseEvents" "True" in xorg.conf.

I wasn't able to get good motion via 60 Hz VGA and switched to HDMI that 
supports 50 Hz picture. I lost native panel resolution for slightly less 
sharp 720p mode but the overall video quality is much better. 60 Hz VGA 
might be good for NTSC but not for PAL.

I use for deinterlacing GreedyL deinterlacer with full frame rate 
(judder compensation off, chroma filter on, etc.) and the result is in 
my opinion good. E.g. horizontal scrolling news and stock tickers look 
perfect, better and sharper motion than in 2nd vdr box with old 50 Hz 
CRT TV and DXR3.

If overscan of 720p annoys and TV doesn't support underscan it is 
possible to compensated HDMI desktop overscan with this kind of modeline

ModeLine   "1224x689p50" 74.2 1224 1720 1760 1980 689 725 730 750 
+hsync +vsync

Then something like 3-4% overscan can be added to xineliboutput settings 
to hide the trash outside picture area. I had to fiddle also with 
nvidia-settings resolution related scaling effects to get desired 
overscan compensation effect.

Full HD TVs fortunately support underscan or exact scan.
> Is it worth buying a DXR3 on ebay?
>   
Not if DVI/HDMI is possible.

BR,
Seppo


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Re: [vdr] Output methods and WSS

2007-10-11 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Kartsa wrote:
> 2. And what would be the best output method?
>   
Any of the soft devices outputting progressive de-interlaced video via 
DVI/HDMI to a flat panel display! I wish there would be (easy to set up) 
HD OSD as well ;^)

Cheers,
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Re: [vdr] Configuring vdr-sxfe to use a single vdr backend for recordings/dvb cards

2007-06-18 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Petri Hintukainen wrote:
> I use timersync plugin to disables recording on client VDRs. All timers
> are still visible at each client and you can create/modify timers at any
> client just as before. Plugin synchronizes all modifications to timers
> between VDR instances and takes care that all recordings are made only
> by "master" vdr. 

Are there solutions to similarly synchronize preferably in real time 
channels.conf (the satellite crap is managed by autosort plugin in my 
setup) and recordings listing? I'm using a slightly different setup 
compared to your idea where I need to regularly kill the clients and 
copy the channels.conf from main vdr box. Recordings list gets updated 
when a client restarts. These limitations are currently causing 
confusion in my family.

Best regards,
Seppo


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Re: [vdr] Lightning destroyed my 4 DVB-S cards, what should I replace them with?

2007-05-27 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo

Carsten Koch wrote:

Should I still buy a FF card at all or does xine or softdevice
work just as reliably by now?


I don't have a FF card but using a dxr3 in my 2nd vdr box so I have some 
experience about HW decoded vdr -- but


If you have a flat panel TV with HDMI/DVI input, I believe all the 
softdevices around will provide a high quality scaled and deinterlaced 
progressive output via graphics card DVI output. Sound cards with SPDIF 
or optical Toslink will give high quality audio if you have an AV receiver.


I'm using myself xinelibout in daemon mode "24/7" and use vdr-sxfe 
(fired from Matchbox desktop that is controlled by Lirc) to connect to 
VDR to provide 50Hz 720p full-screen video. MPEG Decoding (Xv) is 
suspended by a plugin after a timeout.


Cheers,
Seppo


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Re: [vdr] Streamdev and subtitles and HD

2007-03-23 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo

Hi,

Pasi Juppo wrote:

Is there any plans to have subtitle support for streamdev plugin? Or is
there by any chance a patch that provides it?


I got dvb subtitles to work thanks to this tip (in Finnish) 
http://www.linuxtv.fi/viewtopic.php?t=2029&start=30&sid=29c463b7f0abe6a3c18ef54d9142cdbd


Using multipid streaming and manual copying of plugins/subchannels.conf 
from server to client seems to do the trick!


Cheers,
Seppo


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Re: [vdr] Vdr or driver performance dropout

2007-02-05 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo

Jouni Karvo wrote:

Earlier I had an ATI GFX card and used XV (with xine) for playback,
and had not this problem.  After switching to nVidia GeForce FX 5200,
it started.


I wonder if this would help in xorg.conf Device section

Option "UseEvents" "True"

(from http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/242086)

I got this tip and it helped to my random video freeze problems with 
Nvidia binary driver and Xv.


BR,
Seppo

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Re: [vdr] xineliboutput settings help.

2006-12-09 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I think with XVMC you don't get deinterlacing, because you forward sort of mpeg
data to video card, and if videocard cannot do proper deinterlacing. Starting 
from Nvidia 6600 there is purevideo hardware deinterlacers which work ok on

Windows side.


Here is a summary

http://www.nvidia.com/page/purevideo_support.html

For SDTV the "spatial temporal" deinterlacing is supported up from 6150 
and 6200 chips. A 6600 is need for HD. Despite of rumours in the nvidia 
forum nothing has happened to support Linux :^(



On possible direction would be investigating xv_deinterlace if that can be used.
But probably not with XVMC.


I have been able to activate in the past some kind of linear blend (loss 
of vertical resolution) and bob (some blinking) deinterlacers with xxmc. 
Since xine-lib CVS 1.1.3/4 and new Nvidia binary drivers I'm not able to 
activate deinterlacing any more.


This is a bit off-thread but I guess the pain in the *** interlaced 
video won't be killed in near future. Has anyone been able to output 
with xinelibout properly scaled video to 1080i over DVI/HDMI without 
need to de-interlace in PC but in the display device?


I need X.org and like to play games in the HTPC so fbdev is not an 
option for me.


BR,
Seppo


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Re: [vdr] Recordings sorting

2006-11-15 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo

Petri Helin wrote:


I have used those two together and seen the feature (which I actually
like quite a bit), but not the bug.


I admit there is some sense in showing recordings menu after playback 
finishes though it is different from vanilla vdr functionality.


About the bug: I think the recording menu re-appears sometimes after 
interrupting playback by selecting a live-tv channel from channels menu. 
However I'm not able to repeat that regularly.


Seppo


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Re: [vdr] Recordings sorting

2006-11-14 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo

Hi,

Martin Prochnow wrote:
if you use my ExtRecMenu-Plugin 
(http://martins-kabuff.de/extrecmenu_en.html), you are able to change 
the type of sorting (by name or by date) for each directory individually.


I tried v0.12a with my streamdev vdr client, and channel sorting looks 
now sane for the NFS mounted recording subdirectory but there is a 
problem with the recording menu that pops up annoyingly after end of 
recording playback and sometimes in channel switching. Is that a bug or 
an intentional feature?


BR,
Seppo


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Re: [vdr] Re: Best video card for 1080i/p with softdevice?

2006-09-17 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo

CR wrote:


I say if you have an AGP/PCI system, consider the nVidia MX4000.  I
haven't used it myself with VDR but it supports XvMC (MPEG2 decode) and
it's passively cooled.  How good is the hardware de-interlacer?  That is
unknown to me, maybe someone else can comment.


It's worth to check Wikipedia about various chipset generations:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia#Graphics_chipsets

I have in my desktop computer a 7600GS (with a nasty small heatsink and 
fan), the passive cooled version (Asus, etc.) would be quite suitable 
for a HTPC. It has quite good 3D gaming performance as well.


I wish nvidia released Linux support for MPEG-4 HW decoding for pure 
video chipsets (6xxx and 7xxx).



How do you enable the de-interlacer seppo?


In xine + vdr plugin

xine --no-splash --hide-gui --fullscreen -Dtvtime:method=use_vo_driver 
-V xxmc -A alsa vdr:/tmp/vdr-xine/stream#demux:mpeg_pes


or xine + xinelibout

xine --no-splash --hide-gui --fullscreen -Dtvtime:method=use_vo_driver 
-V xxmc -A alsa "xvdr://127.0.0.1#nocache;demux:mpeg_block"


In vdr-sxfe

vdr-sxfe xvdr://192.168.1.4 --lirc --audio alsa --video xxmc 
--fullscreen --post tvtime:method=use_vo_driver


But I have some problems with sxfe, the nvidia OSD color hack 
(video.device.xvmc_nvidia_color_fix:1) is not available. Also the 
playback is not smooth when OSD graphics is active. Perhaps the 
sudo+renice -18 trick from this mailing list today could help.




What version of xine-lib and X.Org do you use?


At the moment fresh CVS, X.org 7.0 and latest (8774) nvidia binary drivers.

BR,
Seppo


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Re: [vdr] Best video card for 1080i/p with softdevice?

2006-09-15 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo

Niko Mikkila wrote:

cheap ATI and NVIDIA cards are good for HD video output (esp. NVIDIA
because you can get MPEG-2 acceleration working with the binary
drivers). The cheapest passively cooled cards work as well for video
playback on Linux as the high-end models, so don't pay over 40 euros
for one. 


Perhaps not the cheapest one. I just upgraded FX 5200 to 6200, both 
passive cooled low end cards. The HW deinterlacer for progressive output 
(720p in my case) is much better in 6xxx and 7xxx nvidias imho. In FX 
5200 it was not really usable. With interlaced mode the case would be 
different but there the problem with cheapest cards to get 1080i over DVI.


I'm not yet 100% satisfied with HW xvmc + de-interlacing with the 6200. 
The load in system is very low, only some % and the system is running 
really cool but I get video flicker (some black lines for a fraction of 
second) with DVB subtitles. Also the OSD has some very small vertical 
judder probably due to deinterlacing. Any ideas to fix these with x.org 
and xine settings?


Cheers,
Seppo


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Re: [vdr] LCDproc plugin 0.1.0 with VDR 1.4.1-1

2006-09-05 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo

Christian Kruft wrote:
does anybody have a patch to make the lcdproc 0.1.0 plugin work with VDR 
1.4.1-1 ? I've tried one from January but this patch doesn't help. While 
starting VDR I got this errors: Close Called
Not Connected !!!  After that, VDR shuts down. LCDproc is working fine, 
only this plugin won't work.


I have the same problem, patch for vdr 1.3.38 and some Makefile fixing 
didn't help. VDR just quits. Did you find a solution for this?


Cheers,
Seppo


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Re: [vdr] anyone using Technotrend Premium S2300 (Rev 2.3) "modded"

2006-08-26 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo

Simon Baxter wrote:

Incidentally, is anyone out there using vdr-xine with HDTV?  What kind of 
PC/hardware are you using?  Any comments on quality etc??


Some DVB-S & MPEG-2 1080i demo channels still run on Sirius 5.0E. Works 
quite well with xine xxmc and 720p DVI/HDMI output to a LCD TV. The 
problem is that the HW deinterlacer in my FX5200 card is poor quality 
with some jagged moving edges. High quality SW deinterlacers such as 
GreedyH run only in "cheap" mode in my Sempron 3100+ CPU. Anyway cheap 
mode quality is not that bad.


My first tests with Nvidia 6200 and new HW deinterlacer look quite 
promising. I might also try 1080i mode with xxmc and deinterlacing in TV 
(5200 is not capable to 1080i trough DVI).


There is also support for MPEG-4 decoding in 6xxx 7xxx series nvidia 
cards but unfortunately not supported in Linux. Only MPEG-2 acceleration 
works.


I wish Klaus would upgrade some day to DVB-S2 and soft HDTV decoding :^)

Cheers,
Seppo





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