Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
I will have a think about seeing if I can put such an idea in a more polite, - and less possibly illegal way if i can. Beware the Grue! dark. - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:50 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? I agree with this principle... but like you, I think it would be interesting to see how long it would take them to get off their butts and say something. I entertain the thought, but am also straight so will leave it as just that. An idea. At 04:30 PM 15/12/2010, you wrote: Hi Dark, Yeah, I know. Being a moderator myself I couldn't do anything like that myself, nor allow anyone to do it here on Audyssey either. I was just thinking it would be funny if someone did actually give them an ultimatom of get with the program or just abandon the games altogether. None of this we are working on something, but won't tell you what it is, or we don't read or e-mail because of spam crap. There comes a time when a company like that is just asking for someone to pirate them out of existance or something. HOwever, straight people like you and I will try to honor them even if they don't really deserve it just on principle. Smile. On 12/15/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: funnily enough Tom, I've been cconsiddering doing that very thing myself, issuing them with an ultimatum. shape up or officially go bust, no more of this idiotic hanging about. There are only two reasons why i haven't. firstly, I don't want to get audiogames.net into any sort of legal trouble. Secondly, as a moderator I must considder that we have a fairly strict policy about piracy. While rules have occasionally been bent for people posting links to old or abandoned games such as code factory's, (though this is kept on a strictly unofficial basis and out of the database or news), this would be directly placing free copies of at least nominally available games, which we really can't condone. Afterall, that potentially opens the way for some scumbag to then turn up and say Well, company x hasn't released games for a while, so here are cracked versions Finally, suppose Bavisoft then said oh fine! you ungreatful bunch, the games are now abandonware, we're going to quit developement forever and retire to the country where we'll spend time cursing audio game players for all iternity for destroying our ambition! We were actually working on chillingham 2 who's developement was stopped because our lead programmer got his legs bitten off by a shark while sunbathing, and our second programmers' father went mad and thought he was a horse so she needed to go home and provide him with large supplies of oats, but you'll never see it now! methinks I'd feel a trifle guilty. Btw, anyone tries this on the forum, and I'll have to delete the topic. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] starwar game questions
E books aren't really of help to me unfortunately, sinse I have no braille printer or braille display, and would prefer not to have to read with a synth voice if it can be helped. I actually have found various starwars audio books, so the situation certainly isn't that bad. Beware the Grtue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:51 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] starwar game questions Well that's fair. But there are also a lot of ebook collections around if you take time to look for them. I have one that has I think a hundred or so books, in text format. At 04:31 PM 15/12/2010, you wrote: Well, at least in the case of starwars, it's a matter of as chronological as I can get access too. for the old republic stuff, i started with knights of the old republic and dark lords of the sith, the two audio plays, then went on to cloak of deception and shadow hunter. simply going on the basis of what is available to me, I've thus far got up roughly to the start of a new hope. I know I have missed some books, for instance several of the trials of the jedi novels (which is a shame sinse I rather enjoy that series), but this is just what happens when working from audio, - which is in it's way as much of a disadvantage as lack of ability to read commics in terms of availability, especially on this side of the Atlantic (the only starwars novels the rnib talking book library have ever done are the three thrawn books). I'll also admit that sinse I'm coming to the expanded universe of starwars very late, sinse though i grew up with the films i have only just managed to read some of the other materials, I was uncertain as to where to begin so decided to begin at the beginning, or at any wrate as close to it as availability would let me get. Beware the Grue! dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:13 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] starwar game questions Hi Dark, Wo! If you want to read something like Star Wars, such as every book in chronological order, that would be a lot of reading. How far back to the beginning are we talking. As I said in one of my posts there are several different eras. We could go clear back in to the Knights of the Old Republic era which happens thousands of years before the Clone Wars. You Could start with something like Cloak of Deception which happens about 20 years before the Clone Wars and read from there etc. Either way if you want to go back to the beginning we are talking a couple dozen books before we even get to Star Wars a New Hope which was the first book and movie released. Then, from there there is at least 40 or 50 books that happens after A New Hope. It would take you a good year or two to read all that. Plus I don't mean to disappoint you, but not all the history is in books. We have the Star Wars Clone Wars cartoons that has a lot of cannon information not found in the books per say. Also some story lines found in the Star Wars comic books has a habit of being cannonized at some point as well. For example, Luke and Mara's wedding is never covered in any book, but was covered in the Star Wars comics, and obviously became cannonized as historical events in the Star Wars universe. In another case Lumiya, Darth Vader's apprentice, shows up in the Star Wars comics initially. For several years she remained nothing more and nothing less than a comic book villen. However, once she was used in the Legacy of the Force series suddenly she was ccannonized, and became a part of the Star Wars history thus making all the comic books in that series historical. Since the comics aren't exactly accessible we are at a disadvantage as we can't get the entire chronology through books and movies. Cheers! On 12/15/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: to be honest charlese, while I suspect this is the case (the thrawn books were the first I read but I had no trouble placing them time wise being as I do know the films), I am a bit of a stickler for reading books or watching series and films in the correct order. I have to begin at the beginning and go through to the end, and if there are spinoffs or the like I have to do them in their correct place if I can. for instance, I am about to watch babylon 5 again. I bought the big box set, containing all five series, pluss the spinoff series crusade, pluss all the films. When i originally watched the series back in 2006, I went on wikipedia and specifically looked up after which episodes the various extras came, even down to breaking off a series in the middle to watch one film in one case. so, while I understand the starwars thing, it's just generally a part of how I tend to do things. I think i might be so dogmatic about this sinse while growing up, the rnib
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
I agree, as I said, i will considder a way of writing bavisoft a more polite version of a similar principle. for instance, I may point out to them that it is unreasonable of them to expect people not to put there games up for download online when in fact those games cannot be obtained legitimately given bavisoft's horrible record of processing orders, and that their lack of ability to be contacted over this makes that situation far worse. I will have a think and see how best to word such a message. Beware the ~Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:53 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Very true. As I just said, I'm entertaining the thought, but am not going to do it... I'm not as crooked as some people out there. But I do agree... if someone was to actually do it, it wouldn't be a good precedent to set. But that doesn't change the fact that trying to order directly through them or contact them via email is pretty much a waste of time... --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Well as I said yohandi, code factory is a case of bending rather than breaking rules. Sinse the games are impossible to get hold of anymore, and code factory does nothing to support them, some people on audiogames.net have been trying to distribute the games. I'm not prepared to stick this on the database or news, but sinse code factory haven't (unlike bavisoft), told us we absolutely can't, there's sort of a grey area here, so while we are usually dead against piracy on audiogames.net, I've allowed people to keep posting links (indeed I don't say that I might not have downloaded copies myself I am not sure of what Tom's thoughts are relating to audeasy and this matter, so won't post any links here. As I said, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Legally again, that is something of a sticky whickit and they could quite probably object. As I said I'll think of a more correct way of phraising this sort of thing on the forum and see what comes about. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:43 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Thing is we don't have to share a thing. they won't know that however and they'll actually think we'll do it. so they'll be forced to respond or they'll be left wondering and worrying if we'd actually go through with it. We just need to be convincing about it. - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? I agree with this principle... but like you, I think it would be interesting to see how long it would take them to get off their butts and say something. I entertain the thought, but am also straight so will leave it as just that. An idea. At 04:30 PM 15/12/2010, you wrote: Hi Dark, Yeah, I know. Being a moderator myself I couldn't do anything like that myself, nor allow anyone to do it here on Audyssey either. I was just thinking it would be funny if someone did actually give them an ultimatom of get with the program or just abandon the games altogether. None of this we are working on something, but won't tell you what it is, or we don't read or e-mail because of spam crap. There comes a time when a company like that is just asking for someone to pirate them out of existance or something. HOwever, straight people like you and I will try to honor them even if they don't really deserve it just on principle. Smile. On 12/15/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: funnily enough Tom, I've been cconsiddering doing that very thing myself, issuing them with an ultimatum. shape up or officially go bust, no more of this idiotic hanging about. There are only two reasons why i haven't. firstly, I don't want to get audiogames.net into any sort of legal trouble. Secondly, as a moderator I must considder that we have a fairly strict policy about piracy. While rules have occasionally been bent for people posting links to old or abandoned games such as code factory's, (though this is kept on a strictly unofficial basis and out of the database or news), this would be directly placing free copies of at least nominally available games, which we really can't condone. Afterall, that potentially opens the way for some scumbag to then turn up and say Well, company x hasn't released games for a while, so here are cracked versions Finally, suppose Bavisoft then said oh fine! you ungreatful bunch, the games are now abandonware, we're going to quit developement forever and retire to the country where we'll spend time cursing audio game players for all iternity for destroying our ambition! We were actually working on chillingham 2 who's developement was stopped because our lead programmer got his legs bitten off by a shark while sunbathing, and our second programmers' father went mad and thought he was a horse so she needed to go home and provide him with large supplies of oats, but you'll never see it now! methinks I'd feel a trifle guilty. Btw, anyone tries this on the forum, and I'll have to delete the topic. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Indeed, in 2006 I got both games myself within three weeks. this is again why i'm not prepared to issue them with a now or never ultimatum, sinse manifestly they do! stil fill some orders, it just so happens there are others which they don't. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Greg Steel greegste...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 5:56 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi this is strange that they don't respond to anyones emails or orders I bought both of the games 2 years ago and I got them a month later after my birthday which was in June. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Oh I've been tempted to do that. Then again not many people would be able to play them anymore since they're hardly Vista compatible, let alone Windows 7. Except what I'd be tempted to do is post and say that I had already done it. Of course then I'd have a lot of the rest of the community mad at me if I posted a fake link. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi, Ooh...That gives me an extremely wicked thought. Let me just say I know a way that would seriously light a fire under their collective butts and might knock a little sense into Bavisoft. Just for kicks what if someone got on the audiogames.net forums and said if Bavisoft doesn't begin answering their e-mail, correct shipping order problems, etc person x is going to simply upload their games somewhere and give them away for free. Yeah, I know, it is pretty low, but I'm sure they would be climbing out of their collective holes to sscream for people not to do that too them. The obvious reply would be for them to A, be able to be contacted via their support addresses, and B, that they disclose any and all projects they are working on immediately. Otherwise we don't believe you and Bavisoft doesn't exist. Now, wouldn't that burn their butts. Lol! I'm not suggesting that anyone actually do this, but wouldn't it be funny? Could you imagine them getting bent out of shape because a number of their customers just revolted and plastered Bavisoft's games over the internet, because Bavisoft never answeres their e-mail etc? Cheers! On 12/15/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: A scam no. The company did certainly exist and sold games in fact I bought both titles in 2006 and stil own them, and while on audiogames.net we have heard of people not recieving orders, there are undoubtedly people who have. that being said, why the company is neither answering E-mails nor giving any communication beyond don't make our games abandonware even to those who's orders go missing is beyond me, to say nothing about not even a mention of windows 7 compatibility or indeed any news from them at all. I'm sorry to say, the only real way to communicate with bavisoft is post a topic on audiogames.net saying that their games should be stuck up somewhere as abandonware for people to download freely, sinse this is the only time we here a peep out of them. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi Dark, As far as the piracy rules of the Audyssey list goes we require written permission from the developer/author in order to redistribute games freely. As Dan, Philip Bennefall, and a few developers have publically given permission to redistribute games like Super Deecout, Tarzan Junior, etc we freely do so. With Code Factory they haven't outright said you can't give their games away for free, nor have they given anyone outright permission to do so either. For that reason I haven't put any of their games on my website or allowed anyone to post download links to Audyssey. It is a fine line between piracy and simply redistributing supposed abandonware, and Raul and I would like that definition to be a little more clear cut by the developers. For example, let's take Montezuma's Revenge. That's a game that is clearly abandonware, and I certainly created it. I have very clear cut and specific reasons for not wanting the game to be redistributed. I made a legal agreement not to redistribute/continue that game and am probably legally bound by that agreement. Now, if someone starts passing it around I could end up in trouble for it even though I wasn't the one who initiated the distribution. For that reason I have a firm no redistribution polacy with that game. In other developers' cases, Code Factory, even though they currently have no support for their games doesn't mean that a year from now they will release new versions of said games. In which case we would have given away a number of their games for free, pirated them, even though they themselves had something in the works regarding those titles. Therefore it is a good safeguard, even if it is nothing more than a formality, to get the developer's permission before redistributing software freely. We really don't know that Code Factory, Bavisoft, etc really has nothing planned in the future. All we know is the appear to be abandoned at the moment. Cheers! On 12/16/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Well as I said yohandi, code factory is a case of bending rather than breaking rules. Sinse the games are impossible to get hold of anymore, and code factory does nothing to support them, some people on audiogames.net have been trying to distribute the games. I'm not prepared to stick this on the database or news, but sinse code factory haven't (unlike bavisoft), told us we absolutely can't, there's sort of a grey area here, so while we are usually dead against piracy on audiogames.net, I've allowed people to keep posting links (indeed I don't say that I might not have downloaded copies myself I am not sure of what Tom's thoughts are relating to audeasy and this matter, so won't post any links here. As I said, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi Dark, Not only that, but you might want to point out or add that adding some sort of download service would greatly improve their order system. For example, on USA Games we have a php script that routes you to Paypal for checkout and ordering, and when done it brings up a secured download page to download the title that expires after 7 days. They could do the same, and with most people on cable or DSL these days there is really no need for shipping physical media to a customer. That would go a long ways to resolving their problem with orders getting lost in the mail, and is automated for the most part. Cheers! On 12/16/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: I agree, as I said, i will considder a way of writing bavisoft a more polite version of a similar principle. for instance, I may point out to them that it is unreasonable of them to expect people not to put there games up for download online when in fact those games cannot be obtained legitimately given bavisoft's horrible record of processing orders, and that their lack of ability to be contacted over this makes that situation far worse. I will have a think and see how best to word such a message. Beware the ~Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi Yohandy, That was exactly my point. I basically wasn't suggesting that someone actually upload and share the games for real. Only that someone jurk their chain a little and convince them that we are going to go through with it to bring them to the bargoning table and open a dialog with their customers. Some of us, such as myself, wouldn't actually upload and share their games on principle. However, I might be willing to convince them I would do so if it would get their attention long enough to give them a piece of my mind, and to tell them to shape up or go out of business. Smile. On 12/15/10, Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com wrote: Thing is we don't have to share a thing. they won't know that however and they'll actually think we'll do it. so they'll be forced to respond or they'll be left wondering and worrying if we'd actually go through with it. We just need to be convincing about it. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi Dark, Yeah, good point. In both cases we know that the companies are still in business. With BSC we know that Justin is busy with work and family so BSC Games has been sidelined, but not forgotten. While we don't know exactly what Draconis is doing i do know that they are developing a cross-platform engine, the same as I am, in order to port their titles to Mac OS. As I know this is going to be an extremely long and difficult process I'm not surprised we haven't heard much out of Josh. However, we do know Draconis still does exist, fulfills orders, and so on. However, someone less aware of their activities might assume their stuff is abandoned and do something foolish like pass their games around assuming they are abandoned or something. So you are right automatically assuming something is abandoned even if it is a company like Bavisoft is a poor president to set. Cheers! On 12/15/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: unfortunately clemment, while to you and I and many people not updating your site and having bouncing e-mails is sufficient grounds to say someone is no longer a company, legally that's not how things work. If bavisoft are stil registered as a company, --- which, by the fact their website is stil up, some orders at least are filled, and they do to some degree stil communicate even if not actuallying saying anything useful, they could quite successfully take someone to court for simply claiming they weren't one. It'd be akin to someone saying Welll, that car was just left on the corner of the street for two weeks, obviously nobody was owning it so I took it As regards piracy, I was actually thinking of Draconis. There games are the easiest to crack and redistribute, and they in fact haven't released anything new for some considderable time. in fact I believe their last update was in 2008 which was a vista compatibility fix to many of there games. the same could be said of bsc, even if their games are slightly harder to crack. there is! evidence (which is to say there isn't), that they haven't done any updating of there site sinse the vista patches, which is I think all the amo some people would need. Pluss, i wouldn't personally like to see a situation where any tom dick or harry could legitimately pirate any game they wished if they happen to feel that the company hadn't communicated or updated, that would not be good, (developers would be in terror of their mail servers crashing). Ultimately, it'd be a nasty precedent to set and probably end up doing more harm than good in the end. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] starwar game questions
Hi, Ummm..Come to think of it I don't. I'm not sure but it probably was started by Darth Bane or one of the earlier Sith Lords, but that's about all I know of the Darth title. That would be an interesting thing to look up on one of the Star Wars wikis. On 12/15/10, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, Do you know the history behind the darth prefix? Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi Tom. I did think this was the case, however the difference betwene code factory and bavisoft is that bavisoft have flat out said don't pirate our games where as code factory haven't (if they do I'll personally delete any such topic discussing the matter from audiogames.net). However, they are literally impossible to contact, heck, I tried to contact them back in 2006 and couldn't get a word, so there's nothing siad. This is why I've allowed it, and if indeed I am wrong I'd be glad to rectify the situation. Stil, I do accept that this is at the discression of the moderator or list owner. Btw, as regards montizumas return, I stil wish you could simply change the name slightly and release it as a free project if nothing else. i will absolutely admit i stil have the game, and while (sinse I understand the legal shenanigans), I won't be redistributing it, neither do I have any intention of deleting it, indeed I've played it on several occasions. I do however feel rather sad that nobody else will get the chance to, sinse, while it's undoubtedly not up to the standard of current Mota, it is stil a fun game in it's own right. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
already done actually tom. see my message to bavisoft. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, Not only that, but you might want to point out or add that adding some sort of download service would greatly improve their order system. For example, on USA Games we have a php script that routes you to Paypal for checkout and ordering, and when done it brings up a secured download page to download the title that expires after 7 days. They could do the same, and with most people on cable or DSL these days there is really no need for shipping physical media to a customer. That would go a long ways to resolving their problem with orders getting lost in the mail, and is automated for the most part. Cheers! On 12/16/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: I agree, as I said, i will considder a way of writing bavisoft a more polite version of a similar principle. for instance, I may point out to them that it is unreasonable of them to expect people not to put there games up for download online when in fact those games cannot be obtained legitimately given bavisoft's horrible record of processing orders, and that their lack of ability to be contacted over this makes that situation far worse. I will have a think and see how best to word such a message. Beware the ~Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] starwar game questions
Hi, Nope. That's all I know as well, and I've read every Star Wars book I can get my fingers on. If there is a history of the Darth title it either hasn't been given or it is in some inaccessible format like the comic books or something. On 12/15/10, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: I confess to being curious. The only knowledge I have is that bane found it in the library of the sith academy on Koriban. Sith lords used it way back when but it fell out of disuse, and Darth bane brought it back into fashion along with the rule of two. Did I miss anything? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi Dark, Umm...Where is that messsage? I'd like to read. Smile. On 12/16/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: already done actually tom. see my message to bavisoft. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
I did post a copy to the list, but just in case you want to read the original topic on the forum (and any responses from bavisoft), see http ://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=4495 As I said in that message though, please don't reply to the topic directly, sinse I want to leave the way open for Bavisoft to say their piece. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, Umm...Where is that messsage? I'd like to read. Smile. On 12/16/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: already done actually tom. see my message to bavisoft. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi Dark, Actually, I do have something like that in mind. I've been thinking of creating something like a cross between a Pitfall and Montezuma's Revenge clone possably as freeware. Of course, if I'm clever about it and write it with a totally new character, music, sounds, and slightly new ideas I could probably sell it as a stand alone product. Smile. On 12/16/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. I did think this was the case, however the difference betwene code factory and bavisoft is that bavisoft have flat out said don't pirate our games where as code factory haven't (if they do I'll personally delete any such topic discussing the matter from audiogames.net). However, they are literally impossible to contact, heck, I tried to contact them back in 2006 and couldn't get a word, so there's nothing siad. This is why I've allowed it, and if indeed I am wrong I'd be glad to rectify the situation. Stil, I do accept that this is at the discression of the moderator or list owner. Btw, as regards montizumas return, I stil wish you could simply change the name slightly and release it as a free project if nothing else. i will absolutely admit i stil have the game, and while (sinse I understand the legal shenanigans), I won't be redistributing it, neither do I have any intention of deleting it, indeed I've played it on several occasions. I do however feel rather sad that nobody else will get the chance to, sinse, while it's undoubtedly not up to the standard of current Mota, it is stil a fun game in it's own right. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Nice. it'd be a shame to see the game go to waste. Also i do admit I like the forcefields and vanishing platforms, they remind me of mega man, even if their hardly astec. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, Actually, I do have something like that in mind. I've been thinking of creating something like a cross between a Pitfall and Montezuma's Revenge clone possably as freeware. Of course, if I'm clever about it and write it with a totally new character, music, sounds, and slightly new ideas I could probably sell it as a stand alone product. Smile. On 12/16/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. I did think this was the case, however the difference betwene code factory and bavisoft is that bavisoft have flat out said don't pirate our games where as code factory haven't (if they do I'll personally delete any such topic discussing the matter from audiogames.net). However, they are literally impossible to contact, heck, I tried to contact them back in 2006 and couldn't get a word, so there's nothing siad. This is why I've allowed it, and if indeed I am wrong I'd be glad to rectify the situation. Stil, I do accept that this is at the discression of the moderator or list owner. Btw, as regards montizumas return, I stil wish you could simply change the name slightly and release it as a free project if nothing else. i will absolutely admit i stil have the game, and while (sinse I understand the legal shenanigans), I won't be redistributing it, neither do I have any intention of deleting it, indeed I've played it on several occasions. I do however feel rather sad that nobody else will get the chance to, sinse, while it's undoubtedly not up to the standard of current Mota, it is stil a fun game in it's own right. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi Dark, Okay, I just read it and I think it was well written. Do let us know if you hear anything from Bavisoft. Itis a shame they are letting things come to this point, because I always felt that the acting in their titles is great. The sounds aren't bad either. The games are a tad dull for my standards, but still they shouldn't just abandon their customers without any reason as they have done. Smile. On 12/16/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: I did post a copy to the list, but just in case you want to read the original topic on the forum (and any responses from bavisoft), see http ://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=4495 As I said in that message though, please don't reply to the topic directly, sinse I want to leave the way open for Bavisoft to say their piece. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, Umm...Where is that messsage? I'd like to read. Smile. On 12/16/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: already done actually tom. see my message to bavisoft. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
nope, that was the first harpy I ran into, she was across the room On 12/15/10, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ryan, Are you sure you were not poisoned at the time? If you are poisoned then it won't matter if any monsters are around or not. Your health will eventually drop to 0 and Angela will drop dead from the poison. Cheers! On 12/15/10, ryan chou ryan.chou1...@gmail.com wrote: hey thomas, while you're adding the game stuff, could you please check this? whenever I duck, sometimes I seem to take random damage, even if there is no monster in range of me example, once I ran into a room ducking, and died but nothing was trying to hit me --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Message to Bavisoft
I posted the following on the audiogames.net forum. While not the ultimatum talked about, I do hope it'll get a result, sinse I'm sick of this stupidity! Hello. After a recent discussion of your work on the audeasy list, I felt it was extremely important to bring certain urgent issues to your attention. Both of Your games have been very much appreciated in the past, and during the immediate time after release. however, increasingly, the opinion among members of the community is that bavisoft's behaviour and practices have been less and less reputable, and indeed it has now come to the point when a newcomer to audiogames is advised to steer clear of attempting to perchice your games. there are several reasons for this. firstly, is the business of people not receiving orders. There has been a long history of people not recieving their games on cd, or indeed having to wait periods of time upwards of 6 weeks to get them, (doubly bad in todays' world of high speed net connections). What makes this situation far worse, is the lack of any sort of contact method for bavisoft. For at least the last three to four years, the E-mail address sa...@bavisoft.com has consistantly bounced e-mails, thus leaving customers who wish to know the status of their orders with no way of contacting the company at all, (I in fact originally attempted to send this enquiry via E-mail myself, but my message produced a this address has a fatal error warning). then, there is Bavisoft's lack of even acnolidging the release of windows versions later than xp. With the release of windows Vista in 2007, and windows 7 a year later, people are experiencing extreme compatibility issues with games written for earlier versions of windows. This situation is only made the worse by the fact that all other developers of audio games, even those such as bsc games and Vip gameszone who are no longer actually producing titles (though they stil support their old games), have made the upgrades to their programs necessary to run on later windows versions. this brings me to Bavisoft's final, and most serious problem. The company has released no news, no word, not even a season's greetings for the past six years. Indeed, the only times Bavisoft has responded to any enquiry is when people have suggested your games should be made abandonware sinse you seem no longer to support them. This happens roughly once a year, in august of 2008, then in June of 2009. As players of audio games, we are all familiar with the amount of time it takes to develope titles. There has been a gap of two years betwene Gma games last three releases, and Usa games' title Mysteries of the ancients has been in developement for the past five years, while Draconis haven't released a game sinse 2006. We are also well aware that life, desasters or unforseen circumstances can very much get in the way of developement, as in fact it has in the case of usa games. however, in the cases of most audio game developers, there is at least some news, or at the least an occasional happy Christmas or halloween, to let people know that the company is stil selling and supporting their games and may, time permitting be able to produce a new title in future. In the case of bavisoft however, there is none of this. the company website has not been updated sinse 2004, and Bavisoft have said nothing to their players at all beyond please don't pirate our games and that only once a year. While I (both personally and in my capacity as moderator of audiogames.net), in no way condone game piracy, I do rather understand the feeling which some players have that if they cannot obtain Bavisoft's games by any other method, owing to unprocessed orders, and no company support via E-mail or similar, the games should be made abandonware so that people may play them. it is for this reason that i AM WRITING THIS APPEAL. It has been six years sinse the community at large has heard from bavisoft officially, people have not been able to obtain the games on cd nor to contact the company. so, please! give us some word, even if just happy christmas to let us know the company is stil running. It has also been suggested that Bavisoft strongly considder the following points: 1: While in 2000 and even 2004, 160 mb for a game was a large size, given modern connection speed this is no longer the case (sarah from pcs games is 120 mb already). Therefore, Bavisoft's games should be made perchiceable by download instead of cd. This would stop dead all problems associated with unfulfilled orders. 2: Bavisoft should obtain a working E-mail address and address any technical support or sales related questions. While gameplay questions are able to be handled on audiogames.net or similar forums or mailing lists, it is essential to build trust and maintain a good relationship with their customers that bavisoft make themselves contactable, as
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
hi, Can you make a recording about this game? I am not entering level two. Thanks. saygilar sevgiler. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Hi Ryan, Are you sure you were not poisoned at the time? If you are poisoned then it won't matter if any monsters are around or not. Your health will eventually drop to 0 and Angela will drop dead from the poison. Cheers! On 12/15/10, ryan chou ryan.chou1...@gmail.com wrote: hey thomas, while you're adding the game stuff, could you please check this? whenever I duck, sometimes I seem to take random damage, even if there is no monster in range of me example, once I ran into a room ducking, and died but nothing was trying to hit me --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ ESET NOD32 Antivirus Akýllý Güvenlik tarafýndan saðlanan bilgiler, virüs imza veritabaný sürümü: 5703 (20101214) __ Ýleti ESET NOD32 Antivirus Akýllý Güvenlik tarafýndan denetlendi. http://www.nod32.com.tr --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Thank you! I know they are probably retro but the puzzles sound clever and that kind of thing appeals to me more than say, shooting down spaceships. If anyone has recommendations for more modern games which challenges the mind but has a storyline, feel free to let me know. On 12/15/10, Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi I don't know what's up with them, they just seemed to have taken the lazy road and vannished completely with no reason for doing so. I don't know where you're based, but I thought rather than go through a possibley dodgey site I'd order the games from here. www.computerroomservices.co.uk If that link isn't right just google computer room services uk. The guy there is also totally blind and helped me out with buying the Bavisoft games. Both games are good if a little lacking in places and repeating of puzzles gets a bit tedious, but sound quality and voice acting are both really good. - Original Message - From: Tiffany Kim tiffanyki...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:24 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hello Everyone, I was listening to some reviews that Kelly Sapergia did of Grizly Gulch and Chillingham, the two games put out by Bavisoft. I was interested in purchasing them, so I navigated to their website. Credit card processing seems to be down, but the Paypal link still seems to work. I know the games are quite old (Windows 98, anyone?), so I thought I'd write to the salespeople there but my E-mail to the address given bounced. I'm wondering if anyone knows whether they are still up and running, and if so, are these games still available for purchase? Thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Trukz Is Shutting Down
Hi Everyone, I just wanted to write and let you all know that one of the games from audiogames.net's database, trukz.com is going to be shutting down on January 31, 2011. The site states the following: We are very sorry to announce that Trukz will be closing from 31st January 2011. Please take time to read the full announcement in the forums here: http://forums.joltonline.com/announcement.php?f=1570a=146 In summary, they feel that the game is no longer popular and they would like to focus their attention on other games they have developed. Just thought I'd let everyone know! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
It certainly seems like they have. From the Googling I have done, it appears that games ordered from them take months to arrive if they don't get lost in the post. Considering that their E-mail address for sales inquiries is bouncing, I'll give Computer Room Services UK a holler. If it turns out I can't run the games on my machine, I'll just abandon the idea of purchasing those games and think about other options. Maybe Sarah and the Castle of Witchcraft and Wizardry in lieu of Chillingham and one of the wild west pinball tables from Draconis instead of Grizzly Gulch. - Original Message - From: Shiny protector muhamme...@googlemail.com To: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com,Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 17:50:54 - Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Don't bother, mate. They have just vanished completely without any traces. So, just forget about them. - Original Message - From: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi I don't know what's up with them, they just seemed to have taken the lazy road and vannished completely with no reason for doing so. I don't know where you're based, but I thought rather than go through a possibley dodgey site I'd order the games from here. www.computerroomservices.co.uk If that link isn't right just google computer room services uk. The guy there is also totally blind and helped me out with buying the Bavisoft games. Both games are good if a little lacking in places and repeating of puzzles gets a bit tedious, but sound quality and voice acting are both really good. - Original Message - From: Tiffany Kim tiffanyki...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:24 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hello Everyone, I was listening to some reviews that Kelly Sapergia did of Grizly Gulch and Chillingham, the two games put out by Bavisoft. I was interested in purchasing them, so I navigated to their website. Credit card processing seems to be down, but the Paypal link still seems to work. I know the games are quite old (Windows 98, anyone?), so I thought I'd write to the salespeople there but my E-mail to the address given bounced. I'm wondering if anyone knows whether they are still up and running, and if so, are these games still available for purchase? Thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
To receive no response from the company except when you suggest that they make their games abandonware is a pretty sorry state indeed. I did locate an E-mail address when I clicked on the Paypal link, but I wouldn't want to buy the games without knowing the address was a valid one. For kicks and giggles, I'll write to it and see if I get a bounce or response, but I won't keep my hopes up. Apparently, at the UK site that was recommended, the games are 30 pounds apiece. I'm in the US and don't know the conversion rate, but from what everyone has been saying, I'd be better off using that money to take a correspondence course on programming so I could try developing my own games, lol. Learning how to do something like that has been on my to-do list. Does anyone know where I can go to get started? Might be a project I undertake next year! On 12/15/10, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: Very true. As I just said, I'm entertaining the thought, but am not going to do it... I'm not as crooked as some people out there. But I do agree... if someone was to actually do it, it wouldn't be a good precedent to set. But that doesn't change the fact that trying to order directly through them or contact them via email is pretty much a waste of time... --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
Hi, I suppose so. I've released audio trailers in the past. Although, I was planning on waiting until beta 17 is stable before doing any more trailers. Smile. On 12/16/10, burak burakyuksek...@gmail.com wrote: hi, Can you make a recording about this game? I am not entering level two. Thanks. saygilar sevgiler. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
Hi, Well, that's weird then. I can find nothing in the code to account for this problem. Absolutely nothing. Smile. On 12/15/10, ryan chou ryan.chou1...@gmail.com wrote: nope, that was the first harpy I ran into, she was across the room --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Trukz Is Shutting Down
Same thing happened to NationStates 2. Thing is, the game is popular. They just wanna focus on their graphical games, like Playboy Manager and they're FB games. - Original Message - From: Tiffany Kim tiffanyki...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 12:04 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Trukz Is Shutting Down Hi Everyone, I just wanted to write and let you all know that one of the games from audiogames.net's database, trukz.com is going to be shutting down on January 31, 2011. The site states the following: We are very sorry to announce that Trukz will be closing from 31st January 2011. Please take time to read the full announcement in the forums here: http://forums.joltonline.com/announcement.php?f=1570a=146 In summary, they feel that the game is no longer popular and they would like to focus their attention on other games they have developed. Just thought I'd let everyone know! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Trukz Is Shutting Down
that's ashame i thought it was really popular at least it was for the short time i played it. Ian McNamara --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
agreed, if the games were completely terrible I wouldn't bother at all. Beware the Grue! dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, Okay, I just read it and I think it was well written. Do let us know if you hear anything from Bavisoft. Itis a shame they are letting things come to this point, because I always felt that the acting in their titles is great. The sounds aren't bad either. The games are a tad dull for my standards, but still they shouldn't just abandon their customers without any reason as they have done. Smile. On 12/16/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: I did post a copy to the list, but just in case you want to read the original topic on the forum (and any responses from bavisoft), see http ://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=4495 As I said in that message though, please don't reply to the topic directly, sinse I want to leave the way open for Bavisoft to say their piece. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, Umm...Where is that messsage? I'd like to read. Smile. On 12/16/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: already done actually tom. see my message to bavisoft. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi Tiffany, Well, if you are serious about writing your own games there are definitely a couple of routes you can take. If you don't mind purchasing an accessible game engine like BGT Philip Bennefall has been developing a general purpose game engine for the VI community called BGT. The nice thing about BGT is that he has used an off the shelf scripting language such as Angelscript and wrapped it around a C++ engine that supports Microsoft Sapi, DirectX, etc allowing you to focus on programming your games without worrying about all the really low-level programming like handling things like audio, input, and TTS support from scratch. For a totally new programmer BGT is the best way to go if you are looking at any sort of introduction to programming accessible games. However, if you are interested in a general purpose programming language like C++, Python, or Java and don't mind learning the nuts and bolts of programming games from scratch there is an online programming service I use http://safari.oreilly.com that is a commercial programming resource with hundreds of e-books on anything and everything under the sun. If you pay for a subscription for the Safari service you can litterally go from a self-taught beginner to advanced programmer in a fairly short amount of time, and unlike a classroom environment you can go at your own pace. Cheers! On 12/15/10, Tiffany Kim tiffanyki...@gmail.com wrote: To receive no response from the company except when you suggest that they make their games abandonware is a pretty sorry state indeed. I did locate an E-mail address when I clicked on the Paypal link, but I wouldn't want to buy the games without knowing the address was a valid one. For kicks and giggles, I'll write to it and see if I get a bounce or response, but I won't keep my hopes up. Apparently, at the UK site that was recommended, the games are 30 pounds apiece. I'm in the US and don't know the conversion rate, but from what everyone has been saying, I'd be better off using that money to take a correspondence course on programming so I could try developing my own games, lol. Learning how to do something like that has been on my to-do list. Does anyone know where I can go to get started? Might be a project I undertake next year! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi Tiffany, Have you tried my game Mysteries of the Ancients? It is in beta testing right now, but it is a mixture of puzzle elements, treasure hunting, as well as the ocational mythical monster or two to kill. You can find it at http://www.usagamesinteractive.com/mota.php Cheers! On 12/15/10, Tiffany Kim tiffanyki...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you! I know they are probably retro but the puzzles sound clever and that kind of thing appeals to me more than say, shooting down spaceships. If anyone has recommendations for more modern games which challenges the mind but has a storyline, feel free to let me know. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Message to Bavisoft
very good. hopefully we will get something from them now. Ian McNamara --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
3 words Tom GO, FOR, IT!! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi, Ooh...That gives me an extremely wicked thought. Let me just say I know a way that would seriously light a fire under their collective butts and might knock a little sense into Bavisoft. Just for kicks what if someone got on the audiogames.net forums and said if Bavisoft doesn't begin answering their e-mail, correct shipping order problems, etc person x is going to simply upload their games somewhere and give them away for free. Yeah, I know, it is pretty low, but I'm sure they would be climbing out of their collective holes to sscream for people not to do that too them. The obvious reply would be for them to A, be able to be contacted via their support addresses, and B, that they disclose any and all projects they are working on immediately. Otherwise we don't believe you and Bavisoft doesn't exist. Now, wouldn't that burn their butts. Lol! I'm not suggesting that anyone actually do this, but wouldn't it be funny? Could you imagine them getting bent out of shape because a number of their customers just revolted and plastered Bavisoft's games over the internet, because Bavisoft never answeres their e-mail etc? Cheers! On 12/15/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: A scam no. The company did certainly exist and sold games in fact I bought both titles in 2006 and stil own them, and while on audiogames.net we have heard of people not recieving orders, there are undoubtedly people who have. that being said, why the company is neither answering E-mails nor giving any communication beyond don't make our games abandonware even to those who's orders go missing is beyond me, to say nothing about not even a mention of windows 7 compatibility or indeed any news from them at all. I'm sorry to say, the only real way to communicate with bavisoft is post a topic on audiogames.net saying that their games should be stuck up somewhere as abandonware for people to download freely, sinse this is the only time we here a peep out of them. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi Lori, Smile. Sorry, I can't really do that. Being both a game developer myself and a moderator of a respected gaming list it wouldn't be a good president to begin making threats like that to a fellow game developer even if they deserve such a fate. I merely was thinking of a what if type situation. I wasn't at all serious about doing something like that personally. Although, it is tempting seeing as I'm sick of their lack of response and general disregard for their customers. Cheers! On 12/16/10, Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: 3 words Tom GO, FOR, IT!! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
hello, I am new hear. Can you post it again? saygilar sevgiler. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Hi, I suppose so. I've released audio trailers in the past. Although, I was planning on waiting until beta 17 is stable before doing any more trailers. Smile. On 12/16/10, burak burakyuksek...@gmail.com wrote: hi, Can you make a recording about this game? I am not entering level two. Thanks. saygilar sevgiler. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ ESET NOD32 Antivirus Akýllý Güvenlik tarafýndan saðlanan bilgiler, virüs imza veritabaný sürümü: 5706 (20101215) __ Ýleti ESET NOD32 Antivirus Akýllý Güvenlik tarafýndan denetlendi. http://www.nod32.com.tr --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
You go for it Smile - Original Message - From: Tiffany Kim tiffanyki...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? To receive no response from the company except when you suggest that they make their games abandonware is a pretty sorry state indeed. I did locate an E-mail address when I clicked on the Paypal link, but I wouldn't want to buy the games without knowing the address was a valid one. For kicks and giggles, I'll write to it and see if I get a bounce or response, but I won't keep my hopes up. Apparently, at the UK site that was recommended, the games are 30 pounds apiece. I'm in the US and don't know the conversion rate, but from what everyone has been saying, I'd be better off using that money to take a correspondence course on programming so I could try developing my own games, lol. Learning how to do something like that has been on my to-do list. Does anyone know where I can go to get started? Might be a project I undertake next year! On 12/15/10, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: Very true. As I just said, I'm entertaining the thought, but am not going to do it... I'm not as crooked as some people out there. But I do agree... if someone was to actually do it, it wouldn't be a good precedent to set. But that doesn't change the fact that trying to order directly through them or contact them via email is pretty much a waste of time... --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mysteries of the syth
Hi, At the moment I wasn't planning on it. However, let's actually get a game up and working before we begin adding extra force powers and abilities to the game. Smile. On 12/13/10, ryan chou ryan.chou1...@gmail.com wrote: hey thomas, just wondering, but will mara be able to use force blast? that's a cool move --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Thank You Thomas
Thanks Thomas! For all the useful information. I just downloaded the beta of the BG Toolkit. Now, we'll just have to see whether I have the patience for this. A friend tried to teach me Python once and I managed to do the beginner exercise where you get hello world! to show up on the screen, but that was the extent of my venture into programming. I don't know what the laws are regarding making games, but I was wondering if I could try to make accessible versions of the ones I used to play as a kid with sighted help. If I do go through with this, being an entrepreneur isn't my gameplan, just making games that appeal to me and sharing them with the community if they are into the genres I like, lol. Things from the MECC (maybe it's the Learning Company now) were what I enjoyed, like the Oregon Trail and the Amazon Trail. I remember the developers who made Freedom Millionaire were going to make Freedom Trail but as far as I know, that didn't ever pan out. So I'd like to take a crack at a game simulating the westward movement someday. Anyway, I'm hoping that I'll have more patience this time around, and actually do more than Hello World! I actually haven't tried the game you mentioned (Mysteries of the Ancients?) I'll have to give it a shot. I have been trying various ones all day to see which ones might suit. Soundoku (I found it maddening to keep track of all those numbers in my head, still not sure how everyone else manages it), BG Crossword (Lol it makes me realize just how little knowledge I possess), and Mud Splat (a great game, and a bit addicting but may get dull soon!). So any and all game recommendations are most certainly welcome. Free or for pay, I don't mind which, so long as they have some replay value and are a bit more than hack and slash. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
Hello Everyone, Well, as promised, I did write to the address that was given when I clicked on Bavisoft's Paypal link. From the response, it sounds as though someone is at the other end, but I was unsure about whether I should go ahead and plunk down my money (all I found out was these games will still work on my machine), not whether the company was still able to process orders. See below. Tiffany Kim tiffanyki...@gmail.com Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 5:41 PM To: j...@bavisoft.com To Whom This May Concern, I recently listened to Kelly John Sapergia's reviews of Grizzly Gulch and Chillingham, and was interested in ordering both of these games. I tried writing to your sales address, but the E-mail bounced twice. I found this address when I clicked on the Paypal button. I know the games were developed back in 2004, so before I order, I would like to know if they will run on a machine running Windows XP with service pack III installed. Please let me know if this is possible. Thank you. Sincerely, Tiffany Kim Jeff Gibbons j...@bavisoft.com Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 4:13 AM To: Tiffany Kim tiffanyki...@gmail.com Tiffany, Thanks for writing! Both games will definitely run on XP with service pack 3. Please let me know if there are any other questions I can answer. Thanks, Jeff Gibbons President, Bavisoft --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
You might look into BGT, BLastbay Game Toolkit in case you don't know. It's only in Beta stages right now but it's shaping up to be a powerful development utility. The language may seem complicated at first (and I've in no way begun to master it), but once you've read te tutorial through thoroughly a few times and started playing with it it's actually a lot of fun. It basically takes the down and dirty nitty gritty stuff and does that part for you. Basically what you have to do is tell it what you want to do and how you want to do it. Philip Bennefall has been working on this for the better part of a year. The utility will cst something even to develop free games, unless of course you planned on making those particular titles open source, but the prices are reasonable in my book. I own the light version, which allows for the development of as many free itles as you wish. Then you have the Single License version which will cost about a hundred bucks. That allows you to develop one comercial title, though if it's a good one it'll more than cover the 400 dollars cost of the Unlimited version, which of course allows you to develop as many free or commercial games as your heart desires. If you're at all interested you can check out www.blastbay.com to download it and start playing with it. Just don't do what I tried to do and jump right in and start trying to develop a game right off the bat LOL. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Tiffany Kim tiffanyki...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? To receive no response from the company except when you suggest that they make their games abandonware is a pretty sorry state indeed. I did locate an E-mail address when I clicked on the Paypal link, but I wouldn't want to buy the games without knowing the address was a valid one. For kicks and giggles, I'll write to it and see if I get a bounce or response, but I won't keep my hopes up. Apparently, at the UK site that was recommended, the games are 30 pounds apiece. I'm in the US and don't know the conversion rate, but from what everyone has been saying, I'd be better off using that money to take a correspondence course on programming so I could try developing my own games, lol. Learning how to do something like that has been on my to-do list. Does anyone know where I can go to get started? Might be a project I undertake next year! On 12/15/10, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: Very true. As I just said, I'm entertaining the thought, but am not going to do it... I'm not as crooked as some people out there. But I do agree... if someone was to actually do it, it wouldn't be a good precedent to set. But that doesn't change the fact that trying to order directly through them or contact them via email is pretty much a waste of time... --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
Wow. I'm a little surprised considering their usual lack of response to people. I was fairly certain that Jeff had fallen off the face of the planet or something or maybe wound up in the Springfield Mystery Spot, for any Simpsons watchers on list. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Tiffany Kim tiffanyki...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 6:27 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry Hello Everyone, Well, as promised, I did write to the address that was given when I clicked on Bavisoft's Paypal link. From the response, it sounds as though someone is at the other end, but I was unsure about whether I should go ahead and plunk down my money (all I found out was these games will still work on my machine), not whether the company was still able to process orders. See below. Tiffany Kim tiffanyki...@gmail.com Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 5:41 PM To: j...@bavisoft.com To Whom This May Concern, I recently listened to Kelly John Sapergia's reviews of Grizzly Gulch and Chillingham, and was interested in ordering both of these games. I tried writing to your sales address, but the E-mail bounced twice. I found this address when I clicked on the Paypal button. I know the games were developed back in 2004, so before I order, I would like to know if they will run on a machine running Windows XP with service pack III installed. Please let me know if this is possible. Thank you. Sincerely, Tiffany Kim Jeff Gibbons j...@bavisoft.com Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 4:13 AM To: Tiffany Kim tiffanyki...@gmail.com Tiffany, Thanks for writing! Both games will definitely run on XP with service pack 3. Please let me know if there are any other questions I can answer. Thanks, Jeff Gibbons President, Bavisoft --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
Hi Tiffany you might try emailing him and asking where the heck they think they've been for the last 6 years! Smile - Original Message - From: Tiffany Kim tiffanyki...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 1:27 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry Hello Everyone, Well, as promised, I did write to the address that was given when I clicked on Bavisoft's Paypal link. From the response, it sounds as though someone is at the other end, but I was unsure about whether I should go ahead and plunk down my money (all I found out was these games will still work on my machine), not whether the company was still able to process orders. See below. Tiffany Kim tiffanyki...@gmail.com Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 5:41 PM To: j...@bavisoft.com To Whom This May Concern, I recently listened to Kelly John Sapergia's reviews of Grizzly Gulch and Chillingham, and was interested in ordering both of these games. I tried writing to your sales address, but the E-mail bounced twice. I found this address when I clicked on the Paypal button. I know the games were developed back in 2004, so before I order, I would like to know if they will run on a machine running Windows XP with service pack III installed. Please let me know if this is possible. Thank you. Sincerely, Tiffany Kim Jeff Gibbons j...@bavisoft.com Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 4:13 AM To: Tiffany Kim tiffanyki...@gmail.com Tiffany, Thanks for writing! Both games will definitely run on XP with service pack 3. Please let me know if there are any other questions I can answer. Thanks, Jeff Gibbons President, Bavisoft --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
i knew they would work on xp but the real question is will they work on vista or 7. On Dec 16, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Tiffany Kim wrote: Hello Everyone, Well, as promised, I did write to the address that was given when I clicked on Bavisoft's Paypal link. From the response, it sounds as though someone is at the other end, but I was unsure about whether I should go ahead and plunk down my money (all I found out was these games will still work on my machine), not whether the company was still able to process orders. See below. Tiffany Kim tiffanyki...@gmail.com Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 5:41 PM To: j...@bavisoft.com To Whom This May Concern, I recently listened to Kelly John Sapergia's reviews of Grizzly Gulch and Chillingham, and was interested in ordering both of these games. I tried writing to your sales address, but the E-mail bounced twice. I found this address when I clicked on the Paypal button. I know the games were developed back in 2004, so before I order, I would like to know if they will run on a machine running Windows XP with service pack III installed. Please let me know if this is possible. Thank you. Sincerely, Tiffany Kim Jeff Gibbons j...@bavisoft.com Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 4:13 AM To: Tiffany Kim tiffanyki...@gmail.com Tiffany, Thanks for writing! Both games will definitely run on XP with service pack 3. Please let me know if there are any other questions I can answer. Thanks, Jeff Gibbons President, Bavisoft --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
i guess the only reason why he responded is because she emailed his address directly. On Dec 16, 2010, at 8:48 AM, Bryan Peterson wrote: Wow. I'm a little surprised considering their usual lack of response to people. I was fairly certain that Jeff had fallen off the face of the planet or something or maybe wound up in the Springfield Mystery Spot, for any Simpsons watchers on list. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Tiffany Kim tiffanyki...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 6:27 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry Hello Everyone, Well, as promised, I did write to the address that was given when I clicked on Bavisoft's Paypal link. From the response, it sounds as though someone is at the other end, but I was unsure about whether I should go ahead and plunk down my money (all I found out was these games will still work on my machine), not whether the company was still able to process orders. See below. Tiffany Kim tiffanyki...@gmail.com Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 5:41 PM To: j...@bavisoft.com To Whom This May Concern, I recently listened to Kelly John Sapergia's reviews of Grizzly Gulch and Chillingham, and was interested in ordering both of these games. I tried writing to your sales address, but the E-mail bounced twice. I found this address when I clicked on the Paypal button. I know the games were developed back in 2004, so before I order, I would like to know if they will run on a machine running Windows XP with service pack III installed. Please let me know if this is possible. Thank you. Sincerely, Tiffany Kim Jeff Gibbons j...@bavisoft.com Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 4:13 AM To: Tiffany Kim tiffanyki...@gmail.com Tiffany, Thanks for writing! Both games will definitely run on XP with service pack 3. Please let me know if there are any other questions I can answer. Thanks, Jeff Gibbons President, Bavisoft --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question about Pipe2 Blast Chamber
hi lori disable those functions i have lots of toshiba features the good thing is my laptop has a numbpad! -- From: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:49 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] question about Pipe2 Blast Chamber Hi, ok here is my gripe with the game pipe. I have got this really anoying thing on my laptop for activating the f number keys. I've to press a key at the bottom half of my keyboard then the actual number key for it to work properly, so it makes killing spiders a bit of a tricky thing. So I thought I'd have a go at getting a gamepad or joystick. My question now though is what's the best one? the last time I saw a joystick was the really old ones for nintendo and for the sonic games, and how would a joystick work? It doesn't have enough keys, for example it might work once to kill spider 1, but what happens when I reach 6, is it just 6 presses? I'd be glad of any advice. Thanks from Lori --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Lets do it. Me and Hayden. Lets send the message, and we'll find out soon enough whether they scream for the audio gamers because they felt extremely sorry, or lets see if they've vanished into the Sahara desert. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Thoams, Lol...we mustn't be too nasty to the good people of Bavisoft! But seriously, that's almost a good idea; we'd see if they're just hiding or if they're really gone, in which case...upload away! Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:51 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi, Ooh...That gives me an extremely wicked thought. Let me just say I know a way that would seriously light a fire under their collective butts and might knock a little sense into Bavisoft. Just for kicks what if someone got on the audiogames.net forums and said if Bavisoft doesn't begin answering their e-mail, correct shipping order problems, etc person x is going to simply upload their games somewhere and give them away for free. Yeah, I know, it is pretty low, but I'm sure they would be climbing out of their collective holes to sscream for people not to do that too them. The obvious reply would be for them to A, be able to be contacted via their support addresses, and B, that they disclose any and all projects they are working on immediately. Otherwise we don't believe you and Bavisoft doesn't exist. Now, wouldn't that burn their butts. Lol! I'm not suggesting that anyone actually do this, but wouldn't it be funny? Could you imagine them getting bent out of shape because a number of their customers just revolted and plastered Bavisoft's games over the internet, because Bavisoft never answeres their e-mail etc? Cheers! On 12/15/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: A scam no. The company did certainly exist and sold games in fact I bought both titles in 2006 and stil own them, and while on audiogames.net we have heard of people not recieving orders, there are undoubtedly people who have. that being said, why the company is neither answering E-mails nor giving any communication beyond don't make our games abandonware even to those who's orders go missing is beyond me, to say nothing about not even a mention of windows 7 compatibility or indeed any news from them at all. I'm sorry to say, the only real way to communicate with bavisoft is post a topic on audiogames.net saying that their games should be stuck up somewhere as abandonware for people to download freely, sinse this is the only time we here a peep out of them. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] starwar game questions
Fair enough, I guess. lol. I haven't had that much luck though... and I don't mind ebooks, so there you have it. At 02:20 AM 16/12/2010, you wrote: E books aren't really of help to me unfortunately, sinse I have no braille printer or braille display, and would prefer not to have to read with a synth voice if it can be helped. I actually have found various starwars audio books, so the situation certainly isn't that bad. Beware the Grtue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:51 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] starwar game questions Well that's fair. But there are also a lot of ebook collections around if you take time to look for them. I have one that has I think a hundred or so books, in text format. At 04:31 PM 15/12/2010, you wrote: Well, at least in the case of starwars, it's a matter of as chronological as I can get access too. for the old republic stuff, i started with knights of the old republic and dark lords of the sith, the two audio plays, then went on to cloak of deception and shadow hunter. simply going on the basis of what is available to me, I've thus far got up roughly to the start of a new hope. I know I have missed some books, for instance several of the trials of the jedi novels (which is a shame sinse I rather enjoy that series), but this is just what happens when working from audio, - which is in it's way as much of a disadvantage as lack of ability to read commics in terms of availability, especially on this side of the Atlantic (the only starwars novels the rnib talking book library have ever done are the three thrawn books). I'll also admit that sinse I'm coming to the expanded universe of starwars very late, sinse though i grew up with the films i have only just managed to read some of the other materials, I was uncertain as to where to begin so decided to begin at the beginning, or at any wrate as close to it as availability would let me get. Beware the Grue! dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:13 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] starwar game questions Hi Dark, Wo! If you want to read something like Star Wars, such as every book in chronological order, that would be a lot of reading. How far back to the beginning are we talking. As I said in one of my posts there are several different eras. We could go clear back in to the Knights of the Old Republic era which happens thousands of years before the Clone Wars. You Could start with something like Cloak of Deception which happens about 20 years before the Clone Wars and read from there etc. Either way if you want to go back to the beginning we are talking a couple dozen books before we even get to Star Wars a New Hope which was the first book and movie released. Then, from there there is at least 40 or 50 books that happens after A New Hope. It would take you a good year or two to read all that. Plus I don't mean to disappoint you, but not all the history is in books. We have the Star Wars Clone Wars cartoons that has a lot of cannon information not found in the books per say. Also some story lines found in the Star Wars comic books has a habit of being cannonized at some point as well. For example, Luke and Mara's wedding is never covered in any book, but was covered in the Star Wars comics, and obviously became cannonized as historical events in the Star Wars universe. In another case Lumiya, Darth Vader's apprentice, shows up in the Star Wars comics initially. For several years she remained nothing more and nothing less than a comic book villen. However, once she was used in the Legacy of the Force series suddenly she was ccannonized, and became a part of the Star Wars history thus making all the comic books in that series historical. Since the comics aren't exactly accessible we are at a disadvantage as we can't get the entire chronology through books and movies. Cheers! On 12/15/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: to be honest charlese, while I suspect this is the case (the thrawn books were the first I read but I had no trouble placing them time wise being as I do know the films), I am a bit of a stickler for reading books or watching series and films in the correct order. I have to begin at the beginning and go through to the end, and if there are spinoffs or the like I have to do them in their correct place if I can. for instance, I am about to watch babylon 5 again. I bought the big box set, containing all five series, pluss the spinoff series crusade, pluss all the films. When i originally watched the series back in 2006, I went on wikipedia and specifically looked up after which episodes the various extras came, even down to breaking off a series in the middle to watch one film in one case. so, while I understand the
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
We'll probably get into big trouble. But honestly, just disappearing in a flash of torchlight is not on. Ok, lets say Jason doesn't post to the entombed list that mutch, but he still keeps us informed, doesn't he? But someone has to do it not on the audio games forom, just private emails. Don't know if their inbox is bambaseled because of so mutch emails. Lol. But as I said, its disrespectful. And I'd understand why Dark would delete it immediately, cause who ever said it would be flaimed very badly and besides, Dark will be in huge trouble. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:10 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? funnily enough Tom, I've been cconsiddering doing that very thing myself, issuing them with an ultimatum. shape up or officially go bust, no more of this idiotic hanging about. There are only two reasons why i haven't. firstly, I don't want to get audiogames.net into any sort of legal trouble. Secondly, as a moderator I must considder that we have a fairly strict policy about piracy. While rules have occasionally been bent for people posting links to old or abandoned games such as code factory's, (though this is kept on a strictly unofficial basis and out of the database or news), this would be directly placing free copies of at least nominally available games, which we really can't condone. Afterall, that potentially opens the way for some scumbag to then turn up and say Well, company x hasn't released games for a while, so here are cracked versions Finally, suppose Bavisoft then said oh fine! you ungreatful bunch, the games are now abandonware, we're going to quit developement forever and retire to the country where we'll spend time cursing audio game players for all iternity for destroying our ambition! We were actually working on chillingham 2 who's developement was stopped because our lead programmer got his legs bitten off by a shark while sunbathing, and our second programmers' father went mad and thought he was a horse so she needed to go home and provide him with large supplies of oats, but you'll never see it now! methinks I'd feel a trifle guilty. Btw, anyone tries this on the forum, and I'll have to delete the topic. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi, Ooh...That gives me an extremely wicked thought. Let me just say I know a way that would seriously light a fire under their collective butts and might knock a little sense into Bavisoft. Just for kicks what if someone got on the audiogames.net forums and said if Bavisoft doesn't begin answering their e-mail, correct shipping order problems, etc person x is going to simply upload their games somewhere and give them away for free. Yeah, I know, it is pretty low, but I'm sure they would be climbing out of their collective holes to sscream for people not to do that too them. The obvious reply would be for them to A, be able to be contacted via their support addresses, and B, that they disclose any and all projects they are working on immediately. Otherwise we don't believe you and Bavisoft doesn't exist. Now, wouldn't that burn their butts. Lol! I'm not suggesting that anyone actually do this, but wouldn't it be funny? Could you imagine them getting bent out of shape because a number of their customers just revolted and plastered Bavisoft's games over the internet, because Bavisoft never answeres their e-mail etc? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Well, I wouldn't allow that in the BPC discussion list either. I'm just imagining their reaction. Please, don't do it, we will start to develop again! But I have developed a hunch like forensic scientists do, and my suspicion is that the reason that they are not developing is because they got flamed on Damions list. And BTW when was this? 6 years ago? Why 6 years? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, Yeah, I know. Being a moderator myself I couldn't do anything like that myself, nor allow anyone to do it here on Audyssey either. I was just thinking it would be funny if someone did actually give them an ultimatom of get with the program or just abandon the games altogether. None of this we are working on something, but won't tell you what it is, or we don't read or e-mail because of spam crap. There comes a time when a company like that is just asking for someone to pirate them out of existance or something. HOwever, straight people like you and I will try to honor them even if they don't really deserve it just on principle. Smile. On 12/15/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: funnily enough Tom, I've been cconsiddering doing that very thing myself, issuing them with an ultimatum. shape up or officially go bust, no more of this idiotic hanging about. There are only two reasons why i haven't. firstly, I don't want to get audiogames.net into any sort of legal trouble. Secondly, as a moderator I must considder that we have a fairly strict policy about piracy. While rules have occasionally been bent for people posting links to old or abandoned games such as code factory's, (though this is kept on a strictly unofficial basis and out of the database or news), this would be directly placing free copies of at least nominally available games, which we really can't condone. Afterall, that potentially opens the way for some scumbag to then turn up and say Well, company x hasn't released games for a while, so here are cracked versions Finally, suppose Bavisoft then said oh fine! you ungreatful bunch, the games are now abandonware, we're going to quit developement forever and retire to the country where we'll spend time cursing audio game players for all iternity for destroying our ambition! We were actually working on chillingham 2 who's developement was stopped because our lead programmer got his legs bitten off by a shark while sunbathing, and our second programmers' father went mad and thought he was a horse so she needed to go home and provide him with large supplies of oats, but you'll never see it now! methinks I'd feel a trifle guilty. Btw, anyone tries this on the forum, and I'll have to delete the topic. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Message to Bavisoft
Well-written, Dark. Now let's see what happens. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
If you get attacked by a harpie... it can happen. Harpies appear to be poisonous. At 04:15 AM 16/12/2010, you wrote: Hi, Well, that's weird then. I can find nothing in the code to account for this problem. Absolutely nothing. Smile. On 12/15/10, ryan chou ryan.chou1...@gmail.com wrote: nope, that was the first harpy I ran into, she was across the room --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
that was the first room of the game with the rope I ran in ducking, and literally got hit by nothing there was a harpy, but it was way out of range On 12/16/10, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: If you get attacked by a harpie... it can happen. Harpies appear to be poisonous. At 04:15 AM 16/12/2010, you wrote: Hi, Well, that's weird then. I can find nothing in the code to account for this problem. Absolutely nothing. Smile. On 12/15/10, ryan chou ryan.chou1...@gmail.com wrote: nope, that was the first harpy I ran into, she was across the room --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi Dark, I read your message and it seems reasonable. How ever, there is no response from them. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? I did post a copy to the list, but just in case you want to read the original topic on the forum (and any responses from bavisoft), see http ://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=4495 As I said in that message though, please don't reply to the topic directly, sinse I want to leave the way open for Bavisoft to say their piece. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, Umm...Where is that messsage? I'd like to read. Smile. On 12/16/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: already done actually tom. see my message to bavisoft. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Thanks Dark, I would abandan my plan. I'd just leive my mouth closed, and see how Bavisoft take it. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? I did post a copy to the list, but just in case you want to read the original topic on the forum (and any responses from bavisoft), see http ://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=4495 As I said in that message though, please don't reply to the topic directly, sinse I want to leave the way open for Bavisoft to say their piece. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, Umm...Where is that messsage? I'd like to read. Smile. On 12/16/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: already done actually tom. see my message to bavisoft. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Message to Bavisoft
I am supportive of you Dark. - Original Message - From: Ian McNamara ianandri...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Message to Bavisoft very good. hopefully we will get something from them now. Ian McNamara --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Shouldn't expect them to respond that soon... it'll come eventually. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
I've heard they will but sketchily at best. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Brandon Misch bmisch2...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 7:17 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry i knew they would work on xp but the real question is will they work on vista or 7. On Dec 16, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Tiffany Kim wrote: Hello Everyone, Well, as promised, I did write to the address that was given when I clicked on Bavisoft's Paypal link. From the response, it sounds as though someone is at the other end, but I was unsure about whether I should go ahead and plunk down my money (all I found out was these games will still work on my machine), not whether the company was still able to process orders. See below. Tiffany Kim tiffanyki...@gmail.com Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 5:41 PM To: j...@bavisoft.com To Whom This May Concern, I recently listened to Kelly John Sapergia's reviews of Grizzly Gulch and Chillingham, and was interested in ordering both of these games. I tried writing to your sales address, but the E-mail bounced twice. I found this address when I clicked on the Paypal button. I know the games were developed back in 2004, so before I order, I would like to know if they will run on a machine running Windows XP with service pack III installed. Please let me know if this is possible. Thank you. Sincerely, Tiffany Kim Jeff Gibbons j...@bavisoft.com Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 4:13 AM To: Tiffany Kim tiffanyki...@gmail.com Tiffany, Thanks for writing! Both games will definitely run on XP with service pack 3. Please let me know if there are any other questions I can answer. Thanks, Jeff Gibbons President, Bavisoft --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Message to Bavisoft
I agree. Very well written and well thought out. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Message to Bavisoft Well-written, Dark. Now let's see what happens. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
He only just posted Muhamed. Give it time for Pete's sake. Even people who genuinely want to respond to customers' queries can't do it magically and instantaneously. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Shiny protector muhamme...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, I read your message and it seems reasonable. How ever, there is no response from them. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? I did post a copy to the list, but just in case you want to read the original topic on the forum (and any responses from bavisoft), see http ://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=4495 As I said in that message though, please don't reply to the topic directly, sinse I want to leave the way open for Bavisoft to say their piece. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, Umm...Where is that messsage? I'd like to read. Smile. On 12/16/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: already done actually tom. see my message to bavisoft. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
Hi Tiffany, Well, myricles never sease. I'm glad you actually succeeded to contact someone at Bavisoft. Most of us can't get anyone to respond and feel shut out. Smile. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
How about we all use the addressed she used? that one seems to be working. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry Hi Tiffany, Well, myricles never sease. I'm glad you actually succeeded to contact someone at Bavisoft. Most of us can't get anyone to respond and feel shut out. Smile. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
I very fun and ornery thought, and I would like to see the end result, although I'll bet you, as a game developer, would not actually do it. Darn! (grin) --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi, Ooh...That gives me an extremely wicked thought. Let me just say I know a way that would seriously light a fire under their collective butts and might knock a little sense into Bavisoft. Just for kicks what if someone got on the audiogames.net forums and said if Bavisoft doesn't begin answering their e-mail, correct shipping order problems, etc person x is going to simply upload their games somewhere and give them away for free. Yeah, I know, it is pretty low, but I'm sure they would be climbing out of their collective holes to sscream for people not to do that too them. The obvious reply would be for them to A, be able to be contacted via their support addresses, and B, that they disclose any and all projects they are working on immediately. Otherwise we don't believe you and Bavisoft doesn't exist. Now, wouldn't that burn their butts. Lol! I'm not suggesting that anyone actually do this, but wouldn't it be funny? Could you imagine them getting bent out of shape because a number of their customers just revolted and plastered Bavisoft's games over the internet, because Bavisoft never answeres their e-mail etc? Cheers! On 12/15/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: A scam no. The company did certainly exist and sold games in fact I bought both titles in 2006 and stil own them, and while on audiogames.net we have heard of people not recieving orders, there are undoubtedly people who have. that being said, why the company is neither answering E-mails nor giving any communication beyond don't make our games abandonware even to those who's orders go missing is beyond me, to say nothing about not even a mention of windows 7 compatibility or indeed any news from them at all. I'm sorry to say, the only real way to communicate with bavisoft is post a topic on audiogames.net saying that their games should be stuck up somewhere as abandonware for people to download freely, sinse this is the only time we here a peep out of them. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi Charles, You got that right. As a game developer I respect other game developer's and their companies right to market their products as they wish. I do not have to respect what Bavisoft is doing to their customers though. Therefore as a game developer I wouldn't pirate their software, but would certainly send them a piece of my mind. Smile. On 12/16/10, Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I very fun and ornery thought, and I would like to see the end result, although I'll bet you, as a game developer, would not actually do it. Darn! (grin) --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
Well now, wouldn't it be disconcerting for 50 or so people to write them asking the same questions... that'd certainly make me uncomfortable. lol. At 07:42 AM 16/12/2010, you wrote: How about we all use the addressed she used? that one seems to be working. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry Hi Tiffany, Well, myricles never sease. I'm glad you actually succeeded to contact someone at Bavisoft. Most of us can't get anyone to respond and feel shut out. Smile. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi Muhammed, Dark just posted the message a little while ago. You can't honestly expect Bavisoft to respond that fast. I get loads of e-mails both private and public and some times it takes me a day or two to actually get to some of my messages.Therefore I wouldn't expect anything more or less out of Bavisoft. Give them at least a day or two to see the post and respond. Smile. On 12/16/10, Shiny protector muhamme...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Dark, I read your message and it seems reasonable. How ever, there is no response from them. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
It is fabulous and challenging. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Tiffany, Have you tried my game Mysteries of the Ancients? It is in beta testing right now, but it is a mixture of puzzle elements, treasure hunting, as well as the ocational mythical monster or two to kill. You can find it at http://www.usagamesinteractive.com/mota.php Cheers! On 12/15/10, Tiffany Kim tiffanyki...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you! I know they are probably retro but the puzzles sound clever and that kind of thing appeals to me more than say, shooting down spaceships. If anyone has recommendations for more modern games which challenges the mind but has a storyline, feel free to let me know. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
That is very true. I am waiting. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? He only just posted Muhamed. Give it time for Pete's sake. Even people who genuinely want to respond to customers' queries can't do it magically and instantaneously. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Shiny protector muhamme...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, I read your message and it seems reasonable. How ever, there is no response from them. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? I did post a copy to the list, but just in case you want to read the original topic on the forum (and any responses from bavisoft), see http ://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=4495 As I said in that message though, please don't reply to the topic directly, sinse I want to leave the way open for Bavisoft to say their piece. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, Umm...Where is that messsage? I'd like to read. Smile. On 12/16/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: already done actually tom. see my message to bavisoft. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
Yeah but do you think people that never receive their orders enjoy that? They'll have no choice but to respond to someone eventually. perhaps if they kept us up to date there'd be no need for anyone to write to them. - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry Well now, wouldn't it be disconcerting for 50 or so people to write them asking the same questions... that'd certainly make me uncomfortable. lol. At 07:42 AM 16/12/2010, you wrote: How about we all use the addressed she used? that one seems to be working. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry Hi Tiffany, Well, myricles never sease. I'm glad you actually succeeded to contact someone at Bavisoft. Most of us can't get anyone to respond and feel shut out. Smile. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Seeing as how it's only been hours sense he posted the message I am not surprised. Lets give it some time -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Shiny protector Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:29 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, I read your message and it seems reasonable. How ever, there is no response from them. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? I did post a copy to the list, but just in case you want to read the original topic on the forum (and any responses from bavisoft), see http ://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=4495 As I said in that message though, please don't reply to the topic directly, sinse I want to leave the way open for Bavisoft to say their piece. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, Umm...Where is that messsage? I'd like to read. Smile. On 12/16/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: already done actually tom. see my message to bavisoft. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 5708 (20101216) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 5708 (20101216) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
Hi Tiffany. nice to get a response, though i would've liked something more informative. Btw, I could've told you they run on xp, it's vista and 7 which have the trouble. it'll be interesting to see if my topic does any good. Beware the Grtue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Tiffany Kim tiffanyki...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 1:27 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry Hello Everyone, Well, as promised, I did write to the address that was given when I clicked on Bavisoft's Paypal link. From the response, it sounds as though someone is at the other end, but I was unsure about whether I should go ahead and plunk down my money (all I found out was these games will still work on my machine), not whether the company was still able to process orders. See below. Tiffany Kim tiffanyki...@gmail.com Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 5:41 PM To: j...@bavisoft.com To Whom This May Concern, I recently listened to Kelly John Sapergia's reviews of Grizzly Gulch and Chillingham, and was interested in ordering both of these games. I tried writing to your sales address, but the E-mail bounced twice. I found this address when I clicked on the Paypal button. I know the games were developed back in 2004, so before I order, I would like to know if they will run on a machine running Windows XP with service pack III installed. Please let me know if this is possible. Thank you. Sincerely, Tiffany Kim Jeff Gibbons j...@bavisoft.com Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 4:13 AM To: Tiffany Kim tiffanyki...@gmail.com Tiffany, Thanks for writing! Both games will definitely run on XP with service pack 3. Please let me know if there are any other questions I can answer. Thanks, Jeff Gibbons President, Bavisoft --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
Hi, Yes, they are. The harpies claws are extremely poisoness to humans. Even a single scratch can kill you without a potion etc to counter act the poison. Definitely one good reason to kill them at a distance. On 12/16/10, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: If you get attacked by a harpie... it can happen. Harpies appear to be poisonous. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Don't bother, mate. They have just vanished completely without any traces. So, just forget about them. - Original Message - From: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi I don't know what's up with them, they just seemed to have taken the lazy road and vannished completely with no reason for doing so. I don't know where you're based, but I thought rather than go through a possibley dodgey site I'd order the games from here. www.computerroomservices.co.uk If that link isn't right just google computer room services uk. The guy there is also totally blind and helped me out with buying the Bavisoft games. Both games are good if a little lacking in places and repeating of puzzles gets a bit tedious, but sound quality and voice acting are both really good. - Original Message - From: Tiffany Kim tiffanyki...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:24 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hello Everyone, I was listening to some reviews that Kelly Sapergia did of Grizly Gulch and Chillingham, the two games put out by Bavisoft. I was interested in purchasing them, so I navigated to their website. Credit card processing seems to be down, but the Paypal link still seems to work. I know the games are quite old (Windows 98, anyone?), so I thought I'd write to the salespeople there but my E-mail to the address given bounced. I'm wondering if anyone knows whether they are still up and running, and if so, are these games still available for purchase? Thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
Hi, You mean repost the audio trailers? I can, but I'll have to make a new on from scratch. I've deleted the old ones and right now the beta isn't exactly stable because I've got the game and the engine litterally ripped apart working on it. On 12/16/10, burak burakyuksek...@gmail.com wrote: hello, I am new hear. Can you post it again? saygilar sevgiler. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
hay muhammed, i wrote my message at eleven this morning and it's now not even five o.clock, - give them some time! Btw, as I said, I'm afraid as moderator of a respectable website I really can't tollerate piracy threats any more than Tom could. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Shiny protector muhamme...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, I read your message and it seems reasonable. How ever, there is no response from them. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? I did post a copy to the list, but just in case you want to read the original topic on the forum (and any responses from bavisoft), see http ://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=4495 As I said in that message though, please don't reply to the topic directly, sinse I want to leave the way open for Bavisoft to say their piece. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, Umm...Where is that messsage? I'd like to read. Smile. On 12/16/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: already done actually tom. see my message to bavisoft. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
If they don't respond to the audiogames.net topic, I'll go and get that address from paypall the way tiffany did and send the message to them that way (at least I know that address is working). Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Shiny protector muhamme...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Thanks Dark, I would abandan my plan. I'd just leive my mouth closed, and see how Bavisoft take it. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? I did post a copy to the list, but just in case you want to read the original topic on the forum (and any responses from bavisoft), see http ://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=4495 As I said in that message though, please don't reply to the topic directly, sinse I want to leave the way open for Bavisoft to say their piece. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, Umm...Where is that messsage? I'd like to read. Smile. On 12/16/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: already done actually tom. see my message to bavisoft. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Just a thought tom, as to the piece of your mind bit, if i remember rightly they have a phone number on their site? Obviously it's an us one, so me ringing it from over here would cost far too much to be worth it, but maybe you could give them an ear bashing that way? that is also, perfectly legal, even if you do cause their brains to run out of their ears! ;D. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
I won't give up on a response until at least next wendsay, after that I'll think again. beware the grue! dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Muhammed, Dark just posted the message a little while ago. You can't honestly expect Bavisoft to respond that fast. I get loads of e-mails both private and public and some times it takes me a day or two to actually get to some of my messages.Therefore I wouldn't expect anything more or less out of Bavisoft. Give them at least a day or two to see the post and respond. Smile. On 12/16/10, Shiny protector muhamme...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Dark, I read your message and it seems reasonable. How ever, there is no response from them. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
WOULD IT? tRUE i WOULD BE ANNOYED, BUT i THINK IT WOULD BE MORE DAMAGING IF THIS ISSUE BECAME COMAN KNOWLEDGE AND EVERY PERSON TOLD ANOTHER 50. At 04:48 a.m. 17/12/2010, you wrote: Well now, wouldn't it be disconcerting for 50 or so people to write them asking the same questions... that'd certainly make me uncomfortable. lol. At 07:42 AM 16/12/2010, you wrote: How about we all use the addressed she used? that one seems to be working. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry Hi Tiffany, Well, myricles never sease. I'm glad you actually succeeded to contact someone at Bavisoft. Most of us can't get anyone to respond and feel shut out. Smile. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi, Hmmm...I didn't know they were based in the states. For some reason I thought they were based over in the U.K. Although, the fact they used American voice talent should have clued me in. Lol! On 12/16/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Just a thought tom, as to the piece of your mind bit, if i remember rightly they have a phone number on their site? Obviously it's an us one, so me ringing it from over here would cost far too much to be worth it, but maybe you could give them an ear bashing that way? that is also, perfectly legal, even if you do cause their brains to run out of their ears! ;D. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Heck no. If they were in the Uk, I would've phoned them and pestered them far earlier than this ;D. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] a tweet from papa
\HI. I got this tweet from papa sangre and I'm not quite sure what it means... start tweet. Happy Christmas, William Lomas, first person to have me inside their phone. http://twitter.com/papasangre/status/15469603232681984 end tweet. Isn't that a person on this list? did you win a copy of the game or something? I know it's not out yet. do tell! grin! Darren Duff. Drummer for The Overflow worship band! Band web site http://www.theoverflowband.com http://www.theoverflowband.com/ Personal Phone: (678)936-6113 Mobile E-mail mobiledu...@gmail.com personal E-mail duff...@gmail.com windows live messenger *no mail please* darren...@hotmail.com skype contact duffman31279 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a tweet from papa
they offered it me. As it nearly out I guess I will say it is ok. THe sound is ok so far but the levels are really easy as scot said for us as totals. It seems there are 25 levels to complete. the main menu reads with voiceover. turning is a bit odd i use a roter gesture it seems to work ok not to bad to be honest. It is very linear On Dec 16, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Darren Duff wrote: \HI. I got this tweet from papa sangre and I'm not quite sure what it means... start tweet. Happy Christmas, William Lomas, first person to have me inside their phone. http://twitter.com/papasangre/status/15469603232681984 end tweet. Isn't that a person on this list? did you win a copy of the game or something? I know it's not out yet. do tell! grin! Darren Duff. Drummer for The Overflow worship band! Band web site http://www.theoverflowband.com http://www.theoverflowband.com/ Personal Phone: (678)936-6113 Mobile E-mail mobiledu...@gmail.com personal E-mail duff...@gmail.com windows live messenger *no mail please* darren...@hotmail.com skype contact duffman31279 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Dark, I messaged you his phone number on the audiogames board. lol --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a tweet from papa
They just offered it to you? How Did you beta test or something? That's really cool congrads man. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 1:56 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a tweet from papa they offered it me. As it nearly out I guess I will say it is ok. THe sound is ok so far but the levels are really easy as scot said for us as totals. It seems there are 25 levels to complete. the main menu reads with voiceover. turning is a bit odd i use a roter gesture it seems to work ok not to bad to be honest. It is very linear On Dec 16, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Darren Duff wrote: \HI. I got this tweet from papa sangre and I'm not quite sure what it means... start tweet. Happy Christmas, William Lomas, first person to have me inside their phone. http://twitter.com/papasangre/status/15469603232681984 end tweet. Isn't that a person on this list? did you win a copy of the game or something? I know it's not out yet. do tell! grin! Darren Duff. Drummer for The Overflow worship band! Band web site http://www.theoverflowband.com http://www.theoverflowband.com/ Personal Phone: (678)936-6113 Mobile E-mail mobiledu...@gmail.com personal E-mail duff...@gmail.com windows live messenger *no mail please* darren...@hotmail.com skype contact duffman31279 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 5708 (20101216) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 5708 (20101216) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Flash content question related to a game
Your message makes no sense to me. Here's why. You stated the following: This week on my laptop, I was successfully able to play the demo for the new and upcoming you don't Know Jack game at www.ydkj.com. Comment: This is good. Sounds like it worked with no problems, right? Then you say: The flash came up just fine on my laptop, and I was able to answer the questions. Not only that, I got to see the jack attack choices as they popped up, but being that jaws was on I couldn't press the space bar to make it work though. Comment: Again, it sounds like it works as it should, but the only problem was that the space bar would not behave as it should. Then you ask what confuses me. Although what you wrote above indicates that the only thing not working as it should was the space bar, you ask: Anyone know why the flash content wouldn't show up, I have the latest flash, set jaws to read flash, etc. comment: The flash did come up, or you wouldn't have been able to read questions and answer them. I don't get it. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: Orin orin8...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 11:40 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Flash content question related to a game Hi all, This week on my laptop, I was successfully able to play the demo for the new and upcoming you don't Know Jack game at www.ydkj.com. The flash came up just fine on my laptop, and I was able to answer the questions. Not only that, I got to see the jack attack choices as they popped up, but being that jaws was on I couldn't press the space bar to make it work though. Anyone know why the flash content wouldn't show up, I have the latest flash, set jaws to read flash, etc. Thanks. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Flash content question related to a game
Hi Charles, I agree with you. Makes no sense. The flash is working, right? Then the spacebar key doesn't work, got that? And the flash is not supposed to work? Orin, not meaning to be rude or anything, but please, be spesific about what you right. I figured out that you have a problem with your spacebar key, but it still didn't make any sense. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Flash content question related to a game Your message makes no sense to me. Here's why. You stated the following: This week on my laptop, I was successfully able to play the demo for the new and upcoming you don't Know Jack game at www.ydkj.com. Comment: This is good. Sounds like it worked with no problems, right? Then you say: The flash came up just fine on my laptop, and I was able to answer the questions. Not only that, I got to see the jack attack choices as they popped up, but being that jaws was on I couldn't press the space bar to make it work though. Comment: Again, it sounds like it works as it should, but the only problem was that the space bar would not behave as it should. Then you ask what confuses me. Although what you wrote above indicates that the only thing not working as it should was the space bar, you ask: Anyone know why the flash content wouldn't show up, I have the latest flash, set jaws to read flash, etc. comment: The flash did come up, or you wouldn't have been able to read questions and answer them. I don't get it. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: Orin orin8...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 11:40 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Flash content question related to a game Hi all, This week on my laptop, I was successfully able to play the demo for the new and upcoming you don't Know Jack game at www.ydkj.com. The flash came up just fine on my laptop, and I was able to answer the questions. Not only that, I got to see the jack attack choices as they popped up, but being that jaws was on I couldn't press the space bar to make it work though. Anyone know why the flash content wouldn't show up, I have the latest flash, set jaws to read flash, etc. Thanks. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Flash content question related to a game
Hi Charles and all, What I meant to say was, on my Virtual Machine on the Mac, the flash doesn't come up when using IE on that, and I have no idea why. On my laptop i'm using now, when I press the play link, the flash appears at the bottom of the page. For some reason on my VM on the Mac clicking the play link seems to do, well, nothing. Jaws doesn't see anything flash related. About the space bar issue: What I was trying to say was the keyboard, jaws, and flash don't seem to go well together. For example, the host tells you to hit one, two, three or four depending on what your answer choices are, which the host will read, making the game accessible. However I don't know how to get the keyboard focused in the flash content, so I just click on the buttons for the answers. Since the buttons are unlabled, and it seems that they move or something, I sometimes click the wrong choice. Jack Attack, however, requires keyboard. Whenever something comes up that matches a certain clue, you have to hit the space bar and I have the problem as before with the keyboard, basically focusing the flash content on it and have jaws on at the same time. - Original Message - From: Shiny protector muhamme...@googlemail.com To: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Flash content question related to a game Hi Charles, I agree with you. Makes no sense. The flash is working, right? Then the spacebar key doesn't work, got that? And the flash is not supposed to work? Orin, not meaning to be rude or anything, but please, be spesific about what you right. I figured out that you have a problem with your spacebar key, but it still didn't make any sense. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Flash content question related to a game Your message makes no sense to me. Here's why. You stated the following: This week on my laptop, I was successfully able to play the demo for the new and upcoming you don't Know Jack game at www.ydkj.com. Comment: This is good. Sounds like it worked with no problems, right? Then you say: The flash came up just fine on my laptop, and I was able to answer the questions. Not only that, I got to see the jack attack choices as they popped up, but being that jaws was on I couldn't press the space bar to make it work though. Comment: Again, it sounds like it works as it should, but the only problem was that the space bar would not behave as it should. Then you ask what confuses me. Although what you wrote above indicates that the only thing not working as it should was the space bar, you ask: Anyone know why the flash content wouldn't show up, I have the latest flash, set jaws to read flash, etc. comment: The flash did come up, or you wouldn't have been able to read questions and answer them. I don't get it. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: Orin orin8...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 11:40 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Flash content question related to a game Hi all, This week on my laptop, I was successfully able to play the demo for the new and upcoming you don't Know Jack game at www.ydkj.com. The flash came up just fine on my laptop, and I was able to answer the questions. Not only that, I got to see the jack attack choices as they popped up, but being that jaws was on I couldn't press the space bar to make it work though. Anyone know why the flash content wouldn't show up, I have the latest flash, set jaws to read flash, etc. Thanks. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] a tweet from papa
I completely expected it to be linear. - Original Message - From: Darren Duff duff...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a tweet from papa They just offered it to you? How Did you beta test or something? That's really cool congrads man. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 1:56 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a tweet from papa they offered it me. As it nearly out I guess I will say it is ok. THe sound is ok so far but the levels are really easy as scot said for us as totals. It seems there are 25 levels to complete. the main menu reads with voiceover. turning is a bit odd i use a roter gesture it seems to work ok not to bad to be honest. It is very linear On Dec 16, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Darren Duff wrote: \HI. I got this tweet from papa sangre and I'm not quite sure what it means... start tweet. Happy Christmas, William Lomas, first person to have me inside their phone. http://twitter.com/papasangre/status/15469603232681984 end tweet. Isn't that a person on this list? did you win a copy of the game or something? I know it's not out yet. do tell! grin! Darren Duff. Drummer for The Overflow worship band! Band web site http://www.theoverflowband.com http://www.theoverflowband.com/ Personal Phone: (678)936-6113 Mobile E-mail mobiledu...@gmail.com personal E-mail duff...@gmail.com windows live messenger *no mail please* darren...@hotmail.com skype contact duffman31279 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 5708 (20101216) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 5708 (20101216) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
Hi Dark, It would have been helpful to get something more substantive, I admit. Since I didn't get anything like feel free to place an order, it makes me wary, and thus, I have decided to move on to other prospecs, if not tackling the daunting task of learning to create some games of my own, lol. Does anyone know of a thread where suggestions for the kinds of games people actually would like to see are compiled? I have ideas for making some that I played as a kid accessible, but I'm a bit of a bookish type, so I'd end up making educational stuff and that, frankly, would probably be research-intensive and not something that I should tackle from the get-go. I saw the thread someone made about a circus game, though I don't know the complexities of such an undertaking, but if all else fails, I guess I can use that idea as a learning exercise. On 12/16/10, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: WOULD IT? tRUE i WOULD BE ANNOYED, BUT i THINK IT WOULD BE MORE DAMAGING IF THIS ISSUE BECAME COMAN KNOWLEDGE AND EVERY PERSON TOLD ANOTHER 50. At 04:48 a.m. 17/12/2010, you wrote: Well now, wouldn't it be disconcerting for 50 or so people to write them asking the same questions... that'd certainly make me uncomfortable. lol. At 07:42 AM 16/12/2010, you wrote: How about we all use the addressed she used? that one seems to be working. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry Hi Tiffany, Well, myricles never sease. I'm glad you actually succeeded to contact someone at Bavisoft. Most of us can't get anyone to respond and feel shut out. Smile. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] A up date for all truck drivers.
Yes the original web site for we truckers is going to shut down on Jan 31, 2011. But there's a project to get it back up and running under the following web page http://www.truckingsim.com So go to that address for up dates. Ron and leader dog Boz. Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a tweet from papa
Nice one! I'd take issue and say that the sound design is closer to superb than ok, but it's all subjective I suppose. Yeah, got to be pretty linear and relatively straight forward because they're aiming for a market who aren't used to following audio cues and clues. It's not going to have many people on this list scratching their heads for long, but as I said before I'd be happy enough to pay a couple of quid to have it on my phone for the occasional night time strole through somewhere scary. Let's hope it's not too long before it's publicly available via the app store. If it's not there by Sunday, I'd like to propose a Papa Party at Will's house lol. Scott On 12/16/10, Orin orin8...@gmail.com wrote: I completely expected it to be linear. - Original Message - From: Darren Duff duff...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a tweet from papa They just offered it to you? How Did you beta test or something? That's really cool congrads man. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 1:56 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a tweet from papa they offered it me. As it nearly out I guess I will say it is ok. THe sound is ok so far but the levels are really easy as scot said for us as totals. It seems there are 25 levels to complete. the main menu reads with voiceover. turning is a bit odd i use a roter gesture it seems to work ok not to bad to be honest. It is very linear On Dec 16, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Darren Duff wrote: \HI. I got this tweet from papa sangre and I'm not quite sure what it means... start tweet. Happy Christmas, William Lomas, first person to have me inside their phone. http://twitter.com/papasangre/status/15469603232681984 end tweet. Isn't that a person on this list? did you win a copy of the game or something? I know it's not out yet. do tell! grin! Darren Duff. Drummer for The Overflow worship band! Band web site http://www.theoverflowband.com http://www.theoverflowband.com/ Personal Phone: (678)936-6113 Mobile E-mail mobiledu...@gmail.com personal E-mail duff...@gmail.com windows live messenger *no mail please* darren...@hotmail.com skype contact duffman31279 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 5708 (20101216) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 5708 (20101216) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Thanks aprone, though I have a nasty feeling trans atlantic phone calls to bavisoft could be rather expensive. You might send the number to thomas ward if he'd considder phoning them in his capacity as audeasy co list owner, and as a developer himself. I have actually phoned those audio games developers in the Uk, I phoned azabat software to get their demo cd so that I could write game reviews, and phoned Gamevial just for general discussion of their web based games. My next targit, is to see if i can eerbash some sense into the rnib and convince them that there is more to audio games than azabat and their talking crosswords and board games (which I rather think are somewhat overpriced), and not all visually impared people are over the age of sixty. Given that the rnib are intrinsically stupid and my 20 year long war to get them to record a wider variety of books has not seen too much success, this is probably a doomed enterprise, but I can at least try. Oh and yes, I did first phone the rnib with a book request at the age of 7 for Douglas Hill's novel the caves of Klydor a sequal to exiles of colsec which they'd recorded in 1979 (three years before I was born and ten years before I phoned them). they did finally! record the book in 2009. It'll be interesting to see if it takes them another 20 years to do the last in the trilogy. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Jeremy Kaldobsky jer...@kaldobsky.com To: audyssey gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Dark, I messaged you his phone number on the audiogames board. lol --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a tweet from papa
I'm in! Party at Will's house lol! JOSE Lomeli Email: joselomel...@lavabit.com Twitter: joselomeli9393 - Original Message - From: Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a tweet from papa Nice one! I'd take issue and say that the sound design is closer to superb than ok, but it's all subjective I suppose. Yeah, got to be pretty linear and relatively straight forward because they're aiming for a market who aren't used to following audio cues and clues. It's not going to have many people on this list scratching their heads for long, but as I said before I'd be happy enough to pay a couple of quid to have it on my phone for the occasional night time strole through somewhere scary. Let's hope it's not too long before it's publicly available via the app store. If it's not there by Sunday, I'd like to propose a Papa Party at Will's house lol. Scott On 12/16/10, Orin orin8...@gmail.com wrote: I completely expected it to be linear. - Original Message - From: Darren Duff duff...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a tweet from papa They just offered it to you? How Did you beta test or something? That's really cool congrads man. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 1:56 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a tweet from papa they offered it me. As it nearly out I guess I will say it is ok. THe sound is ok so far but the levels are really easy as scot said for us as totals. It seems there are 25 levels to complete. the main menu reads with voiceover. turning is a bit odd i use a roter gesture it seems to work ok not to bad to be honest. It is very linear On Dec 16, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Darren Duff wrote: \HI. I got this tweet from papa sangre and I'm not quite sure what it means... start tweet. Happy Christmas, William Lomas, first person to have me inside their phone. http://twitter.com/papasangre/status/15469603232681984 end tweet. Isn't that a person on this list? did you win a copy of the game or something? I know it's not out yet. do tell! grin! Darren Duff. Drummer for The Overflow worship band! Band web site http://www.theoverflowband.com http://www.theoverflowband.com/ Personal Phone: (678)936-6113 Mobile E-mail mobiledu...@gmail.com personal E-mail duff...@gmail.com windows live messenger *no mail please* darren...@hotmail.com skype contact duffman31279 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 5708 (20101216) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 5708 (20101216) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E
Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
Hi tiffany, As far as bavisoft go I really can't blame you, and in fact sad to say I think your making the right decision, though hopefully at least bavisoft will come to the table and help sort this situation out, so your enquirary might have done some good afterall. for game creation, might i suggest you employ a slightly different approach. Rather than starting with the i'm going to make game X idea, start by looking into learning the programming language you wish to use, perhaps writing some short example games to teach you basic techniques and help your practice, then, start on design. There is a fantastic tutorial on the page for bgt which goes into many basic principle of programming with bgt itself, which is expressly designed for creating audio games and cuts out many of the less game related details which it is usually necessary to lay as foundations before creating something. This is just my suggestion based on what I know of programming. I heard the tutorial, and attempted a short amount of scripting, but decided that trying to write a phd thesis and learn programming at the same time was not a good idea at all, - even aside from practicing my singing, being in stage performances, working for audiogames.net, doing tabletop rp and all the other stuff I have going on. I do intend to come back to game programming later though when perhaps I don't have as many commitments, - ie, when my phd is finished. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A up date for all truck drivers.
Thanks for letting me know ron. Please keep us posted as far as updates go so that I can alter the link on audiogames.net. While truckz wasn't personally my thing as a game, i could appreciate the work that had gone into it and could see it was an absorbing and well put together project, so I'd be glad if it was stil running. Beware the Grue1 Dark. - Original Message - From: Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com To: Audyssey gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:18 PM Subject: [Audyssey] A up date for all truck drivers. Yes the original web site for we truckers is going to shut down on Jan 31, 2011. But there's a project to get it back up and running under the following web page http://www.truckingsim.com So go to that address for up dates. Ron and leader dog Boz. Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
I knew they were in mythology. But since you said you couldn't find anything in the code to explain that, I wasn't sure whether my assumptions were right. At 08:51 AM 16/12/2010, you wrote: Hi, Yes, they are. The harpies claws are extremely poisoness to humans. Even a single scratch can kill you without a potion etc to counter act the poison. Definitely one good reason to kill them at a distance. On 12/16/10, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: If you get attacked by a harpie... it can happen. Harpies appear to be poisonous. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Programming Games was Re: Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
Hi Tiffany, I agree with Dark. I think it's best to learn and experiment with a programming language, or anything for that matter, before starting to work on a major project. For a long time now, I've been interested in writing text adventure games (just for myself), but it took awhile before I found a language I liked to code in. With that in mind, I also think it's always good to look at as much source code as possible to see how an author programs something in a certain way. Hope this helps. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia For information regarding my Internet radio shows, links to my favorite sites, and more, visit my personal website at http://www.ksapergia.net/. If you need jingles, voiceovers and music for your project at an affordable price, visit KJS Productions at: http://www.kjsproductions.com/. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A up date for all truck drivers.
No problem. I just wished that they would add sound effects. I think that the sound effects that Jim Kitchen has in his trucking game would bring the the online version to life for both the blind drivers and the sighted alike. Ron Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com -- From: dark d...@xgam.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 6:19 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A up date for all truck drivers. Thanks for letting me know ron. Please keep us posted as far as updates go so that I can alter the link on audiogames.net. While truckz wasn't personally my thing as a game, i could appreciate the work that had gone into it and could see it was an absorbing and well put together project, so I'd be glad if it was stil running. Beware the Grue1 Dark. - Original Message - From: Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com To: Audyssey gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:18 PM Subject: [Audyssey] A up date for all truck drivers. Yes the original web site for we truckers is going to shut down on Jan 31, 2011. But there's a project to get it back up and running under the following web page http://www.truckingsim.com So go to that address for up dates. Ron and leader dog Boz. Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.