On 9/15/2012 10:13 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
I like this conversation! I am interested in the materials required for the vessel
and the plumbing. Some kind of ceramic coated titanium or zirconium? Alumina reinforced
steel
On 15.09.2012 21:56 meekerdb said the following:
On 9/15/2012 9:35 AM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 9/15/2012 4:11 AM, Russell Standish wrote:
...
Hi Russell,
That is far too inclusive a definition of computation.
Not really, it only requires some way of representing the
information such
Hi Bruno Marchal
All love, all truth, all beauty necessarily comes from God (Platonia's All).
So if you can feel any of those, there's your experience.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/16/2012
Leibniz would say, If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
so that everything could
Hi Craig Weinberg
Yes, such chicanery goes on, because men are no angels.
But it has to be even worse is a socialist economy,
where market forces (which tend to keep men more honest)
are replaced by the biased wills of bureaucrats and politicians.
I'd choose the market economy myself.
Hi John Clark
oger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/16/2012
Leibniz would say, If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
so that everything could function.
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Time: 2012-09-15, 16:28:02
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Hi John Clark
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
ROGER: Intelligence ? I don't think the word was available back then (Bible
days).
JOHN: Welll, they certainly behaved as the didn't know what it meant to be
intelligent, but then why is the
bible worth reading
Hi Stephen P. King
Now I see your problem with Chalmers.
It seems to be too sweeping a remark,
but Leibniz would agree. because
God, who is the supreme monad, causes all
to happen. Mind is the ruling power.
As I say below,
If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
so that everything could
Hi Stephen P. King
Not sure I understand your objection, but
faith, being subjective (hence personal)
is at least to first order principally in one individual.
At the same time, however, since
Mind is nonlocal, there has to be some
spillover from other minds of like thinking.
According
Hi Stephen P. King
Leibniz was not a solipsist, since he took it for
granted that the world out there was actually there.
If a tree fell in a forest and nobody heard it, it still
would have fallen.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/16/2012
Leibniz would say, If there's no God, we'd
Hi Stephen P. King
The other minds problem (How do I know that there are other minds ?)
is indeed an impossible to crack nut if you are a solipsist. So
solipsim is perhaps the only philiosophy impossible to
disprove. Or prove, I think.
Leibniz was not a solipsist.
Roger Clough,
On Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:21:14 AM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 2:55 AM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
What you think third party observable behavior means is the set of all
properties which are externally discoverable. I am saying
Hi Stephen P. King
Yes, unless the hockey stick data is true,
we are on the verge of another ice age--
plus or minus 10,000 years.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/16/2012
Leibniz would say, If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
so that everything could function.
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Hi Stephen P. King
My take on the meaning of knowledge of things unseen
is knowledge of what is invisible at the moment.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/16/2012
Leibniz would say, If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
so that everything could function.
- Receiving the
Hi Stephen P. King
Mereology seems to be something like Spinoza's metaphysics,
that there is just one stuff in the universe and that stuff is God.
So there is just one material.
Leibniz is completely diffferent. Every substance is not only
different, it keeps changing, and changing more than
Hi Stephen P. King
I ALSO THINK WE SHOULD LOOK INTO THORIUM REACTORS BUT
THERE ARE MANY DOUBTERS (CERTAINLY GREENIES AMONG THEM)
THAT THEY WOULD WORK.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/16/2012
Leibniz would say, If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
so that everything could
On 15 Sep 2012, at 22:32, John Clark wrote:
On Tue, Sep 11, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote:
I know this might be an impossible dream, but could we keep the
list clear of parochial US election discussion, as it is clearly off-
topic.
How could anything be off topic on the
Background: After refusing to serve Bruno's brother in law with the
simulated brain at my restaurant, I decide to make peace by inviting myself
to go along with Brother in law B1ll to his favorite restaurant.
It's the best in the city!, says B1ll.
That sounds great, because I am really
On Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:48:16 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote:
Hi Craig Weinberg
Yes, such chicanery goes on, because men are no angels.
But it has to be even worse is a socialist economy,
where market forces (which tend to keep men more honest)
Market forces do whatever the owners
On 9/16/2012 8:26 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
Now I see your problem with Chalmers.
It seems to be too sweeping a remark,
but Leibniz would agree. because
God, who is the supreme monad, causes all
to happen. Mind is the ruling power.
As I say below,
If there's no God, we'd have to
On 9/16/2012 8:31 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
Not sure I understand your objection, but
faith, being subjective (hence personal)
is at least to first order principally in one individual.
At the same time, however, since
Mind is nonlocal, there has to be some
spillover from other
On 9/16/2012 8:31 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
Not sure I understand your objection, but
faith, being subjective (hence personal)
is at least to first order principally in one individual.
Dear Roger,
There is more to say!
At the same time, however, since
Mind is nonlocal,
On 9/16/2012 8:39 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
The other minds problem (How do I know that there are other minds ?)
is indeed an impossible to crack nut if you are a solipsist. So
solipsim is perhaps the only philiosophy impossible to
disprove. Or prove, I think.
Leibniz was not a
On 9/16/2012 8:42 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:21:14 AM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 2:55 AM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:
What you think third party observable behavior means is the set
of all
On 9/16/2012 8:45 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
My take on the meaning of knowledge of things unseen
is knowledge of what is invisible at the moment.
Hi Roger,
I agree with this definition. It is equivalent to mine. What we
must understand is that at the moment is
On 9/16/2012 8:52 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
Mereology seems to be something like Spinoza's metaphysics,
that there is just one stuff in the universe and that stuff is God.
So there is just one material.
Hi Roger,
Yes. Each of these philosophers focused on different
On 9/16/2012 8:55 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
I ALSO THINK WE SHOULD LOOK INTO THORIUM REACTORS BUT
THERE ARE MANY DOUBTERS (CERTAINLY GREENIES AMONG THEM)
THAT THEY WOULD WORK.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net mailto:rclo...@verizon.net
9/16/2012
Leibniz would say, If there's
On 9/16/2012 9:29 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Background: After refusing to serve Bruno's brother in law with the
simulated brain at my restaurant, I decide to make peace by inviting
myself to go along with Brother in law B1ll to his favorite restaurant.
It's the best in the city!, says B1ll.
Craig,
You may want to look at
Galen Strawson, Selves: An Essay in Revisionary Metaphysics
He proves that selves exist. Interestingly enough he does it based on
the materialist framework.
p. 11 “For the moment, though, the brief is to show that selves exist,
and that they’re things or
Hi Stephan,
I would like to quibble about your statement:
For God, all things are given but once and there is no need to
compute the relations .
in terms of the OMEGA Point (OP).
Both in MWI and SWI, God (or whatever mechanism) is able to compute the OP.
But I suspect that the computation is not
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 1:44 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
In fact it [CO2] has been less than half the current level during the
last 600 thousand years
There have been at least 4 times in the last 600 thousand years when the
CO2 levels were nearly as high as they are now. And the
On 16.09.2012 18:29 Stephen P. King said the following:
On 9/16/2012 8:55 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King I ALSO THINK WE SHOULD LOOK INTO THORIUM
REACTORS BUT THERE ARE MANY DOUBTERS (CERTAINLY GREENIES AMONG
THEM) THAT THEY WOULD WORK. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
On Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:13:57 PM UTC-4, Stephen Paul King wrote:
On 9/16/2012 8:42 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:21:14 AM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
Moreover, this
set has subsets, and we can limit our discussion to these subsets. For
On Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:34:47 PM UTC-4, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
Craig,
You may want to look at
Galen Strawson, Selves: An Essay in Revisionary Metaphysics
He proves that selves exist. Interestingly enough he does it based on
the materialist framework.
p. 11 �For the
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 , Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
God loved the Israelites and hated their enemies.
Well that hardly seems fair, and God hated a hell of a lot more of His
creations than he loved.
God did heap down fire and brimstone on the enemies of his people.
I understand
On 16.09.2012 19:03 Craig Weinberg said the following:
On Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:34:47 PM UTC-4, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
Craig,
You may want to look at
Galen Strawson, Selves: An Essay in Revisionary Metaphysics
He proves that selves exist. Interestingly enough he does it based
on
On 16 Sep 2012, at 13:36, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Bruno Marchal
All love, all truth, all beauty necessarily comes from God
(Platonia's All).
So if you can feel any of those, there's your experience.
Yes.
But with comp there is a sense to say that Satan can fail all finite
creatures on
On 16 Sep 2012, at 13:47, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Craig Weinberg
Yes, such chicanery goes on, because men are no angels.
But it has to be even worse is a socialist economy,
where market forces (which tend to keep men more honest)
are replaced by the biased wills of bureaucrats and politicians.
It seems to me that numbers are based on our ability to judge relative
magnitudes:
Which is bigger, which is closer, which is heavier, etc.
Many animals have this ability - called numeracy. Humans differ only
in the degree to which it is developed, and in our ability to build
higher level
On 9/16/2012 12:44 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 15.09.2012 21:56 meekerdb said the following:
On 9/15/2012 9:35 AM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 9/15/2012 4:11 AM, Russell Standish wrote:
...
Hi Russell,
That is far too inclusive a definition of computation.
Not really, it only requires
On 9/16/2012 12:34 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
Craig,
You may want to look at
Galen Strawson, Selves: An Essay in Revisionary Metaphysics
He proves that selves exist. Interestingly enough he does it based on
the materialist framework.
p. 11 “For the moment, though, the brief is to show that
On 9/16/2012 12:35 PM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
Hi Stephan,
I would like to quibble about your statement:
For God, all things are given but once and there is no need to
compute the relations .
in terms of the OMEGA Point (OP).
Hi Richard,
A good friend of mine (who I was just talking to a
On 9/16/2012 12:43 PM, John Clark wrote:
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 1:44 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
In fact it [CO2] has been less than half the current level
during the last 600 thousand years
There have been at least 4 times in the last 600
On 9/16/2012 12:43 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 16.09.2012 18:29 Stephen P. King said the following:
On 9/16/2012 8:55 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King I ALSO THINK WE SHOULD LOOK INTO THORIUM
REACTORS BUT THERE ARE MANY DOUBTERS (CERTAINLY GREENIES AMONG
THEM) THAT THEY WOULD WORK.
On 9/16/2012 12:49 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:13:57 PM UTC-4, Stephen Paul King wrote:
On 9/16/2012 8:42 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:21:14 AM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
Moreover, this
set has subsets, and
It may be too late to do someting about global warming. In the early
1980s we had plenty of time to act, today we have to accept at least
2°C temperature rise and hope that will not cause big problems, but
even that will require taking drastic measures.
You don't need catastrophic effects on
On Sunday, September 16, 2012 2:42:20 PM UTC-4, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
According to Strawson, what exists as a thing is
SUBJECT OF EXPERIENCE-AS-SINGLE-MENTAL-THING
for short SESMET.
Hence no contradiction.
Evgenii
I think the word 'exists' can be confusing. I reserve the term
On 9/16/2012 2:42 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 16.09.2012 19:03 Craig Weinberg said the following:
On Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:34:47 PM UTC-4, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
Craig,
You may want to look at
Galen Strawson, Selves: An Essay in Revisionary Metaphysics
He proves that selves
On 9/16/2012 1:37 PM, smi...@zonnet.nl wrote:
It may be too late to do someting about global warming. In the early 1980s we had plenty
of time to act, today we have to accept at least 2°C temperature rise and hope that will
not cause big problems, but even that will require taking drastic
On 9/16/2012 3:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
Why does a physical system have to be non-invertible? My
understanding is that current physical laws imply that systems are
invertible.
Hi Jason,
Say hello to the problem of time.
--
Onward!
Stephen
On 9/16/2012 3:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
Where is our universe located? What could its location be
relative to?
That question presupposes that there is a large universe that
this one is embedded into and that it is possible to define both
coordinate maps
On Sep 16, 2012, at 5:01 PM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net
wrote:
On 9/16/2012 3:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
Where is our universe located? What could its location be
relative to?
That question presupposes that there is a large universe that
this one is embedded into and
On 9/16/2012 3:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
Yes, but note that even in the case of a purely abstract
mathematical universe, like a Hilbert space, we use a coordinate
system and sets of maps to relate the relations of where things
are in the space of the universe.
Sure, but my
On 9/16/2012 3:12 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 16 Sep 2012, at 13:36, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Bruno Marchal
All love, all truth, all beauty necessarily comes from God
(Platonia's All).
So if you can feel any of those, there's your experience.
Yes.
But with comp there is a sense to say that
On 9/16/2012 3:43 PM, Rex Allen wrote:
It seems to me that numbers are based on our ability to judge relative
magnitudes:
Which is bigger, which is closer, which is heavier, etc.
Many animals have this ability - called numeracy. Humans differ only
in the degree to which it is developed, and
On Sep 16, 2012, at 5:00 PM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net
wrote:
On 9/16/2012 3:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
Why does a physical system have to be non-invertible? My
understanding is that current physical laws imply that systems are
invertible.
Hi Jason,
Say hello to the
On 9/16/2012 6:11 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Sep 16, 2012, at 5:00 PM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net
wrote:
On 9/16/2012 3:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
Why does a physical system have to be non-invertible? My
understanding is that current physical laws imply that systems are
On 9/16/2012 6:11 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Sep 16, 2012, at 5:00 PM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net
wrote:
On 9/16/2012 3:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
Why does a physical system have to be non-invertible? My
understanding is that current physical laws imply that systems are
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.netwrote:
HI Rex,
Nice post! Could you riff a bit on what the number PHI tells us about
this characteristic. How is it that it seems that our perceptions of the
world find anything that is close to a PHI valued
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