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2014-07-25 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:11 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Atheist On 25 July 2014 12:48, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List everything-list

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2014-07-25 Thread LizR
I agree to an extent, but this sort of argument tends to drift towards tautology. Whatever survives survives, and hence has survival value in some sense. But a meme that turns someone into a suicide bomber or celibate monk probably doesn't have much survival value for that person. My feeling is

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2014-07-25 Thread Telmo Menezes
. -Original Message- From: Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, Jul 17, 2014 12:02 pm Subject: Re: Atheist 2014-07-17 10:31 GMT+02:00, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 17 Jul 2014

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2014-07-25 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Memes cannot survive without a human brain. We are their vehicle, but are the our effluent, or our children? -Original Message- From: LizR lizj...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, Jul 25, 2014 3:47 am Subject: Re: Atheist I agree to an extent

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2014-07-25 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 12:48 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Atheist I agree to an extent, but this sort of argument tends to drift towards tautology. Whatever

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2014-07-24 Thread Alberto G. Corona
. -Original Message- From: Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, Jul 17, 2014 12:02 pm Subject: Re: Atheist 2014-07-17 10:31 GMT+02:00, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 17 Jul 2014

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2014-07-24 Thread LizR
On 25 July 2014 10:21, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: Cultural determism is incompatible with natural selection. Pardon my ignorance, but what is cultural determinism? (Or what would it be, if there was such a thing?) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

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2014-07-24 Thread LizR
Oh, OK, WIkipedia! (oops!) *Cultural determinism* is the belief that the culture in which we are raised determines who we are at emotional and behavioral levels. This supports the theory that environmental influences dominate who we are instead of biologically inherited traits. That sounds a bit

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2014-07-24 Thread Alberto G. Corona
12:02 pm Subject: Re: Atheist 2014-07-17 10:31 GMT+02:00, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 17 Jul 2014, at 01:00, Alberto G. Corona wrote: The latest theories of everithing admit absolutely everithing. Which one? What do you mean by absolutely everything

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2014-07-24 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com And too much diversity syrup makes me vomit Seems you choose to do much of your vomiting on this list; is there some reason you feel so compelled to share your vomit? -- You received this message because you

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2014-07-24 Thread meekerdb
And in any case 'natural selection' would just be replaced by 'cultural selection' - which is natural. Brent On 7/24/2014 3:42 PM, LizR wrote: Oh, OK, WIkipedia! (oops!) *Cultural determinism*is the belief that the culture in which we are raised determines who we are at emotional and

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2014-07-24 Thread LizR
On 25 July 2014 11:27, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: And in any case 'natural selection' would just be replaced by 'cultural selection' - which is natural. What is 'cultural selection' ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List

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2014-07-24 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: LizR lizj...@gmail.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 4:49 PM Subject: Re: Atheist On 25 July 2014 11:27, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: And in any case 'natural selection' would just be replaced

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2014-07-24 Thread LizR
On 25 July 2014 12:48, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: -- *From:* LizR lizj...@gmail.com *To:* everything-list@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 24, 2014 4:49 PM *Subject:* Re: Atheist On 25 July 2014 11

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2014-07-24 Thread meekerdb
On 7/24/2014 4:49 PM, LizR wrote: On 25 July 2014 11:27, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: And in any case 'natural selection' would just be replaced by 'cultural selection' - which is natural. What is 'cultural selection' ? I think there are two

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2014-07-24 Thread LizR
On 25 July 2014 13:32, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 7/24/2014 4:49 PM, LizR wrote: On 25 July 2014 11:27, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: And in any case 'natural selection' would just be replaced by 'cultural selection' - which is natural. What is 'cultural

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2014-07-20 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 10:47 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Atheist On 7/19/2014 10:08 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: From

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2014-07-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 19 Jul 2014, at 22:08, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: Well sure... life is more pleasant when people have a live and let live attitude. As you point out respect needs mutuality. Respecting an institution that does not respect anyone that does not adopt their dogma is

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2014-07-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Jul 2014, at 02:21, meekerdb wrote: On 7/14/2014 7:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Now, if you are interested in experiencing the (rather common) God hallucination, there are technic for that (fasting, sleep deprivation, magic mushrooms, LSD, salvia, near death experiences, etc.).

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2014-07-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Jul 2014, at 03:00, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 2:21 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 7/14/2014 7:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Now, if you are interested in experiencing the (rather common) God hallucination, there are technic for that

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2014-07-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Jul 2014, at 05:26, John Clark wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: I would describe it as a societal paradigm... this unspoken rule that all should respect religion. Yes, but why does religion and only

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2014-07-20 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 20 Jul 2014, at 03:00, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 2:21 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 7/14/2014 7:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Now, if you are interested in experiencing

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2014-07-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Jul 2014, at 16:32, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 20 Jul 2014, at 03:00, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 2:21 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 7/14/2014 7:46 AM,

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2014-07-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
as minds in the multiverse, therefore everithing is theoretically possible even under this monistic hypothesis. Everithing goes. -Original Message- From: Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, Jul 17, 2014 12:02 pm Subject: Re

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2014-07-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
. Everithing goes. -Original Message- From: Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, Jul 17, 2014 12:02 pm Subject: Re: Atheist 2014-07-17 10:31 GMT+02:00, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 17 Jul 2014, at 01:00, Alberto G

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2014-07-19 Thread Telmo Menezes
everithing is theoretically possible even under this monistic hypothesis. Everithing goes. -Original Message- From: Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, Jul 17, 2014 12:02 pm Subject: Re

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2014-07-19 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruno Marchal Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 3:08 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Atheist On 17 Jul 2014, at 20:24, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote

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2014-07-19 Thread meekerdb
On 7/14/2014 7:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Now, if you are interested in experiencing the (rather common) God hallucination, there are technic for that (fasting, sleep deprivation, magic mushrooms, LSD, salvia, near death experiences, etc.). Really? That will allow me to see the unprovable

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2014-07-19 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 2:21 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 7/14/2014 7:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Now, if you are interested in experiencing the (rather common) God hallucination, there are technic for that (fasting, sleep deprivation, magic mushrooms, LSD, salvia, near death

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2014-07-19 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: I would describe it as a societal paradigm… this unspoken rule that all should respect religion. Yes, but why does religion and only religion get this special treatment? Nobody thinks that

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2014-07-19 Thread Kim Jones
On 20 Jul 2014, at 10:21 am, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 7/14/2014 7:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Now, if you are interested in experiencing the (rather common) God hallucination, there are technic for that (fasting, sleep deprivation, magic mushrooms, LSD, salvia, near

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2014-07-19 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 8:27 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Atheist On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List everything-list

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2014-07-19 Thread meekerdb
On 7/19/2014 10:08 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: *From:*everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *John Clark *Sent:* Saturday, July 19, 2014 8:27 PM *To:* everything-list@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Atheist On Thu, Jul

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2014-07-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 Jul 2014, at 18:02, Alberto G. Corona wrote: 2014-07-17 10:31 GMT+02:00, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 17 Jul 2014, at 01:00, Alberto G. Corona wrote: The latest theories of everithing admit absolutely everithing. Which one? What do you mean by absolutely everything? they

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2014-07-18 Thread Alberto G. Corona
under this monistic hypothesis. Everithing goes. -Original Message- From: Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, Jul 17, 2014 12:02 pm Subject: Re: Atheist 2014-07-17 10:31 GMT+02:00, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be

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2014-07-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 Jul 2014, at 20:24, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Bruno Marchal Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 9:25 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Atheist On 17 Jul

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2014-07-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
: Thu, Jul 17, 2014 12:02 pm Subject: Re: Atheist 2014-07-17 10:31 GMT+02:00, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 17 Jul 2014, at 01:00, Alberto G. Corona wrote: The latest theories of everithing admit absolutely everithing. Which one? What do you mean by absolutely everything

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2014-07-18 Thread Alberto G. Corona
this monistic hypothesis. Everithing goes. -Original Message- From: Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, Jul 17, 2014 12:02 pm Subject: Re: Atheist 2014-07-17 10:31 GMT+02:00, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 17 Jul

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2014-07-18 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Sent: Thu, Jul 17, 2014 12:02 pm Subject: Re: Atheist 2014-07-17 10:31 GMT+02:00, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 17 Jul 2014, at 01:00, Alberto G. Corona wrote: The latest theories of everithing admit absolutely everithing. Which one? What do you mean by absolutely everything

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2014-07-18 Thread Telmo Menezes
Sent: Thu, Jul 17, 2014 12:02 pm Subject: Re: Atheist 2014-07-17 10:31 GMT+02:00, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 17 Jul 2014, at 01:00, Alberto G. Corona wrote: The latest theories of everithing admit absolutely everithing. Which one? What do you mean by absolutely everything

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2014-07-18 Thread Alberto G. Corona
...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, Jul 17, 2014 12:02 pm Subject: Re: Atheist 2014-07-17 10:31 GMT+02:00, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 17 Jul 2014, at 01:00, Alberto G. Corona wrote: The latest theories of everithing admit absolutely

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2014-07-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 Jul 2014, at 01:00, Alberto G. Corona wrote: The latest theories of everithing admit absolutely everithing. Which one? What do you mean by absolutely everything? they are no longer materialistic. Either they are no-theories or they allow any interpretation anyone may like about the

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2014-07-17 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 11:20 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Atheist Salman Rushdie wrote: religion is the poison in the blood. Where religion

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2014-07-17 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
everything-list@googlegroups.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, Jul 17, 2014 4:33 am Subject: RE: Atheist From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 11:20 AM To: everything

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2014-07-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Jul 2014, at 19:31, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-07-16 19:22 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 15 Jul 2014, at 22:14, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-07-15 22:10 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 14 Jul 2014, at 17:25, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-07-14

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2014-07-17 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2014-07-17 17:04 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 16 Jul 2014, at 19:31, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-07-16 19:22 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 15 Jul 2014, at 22:14, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-07-15 22:10 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be:

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2014-07-17 Thread Samiya Illias
This illustrated video might be of interest: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151781219163852 On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-07-17 17:04 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 16 Jul 2014, at 19:31, Quentin Anciaux wrote:

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2014-07-17 Thread Alberto G. Corona
2014-07-17 10:31 GMT+02:00, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 17 Jul 2014, at 01:00, Alberto G. Corona wrote: The latest theories of everithing admit absolutely everithing. Which one? What do you mean by absolutely everything? they are no longer materialistic. Either they are

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2014-07-17 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Subject: Re: Atheist 2014-07-17 10:31 GMT+02:00, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 17 Jul 2014, at 01:00, Alberto G. Corona wrote: The latest theories of everithing admit absolutely everithing. Which one? What do you mean by absolutely everything? they are no longer materialistic. Either

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2014-07-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 Jul 2014, at 10:33, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 11:20 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Atheist Salman

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2014-07-17 Thread Alberto G. Corona
under this monistic hypothesis. Everithing goes. -Original Message- From: Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, Jul 17, 2014 12:02 pm Subject: Re: Atheist 2014-07-17 10:31 GMT+02:00, Bruno Marchal marc

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2014-07-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 Jul 2014, at 17:09, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-07-17 17:04 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 16 Jul 2014, at 19:31, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-07-16 19:22 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 15 Jul 2014, at 22:14, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-07-15

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2014-07-17 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruno Marchal Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 9:25 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Atheist On 17 Jul 2014, at 10:33, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote

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2014-07-16 Thread Samiya Illias
Dear John, Thank you for sharing your amazing life story! You ask: 'Allow me please one more question: how is it balanced with the Day of the Divine Final Sentencing that people die now and some go to Heaven and some to Hell? (I am referring to the 72 virgins vs. the fire-created Satan-helpers

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2014-07-16 Thread Samiya Illias
PGC, I do not assume that you don't read religious text. I do get the feeling though that you do not hold them in esteem, due to the reasons you cite against them, particularly the blasphemy point you keep raising. Also, I do not think the Quran is yet on your reading list. Is that correct? If

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2014-07-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 15 Jul 2014, at 22:05, meekerdb wrote: On 7/15/2014 12:27 PM, John Clark wrote: Yes, the Bible contains its own sadistic lunacy--but the above quotations can be fairly said to convey the central message of the Qur'an--and of Islam at nearly every moment in its history. The Qur'an does

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2014-07-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 15 Jul 2014, at 22:14, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-07-15 22:10 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 14 Jul 2014, at 17:25, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-07-14 17:13 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 14 Jul 2014, at 12:53, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-07-14

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2014-07-16 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2014-07-16 19:22 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 15 Jul 2014, at 22:14, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-07-15 22:10 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 14 Jul 2014, at 17:25, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-07-14 17:13 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be:

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2014-07-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 15 Jul 2014, at 22:17, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: From: Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com Well I can accept such language in mathematics where you make clear what is meant, not in every day use when someone says he *believes* in god, that's not what he

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2014-07-16 Thread John Clark
Salman Rushdie wrote: religion is the poison in the blood. Where religion intervenes, mere innocence is no excuse. Yet we go on skating around this issue, speaking of religion in the fashionable language of respect. What is there to respect in any of this, or in any of the crimes now being

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2014-07-16 Thread John Mikes
Samiya, I can be no more appreciative to all I learned from you about the Islamic issues during my entire life. I will not change my ways of thinking now, after 92 years, but I still like to learn. So live well, have a good life (wherever it will take you) - you got a friend in me. So please do

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2014-07-16 Thread Alberto G. Corona
The latest theories of everithing admit absolutely everithing. they are no longer materialistic. Either they are no-theories or they allow any interpretation anyone may like about the know and unknow reality. In certain sense materialism has given up without being conscious of it. That is because

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2014-07-15 Thread LizR
As someone said... Man created God in his own image: Intolerant, sexist, homophobic, and violent. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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2014-07-15 Thread LizR
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/female-scientists-quit-2014071588582 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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2014-07-15 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Poor you. It must be very hard to live with such insane hate against men. It must hurt you a lot. You need help. 2014-07-15 13:05 GMT+02:00, LizR lizj...@gmail.com: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/female-scientists-quit-2014071588582 -- You received this message because you are

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2014-07-15 Thread Quentin Anciaux
May I suggest you try water instead of corona ? Or maybe coconut water ? it may help you to climb faster... 2014-07-15 13:44 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com: Poor you. It must be very hard to live with such insane hate against men. It must hurt you a lot. You need help.

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2014-07-15 Thread Alberto G. Corona
That is atheistic humor? Perhaps too much atheism can endanger the cognitive hability for creating good jokes. I don´t know. Or it may be the consequences of too much exposition to this particular atheists affirmation group. Some controlled experiments are necessary. 2014-07-15 13:49

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2014-07-15 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2014-07-15 14:06 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com: That is atheistic humor? Not at all it is humor for stupid... Maybe I should try humor for fascist homophobic mysoginistic christian asshole ? It would certainly be better suited for the kind of marvelous coconut climber your

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2014-07-15 Thread Alberto G. Corona
This new joke is even worse Try burning something. You are sick of hate, and you also are badly in need of help. 2014-07-15 14:24 GMT+02:00, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com: 2014-07-15 14:06 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com: That is atheistic humor? Not at all it is

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2014-07-15 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2014-07-15 14:39 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com: This new joke is even worse Try burning something. Hmm good idea, are you free for dinner ? You are sick of hate, and you also are badly in need of help. 2014-07-15 14:24 GMT+02:00, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com:

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2014-07-15 Thread Alberto G. Corona
That is better. Congrats! 2014-07-15 14:50 GMT+02:00, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com: 2014-07-15 14:39 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com: This new joke is even worse Try burning something. Hmm good idea, are you free for dinner ? You are sick of hate, and you also

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2014-07-15 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
You are sick of hate, and you also are badly in need of help. I see Alberto is in a helping mood this morning. Such a pious man. Bravo Alberto! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

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2014-07-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 14 Jul 2014, at 18:06, Samiya Illias wrote: On 14-Jul-2014, at 11:08 am, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 14 Jul 2014, at 12:09, Samiya Illias wrote: Why do you need to see God to believe in God? Good point, especially coming from a literalist :) :) I agree that God,

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2014-07-15 Thread Alberto G. Corona
To tell the truth is the most friendly and helpful. Truth make you free. first the truth, then, love. If you have friends that don´t tell you the naked and painful truth then they are not real friends. They lie you to make you useful for them, to enslave you. Truth in the other side, empowers you

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2014-07-15 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote: most people choose the religion of their parents, as part of culture and are comfortable confirming to social norms, instead of honest intellectual inquiry and search. Yes, all the people in the middle east didn't

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2014-07-15 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 9:24 AM Subject: Re: Atheist To tell the truth is the most friendly and helpful. Truth make you free. first the truth, then, love. If you have

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2014-07-15 Thread Samiya Illias
On 15-Jul-2014, at 12:57 pm, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote: most people choose the religion of their parents, as part of culture and are comfortable confirming to social norms, instead of honest

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2014-07-15 Thread John Clark
The following is from the Sam Harris book The End Of Faith. Open the Koran, which is perfect in its every syllable, and simply read it with the eyes of faith. You will see how little compassion need be wasted on those whom God himself is in the process of “mocking,” “cursing,” “shaming,”

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2014-07-15 Thread meekerdb
On 7/15/2014 12:27 PM, John Clark wrote: Yes, the Bible contains its own sadistic lunacy—but the above quotations can be fairly said to convey the central message of the Qur’an—and of Islam at nearly every moment in its history. The Qur’an does not contain anything like a Sermon on the Mount.

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2014-07-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 14 Jul 2014, at 17:25, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-07-14 17:13 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 14 Jul 2014, at 12:53, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-07-14 12:09 GMT+02:00 Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com: Why do you need to see God to believe in God? Why should you

Re: Atheist

2014-07-15 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2014-07-15 22:10 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 14 Jul 2014, at 17:25, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-07-14 17:13 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 14 Jul 2014, at 12:53, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-07-14 12:09 GMT+02:00 Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com:

Re: Atheist

2014-07-15 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com Well I can accept such language in mathematics where you make clear what is meant, not in every day use when someone says he *believes* in god, that's not what he meant... That's what I don't like in your

Re: Atheist

2014-07-15 Thread LizR
I like men. Well, most men. (There are bad apples in every barrel...) On 15 July 2014 23:44, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: Poor you. It must be very hard to live with such insane hate against men. It must hurt you a lot. You need help. 2014-07-15 13:05 GMT+02:00, LizR

Re: Atheist

2014-07-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 14 Jul 2014, at 19:59, meekerdb wrote: On 7/14/2014 7:30 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 13 Jul 2014, at 15:09, David Nyman wrote: On 12 July 2014 20:34, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: Of course they wouldn't because 17 is a prime number is a tautology. It's true simply in virtue

Re: Atheist

2014-07-15 Thread John Mikes
Dear Samiya, thanks unlimitedly for your kind and information-laden response that opens eyes (mine included). I fell into political turmoil at an early age (WWII) and struggled to learn how to make a living in science/technology. I learned Latin and Gothic alphabets at 4-5 (on my own), Cyrillic

Re: Atheist

2014-07-14 Thread Samiya Illias
Why do you need to see God to believe in God? On 14-Jul-2014, at 2:14 am, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 7/13/2014 3:47 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Sure: Do you believe in a theist god? I'd like to. So we can keep using the word theology and keep some academic

Re: Atheist

2014-07-14 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2014-07-14 12:09 GMT+02:00 Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com: Why do you need to see God to believe in God? Why should you believe if you can know ? If you can't, why should you believe instead of not believing or go eating an hamburger ? Quentin On 14-Jul-2014, at 2:14 am, meekerdb

Re: Atheist

2014-07-14 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Obviously you never seen Justin Beiber performing live. I can point to art, people with genders, and french literature. I've run a political campaign. But I've never seen a god. Brent -Original Message- From: meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net To:

Re: Atheist

2014-07-14 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 13 Jul 2014, at 15:09, David Nyman wrote: On 12 July 2014 20:34, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: Of course they wouldn't because 17 is a prime number is a tautology. It's true simply in virtue of it's meaning like x is x. But is it a fact about the world or just a fact about

Re: Atheist

2014-07-14 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 14 Jul 2014, at 08:14, meekerdb wrote: On 7/13/2014 3:47 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Sure: Do you believe in a theist god? I'd like to. So we can keep using the word theology and keep some academic departments that have no subject. This would also include political

Re: Atheist

2014-07-14 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 14 Jul 2014, at 12:09, Samiya Illias wrote: Why do you need to see God to believe in God? Good point, especially coming from a literalist :) I agree that God, actually like a Universe, is not seeable. To see a universe, you would need to send photons, or some thing, to it, and see

Re: Atheist

2014-07-14 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 14 Jul 2014, at 12:53, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-07-14 12:09 GMT+02:00 Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com: Why do you need to see God to believe in God? Why should you believe if you can know ? If you can't, why should you believe instead of not believing or go eating an hamburger

Re: Atheist

2014-07-14 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2014-07-14 17:13 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 14 Jul 2014, at 12:53, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-07-14 12:09 GMT+02:00 Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com: Why do you need to see God to believe in God? Why should you believe if you can know ? If you can't, why should

Re: Atheist

2014-07-14 Thread Samiya Illias
On 14-Jul-2014, at 11:25 am, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-07-14 17:13 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 14 Jul 2014, at 12:53, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-07-14 12:09 GMT+02:00 Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com: Why do you need to see God

Re: Atheist

2014-07-14 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2014-07-14 17:50 GMT+02:00 Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com: On 14-Jul-2014, at 11:25 am, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-07-14 17:13 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 14 Jul 2014, at 12:53, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-07-14 12:09 GMT+02:00 Samiya

Re: Atheist

2014-07-14 Thread Samiya Illias
On 14-Jul-2014, at 11:08 am, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 14 Jul 2014, at 12:09, Samiya Illias wrote: Why do you need to see God to believe in God? Good point, especially coming from a literalist :) :) I agree that God, actually like a Universe, is not seeable.

Re: Atheist

2014-07-14 Thread meekerdb
On 7/14/2014 7:30 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 13 Jul 2014, at 15:09, David Nyman wrote: On 12 July 2014 20:34, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: Of course they wouldn't because 17 is a prime number is a tautology. It's true simply in virtue of it's meaning like x is x. But is it a fact

Re: Atheist

2014-07-14 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote: Why do you need to see God to believe in God? You don't. To believe in God all that is needed in 99 times out of 100 is for your mommy and daddy to tell you that there is a God. Not only that but your mommy and daddy will tell

Re: Atheist

2014-07-14 Thread Samiya Illias
On 14-Jul-2014, at 2:00 pm, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote: Why do you need to see God to believe in God? You don't. To believe in God all that is needed in 99 times out of 100 is for your mommy and daddy to

Re: Atheist

2014-07-14 Thread Samiya Illias
On 14-Jul-2014, at 12:00 pm, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-07-14 17:50 GMT+02:00 Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com: On 14-Jul-2014, at 11:25 am, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-07-14 17:13 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On

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