Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp memory leak

2008-04-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 22:06 -0400, Andrei Simion wrote: This is what I obtained after the Gimp server crashed. That's it, it doesn't create the swap file after the memory allocated for it finishes. Is this a configuration problem? Sorry, but I don't understand that question. You are

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp memory leak

2008-04-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 11:21 -0400, Andrei Simion wrote: I noticed that the memory used by the Gimp server when batch generating images goes higher and higher and after no physical memory is left, then the Gimp server crashes. That is the usual behavior of all applications based on

Re: [Gimp-developer] Running Gimp 2.4.x and 2.5.0 side by side

2008-04-28 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 21:01 +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: Well. I compiled it with --enable-shared=no --enable-static=yes, and it works fine. It seems slightly faster on some operations (Although I could easily be imagining that), but sadly still doesn't resolve my issue of the

Re: [Gimp-developer] GSoC 2008 - Welcome, students!

2008-04-23 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, thanks to Michael for giving a warm welcome to the students. I think he already mentioned pretty much everything. One detail that wasn't mentioned is that GIMP development is currently closing in for the GIMP 2.6 release. We will make detailed plans for this at the Libre Graphics Meeting. For

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp memory leak

2008-04-22 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 14:58 -0400, Andrei Simion wrote: If one runs a Gimp-Perl script for a number of times, enough to use the whole physical memory, then the Gimp server crashes, it does not create the swap. That's it, no swap file is created. This may very well be a memory leak in

Re: [Gimp-developer] Change size and ratio of Gimp Preview

2008-04-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 09:57 +0200, Torsten Neuer wrote: As far as I can see, the width and height of the widget can't be adjusted manually. If that is what you want, I would take GimpZoomPreview as a starting point to write a new GimpPreview class. It probably would be just a copy

Re: [Gimp-developer] Change size and ratio of Gimp Preview

2008-04-17 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 11:15 +0200, Nicolás Serrano Martínez Santos wrote: Hi! I'm trying to develop an interface of a plugin and I would like to use a rectangular gimp preview widget. Despite I've been looking over the documentation of this class and the parents in GTK+ the widgets is

Re: [Gimp-developer] A simple (?) question...

2008-04-11 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Fri, 2008-04-11 at 11:54 +0200, Torsten Neuer wrote: It seems pretty fast and also seems to work (at least I get the same value for the identical images and different values for different images). I thought that it was low-level enough not to use pixel_rgn related functions - or

Re: [Gimp-developer] get mouse feedback within plug-in?

2008-04-11 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Fri, 2008-04-11 at 23:43 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alpha-matting is kind of orthogonal to segmentation. At least in my version, it requires the user to define what is to be segmented (a very rough silhouette) but then, the results are sometimes of very high quality, especially

Re: [Gimp-developer] A simple (?) question...

2008-04-10 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Thu, 2008-04-10 at 18:04 +0200, Torsten Neuer wrote: Regarding the MD5 implementation in limbgimpmath, it would have been nice if I could use it, but I cannot as I have to produce an MD5 on the whole drawable, which means that I whould have to run gimp_md5_update() on every tile.

Re: [Gimp-developer] A simple (?) question...

2008-04-09 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 09:27 +0930, David Gowers wrote: What you are talking about is a hash function. There is a string hasher in GLib that should do what you want. The string hash function in GLib is not suitable for this job. Torsten doesn't want to hash a string, he is asking for a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Activating actions through the PDB

2008-04-02 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 14:21 +1030, David Gowers wrote: This second class is really all I can see traditional plugins needing to do after GEGLification is complete and stable. Ie. the first class of plugins wouldn't need to use the PDB at all, probably. Do you agree with this idea?

Re: [Gimp-developer] ‘no image’ window: prog ress...

2008-03-30 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sun, 2008-03-30 at 14:05 +0200, Tobias Jakobs wrote: You can try the transient-docks feature in the Preferences dialog. It has issues, but it will cause the toolbox and dock windows to minimize with the active image window. It only minimised the dock windows and not the toolbox.

Re: [Gimp-developer] 'no image' window: progress...

2008-03-30 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, the Open dialog is a poor replacement for a file manager. If you only use it as a drag source, then why not just use your file manager instead? Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU

Re: [Gimp-developer] 'no image' window: progress...

2008-03-30 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sun, 2008-03-30 at 14:54 +, Laxminarayan Kamath wrote: People using mc should not worry about drag and drop. They should use Menu(F9)CommandsEdit extensions file and friends and add gimp-remote as handler for extensions you want. With gimp-2.4, the use of gimp-remote is deprecated,

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp-Perl memory leak

2008-03-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 14:20 -0400, Andrei Simion wrote: The script that is causing problems has 630 lines of code. It would help a lot if you could reduce the script to the most basic script that still shows the problem. Then we know better where to look for an error. Sven

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp-Perl memory leak

2008-03-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 22:11 -0400, Andrei Simion wrote: I run Gimp 2.2 on a Red Hat machine. The Perl scripts delete the images that are created by using gimp_image_delete. Even so, the swap file is created and it inflates significantly. For instance, after creating 250 images its

Re: [Gimp-developer] Comments on GUI changes

2008-03-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sat, 2008-03-29 at 10:03 +0200, Alexia Death wrote: What I like: *Toolboxes moving with image window Currently its very buggy, toolboxes disappear completely when image is out of focus and don't always reappear to taskbar or come up with image. IMHO that is

Re: [Gimp-developer] GSOC On-canvas text editing question

2008-03-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sat, 2008-03-29 at 16:18 +0100, Erik Jonsson wrote: The first task on the list is port the text core to PangoCairo. Could someone please explain that a little further? I've started looking at the source but I'm still not perfectly clear about how everything works, but it seems that

Re: [Gimp-developer] ‘no image’ window: prog ress...

2008-03-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 20:02 -0500, jbaker wrote: o What would really be nice and make the dropzone a lot more usable... if there is was a file browser built into it... We are definitely not going to do that. File management is a rather complex task, very specific to

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp-Perl memory leak

2008-03-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sat, 2008-03-29 at 15:34 -0400, Andrei Simion wrote: I read that the tiles in the files should be empty in order to allow the swap to resize itself. But how I can do that? Is there a method that should be called after deleting the image? Sorry, but you obviously do not understand

Re: [Gimp-developer] ?no image? window: progress...

2008-03-28 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 15:31 -0300, Guillermo Espertino wrote: About the graying out toolbox, dockers and elements not used when no image is open, I think it breaks a functionality that is already present in gimp: the ability to custumize the interface (moving dialogs to dockers,

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp-developer Digest, Vol 66, Issue 46

2008-03-28 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 03:18 +0100, Alchemie foto\grafiche wrote: just a example File/open location now tooltip is open a image from a specific location what i would like is simply open a image from a specific location...for more info click HERE And a click on that HERE( or clicking

Re: [Gimp-developer] ‘no image’ window: prog ress...

2008-03-28 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi Peter, On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 20:58 +0100, peter sikking wrote: check it out when you have the chance. As you can see from the responses to your mail, there are quite a few trolls on this list who aren't even willing to try the new stuff. Otherwise we wouldn't have gotten so many responses

Re: [Gimp-developer] ‘no image’ window: prog ress...

2008-03-28 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 08:40 +, Laxminarayan Kamath wrote: The best way to fight trolls in this case may be to post a screen-shot of the current trunk on the Wiki. A screenshot can't show all the changes and you actually need to use the software to find out how it feels. I may post some

Re: [Gimp-developer] ‘no image’ window: prog ress...

2008-03-28 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 11:34 +0100, Tobias Jakobs wrote: - If I minimise the last image it would be nice if the toolbox and the layer window would be hidden too. Or add an way to see the complet desktop to find images I've placed there. You can try the transient-docks feature in the

Re: [Gimp-developer] ?no image? window: progress...

2008-03-28 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 13:41 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so why are they greyed out ? They aren't. That's the wrong assumption you are making. Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU

Re: [Gimp-developer] ?no image? window: progress...

2008-03-28 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 13:27 -0300, Guillermo Espertino wrote: You're assuming, as usual, that a final user should compile the svn code, know how to deal with the installed version and the development version in the same machine, etc. Otherwise the user can't speak his mind. I am

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp-developer Digest, Vol 66, Issue 46

2008-03-28 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 08:58 +0100, Sven Neumann wrote: The new tooltips system in GTK+ allows arbitrary widgets as tooltips, so something like this would even be possible. I am not sure if clicking into a tooltip is supported though. Perhaps someone wants to give it a try... I've added

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp-Perl memory leak

2008-03-27 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 22:11 -0400, Andrei Simion wrote: I run Gimp 2.2 on a Red Hat machine. The Perl scripts delete the images that are created by using gimp_image_delete. Even so, the swap file is created and it inflates significantly. For instance, after creating 250 images its

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp-Perl memory leak

2008-03-27 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 09:28 -0400, Andrei Simion wrote: When I reported this issue on Gimp 1.2, you said it wasn't maintained any longer and to try version 2.2. I'll see if the upgrade can be done to version 2.4. It took us years to get GIMP 2.4 out of the door. Obviously you guys are

Re: [Gimp-developer] batch-processing gallery

2008-03-26 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 10:06 -0700, Bill Skaggs wrote: If you can build the svn-trunk version of gimp (which by the way is a very useful thing to do if you are interested in soc), you can find there a new gegl tool that allows a long list of operations to be performed, but has a pretty

Re: [Gimp-developer] Feature idea for GSoC - Separate+ Plugin integration.

2008-03-26 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 20:20 -0400, Robert Krawitz wrote: A lot of what was described about separate+ is already present in the Gutenprint plugin for GIMP (and I think also in Cinepaint), and also in PhotoPrint, which is a standalone application layered on the Gutenprint core. I'd rather

Re: [Gimp-developer] Feature idea for GSoC - Separate+ Plugin integration

2008-03-26 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 04:07 -0300, Guillermo Espertino wrote: About the plugin itself, it already provides profiles management. Profile management should be left to the GIMP application and to widgets provided by it. It doesn't make sense if every plug-in does its own thing here. It's

Re: [Gimp-developer] batch-processing gallery

2008-03-26 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 00:55 +0900, Souichi TAKASHIGE wrote: Do you mean every stroke path like interactive paint tool MUST become an graph nodes ? Probably not an individual graph node, but it will be kept in a paint operation node which itself stores each stroke so that it can be edited

Re: [Gimp-developer] Porting colormap editor to Cairo

2008-03-25 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 01:05 +0100, Olof-Joachim Frahm wrote: One thing what could be done is representing the current colormap as a palette and therefore as a entry in the list of palettes. That would be quite similiar to the four internal gradients, only that it requires a bit more

Re: [Gimp-developer] batch-processing gallery

2008-03-25 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 23:27 -0600, Joshua Stratton wrote: I recently setup a proposal for Google Summer of Code that involves a gallery-style batch processor--a separate window that could display various sorting routines on images based on brightness, size, energy level, etc. Images

Re: [Gimp-developer] Feature idea for GSoC - Separate+ Plugin integration.

2008-03-24 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 13:34 -0300, Guillermo Espertino wrote: First of all, sorry if this is the wrong place or moment to post this. II think that integrating the separate+ plugin to Gimp would be a great GSoC project. Doesn't sound like it would be worth making this a GSoC project. In

Re: [Gimp-developer] Feature idea for GSoC - Separate+ Plugin integration.

2008-03-24 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 18:01 +0100, Sven Neumann wrote: As far as I can see all that is needed for integration of the seperate+ plug-in is someone who volunteers to review the code and the user interface and to propose it for inclusion on this list. An alternative that we should consider

Re: [Gimp-developer] GSoC : On-canvas text editing

2008-03-23 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sun, 2008-03-23 at 16:16 +0800, 熊咖啡 wrote: I'm interested in the project On-canvas text editing. There are significant differences between Chinese and Western language. For example, A Chinese character's width equivalent two English letters' width, and Chinese characters must be input

Re: [Gimp-developer] GSoC: adjustment layers

2008-03-23 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 23:15 +0100, Ruben Vermeersch wrote: As a photographer, my main use case for the GIMP is doing curves adjustments. Not having adjustment layers has never stopped me from using our beloved GIMP, but it has led to some annoyance. As such, I would like to help out in

Re: [Gimp-developer] Porting colormap editor to Cairo

2008-03-23 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sun, 2008-03-23 at 00:07 +0100, Olof-Joachim Frahm wrote: I was told that I should write here if I'd like to help on the rewrite for the colormap editor and since I've got more time now, it's a good new starting point to do something useful ;) Nice. So I thought using

Re: [Gimp-developer] Prototype of PaintBrush extension framework.

2008-03-23 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sun, 2008-03-23 at 17:45 +0900, Souichi TAKASHIGE wrote: To implement the brush modifier framework, I want to allow some privileged modules to access internals of Gimp core objects (those are passed as the arguments of the callback functions.) Sorry, but that is not going to happen.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Just wanted to say hi

2008-03-21 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 21:57 +0100, Tom Bass wrote: I'm no linux-geek, I'm based on Windows, so I'm interested in helping out in the Win-Parts of Gimp - if there's still some help needed ;-) There are a few Windows specific bug reports and enhancement requests that we need help with. You

Re: [Gimp-developer] gsoc project

2008-03-19 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, this sounds like an interesting project, but it is very much directed towards scientific image processing which seems quite out-of-scope for GIMP. Of course such a plug-in could be written and it would be a nice addition for a very special and very small user group. But I don't think it would

Re: [Gimp-developer] Synchronization of GSoC responses

2008-03-19 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2008-03-19 at 16:03 +, Omari Stephens wrote: It seems counterproductive that Rafael Mesquita received three separate responses that started off pretty identically (even though they included unique and useful information). I'd like to offer the suggestion that, when

Re: [Gimp-developer] ‘no image’ window: prog ress...

2008-03-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 05:38 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the goal of making the Toolbox a utility window or dock should be addressed directly as an overall goal (THE overall goal?). That would seem the main point of this exercise. Removing the menubar from the Toolbox in

Re: [Gimp-developer] Rotation for brushes

2008-03-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sat, 2008-03-15 at 23:02 -0700, David G. wrote: Add a option to rotate brushes to compliment the scaling. In case someone wants to start working on this, here's a rough outline of what needs to be done: (1) Rename the scale() method of GimpBrush to transform(). (2) Add an angle

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP to adopt this scripts

2008-03-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 14:13 -0700, David G. wrote: I'm not saying that GIMP developers should choose the whole project and integrate the scripts because that would make a big mess, but common things like Inner Glow , gradient overlay and so on are things that are used pretty much in

Re: [Gimp-developer] New text_layer.pdb file for the PDB

2008-03-14 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Fri, 2008-03-14 at 13:59 +0100, Marcus Heese wrote: so for now I've finished my work on the new implementation of the text layer in the PDB api. Thanks a lot. The most actualized version can always be downloaded from here: http://www.cip.ifi.lmu.de/~heese/text_layer.pdb I don't

Re: [Gimp-developer] New text_layer.pdb file for the PDB

2008-03-14 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Fri, 2008-03-14 at 13:59 +0100, Marcus Heese wrote: Hello together, so for now I've finished my work on the new implementation of the text layer in the PDB api. The most actualized version can always be downloaded from here: http://www.cip.ifi.lmu.de/~heese/text_layer.pdb Oh,

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-user] How can I specify the tranformation matrix for a perpsective directly

2008-03-13 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 15:42 -0500, Leonard Evens wrote: Perhaps we are getting too far afield, but it would also be useful in these circumstances to be able to make micro adjustments of the handles by using the shift keys. One person told me this was possible in an earlier version of

Re: [Gimp-developer] Prototype of PaintBrush extension framework.

2008-03-13 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 08:56 -0700, Bill Skaggs wrote: In Gimp, and other programs that use Glib, *modules* are program-fragments that can be compiled separately from the main application, and linked in dynamically while the program is running. They differ from plug-ins in that once

Re: [Gimp-developer] Prototype of PaintBrush extension framework.

2008-03-12 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 03:06 +0900, Souichi TAKASHIGE wrote: I'm recently working on developing new PaintBrush extension framework. It's on early development stage, but I'd like to get comments about the framework. This looks very interesting. It would help a lot if you could send the

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp_patterns_get_list

2008-03-11 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 22:54 -0700, Bill Skaggs wrote: It's all at: http://developer.gimp.org/api/2.0/libgimp/index.html Please note that this is the API for plug-ins written in C. If you are accessing the PDB directly or by means of another language binding, there are (sometimes subtle)

Re: [Gimp-developer] no-image-open redux

2008-03-11 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 22:25 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It takes about 10 seconds to start it for the first time on my machine, later it's up in about 4 seconds. About a quarter of this time is spent starting script-fu. Yeah. Script-Fu and the data files (brushes, gradients, ...) are

Re: [Gimp-developer] no-image-open redux

2008-03-10 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sat, 2008-03-08 at 18:21 -0200, Guillermo Espertino wrote: I'm afraid that this no image window sounds more and more like the photoshop-esque gray background window that everybody have been asking for all these years. We aren't talking about an extra window here. Please don't call it

Re: [Gimp-developer] GSOC 2008 ideas

2008-03-10 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 22:39 -0300, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote: == Tagging of GIMP resources == The tasks in this project include: * adding a way for gimp resources to be tagged This actually already exists in trunk with the GimpTagged interface. But it's probably OK to keep it here as a

Re: [Gimp-developer] script-fu menu

2008-03-10 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sat, 2008-03-08 at 14:29 -0500, Kevin Cozens wrote: I don't know if you would consider a library as being part of the GIMP core. This feature could be implemented in a new GIMP library or as part of libgimpui. How so? This is really something that can be implemented in about ten

Re: [Gimp-developer] no-image-open redux

2008-03-10 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 18:43 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: It takes ~7 sec on my 4 years old laptop (running Linux, a top model at the time of buying) and ~20 (or more) second on my old workstation (Windows) at work. While I agree with you on the tips thing, I think it's worth

Re: [Gimp-developer] no-image-open redux

2008-03-08 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 20:48 -0500, Rick Yorgason wrote: I understand that people want to find a way to show tips in an unobtrusive way, but maybe we can take a hint (no pun intended) from video games here: the loading screen would be a great place for tips, since the user has nothing

Re: [Gimp-developer] no-image-open redux

2008-03-08 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 13:37 -0800, Bill Skaggs wrote: 1) The toolbar shows most of the things a user might want to do with no image open, but not quite all. Aquire, or Open as layers, could be added, or even Create, which would access the menu for creating buttons, logos etc. About

Re: [Gimp-developer] no-image-open redux

2008-03-08 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sat, 2008-03-08 at 09:49 -0800, Bill Skaggs wrote: After discussing these things with Enselic on IRC, I've come to realize that the most basic question is what we expect the user to do with this window. If we expect the user to mainly keep it minimized, and only bring it up when

Re: [Gimp-developer] no-image-open redux

2008-03-08 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, I should probably add that of course the toolbox and probably another dock window will also be open. So there is really no point in making this a small window. It should be large enough to serve as the parent window for all palette windows that the user configured for GIMP. A lot of users

Re: [Gimp-developer] Adding SpaceNavigator support

2008-03-05 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2008-03-05 at 19:47 +0100, GSR - FR wrote: Then the next question is what part is missing for full support, as examples like http://www.fox-toolkit.org/news.html seem to point it is supported to some level. Support for Linux Input devices in GIMP has been around long before X.org

Re: [Gimp-developer] script-fu menu

2008-03-04 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sun, 2008-03-02 at 13:34 -0500, Kevin Cozens wrote: You can't do either of the above in Script-Fu. Adding new parameter types to allow adding extra text or horizontal lines is possible but is not currently on the ToDo list. What about the possibility to add an example image as

Re: [Gimp-developer] Adding SpaceNavigator support

2008-03-04 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 10:27 +0100, Simon Budig wrote: Does moving the device hard or soft make a difference in terms of what input events the Linux kernel delivers? The value element of the struct input_event may contain values with an absolute value 1. It should be possible then

Re: [Gimp-developer] script-fu menu

2008-03-04 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 17:16 -0500, Kevin Cozens wrote: It would be a useful feature. Again, it isn't on my ToDo list for Script-Fu. This feature would be of enough general use that it should be available to all scripting systems. I don't see this as a feature that the GIMP core would

Re: [Gimp-developer] Adding SpaceNavigator support

2008-03-04 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 22:23 +0100, GSR - FR wrote: We aren't talking about X input events here but raw Linux input events. Could someone explain the adventages of not using the same path than with tablets and taking a shortcut? The only advantage is that you can access a device that

Re: [Gimp-developer] GSOC 2008 - ideas

2008-03-02 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sun, 2008-03-02 at 07:44 -0300, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote: I am posting the full set of ideas bellow and asking for commetns on ideas, new ideas, and overall, people who would be willing to mentor a stundet through some of them. Sorry, the text you posted is so badly formatted that I

[Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.4.5

2008-03-01 Thread Sven Neumann
missing preview update in Curves tool (bug #518012) - fixed a bug in the Frosty Logo script (bug #472316) - fixed backward transformations using the PDB (bug #518910) - translation fixes and updates (de, eu, eo, fr, he, hu, it, ja, ko) Contributors: Sven Neumann, Michael Natterer, Bill Skaggs

[Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.4.5

2008-03-01 Thread Sven Neumann
missing preview update in Curves tool (bug #518012) - fixed a bug in the Frosty Logo script (bug #472316) - fixed backward transformations using the PDB (bug #518910) - translation fixes and updates (de, eu, eo, fr, he, hu, it, ja, ko) Contributors: Sven Neumann, Michael Natterer, Bill Skaggs

[Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.4.5

2008-03-01 Thread Sven Neumann
missing preview update in Curves tool (bug #518012) - fixed a bug in the Frosty Logo script (bug #472316) - fixed backward transformations using the PDB (bug #518910) - translation fixes and updates (de, eu, eo, fr, he, hu, it, ja, ko) Contributors: Sven Neumann, Michael Natterer, Bill Skaggs

Re: [Gimp-developer] tile ref count balance warning

2008-02-24 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sat, 2008-02-23 at 22:09 -0500, Brennan Sellner wrote: I'm developing a reasonably complex plugin for GIMP 2.4 in C++ (using GIMP and libgimp 2.4.2 on Ubuntu 7.10), and am currently having trouble with a Heisenbug: after running my plugin with a particular set of parameters, when I

Re: [Gimp-developer] improved drawing modes

2008-02-23 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 12:05 +0100, Radoslav Schudich wrote: For example: You draw or edit an image with a simple brush, when you want to erase some stuff, you switch to the eraser, but this one has different brush size, shape, opacity than the first tool. If this is a frequent

Re: [Gimp-developer] no image open spec...

2008-02-20 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 11:34 +1030, David Gowers wrote: There is no guarantee that there will be any taskbar at all. On linux, there are plenty of WM's that either provide a taskbar that is not suitable to implement your described behaviour, or no taskbar at all ( i use one of these

Re: [Gimp-developer] change layout of mode menus?

2008-02-19 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 12:35 +0100, Daniel Hornung wrote: Well, perhaps not deprecated in the don't use this API sense. Their use is discouraged. And not by the GTK+ developers but by usability experts. Tearoff menus might sometimes be useful for the power-user but for almost all

Re: [Gimp-developer] no image open spec...

2008-02-19 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 19:46 +0100, peter sikking wrote: Just like Sven or Mitch cut the crap when users keep discussing things that are technically not possible, I have to cut the crap when we keep discussing interaction that simply does not make sense. OK. As long as the result is

Re: [Gimp-developer] no image open spec...

2008-02-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 12:21 +0100, Tobias Jakobs wrote: You can see the problem very good, if you start Krita. Krita has such a yelling start dialog. But I'm not sure if not having common tasks in the start window is the solution or if we just have to design it more carefully than Krita.

Re: [Gimp-developer] no image open spec...

2008-02-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 14:54 +0100, peter sikking wrote: Our core users are people who know what they are doing. They do not need 'help'. Yes, they do. This dialog is the first thing people see when starting GIMP. And a large fraction of our users are beginners. So we have a good chance

Re: [Gimp-developer] scripting problems

2008-02-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 21:02 +0100, Sven Neumann wrote: I don't think using --batch - works with python-fu-eval. It might make sense to add this as a special case just like it is being done for script-fu-eval now. Please ignore what I said. python-fu-eval does special-case the - command

Re: [Gimp-developer] scripting problems

2008-02-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 11:05 -0800, Al Niessner wrote: I have found posts related to this error in the forum, but nothing really matches. I have also googled for a solution and found none. The difficulty that I am having starts with this really simple python script in a file called

Re: [Gimp-developer] scripting problems

2008-02-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 11:05 -0800, Al Niessner wrote: I expect the the line I am running the script to print and then GIMP to exit -- see http://www.gimp.org/docs/python/index.html for details on gimp.quit(). The documentation you are looking at is hopelessly outdated. gimp.quit() exits

Re: [Gimp-developer] scripting problems

2008-02-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 21:26 +0100, Sven Neumann wrote: I expect the the line I am running the script to print and then GIMP to exit -- see http://www.gimp.org/docs/python/index.html for details on gimp.quit(). The documentation you are looking at is hopelessly outdated. gimp.quit

Re: [Gimp-developer] scripting problems

2008-02-18 Thread Sven Neumann
On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 13:27 -0800, Al Niessner wrote: Personally, pdb.gimp_quit(0) makes just as much sense as gimp.exit() as long as it noted somewhere. All PDB procedures are documented in the Procedure Browser that you can reach from the Xtns menu in the toolbox. Sven

Re: [Gimp-developer] change layout of mode menus?

2008-02-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 10:05 -0800, Akkana Peck wrote: There are very good reasons why tear-off menus are deprecated. They don't solve usability issues but introduce them. They're deprecated? It figures that something so useful would be. Well, perhaps not deprecated in the don't use

Re: [Gimp-developer] no image open spec...

2008-02-17 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 05:13 -0200, Guillermo Espertino wrote: Anyway, I'd would like to know why common tasks wouldn't fit there Yeah, I would also like to know that. And finally... a drag here sign sounds as a gimmick too for me. Indeed. In particular since we already found that using

Re: [Gimp-developer] IWarp as a tool

2008-02-17 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sat, 2008-02-16 at 17:29 -0800, Bill Skaggs wrote: I have doubts that the Warp tool should be a paint tool at all -- it certainly doesn't use a brush. If it doesn't use a brush, then it is not a GimpBrushTool. It can still, and probably even should, be a GimpPaintTool. Sven

Re: [Gimp-developer] IWarp as a tool

2008-02-16 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Fri, 2008-02-15 at 20:43 +0200, Tor Lillqvist wrote: what is the proper division of tasks between a GimpTool and a GimpPaintCore? A GimpPaintCore is an object used by paint tools. It does the actual painting and it is also used when the painting is done by means of a PDB call. A

Re: [Gimp-developer] change layout of mode menus?

2008-02-16 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Fri, 2008-02-15 at 13:13 -0800, Bill Skaggs wrote: I'm attaching a screenshot showing a typical incarnation of the Paint Mode menu, using the Default Gimp theme and Ubuntu's default Human theme. I don't think I have to persuade anybody that this is less than ideal from a usability

Re: [Gimp-developer] $HOME

2008-02-16 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, I am not convinced that your patch is doing the right thing. But it definitely adds too much complexity to the code. It would be better to define gimp_get_home_dir() in libgimpbase/gimpenv.c und use that all over the place. Sven ___

Re: [Gimp-developer] IWarp as a tool

2008-02-16 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Fri, 2008-02-15 at 12:57 +0200, Tor Lillqvist wrote: So, how to solve this? Should the bookeeping of deformation vectors be done per-drawawble by the GimpWarpTool object (a subclass of GimpPaintTool) and not GimpWarp object? No, the tool class shouldn't do anything but providing the

Re: [Gimp-developer] $HOME

2008-02-16 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sat, 2008-02-16 at 17:25 +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote: I see no point how to make it more simple. 3 lines vs. one line is not that more complexity. It is three times as complex. And we will most likely want to make it even more complex and add a check that the directory pointed to by the

[Gimp-developer] XDG Base Directory Specification

2008-02-16 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, before we accept Klaus patch or anything like that, we should discuss how we can implement the XDG Base Directory Specification in GIMP without breaking backward compatibility: http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html Sven

Re: [Gimp-developer] change layout of mode menus?

2008-02-16 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sat, 2008-02-16 at 10:11 -0800, Akkana Peck wrote: In a way, the mode list is like the font list in the text tool: that combobox, like the mode option menu, is way too long and unweildy to navigate, but for font choosing you have another option, the Fonts dialog, which makes the

Re: [Gimp-developer] change layout of mode menus?

2008-02-16 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sat, 2008-02-16 at 10:47 -0800, Bill Skaggs wrote: Well, it would be very easy to make the layer mode menu support a tearoff. It can literally be done by adding two lines of C code. (I just tested.) There are very good reasons why tear-off menus are deprecated. They don't solve

Re: [Gimp-developer] change layout of mode menus?

2008-02-15 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 21:47 -0800, Bill Skaggs wrote: One of the minor annoyances of using Gimp is that the Layer Mode menu (and paint mode menu, etc) is unpleasantly long -- for me, it nearly extends from the top to the bottom of the screen. It would actually be very easy to change the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Bug? Clone Tool after Merge Layers

2008-02-13 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 09:05 -0500, Liam R E Quin wrote: On Mon, 2008-02-11 at 21:39 -0500, Brendan wrote: [...] Layer Mask gets squashed down with a Merge Visible Layers command. After that, I can't seem to get the Clone or Heal or really any drawing tool to work on the image.

Re: [Gimp-developer] IWarp as a tool

2008-02-13 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 02:06 +0200, Tor Lillqvist wrote: Currently it allocates a big buffer for the deformation vectors, two doubles for each pixel in the image. This should probably be changed to either use tile-based storage, or use a scaled (when necessary) deformation vector array

Re: [Gimp-developer] Merged Image not able to be drawn on...

2008-02-13 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 20:05 -0500, Brendan wrote: I have an image that I have worked on, had multiple layers, then when merged down, it cannot be drawn on directly, even though only one layer is shown and no error message pops up. The single layer that is shown, is it selected? There

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