Re: [Gimp-developer] RGB vs RGBA - why Add Alpha Channel?

2001-02-23 Thread egger
On 22 Feb, Sven Neumann wrote: We'll face one problem if we decide to make alpha the default for all images: A lot of fileformats do not understand alpha and you actually don't want to save the alpha channel with the image at all if you never touched it. One way to solve this would be to

Re: [Gimp-developer] RGB vs RGBA - why Add Alpha Channel?

2001-02-24 Thread egger
On 23 Feb, Nick Lamb wrote: Does this mean that you agree to ditching all the special code for the 3 and 1 byte case as well? I'd really love to see this changes although as already stated this might introduce a bit memory overhead in case the user didn't use the alpha channel at all.

Re: [Gimp-developer] A typo in preferences_dialog.c

2001-03-05 Thread egger
On 4 Mar, Sven Neumann wrote: Oh, that preferences code really sucks. Hope we will be able to redo it properly for 1.4 (eventually using gconf ?!). Anyway, thanks for the patch, I'll apply it to both branches. We should really start discussing which dependencies would be acceptable to

Re: [Gimp-developer] Patches to 1.2.1 for --with-included-gettext and HP-UX 11.00

2001-03-06 Thread egger
On 6 Mar, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS: IMHO we should change the policy for patches. Handling them via FTP has never worked that well. Patches should go to the list (preferably with the word [patch] in the subject) or/and to bugzilla. Why not use SourceForge to manage patches? Because

Re: [Gimp-developer] jpeg files

2001-03-11 Thread egger
On 10 Mar, peter pajak wrote: i've installed gimp 1.2.1, works great, but i can not neither open nor save a jpeg file, i had all the required components (jpeg-6b included) but still does not work. running on freebsd. Peter, is JPEG listed as file format in the save dialog? What does "ldd

Re: [Gimp-developer] Bug in Sobel edge detect?

2001-03-11 Thread egger
On 11 Mar, Austin Donnelly wrote: Here's a patch that fixes this, relative to the sobel.c that's in 1.2.1. Can someone stick this in stable CVS and also merge it with the current development head. Thanks! Good spotting. Applied to HEAD and GIMP1.2 branch -- Servus, Daniel

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-china-010306-0

2001-04-04 Thread egger
On 2 Apr, Sven Neumann wrote: it, rebuild gimp and give it a little testing. Once it gets applied, we should consider doing a 1.2.2 release probably including the updated HTML help files from the gimp-help CVS module. That would be nice indeed. -- Servus, Daniel

Re: [Gimp-developer] [patch] Major speedup for whirlpinch plugin

2001-04-09 Thread egger
On 5 Apr, Kelly Martin wrote: Tiles are 64x64 by default, and changing them is a bad idea because it makes your .xcf files nontransportable. Not to forget that this size is more or less hardcoded. -- Servus, Daniel ___ Gimp-developer

Re: [Gimp-developer] Bugs 52383 and 52385

2001-04-24 Thread egger
On 23 Apr, Raphael Quinet wrote: This bug report shows that the default owner is [EMAIL PROTECTED] We could do that too, and all bug reports that are currently assigned to Daniel could be re-assigned to the Gimp bugs list. Agreed. -- Servus, Daniel

Re: [Gimp-developer] Help needed with unconfirmed gimp bugs (especially for Windows)

2001-04-25 Thread egger
On 25 Apr, Sven Neumann wrote: I am trying to help Daniel (and others, hopefully) by dealing with the bug reports in bugzilla. Have you already changed Bugzilla so it sends email about new bug-reports and changes to existing bug-reports? Impossible so far. We first need a [EMAIL

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP on multi-user systems

2001-05-01 Thread egger
On 30 Apr, Allan West wrote: The GIMP documentation, which seems to be aimed at single-user Linux boxes, suggests setting its Tile Cache to half your physical RAM or all of your available RAM. This is obviously not appropriate for 30 concurrent sessions of GIMP. Can anyone provide a rule of

Re: [Gimp-developer] Perl server problem

2001-06-02 Thread egger
On 2 Jun, Sven Neumann wrote: I'd like to see your script or at least have a description of what it did so we can try to debug the behaviour you are describing. Using memprof it should be possible to find your leaks. The last time I checked GIMP with memprof it didn't show any unexpected

Re: [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 1.2.2

2001-07-27 Thread egger
On 27 Jul, Sven Neumann wrote: Please excuse this inconvenience and let's hope the new tarballs work for you. Really bad idea. This means that there are two versions of 1.2.2 floating around; one which build and one that doesn't. I'd REALLY suggest to update the version number Servus,

Re: [Gimp-developer] Solaris 64bit compile

2001-09-04 Thread Daniel Egger
Am 03 Sep 2001 17:45:13 -0700 schrieb Brian Weber: So if I understand you correctly, since the gimps main purpose is to perform bitwise manipulation that 64 bit won't give much of a benefit. No, it's doing bytewise operation on 8, 16, 24 or 32bit data and it has to because many processors

Re: [Gimp-developer] Solaris 64bit compile

2001-09-04 Thread Daniel Egger
Am 04 Sep 2001 15:51:34 +0200 schrieb Sven Neumann: you certainly can process several 8 bit channels in one operation without special support from the processor and I would like to contribute such code to The GIMP Uii, now I'm curious. If you group an RGBA pixel together in a word and want

Re: [Gimp-developer] Solaris 64bit compile

2001-09-06 Thread Daniel Egger
this I like it. I did some benchmarking with a few routines with different compilers on ppc and i686 and here are the results: egger@sonja:~/test time ./testmat Time needed for padd_sat_4x8 in clocks: 555 Time needed for padd_sat_4x8_and in clocks: 664 Time needed for padd_sat_4x8_norm

Re: [Gimp-developer] [ot] GIMP in Hollywood

2001-09-19 Thread Daniel Egger
On Don, 2001-09-20 at 00:08, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: Is this FilmGIMP or something? At least my GIMP 1.2.2 doesn't support any such thing here ;-) Yes, it's the Hollywood branch cut off somewhen around 0.99.x or 1.x. -- Servus, Daniel

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP Translations

2001-10-05 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Fre, 2001-10-05 um 21.40 schrieb 1002310814: Does it bother anyone else that GIMP translations are being handled by Gnome? I sort of enjoyed the whining when it was being handled by GIMP people. Huh? How do you mean? I really don't care who translates our messages as long as the GIMP

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: GIMP Tip of the Day messages

2001-10-05 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Fre, 2001-10-05 um 21.47 schrieb 1002311231: It is like the GIMP help. We write the help in DocBook SGML. It is SGML right now but is written with XML compatibility in mind so we would simply need to flip a switch (in every file that is) to have full XML. It can be converted to cool

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: GIMP Tip of the Day messages

2001-10-05 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2001-10-02 um 19.14 schrieb 1002042874: No, as you say, a header file is probably the easiest solution, Actually if there was an XML parser this would be the simplest solution. It is just that we'd need a parser and I haven't evaluated the GMarkup part of the new glib yet. there is

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: GIMP Tip of the Day messages

2001-10-06 Thread Daniel Egger
On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 11:23:11AM +0200, Sven Neumann wrote: It's a lot more versatile then the header approach with my lovely friend gettext since the information is not spread over several files which need to be generated, compiled and installed. If we had more tips we could even

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: GIMP Tip of the Day messages

2001-10-06 Thread Daniel Egger
On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 02:06:15AM -0600, Nathan C Summers wrote: We can also use XML for its original purpose -- a markup language. Even just adding an emphasis tag can allow tip writers to be emmuch/em more expressive. That's an abuse of a tag. em is a stylistic tag from the HTML days,

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: GIMP Tip of the Day messages

2001-10-06 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Sam, 2001-10-06 um 14.33 schrieb 1002371616: That wasn't my point. I meant that it might be sensible for tips (instead of introducing the header kludge) What is 'the header kludge'? I never got that bit. To use gettext on has to have a file with C syntax; the idea is to have a header

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: GIMP Tip of the Day messages

2001-10-06 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Sam, 2001-10-06 um 12.51 schrieb 1002365476: No prof. You've got it wrong. em means emphasis. It means the text should be given some sort of emphasis. The stylesheets then determine what that emphasis is. (italics, color change, etc.) No, em is HTMLism. There's no em in DocBook for

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: GIMP Tip of the Day messages

2001-10-06 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Sam, 2001-10-06 um 19.05 schrieb 1002387943: That wasn't my point. I meant that it might be sensible for tips (instead of introducing the header kludge) and for plugin descriptions because it makes them more versatile and not bound to the distribution. I was referring to the tips

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: GIMP Tip of the Day messages

2001-10-07 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Sam, 2001-10-06 um 22.59 schrieb 1002401996: To use gettext on has to have a file with C syntax; really??? I've heard there are Perl hacks as well. :) which would be easy, nice and probably very small. Yes, but not very versatile... anyways, if we use another format (xml) and have

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: GIMP Tip of the Day messages

2001-10-07 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Son, 2001-10-07 um 15.32 schrieb 1002461554: Dia uses intltool/xml-i18n-tools for sheet files. That's new then. They didn't when I was translating the sheets. Because one of the fundamentals of easy translation is simply to have the original text handy. This is so you can easily compare

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: GIMP Tip of the Day messages

2001-10-07 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Son, 2001-10-07 um 16.42 schrieb 1002465752: I'm not not exagerating. A typical tip consists of multiple lines (2 to 5) and you can't translate them line by line. My typical emacs setup shows about 42 lines, while the typical distance between the original tip and the translation will be

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: GIMP Tip of the Day messages

2001-10-07 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Son, 2001-10-07 um 17.25 schrieb 1002468356: XML schema has only become a W3C recommendation lately and is probably far from being finally standardized. AFAIK there are only few (if any at all) usable tools out there that can validate XML schema. I think you meant to say DTD here ?! A

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: gimp hangs - possible solutions?

2001-10-07 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Sam, 2001-10-06 um 19.34 schrieb 1002389654: more info, and a possible candidate for bug, and a possible workaround: I just glanced over your bugreport but it seems quite valid and good reasearched to me, posting it here was definitely a good idea but we'd really appreciate if you added it

Re: [Gimp-developer] I18n of gimp tips

2001-10-07 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Son, 2001-10-07 um 18.09 schrieb 1002470948: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? gimp-tips tip name=welcome contentWelcome to The GIMP/content content xml:lang=de_DEWillkommen zu GIMP/content content xml:lang=fr_FRBienvenue sC3A0r GIMP/content /tip /gimp-tips The

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: GIMP Tip of the Day messages

2001-10-07 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Son, 2001-10-07 um 18.29 schrieb 1002472199: Yes, but not very versatile... Why? It contains the tips and a minimum amoutn of clutter. If you equate evrsatile == xml because everybody claims to support it I disagree completely. No, but unlike compiled catalog files xml files can be

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: GIMP Tip of the Day messages

2001-10-07 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Son, 2001-10-07 um 18.43 schrieb 1002473012: Then you should take a new look. It certainly does today. Fine with me. Why should I have to use a special XML editor? You don't have to, that's the trick. How does the editor know what language I want to edit, Easy, you tell it. and how

[Gimp-developer] GIMP help in 1.2.x

2001-10-07 Thread Daniel Egger
Hija, I just updated GIMPs help in the 1.2 branch to the latest stuff from the gimp-help CVS. It also introduces a few new files and directories and thus I had to touch the Makefiles. It would be nice to get some feedback from you whether it works or not on your machine. Thanks from this place

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: GIMP Tip of the Day messages

2001-10-08 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Mon, 2001-10-08 um 03.53 schrieb 1002506022: gettext and po files are a dead end for modular applications because they only behave well for monolithic and small applications; both of which GIMP definitely isn't and for sure even less will be in the future. Evolution certainly isn't

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: GIMP Tip of the Day messages

2001-10-08 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Mon, 2001-10-08 um 17.46 schrieb 1002555985: Which GNOME components does GIMP use? None, that's the point. :) -- Servus, Daniel ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Gimp-developer] patch-1.2.2-1.2.3 is missing several png files

2002-02-16 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Sam, 2002-02-16 um 14.58 schrieb Eddy De Greef: after patching my 1.2.2 sources with the patch provided at the ftp sites, compilation failed because several png files are missing: and possibly others. I hope this can be fixed, because I'd rather not pull the complete tarball through

Re: [Gimp-developer] FYI: new bugzilla target milestone Future

2002-02-22 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Fre, 2002-02-22 um 15.07 schrieb Michael Natterer: I'm about to change lots of target milestone --- bugs to Future right now... Feel free to comment, it's just a method of getting the enhancment flood sorted... Sounds good to me. -- Servus, Daniel

Re: [Gimp-developer] Suggestions for Clone tool.

2002-02-25 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Mon, 2002-02-25 um 15.30 schrieb Stephen J Baker: I have a couple of suggestions for options for the Clone tool: Do not forget to nail them down in bugzilla (bugzilla.gnome.org). -- Servus, Daniel ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL

Re: [Gimp-developer] Yes, you can help even if you can't code.

2002-05-04 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Sam, 2002-05-04 um 15.41 schrieb Ayose: If you need help with a XSLT I will help you pleased :-) Actually if you have experience in that area it would be nice if you could help out with the gimp-help project. -- Servus, Daniel ___

Re: [Gimp-developer] Yes, you can help even if you can't code.

2002-05-04 Thread Daniel Egger
to continue with the help-browser plugin. If you want to help out here, with new DocBook source, simple texts, ideas, scripts or just want to say hi simply mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] and don't forget to CC Mel Boyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Daniel Egger [EMAIL PROTECTED]. You'll get all the support you need

Re: [Gimp-developer] Yes, you can help even if you can't code.

2002-05-04 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Sam, 2002-05-04 um 18.11 schrieb Ayose: I know well the XSLT specification, and I have written a lot of lines of XSLT ;) That's good. Where is info about gimp-help? In http://www.gimp.org/mailing_list.html there is no list for it :/, Yes, mostly because there are almost no people

Re: [Gimp-developer] Yes, you can help even if you can't code.

2002-05-04 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Sam, 2002-05-04 um 18.16 schrieb Sven Neumann: I'd say we port the help_browser plug-in to GtkHtml2. It's able to render quite sophisticated stuff (see http://gtkhtml2.codefactory.se/). Porting the plug-in should be pretty straightforward. The API is not compatible but similar. Fine with

Re: [Gimp-developer] Yes, you can help even if you can't code

2002-05-04 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Son, 2002-05-05 um 00.27 schrieb Nathan C Summers: It would be trivial to add some magic text like $^CUT HERE!^$ where the files need to be cut and then have a postprocessing script written in perl that takes the xslt output and cuts it appropriately. I'm not really happy with that

Re: [Gimp-developer] Yes, you can help even if you can't code

2002-05-05 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Son, 2002-05-05 um 16.52 schrieb Ayose: sablotron is very fast, look this: real0m0.542s user0m0.540s sys 0m0.000s Cool. Well, this is a problem if you want all text in a few files, but slice the content in a lot of files makes easier transforming to HTML, or

Re: [Gimp-developer] Double tile iterators?

2002-07-04 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Don, 2002-07-04 um 14.58 schrieb David Neary: For the moment you have no problems - all tiles are 64x64, and that's hard-coded. It would be nice to have tile sizes modifiable, but that will not happen before 2.0 to the best of my knowledge, and there will be much bigger problems to worry

Re: [Gimp-developer] New thread on GIMP 1.3+

2003-06-20 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Don, 2003-06-19 um 21.44 schrieb David Neary: I'll get the ball rolling: 2.0 1.4 -- Servus, Daniel ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer

Re: [Gimp-developer] tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans

2003-07-19 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Sam, 2003-07-19 um 00.18 schrieb Sven Neumann: I am not sure what you are trying to say here but actually I was hoping to hear some helpful and constructive comments on gimp-help2 from you. Did you read my mail at all? I've read every single mail to the mailinglist however I hoped to

Re: [Gimp-developer] tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans

2003-07-19 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Sam, 2003-07-19 um 14.09 schrieb Branko Collin: Isn't Rebecca Walter part of the team anymore? Her new job took over all her spare time so she couldn't actively participate. She promised to chime in when there's some content to proof it but since there's not much to proof I could spare

Re: [Gimp-developer] tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans

2003-07-19 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Sam, 2003-07-19 um 19.10 schrieb Carol Spears: It is difficult to share a freshman attempt with developers. If anyone is interested in seeing what I am doing, helping, commenting or running it through validation devices, feel free to suggest the best way to share these files. For the

Re: [Gimp-developer] tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans

2003-07-20 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Son, 2003-07-20 um 13.36 schrieb Sven Neumann: You're quoting out of context without replying to me; if you prefer to get an answer you'd better fix that because I might miss a mail in the floods at times. What exactly is the problem with the help-browser in 1.3? I know that there are

Re: [Gimp-developer] tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans

2003-07-21 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Mon, 2003-07-21 um 01.54 schrieb Sven Neumann: This can be easily fixed. We just need to find out what changes we actually want to do. Mitch seems to have a pretty clear idea how it could work and I think we discussed that we need some XML file that maps keywords to HTML pages. I've also

[Gimp-developer] Re: gimp-help2

2003-07-21 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Mon, 2003-07-21 um 17.23 schrieb Sven Neumann: You want us to include an XML renderer in the help-browser? That doesn't sound like a simple solution. Why not? Why should DocBook be more difficult to render than HTML? It doesn't necessarily have to be a DocBook renderer, it could also be a

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help2

2003-07-21 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Mon, 2003-07-21 um 23.21 schrieb Jakub Steiner: I think this would be pretty elegant and would appeal to me personaly to write some particular doc. Write documentation is a horrid picture to me. An insanely large task. Write a particular section actually sounds fun. We have had this

[Gimp-developer] Re: gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-23 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-07-22 um 20.47 schrieb Carol Spears: I tried to work with simple docbook, docbook, website docbook. I don't know how recent your gimp download is but this format is nothing like gimp since gimp-1.0.2. I have to stretch my imagination so much to make the format fit the gimp.

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-23 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-07-22 um 21.57 schrieb David Neary: Actually, I'm not sure I see the benefits in not having html as the primary format... Sure, we could go for a format which allows multi-node searching (like info only better), but html docs would have the added benefit of not needing to be

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-23 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-07-22 um 21.03 schrieb Sven Neumann: usually need a small subset only. I am sure that people who want to contribute documentation can learn the necessary bits pretty fast. Or even better: Don't need to... -- Servus, Daniel signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help2

2003-07-23 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-07-22 um 18.34 schrieb David Neary: Where is the index? And when you say outline do you mean root document with lots of dead links? Nope, I mean like a rough idea of the table of contents: 1. Introduction 1. Welcome to The GIMP 1.1.

[Gimp-developer] Re: gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-23 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Mit, 2003-07-23 um 16.41 schrieb Carol Spears: [ mail stripped down to points that haven't been answered a gazillion times... ] a layout and dtd made for gimp by people who use gimp and need for gimp to document itself and such would be useful for many many applications, i guess. Don't

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-24 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Don, 2003-07-24 um 11.01 schrieb Sven Neumann: Even gimp-1.2 can link to anchors already. There is no need for toplevel HTML files for each and every help topic that should be reachable by pressing F1. In theory, the whole help could be in a single file. That would of course not be useful

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-24 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Don, 2003-07-24 um 15.37 schrieb Sven Neumann: The help-browser behaviour for non-existant anchors could probably be changed. I'd have to look into the GtkHTML2 API to give a more definite answer but I think it should be doable. It would be great if you could look it up because this is a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Could someone add the CVS modules to thedevel page?

2003-07-25 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Fre, 2003-07-25 um 09.31 schrieb David Neary: Up until pretty recently, GNOME CVS had a habit of creating a module as an alias for a directory... I suppose this was so that the aforementioned cvs co -c would work... there is actually no way to know what directories exist in a cvs

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-07-26 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Sam, 2003-07-26 um 13.07 schrieb Roman Joost: I cant find anything related to the gimp-help project at the newer webpage. You're right. There isn't... :( So, if someone could point me to a ressource regarding this project it would be fine. Ressources: - This mailinglist (there had been

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-26 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Sam, 2003-07-26 um 16.39 schrieb Carol Spears: maybe he doesn't have cvs access Doesn't make sense from three perspectives: - One doesn't need CVS to develop a patch - Everyone can get at least anoncvs - There are frequent releases and other means of getting the source I think the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-26 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Son, 2003-07-27 um 00.19 schrieb Patrick McFarland: Wrong, Im an artist, and I prefer 1.3 over 1.2. Good for you. I know at least 6 persons who do not. :) However I'm quite interested in your reasons, would you please elaborate so I can get some feeling what to tell people when they ask me

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-07-27 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Son, 2003-07-27 um 12.36 schrieb Roman Joost: Okey ... i did a fresh checkout from the gimp-help-2 module and get it to work. I attached a 3 lines patch for the configure.in file, because i was wondering about a program called no, which was used, if no xsltproc is installed on the system.

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-07-27 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Son, 2003-07-27 um 14.46 schrieb Roman Joost: Sure, but now its attached ... Thanks, applied. I'm glad it works for you; I haven't received much feedback about it. What OS do you have? Hm ... maybe the files will become really big after adding some different languages (e.g. de, cz ...).

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-07-27 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Son, 2003-07-27 um 14.25 schrieb Roman Joost: In the gimp-help-2 module dir is a directory called stylesheets and the files in there, lookin for me like stylesheets. I think, yeh - there are document style sheets... Yes, there are transormation stylesheets and some really simple CSS

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-07-27 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Son, 2003-07-27 um 15.23 schrieb Roman Joost: Thanks, applied. I'm glad it works for you; I haven't received much feedback about it. What OS do you have? Debian GNU/Linux (sid - unstable) Ok, no surprise that worked. :) Or should the lang specified as an attribute? like:

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-07-27 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Son, 2003-07-27 um 16.45 schrieb Carol Spears: you run down failing pathways. i cannot go with you. do the people contributing or trying to contribute get a say? Sure they do. [ Absolutely useless rant deleted ] I've no idea what happened to you in the last months but whatever it is,

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-07-27 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Son, 2003-07-27 um 19.16 schrieb Roman Joost: 1. The German Umlauts are really annoying. Are there some pre-processors, which checks the umlauts and replaces them with an utf entity (or the predifined HTML umlauts... what else...)? If not, it think i'll write a little

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-07-28 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Mon, 2003-07-28 um 17.47 schrieb Joao S. O. Bueno: In Portuguese, the current use is for a male article - and trying making it female would be pretty bizarre. As fa as I can recall, all computer prograns or aplications are refered as male here. But anyway, many words have their genders

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-28 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-07-29 um 00.07 schrieb Henrik Brix Andersen: I remember using something like the following to use the ids as filenames once: (define %use-id-as-filename% #t) Yeah, this is what we did years back with DocBook/SGML and DSSSL stylesheets. :) The help browser could then check if

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-28 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-07-29 um 01.06 schrieb Alastair Robinson: OK, maybe painful was an exaggeration; really it was just time-consuming; I'm using SuSE 8.0, and don't have -devel packages for even gtk+-1.2 packages on the original CDs. Interesting, I'm pretty sure I put the devel packages on the CD.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Wrong terminology in color picker tool

2003-07-28 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-07-29 um 02.14 schrieb Sven Neumann: Are you refering to the GimpColorTools here? (Derivatives of GimpColorTool are all the color correction tools as well as the paint tools.) You are right that we are using a square area here but since the value in question describes the half

Re: [Gimp-developer] Wrong terminology in color picker tool

2003-07-29 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-07-29 um 10.33 schrieb Sven Neumann: The shape displayed is what's used to sample, that's not a question. Make it configurable doesn't seem like a good idea here. I guess most people will agree that a circle is the natural choice. I don't. The colorpicker ist quite handy to

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2

2003-08-18 Thread Daniel Egger
in no time. Since the question popped up again, the primary contact person would be me (Daniel Egger [EMAIL PROTECTED]) for all concerns or Roman (Roman Joost [EMAIL PROTECTED]) especially for documentation concern and the German translation. I hope we'll get a website in place rather soon for those

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: gimp-help2

2003-08-18 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-08-19 um 00.15 schrieb Branko Collin: Didn't work for GIMP 1.2 so I doubt it will here. We haven't received a single contribution for the help in whatever form; maybe the Eek scared people off or something... Do you mean the following text? Yeah, that was the eek text.

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2

2003-08-18 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-08-19 um 00.44 schrieb Sven Neumann: From looking at the CVS module I didn't have the impression that the file structure is prepared for i18n. If you decided to keep all translations of a topic together in the same file that's fine, but shouldn't the C directory be completely

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2

2003-08-18 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-08-19 um 01.35 schrieb Sven Neumann: I have a plan but I felt it's up to you to provide a sample XML mapping file and some sample help pages for us to play with. Let's discuss this XML mapping, I'm still clueless... What I care about is how the generated HTML files in different

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2

2003-08-18 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-08-19 um 02.31 schrieb Sven Neumann: I think I explained the reasoning in my last mail. Oh well, let me do it again then... This does *not* make sense. The helpbrowser will have to choose the language based on the users locale, it thus needs to know how the files are organized

Re: [Gimp-developer] style guide gimp-help-2

2003-08-19 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-08-19 um 12.19 schrieb Branko Collin: What it comes down to, I guess, is that Daniel and Mel had a clear vision of the style of the new user documentation, but I somehow missed an explanation of that vision. We started the project by sketching that vision in some files in the

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2

2003-08-19 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-08-19 um 11.52 schrieb Sven Neumann: The current helpbrowser does it that way. But, no, it isn't necessary and that's why I wanted to see it discussed. Since Daniel obviously refuses to do that, Do not lay words in my mouth! I won't be able to do work on the implementation.

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2

2003-08-19 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-08-19 um 09.48 schrieb Raphaël Quinet: following message in the corresponding language: This page has not been translated yet to your language. The English version is included below. If you want to help other GIMP users, please consider submitting a translated version of this

Re: [Gimp-developer] style guide gimp-help-2

2003-08-19 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-08-19 um 14.25 schrieb Branko Collin: Thank you for your elaborate answer. I do have some follow-up questions though. No problem, whatever you want to know. :) Assume for a second that I know nothing about 'modern manuals'. What is it about them that you like. What did Mel

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-08-19 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-08-19 um 16.48 schrieb Sven Neumann: Well, of course you can. That's the whole point of UTF-8 encoding. It provides a single encoding suitable for all languages so that they can coexist in the same file. All XML-1.0 compatible tools must handle UTF-8 correctly and there is thus

Re: [Gimp-developer] style guide gimp-help-2

2003-08-19 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-08-19 um 15.08 schrieb Raphaël Quinet: Now I am confused. I thought that we were talking about the online help system, not about the manual (GUM). It looks like you consider both of them to be the same thing. Is that right? The old gimp-help was build upon the content of the

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2

2003-08-19 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Mit, 2003-08-20 um 00.47 schrieb Michael Natterer: Is this a solution everybody can live with or did I miss something obvious? If it sounds reasonable, we should go ahead, it's not even an awful lot of work (the coding part, not writing the help pages :) Clean, (relatively) simple, I like

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-08-19 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Mit, 2003-08-20 um 01.31 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Transcoding is a no-brainer, if that is a problem a simple one-liner can convert to whatever you want. I'm talking about the XSLT processors; sure a small perl/python/bash script will recode all generated HTML files in a directory, but as

Re: [Gimp-developer] style guide gimp-help-2

2003-08-19 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Mit, 2003-08-20 um 01.41 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: References are extremely important, more important than tutorials in prose, IMnsHO. This doesn't clash with my idea. Especially good cross references are important but this is exactly one of DocBooks' strengths. Now, maybe this can be

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2

2003-08-30 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Mit, 2003-08-27 um 11.33 schrieb Sven Neumann: Any help page could then refer to the freetype plug-in by using link xmlns:ft=http://freetype.gimp.org/help; ft:href=top / As you can see, the namespace prefix is irrelevant, we can choose ft: here to keep the notation short. Of course if

Re: [Gimp-developer] WikiWordOfTheDay

2003-09-08 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Mon, 2003-09-08 um 11.52 schrieb David Neary: Problem: Writing docs takes ages, and there are not enough people to do it all, and docs often need little retouching at the end that has to be communicated to the original author, and takes time to integrate, and so on. Indeed. Solution:

Re: Apple has no Delete Key [Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp interface streamlining]

2003-09-13 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Sam, 2003-09-13 um 23.30 schrieb Marco Wessel: It is true that the Apple keyboards that used to come with the iMacs, B/W G3s and G4s don't have a del key. However, this keyboard has long since been replaced with the full-sized keyboard, which does have the key. Just curious, where is it on

Re: Apple has no Delete Key [Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp interface streamlining]

2003-09-13 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Sam, 2003-09-13 um 22.38 schrieb Alan Horkan: Delete is such a particularly good and obvious keybinding for Deleting things Actually I believe that having both a backspace and a delete key is confusing in the original wordprocessing meaning; why would one want to delete a character

Re: [Gimp-developer] PO files

2003-09-16 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-09-16 um 19.10 schrieb David Neary: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this the official new list for the GTP? If so README.i18n should be changed. -- Servus, Daniel signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil

Re: [Gimp-developer] PO files

2003-09-17 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Mit, 2003-09-17 um 13.29 schrieb Sven Neumann: Is this the official new list for the GTP? If so README.i18n should be changed. I might have missed something but what exactly do you think needs to be changed in README.i18n? I read in the thread that the GTP contact address is dead, if

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2 status and suggestions

2003-11-16 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Son, den 16.11.2003 schrieb Roman Joost um 00:46: This is the actual structure. I made a find ./ -type d in the gimp-help-2 and removed the CVS directorys: Agreed. Howver since a few persons are not too happy with the all-languages-concurrently approach I'd like to hear their opinion first.

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2 status and suggestions

2003-11-23 Thread Daniel Egger
On Nov 22, 2003, at 3:11 pm, Roman Joost wrote: I moved the stylesheets directory into the source root. I will change it in the next days, after Daniel will give me the ok. No one has declined the new structure purposal, so i think, that everyone on gimp-help-2 gave this implicit OK to change it?

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2 status and suggestions

2003-11-24 Thread Daniel Egger
On Nov 24, 2003, at 12:02 am, Roman Joost wrote: I tried it with some docs and it rocks. Unfortunately, i'm running into trouble with the german umlauts. Do you've a solution for keeping the umlauts ? We'll switch to UTF-8 which should solve this problem, unless I'm misunderstanding the issue, of

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2 status

2003-12-11 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Mit, den 10.12.2003 schrieb Roman Joost um 22:55: With Raymonds help i'm now be able to build the help with UTF-8 encoded XML files, which are xincluded in the gimp.xml file. Cool. Incidently I've also been working on this and my Mac really has troubles when trying to compile such files

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