Re: [MBZ] Bouncing speedometer needle

2008-07-02 Thread Hendrik Fay
 From memory the use of lubricants other than graphite powder is a no 
no, if you want to use a liquid perhaps ATF is the best.
However I have never been able to figure out how a cable can produce a 
bouncing effect.

Hendrik
with lots of bouncing needles

Craig McCluskey wrote:
 Our '82 240D/3.0 periodically has a bouncing speedometer needle. I've
 thought of pulling the instrument cluster and then pulling the center of
 the speedometer cable out and dousing it with Zoom-Spout Turbine Oil
 while I was re-inserting it.

 Is this an appropriate treatment? I have some white lithium grease around
 here (if I can ever find it!), too.


 Craig
   

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Re: [MBZ] Bouncing speedometer needle

2008-07-02 Thread Jim Cathey
 Is this an appropriate treatment? I have some white lithium grease 
 around
 here (if I can ever find it!), too.

I've used Mobil 1 5W20.  McParts sells a cable lube, but I
was out (and thought I wasn't) once and used the lightest
oil I had in a pinch.  I figured a synthetic would not
get sticky, and it did work and seemed to work well.  It
certainly reduced the bouncing.  What I remember of the
official lube was that it was a light oil.

The cable core won't pull out, but you can feed it oil from
the top end and it'll work its way in.

 However I have never been able to figure out how a cable can produce a
 bouncing effect.

The cable core is wound like a spring, and once it starts getting a
bit sticky (especially at the top) it'll wind up a bit and then jerk
loose, ad infinitum.  (Or at least until it breaks.)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 124 climate control head unit diagnosis

2008-07-02 Thread Jim Cathey
 There's a 40-pin
 processor in there, I don't know which one.  But the
 diagnostic output on X2-1 will do a blink code at
 you if you hook a voltmeter (logic probe) to it.

According to my notes it's a Motorola chip which, given
the era, probably makes it a 68705 (or possibly 68HC11)
family member.

 Hmph.  I don't have the FSM handy, but I could've sworn it was only
 the '90s 124s that had the diagnostic capability.  Wasn't it one of
 the Dons who freaked out when the recirc light in his 2.5 started
 blinking at him?

As you said, at some point along the line somebody had the
bright idea to hook the blink code output to the recirculation
light so you didn't have to take the console apart in order to
see what its own diagnostics thought, but the output existed
before they thought to do that.  (I think at some point they
ran it to a diagnostic connector somewhere, but not always.)

I know it works, because they've blinked at me on the bench.
(No sensors hooked up, they're a little cranky about that.)
I don't have a secret decoder ring, though.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Rack and Pinion Issues

2008-07-02 Thread Robert Rentfro
I'm going to call Bud today. Probably should figure it out before I start
for Illinois next week.

Bob R

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Robert Rentfro wrote:
 Oh yasorry.
 It just said that there were rack and pinion issues with some '05 E320s
and
 to check with the dealer. Dealer basically told me to take a hike.

You talked with Bud?  Maybe he knows about it and can give you a recall 
number or something...

You might want to check out this thread and maybe PM konigstiger.  He 
seems to be someone on the inside.

http://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?s=4080d06d3c85818acbf7809b77894d9b;
t=145960

John


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Re: [MBZ] Wife's Bud's '85 380SL For Sale...Still

2008-07-02 Thread Curt Raymond
Knock isn't the problem anyway is it? Don't you run premium to prevent 
preignition (ping)?
I was talking to a guy last week who drove some kind of tweaked out BMW that 
required premium. He was telling me that once he'd put in mid by mistake and 
got exactly 1 mile down the road before it started pinging like crazy at 
greater than 2000 rpm. He slowly limped it to an autoparts store and fed it a 
couple bottles of octane boost. He bought more bottles and took off. He said it 
took like 4 bottles of whatever kind of booster he'd bought until the thing 
started acting normalish but it wasn't completely right until he ran a couple 
tanks of premium through.

-Curt

Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 21:26:53 -0700
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wife's Bud's '85 380SL For Sale...Still
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 The 380 was anemic - you need the 560.

Mine's not all that bad.  But it's no 560, either.

Our 560's all claim to need premium, but I've never tried
regular.  I know for a fact that our 250C absolutely requires
premium.  When I got it I didn't know, but it pinged like
a SOB, even on mid-grade.

 The knock sensors in the 80's were not as sophisticated as
 they are now.

Perhaps not.  But the 560 SL doesn't have any knock sensor.

-- Jim


  
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Re: [MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD

2008-07-02 Thread Curt Raymond
Make sure theres no paper in there, or anything else that could make some 
annoying little noise! ;)

Seriously, if its a thing in there, do you have maple trees? We had a lot of 
the little helocopters this year, they get into everything...

-Curt

--- On Tue, 7/1/08, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Subject: RE: [MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 7:09 PM

Good advice.  Anything else to check while he is in there?
BillR

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Either way it wouldn't be a bad time to have the bearing lubed.
Shouldn't be
a big job for a competant indy...

--- On Tue, 7/1/08, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Subject: RE: [MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Mercedes Discussion List'
mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 5:34 PM

From the sound I'll hold out for paper [or something else] for a bit
longer.
I started out thinking bearing, but the sound just isn't right for that [I
don't think].
BillR

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD

I'd think it more likely the fan is in trouble, or rather a bearing in the
fan is in trouble. My 190D had exactly the same sort of thing. I took the
cover off the fan (which also requires removing the windshield wiper and
some other covers) and dripped some ATF onto the shafts (theres a fan on
each end of the motor) and ran it for awhile. Then dripped in more ATF. Its
been nearly 2 years like that now with no reoccurance.

-Curt

Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 16:41:42 -0400
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Subject: [MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD
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A couple of months ago the 'always on' blower started chirping  -
sounds
like a piece of paper got in there.  It stopped for a few weeks, with just
occasional chirps, but has now returned pretty much full time.  It sometimes
stops on turns, but the controllable fan doesn't affect it [a tiny bit
sometimes].  Is this something a rank amateur can get into to get out
whatever the fan is hitting?  Any way to snake a wire claw into the vents to
get at it that way?

Thanks - BillR


  
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Re: [MBZ] OT Catheyesque repair of the day

2008-07-02 Thread Curt Raymond
Ooo ooo I've got one too.
The mowing deck on my old Cub Cadet is timed, that is the sweeps of the blades 
overlap so they have to be timed to no do that.
One of the pulleys is worn and the hole is slightly egg shaped so the shaft can 
wobble slightly in it. The key also wobbles just slightly in the keyway. Its 
only maybe 1/32 but its enough to make the blade tips touch.
I took some JB Weld and glued the key into the keyway and made the hole a bit 
smalller. It took some fitting with a file and some sandpaper but now 
everything fits tightly again. I was concerned about strength but I mowed the 
lawn and everything was fine.

Its not ShoeGoo but not bad...

-Curt

Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 18:47:12 -0700
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Subject: [MBZ] OT Catheyesque repair of the day
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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No Mercedes content here as it involves my radio-controlled boat.  My 
driveshaft coupler set screw hole had worn-out threads which caused it to 
keep backing out of the hole losing contact with the shaft.  Luckily, I 
noticed it during normal servicing/lubrication, not on the lake!  I decided 
to purchase a replacement and be done with it.  The replacement was larger 
than the original, no go!  So, I asked myself, What would Jim Cathey do? 
I wanted to have the boat ready for the water, and ordering the proper 
replacement along with the wait time was going to take a while.  I 
discovered that the incorrect replacement had set screw holes in both sides, 
and the old one didn't!  a couple seconds later, thanks to a 1/8 drill bit, 
I had the old one ready to put back in service!  The new hole accepted the 
set screw and it threaded in tightly!  It stayed in during a 5 minute test 
run around the pool!

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300sD 267Kmi, Ursula 


  
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Re: [MBZ] 9/11 inside job? [was: GWB]

2008-07-02 Thread LarryT
Gary wrote we will always have guns  :)   

You're right about that! ;-)
Let's hope tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum don't try to come up with a way to 
take them away from us -

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 larry, as much as we might disagree about the president, we will always 
 have
 guns  :)

 On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:26 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 and the govt refused to allow pilots a $500 handgun.

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   Thanks Royce.
 
  As one mother of a trader killed in the North Tower said my son died
  because American Airlines thought a $1500 armored door was too
  expensive.
 
  Peter
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Bouncing speedometer needle

2008-07-02 Thread LarryT
I've been warned against putting a liquid such as oil or the other stuff you 
mention - was told the fluid can be forced into the speedo head and fluid 
will be splashed inside the speedo -

I believe the bouncing is thought to be caused by a sticking speedo cable - 
if turns smoothly then sticks causing the speedo needle to slow then release 
suddenly.

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- Original Message - 
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Subject: [MBZ] Bouncing speedometer needle


 Our '82 240D/3.0 periodically has a bouncing speedometer needle. I've
 thought of pulling the instrument cluster and then pulling the center of
 the speedometer cable out and dousing it with Zoom-Spout Turbine Oil
 while I was re-inserting it.

 Is this an appropriate treatment? I have some white lithium grease around
 here (if I can ever find it!), too.


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Bouncing speedometer needle

2008-07-02 Thread Jim Cathey
 I've been warned against putting a liquid such as oil or the other 
 stuff you
 mention - was told the fluid can be forced into the speedo head and 
 fluid
 will be splashed inside the speedo -

That's pretty much impossible, which you can see if you've taken
one of these apart.  You certainly don't want to overdo it, of
course.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 87 300D antenna grommet

2008-07-02 Thread LarryT
I changed the 2 part grommet on my 91 a few days ago - the low piece goes 
onto the antenna after it is removed from the fender, then the antenna is 
inserted and the upper piece of grmmet can be installed.  I used silicon and 
everything slid on easily - getting the grommet to snap into place went 
pretty easy.  The upper piece is pushed down onto the lower piece until the 
2 snap together.

Good luck -

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- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300D antenna grommet


 Same is true on a 123-my 124 looks the same but have not taken it apart.
 Dwight

 Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles.
 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD).
 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles.
 Wickford, RI-Original Message-
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 Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 8:45 PM
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300D antenna grommet

 Does one hafta RR the antenna and the extension mechanism to RR the
 antenna fender grommet on an '87 300D?

 No direct experience, but in everything else (126, 107, 201)
 you have to pull the antenna mechanism down into the trunk
 to change the grommet.

 -- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT Catheyesque repair of the day

2008-07-02 Thread Jim Cathey
 I took some JB Weld and glued the key into the keyway and made the 
 hole a bit smalller. It took some fitting with a file and some 
 sandpaper but now everything fits tightly again. I was concerned about 
 strength but I mowed the lawn and everything was fine.  It's not 
 ShoeGoo but not bad...

JB Weld was my favorite glue, and still is the glue of choice
for many applications, but I find that more of what I tackle
that's broken is amenable to Shoe Goo instead.  It comes down
to 'grip' and flexibility.  Shoe Goo wins for those, but it's
nowhere near as strong as JB Weld, either.

Of course, molten metal (weld weld) is my favorite 'glue'!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 87 MBZ 300 D Turbo Excessive Negative Camber

2008-07-02 Thread LarryT
Great explanation Peter, -
Do you know if the '91 300D is the same?  My 91 300D sits a little lower on 
one side,  perhaps 1/2 or  so - when the weather cools a little I'll check 
things out --

Thx -

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 Have you looked at the subframe bushings?  There are four, two front
 and two rear.  There should be a half and inch or more space between
 subframe and body -- if not, likely the mounts are bad.  I'm going to
 use the ones I intended for the old car for the new one this fall
 when I get the cash to do all the links.

 Bad mounts may allow the subframe to rotate along the axle
 centerline, making it look like there is too much camber.

 It the mounts are good, all that's left is sagging springs.

 Peter


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Re: [MBZ] Bouncing speedometer needle

2008-07-02 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 06:30:10 -0700 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  I've been warned against putting a liquid such as oil or the other 
  stuff you
  mention - was told the fluid can be forced into the speedo head and 
  fluid
  will be splashed inside the speedo -
 
 That's pretty much impossible, which you can see if you've taken
 one of these apart.  You certainly don't want to overdo it, of
 course.

So maybe, following Hendrik's suggestion, some Mobil 1 ATF? (I do have
some of that.)


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 92 300TE

2008-07-02 Thread Luther
I've got a car you can buy for $500

Luther

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 you should be honored for me to buy your car for $500

 David Hemsley wrote:
   
 Thanks but NO Thanks:)
  
  
 
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 to get Kaleb to give you his standard $500 for it.  Wilton 
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Re: [MBZ] OT cummins questions

2008-07-02 Thread Luther
There's a Banned response in here somewhere

Luther

Jim Cathey wrote:
 well crap, i thought the manny tranny behind the dodge was good, but 
 the
 auto was crap, are you saying they are both crap?
 

 Their trannies are/were their weak point, at least until
 fairly recently.  Something about the pounding they take
 behind the Cummins!

 -- Jim
   

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Re: [MBZ] Bouncing speedometer needle

2008-07-02 Thread Jim Cathey
 So maybe, following Hendrik's suggestion, some Mobil 1 ATF? (I do have
 some of that.)

Maybe.  I seem to recall that ATF is about 20-weight, and
I've used it before, but I picked up a quart of M1 5W20 to
use on light oiling jobs.  All I remember is that the tube
of cable lube I used before seemed pretty thin, like it was
half kerosene.

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Re: [MBZ] GWB

2008-07-02 Thread Luther
Sometime on 9-11-2001, Pres Bush was 70 miles from me and some 20 floors 
under ground/concrete at Offutt Air Force Base near Omaha, NE.  This 
caused several friends to panic and think we'd be under attack very 
soon.  It's a shame they didn't get him too

Luther

Gary Hurst wrote:
 that nation is under attack.  no effort is made to either protect the
 president nor to stop the attackers.  the lack of reaction is beyond
 belief.  my government cannot respond to attack in only a mere hour or so??

 say it is a fix that isn't going as smoothly as planned and weigh bush's
 confusion in that light.  now he makes sense.
   


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Re: [MBZ] US Foreign Aid

2008-07-02 Thread LarryT
Agree completely - we send way too much of our tax dollars to questionable 
locations to be used for questionable projects - and usually most of the 
money ends up in the pockets of evil people.

With the exception of Israel, we could stop sending those billionS you 
mention and little would happen.

I'd like to know what all those billions spent have accomplished?
They certainly don't buy good will.

Of course, IMNSHO, all that animosity is caused by jealousy.

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- Original Message - 
From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GWB


 Mac wrote: How can a nation turn on a president because he got a hummer 
 in a closet... then RE-ELECT another pres who has dragged them into a 
 needless and ugly war? No one outside the U.S. understands this 
 disconnect. I am not trying to be rude, but you need to know this is the 
 way it is.

 I don't agree that the war in Iraq was needless.  I do agree that it is 
 ugly. ALL war is ugly.  ALL war is awful.  ALL loss of life in a war is a 
 catastrophic loss to the world.

 I don't have the guts to tell the people of Iraq, that the MILLIONS of 
 people of that Saddam slaughtered didn't mean anything.  I don't have the 
 stomach to say that the loss of 4,000 american lives was too high a cost 
 to save Millions of Iraqis from the worst dictator since Stalin and Pol 
 Pot.


 Saddam was hung by his own people, for crimes he committed against the 
 Iraqis.  I am proud that American soldiers put their lives in danger and 
 gave the ultimate sacrifice to help Iraq try to choose their own course. 
 I am VERY proud that the people of Iraq got to vote for their leaders for 
 the first time in decades.

 I am not trying to be rude, either. However I don't know what country you 
 are from, but I will say this.  All of these commentators from other 
 countries who say that America is the now one of the most hated countries 
 in the world, and all of the protestors in other countries chanting death 
 to America ought to stop and think about what would happen if the US 
 complied with their wishes for complete self determination.

 What would happen if the US stopped the BILLIONS of dollars in foreign 
 aid, what would happen if the US decided it would stop forgiving interest 
 payments on outstanding loans.  What would happen if the US told these 
 countries that beg for help from the US, that we are tired of being 
 vilified in your press and then also asked for help.

 These countries that scream insults about the US and chant death to 
 America are like a teenager who screams I hate you, Dad! Why don't you 
 just leave me alone.  Then the child goes up to their room which is 
 provided by dad and plays their Ipod paid for by dad and then drives the 
 car bought by dad and just wants to be left alone.

 The USA will never do this, but I sure wish we would agree to their 
 demands and just leave these other countries alone and leave them to their 
 devices.  You don't want our help, okay.

 Donald H. Snook




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Re: [MBZ] US Foreign Aid

2008-07-02 Thread John Robbins
LarryT wrote:
 Of course, IMNSHO, all that animosity is caused by jealousy.

So all the meddling we've done in the middle east doesn't bother them a bit?

John


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Re: [MBZ] GWB

2008-07-02 Thread LarryT
I thought ya'll said he was talking to children somewhere?  You found fault 
that he was talking to kids and not under protection - now you say he was 20 
floors under ground - was that where the school kids were?

Which are you hating him for - being protected or not being protected?

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- Original Message - 
From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GWB


 Sometime on 9-11-2001, Pres Bush was 70 miles from me and some 20 floors
 under ground/concrete at Offutt Air Force Base near Omaha, NE.  This
 caused several friends to panic and think we'd be under attack very
 soon.  It's a shame they didn't get him too

 Luther

 Gary Hurst wrote:
 that nation is under attack.  no effort is made to either protect the
 president nor to stop the attackers.  the lack of reaction is beyond
 belief.  my government cannot respond to attack in only a mere hour or 
 so??

 say it is a fix that isn't going as smoothly as planned and weigh bush's
 confusion in that light.  now he makes sense.



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Re: [MBZ] GWB, etc.

2008-07-02 Thread LarryT
you wrote (and keep claiming) we are Rather than clubbing them and 
stealing their oil?

When have we ever stole their oil?  before 73 we got it pretty cheap - but 
we did all the work, exploration, construction, etc - and we still paid them 
for the oil - it wasn;t $140/barrel but we never got it for free - which 
stealing would indicate.

Even the money produced by the oil while we are in Iran is going back into 
the iranian general fund.

I get the feeling you;ve been told things but never given it much thought -

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- Original Message - 
From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GWB, etc.


7. If nothing is done with Social Security, it will be Bankrupt by 2015.
This is pork, what has GW done on this? NOTHING but crow about how the 
Democrats can't fix it.

9. THE largest increase in government spending ever. The Era of big 
government just got its Messiah.
If this is true isn't #7 fixed by it? I don't think its true though, if you 
add the Iraq war funding GW's era has to have the single biggest spending 
increase ever not sanctioned by an act of war.

11. Crazy liberal whackjobs like George Soros will become members of 
cabinet.
As opposed to crazy conservative and religious whackjobs?

12.
Relations with Isreal will plummet to new lows as BHO recognizes and
meets with every political group in the middle east bent on Isreal's
destruction.
Rather than clubbing them and stealing their oil?

13. Iran will build its nuclear weapon and as pissed
off as Isreal will be, the dialogue between the two will become
increasingly bitter.
So we'd be better off with GW's secret plans to bomb Iran or pay Israel to 
do it? Or should we just keep funding terrorist groups who just happen to 
operate in Iran? GW does that too, and maintains that there doesn't need to 
be any oversight of his clandestine operations. Obviously he's such a great 
guy he'd never do anything wrong.

-Curt




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Re: [MBZ] OT Catheyesque repair of the day

2008-07-02 Thread Curt Raymond
Yeah this thing really needed welding but it would have been very hard to grind 
the keyway back out...
What it really needs is a new shaft and pulley. I've now fixed both of them. 
Its a 44 year old mowing deck, you just can't find quality...

Back to welding on the 190D today. I got the driver's side jack point all cut 
out and cleaned up and the first piece of metal cut to fit. I'm getting faster 
at the prep work. It'd be nice to see my welding improve...

-Curt

--- On Wed, 7/2/08, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Catheyesque repair of the day
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 9:32 AM

 I took some JB Weld and glued the key into the keyway and made the 
 hole a bit smalller. It took some fitting with a file and some 
 sandpaper but now everything fits tightly again. I was concerned about 
 strength but I mowed the lawn and everything was fine.  It's not 
 ShoeGoo but not bad...

JB Weld was my favorite glue, and still is the glue of choice
for many applications, but I find that more of what I tackle
that's broken is amenable to Shoe Goo instead.  It comes down
to 'grip' and flexibility.  Shoe Goo wins for those, but it's
nowhere near as strong as JB Weld, either.

Of course, molten metal (weld weld) is my favorite 'glue'!

-- Jim


  
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Re: [MBZ] US Foreign Aid

2008-07-02 Thread Jeff Zedic
 Of course, IMNSHO, all that animosity is caused by jealousy.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,

That is my all-time favourite US linethanks for the laugh.

You'd do better to think more along the lines of foreign policy, NOT jealousy!


Zedic

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Re: [MBZ] US Foreign Aid

2008-07-02 Thread Tom Hargrave
Actually, we meddle everywhere.

I guess we should cut off all foreign aid  just let people starve?

Or maybe we should have not offered foreign aide in the first place and let
millions of people starve every year?

Sure, shipments get hijacked and food gets misappropriated but enough gets
through to make a huge difference.

Thanks,
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] US Foreign Aid

LarryT wrote:
 Of course, IMNSHO, all that animosity is caused by jealousy.

So all the meddling we've done in the middle east doesn't bother them a bit?

John


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Re: [MBZ] US Foreign Aid

2008-07-02 Thread John Robbins
Tom Hargrave wrote:
 I guess we should cut off all foreign aid  just let people starve?

I wasn't talking about foreign aid...  more of out trying to influence 
and control the politics of the region.

John


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Re: [MBZ] US Foreign Aid

2008-07-02 Thread Rolf
Israel should stop getting aid! They received 2.4 BILLION in 08 Most
of that money is then spent back with *our* arms manufacturers. So
basically your hard earned tax money is going straight into the pockets
of the military industrial complex and our country doesn't even get the
goods. What a scam. Don't they have their own money? Didn't we invade
Iraq so that we wouldn't have to rely on Israel who routinely breaks
with the Geneva convention and has time and time again committed atrocities?

-Rolf

LarryT wrote:
 Agree completely - we send way too much of our tax dollars to questionable 
 locations to be used for questionable projects - and usually most of the 
 money ends up in the pockets of evil people.

 With the exception of Israel, we could stop sending those billionS you 
 mention and little would happen.

 I'd like to know what all those billions spent have accomplished?
 They certainly don't buy good will.

 Of course, IMNSHO, all that animosity is caused by jealousy.

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 - Original Message - 
 From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 11:54 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] GWB


   
 Mac wrote: How can a nation turn on a president because he got a hummer 
 in a closet... then RE-ELECT another pres who has dragged them into a 
 needless and ugly war? No one outside the U.S. understands this 
 disconnect. I am not trying to be rude, but you need to know this is the 
 way it is.

 I don't agree that the war in Iraq was needless.  I do agree that it is 
 ugly. ALL war is ugly.  ALL war is awful.  ALL loss of life in a war is a 
 catastrophic loss to the world.

 I don't have the guts to tell the people of Iraq, that the MILLIONS of 
 people of that Saddam slaughtered didn't mean anything.  I don't have the 
 stomach to say that the loss of 4,000 american lives was too high a cost 
 to save Millions of Iraqis from the worst dictator since Stalin and Pol 
 Pot.


 Saddam was hung by his own people, for crimes he committed against the 
 Iraqis.  I am proud that American soldiers put their lives in danger and 
 gave the ultimate sacrifice to help Iraq try to choose their own course. 
 I am VERY proud that the people of Iraq got to vote for their leaders for 
 the first time in decades.

 I am not trying to be rude, either. However I don't know what country you 
 are from, but I will say this.  All of these commentators from other 
 countries who say that America is the now one of the most hated countries 
 in the world, and all of the protestors in other countries chanting death 
 to America ought to stop and think about what would happen if the US 
 complied with their wishes for complete self determination.

 What would happen if the US stopped the BILLIONS of dollars in foreign 
 aid, what would happen if the US decided it would stop forgiving interest 
 payments on outstanding loans.  What would happen if the US told these 
 countries that beg for help from the US, that we are tired of being 
 vilified in your press and then also asked for help.

 These countries that scream insults about the US and chant death to 
 America are like a teenager who screams I hate you, Dad! Why don't you 
 just leave me alone.  Then the child goes up to their room which is 
 provided by dad and plays their Ipod paid for by dad and then drives the 
 car bought by dad and just wants to be left alone.

 The USA will never do this, but I sure wish we would agree to their 
 demands and just leave these other countries alone and leave them to their 
 devices.  You don't want our help, okay.

 Donald H. Snook




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Re: [MBZ] GWB

2008-07-02 Thread Gary Hurst
no effort made at all to protect until after the attack.  then the show.

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:27 AM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I thought ya'll said he was talking to children somewhere?  You found fault
 that he was talking to kids and not under protection - now you say he was
 20
 floors under ground - was that where the school kids were?

 Which are you hating him for - being protected or not being protected?

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 - Original Message -
 From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 10:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] GWB


  Sometime on 9-11-2001, Pres Bush was 70 miles from me and some 20 floors
  under ground/concrete at Offutt Air Force Base near Omaha, NE.  This
  caused several friends to panic and think we'd be under attack very
  soon.  It's a shame they didn't get him too
 
  Luther
 
  Gary Hurst wrote:
  that nation is under attack.  no effort is made to either protect the
  president nor to stop the attackers.  the lack of reaction is beyond
  belief.  my government cannot respond to attack in only a mere hour or
  so??
 
  say it is a fix that isn't going as smoothly as planned and weigh bush's
  confusion in that light.  now he makes sense.
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 124 climate control head unit diagnosis

2008-07-02 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 5:20 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As you said, at some point along the line somebody had the
 bright idea to hook the blink code output to the recirculation
 light so you didn't have to take the console apart in order to
 see what its own diagnostics thought, but the output existed
 before they thought to do that.  (I think at some point they
 ran it to a diagnostic connector somewhere, but not always.)

 I know it works, because they've blinked at me on the bench.
 (No sensors hooked up, they're a little cranky about that.)
 I don't have a secret decoder ring, though.

Well looky what I found:
http://www.motodok.com/Documentation/Files/mb-dtc-manual-98-00.pdf

See, in particular, pages 73-74 for 201, 124, and 126 info.  (140 and
129 stuff is in there as well.)

Alex







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[MBZ] Grrr

2008-07-02 Thread Curt Raymond
About half way through the repair on the passenger side of the car and I run 
out of wire... Typical. I've got another spool but its uncoated and I don't 
have any gas.

So now I've got to:
A. Reconnect the battery (I always disconnect the battery when welding, just in 
case), get the car off the ramps and drive to the hardware store.
2. Figure out what the heck kind of wire I actually need... I've had the welder 
a year and this is my first roll...

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] 124 climate control head unit diagnosis

2008-07-02 Thread Jim Cathey
 http://www.motodok.com/Documentation/Files/mb-dtc-manual-98-00.pdf

Well, there's the codes.  Now you just need to know how to
get them without the special test tool.

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[MBZ] OT Ford Question

2008-07-02 Thread R A Bennell
I encountered trouble with my 02 F150 this weekend. It runs fine on flat ground 
but shudders when I increase the
fuel on hills. I initially wondered if it was a transmission issue as I had 
just changed out the filter and AT
fluid but I now think it is just a fuel issue. I got a service engine soon 
light on the dash but I may have done
myself a disservice by cleaning the battery posts as that has now been re-set I 
guess since it is  not coming on. I
have a scan tool but have not tried it yet. I was on my way to the lake on 
Sunday and was 100 miles from home when
this appeared out of the blue. I continued on the rest of the way - another 80 
miles or so - and then came back on
Tuesday. It acted the same - never got any worse - was just unhappy climbing 
hills. I ran the last 100 miles at
normal speeds of 65-70 mph without any real issues. It just did not like 
climbing the hills closer to the lake. If
speeds dropped to 50 mph I had some difficulty climbing back to 60 mph.

Anyone encounter this sort of thing? My brother-in-law, the mechanic suggests 
it may be an oxygen sensor but says
get the scan tool on it and see what it says. Good advice I guess. I initially 
wondered if it might be as simple as
a fuel filter plugging up.

Also wonder if it might be time to change spark plugs. It has 110K miles or so. 
Had about 92K miles when I got it.
I have yet to change plugs. No idea if PO ever did. Starts fine. Misses a 
little at idle when cold. Didn't seem to
be missing when I got home and it was hot. I sat in the truck with the motor 
running for a couple of minutes while
I gathered stuff and it was smooth enough that I looked at the tach to see if 
it was running.

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

2008-07-02 Thread R A Bennell
Yeah, I suppose so, but I better not have car trouble at night and try to get 
help at someone's home either. They
might have to protect themselves or their country if I knock on the door, right?

Unfortunately, my opinion of the abilities of average people is not very high. 
I base that on the dumb things that
I see people do in traffic as well as other silly things that I read in the 
paper etc. Unfortunately, in the USA
those folks probably qualify to have guns. Stupid people are dangerous. Stupid 
people with guns are even worse.

Randy

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R A Bennell wrote:
 Hey Larry, I hope you are never shot by a citizen who believes that he or she 
 is defending him or herself or his
or
 her country.

Around here, you're more likely to be shot by a law enforcement officer who
thinks he's protecting his own ass. I've got a suggestion to you, don't come
to USA, break into somebody house and threaten them, and they won't shoot you.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

2008-07-02 Thread R A Bennell
We had massive flooding here in 1997 and to the best of my knowledge there was 
no looting or shooting. 

Randy

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I disagree about just how close to chaos we find ourselves.   This  
thin veneer of civilization will be swept away quicker than any of us  
suspects and those armed and willing to protect will be in the best  
position to prosper.

The midwest flooding, as well as Katrina could well have been far  
worse had there not been a fully functional society able to send in  
assistance.   With rising fuel and food costs, we will be strapped to  
respond to future disasters.   And other nations will be in much the  
same limited position to respond, resulting in our great nation  
becoming a second world country for lack of infrastructure.

At this point, it will be good to have an option to protect oneself  
when police no longer are willing or able to respond.I would much  
prefer to quickly resolve violence against my family or person with  
something more stout than a garden rake.

clay




On 27 Jun 2008, at 14:33, R A Bennell wrote:

 Hey Larry, I hope you are never shot by a citizen who believes that  
 he or she is defending him or herself or his or
 her country. I suggest that the times now are a whole lot different  
 than they were when the constitution was
 written and most folks in your fine country would now be a whole  
 lot better off is they did not need to worry about
 the number of hand guns out there.

 Randy

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 The upsetting thing is this should have been a 9-0 decision.   
 Instead we
 have a politically driven decision along party lines.  If they had  
 done the
 research of looking to see what the forefathers had *intended*  
 there should
 have been no question about an individual right.

 They made no secret of what their opinions were - they wanted  
 all peole
 to have access to guns to defend themselves and their country.

 The SCOTUS no longer analyzes the Constitution and determines
 Constitutionality - they vote along party lines --

 But I guess this is nothing new - Is it?  When did they lose their
 objectivity?

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 http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

 It's a long decision (157 pages)

 The Court held (among other things) that

 1. The Second Amendment protects an individuals right to possess a  
 firearm
 unconnected to service in a militia

 2. Like most rights, the right to bear arms is not unlimited

 3.  The handgun ban and the trigger lock requirement violate the  
 second
 Amendment i.e. D.C.'s total ban on handguns in the home, violates the
 Second Amendment.

 Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

2008-07-02 Thread R A Bennell
He, like all of the others, will say whatever he thinks will get him elected. 
Little or no likelyhood of his
telling anyone what he really thinks or believes at this point in time.

Randy

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Obama stated support for the ruling today - confirmed his belief that
we have the right to individually own arms.

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i hate to enter into the obama bashing, but from what i understand he is
 very much in favor of the idea that only criminals and police should have
 guns.  i don't like voting and can't see voting the party of bush, but this
 supreme court situation might just call for me to vote for mccain.

--
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[MBZ] any gas to diesel engine swap ideas for '92 Dodge 350 van (1 ton)?

2008-07-02 Thread Christopher McCann
As you can see from my sig, I have a 1992 Dodge 250 Ram Wagon (16 passenger 
van). My wife took it to WI yesterday and was thrilled to get 12-13 mpg. Yipee.

What are my options, if any, on swapping the 5.9 liter gas engine out for a 
diesel engine?...preferably a Cummins, but ease of swap is also a consideration.

Thanks!

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Re: [MBZ] any gas to diesel engine swap ideas for '92 Dodge 350 van (1 ton)?

2008-07-02 Thread John Robbins
Christopher McCann wrote:
 What are my options, if any, on swapping the 5.9 liter gas engine out
 for a diesel engine?...preferably a Cummins, but ease of swap is also
 a consideration.

Mercedes Sprinter?

No clue about swapping in the Cummins...

John


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[MBZ] Wow

2008-07-02 Thread R A Bennell
You have been a prolific bunch over the past few days. I have been away from 
the computer since Friday and may
never get to read all of the posts since then.

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] any gas to diesel engine swap ideas for '92 Dodge 350 van (1 ton)?

2008-07-02 Thread Christopher McCann
can't afford a Sprinter. The MB 100 9 seater looks awesome, but I only see them 
on ebay.de, unfortunately.

Chris

John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher McCann wrote:
 What are my options, if any, on swapping the 5.9 liter gas engine out
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 a consideration.

Mercedes Sprinter?

No clue about swapping in the Cummins...

John


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Re: [MBZ] GWB, etc.

2008-07-02 Thread Curt Raymond
Ummm, go back the CIA meddling in Iran in the 50s. Then note how the British 
mucked about there before that. Yes the western world paid for all the 
extraction of the oil but the Iranians were paid an insultingly paltry sum for 
the material. We (the western world, the British get a good piece of the blame) 
were stealing their oil.

I'm also given to understand that some of Carter's meddling pretty much marched 
the Soviets into Afghanistan. We supported the Mujahadin (sp) which of course 
mutated into the Taliban and we can see how well that worked out for us.

Don't forget our building Saddam in Iraq...

Face it, we meddle in the Middle East and bad things happen to us. Look if I 
poke a hornet's nest the hornets come out and sting me. Why does it surprise us 
when this happens in the Middle East? Why do we keep poking that stupid hornets 
nest? Why do we think that for some crazy reason we'll do better this time? 
People have been fighting and dying over that godforsaken area for thousands of 
years.

-Curt


Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:34:43 -0400
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you wrote (and keep claiming) we are Rather than clubbing them and 
stealing their oil?

When have we ever stole their oil?  before 73 we got it pretty cheap - but 
we did all the work, exploration, construction, etc - and we still paid them 
for the oil - it wasn;t $140/barrel but we never got it for free - which 
stealing would indicate.

Even the money produced by the oil while we are in Iran is going back into 
the iranian general fund.

I get the feeling you;ve been told things but never given it much thought -

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Re: [MBZ] US Foreign Aid

2008-07-02 Thread Curt Raymond
Heres one I don't understand. How can we toe the line and accept that Taiwan is 
a Renegade Province of China but yet sell them weapons?
If we're selling weapons to Taiwan how can we give China Most Favored Nation 
trade status?
Massive paradox. Our ability to look the other way when stuff doesn't make 
sense astounds me.
Of course I know the answer to this conundrum, greed.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:44:18 -0500
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Actually, we meddle everywhere.

I guess we should cut off all foreign aid  just let people starve?

Or maybe we should have not offered foreign aide in the first place and let
millions of people starve every year?

Sure, shipments get hijacked and food gets misappropriated but enough gets
through to make a huge difference.

Thanks,
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Re: [MBZ] Wife's Bud's '85 380SL For Sale...Still

2008-07-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
no doubt there are cars that need it.  The 103 really does need it. 
116/117 does not.  I imagine the reason they said to use it was for some 
sort of emissions thing or something.

Curt Raymond wrote:
 Knock isn't the problem anyway is it? Don't you run premium to prevent 
 preignition (ping)?
 I was talking to a guy last week who drove some kind of tweaked out BMW that 
 required premium. He was telling me that once he'd put in mid by mistake and 
 got exactly 1 mile down the road before it started pinging like crazy at 
 greater than 2000 rpm. He slowly limped it to an autoparts store and fed it a 
 couple bottles of octane boost. He bought more bottles and took off. He said 
 it took like 4 bottles of whatever kind of booster he'd bought until the 
 thing started acting normalish but it wasn't completely right until he ran a 
 couple tanks of premium through.
 
 -Curt
 
 Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 21:26:53 -0700
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 The 380 was anemic - you need the 560.
 
 Mine's not all that bad.  But it's no 560, either.
 
 Our 560's all claim to need premium, but I've never tried
 regular.  I know for a fact that our 250C absolutely requires
 premium.  When I got it I didn't know, but it pinged like
 a SOB, even on mid-grade.
 
 The knock sensors in the 80's were not as sophisticated as
 they are now.
 
 Perhaps not.  But the 560 SL doesn't have any knock sensor.
 
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Re: [MBZ] US Foreign Aid

2008-07-02 Thread Curt Raymond
Another amazing paradox (see my last mail).
We give money to Israel to spend with our arms manufacturers. Then we give 
money (or gave money or continue to give money but through secondary channels) 
to the Palestinians (sp) so Israel will have some place to use those arms we 
sold them.
Sounds like a big handout to the arms makers to me, it might be cheaper to just 
give the money to the arms makers and have them give the arms to Israel for 
free.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:53:18 -0400
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Israel should stop getting aid! They received 2.4 BILLION in 08 Most
of that money is then spent back with *our* arms manufacturers. So
basically your hard earned tax money is going straight into the pockets
of the military industrial complex and our country doesn't even get the
goods. What a scam. Don't they have their own money? Didn't we invade
Iraq so that we wouldn't have to rely on Israel who routinely breaks
with the Geneva convention and has time and time again committed atrocities?

-Rolf


  
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Re: [MBZ] 92 300TE

2008-07-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
tell me about it

Luther wrote:
 I've got a car you can buy for $500
 
 Luther
 
 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 you should be honored for me to buy your car for $500

 David Hemsley wrote:
   
 Thanks but NO Thanks:)
  
  
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Question

2008-07-02 Thread Curt Raymond
Does it matter what gear its in? What if you really thump it from a standing 
start?

I'd say one of two things:

Fuel pump - in which case it should shudder (badly) when thumped hard from a 
standing start
or
Spark plugs - in which case the shudder might improve if you downshift.

I've seen both, the latter when I'd shifted to splitfire plugs...

-Curt

Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 11:18:12 -0500
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I encountered trouble with my 02 F150 this weekend. It runs fine on flat ground 
but shudders when I increase the
fuel on hills. I initially wondered if it was a transmission issue as I had 
just changed out the filter and AT
fluid but I now think it is just a fuel issue. I got a service engine soon 
light on the dash but I may have done
myself a disservice by cleaning the battery posts as that has now been re-set I 
guess since it is  not coming on. I
have a scan tool but have not tried it yet. I was on my way to the lake on 
Sunday and was 100 miles from home when
this appeared out of the blue. I continued on the rest of the way - another 80 
miles or so - and then came back on
Tuesday. It acted the same - never got any worse - was just unhappy climbing 
hills. I ran the last 100 miles at
normal speeds of 65-70 mph without any real issues. It just did not like 
climbing the hills closer to the lake. If
speeds dropped to 50 mph I had some difficulty climbing back to 60 mph.

Anyone encounter this sort of thing? My brother-in-law, the mechanic suggests 
it may be an oxygen sensor but says
get the scan tool on it and see what it says. Good advice I guess. I initially 
wondered if it might be as simple as
a fuel filter plugging up.

Also wonder if it might be time to change spark plugs. It has 110K miles or so. 
Had about 92K miles when I got it.
I have yet to change plugs. No idea if PO ever did. Starts fine. Misses a 
little at idle when cold. Didn't seem to
be missing when I got home and it was hot. I sat in the truck with the motor 
running for a couple of minutes while
I gathered stuff and it was smooth enough that I looked at the tach to see if 
it was running.

Randy




  
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Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

2008-07-02 Thread Curt Raymond
Do you think the shooting in NO was legally owned guns?

-Curt

Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 11:42:40 -0500
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We had massive flooding here in 1997 and to the best of my knowledge there was 
no looting or shooting. 

Randy


  
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[MBZ] OT I think I hate vista

2008-07-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
As you all remember I got this new computer with Vista on it.  Well, it 
always does these crazy things, like reading a pdf half the time it wont 
display it, and/or I get error messages all the time.  Just things like 
that.  Not to mention, half the crap I need to run will not run under 
vista.  I was able to finally get the EPC to run under vista, but the 
WIS will not run.  So I have to install it on a XP computer.  Thinking 
about either custom building me another computer and installing XP, 
upgrading my old computer and ininstall everything, or just get a bigger 
hard drive, then put it in the old computer and ininstall.  Or, may just 
wipe the 80 gig drive that was in the old computer and reinstall, then 
let the wife have this new computer.  Anyway, my vent for the day
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Re: [MBZ] 124 climate control head unit diagnosis

2008-07-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
thats great to have

Alex Chamberlain wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 5:20 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As you said, at some point along the line somebody had the
 bright idea to hook the blink code output to the recirculation
 light so you didn't have to take the console apart in order to
 see what its own diagnostics thought, but the output existed
 before they thought to do that.  (I think at some point they
 ran it to a diagnostic connector somewhere, but not always.)

 I know it works, because they've blinked at me on the bench.
 (No sensors hooked up, they're a little cranky about that.)
 I don't have a secret decoder ring, though.
 
 Well looky what I found:
 http://www.motodok.com/Documentation/Files/mb-dtc-manual-98-00.pdf
 
 See, in particular, pages 73-74 for 201, 124, and 126 info.  (140 and
 129 stuff is in there as well.)
 
 Alex
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 124 climate control head unit diagnosis

2008-07-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have the special test tool.

Jim Cathey wrote:
 http://www.motodok.com/Documentation/Files/mb-dtc-manual-98-00.pdf
 
 Well, there's the codes.  Now you just need to know how to
 get them without the special test tool.
 
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Re: [MBZ] any gas to diesel engine swap ideas for '92 Dodge 350 van (1 ton)?

2008-07-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
with enough money, anything is possible

Christopher McCann wrote:
 As you can see from my sig, I have a 1992 Dodge 250 Ram Wagon (16 passenger 
 van). My wife took it to WI yesterday and was thrilled to get 12-13 mpg. 
 Yipee.
 
 What are my options, if any, on swapping the 5.9 liter gas engine out for a 
 diesel engine?...preferably a Cummins, but ease of swap is also a 
 consideration.
 
 Thanks!
 
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Re: [MBZ] 124 climate control head unit diagnosis

2008-07-02 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have the special test tool.


What's it like?  How's it work?

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] 124 climate control head unit diagnosis

2008-07-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
They sell them on ebay, you can make one pretty easy.

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 On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 What's it like?  How's it work?
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

2008-07-02 Thread Mitch Haley
R A Bennell wrote:
 Yeah, I suppose so, but I better not have car trouble at night and try to get 
 help at someone's home either. They
 might have to protect themselves or their country if I knock on the door, 
 right?

You come up with the most wild fantasies and present them as logic...
Your mounties seem just as likely to shoot somebody for no good reason as our 
cops are, yet I haven't seen you advocating for mountie disarmament, or pissing
your pants because there are armed mounties running around.

Standard USA statistics: When a peon shoots somebody with defensive intent, 98% 
of the time they needed shooting, according to the police. When the police 
shoot 
somebody, 89% of the time they needed shooting, again according to the police, 
who in cases of police shootings have an extreme pro-shooter bias.

Example: a military policeman (out of uniform) is a passenger in a motorcar.
San Diego cop stops the car and holds the occupants at gunpoint. He yells
get up at the MP, who is on the ground. MP begins to rise, so the cop shoots
him dead. This murder was ruled justifiable, when I believe it should have
been added to the 11% in which the cops had no business playing with dangerous
weapons in public.

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Re: [MBZ] any gas to diesel engine swap ideas for '92 Dodge 350 van (1 ton)?

2008-07-02 Thread Mitch Haley
Christopher McCann wrote:
 As you can see from my sig, I have a 1992 Dodge 250 Ram Wagon 
 What are my options, if any, on swapping the 5.9 liter gas engine out for a 
 diesel engine?

I don't think it would be that hard to stuff a 4BT in there, but you'd need to 
do some measuring first. You'd probably have to extend the engine compartment 
to 
stuff a 6BT from a Ram pickup in it. There's got to be a good reason why Ford 
sold diesel vans and Dodge didn't, and I think it's the length of the Cummins 
inline 6. I bet there are lots of fun things like steering parts and a firewall 
located right where the rear of the cummins 6BT would need to go.

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Re: [MBZ] any gas to diesel engine swap ideas for '92 Dodge 350 van (1 ton)?

2008-07-02 Thread Kevin
The length of the cummins will no doubt make the swap incredibly difficult.
Even the height might be a problem. To make matters worse, a LA or magnum
chrysler v8 is fairly narrow, so v8 diesel swaps might not be an option.

If you're not adept at fabricating, I'd leave the 360.

On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 09:41:47AM -0700, Christopher McCann wrote:
 As you can see from my sig, I have a 1992 Dodge 250 Ram Wagon (16 passenger 
 van). My wife took it to WI yesterday and was thrilled to get 12-13 mpg. 
 Yipee.
 
 What are my options, if any, on swapping the 5.9 liter gas engine out for a 
 diesel engine?...preferably a Cummins, but ease of swap is also a 
 consideration.

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[MBZ] Smokin hot deal on '85 500SEL

2008-07-02 Thread John Robbins
http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=224560

Good thing it isn't closer...


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Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

2008-07-02 Thread Mitch Haley
R A Bennell wrote:
 He, like all of the others, will say whatever he thinks will get him elected.

Like all the others--- Yep. The problem with politics is that we keep 
electing 
politicians. The people with the greatest hunger for power are those least 
trustworthy to wield it. And I don't know of any solution to that, other than 
limiting the power of government and expanding the freedom of the people.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

2008-07-02 Thread Mitch Haley
R A Bennell wrote:
 We had massive flooding here in 1997 and to the best of my knowledge there 
 was no looting or shooting. 

Well, that could change if you had our government there to throw you out of 
your 
homes and take your keys for safekeeping.

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Re: [MBZ] Smokin hot deal on '85 500SEL

2008-07-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
He will be lucky to get 1k for it right now.

John Robbins wrote:
 http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=224560
 
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Re: [MBZ] Smokin hot deal on '85 500SEL

2008-07-02 Thread John Robbins
Cost of fuel?

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 He will be lucky to get 1k for it right now.
 
 John Robbins wrote:
 http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=224560

 Good thing it isn't closer...


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Re: [MBZ] Smokin hot deal on '85 500SEL

2008-07-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yep

John Robbins wrote:
 Cost of fuel?
 
 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 He will be lucky to get 1k for it right now.

 John Robbins wrote:
 http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=224560

 Good thing it isn't closer...


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Re: [MBZ] US Foreign Aid

2008-07-02 Thread Bill R
OK, back on my soapbox.  It was awhile ago, but back when I did study such
things the US got back @$2 for every $1 we 'gave away.'  Foreign aid has
always been tied to our business and strategic interest more than to
humanitarian need [Egypt, for example, vs. Chad].  Much 'foreign aid' works
like this [case study from the late 1970's - old, I know, but the basics are
still the same].  We 'give' a country an $800k [back then] dialysis machine.
Great for them, right?  Well, the $800k gift actually goes to one of our
medical suppliers, who ship it [freight due] on one of our carriers along
with our technicians [billed to them, along with upkeep and supplies].  The
net effect for the country we 'gave' it to is an increase in costs, and
those who used to have to fly to the US or Europe to have dialysis can now
get it done at home. Good for our manufacturer, though.  The unspoken part
of this is that for many poor countries most of the populace will almost
never in their lives see a physician, and what is really needed in the
country is some training in basic sanitation [which is what raised our life
expectancy.] We used to say that for every doctor we could get into a third
world situation we were killing some number of hundreds of people, mostly
because of the costs to support the relatively few who would benefit vs. the
much larger number who could benefit from some basic understanding of
hygiene and nutrition.  It only takes a brief glance at the poorest of the
poor nations to see that our 'giving' more often is tied to political
situations [by both parties] than to need.
Enough already.
BillR 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 10:22 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] US Foreign Aid

Agree completely - we send way too much of our tax dollars to questionable 
locations to be used for questionable projects - and usually most of the 
money ends up in the pockets of evil people.

With the exception of Israel, we could stop sending those billionS you 
mention and little would happen.

I'd like to know what all those billions spent have accomplished?
They certainly don't buy good will.

Of course, IMNSHO, all that animosity is caused by jealousy.

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- Original Message - 
From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GWB


 Mac wrote: How can a nation turn on a president because he got a hummer 
 in a closet... then RE-ELECT another pres who has dragged them into a 
 needless and ugly war? No one outside the U.S. understands this 
 disconnect. I am not trying to be rude, but you need to know this is the 
 way it is.

 I don't agree that the war in Iraq was needless.  I do agree that it is 
 ugly. ALL war is ugly.  ALL war is awful.  ALL loss of life in a war is a 
 catastrophic loss to the world.

 I don't have the guts to tell the people of Iraq, that the MILLIONS of 
 people of that Saddam slaughtered didn't mean anything.  I don't have the 
 stomach to say that the loss of 4,000 american lives was too high a cost 
 to save Millions of Iraqis from the worst dictator since Stalin and Pol 
 Pot.


 Saddam was hung by his own people, for crimes he committed against the 
 Iraqis.  I am proud that American soldiers put their lives in danger and 
 gave the ultimate sacrifice to help Iraq try to choose their own course. 
 I am VERY proud that the people of Iraq got to vote for their leaders for 
 the first time in decades.

 I am not trying to be rude, either. However I don't know what country you 
 are from, but I will say this.  All of these commentators from other 
 countries who say that America is the now one of the most hated countries 
 in the world, and all of the protestors in other countries chanting death 
 to America ought to stop and think about what would happen if the US 
 complied with their wishes for complete self determination.

 What would happen if the US stopped the BILLIONS of dollars in foreign 
 aid, what would happen if the US decided it would stop forgiving interest 
 payments on outstanding loans.  What would happen if the US told these 
 countries that beg for help from the US, that we are tired of being 
 vilified in your press and then also asked for help.

 These countries that scream insults about the US and chant death to 
 America are like a teenager who screams I hate you, Dad! Why don't you 
 just leave me alone.  Then the child goes up to their room which is 
 provided by dad and plays their Ipod paid for by dad and then drives the 
 car bought by dad and just wants to be left alone.

 The USA will never do this, but I sure wish we would agree to their 
 demands 

[MBZ] Sheesh

2008-07-02 Thread Curt Raymond
If its not one thing its another. Got my new roll of wire, fed the dog, fed 
myself. Spent some time with the dog.
Got back out to the garage, put the new wire in, got it fed through the gun 
correctly, made a few welds, beat the metal to a better shape (I did a better 
job on the other side. The seam needs to be under the car not at the middle of 
the bend under the car, I didn't know that before. 
Now its raining...

Productivity grinds to a halt...

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] US Foreign Aid

2008-07-02 Thread John Robbins
Bill R wrote:
 OK, back on my soapbox.  It was awhile ago, but back when I did study such

big snip

Thanks for the informed comment!

John


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Re: [MBZ] US Foreign Aid

2008-07-02 Thread Bill R
OK, briefly back on soapbox.  Much of those billions of $ have been in the
form of military aid.  For the most part read here aid to our munitions
industry [yes, our tax dollars buy weapons from our manufacturers to give to
poor countries, and that 'aid' not infrequently is turned on local people or
ends of being in the hands of the people our soldiers are fighting.  Much of
the rest has gone to projects that do little to assist the people, but do
help the bank accounts of the wealthy in those countries.  I'll spare you a
dissertation on how things moved from self-sustaining to colonial to neo
colonial with foreign 'masters' being replaced by former toadies.  In my
opinion most of us misunderstand the meaning and political purpose of 'aid',
and who is actually aided.
BillR   

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Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 10:22 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] US Foreign Aid

Agree completely - we send way too much of our tax dollars to questionable 
locations to be used for questionable projects - and usually most of the 
money ends up in the pockets of evil people.

With the exception of Israel, we could stop sending those billionS you 
mention and little would happen.

I'd like to know what all those billions spent have accomplished?
They certainly don't buy good will.

Of course, IMNSHO, all that animosity is caused by jealousy.

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- Original Message - 
From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GWB


 Mac wrote: How can a nation turn on a president because he got a hummer 
 in a closet... then RE-ELECT another pres who has dragged them into a 
 needless and ugly war? No one outside the U.S. understands this 
 disconnect. I am not trying to be rude, but you need to know this is the 
 way it is.

 I don't agree that the war in Iraq was needless.  I do agree that it is 
 ugly. ALL war is ugly.  ALL war is awful.  ALL loss of life in a war is a 
 catastrophic loss to the world.

 I don't have the guts to tell the people of Iraq, that the MILLIONS of 
 people of that Saddam slaughtered didn't mean anything.  I don't have the 
 stomach to say that the loss of 4,000 american lives was too high a cost 
 to save Millions of Iraqis from the worst dictator since Stalin and Pol 
 Pot.


 Saddam was hung by his own people, for crimes he committed against the 
 Iraqis.  I am proud that American soldiers put their lives in danger and 
 gave the ultimate sacrifice to help Iraq try to choose their own course. 
 I am VERY proud that the people of Iraq got to vote for their leaders for 
 the first time in decades.

 I am not trying to be rude, either. However I don't know what country you 
 are from, but I will say this.  All of these commentators from other 
 countries who say that America is the now one of the most hated countries 
 in the world, and all of the protestors in other countries chanting death 
 to America ought to stop and think about what would happen if the US 
 complied with their wishes for complete self determination.

 What would happen if the US stopped the BILLIONS of dollars in foreign 
 aid, what would happen if the US decided it would stop forgiving interest 
 payments on outstanding loans.  What would happen if the US told these 
 countries that beg for help from the US, that we are tired of being 
 vilified in your press and then also asked for help.

 These countries that scream insults about the US and chant death to 
 America are like a teenager who screams I hate you, Dad! Why don't you 
 just leave me alone.  Then the child goes up to their room which is 
 provided by dad and plays their Ipod paid for by dad and then drives the 
 car bought by dad and just wants to be left alone.

 The USA will never do this, but I sure wish we would agree to their 
 demands and just leave these other countries alone and leave them to their

 devices.  You don't want our help, okay.

 Donald H. Snook




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Re: [MBZ] US Foreign Aid

2008-07-02 Thread Bill R
And let my soapbox rants not imply that true humanitarian aid is not
helpful, even if that also is often not appropriate [i.e., the 'almost'
outdated medical supplies donated in the past].
BillR

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Actually, we meddle everywhere.

I guess we should cut off all foreign aid  just let people starve?

Or maybe we should have not offered foreign aide in the first place and let
millions of people starve every year?

Sure, shipments get hijacked and food gets misappropriated but enough gets
through to make a huge difference.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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LarryT wrote:
 Of course, IMNSHO, all that animosity is caused by jealousy.

So all the meddling we've done in the middle east doesn't bother them a bit?

John


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Re: [MBZ] US Foreign Aid

2008-07-02 Thread John Robbins
Bill R wrote:
 And let my soapbox rants not imply that true humanitarian aid is not
 helpful, even if that also is often not appropriate [i.e., the 'almost'
 outdated medical supplies donated in the past].

Could you remove a few double negatives from that? ;)



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[MBZ] Need 220v-24v transformer with center tapped secondary

2008-07-02 Thread Archer
Trying to find a 220v transformer with a 24v center tapped secondary since 
I need 12v as well.
Found plenty of 220v - 24v transformers on the net; Digikey, Grainger, 
Nextag, HVAC  websites, pool supply co's. etc; but couldn't find any 
220v-24v transformers with a center tap.  Have very limited space in the 
control box, so I can't use two 110v transformers in series.
Thanks,
Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] Need 220v-24v transformer with center tapped secondary

2008-07-02 Thread John Robbins
Archer wrote:
 Trying to find a 220v transformer with a 24v center tapped secondary since 
 I need 12v as well.
 Found plenty of 220v - 24v transformers on the net; Digikey, Grainger, 
 Nextag, HVAC  websites, pool supply co's. etc; but couldn't find any 
 220v-24v transformers with a center tap.  Have very limited space in the 
 control box, so I can't use two 110v transformers in series.

What kind of load are you powering?  If the load is light enough you 
might be able to make your own transformer to fit.  I can't help on 
actually building it, but it isn't difficult from what I've seen of the 
EE guys doing it at work.  And they make some crazy oddball transformers.

John


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Re: [MBZ] 92 300TE

2008-07-02 Thread Luther
Well, it has most of it's interior removed, and the engine/tranny is 
removed

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 tell me about it

 Luther wrote:
   
 I've got a car you can buy for $500

 Luther

 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 
 you should be honored for me to buy your car for $500

   


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Re: [MBZ] any gas to diesel engine swap ideas for '92 Dodge 350, van (1 ton)?

2008-07-02 Thread MG
I looked into that years ago and was told by Dodge mechanics at the time 
that the Cummins would not fit. It was too long and too tall. One guy 
did say that I might be able to put a GM 6.5 in it. I chose to get a 
Chevy van and put the 6.5 into that. At least that way I knew that 
everything would be as easy as possible. Just an out with the old and in 
with the new. No modes to the frame. Getting 18-20 with a NA 6.5.

Manfred



Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:41:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED]


As you can see from my sig, I have a 1992 Dodge 250 Ram Wagon (16
  passenger van). My wife took it to WI yesterday and was thrilled to get
  12-13 mpg. Yipee.

What are my options, if any, on swapping the 5.9 liter gas engine out
  for a diesel engine?...preferably a Cummins, but ease of swap is also a
  consideration.

Thanks!

Chris

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Re: [MBZ] US Foreign Aid

2008-07-02 Thread Tom Hargrave
Oh, we do that too, all aimed at our long term benefit.

We bribe countries to prevent war (N. Korea)

We bribe countries to prevent the spread of weapons grade nuclear
material (Ukrane)

We bribe countries to be a stablizing force in a region (Isreal and 20
years ago, Iraq)

In each case, the bribe is much less costly than the alternative.

Thanks, Tom
256-656-1924

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Tom Hargrave wrote:
 I guess we should cut off all foreign aid  just let people starve?

I wasn't talking about foreign aid...  more of out trying to influence 
and control the politics of the region.

John


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Re: [MBZ] US Foreign Aid

2008-07-02 Thread Tom Hargrave
We really have no choice with China. They have gotten too large and too
influential. The dance we do between Taiwan and China is a necessary
compromise.

All politics is about compromise, no exception.

Thanks, Tom
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Sent: 7/2/08 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] US Foreign Aid

Heres one I don't understand. How can we toe the line and accept that
Taiwan is a Renegade Province of China but yet sell them weapons?
If we're selling weapons to Taiwan how can we give China Most Favored
Nation trade status?
Massive paradox. Our ability to look the other way when stuff doesn't
make sense astounds me.
Of course I know the answer to this conundrum, greed.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:44:18 -0500
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Actually, we meddle everywhere.

I guess we should cut off all foreign aid  just let people starve?

Or maybe we should have not offered foreign aide in the first place and
let
millions of people starve every year?

Sure, shipments get hijacked and food gets misappropriated but enough
gets
through to make a huge difference.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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Re: [MBZ] Welding on the 190D

2008-07-02 Thread Archer
Try the Salvation Army store, Goodwill store, Sherriffs store (if there is 
one in Jax), or similar places.
Those stores around here sell them for as little as $15.  You can buy the 
whole oven for the turntable and you'll also have sheet metal for welding.
Gerry
--
From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 OK, it was worth a try.
 BillR
 Hey Jim - While you are cutting up old microwaves I am wondering if you
 might have access to a 13.5 glass turntable with the three smaller
 tabs on
 the bottom.  I broke mine and Maytag wants $63 to replace it.

 Nope, sorry.  I only ever cut up two.  One that died at work
 so I took it (for the heavy cord) and then used the sheet metal
 since I still had it.  The other because it was a burned-up
 but identical model to the small one in our camper that had a
 bad door safety switch.

 -- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Smokin hot deal on '85 500SEL

2008-07-02 Thread Mitch Haley
John Robbins wrote:
 Cost of fuel?


That chassis with four wheel SLS and rust free body has to be worth something 
here in Michigan. Would make an awesome tow truck with a trailer hitch added
to it.

I wonder what kind of MPG a 250SDL would get.
Still got that wrecked 190D turbo sitting here, but I never got around to 
Finnizing the IP or making an exhaust manifold for the VNT.

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Re: [MBZ] Smokin hot deal on '85 500SEL

2008-07-02 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That chassis with four wheel SLS and rust free body has to be worth something
 here in Michigan. Would make an awesome tow truck with a trailer hitch added
 to it.


The picture with the SLS at max height made me want to put some mud
tires on it and go four-wheeling.  Wonder if it has a factory LSD?

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Smokin hot deal on '85 500SEL

2008-07-02 Thread Mitch Haley
Alex Chamberlain wrote:

 The picture with the SLS at max height made me want to put some mud
 tires on it and go four-wheeling.  Wonder if it has a factory LSD?

If so, it probably quit working at least ten years ago. The LSD on my 190E
is wide open now, can't spin both tires on grass. I'm not sure if ASD holds
up better over time, or if there's any chance the 500SEL has ASD.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Question

2008-07-02 Thread R A Bennell
Have not tried to hit it hard from a stop but did find that it was happier if I 
pushed the button the end of the
shifter to lock out overdrive.

Randy

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Question


Does it matter what gear its in? What if you really thump it from a standing 
start?

I'd say one of two things:

Fuel pump - in which case it should shudder (badly) when thumped hard from a 
standing start
or
Spark plugs - in which case the shudder might improve if you downshift.

I've seen both, the latter when I'd shifted to splitfire plugs...

-Curt

Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 11:18:12 -0500
From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] OT Ford Question
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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I encountered trouble with my 02 F150 this weekend. It runs fine on flat ground 
but shudders when I increase the
fuel on hills. I initially wondered if it was a transmission issue as I had 
just changed out the filter and AT
fluid but I now think it is just a fuel issue. I got a service engine soon 
light on the dash but I may have done
myself a disservice by cleaning the battery posts as that has now been re-set I 
guess since it is  not coming on. I
have a scan tool but have not tried it yet. I was on my way to the lake on 
Sunday and was 100 miles from home when
this appeared out of the blue. I continued on the rest of the way - another 80 
miles or so - and then came back on
Tuesday. It acted the same - never got any worse - was just unhappy climbing 
hills. I ran the last 100 miles at
normal speeds of 65-70 mph without any real issues. It just did not like 
climbing the hills closer to the lake. If
speeds dropped to 50 mph I had some difficulty climbing back to 60 mph.

Anyone encounter this sort of thing? My brother-in-law, the mechanic suggests 
it may be an oxygen sensor but says
get the scan tool on it and see what it says. Good advice I guess. I initially 
wondered if it might be as simple as
a fuel filter plugging up.

Also wonder if it might be time to change spark plugs. It has 110K miles or so. 
Had about 92K miles when I got it.
I have yet to change plugs. No idea if PO ever did. Starts fine. Misses a 
little at idle when cold. Didn't seem to
be missing when I got home and it was hot. I sat in the truck with the motor 
running for a couple of minutes while
I gathered stuff and it was smooth enough that I looked at the tach to see if 
it was running.

Randy





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Re: [MBZ] US Foreign Aid

2008-07-02 Thread Bill R
I could try.  How many do you want out?
Comes from beginning to wax soapbox poetic and then tying to change it with
a three year old wanting me to do something else.
BillR 

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Bill R wrote:
 And let my soapbox rants not imply that true humanitarian aid is not
 helpful, even if that also is often not appropriate [i.e., the 'almost'
 outdated medical supplies donated in the past].

Could you remove a few double negatives from that? ;)



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Re: [MBZ] OT Catheyesque repair of the day

2008-07-02 Thread Kevin Kraly
It held up for a few more laps around the pool, so now, it's onto bigger and 
ddeper bodies of water.  I almost forgot another repair!  The steering shaft 
boot had cracked and deteriorated, so I pressed the fat end of an eye 
dropper end into the hull and popped the shaft through the hole.  It works 
as good as new!

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300sD 267Kmi, Ursula 


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Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

2008-07-02 Thread R A Bennell
Well, I don't want this thread to get out of hand so bear in mind that I'm just 
playing devil's advocate to a
great extent but I think my example was not truly fictional. I recall a news 
story from a few years back where a
foreign student who did not speak much english went to a house by mistake while 
looking for a party (or something
like that) and got shot for his trouble. Frightened people with guns in hand 
can make poor choices. I know I would
be real polite if ever I got in a fender bender south of the border, even if it 
was the other driver's fault. I
wouldn't have a gun but they well might and if they were angry and perhaps 
drunk, who knows what might happen to
me.

I'm sure that there are lots of responsible citizens who keep guns and never 
misuse them. One of them might even
come to my rescue if I were threatened by some goof with a gun.

However, I am concerned about the less than responsible citizens who also have 
firearms and may well lack the
common sense required to make good decisions.

Randy


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To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights


R A Bennell wrote:
 Yeah, I suppose so, but I better not have car trouble at night and try to get 
 help at someone's home either. They
 might have to protect themselves or their country if I knock on the door, 
 right?

You come up with the most wild fantasies and present them as logic...
Your mounties seem just as likely to shoot somebody for no good reason as our
cops are, yet I haven't seen you advocating for mountie disarmament, or pissing
your pants because there are armed mounties running around.

Standard USA statistics: When a peon shoots somebody with defensive intent, 98%
of the time they needed shooting, according to the police. When the police shoot
somebody, 89% of the time they needed shooting, again according to the police,
who in cases of police shootings have an extreme pro-shooter bias.

Example: a military policeman (out of uniform) is a passenger in a motorcar.
San Diego cop stops the car and holds the occupants at gunpoint. He yells
get up at the MP, who is on the ground. MP begins to rise, so the cop shoots
him dead. This murder was ruled justifiable, when I believe it should have
been added to the 11% in which the cops had no business playing with dangerous
weapons in public.

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[MBZ] 87 300D antenna grommet

2008-07-02 Thread Wilton Strickland
Grommet is replaced.  Thanks for the tips.

Yeah, getting the fender liner out and back in is the biggest hassle.  Ya
hafta get sorta rough with it; 'can't be shy and timid.

Pull left front edge of trunk floor carpet up and over, pull left end of
carpet behind fuel tank back, grasp fender liner near its front and pull
hard (holes in it help get a good grip), rolling it around to the right into
the trunk; pull top edge of liner from under top of fender; while pulling
front part of liner around into trunk, roll rear half of liner up and out
of well behind the wheel.

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

2008-07-02 Thread R A Bennell
Well, the flood that I was referring to did more damage to Grand Forks, ND than 
it did to us. There was a lake from
here to there that you could have travelled by boat and it is something like 
140 miles away. Grand Forks had all
sorts of trouble including a major fire in the old downtown area that the 
firemen couldn't get to because the water
was 3 feet deep in the streets, but I don't recall looting or particularly bad 
behaviour. That seems to have been a
New Orleans thing.

Randy

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R A Bennell wrote:
 We had massive flooding here in 1997 and to the best of my knowledge there 
 was no looting or shooting.

Well, that could change if you had our government there to throw you out of your
homes and take your keys for safekeeping.

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Re: [MBZ] 87 300D antenna grommet

2008-07-02 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Well described. 

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles.  
1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 
1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles.
Wickford, RI

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Subject: [MBZ] 87 300D antenna grommet

Grommet is replaced.  Thanks for the tips.

Yeah, getting the fender liner out and back in is the biggest hassle.  Ya
hafta get sorta rough with it; 'can't be shy and timid.

Pull left front edge of trunk floor carpet up and over, pull left end of
carpet behind fuel tank back, grasp fender liner near its front and pull
hard (holes in it help get a good grip), rolling it around to the right into
the trunk; pull top edge of liner from under top of fender; while pulling
front part of liner around into trunk, roll rear half of liner up and out
of well behind the wheel.

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] Bouncing speedometer needle

2008-07-02 Thread Euan
My 300TD has experienced a succession of bouncing speedo needles, most 
noticeable (annoying) at low speeds.

The fixes suggested on this forum over the years have almost always 
stressed the wisdom of buying a new cable (the insert). It worked for 
me, was cheap, and was easy to fit.

I had a new cable outer fitted once.  Not so easy or cheap.

I believe the inners stick at the speedo end of the business. This is 
where dashboard heat, especially in the sun, really cooks up the works 
and dries things out.

Buy a new inner. That's what Marshall would have said.

Cheers

Euan

1985 300TD 5-spd manual
210K mi

Christchurch
NZ

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Re: [MBZ] any gas to diesel engine swap ideas for '92 Dodge 350, van (1 ton)?

2008-07-02 Thread Bill R
Hi Manfred - Have not seen your comments in awhile.  Good to know you are
out and about.
BillR

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van (1 ton)?

I looked into that years ago and was told by Dodge mechanics at the time 
that the Cummins would not fit. It was too long and too tall. One guy 
did say that I might be able to put a GM 6.5 in it. I chose to get a 
Chevy van and put the 6.5 into that. At least that way I knew that 
everything would be as easy as possible. Just an out with the old and in 
with the new. No modes to the frame. Getting 18-20 with a NA 6.5.

Manfred



Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:41:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED]


As you can see from my sig, I have a 1992 Dodge 250 Ram Wagon (16
  passenger van). My wife took it to WI yesterday and was thrilled to get
  12-13 mpg. Yipee.

What are my options, if any, on swapping the 5.9 liter gas engine out
  for a diesel engine?...preferably a Cummins, but ease of swap is also a
  consideration.

Thanks!

Chris

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Re: [MBZ] Welding on the 190D

2008-07-02 Thread Bill R
If only I could weld...  Yes, I think I have tried all of the thrift stores
around.  When I bought the house the glass was missing in the microwave and
after looking for a few months I found one [and bought the unit and gave it
to the sales clerk], but had to grind off much of the bottom tabs as they
were the long ones rather than the short ones.  I make regular rounds with a
tape measure, but no luck yet.  I thought that was a fairly common unit, but
the only ones I have seen in thrift stores have been $60+ also.   
BillR

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Try the Salvation Army store, Goodwill store, Sherriffs store (if there is 
one in Jax), or similar places.
Those stores around here sell them for as little as $15.  You can buy the 
whole oven for the turntable and you'll also have sheet metal for welding.
Gerry
--
From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 OK, it was worth a try.
 BillR
 Hey Jim - While you are cutting up old microwaves I am wondering if you
 might have access to a 13.5 glass turntable with the three smaller
 tabs on
 the bottom.  I broke mine and Maytag wants $63 to replace it.

 Nope, sorry.  I only ever cut up two.  One that died at work
 so I took it (for the heavy cord) and then used the sheet metal
 since I still had it.  The other because it was a burned-up
 but identical model to the small one in our camper that had a
 bad door safety switch.

 -- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

2008-07-02 Thread Mitch Haley
R A Bennell wrote:
   However, I am concerned about the less than responsible citizens who also 
have firearms and may well lack the
 common sense required to make good decisions.

In USA and UK, we call those people Certified Law Enforcement Officers.
The really funny part about the boobies is that something like 45-50% of the 
people they shoot (all shootings, not just killings) are coppers, lots of 
'friendly fire' and self inflicted wounds over there.


The exchange student you mentioned was newsworthy, it's the only such death I 
can recall in the last ten years, and it was at least five years ago. The 
homeowner probably thought the Japanese guy was hispanic and then assumed a 
robbery would happen in the next few seconds.

We've probably had 50,000-100,000 people killed by bathtubs in USA in the last 
ten years, so the rare death of an unexpected visitor is a drop in the bucket. 
In fact, the few hundred who are slaughtered by cops, or the few hundred who 
die 
on bicycles every year, are also a drop in the bucket. But that doesn't stop me 
from going on High Alert if there's an armed deputy on my property unless I 
invited him here.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Question

2008-07-02 Thread Curt Raymond
Thats exactly what my Dakota was doing. My Indy at the time said it was the 
trans totally failing. I replaced all the sparkplugs and the problem went away. 
That was at least 100,000 miles ago.

-Curt

--- On Wed, 7/2/08, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [MBZ] OT Ford Question
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 4:43 PM

Have not tried to hit it hard from a stop but did find that it was happier if I
pushed the button the end of the
shifter to lock out overdrive.

Randy

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Does it matter what gear its in? What if you really thump it from a standing
start?

I'd say one of two things:

Fuel pump - in which case it should shudder (badly) when thumped hard from a
standing start
or
Spark plugs - in which case the shudder might improve if you downshift.

I've seen both, the latter when I'd shifted to splitfire plugs...

-Curt

Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 11:18:12 -0500
From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] OT Ford Question
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

I encountered trouble with my 02 F150 this weekend. It runs fine on flat ground
but shudders when I increase the
fuel on hills. I initially wondered if it was a transmission issue as I had
just changed out the filter and AT
fluid but I now think it is just a fuel issue. I got a service engine
soon light on the dash but I may have done
myself a disservice by cleaning the battery posts as that has now been re-set I
guess since it is  not coming on. I
have a scan tool but have not tried it yet. I was on my way to the lake on
Sunday and was 100 miles from home when
this appeared out of the blue. I continued on the rest of the way - another 80
miles or so - and then came back on
Tuesday. It acted the same - never got any worse - was just unhappy climbing
hills. I ran the last 100 miles at
normal speeds of 65-70 mph without any real issues. It just did not like
climbing the hills closer to the lake. If
speeds dropped to 50 mph I had some difficulty climbing back to 60 mph.

Anyone encounter this sort of thing? My brother-in-law, the mechanic suggests
it may be an oxygen sensor but says
get the scan tool on it and see what it says. Good advice I guess. I initially
wondered if it might be as simple as
a fuel filter plugging up.

Also wonder if it might be time to change spark plugs. It has 110K miles or so.
Had about 92K miles when I got it.
I have yet to change plugs. No idea if PO ever did. Starts fine. Misses a
little at idle when cold. Didn't seem to
be missing when I got home and it was hot. I sat in the truck with the motor
running for a couple of minutes while
I gathered stuff and it was smooth enough that I looked at the tach to see if
it was running.

Randy





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Re: [MBZ] OT I think I hate vista

2008-07-02 Thread Peter Frederick
This is why I use a Mac.  I can still use almost all my old software  
in OS 10.4.11.

Peter


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[MBZ] Finally!

2008-07-02 Thread Curt Raymond
After much welding, hammering, grinding and all. The second rear jack point is 
complete. This one took more metal but I did manage to retain one of the 
factory drains that I had to lose on the other side. 
Lessons learned:
Start from the top and work down.
Make sure the top piece goes down around the curve, use a flat piece on the 
bottom.
Don't touch hot metal without gloves on...

Its in paint right now, in an hour or so I'll hit it with the undercoating. I 
put a picture of the first side and a before on this one on my blog.
http://curtsotherblog.blogspot.com/


-Curt


  
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Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

2008-07-02 Thread R A Bennell
Two further comments and then I'm going to abandon this thread. You can have 
the final word if need be.

1. I don't want to be the unexpected visitor who gets shot. I could go to the 
houses around here and bang on the
door in the dark and no one would shoot me. They might not answer the door if 
they were afraid of me, but it is
very unlikely that they would attack me in any manner.

2. Do you not think that one of the problems for law enforcement officers is 
the fact that they fear the folks that
they are dealing with have guns? Shoot first and ask questions later. One way 
to stay alive when it is your job to
go in and deal with something that might go bad. Cops are human too and no 
doubt afraid on more occasions than they
care to admit.

Randy

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R A Bennell wrote:
   However, I am concerned about the less than responsible citizens who also
have firearms and may well lack the
 common sense required to make good decisions.

In USA and UK, we call those people Certified Law Enforcement Officers.
The really funny part about the boobies is that something like 45-50% of the
people they shoot (all shootings, not just killings) are coppers, lots of
'friendly fire' and self inflicted wounds over there.


The exchange student you mentioned was newsworthy, it's the only such death I
can recall in the last ten years, and it was at least five years ago. The
homeowner probably thought the Japanese guy was hispanic and then assumed a
robbery would happen in the next few seconds.

We've probably had 50,000-100,000 people killed by bathtubs in USA in the last
ten years, so the rare death of an unexpected visitor is a drop in the bucket.
In fact, the few hundred who are slaughtered by cops, or the few hundred who die
on bicycles every year, are also a drop in the bucket. But that doesn't stop me
from going on High Alert if there's an armed deputy on my property unless I
invited him here.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] OT I think I hate vista

2008-07-02 Thread Gary Hurst
he is too cheap for a macintosh and too stupid for hackintosh.  but conclude
that vista is his answer?

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wrote:

 This is why I use a Mac.  I can still use almost all my old software
 in OS 10.4.11.

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Re: [MBZ] OT I think I hate vista

2008-07-02 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 he is too cheap for a macintosh and too stupid for hackintosh.  but conclude
 that vista is his answer?


Obviously he should be using Ubuntu, which seems to be the official
Linux distribution of the Okiebenz list if not of its proprietor.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] OT I think I hate vista

2008-07-02 Thread Gary Hurst
we tried to get him to use ubuntu, but he seems to fear anything that
doesn't come from microsoft..

it's a lost cause.

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wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  he is too cheap for a macintosh and too stupid for hackintosh.  but
 conclude
  that vista is his answer?
 

 Obviously he should be using Ubuntu, which seems to be the official
 Linux distribution of the Okiebenz list if not of its proprietor.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Catheyesque repair of the day

2008-07-02 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 07:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It'd be nice to see my welding improve...

Time on the rod, Curt, time on the rod.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

2008-07-02 Thread Redghost
Today's paper had a small column note about the old codger in TX who  
saw some nefarious activity taking place at the home of a neighbor.   
Seems a couple ruffians were seen exiting the window of said  
neighbor's home and codger calls cops to advise that he sees  
criminals and is gonna shoot them.  Cops plead not to do that.  He  
does, dead bad guys, dropped charges against codger.  Recent as two  
weeks ago, just now figured out city could do without those criminals

clay



On 2 Jul 2008, at 13:55, R A Bennell wrote:

 Well, I don't want this thread to get out of hand so bear in mind  
 that I'm just playing devil's advocate to a
 great extent but I think my example was not truly fictional. I  
 recall a news story from a few years back where a
 foreign student who did not speak much english went to a house by  
 mistake while looking for a party (or something
 like that) and got shot for his trouble. Frightened people with  
 guns in hand can make poor choices. I know I would
 be real polite if ever I got in a fender bender south of the  
 border, even if it was the other driver's fault. I
 wouldn't have a gun but they well might and if they were angry and  
 perhaps drunk, who knows what might happen to
 me.

 I'm sure that there are lots of responsible citizens who keep guns  
 and never misuse them. One of them might even
 come to my rescue if I were threatened by some goof with a gun.

 However, I am concerned about the less than responsible citizens  
 who also have firearms and may well lack the
 common sense required to make good decisions.

 Randy


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 R A Bennell wrote:
 Yeah, I suppose so, but I better not have car trouble at night and  
 try to get help at someone's home either. They
 might have to protect themselves or their country if I knock on  
 the door, right?

 You come up with the most wild fantasies and present them as logic...
 Your mounties seem just as likely to shoot somebody for no good  
 reason as our
 cops are, yet I haven't seen you advocating for mountie  
 disarmament, or pissing
 your pants because there are armed mounties running around.

 Standard USA statistics: When a peon shoots somebody with defensive  
 intent, 98%
 of the time they needed shooting, according to the police. When the  
 police shoot
 somebody, 89% of the time they needed shooting, again according to  
 the police,
 who in cases of police shootings have an extreme pro-shooter bias.

 Example: a military policeman (out of uniform) is a passenger in a  
 motorcar.
 San Diego cop stops the car and holds the occupants at gunpoint. He  
 yells
 get up at the MP, who is on the ground. MP begins to rise, so the  
 cop shoots
 him dead. This murder was ruled justifiable, when I believe it  
 should have
 been added to the 11% in which the cops had no business playing  
 with dangerous
 weapons in public.

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Re: [MBZ] Finally!

2008-07-02 Thread Bill R
Looks good, Curt.  You didn't post a picture of your reminder about not
touching hot metal ... .

My big discovery of the day is that two heads of garlic peel down to about
50 cloves.  And I certainly hope that garlic / onion soup my darling wife
wants to make for me will be worth it, or I might request that she stop
watching Emeril [as if that would matter].  On the whole pretty good ideas
and recipes thus far.
BillR

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-Curt


  
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Re: [MBZ] Need 220v-24v transformer with center tapped secondary

2008-07-02 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:12:24 -0500 John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Archer wrote:
  Trying to find a 220v transformer with a 24v center tapped secondary
  since  I need 12v as well.
  Found plenty of 220v - 24v transformers on the net; Digikey, Grainger,
  Nextag, HVAC  websites, pool supply co's. etc; but couldn't find any 
  220v-24v transformers with a center tap.  Have very limited space in
  the  control box, so I can't use two 110v transformers in series.
 
 What kind of load are you powering?  If the load is light enough you 
 might be able to make your own transformer to fit.  I can't help on 
 actually building it, but it isn't difficult from what I've seen of the 
 EE guys doing it at work.  And they make some crazy oddball
 transformers.

And starting with an existing transformer, particularly one with separated
windings, makes it all the easier.

How much current do you need? What else is in the control box?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT I think I hate vista

2008-07-02 Thread Wonko the Sane
I'm not using Ubuntu on anything right now. Correction -- it is still on the
wife's laptop. My personal laptops are running Mepis 7, PCLOS Gnome 2008,
and antiX.

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  he is too cheap for a macintosh and too stupid for hackintosh.  but
 conclude
  that vista is his answer?
 

 Obviously he should be using Ubuntu, which seems to be the official
 Linux distribution of the Okiebenz list if not of its proprietor.

 Alex

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