Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2001-11-16 Thread JaMi Smith
Autorouter? Whats an autorouter? You mean you there's something besides black tape and #16 blades? JaMi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Tim Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 6:07 AM To: Protel EDA Form Subject: [PEDA] Autorouter

Re: [PEDA] Copper Calculations

2001-11-19 Thread JaMi Smith
related posts to the PCDList listserver forum lately, and much useful related information may be gleened by looking at some of those archives. The list can be accessed via the PCDMag site at: == http://lyris.mfi.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=pcdlist Hopefully this clears up some of the confusion. JaMi

Re: [PEDA] Routing in Single Layer Mode

2001-11-21 Thread JaMi Smith
area of the screen, and if that doesn't work, I find that simply hitting enter on the keyboard once will do the job. If something is actually selected, then a quick E E A (Edit - dEselect - All) should do the job. JaMi Smith Optical Crossing Inc

Re: [PEDA] Where does Protel check or flag double hits on drills?

2001-11-21 Thread JaMi Smith
the finals. JaMi Smith Optical Crossing Inc. ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** -Original Message- From: Brad Velander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 4:50 PM To: Protel EDA Forum List Server (E-mail) Subject: [PEDA] Where does Protel check or flag

[PEDA] Now see what you did ! ! !

2001-12-09 Thread JaMi Smith

Re: [PEDA] Now see what you did ! ! !

2001-12-09 Thread JaMi Smith
Steve, I actually had tried several times using two different systems and ISP's (earthlink.net and sbcglobal.net), before I posted to the list, but no sooner than I posted it was back up. May be some routing or other problems involved with the various services due to the time of year and heavy

Re: [PEDA] Virus warning

2001-12-10 Thread JaMi Smith
Do you remember who was it from, or at least what the topic was? This would help tremendously. -Original Message- From: Sean James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 9:44 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Cc: Richard Cerny Subject: [PEDA] Virus warning I think there is an

Re: [PEDA] Looking for a resistor supplier. for a SENSE RESISTOR

2002-01-22 Thread JaMi Smith
a good source for small surface mount tubular sense resistors, please pass it on to me. JaMi Smith Optical Crossing Inc. Glendale CA * * * * * * * * * * -Original Message- From: Juha Pajunen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 4:37 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject

Re: [PEDA] Looking for a resistor supplier.

2002-01-23 Thread JaMi Smith
My responses are below, preceeded by *** JaMi Smith Optical Crossing Inc. -Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:57 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Cc: JaMi Smith Subject: Re: [PEDA] Looking for a resistor supplier. At 06

Re: [PEDA] Report Length of Selection

2002-01-24 Thread JaMi Smith
Brian, This may not be exactly what you're looking for, but under Reports you should find Netlist Status which will generate a report with the net lengths in it. JaMi Smith Optical Crossing Inc. * * * * * * -Original Message- From: Brian Sherer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent

Re: [PEDA] Multiple database users

2002-01-28 Thread JaMi Smith
if it is already opened by another process). I say sometimes here because it appears that Protel is not completely consistant in it's behavior all of the time when it comes to multiple instances or processes and file sharing, (at least with my installation). JaMi Smith Optical Crossing Inc

Re: [PEDA] Via's to close to pads.

2002-01-31 Thread JaMi Smith
Afshin, Have you considered tenting your vias (covering them with solder mask), which should eliminate the problem and bring it back into the range of a standard clearance problem? JaMi Smith Optical Crossing * * * * * * * * * -Original Message- From: Afshin Salehi [mailto:[EMAIL

[PEDA] Writing messages all day . . .

2002-02-14 Thread JaMi Smith
] 1 post Interesting . . . Some people just seem to have a lot of free time on their hands . . . JaMi Smith * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html

Re: [PEDA] Writing messages all day . . . the response . . .

2002-02-17 Thread JaMi Smith
the needs of the market and their responsibility to their existing customers. JaMi Smith * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact

Re: [PEDA] Performance difference between 2 of the same machines

2002-02-18 Thread JaMi Smith

Re: [PEDA] Writing messages all day . . . the response . . .

2002-02-18 Thread JaMi Smith
have been using, or should I say abusing, up until Friday. Yes, another satisfied Protel Customer. Sorry to dump, but you did ask. Does this shed any insight into why I believe that there should be no covering up or playing down of legitimate problems with Protel here in the list. JaMi Smith

Re: [PEDA] Thermals not recognised by our board house

2002-02-18 Thread JaMi Smith
Andrew, What do you see when you load your gerbers into Camtastic? That might shed a little light on the problem. JaMi Smith * * * - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 1:35 AM Subject: [PEDA] Thermals

Re: [PEDA] Writing messages all day . . . hopefully, the final response . . .

2002-02-18 Thread JaMi Smith
PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Writing messages all day . . . the response . . . warning: a long response to a long post, not directly related to support. At 06:40 PM 2/17/2002 -0800, JaMi Smith wrote: Unfortunately

Re: [PEDA] What does printed circuit board mean to you?

2002-02-20 Thread JaMi Smith
have the EDA companies began to take notice. (Go ahead, ask Protel what an RF Choke is, and how to make one in Protel). Hopefully of some help, JaMi Smith -Original Message- From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 8:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PEDA] What does printed circuit board mean to you?

2002-02-20 Thread JaMi Smith
the loop. Could you please explain what you mean by this loop thing that you are talking about? Thanks, JaMi Smith -Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:02 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] What does printed

Re: [PEDA] RF footprints

2002-02-20 Thread JaMi Smith
on a PCB, and is actually quite common today. Now - Go ask Protel how to make it . . . No, don't give us your version (which we have already seen here in the list), but go ask Protel how to make it. JaMi Smith -Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent

Re: [PEDA] RF footprints

2002-02-20 Thread JaMi Smith
this component footprint just like any other 2 terminal component footprint, and don't screw up my netlist, and don't tell me it is an error, but I could probably live with a warning that I would have to override when the component was first used. JaMi Smith -Original Message- From: Ian

Re: [PEDA] RF footprints

2002-02-20 Thread JaMi Smith
Special Circumstances which may not be understood by the next engineer or designer that works on the board. JaMi Smith -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 3:21 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] RF footprints

Re: [PEDA] RF footprints

2002-02-20 Thread JaMi Smith
. Really, not ranting, JaMi -Original Message- From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 3:25 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] RF footprints On 02:46 PM 20/02/2002 -0800, JaMi Smith said: Abdul, Well ~ You're almost right . . . Rant On What

Re: [PEDA] Printing in 3D View mode

2002-02-25 Thread JaMi Smith
-Original Message- From: JaMi Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 11:41 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Cc: JaMi Smith; JaMi Smith Subject: [PEDA] Printing in 3D View mode I am trying to print a 3D View, and while I am going thru the motions, and everything appears to be OK, I

Re: [PEDA] PCB West

2002-03-22 Thread JaMi Smith
Tony, Have they fixed the zomming so that is like the rest of the world out there or is it still anti-intuitive (i.e.: place the cursor in the left side of the screen and zoom out so that you can then place the cursor in the right side of the screen and zoom in to the right). JaMi Smith

Re: [PEDA] Schematic standards

2002-03-25 Thread JaMi Smith
where there were symmetrical circuits involved such as a dual power supply (positive and negative) where all the capacitors came together at ground in the middle. JaMi Smith -Original Message- From: Watnoski, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 6:55 AM

Re: [PEDA] PCI Schematic Symbol

2002-03-26 Thread JaMi Smith
Scott Use the wizard to create a PCB board with the PCI connector, then Make a Library from the components of the board (which will only be the PCI connector), then copy it from that library copy it to whatever library you want it to be in. JaMi -Original Message- From: Scott Ellis

Re: [PEDA] PCI Schematic Symbol

2002-03-26 Thread JaMi Smith
(remember to have all layers turned on) to where ever you need it. JaMi -Original Message- From: JaMi Smith Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 9:13 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] PCI Schematic Symbol Scott Use the wizard to create a PCB board with the PCI connector, then Make

Re: [PEDA] PDF quality difference 98 and 99SE

2002-03-27 Thread JaMi Smith
is not always predictable, in that it may show up on one Schematic and not the next (seems to have something to do with interpreting the file). JaMi Smith -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 3:21 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject

Re: [PEDA] Footprint pads moving during or after copy/paste/move processes.

2002-03-28 Thread JaMi Smith
of the COMPONENT rather than the COMPONENT itself. Is it possible that this could have happened to you? JaMi Smith -Original Message- From: Brad Velander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 10:48 AM To: Protel EDA Forum List Server (E-mail) Subject: [PEDA] Footprint pads

Re: [PEDA] Footprint pads moving during or after copy/paste/move processes.

2002-03-28 Thread JaMi Smith
with LOCKED PRIMITIVES by any other process, or at any other time when the operator may be unaware of it. JaMi Smith * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers

Re: [PEDA] Footprint pads moving during or after copy/paste/move processes.

2002-04-01 Thread JaMi Smith
where it otherwise would not be allowed. JaMi Smith * * * -Original Message- From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 12:29 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Footprint pads moving during or after copy/paste/move processes. . . . Jami, You can

Re: [PEDA] Outlook for DXP (:

2002-04-11 Thread JaMi Smith
by application). It may have other earlier applications. JaMi Smith * * * -Original Message- From: Brian Sherer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:15 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Outlook for DXP (: Here in the land of Microsoft, we call it Vaporware

Re: [PEDA] Outlook for DXP (:

2002-04-11 Thread JaMi Smith
with the promises made to all those who bought into ATS, so that they will sign up for yet another year. Cynical? Who me? Just a realist. JaMi Smith * * * -Original Message- From: May Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:42 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA

Re: [PEDA] Duplicate pins in schlib

2002-04-12 Thread JaMi Smith
this on the schematic symbol will go along way in not only making the schematic much more understandable, but also enable you (or the engineer or programmer) to have a better chance to spot any errors due to miswiring, prior to casting the design in FR4. JaMi Smith * * * -Original Message- From

Re: [PEDA] Duplicate pins in schlib

2002-04-12 Thread JaMi Smith
Speaking just to the second part of your question as applied to item 2), i.e. the legality. Whether it is legal or not, being as charitable and kind as possible, it is simply a very bad idea. JaMi Smith * * * -Original Message- From: Matthew Leigh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent

Re: [PEDA] library orientation of designators and types ??

2002-04-12 Thread JaMi Smith
Interesting way of ascribing Intelligent Design to Sheer Oversight ... ... Actully, a feature. Here is why this happens, I think: Protel assumes, when you are placing parts, that you will want the relative locations of reference designators etc. to be as you used for the last part placed. So

Re: [PEDA] dashed box around designator

2002-04-15 Thread JaMi Smith
that you may be in the middle of, then try the fast left mouse key click again. JaMi Smith -Original Message- From: Robison Michael R CNIN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 5:46 AM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: [PEDA] dashed box around designator hello, i'm doing

Re: [PEDA] FW: Access violation -- Is it a Protel bug?

2002-04-16 Thread JaMi Smith
and that which has not changed. I would say that it is worth a try, if all you have is a large netlist, then make a copy and shorten the copy by about 30 or 40 percent, load the copy, then load the whole thing. Can't react any worse than it is now (well ... this is Protel ... so you never know). JaMi

[PEDA] Shortened Designator on Silkscreen

2002-04-23 Thread JaMi Smith
of duplicate circuits, especially of the Step and Repeat variety, whatsoever. Anyone out there got any useful ideas? JaMi Smith * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com

Re: [PEDA] PCB Specification report

2002-07-22 Thread JaMi Smith
of the capability that you are looking for. There do appear to be a few bugs with the graphic, in that it always has a few sections of its shading messed up, but it does serve as a place to start. I wish Protel would fix it, but I suppose that this is the least of Protels bugs that need fixing. JaMi Smith

Re: [PEDA] Speaking of Protel Bugs.

2002-07-23 Thread JaMi Smith
OK Ian, I will elaborate . . . On 07:22 PM 22/07/2002 -0700, JaMi Smith said: Speaking of Protel Bugs . . . What are the odds on whether your favorite Bug has been fixed in DXP? 1. ) I am betting that the Keyboard / Mouse problem that has been there since Protel 98 has not been fixed

Re: [PEDA] Speaking of Protel Bugs.

2002-07-23 Thread JaMi Smith
- Original Message - From: Tony Karavidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip -Original Message- From: JaMi Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] snip Protel 99 SE is at a minimum very instable with Microsoft Mouse Drivers, especially with Microsoft Intellimosue software and a wheel

Re: [PEDA] Microstrip footprints

2002-07-23 Thread JaMi Smith
(assuming you can tolerate FR4 in your design). JaMi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * - Original Message - From: Daniel Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Microstrip footprints Has

Re: [PEDA] Speaking of Protel Bugs.

2002-07-23 Thread JaMi Smith
original post gives me one giant sized clue. JaMi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Tracking #: 8A8504141315914DB9C506BEDA84CC5C61ACF9D6

Re: [PEDA] Speaking of Protel Bugs.

2002-07-24 Thread JaMi Smith
to look back at the screen and re-aquire the image - and that is a waste of my time - that slows me down. JaMi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Tracking #: D0EF54A748B8D249B151A073040D1E101FA31BA4

Re: [PEDA] Speaking of Protel Bugs.

2002-07-24 Thread JaMi Smith
be generous and find a 'workaround' for your screwed up mouse, but I certainly don't blame them for it. I'm done! Tony -Original Message- From: JaMi Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:58 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Cc: JaMi Smith Subject: Re: [PEDA

Re: [PEDA] IntelliMouse Drivers, Was: Speaking of Protel Bugs.

2002-07-24 Thread JaMi Smith
- Original Message - From: Bruce Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:49 PM Subject: [PEDA] IntelliMouse Drivers, Was: Speaking of Protel Bugs. It sounds like there was a problem with the Intellimouse driver - I had similar

Re: [PEDA] Speaking of Protel Bugs.

2002-07-24 Thread JaMi Smith
) Why do you insist it's Protel's fault? Maybe they could be generous and find a 'workaround' for your screwed up mouse, but I certainly don't blame them for it. I'm done! Tony -Original Message- From: JaMi Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July

Re: [PEDA] Speaking of Protel Bugs.

2002-07-25 Thread JaMi Smith
, Thank you Brian, JaMi - Original Message - From: Ian Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 11:38 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Speaking of Protel Bugs. On 11:11 PM 24/07/2002 -0700, JaMi Smith said: Thank you Brian JaMi Brian

Re: [PEDA] Altium Release Protel DXP

2002-07-30 Thread JaMi Smith
Try removing your mouse . . . Just kidding - just kidding . . . JaMi - Original Message - From: Stephen Casey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 5:15 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Altium Release Protel DXP John, I'm glad it works for

Re: [PEDA] DXP Discussion

2002-07-30 Thread JaMi Smith
Ian, This is really scarey, you beta'd the thing and you cant say anything more constructive yourself? Talk about George Orwellean 1984 doublespeak . . . JaMi - Original Message - From: Ian Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002

[PEDA] PREFIX SUBJECT HEADERS

2002-07-30 Thread JaMi Smith
Guys and Gals, It looks like this list is going to get very very busy here in the next few weeks with all of the various threads that are going to be popping up with DXP, and the ongoing fun with 99 SE. I was wondering whether or not we all might want to do ourselves a favor and come up with

Re: [PEDA] Checking if Protel 2002-07-29 Digest intact.

2002-07-30 Thread JaMi Smith
Paul, You can go look at the archive at Protel-Users-PEDA-Archive at hahoo groups. JaMi - Original Message - From: Paul Gaastra [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 12:53 PM Subject: [PEDA] Checking if Protel 2002-07-29 Digest intact. Does anyone know

Re: [PEDA] Checking if Protel 2002-07-29 Digest intact.

2002-07-31 Thread JaMi Smith
Paul, Sorry about that, seems I rotated the first Y in the word 180 degrees by accident, when I ment to say that the archive could be found at yayoo groups ;-) JaMi - Original Message - From: JaMi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: JaMi Smith [EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer! !!!

2002-07-31 Thread JaMi Smith
I didn't know that Altium had set up a DXP List, where is it? By the way: Congradulations and Welcome Home Papa! I hope that your family, including the new baby is doing fine, and look forward to a report on your month of July in China, perhaps in the OT forum where you can eloborate and no

Re: [PEDA] Jami's Protel Bugs.

2002-07-31 Thread JaMi Smith
Michael, Sorry for the delay in responding. The first things beyond simple hand taping that were in anyway pointed towards the automation that we have today in the world of PCB Design were to make photo masters on stable film which were generated on a Gerber Scientific X-Y Co-odinatograph which

Re: [PEDA] Speaking of Protel Bugs.

2002-07-31 Thread JaMi Smith
Tony, Sorry for the delayed response - just now catching up. See below - - Original Message - From: Tony Karavidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Speaking of Protel Bugs. Just because some software

Re: [PEDA] Speaking of Protel Bugs.

2002-08-01 Thread JaMi Smith
- Original Message - From: Tony Karavidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Speaking of Protel Bugs. As others have told you, there are reasons some programs misbehave when they are not the root cause.

Re: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer! !!!

2002-08-01 Thread JaMi Smith
Robert, There are a couple of different VeryBest (which was originally Cadnetix) packages being offered by Mentor. Is the Expedition one that you are talking about the entry level one for about $10K. JaMi * * * * * * - Original Message - From: Robert M. Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [PEDA] Re[2]: Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer!!!!

2002-08-02 Thread JaMi Smith
- Original Message - From: Michael Reagan (EDSI) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Re[2]: Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer I don't think any of us can complain that Protel went

Re: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer! !!!

2002-08-02 Thread JaMi Smith
- Original Message - From: Robert M. Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer! !!! JaMi, I have not priced anything very recently there but,

[PEDA] It's Here!

2002-08-12 Thread JaMi Smith
Protel EDA Fourm List and DXP Forum List (posted seperately), I just had my brand new copy of Protel DXP (the official name on the box) delivered to my door via DHL Worldwide Express, so I guess that it has now been officially released to ATS customers. I cannot install it yet, since they said

Re: [PEDA] Speaking of Protel Bugs. - Flame start!

2002-08-13 Thread JaMi Smith
. - Flame start! On 11:24 PM 31/07/2002 -0700, JaMi Smith said: - Original Message - From: Tony Karavidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Speaking of Protel Bugs. As others have told you

[PEDA] Fw: Protel 99SE license

2002-08-26 Thread JaMi Smith
message. * * * * * * * * * * - Original Message - From: JaMi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: JaMi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel 99SE license Lloyd, Considering the reception (or lack thereof) of DXP

Re: [PEDA] Fw: Protel 99SE license

2002-08-27 Thread JaMi Smith
-- -- - - - - - - -- -- -- - - - -- - -- -- - -- -- - - - - -- - -- - - - -- - Original Message - From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Fw: Protel 99SE license At 01:41 PM 8/26/2002 -0700, JaMi

Re: [PEDA] Fw: Protel 99SE license

2002-08-27 Thread JaMi Smith
, and that anyone who wants to contact him direct may do so at lgood@shaw,ca . He is sorry for the inconveinence. JaMi -- -- - - - - - - -- -- -- - - - -- - -- -- - -- -- - - - - -- - -- - - - -- - Original Message - From: JaMi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL

[PEDA] Bizzare and Repeatable

2002-08-30 Thread JaMi Smith
? JaMi Smith * Tracking #: 29CC7BD7851D104488AE3D01B9582808B9CB80B2 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message

[PEDA] Service Pack 7 - or free DXP

2002-08-30 Thread JaMi Smith
there will be no ATS) until such a time as the DXP Product has achieved a stable platform. I submit that it is time to make a list and submit it to Altium. Respectfully Submitted, JaMi Smith * Tracking

Re: [PEDA] Will ATS kill Altium?

2002-08-30 Thread JaMi Smith
continue down your current course of customer dissatisfaction. JaMi Smith PS. I still want my SP7 too! * * * * * * * * * * - Original Message - From: Bruce Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 3:19 PM Subject: [PEDA] Will ATS kill Altium

[PEDA] Whats wrong with this picture.

2002-09-06 Thread JaMi Smith
OK . . . So I'll admit, I missed the Class on Protel 99 SE Basics . . . And I slept thru most of the Protel 99 SE 101 and 102 Classes . . . But gimmie a break . . . This one has got me baffled . . . So what are the two simplest functions that one can possibly perform in Protel 99 SE? I mean

Re: [PEDA] Whats wrong with this picture.

2002-09-06 Thread JaMi Smith
Thanks Dwight, See below: - Original Message - From: Dwight [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Whats wrong with this picture. snip However, I didn't notice any significant speed difference in my

Re: [PEDA] Whats wrong with this picture.

2002-09-06 Thread JaMi Smith
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Whats wrong with this picture. I bet you used your mouse : ^ ) Actually yes, and I did notice the smiley there, but just to eliminate

Re: [PEDA] KLUNK! - Whats wrong with this picture.

2002-09-06 Thread JaMi Smith
Dennis and the group, I apologize for my sporadic responses, but I am having trouble with my email provider, SBCGLOBAL.NET, and they are only giving me about half of my email. I am sure the rest is just stuck on some server in Podunk Arkansas, and will show up sometime tomorrow. Please see

Re: [PEDA] KLUNK! - Whats wrong with this picture.

2002-09-06 Thread JaMi Smith
wrong with this picture. On 03:00 PM 6/09/2002 -0700, JaMi Smith said: Can we also add this to the Official Protel 99 SE BUG list on Yahoo! ? You write it out in a suitable fashion and it can be added. Thanks, I will, but it may take me a little time, as I am currently lost in space on a project

Re: [PEDA] KLUNK! - Whats wrong with this picture.

2002-09-06 Thread JaMi Smith
Thanks Tony, JaMi - Original Message - From: Tony Karavidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] KLUNK! - Whats wrong with this picture. It does not occur in DXP.

Re: [PEDA] KLUNK! - Whats wrong with this picture.

2002-09-06 Thread JaMi Smith
Thanks Dennis, I did not know that. I usually have had to do a recover after a crash from the backup or the previous backup in the same directory as the original .ddb file, and in fact I have had to do that at least twice in the last week with this board, which is probably why I am in paranoid

Re: [PEDA] KLUNK! - Whats wrong with this picture.

2002-09-07 Thread JaMi Smith
are allowed to test drive it for ourselves. The bottom line is this: No one can insist that any software application is stable when it exhibits such a fundamental programming error as KLUNK! for such a long period of time. Respectfully submitted, JaMi Smith

[PEDA] Altium - Have your cake and eat it too!

2002-09-07 Thread JaMi Smith
product that it appears to have the potential to become. Yes Altium, I would suggest that you keep Protel 99 SE as a product, and DXP too! Yes Altium, you actually can have your cake and eat it too! Respectfully submitted JaMi Smith

Re: [PEDA] KLUNK! - Whats wrong with this picture.

2002-09-07 Thread JaMi Smith
Joe, Please see below, Thanks, JaMi - Original Message - From: Joe Sapienza [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 3:38 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] KLUNK! - Whats wrong with this picture. Jami, This problem only manifests itself

Re: [PEDA] KLUNK! - Whats wrong with this picture.

2002-09-07 Thread JaMi Smith
- Original Message - From: Tony Karavidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] KLUNK! - Whats wrong with this picture. Did P98 KLUNK! back in 1998 on Win98? Maybe a service pack to windows, or win2k

Re: [PEDA] Altium - Have your cake and eat it too!

2002-09-07 Thread JaMi Smith
Dennis, Please see below, JaMi - Original Message - From: Dennis Saputelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Altium - Have your cake and eat it too! well this sounds like a pitch for SP7 among

Re: [PEDA] Straw Poll - 99SE crash stats my SFR = 0.0266

2002-09-07 Thread JaMi Smith
1 seat 173.3 regular hours a month - lately much much more. 2 to 6 (call it 4) per WEEK of real reboot the system type crashes. That is about 17.3 per month, or 0.1 per hour. 2 to 6 (call it 4) per DAY of minor crashes were Protel does something weird or refuses

Re: [PEDA] Whats wrong with this picture.

2002-09-08 Thread JaMi Smith
Igor, It does NOT go KLUNK! when you exit Protel 99 SE from the Exit selection of the File menu pulldown? Is your sound turned on? What type of machine and what OS are you using? Thanks, JaMi - Original Message - From: Igor Gmitrovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] Cease the spam

2002-09-08 Thread JaMi Smith
Igor and the group, I have been getting the same Cease the Spam messages in response to my posts also, and this has been happening since to me ever since Friday at about 6 PM Pacific Coast Time. It only happens when I post to this forum, and then only after the post is redistributed to the

Re: [PEDA] Cease the spam

2002-09-08 Thread JaMi Smith
Tony, I have checked out the Kollmorgen web site, and it is a defense manufacturer on the east coast, and it looks like they could actually have someone in their MA office that actually uses Protel, and hence is a member of the forum. While even that can be spoofed, I have compared the Message

Re: [PEDA] Cease the spam

2002-09-08 Thread JaMi Smith
Tom, Then that means you must be the spammer! Just kidding, just kidding :: ) JaMi PS. Do you know what this is === ::) It's a smiley wearing his glasses . . . - Original Message - From: Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September

Re: [PEDA] off topic supply SOS

2002-09-08 Thread JaMi Smith
Brian, What are you looking for? Tantalems? Ceramics? What is the frequency you are having problems with? Can you piggy back different values such as a 0.1uF and 100pF ceramic? JaMi - Original Message - From: Brian Guralnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PEDA] Cease the spam

2002-09-08 Thread JaMi Smith
Bingo! I think you hit the nail on the head Terry! I tried to search my archive here on Friday night, but I only go back to 9/13/01 on this machine here at home, and I came up with a blank (didn't go back far enough). Thanks! I fired off a couple of test messages to that email address just

Re: [PEDA] Whats wrong with this picture.

2002-09-08 Thread JaMi Smith
Igor, OK, well it just keeps getting more and more bizarre! But what can you expect with Protel. You are the first person to respond that has said that KLUNK! does not actually go KLUNK! on your machine. I wonder what makes your system different from all of the others that have responded? Is

Re: [PEDA] Cease the spam

2002-09-09 Thread JaMi Smith
Still waiting for the apology to show up here in the forum though. It will go much better for whoever it is if they apologize here first. Problem is that they are probably not monitoring here any more, but then again I haven't seen any unsubscribe postings either. And if they areno longer

Re: [PEDA] Whats wrong with this picture.

2002-09-09 Thread JaMi Smith
Igor, Thanks. Still kind of curious as to what the difference is in your installation as opposed to all of the others that have reported it on their systems. Well, now that it is Monday in some parts of the world, we may get a few more responses to the KLUNK! posts, and find a few more people

Re: [PEDA] BGA Footprint question.

2002-09-09 Thread JaMi Smith
Brian, The short version of the answer is neither, the land pattern is the pad, and hence it is 0.27mm. Where in the spec did you get the 0.27mm number? I looked at pages 59 and 60 of the spec and saw that the 90 ball beast actually wants a 0.33mm pad diameter according to Note 2 on page 60.

[PEDA] So sue me ...(was:Crunch time?)

2002-09-09 Thread JaMi Smith
- Original Message - From: Tony Karavidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP - Crunch time? Snip . . . What, are you going to sue them? Read the EULA. Read any EULA. boards.

Re: [PEDA] on topic supply SOS

2002-09-09 Thread JaMi Smith
Ok, time for a different tact . . . Are you running any of your clock lines (etc.) over any gaps in the planes directly underneath them? Such as in the case of a split plane? If so, you are probably infecting' the entire involved planes and specifically the supplies on them, completely back to

Re: [PEDA] So sue me ...(was:Crunch time?)

2002-09-10 Thread JaMi Smith
Tony See below, JaMi - Original Message - From: Tony Karavidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] So sue me ...(was:Crunch time?) ...and while many of those bugs were in fact addressed and fixed,

Re: [PEDA] So sue me ...(was:Crunch time?)

2002-09-10 Thread JaMi Smith
Tony, See below, JaMi - Original Message - From: Tony Karavidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 2:48 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] So sue me ...(was:Crunch time?) ~ ~ ~ === I'm getting tired or writing snip ::) Well

Re: [PEDA] SP7 and beyond

2002-09-10 Thread JaMi Smith
Excellent! Excellent! So simple, yet so elegantly stated! JaMi - Original Message - From: Fabian Hartery [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:14 AM Subject: [PEDA] SP7 and beyond ~ ~ ~ Like many others, I will support ATS if

Re: [PEDA] So sue me ...(was:Crunch time?)

2002-09-10 Thread JaMi Smith
Ian See below, JaMi - Original Message - From: Ian Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 3:51 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] So sue me ...(was:Crunch time?) On 02:48 AM 10/09/2002 -0700, Tony Karavidas said: Hi Jami, ..snip..

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