Re: [Wikimediaau-l] English Teachers' Association presentation
I don't speak for WM-Au but I suppose it would be good if those who went to speak at schools were: a) paid-up members of the chapter (which reminds me - I must actually send my money...) b) had proof of criminal records check by whichever means is appropriate e.g. official school visitation number c) were on a list held at the chapter-wiki of recognised representatives of the chapter (how recognised is defined I will not presume to determine by myself) So, I suggest that those who are interested in doing school visits attempt to get formal permission for all the state's schools for WM- Au through whatever mechanism is relevant to that state's education dept. The permission should be for WM-Au first and the individual as a representative of that organisation - not the other way around. Keep our ABN/consumer affairs rego. number handy for this purpose. WM-Au should then keep a list of those people who are approved, the State and city in which they live, and their particular skills/ qualifications. I will continue to try to contact the NSW department of Education and Training (DET) on the above basis and report back any progress. -Liam p.s. On another point, we should be thinking of putting together educational resources to give to teachers when we/if we do speak to them. For example - the cheat sheet for media-wiki editing, some important press about WM (such as the famous Nature study), and some examples of correct Wikipedia citation/usage. On 01/12/2008, at 10:19 PM, Craig Franklin wrote: Does this mean I should contact Education Queensland and offer my services as a speaker? I'd rather not lecture to children, but maybe talking to some teachers might help clear up some of the misunderstandings about the project that seem to be endemic in EQ. Or would I need to be accredited by WM-au before I could count as a volunteer guest? --- Craig Franklin PO Box 1093 Toombul, Q, 4012 Australia http://www.halo-17.net - Australia's Favourite Source of Indie Music, Art, and Culture. - Original Message - From: Zero [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Wikimedia-au wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 5:43 PM Subject: [personal] Re: [Wikimediaau-l] English Teachers' Association presentation Just answering my own question of 10 minutes ago, I found an FAQ for who needs a blue card in QLD, and it affirmed my guess. We're exempt if it's for guest speaking. http://www.ccypcg.qld.gov.au/employment/bluecard/faqs/ faqs_guest_speakers_volunteer.html Specifically, you don't need a card If you are a volunteer guest of a school or registered charity, incorporated association or corporation for 10 days or less on no more than two occasions per year for the purpose of observing or supplying information or entertainment to 10 or more people, who is unlikely to be physically present with a child while no other adult is present As I presumed before, a blue card's not required. There are probably slight variations according to each state, but I bet that it's the same general idea. For something further, like a workshop for how to use wikis, would probably require a card though. I don't know about the approved visitor list from the department, but that means we could personally have two lists, depending on what we wish to do. People who can do volunteer speaking, and those who can do works in actual classes. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Zero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you mean it's not required for WMA purposes, though? Do you mean that the check probably isn't needed because this is just guest speaking? It's not like we're undertaking employment or interacting with children on a regular basis, so that makes sense. -- Always here, Zero ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Australian stats, soon to be CC
I wrote a little note in their feedback form the other day to say that I/we had noticed the announcement and were looking forward to it. I gave a link to this mailing list thread. Hopefully someone at the ABS who is net-savvy will read that piece of feedback and reply to us - it does say that all feedback will be responded to in a working week. My comment did not require a response but I thought it good to give them some positive response to their (fairly subtle) announcement. I imagine that this decision has not come easily nor without some controversy within the bureaucracy - so if they get positive feedback it might help to justify their decision to upper-management (who, perhaps, are not completely convinced this is a good plan). -Liam On 06/12/2008, at 1:49 AM, Karl Goetz wrote: On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 20:33:34 +1100 Nathan Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (top posting to avoid breaking reverse flow) they may have someone in sydney. At the very least, I think it would be a nice gesture to them. kk That's a nice idea. I think the ABS is based out of canberra though. 2008/12/5 Gnangarra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Would it be of value for WM-au to invite a representative from the ABS to speak at a Sydney Wiki wednesday on the the change to CC? It would providing ABS a means of delivering the message to a wider audience that's interested such things as well as being a way for them to get some feed back on doing it. -- Karl Goetz, (Kamping_Kaiser / VK5FOSS) Debian user / gNewSense contributor http://www.kgoetz.id.au No, I won't join your social networking group ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] IRC meeting Sunday, 3pm?
well, I'll be there. -liam On 07/12/2008, at 1:17 PM, Sarah Ewart wrote: Hi guys, unfortunately I think I might need to send apologies for this meeting as well. I have an appointment at 2pm and I don't think I will be back in time. I will pop into the channel if I do get home in time, even if it's a bit late, but otherwise I send my apologies. Cheers all, Sarah On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Nathan Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, I'll have to put my apologies in for this one. I won't be near a computer. Cheers, Nathan On 12/5/08, Brianna Laugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, We probably won't be having a ctte meeting this weekend, but how about a general meeting? 3pm, Sunday, #wikimedia-au ? cheers Brianna -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/ -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: Upcoming OLPC events in Australia and New Zealand
I just got this from the OneLaptopPerChild-Australia mailing list - thought I'd pass it on. [sorry for all those that are on both lists already]. This is a very low usage list so I encourage you to join if you're interested in keeping up with OLPC activities in our backyard. Best, -Liam [[user:witty lama]] -- Forwarded message -- From: Pia Waugh gre...@olpcfriends.org Date: Dec 15, 2008 2:40 PM Subject: Upcoming OLPC events in Australia and New Zealand To: olpcfriends-annou...@lists.olpcfriends.org Hi all, There are several upcoming OLPC events in Australia and New Zealand which you can get involved in to help bring OLPC to children in the region and all around the world! Check out the OLPC Friends events page for all details ( http://olpcfriends.org/events). December OLPC Testing Parties (Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide) OLPC Friends will be running OLPC Test Parties in Sydney, Melbourne Adelaide next Saturday, the 20th December. The aim of these events is to help test new activities for the OLPC as well as the new 8.2.1 image. If you want to help contribute to OLPC, this is a great way to get involved! If you don't have your own XO, some extras will be brought along by the coordinators. Coordinators are: - Sydney http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Friends/SydneyUG - Pia Waugh gre...@pipka.org - Melbourne http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Friends/MelbourneXOClub - Donna Benjamin do...@cc.com.au - Adelaide - Joel Stanley joel.s...@gmail.com OLPC activities at linux.conf.au 2009 (Hobart, Tasmania) There will also be several OLPC related events at linux.conf.au this year, including a talk from Sugar guru and former President of OLPC, Walter Bender, a Birds of a Feather (BoF) session, and an OLPC stand at the linux.conf.au Open Day. The talks and BoF are limited to linux.conf.auattendees however the Open Day is open to the public, so come along! Deployments There are deployments happening all across the region, and you can volunteer to help out with a deployment ( http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Friends/volunteers). If you want to do your own deployment, get in touch as OLPC Friends will be kicking off a deployment group in January to help share knowledge and ensure some consistency in the region. Regular events There are regular user group events throughout Australia and New Zealand, including weekly test parties in Wellington, which has contributed significantly to OLPC. Great work guys! Also, there are monthly events kicking off around Australia in the new year. Participation If you are interested in discussions around OLPC or getting help, please join the OLPC Friends discussion mailing list ( http://lists.olpcfriends.org/mailman/listinfo/olpcfriends), and the OLPC Friends community forum (http://forums.olpcfriends.org/). Cheers, Pia Waugh About OLPC Friends OLPC Friends http://olpcfriends.org/ brings together educators, developers and enthusiasts for local and regional deployments and education development. Working in collaboration with the OLPC Foundationhttp://laptop.org/, OLPC Friends aims to create an organic and sustainable ecosystem of contributing people and organisations throughout Australia, New Zealand and the Pacific. More details at http://olpcfriends.org/ -- olpcfriends-announce mailing list olpcfriends-annou...@lists.olpcfriends.org http://lists.olpcfriends.org/mailman/listinfo/olpcfriends-announce -- Email - liamwy...@gmail.com Phone - +61 (0)434 056 914 Skype - Wittylama Wikipedia - [[User:Witty lama]] ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Poster sales
In fact we just discussed this at some length on the recording of the next edition of WikipediaWeekly. I would think that the donation should go to the chapter of the country in which the printer is based. Therefore, like we do with the book reference page and the geo- location page, the poster printing page IMO should be a list of available printers organised by country. This means there shouldn't be a different setup/landing page for each country but rather there should be a whole raft of printers that you can chose from. -Liam On 20/12/2008, at 15:15, Charles Gregory wikimediaau.li...@chuq.net wrote: I think it would be difficult to approve... why us, and not UK, or any other english speaking chapter that may form in the future (NZ, USA, etc)? - Charles On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Charles Gregory c...@chuq.net wrote: I think it would be difficult to approve... why us, and not UK, or any other english speaking chapter that may form in the future (NZ, USA, etc)? - Charles 2008/12/20 Gnangarra gnanga...@gmail.com Thats is interesting, My issue is that the donation goes to a chapter rather than the Foundation, so is there potential for us as a chapter to do this on en? 2008/12/20 Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com I suggest you have a look at Brianna's blog on this... http://brianna.modernthings.org/article/178/innovation-and-commerce-on-the-french-wikipedia-wikiposters -Liam On 20/12/2008, at 12:29 PM, Gnangarra wrote: Of interest http://www.wikiposter.fr/wikipedia.aspx this link through fr.wikipedia, is it something we could or want to look into? -- GN. http://gnangarra.redbubble.com/ ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- GN. http://gnangarra.redbubble.com/ ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikipedia Loves Art! photo contest at the Powerhouse Museum
Pharos, As I have said to you when you wrote to me privately; said again when you cc'd others, and will say again now on-list: a) The intended project with the Powerhouse Museum will be at approximately the same time as the loves art project; b) It encompasses and goes far beyond the scope of the loves art project c) It gains access to professional photography from their side (not just ourselves) d) It is supported by many at the museum but still requires official approval, therefore active discussion and explanation of what WM-Au is all about is ongoing. As such, we are attempting to participate in loves art through the powerhouse in all but name. The aim of both projects is to improve the content on Wikimedia projects and we are all working towards that end in our own ways. -Liam, user:witty lama On 1/5/09, Pharos pharosofalexand...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, It has come to my attention that Liam and you folks have decided not to pursue this project. I think this would be a mistake. So, I thought I would write you folks and everyone at Wikimedia AU this e-mail so we can start a broader conversation. I understand you folks were interested in doing another project with Powerhouse, which is great, but I don't see why that would preclude joining us in this project as well. The important thing to understand is that this is a pre-wrapped project, where the model has already been developed and accepted by several different museums around the world, and getting it going in Sydney would require minimal work on your part. Since this is a project that has some establishment cred with the other museums, it could even be a great way to get your foot in the door for future, and hopefully more ambitious, activities. I know Liam expressed concern about having to schedule something for a particular day. It should be clear that this event is not on one day; it's run during the whole month of February, but the museums can choose to have a public event on any particular day they might like. You should know that we currently have four museums that are part of this project, in New York City, London, Los Angeles and Indianapolis, and we're working on Wikimedian teams in each. On the chapters front, in addition to Wikimedia New York City (which if we're lucky might become official by event time), we're also working closely with Wikimedia UK, and their Secretary Andrew Turvey. Jay Walsh has commented to me that this is really the first inter-chapter project of this type, and I hope that Wikimedia AU can reconsider and join our little effort. As I understand it, they're maybe on the fence now at Powerhouse with WLA, and a simple word from you folks could push them into positive territory. Thanks for your consideration, Pharos 2008/11/9 Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com: Regarding powerhouse museum: I think they are the best place to start if we try and do this kind of thing (which I think would be great) because the PHM gets web 2.0 - they don't necessarily succeed at it (vis - their attempt at QR codes described here: http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/dmsblog/index.php/2008/10/23/some-qr-code-clarifications/ ) but they are involved more than any other institution in australia that I know of. Thank their web services manager Seb Chan for that - which is why I would really like him to come to Wiki-Wednesday. He has been involved peripherally with the Dictionary of Sydney too which is where I first met him. I have a feeling I've said this before but I can't remember so I'll say it anyway (apologies if I repeat myself). I would think that the PHM would be a good place to start if we wanted to try a backstage tour for WM-au. That is, they show us around somewhere normally not accessible and we, in return, spend time with them improving articles of their choice (and teaching them how to do it themselves too). I think that if this is successful with the PHM we should approach the National Trust... my 2cents. Regarding sister chapters. Honestly, the first I heard of this was talking with Pharos. I think it's great that chapters are friendly to each other and share ideas etc. but I'm yet to see what kind of special relationship could be made. We're hard pressed (so far) to put into effect plans for ourselves - so doing anything special for other chapters will be even more difficult. We should, of course, endeavour to help when asked but I don't know what kind of special arrangement we could possibly put in place in relation to another chapter. I'm yet to be convinced about the concept of a sister chapter outside of close neighbouring countries (e.g. Norway/Sweden, Belguim/Netherlands) where they can meetup easily... With peace and love and wiki-ness, -Liam On 09/11/2008, at 5:52 PM, private musings wrote: ...or to put it another way - thanks heaps for letting us know about this endeavor, pharos
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] AGM Election nominations closed
I can't speak for Gideon, but I would like to be considered for the ordinary member position in the event that he should get the nod. However, this was not written on my nomination submission so I wouldn't expect to be retroactively given a new nomination approval... - Liam On 1/5/09, Mark Hurd markeh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Brianna Laugher brianna.laug...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Nominations closed yesterday and these are the received nominations: President Brianna Laugher Vice President Liam Wyatt Vice President Gideon Digby Treasurer Brian Salter-Duke Secretary Sarah Ewart Ordinary Member John Vandenberg Ordinary Member Nathan Carter Ordinary Member Andrew Owens Candidate statements and nomination information is available at http://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/2008-2009_AGM. This means we will hold a ballot for the position of Vice President (1) and Ordinary Member (2). We anticipate using memberdb to allow voting prior to the AGM. Using memberdb you can change your vote during the voting period (you get an email record sent to you). This should allow more members to participate than if we require in-person attendance. The voting period will likely be from Tuesday up to the AGM. I will write to the members list to announce when voting opens. thanks, Brianna Should the VP candidates be included in the Ordinary Member election too (if they want to) so the failing VP candidate may still be a committee member if they get enough votes to be an Ordinary Member? (Probably not for this election.) -- Mark Hurd, B.Sc.(Ma.)(Hons.) ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- Email - liamwy...@gmail.com Phone - +61 (0)434 056 914 Skype - Wittylama Wikipedia - [[User:Witty lama]] ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] AGM Election nominations closed
yes Craig: Sounds fair. On 1/5/09, Craig Franklin cr...@halo-17.net wrote: Should the VP candidates be included in the Ordinary Member election too (if they want to) so the failing VP candidate may still be a committee member if they get enough votes to be an Ordinary Member? (Probably not for this election.) -- Mark Hurd, B.Sc.(Ma.)(Hons.) I'd say that section 23(2) of the rules probably rules this out, namely A candidate may only be nominated for one office, or as an ordinary member of the committee, prior to the annual general meeting. Also, I feel it would be a bit odd now that nominations have closed to change the way the election will be conducted. Cheers, Craig --- Craig Franklin PO Box 1093 Toombul, Q, 4012 Australia http://www.halo-17.net - Australia's Favourite Source of Indie Music, Art, and Culture. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- Email - liamwy...@gmail.com Phone - +61 (0)434 056 914 Skype - Wittylama Wikipedia - [[User:Witty lama]] ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Video from Sydney AGM
I'd like to thank the academy... On 1/12/09, private musings thepmacco...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, please see below for a snippet of high drama from the Sydney meetup of yesterday's AGM - not sure if this sort of thing is worthy of official wiki inclusion, but may transfer it to OGG in due course anywhoo... it's just a bit of fun really - with Liam practicing his politican's pose under the glare of two cameras! cheers, Peter, PM. -- Forwarded message -- From: Vimeo no-re...@vimeo.com Date: Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:23 AM Subject: Your video is now online on Vimeo! To: thepmacco...@gmail.com You can watch it here: http://vimeo.com/2795784 http://vimeo.com/2795784/l:transcoded_email [image: Wikimedia AU 1st AGM - President and VP announcement]http://vimeo.com/2795784?pg=transcoded_embedsec=2795784 *Wikimedia AU 1st AGM - President and VP announcement* http://vimeo.com/2795784http://vimeo.com/2795784?pg=transcoded_embedsec=2795784 High drama in Sydney, as 6 pioneering members of the Wikimedia Australia Chapter wait with baited breath to hear the results of the inaugural elections to the governing committee. Involves privatemusings http://vimeo.com/user464002. Forward this email to your friends and family so that they can see it, too. Don't want these alerts anymore? http://vimeo.com/settings/notifications LOVE, [image: vimeo] ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- Email - liamwy...@gmail.com Phone - +61 (0)434 056 914 Skype - Wittylama Wikipedia - [[User:Witty lama]] ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Backstage Pass event in Sydney
How can we attract people who don't usually come to meetups? I expect embarrassingly few will turn up if we can't do this. Yes, my concern too. Thoughts on how to increase turn-out: == Tell them == * We spam everyone in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedians_in_Sydney , all ~231 of them, via their talk page, notifying them about this event for Wikipedians in Sydney, This I what I was expecting we would do - once the Membership of WM- AU have had a chance to settle on a date. * Put it on the Australian Wikipedian's noticeboard. Yep. Even if they can't come because it's full or they're not in the city, it makes them more aware of WM-AU as a real entity and encourages them to join up in the future. So, it needn't be a we need more people notice, but more of a what your chapter is doing for you, FYI. == Outreach to related communities == I really don't think we'll need to go beyond our immediate contacts for this one. 20 people will fill up faster that you expect I believe. == Maybe add a sweetener? == I'm pretty sure there's enough sweetener in this already! :-) WM-AU doesn't have any merch of its own as yet... But did I mention that Powerhouse wants to put their marketing people on to this and try to get this event mentioned in the papers/radio the next day...? Sweet enough yet? == Exclusivity == This, I expect will be a major drawcard factor, and something that is implicit in the name of the event. Let's assume we do the above, and that gets us 7 more people. == Overbooking == Hmm... not sure, I don't want to second guess a system that has never been tested yet. So basically even if we do all of the above, we'll probably get about 7 +7+6+7-7 = 20 people. That's my guess anyway. -- All the best, Nick. In conclusion - I think we'll get our 20 quick-smart. The trick is not so much finding 20 people who are willing to get access to Powerhouse for free, but more a question of finding 20 people who will repay the Powerhouse's generosity with some effort on WP. Remember - this is not just a free-ride, we have to put back too... *This will be the trick to making this successful and getting the Powerhouse to recommend us to other institutions in the future.* This is our job interview. -Liam [[user:witty lama]] ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Backstage Pass event in Sydney
Yes. And, I really don't think we'll have too much trouble filling 20 spots for this event. So, the roll-out plan seems to be (correct me if I'm wrong): 1) People who are WM-AU members sign up to the list on WM-AU wiki noting their preferred dates. I've already added a couple of other names that have expressed interest to me personally. 2) We fix a date, in collaboration with the Powerhouse who of course have to book up their staff. At this point we move the information and signup page over from WM-AU to Wikipedia. 3) Depending on the number of available spots left we: headhunt specific Sydney Wikipedians on the Sydney-WIkipedian's category (a ask your friends approach); We spam on the talkpages of those listed in the sydney-wikipedian's category; We advertise in the Wikiproject Australia noticeboard (and/or similar). This *should* hit the right note of exclusivity (without being exclusionary) and publication. With the follow-up events that Powerhouse wish to run - out to their storage facility - their is less of a constraint so the publicity from the first should hopefully spill over to getting broader attendance at the second. On another note, if someone is interested and good at illustrations (I'm not!) would they like to make the backstage pass programme logo? Mind - this is not for the powerhouse event, but for the whole concept and could be used for any subsequent event. I was thinking something based on this image: * *http://tinyurl.com/9y2jre* *All the best, -Liam [[user:witty lama]] On 1/14/09, Lloyd Nguyen zero1...@gmail.com wrote: If you're talking about what I think you're talking about, I believe that the mixed reaction came when an additional round of notifications on their talk page was done indiscriminately, on their own volition. Before that, there was a round of personal emails to people who were personally supporting WM-AU, and/or were active, and there weren't any problems. So I think as long as we know what'd going on with doing the contacting, there shouldn't be a problem. -- Email - liamwy...@gmail.com Phone - +61 (0)434 056 914 Skype - Wittylama Wikipedia - [[User:Witty lama]] ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] News article - Many minds make Wiki work
Nice article, hits all the right buttons. Perhaps we could contact mandy - the author - to meet up with Wm-Au? On 16/01/2009, at 10:20, Brianna Laugher brianna.laug...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was happily surprised to spot this article in the Age's Green Guide yesterday. http://www.theage.com.au/news/entertainment/tv--radio/many-minds-make-wiki-work/2009/01/14/1231608762605.html cheers Brianna -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/ ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Commons on Picture Australia
Dear All, [cross post to commons-l and wikimediaaustralia-l] Picture Australia is interested in adding Commons photos to their service but has several technical issues they would like to resolve first. Can we help? Picture Australia is an archive aggregation service run by the National Library of Australia and aggregates searches across many Australian institutions (such as the various state libraries, universities, government departments) and also Flickr. You can see the project at http://www.pictureaustralia.org/index.html and you can see their other contributors at http://www.pictureaustralia.org/contribute/participants/index.html This is a quote from the email written to me from PA: At the moment our main source of contemporary images is Flickr and we are interested in investigating other sources of contemporary images. There are a few issues with the Wikimedia Commons that we foresee: 1- the metadata quality is highly variable. With Flickr contributors are able to provide a fair bit of additional metadata about their images. Before pulling images in from Wikipedia we'd need the data to adhere to some basic standards. (see http://www.pictureaustralia.org/contribute/metadata.html). 2- there are certainly a number of images that have been sourced from Picture Australia or our contributors. Pulling these in would create an issue with duplicate images and would likely confuse users if they were attempting to buy a copy. 3- Wikipedia doesn't have an OAI interface so we would need to look at how to ingest the data. I would add a 4th concern, and I'm not sure if this is a big problem or easily fixed, is that most of the pictures on Commons are not relevant to PA. Would we be able to provide a feed of only the relevant categories? All the best, - Liam Wyatt -- Email - liamwy...@gmail.com Phone - +61 (0)434 056 914 Skype - Wittylama Wikipedia - [[User:Witty lama]] ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Update on Powerhouse Museum 'Backstage Pass'
Briefly, This is still on the boil but they're still having internal discussions at the powerhouse. The proposed date now is the first Friday of march- the 5th (from memory). So, keep adding people to the list on WM-au-officialwiki and once we have a firm date and an official greenlight we'll publicise. I think, contrary to what I said previously, we'll leave the organisation at officialwiki so as to make absolutely sure that those who sign up will be coming. This means non-members of WM-au will have to get a member to sign them up rather than just people signing up willynilly. The reason for this is of course that there is a strict size limit. So, when I know more, I'll tell you ASAP. Best, -Liam [[witty lama]] On 06/02/2009, at 18:58, private musings thepmacco...@gmail.com wrote: by which I mean I think one would be good! - or 'let's try and keep some momentum on that' :-) http://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Backstage_pass I reckon it's probably time to start rattling a few cages here and there - I certainly have a couple of folk in mind to see if they might want to attend - otherwise, perhaps we need to sort of pencil in some timescales for decision making etc. - hopefully it's happening in the next few weeks, so if you're interested in attending this rather cool event in Sydney, please do reply to this email, edit the wiki page linked above (if you can) - or otherwise by hook or crook get in touch :-) cheers, Peter PM. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Pd-Australia
Oh I hate this stuff According to the reading by the Copyright Council of Australia (who are the most conservative in these matters) the rules are that the image is PD if the photographer *died* before 1955 - not whether the photograph was *published* before 1955. So, in the case of Anon photographers this gets even trickier. http://www.copyright.org.au/information/introduction/intro-5.htm I don't know if we want to take their advice, but on that reading it is *likely* that a 1946 photographer probably lived 'till 1955 and therefore the image is *likely* still copyrighted. However, this is NOT the practice on WP to-date and it is not an uncontested reading. -Liam On 2/10/09, YellowMonkey blnguyen2...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone who understands PD-Australia look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Donald_Bradman_with_the_Australian_cricket_team_in_England_in_1948 please The 1955 rule seems to being challenged again ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- Email - liamwy...@gmail.com Phone - +61 (0)434 056 914 Skype - Wittylama Wikipedia - [[User:Witty lama]] ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Chapters meeting
we've said that we're requesting a spot for the Prez, and that in the event that there is funding and all the stars align then we'd like to send the Vice Prez too. There is discussion about whether 1 or 2 people from the various chapters will be going but I think it unlikely given the costs - especially for WM-Au. We've not discussed fundraising or the allocation of funds to this as yet. -Liam On 2/11/09, private musings thepmacco...@gmail.com wrote: coolio! - I'd missed the detail in the minutes (sorry); http://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Meeting:Committee_(2009_January_15)http://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Meeting:Committee_%282009_January_15%29 - is there any call for a bit of AU fundraising at this stage? - the minutes indicate we've requested subsidy, and presumably the WMF and the German Chapter are kicking in with some financial support - is this covering enough? - Presumably those interested in bringing Wikimania to these shores are aware of how useful some 'face time' might be with various chapter types - and I wonder if we've considered sending our VP along too? (if he's available, for example?) cheers, Peter, PM. 2009/2/11 Sarah Ewart sarahew...@gmail.com 2009/2/11 private musings thepmacco...@gmail.com G'day all, I just thought I'd ask the committee (and anyone else) if they've heard anything about possible attendance at an 'all chapters' meeting in Berlin in April... in particular if fund-raising is being considered, or maybe just to check that we're 'on the radar' down here :-) Yes, it was mentioned in the minutes I posted last week. Brianna, as President, will be going to represent us and we have requested funding. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- Email - liamwy...@gmail.com Phone - +61 (0)434 056 914 Skype - Wittylama Wikipedia - [[User:Witty lama]] ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Public Records office Victoria - MediaWiki
Did anyone else know about this: http://wiki.prov.vic.gov.au/index.php/About_PROVWiki The Public Records office of Victoria (the State Government's official record repository) has a MediaWiki installation for the purposes of: [to] offer you the opportunity to contribute your knowledge of, and research into, the collections held by PROVhttp://www.access.prov.vic.gov.au/ They've pre-loaded the wiki with pages referring to each person in the 1891 Women's Suffrage Petitionhttp://wiki.prov.vic.gov.au/index.php/1891_Women%27s_Suffrage_Petitionfor example. This is really cool! Their terms and conditions seem to be saying that you can use it for personal or non-commercial purposes - boo! Pretty interesting IMO. Does anyone on this mailing list know them, do they know about Wikimedia Australia? All the best, [[witty lama]] ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] NSW Catholic Education Office
I'm definatley in for this! I live about 15 minutes drive from Revesby. Do I need to call them to sign up or will you do that? Are they expecting a formal presentation or a QA. Please email me offlist with meetup details and/or contact info. Best, -Liam On 11/03/2009, at 19:02, Confusing Manifestation confusingmanifestat...@gmail.com wrote: I've already touched base with the committee on this, but I'll spread the word a little further. Some of you may remember my attempts to contact people associated with the introduction of Wikipedia as a text for HSC English in NSW, and after some time I have received a response. A contact at the Catholic Education Office who is responsible for coordinating the English departments at 16 catholic secondary schools in southern Sydney rang me yesterday to have a chat. They were having a meeting to discuss the agenda of a number of meetings they will be having throughout the year, and one of the items they were going to consider is to discuss Wikipedia. The idea has been touted that a representative of WMAu could speak at one of these meetings, or alternatively we could put together an information package. The meetings are at Revesby, and the next one will be on March 24th at 1.30pm. I will be in Sydney that day, although getting to Revesby might be a little tricky (from Epping via public transport). So, is there anyone else who may be interested in helping out with this? I think they would particularly like someone with a bit of status either in WMAu or WP, so committee members and admins and the like would be welcome. I know that Liam has given a similar presentation before, which would certainly lighten the load for anyone interested. If no-one's available this time, I can ask about future meeting times or, like I said, we can put together something for them to look at themselves. CM ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Last chance - 'Backstage Pass' in Sydney this Friday
Well I look forward to seeing you there! Does that mean that Cary (and therefore the foundation office are aware of the event?) don't feel pressured to come along - like everything else in the wiki-verse you can't force people to be interested in something. So if it's not your cup of tea and you feel railroaded I won't hold it against you if you're not coming. It would be great if you did, of course! Just don't feel pressured to do so. best, - Liam On 12/03/2009, at 11:37, Andrew Garrett and...@werdn.us wrote: Brianna and Cary have railroaded me into coming along. I'll see you tomorrow! (bah, have to wake up before 9) 2009/3/11 Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com: Ladies and Gentlemen! This is a final call for participants at the first “Backstage Pass ” tour to be held by Wikimedia Australia in Sydney THIS FRIDAY @ 10am. Our hosts for the day are the Powerhouse Museum who now have upwards of 5 of their curators coming along to show us around. To find out more please visit: http://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Backstage_pass There are places available if you can still come along. We will be meeting on the forecourt then a personalised “access all areas” tour for a couple of hours, lunch, then editing for a couple of hours afterwards. If you are in the area and would like to come, please add your name or contact me so that we know to wait for you. And don’t forget your laptop to help out afterwards if you can. This is the first chance Wikimedians anywhere in the world have had to get privileged access to an institution and its experts. It will also be the first time that our content has been written around the one table at the same time. So it’s a bit of an experiment in two ways. The Powerhouse Museum is very interested to see how we can take their knowledge and publicise it to the world - so let’s show them what ‘Wikimedians in the real world’ can achieve. Looking forward to seeing as many people as can make it, - Liam -- Email - liamwy...@gmail.com Phone - +61 (0)434 056 914 Skype - Wittylama Wikipedia - [[User:Witty lama]] ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- Andrew Garrett ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: FW: National Library of Australia - Newspaper digitisation - articles published
Dear Wikimedia Australia list, I just received this from the National Library of Australia newspaper digisation project - they're moving out of Beta and into real project mode. All very exciting... What I find particularly cool about their interface is the way that they have permanent links to not only each page but also the specific article. Furthermore there is a wiki-like interface for people to improve the OCR'd text. For the purposes of Wikipedia this project is a real boon as 1) Everything they publish is out of copyright and 2) It gives us invaluable citation material. Previously we could write articles about old events and refer to them only in the print edition (which requires great difficulty to check references). Now we can cite the original edition of the newspaper and link directly to the article for all to see! I've worked with Rose Holley in my capacity at the Dictionary of Sydney and she (and the project) are keen for Wiki-folk to jump in and use their important service. As you can see by the title of the first research paper listed below, they're also helping improve the understanding in the academic/library sector of the values of mass-collaboration which is great. All the best, -Liam [[Witty lama]] -- *From:* Rose Holley [mailto:rhol...@nla.gov.au] *Sent:* Wednesday, 25 March 2009 3:48 PM *To:* undisclosed-recipients *Subject:* National Library of Australia - Newspaper digitisation - articles published Dear colleagues *Australian Newspapers Digitisation Program* I've recently published 2 articles which you may be interested to read: 1. Many Hands Make Light Work: Public Collaborative OCR Text Correction in Australian Historic Newspapers. ISBN 978-0-642-27694-0 *http://www.dlib.org/dlib/march09/03clips.html#HOLLEYBK*http://www.dlib.org/dlib/march09/03clips.html#HOLLEYBK(reviewed in D-Lib) *http://www.nla.gov.au/ndp/project_details/documents/ANDP_ManyHands.pdf*http://www.nla.gov.au/ndp/project_details/documents/ANDP_ManyHands.pdf(document here) 2. How good can it get? Analysing and Improving OCR accuracy in large scale historic newspaper digitisation programs.(NLA) Just published in this months D-Lib Magazine. *http://www.dlib.org/dlib/march09/holley/03holley.html*http://www.dlib.org/dlib/march09/holley/03holley.html All other project documents including feedback on the Australian Newspapers beta service are on the main webpage here: *http://www.nla.gov.au/ndp/project_details/*http://www.nla.gov.au/ndp/project_details/ We are now nearing the end of the 2 year project 'setup' and software development. The Australian Newspapers service will be officially launched this year and be managed in an ongoing operational mode with the newspapers digitisation program ongoing indefinitely. Thanks Rose Rose Holley Manager - Australian Newspaper Digitisation Program (ANDP) National Library of Australia e-mail: rhol...@nla.gov.au website: *http://www.nla.gov.au/ndp* http://www.nla.gov.au/ndp Phone: +61 2 6262 1224 -- ___ ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] smh article
What you did get quoted as saying was good (as PrivateMusings said), and it is a shame that what you just described was cut ou - especially the bit about critical evaluation. It really is unfortunate that they can make a news item about one parent who happens to stumble upon vandalism in an article about a children's book. They did note that they vandalism was removed quickly, but quite a long way down the page. I think if we get this kind of thing in the future then we should emphasise the fact of the speed at which 'bad things' are removed demonstrates the system working and shows that we are trying hard to improve. -Liam wittylama.com/blog Sent from Sydney, Nsw, Australia On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Brianna Laugher brianna.laug...@gmail.comwrote: 2009/5/24 private musings thepmacco...@gmail.com: see http://www.smh.com.au/news/home/technology/parents-warned-of-wikiporn-risk/2009/05/23/1242498976065.html Unfortunately it's not a good news one, dealing with 'Wikiporn risk' - but I think a 'well done' to brianna for sounding wise and sensible in a difficult situation is due :-) Thanks, although this is just a completely bog-standard vandalism story (with a local angle, and some unrelated internet filtering news tacked on the end). I was actually told that parents/students had been told by the school/teachers to use Wikipedia - which I was naturally surprised to hear - although this story says the opposite. And for the record I said I could *not* speak on behalf of Wikipedia, and I'm sure I would have said that readers needed to be able to critically evaluate what they are reading, not just be informed about the pitfalls. But I'll chalk those bits up to the power of the soundbite. :) Brianna -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/ ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Open website editing?
From what I recall, the reason we didn't have open editing of the Wikimedia Australia wiki is by way of providing something special to members. I am personally not against the idea of opening up the editing to non-members but AFAICR that was the issue - not a technical one. -Liam wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata Sent from Sydney, Nsw, Australia On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:36 PM, private musings thepmacco...@gmail.comwrote: found myself nodding furiously at Pengo's first post :-) @nickj - it sound to me that you have the appropriate technical know how to implement the 'open editing once you've confirmed your email' approach which this thread seems to be moving towards - would you be prepared to make the appropriate necessary technical changes, given the appropriate access? @brianna / other committee types reading - would you mind nick having said access, and making said changes? I think it'd be most helpful :-) it'd be very cool to move towards resolving this one in reasonably short order :-) cheers, Peter, PM. On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:41 PM, K. Peachey p858sn...@yahoo.com.auwrote: If spam is the main reason to have accounts, would using a CAPTCHA for non-confirmed accounts help? (is that a simple option in Mediawiki?) Otherwise I'd recommend nothing more restrictive than confirm email address to edit Peter Halasz [[User:Pengo]] I believe, although maybe wrong but its part of the core until a user is autoconfirmed. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Tour of Sydney Hospital museum
Dear Wikimedia-au list, I got this email calling for anyone who'd like to attend a tour of the Sydney Hospital - Australia's oldest. Specifically, the tour will be of the Nightingale Wing which houses the country's oldest pathology museum with human specimens from as far back as the First Fleet apparently. There is some political wrangling going on about potentially closing the museum so the heritage sector is trying to make sure there is awareness of this fascinating collection. Anyone who would like to attend this tour please follow the contact details below. Interestingly - they link to the Wikipedia article about [[Sydney hospital]]. Furthermore, the Museums Australia head office has registered to attend GLAM-WIKI glam.Wikimedia.org.au Best, Liam [[witty lama]] - Forwarded Message *From:* Paul Bentley pbent...@idx.com.au *To:* can-noti...@collectionsaustralia.net.au *Sent:* Thursday, 11 June, 2009 10:17:35 AM *Subject:* [Can-notices] Lucy Osborn-Nightingale Foundation Museum tour and talk 1 July MUSEUMS AUSTRALIA NSW BRANCH TOUR AND TALK Wednesday 1 July 2009 4pm Lucy Osborn-Nightingale Foundation Museum Nightingale Wing, Sydney Hospital Sydney Eye Hospital Macquarie Street, Sydney Curator Elinor Wrobel will lead us on a tour of the Lucy Osburn-Nightingale Museum Foundation Museum, the subject of recent media attention. Sydney Hospital is Australia's oldest institution and first hospital. The museum was set up in 1999 to preserve the heritage of Sydney Hospital and the Nightingale Wing as the birthplace of nursing in Australia. The collection consists of archives and artefacts relating to Sydney Hospital, Lucy Osborn, Florence Nightingale and other medical practitioners. Its Kanematsu Collection of Human Tissue Specimens stimulates questions about obligations for the preservation of a range of material types that sometimes fall outside the scope current legislation in cultural and scientific environments. Directions and further details: From Macquarie Street, walk past Il Porcellino, a bronze copy of the Florentine boar, through to the courtyard, then turn left. http://www.sesiahs.health.nsw.gov.au/sydhosp/historicaltours.asp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Hospital Join us afterwards for drinks at a nearby bar. RSVP The event is free, but please RSVP to the following by Monday 29 June: Paul Bentley Executive Officer Museums Australia NSW Branch Phone: 02 9387 7307 Mobile: 0416 121 347 pbent...@idx.com.au Web: www.museumsaustralia.org.au/nsw ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] 'GLAM Challenge' (editing competition) July 13-19 -- looking for a coordinator
Yeah - I don't imaging we'll be holding anyone to a particular external standard like FA or GA, but rather to intrinsic standards like most improved or most new stubs or most challenging topic that kind of thing. And yes, there is not a long lead time for this, but then again, that's not the end of the world. We've already have two major institutions offer to donate a prize for the comp - and no, it's not something from their collection :-) Best, Liam, [[witty lama]] wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Brianna Laugher brianna.laug...@gmail.com wrote: Also, I thought any longer than a week and you might have trouble holding people's attention to the task. I was originally thinking to just make it a weekend! Brianna 2009/6/16 Brianna Laugher brianna.laug...@gmail.com: 2009/6/16 YellowMonkey blnguyen2...@gmail.com: Isn't that a tad short? Nobody, eg, writes a FA that quickly (generally speaking) Well, the intention is not to do the edits and get it through FA approval in a week. As an entry to this challenge you'd generally just be submitting your edits. My thinking was that the judges will be able to see what you're trying to achieve, regardless of whether or not it does end up getting FA status. Does that make sense? cheers Brianna -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/ -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/ ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Powerhouse Museum, Steam Engines, creative commons - oh my!
As you may recall, a bunch of Wikimedians visited the Powerhouse Museum in Sydney a few months back for a Backstage Pass tour of their collection. With that tour as a significant impetus, the museums instituted (mixed) Creative Commons licensing on their entire collection databasehttp://www.powerhousemuseum.com/collection/database/! So, now that we have Creative-Commons licensing on Wikipedia - we can go ahead and copy/paste the applicable sections of text into Wikipedia as long as we link back to their collection noting that the text is not just referenced from there but actually copied from there (this is the difference between citation and attribution). Specifically, can I point you to the Powerhouse's blog for today which is all about their keynote object - the Boulton Watt steam engine. Note, that the first two links in their blogpost are to Wikipedia and the second of these is to the Wikipedia article that we wrotehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boulton_and_Watt_steam_engine_%28Powerhouse_Museum%29on the day of the Backstage Pass (and has since been a DYK on the frontpage). Everyone likes a bit of link-love! http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/collection/blog/?p=613 Can I also point you to the list of Things to do that came out of that day's tour. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Sydney/Powerhouse_Museum_2009-03-13 Have a trawl through there and see if you can find some good content that can be brought across to Wikipedia into relevant articles (or create new articles) with attribution. Note, the PHM is currently reviewing their copyright/access policy for their collections' images so these currently remain out-of-bounds. As do the sections of their collection record text labeled with the creative commons non-commercial license (the statement of significance, production notes and history notes sections). These are the real jewel in the crown of the PHM's collection records and for that reason they're listed as NC licensed - fair enough. So, it's up to us to demonstrate what a good job we have made of using the sections of text they have allowed out under CC-By-SA, to provide the argument to justify any further release. Finally, if you're the kind of person who is interested in this kind of thing then you're the kind of person who'd be interested in attending GLAM-WIKI. http://glam.wikimedia.org.au/ We'd love to see you there! The Powerhouse will be there talking about their experiences with us and with Flickr Commons and you should too :-) Best, -Liam [[witty lama]] wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wiki Wednesday time
Dear all, I must send my apologies as I will not be attending this Wiki-Wednesday. I'm currently at the Australian Historical Association conference at the university of the Sunshine Coast: http://www.usc.edu.au/University/MediaPublications/Events/EventsHidden/ConstructingThePast.htm presenting a part of my thesis - trying to get historians to recognise the value of Wikipedia's edit history as a primary source archive of contemporary society. For example, imagine how useful the Wikipedia community's talk page debates and rapidly evolving edit history of articles about events (e.g. the Virginia Tech massacre or the Muhammed Image controversy) would be to the historians of the future! I call this the endless palimpsest factor. So, as a result, I won't be at this month's Wiki-Wednesday as much as I would like to. Have a ball guys! -Liam wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 4:45 PM, private musings thepmacco...@gmail.comwrote: G'day all, I thought I'd just remind one and all that next week it's meetup time again for Sydneysiders :-) See http://www.customware.net/repository/display/WikiWednesday for more details, and if you're anywhere near the Sydney area, do try and come along - I've heard the presentations are particularly strong this time ;-) Being a 'wiki' wednesday - it's not just the encyclopedia types who attend, although we put up a reasonable showing - it's a pretty diverse crowd, friendly, and interesting to chat with. Plus there's often free pizza and beer! Hope to see you there, best, Peter, PM. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: CoI editing of a company, looking for mentor
Dear All, Mathias Schindler from the German chapter would like to know if there is anyone interested in assisting a company who would like to improve their article in WP but wants to do so whilst respecting our policies - especially Conflict of Interest. The fellow who is their contact is in Australia. The original message is below. Please contact him if you're interested in helping out. -Liam (witty lama) wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata -- Forwarded message -- From: Mathias Schindler mathias.schind...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 8:51 AM Hi Liam, do you know any Wikipedian in en.wikipedia who is familiar with both a conflict of interest scenario and a bona fide attempt from a company to edit wikipedia articles and adding actual content? I was given the contact information of a company conducting business studies. Would you know anyone willing to assist them how to contribute to Wikipedia properly, mentoring them and helping them in their first steps? The person on their side can is Australian to my knowlege or at least located in .au right now. Mathias ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] GLAM-WIKI bursaries
Dear all, GLAM-WIKI http://glam.wikimedia.org.au registrations are coming along fantastically. We are nearly fully subscribed with representatives across the Gallery, Library, Archive and Museum sector as well as many federal government departments interested in what we are doing. Clearly there is a demand for information about who we are and what we do from all over the country and throughout government. It's pretty damn exciting actually! BUT! Whilst there are over a hundred people from the GLAM community registered, there are only relatively few from the WIKI community so far. Given that this event is all about each community learning from the other this means that it's very important to give those Wikimedians who want to be able to come the opportunity to do so. To that end, and thanks to our generous sponsors (and some still to be announced - watch this space) Wikimedia Australia is announcing the offer of bursaries to attend GLAM-WIKI for Wikimedians in Australia and New Zealand.* There are a number of bursaries available and these will *cover the return airfare cost to Canberra*. If you would like to apply for this bursary write to the Wikimedia Australia committee on c...@lists.wikimedia.org.au Include in the email: - Your name, username, phone number, the city you would be flying from and the price cheapest airfare you can find. This might help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canberra_International_Airport#Airlines_and_destinations - A *brief* statement addressing these two criteria: a) Financial need, and b) how you would use and disseminate the information you gained at the event throughout the rest of the Wikimedia community. *Allocations will begin next weekend* in order to allow recipients to book their flights and make plans as soon as possible. You may still apply after this date, but it is possible that the *limited* amount set aside for these bursaries would have already been fully allocated. Therefore, if you would like to apply for this - apply early. Please do pass this information on to others who may be interested. Sincerely, Liam Wyatt, VP Wikimedia Australia, Convener of GLAM-WIKI *You do *not* need to be a member of Wikimedia Australia to apply. Elected members of the Wikimedia Australia committee are ineligible. The bursary will be given by cheque at the registration desk at the event itself. Recipients must bring a copy of their airline receipt. wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikimedia, judges and strippers
Well, I'm not sure actually what that article means! But, here's an even better link: The first article in the press about GLAM-WIKI :-D http://www.itwire.com/content/view/26683/1231/ It's not only long and positive, it's also factually correct! -Liam [[witty lama]] On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Craig Franklin cr...@halo-17.net wrote: Well, I have to admit, this is probably the most attention-grabbing subject line yet posted to this mailing list! =) *From:* wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Coates *Sent:* Monday, 3 August 2009 2:35 PM *To:* wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Subject:* [Wikimediaau-l] Wikimedia, judges and strippers In case people haven't seen it - discussion on references to Wikmedia sites by judges - including one all about strippers. http://www.dbs.id.au/blog/law/lap-dance-wikipedia.html Jessica Coates Project Manager Creative Commons Clinic Queensland University of Technology ph: 07 3138 8301 fax: 07 3138 9395 email: j2.coa...@qut.edu.au ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] IRC office hours - Strategic Planning
Um, is that 6am (australian) EST? There are too many timezones and timezone acronyms floating around What time is the next office hours in Australian timezones? -Liam On 8/11/09, Angela bees...@gmail.com wrote: The next Wikimedia Strategy office hours is tomorrow (email below). The meeting, previously only at 6am EST, was moved so that Australians and others this side of the world would be more likely to attend. So, please show up and make it worth their while staying up late. :) You can find proposals, and make your own, here: http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Call_for_Proposals#Current_submissions Angela -- Forwarded message -- From: Philippe Beaudette pbeaude...@wikimedia.org Date: Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 5:08 AM Subject: [Foundation-l] IRC office hours - Strategic Planning To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org It's that time again - Strategic Planning IRC office hours! This week's office hours will be: Wednesday from 04:00-05:00 UTC, which is: Tuesday, 9-10pm PDT Wednesday, 12am-1am EDT For more information, go to http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_Office_Hours Hope to see you there! Philippe Beaudette Facilitator, Strategic Planning Wikimedia Foundation pbeaude...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Bringing the wiki model to digitisation
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Craig Franklin cr...@halo-17.net wrote: You mean like the Australian Newspapers Digitisation Project, which was the subject of a very interesting presentation at GLAM-WIKI? http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home It's not strictly Wiki-like, but it shares many characteristics of our model and promises to be a great resource down the track. I've not had a great look at the editing module itself, but changes/corrections seem to be live onto the site. The only thing that's not clear is the licence, while the papers themselves are pretty much all public domain, I can't see anything to confirm with certainty that the digitized text has been released as such. Yes, this licensing ambiguity is intentional as a result of internal wranglings at the National Library. It's a work in progress... What I thought that Stephen was referring more to was something akin to a Wikipedia loves art but instead of taking pictures of artwork in galleries, taking pictures of books in libraries (hence the WikiSource reference) and objects/paraphernalia in Archive collections. This is indeed a possibility but I think we are a couple of years away, just yet, from being allowed into archives and libraries to do our own digitisation. There are currently a lot of policy discussions going on in these institutions about digital access and who is allowed to do what with their stuff online. The traditional policies of you have to ask permission to use our content works very well when you are thinking about physical objects and making copies/studying them but it does not translate directly to the online environment. Furthermore, there is the legitimate concern that once their content gets out that it won't be respected or would lose its attribution and curation/historical interpretation information. This is quite apart from copyright concerns and has more to do with the curator's desire to see their collection's meaning respected. As such, and given the cultural sector is only just beginning to see free-culture folks as partners (rather than as cultural pirates and vandals) I don't think we're ready to be able to make big projects of the type described - just yet at least. What I would advocate is that we try to organise meetings with the local WIkimedians and the curators/staff of specific institutions just to chat about what they hope to achieve together. This could take the form of a lunch meeting or the form of a backstage pass tour or traditional Wiki-meetup. Once the relationship has been established - THEN - start talking about projects that could be undertaken. That's my 2cents at least :-) -Liam [[witty lama]] Cheers, Craig -Original Message- From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Bain Sent: Friday, 14 August 2009 1:04 AM To: Wikimedia-au Subject: [Wikimediaau-l] Bringing the wiki model to digitisation I unfortunately couldn't get to Canberra for GLAM-Wiki, though I've been reading the material online so far and am very much looking forward to the videos. One of the major discussion points coming out of it has been the ways in which these institutions offer - and should offer - digitised material. The costs of digitisation are a key factor driving institutions' desire to charge for certain usage of digitised content. The employees in the sector engaged in digitisation are a scarce resource too, which ultimately affects what material is made available online at all. My own use of archival collections for research has recently got me thinking: why don't we bring the wiki model to digitisation? The various state public archives all have facilities for users to purchase photocopies or scans of archival material, but some (certainly the archives in Victoria, NSW and Queensland) also allow users to take their own photos of material. Users are typically limited to using such photos only for personal or academic use, with permission for commercial use able to be requested, either from the archives itself or from the government agency responsible for the records. With a bit of organisation, I think it would be possible to set up a 'DIY digitisation' project for archival material, which would aim to produce digital copies of material at a quality level good enough to use for transcription at Wikisource. This would involve: 1) Identifying shortlists of material to target for digitisation. There is a wealth of material out there that would be of high value if made available generally to researchers but is currently a low priority for in-house digitisation. 2) Seeking permission for commercial reuse. With shortlists of material identified, this could be handled in bulk, reducing the burden on individual researchers. 3) Taking the photos and transcribing at Wikisource. As far as I am aware, all the various state archives are free to use (if you don't
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Interesting Blog posts - provides an insight into the challenges that GLAM institutions might have in dealing with Commons (and other free media repositories)
Wow Craig, this is great and the work you've been doing with the QM is really important outreach and local interaction. It's one think for the Wikimedia community to say give us your photos but you actually getting out there and building a personal relationship with the institution is incredibly valuable. Thank you! I would also like to point people to another recent post (more from the Library angle) about interacting with Wikipedia: http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6703519.html There's also this personal response from the sector about the GLAM-WIKI recommendations: http://catherinestyles.com/2009/10/15/glam-wiki-recommendations/ And I know that the National Library is working on a formal/institutional-level response to the recommendations too. All in all, there is a lot of work going on in the GLAM sector to find ways of working with Wikimedia! There'll be a few announcements along these lines in the near future and I know from talking with some European colleagues that our work in Australia is being looked at as the best-practice. So, Criag, keep up the good work and please tell us if you need any specific assistance. -Liam [[Witty lama]] VP Wikimedia Australia wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Craig Franklin cr...@halo-17.net wrote: Hi All, Some interesting blog posts from David Milne, manager of Strategic Learning at the Queensland Museum. I have been working closely with David in trying to get access to some of QM’s extensive collection of public domain photographs and other media, and I think this could be a useful little primer for anyone who is thinking of jumping in and doing the same with one of their local institutions: http://manexus.ning.com/profiles/blogs/back-at-reality-ranch-social “We certainly live in interesting (and rapidly changing) times. There is a loud and significant clarion call from Commonwealth and State governments to digitise collections to enable free public access to our cultural assets. As Senator Kate Lundy stated in her address at the GLAM-Wiki conference in Canberra in August, this is the 'default position of the government’. This implies the GLAM sector adopting a spirit of openness, sharing and connectedness. Other inducements to participate in an open access, communication revolution include: the Government 2.0 Taskforce initiative, the Government Information Licensing Framework (GILF) and the need to respond, in this state, to the Queensland 2020:Ideas to Action in order to facilitate 'universal access to our arts and cultural assets’. “Back at 'Reality Ranch’ many GLAM sector institutions are contending with multiple challenges, not least of which are retaining staff during financially challenging times and maintaining traditional visiting audience numbers. Developing a policy for the use of social media (or helping to reduce your institution’s carbon footprint) may be mere peripheral points on the strategic planning radar. Other contributory forces which contribute to a state of partial inertia (in terms of the adoption of social media and digitisation strategies) lay partly with curatorial staff and the IT staff responsible for internet security. There are naturally honourable exceptions to this generalisation; this observation is far from being a slight on their good work. However, curators and IT gurus have reasons for maintaining the ‘status quo’; changing the role of curatorial expert to facilitator can be challenging for some (and anecdotally, liberating for others). Responding to public comments made after uploading digitised photographs of collections onto FLICKR or Wikimedia Commons is a tremendous form of social engagement for example, but this is thought to be time-consuming by sceptical staff. Raising the defensive internet screening barriers even higher is also an understandable response from people responsible for protecting the integrity of the data held on servers, which are subject to attack by a minority of the public with malevolent intent. “My personal view is that it is prudent to develop an understanding of the reasons why some GLAM sector institutions are not moving forward in embracing social media strategies at the pace advocates would like, and external government directives demand. There needs to be better understanding of institutional workplace culture and any arterial blockages to progress before a remedial stent is applied. Resolutions to 'clear the barricades' include the social media pioneers demonstrating to others in the GLAM sector the pathways they chose, illustrating how the views of sceptics were won over and internal incumbrances overcome. A large dollop of assertive leadership and having 'champions for the cause' in high places are essential. The benefits of engaging in opening up public access to collections and interacting with the public using various forms of social media has to be seen to outweigh
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Interesting Blog posts - provides an insight into the challenges that GLAM institutions might have in dealing with Commons (and other free media repositories)
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Craig Franklin cr...@halo-17.net wrote: Hi Liam, Thanks for those links, I hadn’t seen the blog post before. I think there’s some excellent recommendations that we should consider closely in there, including the “customized training”, (which is what I’ve been doing at QM), and developing a document to put somewhere (maybe on the chapter website) that goes over the advantages of allowing commercial use licensing on free content. On this second point there *is* some extant material on Commons and scattered about the rest of the place, but we could bring it all together and adapt it to the specific situation of Australian GLAM institutions (particularly if we can quote people like Cath on the page, if others are doing it, I hope that we can use peer pressure to get our way!). Along exactly those lines I'm about 12 hours away from making this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Witty_lama/Sandbox into [[Wikipedia:Advice for the cultural sector]]. Any assistance/feedback would be appreciated. On a related note, the Director of the Sydney Royal Botanic Gardens (Tim Entwisle) has tweeted me saying he'll look into donating these pictureshttp://talkingplants.blogspot.com/2009/10/palace-pictures-from-oaks-to-gardens.htmlin high-res to Wikimedia. He is also interested in having a backstage pass there, so we'll see how that goes. Nice thing for summer! -Liam Cheers, Craig *From:* wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Liam Wyatt *Sent:* Thursday, 29 October 2009 6:47 PM *To:* Wikimedia-au *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Interesting Blog posts - provides an insight into the challenges that GLAM institutions might have in dealing with Commons (and other free media repositories) Wow Craig, this is great and the work you've been doing with the QM is really important outreach and local interaction. It's one think for the Wikimedia community to say give us your photos but you actually getting out there and building a personal relationship with the institution is incredibly valuable. Thank you! I would also like to point people to another recent post (more from the Library angle) about interacting with Wikipedia: http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6703519.html There's also this personal response from the sector about the GLAM-WIKI recommendations: http://catherinestyles.com/2009/10/15/glam-wiki-recommendations/ And I know that the National Library is working on a formal/institutional-level response to the recommendations too. All in all, there is a lot of work going on in the GLAM sector to find ways of working with Wikimedia! There'll be a few announcements along these lines in the near future and I know from talking with some European colleagues that our work in Australia is being looked at as the best-practice. So, Criag, keep up the good work and please tell us if you need any specific assistance. -Liam [[Witty lama]] VP Wikimedia Australia wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Craig Franklin cr...@halo-17.net wrote: Hi All, Some interesting blog posts from David Milne, manager of Strategic Learning at the Queensland Museum. I have been working closely with David in trying to get access to some of QM’s extensive collection of public domain photographs and other media, and I think this could be a useful little primer for anyone who is thinking of jumping in and doing the same with one of their local institutions: http://manexus.ning.com/profiles/blogs/back-at-reality-ranch-social “We certainly live in interesting (and rapidly changing) times. There is a loud and significant clarion call from Commonwealth and State governments to digitise collections to enable free public access to our cultural assets. As Senator Kate Lundy stated in her address at the GLAM-Wiki conference in Canberra in August, this is the 'default position of the government’. This implies the GLAM sector adopting a spirit of openness, sharing and connectedness. Other inducements to participate in an open access, communication revolution include: the Government 2.0 Taskforce initiative, the Government Information Licensing Framework (GILF) and the need to respond, in this state, to the Queensland 2020:Ideas to Action in order to facilitate 'universal access to our arts and cultural assets’. “Back at 'Reality Ranch’ many GLAM sector institutions are contending with multiple challenges, not least of which are retaining staff during financially challenging times and maintaining traditional visiting audience numbers. Developing a policy for the use of social media (or helping to reduce your institution’s carbon footprint) may be mere peripheral points on the strategic planning radar. Other contributory forces which contribute to a state of partial inertia (in terms of the adoption of social media
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] The A E Bert Roberts photograph collection
David Milne has just written about this collaboration on the museum 3.0 ning here: http://museum30.ning.com/profiles/blogs/glamwiki-trial-social-history Lets try to find homes for these images within Wikipedia articles! -Liam [[witty lama]] wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Sarah Ewart sarahew...@gmail.com wrote: Well done on this, Craig. You seem to have been doing a great job with GLAM contacts in Queensland and hopefully others will be inspired and follow your lead and find ways to work with their local GLAM institutions. It's really very important that members take an active role with this kind of work. Cheers, Sarah On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Craig Franklin cr...@halo-17.net wrote: Hi All, I’m pleased to announce that based on some contacts that I made at the GLAM-WIKI conference back in August, and some onsite work that the Brisbane Wikimedia community has been doing at the Queensland Museum (QM), the Museum has commenced uploading digitized images from their “A E (Bert) Roberts” photograph collection to Commons. Bert Roberts was a coachbuilder from Ipswich in the early 1900s , but also enjoyed photography and took photographs of a wide variety of subjects, chiefly scenes of everyday life in Queensland from the time. While not famous for his photography during his lifetime, after his death his collection of images came to be recognised as providing a unique view into the society of the time. His photographs are the subject of a Queensland Museum exhibition, which chiefly resides at their Toowoomba campus (the Cobb Co Museum), but which presently has travelled to Ipswich for a limited time. So far, 21 images have been uploaded to Commons, but there are over a thousand glass plate negatives in total that the Museum has. You can see what’s been uploaded so far here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:A_E_%22Bert%22_Roberts_plate_glass_photo_collection My request to all of you, basically, is to: · Categorise, enhance, and basically edit the file pages as much as possible. · Look for appropriate pages on Wikipedia and other places where this content can be used, and use it. · Spread the word that GLAM institutions are seeing the benefits of making their collections available through Commons and other free media repositories! · Watch out and make sure the pages aren’t vandalised, and any problems that crop up are dealt with quickly so that QM can concentrate on providing us with free content, and not learning arcane points of Wiki-law. Many of the original plate glass negatives held by the museum have not been digitised yet, but if there is anyone who would be interested in volunteering some of their time to learn how to do, and then actually ** do** the digitisation, there may be an opportunity to get in and do that. If you’re interested (and preferably have some “serious” photography experience), let me know and I’ll pass your details on. It’s my hope that this will be but the first of many successful collaborations between WMAU people and GLAM institutions throughout the country. I already have a couple of other collaborations cooking away here in Queensland that will hopefully result in a win not only for the WM projects, but also open access to cultural and heritage material in general. If anyone has any questions regarding these particular images, please feel free to ask me! Cheers, Craig Franklin ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Bidding for Wikimania 2012
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Angela bees...@gmail.com wrote: Have you got any official support from the chapter for this bid? As far as I'm aware, the chapter board has not said anything yet. My hope is that making the first step of putting up a bid page will generate some discussion amongst both the committee and members of Wikimedia Australia and of the wider community in order to work out whether this is the right thing to do and whether 2012 is the right time. Hosting Wikimania in Australia been discussed for many years now, and for me 2012 seems the ideal time for a bid. We've recently had a successful GLAM-WIKI conference, proving there are enough people here to make such an event work. It leaves us with all of 2010 and 2011 to make preparations and to host other smaller events to help build up the team prior to Wikimania in 2012. This is just the very first stage, and deliberately started early (most 2011 bids aren't up yet) in order to allow a lot of discussion and decision making. There's lots of time before anything needs to be finalised for the chapter and its members to put forward their views and to decide whether or not to support this. Angela Thank you Delphine and Angela for your replies. Craig (and everyone else) perhaps I can give a bit of background and see if I can answer some of these questions. Angela and I have been in discussions with Business Events Sydney (BES - the new name for the Sydney Conventions Bureau) for a couple of months now. They approached the committee several months ago seeking a meeting to look at the feasibility of such a bid for Sydney - having watched the previous bid for Brisbane. BES do not charge commission or promote certain companies etc., they are a State government and tourism industry funded body to provide bidding support and advice in order to increase tourism to NSW. The Chapter committee gave me permission/support to meet with and canvas ideas with BES on an in-principle basis. I met with their representative (who has been extremely diligent in learning about past Wikimanias and their requirements, our culture and communication methods) and gave an outline of what a Wikimania in Sydney would require. Initially they were asking about 2011 and I pushed the discussion to 2012. As Delphine mentioned, the key ingredient in a successful Wikimania is not a Chapter per-se but a strong local team. Of course, as a Chapter person myself I wouldn't push for it if the Chapter wasn't itself keen. As for the number of Wikimedians in Sydney, what I have noted at the past three Wikimanias is the vast majority of the local volunteers were not in fact Wikimedians but sourced from local friendly organisations (such as local university students). Furthermore, given the turnout of the last couple of meetups in Sydney have been a majority of fist time meetup attendees I am convinced we haven't seen the potential of Sydney's Wikimedia community yet. Subsequently to the first meeting, I sought committee approval to bring Angela into the discussions too. I've been to the last 3 Wikimanias but Angela is one of only about a dozen who have been to every single one (Tim is also in this group). The BES rep, Angela and myself have looked over initial quotes from a series of venues and visited locations in Sydney to look at and talk with the venue managers. I hasten to add that this has always been and remains on an investigative level - no official decision to bid has been made by the committee, the chapter as a whole or even Angela and myself as the bid-leads. Furthermore the fact of our investigation into this issue at such an early date is a big advantage as it gives us time to scope the possibility (I'd like to mention that Wikimedia UK is currently preparing a bid for Manchester 2013http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Manchester_Wikimania_Bid !) Next week the three of us will be meeting with the bid leader of the Free/Open Source for Geospatial (FOSS4G http://2009.foss4g.org/) conference to get an idea of the feasibility. This was a conference run last month at the Sydney convention centre and the bid was supported by BES. They are a similar size to Wikimania and also a similar type of organisation (FOSS geeks, volunteers etc.) and have similar types of requirements and sponsorship potential. This will give us an increased understanding of the feasibility and potential pitfalls. Finally, BES staff will be traveling to the USA in the next couple of months on a general study tour. As part of this trip they've offered to drop by the WMF office in San Francisco to speak with a staff rep there about Wikimania and to learn more about our culture and what such an event would require. So, all in all the takeaways are: - permission has been sought from the Chapter committee for this early discussion. - no formal bid or decision to bid has been taken. - all investigations that have been made are ones that would need to be made to make an informed
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Bidding for Wikimania 2012
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Andrew orderinchao...@gmail.com wrote: Just a note re the above: The Chapter committee gave me permission/support to meet with and canvas ideas with BES on an in-principle basis. Subsequently to the first meeting, I sought committee approval to bring Angela into the discussions too. permission has been sought from the Chapter committee for this early discussion. I don't mean to be annoying here, but I think we need to be very careful about these kinds of statements. As an observer member of the committee, I can say with moderate certainty that the committee never resolved nor approved anything. There are no meeting minutes or resolutions covering it, and looking at the comm list emails, I would say a more correct statement was that the committee were notified of it, and that the committee did not oppose or object. regards Andrew I was not trying to imply that the WM-Au committee formally supports a bid, but that the committee was kept informed as to what I (and subsequently Angela and I) were up to and that I asked permission each time. Notified is indeed a good term for it. We never voted on it in meetings because there was nothing formal to vote on. Rather, it was raised on the mailing list to make sure that everyone on the committee was informed and to give a chance for people to raise any concerns or provide advice. Since no one raised any objections to this course of action you could call this tacit support. It has always been clear that the Australian Wikimedian community at large involved (and the committee would debate and vote) when we are at a stage of actually deciding on a course of action. Until then, it remains a fact-finding mission. Does this clarify things? -Liam ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] fixing wmau wiki
FYI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_account Shell Access (as far as I can fathom it) means the keys to the back door of the house. I for one would be very happy if Tim were able to do a bit of tinkering under the bonnet of our website if he is willing to do so. -Liam wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:22 AM, private musings thepmacco...@gmail.comwrote: heh... at this point /me offers tim a comfy chair, a nice cool drink (toohey's extra dry?) and generally placates the friendly developer - now wanders off and begs any passing person who might have an idea what this shell access of which he speaks is, to please make sure he gets it before he finishes his drink (or before he gets into the 4th or 5th) seriously - I feel certain no-one would object to Tim having shell access to the wmau wiki, so can we please make sure this lovely chap gets it asap :-) cheers, Peter, PM. On 11/30/09, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: Sarah Ewart wrote: Bug andrew and tell him what to do then :p Andrew as in Orderinchaos? Or Andrew as in Werdna? Andrew as in Werdna, he's our volunteer sysadmin. I've told him several times about the history tab (most recently when Angela mentioned it to me). I'm sure he could fix it if he had the inclination. He, however, is not the one who's offerring. -- Tim Starling ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] official wiki
I too would like to see the chapter wiki being used more, especially for planning IRL events. Perhaps the issue is not so much that the Billabong isn't the right place but that (as mentioned) it's not used by many people as yet - this is largely a factor of the relatively low number of people who are allowed to edit. Currently editing rights on the Australian chapter wiki are restricted to members. I note that the UK chapter's wiki http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Pageallows IP editing (though not on the mainpage) whilst the other English language chapter (NYC) focuses their attention on the meta-wiki pagehttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_New_York_City(which is also open for IP editing). Given this discussion is happening on the wikimedia-au list, rather than the members'-only list, perhaps it is pertinent to ask: would the subscribers to this list be more willing to become involved with the Australian chapter's wiki, events, and eventually perhaps also join the chapter if the Wiki was open for at least logged-in editing from all people? One advantage of this would be that we could centralise discussion about planning activities in Australia on the Australian chapter's wiki rather than having to split it across Wikipedia's meetup pages. One disadvantage of this would be that one of the promoted benefits of membership (being able to edit the wiki) is no longer exclusive. From a personal point of view, I believe that increasing the editability of the chapter wiki will increase the number and range of things happening in Australia and therefore become a driver of membership and activity. But, I'd like to hear what the current non-members think. -Liam (yes, I'm a member) wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Sarah Ewart sarahew...@gmail.com wrote: I assume it's the same with our wiki though I haven't actually checked myself, but usually editing the MediaWiki interface pages requires admin rights. We really don't want people stuffing around at will with the main interface. I also agree with Andrew about the Billabong page. It's meant to be a page where people can make suggestions and ask for help or whatever and we don't want to make it harder for people to find the central discussion/help page if they need it. I don't see how it not being used much makes a difference. There's only a small number of people who even have accounts with edit rights and the website is still very young so you could justify removing just about all the sidebar links by saying they're not currently used much. As Andrew said, we want to build the membership and as the active members grow the central discussion page will become more useful and important and in the interim it's there for anyone who needs it. On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Andrew orderinchao...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think it's a good idea to remove it - we want to get more member participation happening in 2010, and there simply wasn't the scope for that in 2009, hence why it wasn't utilised. cheers Andrew 2009/12/11 K. Peachey p858sn...@yahoo.com.au Yes it is possible to edit it, for details: mwbot-deux To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l n ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] official wiki
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Sarah Ewart sarahew...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 2:01 AM, Gnangarra gnanga...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/12/11 Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com One disadvantage of this would be that one of the promoted benefits of membership (being able to edit the wiki) is no longer exclusive. Seriously is this a benefit, whats the wiki for why would anyone join up just to edit the wiki No one will ever join the chapter to get editing rights. The connection of editing rights granted to members and motivation for membership is a step too far and illogical. I don't think anyone really believes that editing rights is a motivation for joining, but it is a right granted to members. Most, possibly all, people join the chapter because they want to support it and that's it. However, I don't support opening editing for the reasons that were raised by several people when this was last discussed a few months ago. We have in the past granted editing rights to people for special reasons (as Andrew referred to, we gave GLAM partners access for organising and working on GLAM) but in general I support editing remaining as a membership right. If no one will join in order to get the right to edit then its value as a right is relatively small. Maybe in the future it will indeed be a valuable right (like some professional associations have log-in websites too) but for the moment having it closed seem to be benefiting neither the members or the non-(potential)-members. The giving of the special access to people has happened, IIRC with two accounts. Both were War Memorial staff who were helping with the preparation of GLAM-WIKI and not as a thankyou or benefit of having been a partner in the event. On the other hand, the reason why the GLAM-WIKI recommendationshttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM-WIKI_Recommendationslive at meta rather than at the chapter wiki (where they, ideally, should have resided) was to allow people to comment on them. though that Wikimedia is built on a philopsy of anyone can edit, surely promoting that philopsy is the aim of the chapter. Wouldnt it be wise for Wikimedia-Australia to hold that as corner stone of its purpose. Does anyone think that the goals and ideals which we hold dear should not be what we present in our public place. I think this is flawed logic too. The Wikimedia Foundation's own website is invitation only, as is the internal wiki, the Chapter's wiki, the OTRS wiki, the ArbCom wiki, etc. All for different reasons, but the idea that we should open editing to anyone because Wikipedia is built on a philosphy of open editing is a wonky rationale IMO. We aren't Wikipedia and we're not obligated to run the chapter in the same way Wikipedia runs. The main reason I don't support opening editing up is that we lack an online community to deal with the problematic edits and vandalism etc that we'll inevitably have to deal with. It's the public face of the chapter and the pages need to be maintained accurately, the membership pages, minutes and resolutions need to have integrity. The UK chapters' website restricts editability to the various pages that are of importance e.g. meeting minuteshttp://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings, donation http://donate.wikimedia.org.uk/, constitutionhttp://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Constitution... but because it allows editing by default anyone can contribute to volunteerhttp://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Volunteer and water cooler http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Water_cooler. The integrity of the things that need to remain stable is maintained, but it still allows for people to engage. On the other hand, neither the Frenchhttp://www.wikimedia.fr/and German http://www.wikimedia.de/ chapter websites are wikis - they're normal read-only websites. I think both of these latter chapters are something that the Australia can aspire to in terms of capacity, activities, members and pretty-website-ness, but the UK chapter is probably a fairer comparison because our chapters are effectively the same age and have the same budgets (up till now). The chapter Wiki as a way of facilitating discussion within the Australian community is a good starting point, let it be a host for members to write about their wiki experiences, to seek help in opening doors to the GLAM sector, let it be somewhere for non wiki people to seek assistance in opening their doors and making what they have collected freely available to all. I also disagree with this. The chapter's wiki is a special purpose wiki, its official website and public face, it's not a free all-purpose hosting venue. I don't think that being a place where people who are interested in Australian Wikimedia activities can discuss things is considered all-purpose hosting. Sure, if people start spamming etc. we would have to respond somehow (I would suggest requiring login - no IP editing) but if people start talking *too much* on the chapter wiki then I
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] official wiki
Peter (Halasz), um... your last post is probably not helpful. I happen to agree with you that it is a good idea to make the chapter Wiki more open to editing. However, this is a discussion about the validity/importance/appropriateness of doing so and making inflammatory statements risks you falling foul of 'godwins law' and, by corollary, losing automatically. :-) This discussion here has heard from people who are members, elected committee and lapsed members, but I think we've yet to hear from anyone who is not a member as to whether they would be more willing to be involved with chapter activities. I would like to point to the UK chapter's water coolerhttp://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Water_cooler as an example of the kind of active conversations that I think the Chapter should be hosting on our Billabong http://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Billabong - which is where this whole discussion started from. I note with interest that they recently had a discussion on that page about whether their wiki should allow IP editing or not. Could any non-members who are following this discussion please pipe up, as, all current discussants are members and by definition are already allowed to edit and therefore any change wouldn't affect them very much. In any case, I have added to the agenda of the forthcoming committee meeting an item about whether we should change editing rights. -Liam [[witty lama]] wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 12:44 AM, Angela bees...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure why there's an assumption that edits by members are trustworthy (and edits by others are not). Since anyone can become a member, it's not reasonable to expect none of them will ever do anything bad on the wiki. And you're going to have a problem blocking them from the wiki if editing that is supposed to be something that they've been promised in return for their membership fee - do you want to have to give back their money if you find you need to block them? A better option might be to protect important pages and be quick to block problem users. Angela ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Member / non-member
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Karl Goetz k...@kgoetz.id.au wrote: On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:33:51 +1100 Richard Ames rich...@ames.id.au wrote: I sent in a donation in lieu of joining and I don't really remember why... but it was something to do with too much trouble to meet the requirements to join... FWIW, Cheers, Richard. Hm... I got as far as looking at memberdb's login window and thought 'ya know, its just not worth of digging out my login.'. I can sit in a quiet IRC channel for free :) thanks, kk If it's a memberDB problem, then hopefully that will be solved with the move to CiviCRM. The difficulty of becoming a member (both from the applicant's and secretary's POV) in MemberDB is well established, as well as the difficulties of knowing your financial status. The shift to the CiviCRM software, which is effectively the standard system across the Chapters and the WMF for tracking donations/members, will no doubt solve a lot of problems. It will also clear the major hurdle in the way that kept us from joining the annual fundraising drive. -Liam wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata -- Karl Goetz, (Kamping_Kaiser / VK5FOSS) Debian contributor / gNewSense Maintainer http://www.kgoetz.id.au No, I won't join your social networking group ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Membership, regional participation and other things
In fact, I don't even think that Sydney should be lumped in with Sydney when talking about chapter activity in the last year :-) IIRC the only official Chaper events that happened in real life last year were GLAM-WIKI (Canberra), a Backstage Pass (Sydney), Linux-Australia conference booth (Hobart). Effectively Canberra was our hub of activity :-) All of the activities that may make Sydney active and therefore appear to be getting Chapter attention are actually normal meetups that happened quite independently of the chapter - and thank you to the organisers of those events! So, if there is a concern that the chapter is focusing too much on Sydney (and/or Melbourne), I wouldn't want this to be the perception, off the back of local Wikimedians being particularly interested in hosting meetups. The solution is not to stop Sydney/Melbourne Wikimedians from having meetups but to encourage people in different cities to host their own. The first priority of my election statement http://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/2009-2010_AGM/Vice_President/Liam_Wyattthis year was to encourage the formation of a regular series of meetups in (at least) some major cities as a way of galvanising greater local-community activity - beyond the ad-hoc system that currently prevails. It would be fantastic if all Wikimedians in, say, Adelaide knew that the second Saturday of the month at the xyz pub was definitely going to be a meetup. It is the time and place consistency that makes the meetups in London (for example) such a success. To do that however, requires a local organiser. It doesn't necessarily have to be a chapter-led thing (although, as an elected chapter rep. that I would be nice!), but it does need local administration. It might also require some form of official organisation status (in order to book the function room of the city library for example). To that end - would people in some of the cities feeling left out of the action feel empowered to run a more frequent series of meetups (or other more involved activities) if there was a designated Chapter-approved organiser in the city? Would it assist in the creation of a feeling of activity and solidarity if there was someone in your city who's chapter-agreed responsibility it was to make local events happen? In the future they may even be able to have a local events budget, who knows. Moreover, would anyone in these cities like to take on this task? (I would like to suggest that the local rep *not* be a member of the committee, such as myself, in an effort to empower more people in the Australian wiki community rather than centralising power). Would this be a good way to empower more local activities around the country? Best, -Liam [[witty lama]] wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Sarah Ewart sarahew...@gmail.com wrote: Just to say that I also agree with membership concerns and it's something that's worried me for a long time, just from being aware of the membership from membership records and it's something that's going to need to be addressed for the viability of the chapter in the medium-long term. I don't think there's any quick and easy solutions to the problem though. However, I don't think it's correct to say the chapter activity has been concentrated in Melbourne. Melbourne always gets lumped in with Sydney when talking about the chapter, but really, its probably been as active here as in Queensland and pretty much anywhere else except Tassie (poor Chuq). On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Craig Franklin cr...@halo-17.net wrote: Hear hear! I’d like to add some of my own to cents to this discussion. The turnover in Queensland isn’t quite as bad, but based on the secretary’s report and my own observations of who’s been showing up to the AGMs, we had a forty percent turnover of membership in the last year. As Andrew says, that sort of statistic is simply not sustainable in the long term, and it **must** be addressed by the committee in 2010. As Andrew says, a lot of this is due to the fact that a lot of the chapter activity to date has been concentrated in Sydney and Melbourne, while things have been fairly quiet everywhere else. To a degree, in the case of Brisbane at least, this has partially been our own fault; events and perks for members simply are not going to materialise out of this air for us. At the same time though, there has to be a realistic commitment from those in the southern/eastern states to assist us in the northern/western in growing our local communities and membership. I note with satisfaction that those I’ve spoken to in the committee seem to “get it”, so hopefully there can be some real progress on this front. In closing, I think Andrew’s idea is an excellent one, and I’d encourage everyone (particularly those of us in Queensland) to get aboard and start brainstorming. Cheers, Craig F. *From:* wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] official wiki
It seems there are a variety of arguments that have now been put forward against opening up editing to non-members: * It's a member benefit - I think we all agree that this is no longer held as a valid claim. IIRC this was the SOLE reason why we didn't have open editing to start with, but no matter. * There'll be lots of vandalism - This has been responded to with the proposal that only logged-in editing be allowed and some form of CAPTCHA/email confirmation be used to stop spambots. * We need to keep the official pages stable - The official pages (rules, minutes, donation info...) can be easily locked from editing in just the same way that the copyright notice page on Wikipedia is locked. We could even use some form of flagged-revs if we chose. * It will look bad to our potential partner organisations - I have heard many criticisms or complaints from external organisations/professionals about Wikimedia/Wikipedia/Wikimedia-Australia and none of them have been about the potential for unruly discussion on the chapter wiki. If an organisation is unwilling to work with the Chapter on the basis that there might be some disucssion on the wiki that they don't like, then they've obviously never heard of Wikipedia. Many organisations have some form of public discussion section on their website (e.g. comments on company blogs) and this does not meant that people think less of the company. If we hope to get more grassroots involvement in the chapter then IMO we cannot force people to pay $40 and register an account before they can engage in chapter activities. Volunteers should not be forced to pay money to volunteer. Any organisation that choses not to associate itself with WM-Au on the basis that we operate a wiki that members of the general public can edit is more than likely not ready to work with an organisation that promotes free-culture at all. And, just like on WP, we can indeed include layers of locks or tags that indicate 'this page is official policy' or 'this page is for general discussion'. -Liam wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Brian Salter-Duke b_d...@bigpond.net.auwrote: There has been a lot of discussion about the official wiki and who should be able to edit it. This is in response to the whole debate, so I have not kept any other comments. This wiki is the official wiki. It is how we present ourselves, not just to members, but to prospective members, to regulatory bodies, to Glam institutions who we hope to work with, with a range of other bodies and with the general public. It is the only place where our rules are displayed, where minutes of general and committee meetings are recorded, and a host of other official stuff. We are incorporated. We are a legal entity. We now have approval to fund raise in Victoria. We need to apply for fund raising approval to all other States and Territories, except the NT. We have an ABN. We will be applying for deductible gift recipient (DGR) status. All this has to be reflected in our official pages. We are trying hard to relate in a professional manner with a large range of GLAM institutions across the country. They will look to our official wiki for reliable information about us. They will judge how serious we are by how professional we present ourselves. The issue is not really about vandalism, but the integrity and professionalism of the whole official wiki. Vandalism with certainly destroy that, but so will edits that discuss ideas that are not officially approved, and edits that are inappropriate. If readers find information that they find to be inaccurate or inappropriate, they will conclude that we are not a serious professional body that they can work with, and they may doubt the accuracy of material on what are clearly official pages. This does not mean that we have to restrict editing to the committee, but we have to make sure that integrity and professionalism is preserved and indeed enhanced. It is not just a question of removing vandalism. There are some pages that must never be allowed to be vandalised. Karl has suggested that the committee does not need to be involved in removing vandalism, but this misses the point. Certainly non-committee members can assist with improving and preserving the wiki, but the committee has to be involved. That is what the committee is elected for. The committee is responsible for the integrity and professionalism of our official presentation outside the association. As a wikimedian, of course I am in favour of opening up the wiki as much as we can, but as a member of the committee and as Public Officer responsible for reporting on our work to Consumer Affairs Victoria, I am very conscious of the responsibility to preserve the integrity and professionalism of the official wiki. If we decide to open it up, we must be quite open about what we are doing. We can not just protect some pages, or restrict editing of some
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - Measures to improve safety of the internet for families
Yes, indeed this is a good question and an important issue. On a personal basis I am completely opposed to the filter and I imagine most Wikimedians in Australia are. However, I would caution that the Chapter cannot be seen in word or deed to be responsible for Wikipedia. This was a problem faced by Wikimedia UK in both the virgin killer and the National Portrait Gallery issues - the UK chapter was very careful not to place itself as the official spokesperson for Wikipedia. Of course, the mandate of the Chapter is to advocate for Free Cultural Works and in that sense being involved in political lobbying is something that it can/could/should do. We have previously made a submission to a government inquiry for example. Making a statement about the filter or similar actions is within the chapter's powers. But... in the event that Wikipedia were to become blocked or was caught up in some scandal around this issue, the Chapter can only describe what Wikipedia policies and practices are - it cannot be seen as responsible for the content and have a policy for how to make Wikipedia unblocked or what-have-you. my 2 cents, -Liam wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 5:26 AM, Andrew orderinchao...@gmail.com wrote: Matt, thanks - good question. As yet, no it doesn't have an official position - I have forwarded this to the committee list so one can be reached promptly. Cheers Andrew On 16/12/2009, Matt inbgn mattin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Does the chapter have a position on this proposalhttp://www.minister.dbcde.gov.au/media/media_releases/2009/115 ? Should it have a position? If it has a position, what should it be doing to advance that position? Cheers, Matt ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] AFACT v iiNet
Dear Wikimedia Australia list, Many of you may know this already, but some may not... Today the judgement was handed down by Justice Cowdroy in the AFACT v iiNet case. This is an extremely important case in Australian Internet law and will potentially be used as a precedent internationally. Essentially, the decision found that iiNet (an ISP) did not endorse the actions of its customers infringing copyright for three reasons: First, the copyright infringement occurred directly as a result of the BitTorrent system, not the use of the internet, and iiNet did not create or control the BitTorrent system. Second, iiNet did not have a relevant power to prevent those infringements occurring. Third, iiNet did not sanction, approve or countenance copyright infringement. (summary from Peter Blackhttp://freedomtodiffer.com/iinet-wins-at-first-instance-judgment-now-ava ). The money quote from the judgement is: It is impossible to conclude that iiNet has authorised copyright infringement ... (it) did not have a relevant power to prevent those infringements occurring, AFACT is a consortium of Village Roadshow, Universal Pictures, Warner Bros, Paramount , Sony, Twentieth Century Fox, Disney, the Seven Network and others and stands for the Australian Federation against Copyright Theft. The full judgement has now been published at AustLII: http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/FCA/2010/24.html [note, my employer]. Here's a few relevant news stories: ABC - http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/02/04/2809856.htm?section=entertainment Fairfax - http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/iinet-slays-hollywood-in-landmark-piracy-case-20100204-ndwr.html Computerworld - http://www.computerworld.com.au/tag/AFACT%20v%20iiNet And here's the Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFACT_v_iiNet Happy interwebs, -Liam wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Should we petition the pollies on copyright law?
The issue of whether there is new copyright created when a two-dimensional PD work is scanned or photographed is one that is definitely one of the biggest bones of contention between the Wikimedia community and the GLAM sector, not just in Australia but worldwide. Even with the Bridgeman v Corel decision in the US (upon which Wikimedia bases its policies) the US GLAM sector does not apply the principle of originality in a consistent way. See this recent paper for a fantastic overview of the situation: Control of Museum Art Images: The Reach and Limits of Copyright and Licensinghttp://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1542070 by Crews and Brown, Jan. 2010. There are three potential ways to obtaining a positive (from our perspective) solution in Australia - none of them quick or easy. 1) As suggested - political lobbying to have the law changed/clarified. This would be, as you can imagine, bloody hard. There was major copyright reform only a few years agohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_copyright_law#2006_Changes_to_Australian_Copyright_Lawand the federal government has no willingness to open up that issue again. The (secret) ACTA negotiationshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreementwill no-doubt make things even tougher on free-culture advocates. However, there are two other issues that are higher up on the government's law reform agenda that I believe could have even greater positive impact for free-cultural works in Australia. One is the proposal for all government Public Sector Information (PSI) to be re-licensed under CC-By just as the Australian Bureau of Stats did recently. The other is a potential review of the Statutory licensing scheme whereby the Australian education sector is treated akin to a commercial reuser of content and has to pay royalties to the Australian GLAM sector (and the ABC, SBS etc.). We are apparently the only country in the world that charges our schools a royalty fee to display our own public broadcaster's shows in classrooms - costing the education sector tens of millions and reducing access to Australian culture in Australian schools because of it. As much as I want clarity on the digitisation of GLAM objects question, I reckon that if either or both of these other political reform issues were sorted out at the federal government level they would have far greater impact and would benefit the free-culture cause more widely. Therefore it would be my recommendation that we focus any political lobbying efforts there. The Government 2.0 task-force http://gov2.net.au/ are already on this case and we have good friends within that group. 2) The second way of getting resolution on the digitisation copyright issue is, as also mentioned, a UK-NPG style lawsuit. This is dangerous to say the least. Not only is there the potential of losing, there's also the very poor publicity that both the GLAM sector and our own community would suffer if such a legal action were to be undertaken in Australia. Whilst I personally doubt that the NPG case would ever get to court, the issue has been a net-loss for both communities - there is no 'winner' in that situation. There is a further complication with both of these two options (lobbying or lawsuit). Even if we were to win and forcibly get legal clarity on this issue in our favour, the likely outcome is that the GLAM sector would simply take down their images from their websites and retreat behind more restrictive *licenses* as a way of controlling their content. Using contract law rather than Copyright law can actually be more restrictive and contracts never expire like Copyright does. Even if the scans/photos are proved to be PD there is no obligation for the GLAM publish them online. 3) The final way, and the one I would suggest we work on, is getting the GLAM sector to make the change willingly. This is a long term project and one that I am personally engaged in on an almost daily basis but it is one that I believe we are beginning to win. Some GLAMs are beginning to change their policies or talk about changing their policies but more importantly there is an increasing awareness that this is even an issue at all. The first step is to just keep reminding any and all GLAM reps that we know (personally, professionally etc.) that this is an issue that we care about and is not going to go away. There is leadership internationally in this area (for example the smithsonian commonshttp://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/16399) and the Australian sector is changing its theoretical approach. I was at a conference this week where the catch-cry from the keynote speaker (a leader in the Aust. Museum sector) was museums as stewards, not owners, of cultural heritage, followed later in the day by another speaker who said Wikipedia is out there waiting to use our collections. So, as un-sexy as it might sound, I would argue that we should just keep talking with any/all people we know in the industry to raise awareness
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Chapter selected WMF board seats
On 17 May 2010 00:23, Sarah Ewart sarahew...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, The committee is currently considering the issue of chapter selected seats on the WMF board. We have the opportunity to submit nominees for consideration by the chapters. If you can think of someone you think might be an appropriate candidate (or you're that person yourself!) and you'd like to make any suggestions, please let us know by emailing us off-list on commit...@wikimedia.org.au. Regards, Sarah To that end, here is the call for candidates that was announced on the Foundation-l mailing list, describing the reason for this call, and links to information about the role and links to the requirements for nomination etc. if you'd like more information. http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2010-May/057762.html Best, Liam wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] education projects and suitability of wmf projects in schools
When you start quoting Sanger's recent spray against Wikipedia to back up your argument then you know you've got larger problems Seriously - whilst I think it's an important issue that Wikipedia needs to be aware of how children could be affected by seeing adult material on Wikipedia (and how that might result in lesser access to Wikipedia in schools - which would harm our mission of providing educational materials) - surely you've realised that the way you go about peddling this issue, forum shopping, is not helping your cause. There was a lengthy, heated, and ultimately instructive debate recently (as a result of that Sanger spray) about how Wikipedia could provide tools to end-users for filtering the content they receive from Wikipedia that didn't undermine our principles of not censoring etc. Why not get involved in that existing conversation rather than trying to make this an Australian-specific issue? -Liam wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata On 17 June 2010 03:47, private musings thepmacco...@gmail.com wrote: G'day all, I wonder if we might find a good spot to have a discussion, as a chapter, about some of the issues relating to the explicit content hosted on Wikimedia Foundation projects (notably commons) and how it impacts education outreach in general. Maybe some principles are easier to distill on a chapter level? - it'd be nice to think so :-) The English Wikipedia co-founder, Larry Sanger, recently wrote; ''It is wrong for Wikipedia, both the community and the foundation, to portray its avowedly uncensored--read, absurdly child-unfriendly--resource as appropriate for children. This will remain the case until some sort of reliable filtering mechanism is available. At present, none is.'' http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Content_noticeboarddiff=prevoldid=367443733 I tend to agree, and in particular I feel that the use of WMF projects within schools is inappropriate, and long term opens us up to significant harm in reputation, with consequent knock on effects on utility (ie. when external organisations engage with the nature and scale of such images, I believe it's generally pretty shocking and upsetting - and they may conclude that WMF is, overall, irresponsible in this area). I think it's fair to say that engaging in 'outreach' work, in the manner the chapter supports, and facilitates, probably comes with responsibility - perhaps I can kick off some useful discussions with this question; Do you believe children should have access to wikipedia at school? If so, do you believe any sort of supervision or protection is appropriate or necessary? Maybe the official wiki would also be a good place to discuss this - although a note I dropped in recently, really as a reminder to myself, has been removed by Andrew as nothing to do with education projects - perhaps we'll find a better spot? ( http://www.wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Talk:Education_projectsdiff=2471oldid=2459) cheers, Peter, PM. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: [WikiX-l] Wiki 10th planning
Just saw this on the Wikimedia UK list, which itself came from the comm-com list. The issue being: Does Australia want to do anything specific as part of the potential Wikipedia's 10th Birthday celebrations in January. Furthermore - does anyone want to put their hand up to run the show? :-) -Liam wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata -- Forwarded message -- From: Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net Date: 14 August 2010 08:55 Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: [WikiX-l] Wiki 10th planning To: wikimediau...@lists.wikimedia.org See below. This is a topic that I haven't heard much talk about in the UK yet - do we want to do something for Wikipedia's 10th birthday in the UK? I'm wondering whether we could do a hack party. Essentially, book a large space with good internet access and lots of refreshments, and have as many Wikimedians as possible coming together in real life and editing Wikipedia. Would anyone be interested in this, and if so where should it be? Does anyone have any other ideas for what we could do in the UK? Thanks, Mike P.S. I'm assuming that nothing in the email below is confidential, as the original was sent to a publicly accessible list. Begin forwarded message: From: Jay Walsh jwa...@wikimedia.org Date: 14 August 2010 00:52:47 GMT+01:00 To: Communications Committee wmfc...@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wmfcc-l] Fwd: [WikiX-l] Wiki 10th planning Reply-To: Communications Committee wmfc...@lists.wikimedia.org Hi folks, Some of you are probably aware that a wikix-l list was created a few months ago to stimulate discussion and centralize planning for 10th anniversary celebrations. Our birthday is coming up way too soon - January 15, 2011. I expect we'll end up discussing this on every single list, but I'm hoping to share all of our plans and focus the discussion on the wikix-l list. Optimally we will have at least one rep from each chapter on the Wikix-l list. We'll also be looking for broad representation from the myriad WP's. Sign up for the list here: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikix-l Thanks - more as it comes together... Begin forwarded message: From: Jay Walsh jwa...@wikimedia.org Date: August 13, 2010 4:45:28 PM PDT To: wiki...@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [WikiX-l] Wiki 10th planning Reply-To: wiki...@lists.wikimedia.org Hi folks - I know things have been quiet on this list from the Foundation side over the past few months, and we know all too well that there's not much time between now and the magic date: January 15, 2011! Supporting Wikipedia 10th anniversary planning has largely fallen into the global development/communications section of the Wikimedia Foundation. Of course nothing will be possible without lots of broad support from our thousands of global volunteers and our chapters, as well as other partners (new and old!) and sponsors to help kick things off in style, for Wikipedia's 10th year. Right now there are a couple of major considerations here at the Foundation, and I thought I'd start by sharing those major sections. Some areas need a lot more input from the community than others, but in all cases we want to share everything that's being planned (our ideas, your ideas, strategies, practices etc) so we can openly collaborate and try innovative ideas. I see these as the three major areas of planning for Wiki 10 - leading up to, and during the year starting Jan 15: 1. Global celebrations (chapters and volunteer groups around the world hosting events, parties, and local festivities) 2. A 'free' birthday celebration in San Francisco (A Foundation-driven party on January 15, probably open to the public and acting as a central focus for festivities here in the Bay area) 3. On-wiki festivities and celebrations (Any number of great ideas to mark the 10th anniversary, on en:wp or other wikis - which may include tie-ins with the upcoming annual fundraiser) We'll have more to say about each of these areas early next week, and hopefully we'll add more areas or fill those sections out soon. I'd like to use this list as a central planning space, but I'm sure there will also be on-wiki discussions taking place. The Foundation also has a small budget to provide reasonable grants to chapters or other volunteer groups around the world to support celebrations. The conditions for receiving those grants won't be too complicated, and we hope to get that process underway soon. Although the Foundation is largely focussed on hosting a party and helping to support activities, we want to help coordinate a central on-wiki space where all activities from chapters, project reps etc can be shared so we can create a global 'at a glance' page with all planned activities. We also plan to post our plans for a local party in the next week or two, so you can see how we're pulling the pieces together, what partners we're talking to, and generally share our information so you have a party template to use (if you're
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: [WikiX-l] Wiki 10th planning
On 15 August 2010 05:24, Pru Mitchell pru.mitch...@bigpond.com wrote: BTW is there any progress report on the Bookshelf projects that were discussed/funded(?) last year for education outreach activities internationally? There is a bit, yes. Probably the best place for info is the homepage of the project here: http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf_Project Which includes a list of items that the project will deliver as well as the production schedule. The WMF has hired Rod Dunican ( http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Staff#Community) to project manage the whole shenanigans. I also know that the WMF has been filming a professionally produced outreach film to explain who Wikimedians are, what Wikipedia (etc.) is about and how to get started. Not sure on the shedule for that but I expect that it will be a centerpiece of the bookshelf. -Liam wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Zootober
Nice one :-) Another possibility is asking a zoo to pick an animal or species that they're actively invlolved in conservation work with - to improve biological articles about thee endangered species (for which the zoo should have good references for). I know that Melbourne Zoo has a recently born elephant cub [or is 'calf' the correct term?] that might be a good reason to focus on that species. -Liam On 20/09/2010, at 12:51, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: October is Zootober. http://www.cultureandrecreation.gov.au/articles/zoo/ Is anyone involved in an Australian zoo? If so, how can we help? Wikimedians could go to Australian zoos armed with camera's, and we could create a Commons page including our images collected in October. Or we could improve the Wikipedia articles about Australian zoos... Any other ideas? -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Queensland museum commons
Dear all - especially Craig F, Here at the Museums Australia conference at Melbourne University is David Milne from the QLD Museum - the curator who put up some of their photos last year in Commons. His presentation is up next after lunch. From the abstract in the program it looks like it will be a positive presentation - referring to research undertaken by the worldwide Wikimedia community has added to the museum's knowledge about objects, photographs and locations... I'm obviously going to make myself known in discussion section of that presentation but wanted to know if there was anything anyone wanted me to specifically say or ask at that session? (I shall be speaking tomorrow morning about the British Museum project). Best, -Liam / Witty Lama ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: [Wikimediauk-l] Open Government Licence
Forwarding to the Australia list - some great news from the UK! Hopefully we can follow suit someday. -Liam Begin forwarded message: From: Peter Coombe thewub.w...@googlemail.com Date: 30 September 2010 20:14:35 AEST To: wikimediauk-l wikimediau...@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Open Government Licence Reply-To: wikimediau...@lists.wikimedia.org This announcement seems to have slipped under the radar a bit, but (assuming I'm reading it correctly) it's potentially very good news: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/news/498.htm I'm no expert but it looks basically like a CC-BY license, with a few additions to explicitly spell out moral rights. They're claiming it's interoperable with CC, but I haven't seen anything from Creative Commons themselves on the issue yet. Here's more about where it will be applied: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/information-management/government-licensing/what-ogl-covers.htm So it seems like it will apply at least to things previously under Crown copyright and Crown database right by HMSO, with a few exceptions. The exclusion for the other delegated bodies (last bullet) is a major limit, but we can hope that they will follow HMSO's lead. Pete / the wub ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] WikiAcademy program - Regional historical societies
This proposal is potentially something that Museums Australia (the peak body for museums -small and large) might be willing to help out with in some fashion. They attended GLAMWIKI in Canberra and made it clear to me afterwards that they saw the most benefit/interest in working with Wikimedia in regional and small organisations that don't have an in-house web department or social media strategy. So, they could potentially help promote/support such events as this is a good synergy for their oft-forgotten regional members. -Liam Wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata On 14/11/2010, at 5:56, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Wikimedia Australia has launched its first proposal for the coming year, supporting Wiki*edia collaboration with historical societies. http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Proposal:WikiAcademy_program_-_Regional_historical_societies This program is only a proposal at this stage. We are looking for people in our community, members and non-members, to let us know how it can be improved in order to be applicable to real world scenarios that will benefit our community. Once the initial round of improvements have been made, the organisation will approve it, and groups across Australia can begin planning. We hope that there will be many of these WikiAcademy events occurring in 2011, hopefully in many states. -- John Vandenberg, WMAu president ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Newspaper cites from Trove
I've put the relevant person at the NLA - Rose Holley (who was a speaker at GLAM-WIKI :-) ) - in touch with Moondyne. Hopefully they can put something together! Best, -Liam wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata On 16 November 2010 01:55, Moondyne moondyne...@gmail.com wrote: http://newspapers.nla.gov.au is shortly moving to Trove -- http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper?q= In Trove, after finding a page I want to cite in Wikipedia, I can click on More options, Cite, and a window pops up with pre-formattted MLA and APA cite texts. Example below CiteArticle identifierhttp://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article10055249Page identifierhttp://nla.gov.au/nla.news-page876271 APA citationSHIPPING. (1910, March 7). *The Mercury *(Hobart, Tas. : 1860-1954), p. 4. Retrieved November 16, 2010, from http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article10055249 MLA citationSHIPPING. *The Mercury *(Hobart, Tas. : 1860-1954) 7 Mar 1910: 4. Web. 16 Nov 2010.Harvard/Australian citation1910 'SHIPPING.', *The Mercury *(Hobart, Tas. : 1860-1954), 7 March, p. 4, viewed 16 November, 2010, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article10055249 WP uses a hybrid of these formats. I was wondering if WM-AU could officially approach NLA to see if a Wikipedia cite could be added to that window. Just an idea... Regards Ian ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Newspaper cites from Trove
Thank you very very much for this Rose,
I'm forwarding it to the Australian mailing list from where the request
originated. Hopefully someone with more technical understanding than I have
will be able to work some wiki-magic with that information.
Sincerely,
Liam
(I'm sending this from an iPad and i'm not sure if the original attachment will
be sent with this email. Please advise if it doesn't and i'll send this again
from a desktop computer).
Wittylama.com/blog
Peace, love metadata
On 30/11/2010, at 6:12, Rose Holley rhol...@nla.gov.au wrote:
Dear Liam
I attach a document outlining how some of the NLA services can be harvested.
Our plan for Trove including Newspapers is to provide an API so people can
download records. We think more people want an API than OAI so are looking
at that first. In the meantime you can screenscrape.
Records in Trove that are in MARC have a download MARC xml record from the
‘cite this’ box. That is mainly for books. The newspaper articles are in
ALTO schema (not MARC or DC). Hope that helps.
Rose
-- Forwarded message --
From: John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com
Date: 22 November 2010 22:52
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Newspaper cites from Trove
To: Wikimedia-au wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org
NLA is exposing DC records va OAI, however I don't think the
newspapers are yet available via OAI.
http://www.nla.gov.au/digicoll/oai/
http://www.nla.gov.au/apps/oaicat/servlet/OAIHandler?verb=ListMetadataFormats
http://www.nla.gov.au/apps/oaicat/servlet/OAIHandler?verb=ListSets
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Rodney Brown rdbr...@pacific.net.au wrote:
On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 09:55 +0800, Moondyne wrote:
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article10055249
I see it is working now, though I'm not sure about the publisher term in
this context. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cite_news
Wikipedia citation
{{cite news |url=http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article10055249 |
title=SHIPPING. |newspaper=[[The_Mercury_%28Hobart%29|The Mercury
(Hobart, Tas. : 1860-1954)]] |location=Hobart, Tas. |date=7 March 1910 |
accessdate=23 November 2010 |page=4 |publisher=National Library of
Australia}}
If you talk to the NLA person again you could ask them to consider
providing PRISM or Dublin Core metadata, which could be more directly
mined for citation data.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publishing_Requirements_for_Industry_Standard_Metadata
___
Wikimediaau-l mailing list
Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
___
Wikimediaau-l mailing list
Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
How to harvest data from National Library of Australia Discovery
Services.doc
___
Wikimediaau-l mailing list
Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Sydney RecentChangesCamp x, 16 March 2011, 6-8pm
Dear all (especially those in Sydney), In case you were not aware, next Wednesday evening RecentChangesCamp will be coming to Sydney! Details below. Please come along if you can :-) -Liam wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata -- Forwarded message -- From: Jutta von Dincklage jutta@cancer.org.au Dear All, Just letting you know that we have finalised the details for the RecentChangesCamp x in Sydney. The event is scheduled for 16 March 2011, 6-8pm Location: 120 Chalmers St, Sydney @ Cancer Council Australia office, Boardroom on Ground Floor (50m from Central Station Devonshire St exit) Please register your attendance on the eventbrite page http://rccxsydney.eventbrite.com/ Details can also be found on the event wiki page: http://bit.ly/fymoXb All topics we discussed at the RCC in Canberra can be found here http://bit.ly/fswm5b. We hope to see you all there for some stimulating wiki discussions. Don’t forget to forward the event details to your wiki contacts (eventbrite let’s you choose your social media channels ;-) ) Kind regards, Jutta von Dincklage, Chris Watkins and Liam Wyatt [image: recent changes camp expanded.jpg] image002.jpg___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Meeting with the ABC next week
Dear Australian Wikimedians, (I'll crosspost this to the Wikiproject Australia noticeboard) Next week on Tuesday myself alongside Leigh Blackall (User:Leighblackall from Uni of Canberra), Andrew Garrett (user:werdna dev from the WMF) Jutta (User:Juttavd from Cancer Council Aust) and Jessica Coates (formerly with Creative Commons aust) will all be visiting the ABC headquarters in Sydney to have a meeting with managers of different departments as well as a lunchtime presentation to a larger group of staff. As has sometimes been discussed on this list and elsewhere, the possibilities of Wikipedia/Wikimedia working with the ABC abound but we've never really been able to make headway in having an actual relationship. Whilst it's not expected that this meeting will immediately result in the ABC making their media archive PD, we do hope that this will be the start of, as they said in Casablanca, a beautiful friendship... The meeting will no-doubt be wideranging but there are a couple of ideas that I specifically want to raise with the ABC. 1) I'd like to show them how Al Jazeera is publishing some of their footage under cc-by and see whether ABC could feasibly do the same http://cc.aljazeera.net/ 2) I'd like to see if the ABC News website would like to add in Wikipedia Citation template code to it's pages, to make it easier for people to footnote Australian news stories in WP. I'll be showing them how the National Library of Australia already does this with their digitised newspaper collection (e.g. http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/628050 - click on the cite button near the top left). 3) Point out to them how they can, if they want, use Wikinews content even more freely that Wikipedia because it is CC-BY. There are of course, no shortage of other potential things that the ABC and Wikimedia could do, so if you've got something that you really want put on the table please tell us. -Liam wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Meeting with the ABC next week
On 2 June 2011 02:02, Nick Jenkins nic...@gmail.com wrote: Whilst it's not expected that this meeting will immediately result in the ABC making their media archive PD, we do hope that this will be the start of, as they said in Casablanca, a beautiful friendship... Could try starting down this path with something simple that directly connects the two organisations: Perhaps we could ask for a photo to put on improve the wikipedia pages of current ABC personalities/presenters, under some type of suitable free-content license? Some examples of bio pages for ABC presenters without photos: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Kohler http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Moore http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annabel_Crabb http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrie_Cassidy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverley_O%27Connor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_Jones http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Uhlmann http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felicity_Davey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Henderson_%28ABC%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenny_Woodward http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Harmsen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juanita_Phillips http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karina_Carvalho http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathy_Bowlen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leigh_Sales http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Coggan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quentin_Dempster http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Morecroft http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ros_Childs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Woolf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Cannane http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamara_Oudyn http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Jones_%28news_journalist%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Haussegger http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitney_Fitzsimmons -- All the best, Nick. I think this is an especially good idea - it has a higher likelihood of success I reckon because, whatever they might think of free-licensing, they can see the direct publicity potential (with their marketing/PR hat on). This list might also expand to official cast photos of TV shows Can I suggest that people put their ideas on the wiki talkpage here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Australian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#Meeting_with_the_ABCThat way they're all combined publicly and I can also pull up that page in the meeting to demonstrate that there is broad interest from the community in having a relationship. -Liam ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Dictionary of Sydney has new free-licensed content
Hi all, as you may or may not know, a couple of years ago I was working with the Dictionary of Sydney [DoS] - an digital history project to get recognised experts to write about all aspects of Sydney's history/people/places etc. Whilst I was there one of the things I was particularly involved with was ensuring that each contributing author had the option of licensing their content under CC-by-SA, and I'm pleased to say that the vast majority did so. Just this week saw a new update to the website with a variety of new articles to add to the existing collection - as described in their blogpost: http://dictionaryofsydney.wordpress.com/2011/06/20/drumroll/ *You can see all the articles that are freely-licensed by going here and clicking on the sort by license type button at the top http://www.dictionaryofsydney.org/browse/entries* As you can see these articles can be of huge value to WP content about Sydney - some are even expert peer reviewed and published in the UTS Sydney Journal http://epress.lib.uts.edu.au/ojs/index.php/sydney_journal. Because they're stable articles by named authors in a government-research-grant funded publication they are good sources to reference in their own right, as well as providing many good footnotes within the articles to primary sources. Of course, being CC-by-SA, they are also able to be copied directly into Wikipedia and Wikified (something I've previously done with Sydney artists' Camps http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_artists%27_camps, Glebe Island http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glebe_Island and Hugo Alpenhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Alpen . Is there anyone here who has the time and technical knowledge and would like to: a) make a neat attribution templatehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Attribution_templatesfor when content is copy/pasted into WP from the DoS, e.g. the way we do with Template:Catholic Encyclopediahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Catholic_Encyclopedia. You can see the text I've written manually to provide attribution at the end of the articles mentioned just above? b) relatedly, make a specific source templatehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Specific-source_templatesfor when we wish to use DoS articles as a citation (to add to the collection of other Australian source templateshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Australian_specific-source_templates !)? c) If it's possible, create some kind of checklist where we can mark off which articles have been imported and integrated, which ones have been used for footnotes only, and which have done neither? If people in Sydney are interested perhaps we could ask the folks at DoS or their partners the StateLibrary if they would like to host an editathon where we can spend some time working on this in person? Anyone interested? Next time I get a chance I'm going to try and merge their article on Bungaree http://www.dictionaryofsydney.org/entry/bungaree into WP's much less comprehensive article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bungaree though if anyone wants to beat me to it, go right ahead! -Liam p.s. I've crossposted this to Australian Wikipedians Noticeboard herehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Australian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#Dictionary_of_Sydney_has_new_freely_licensed_content . wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Open-Edge (education) conference - Sydney, 9 Oct
Are you sure it's for October? THat seems a bit of a short lead-time given it's already the 21st! :-) I was fortunate enough to be able to speak at the last one of these events ( http://open-edge.info/liam-wyatt ). If it's anything like that one in 2009 this is a nice small 1 day conf dedicated to using innovative and OSS systems in secondary education. I'd recommend putting your hand up it if anyone is interested in meeting other techie folks in the education sector in NSW. Best, -Liam On 20 August 2009 03:24, Brianna Laugher brianna.laug...@gmail.com wrote: Hello list, especially Sydneysiders, A friend of mine, Donna Benjamin, is organising an event in Sydney in October called Open-Edge (as in education I think). http://open-edge.info/ They have relatively short speaking slots (15-30 minutes) and I think it would be great if there was a Wikimedian presentation there. Does anyone feel up for it? She is looking to finalise the line-up relatively soon. If you have never presented before, those of us who have can give you some tips for what to cover, common questions etc. There are also quite a few existing slide sets etc you can draw on. It's quite a short time so you don't need to present the comprehensive thing ever, and the audience should be quite friendly. Anyone keen? thanks, Brianna ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] English Wikipedia blackout in protest of SOPA
Dear all, In case you were unaware, there's been a lot of debate recently about two bills being proposed in the US that are called SOPA and PIPA and how these will, if enacted, greatly harm the free internet as we know it. The en.WP article about this bill, if you want background info, is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act In case you hadn't heard this elsewhere, there is now consensus for the unprecedented action tomorrow for a one-day shutdown/blackout of the English Wikipedia starting tomorrow - at 0500 UTC as far as I can tell (which is the afternoon in Australia). You can read the just-released press announcement from the WMF here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/English_Wikipedia_to_go_dark and also a more descriptive blogpost here: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/01/16/wikipedias-community-calls-for-anti-sopa-blackout-january-18/ Undoubtedly, this WILL be a big news story and we will all be asked by our friends/relatives what's going on, so I recommend you have a look at those links so you can answer any questions you get tomorrow. Also, if you're friendly with any journalists, it's probably a good idea to send them the links to the above press release and blog too (or just forward this email). For more details on how the consensus was reached and technicalities and on-wiki repercussions, see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Action#Summary_and_conclusion Sincerely, Liam Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] New roles - Creative Commons National Museum
Hi all, crossposting to the Australia lists cultural partners list, I'd just like to send a quick message to you all to tell you what I'm up to, now that my GLAM Fellowship with the WMF is over. I would not normally feel the need to interrupt everyone by detailing what my employment is, but it is quite relevant to Wikimedia GLAM so I think I should explain briefly. I apologise in advance for the self-focused post! If you're interested in more details, or can help by giving me tips/contacts, please reply offlist. From last week, I have taken a part time role with the Australian Research Council funded Centre for Creative Industries and Innovation http://cci.edu.au/ which is also the office of Creative Commons Australia (and sponsored the first ever GLAM-WIKI conference in 2009). My role will be to assist Australian cultural organisations to get more of their archives online using Creative Commons (especially under cc-0 and cc-by). [By definition I will therefore NOT be focusing on getting access to already Public Domain content, but this might happen as a flow-on effect in some cases]. This is not an advocacy role but a practical hand holding role. Not all of this work will be relevant to Wikimedia projects, but hopefully I'll be able to report frequently in This Month in GLAM on new content available for Wikimedians to use. I have several leads and contacts already, but if you know any Australian cultural organisations that are interested in using CC, please consider passing their details to me offlist so I can help facilitate. Relatedly, also last week, I have accepted the six-month role of 2012 Directors Fellowship at the National Museum of Australia. They have asked me to develop a comprehensive Wikimedia strategy for the organisation which includes staff training, executive briefing, situation report (e.g. what other museums are doing, and how their content is already being used) and a three year plan. Once this project is finished and the situation report plan is formally accepted I will also put it on Commons in case others find it useful. Unsurprisingly, I will probably be recommending they run backstage pass tours and editathon events - so look out for that too :-) Sincerely, -Liam / wittylama p.s. I'm also doing a Masters in IP law this year - because the world needs more Copyright lawyers! :-P Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Sydney wiki dinner on Wednesday?
Hi all, Sorry for th late notice, but a Ben Smith, who is a French Wikipedian [[User:benjism89]] is visiting Australia with two friends and wants to meet up for dinner in Sydney on Wednesday. So... Open invitation to all wiki-folk who are in/can get to Sydney! He's staying near Sydney Uni, so: Meet at 7pm at the upstairs bar of the Marlborough Hotel (also known as the Marley bar) which is about halfway between Sydney Uni and Newtown Train station: http://maps.google.com.au/?q=Marlborough+Hotelcid=4363433616880529583 From there we'll have a drink and then chose a restaurant. Please forward this to anyone who you think would be interested. -Liam ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Australians in the Elsevier boycott
Nice :-) I really like The Conversation too. Scholarly opinion on current issues, non-profit and Australian - it makes an excellent reference source for Wikipedia :-) It's also using a Creative Commons license which is great [cc-by-ND, but that's better than all other media sources!]. -Liam Wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata On 15/02/2012, at 17:22, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Hot off the press https://theconversation.edu.au/academics-line-up-to-boycott-worlds-biggest-journal-publisher-5384 There are now 99 Australians of 5961 in the Elsevier boycott. (up from 1.61% to 1.66%) The following Australians have added their name since my last email: Martin Asplund, Australian National University Astronomy Astrophysics Space Science Lee Bain, James Cook University Arts and Humanities Simon Batterbury, University of Melbourne Social Sciences Chris Bigum, Griffith University Social Sciences Gilad Bino, University of New South Wales Biology Julie Clutterbuck, Australian National University Mathematics Chris Cole, ACT Health Medicine Peter Coles Lois Collins, La Trobe University Physics Linda Connor, University of Sydney Social Sciences Gillian Cowlishaw, University of Sydney Social Sciences Thomas Faunce, Australian National University Earth and Planetary Sciences Robert Fisher, University of Sydney Social Sciences Fabrizio Frati, University of Sydney Computer Science Chris Gregory, Australian National University Arts and Humanities Gernot Heiser, University of New South Wales Computer Science Jonathan Hunt, University of Queensland Biology Matthew Hynd, University of Queensland Biology Hamish Ivey-Law, University of Sydney Ivan Kassal, University of Queensland Physics Ramzan Khan, University of Western Australia Statistics Michele Lancione, University of Technology of Sydney Social Sciences Emmanuel Malikides, Australian National University Physics Rosemary Mardling, Monash University Astronomy Astrophysics Space Science Richard A. Marschall, Macquarie University Engineering and Technology Dana McKay, Swinburne University of Technology Computer Science Arno Mullbacher, Australian National University Medicine Jay Nair, University of Queensland Biology Stefan Nekvapil, Australian National University Physics Rebecca Parker, Swinburne University of Technology Social Sciences Martin Raynor, Australian National University Physics Shaun Sandow, University of New South Wales Medicine Chunhua Shen, University of Adelaide Engineering and Technology Philip Smart, University of Melbourne Austin Hospital Douglas Stebila, Queensland University of Technology Computer Science LIsa Stefanoff, University of South Australia Social Sciences Nick Thieberger, University of Melbourne Arts and Humanities Deon Venter, University of Queensland Medicine Andrew White, University of Queensland Physics Amanda Wise, Macquarie University Social Sciences David Wood, University of Melbourne Mathematics Kerry Mills, Food Standards Australia New Zealand Biology Here are the current per-institution stats 14 Australian National University 9 University of Melbourne 9 University of Sydney 8 University of Queensland 7 University of New South Wales 7 Swinburne University of Technology 5 University of Adelaide 5 Monash University 4 Macquarie University 4 James Cook University 4 University of Tasmania 3 University of Western Australia 3 Griffith University 3 RMIT 2 La Trobe University 1 Flinders University 1 University of South Australia 1 Bond University 1 Queensland University of Technology 1 University of Technology of Sydney 2 Museum Victoria 1 Queensland Museum 1 Food Standards Australia New Zealand 1 Bureau of Meteorology 1 ACT Health 1 Parenting Research Centre And per discipline 16Social Sciences 15Biology 14Physics 9Mathematics 9Arts and Humanities 9Computer Science 6Medicine 4Astronomy; Astrophysics; Space Science 3Engineering and Technology 3Statistics 3Chemistry 1Arts and Humanities 1Earth and Planetary Sciences 6Other -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: Stakeholder meeting to coordinate response re proposed football codes' amendment to Copyright Act
Anyone interested in going to this (Sydney, Tuesday 10-12:30)? This was sent to me (and presumably everyone else on their database) by the Australian Digital Alliance - who are worried about the government making kneejerk amendments to copyright law that will hider internet innovation, as a result of this: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-01/optus-wins-landmark-sports-broadcast-case/3805976 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-10/afl-appeals-optus-copyright-ruling/3823430 I'll be going along, but just in case anyone else wishes to attend. Please reply to them directly if you want to go (and tell me so we can meet up) :-) -Liam -- Forwarded message -- From: *Ellen Broad* Date: Friday, 17 February 2012 Subject: Stakeholder meeting to coordinate response re proposed football codes' amendment to Copyright Act Dear Liam, Two weeks ago, the Federal Court ruled that time shifting provisions in the Copyright Act covered consumers using a cloud based personal video recording service. The service in question before the Federal Court was Optus’ TV Now Service, which allows Optus customers to use all kinds of devices (tablets, smartphones, notebooks and computers) to record broadcast television “in the cloud” and play it back within a particular time frame.** ** By now, you have probably seen the recent media reports that the government is considering urgent amendments to the Copyright Act to respond to sporting bodies' concerns about the Federal Court’s decision. The Australian Digital Alliance and many other stakeholders have serious concerns that any hasty government action in response to the decision could have significant negative implications for *innovative services, cloud computing* and perhaps most importantly, *consumer rights *to use copyright exceptions to the full extent intended by Parliament. ** ** Any watering down of the Federal Court's decision will likely significantly restrict the ability of consumers to use innovative technologies to consume legal content in the time and manner of their choosing. Without great care, any amendments could also have serious consequences for education, library and cultural institutions whose students and users exercise rights under the Copyright Act such as fair dealing. We understand that a proposed amendment to the Copyright Act to alleviate the concerns of the football codes is imminent. ** ** The ADA would like to invite you to a meeting to share information and concerns about any amendments to overturn the Court's decision, and to coordinate a strategic response to government to express the widest possible range of user concerns about any hasty legislative change. Given the urgency of the need to coordinate a response to government, the meeting will be held this *Tuesday 21 February* from 10am – 12:30pm in Sydney. The venue will be confirmed later today. I’d appreciate it if you could let me know if you’re able to attend as soon as possible. I apologise for the short notice, but understand that it may be critical to raise stakeholder concerns with government as a matter of urgency. Kind regards, ** ** Ellen Broad *Ellen Broad** *|* Executive Officer *Australian Digital Alliance |** Copyright Adviser | Law and Policy Australian Libraries Copyright Committee *t* (02) 6262 1273 | *e *ebr...@nla.gov.au | *w* www.digital.org.au | *a* PO Box E202 Kingston ACT 2604 ** ** ** ** -- *About the Australian Digital Alliance (ADA)* The ADA is a non-profit coalition of public and private sector interests formed to promote balanced copyright law and provide an effective voice for a public interest perspective in the copyright debate. ADA members include universities, schools, consumer groups, galleries, museums, IT companies, scientific and other research organisations, libraries and individuals. Whilst the breadth of ADA membership spans various sectors, all members are united in their support of copyright law that balances the interests of rights holders with the interests of users of copyright material. ** ** ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Tambo wikipedia training
Hi all again, Following up on this email from the other day - thank you everyone who helped out by editing the article Tambo, Queensland. The attendees of the training session were really stunned by the speed of changes to their town's article. Check out the difference! http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tambo%2C_Queenslanddiff=481642645oldid=481621026 (we've got a whole bunch of pics to come to add to Commons too). Today, both Whiteghost.ink and I (plus our two colleagues from the State Library of Queensland) are in the even more remote town of Quilpie - at their local library (google streetview: http://g.co/maps/pdvey ). This is two hours west of Charleville - almost got run over into by an emu on the drive out here yesterday arvo too! I should also add that we're doing our bit to counter the gender-gap: every single person in *both* training sessions so far have been women. As with Tambo, today we're focusing on the article about the town itself to describe how WP Commons works: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quilpie,_Queensland (we're also looking at the other varieties section of the article about Opal because boulder opal is the town's major industry and there's currently no description specifically about that type http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opal#Other_varieties_of_opal) So We'd like to ask your assistance again: Could everyone who has the time give a once-over of the article about Quilpie? We'd love to surprise the group by showing them how the article has developed over the course of the day. We've got it up on screen right now - so... go! :-) Sincerely, Liam / Wittylama wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata On 13 March 2012 13:01, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, user:whiteghost.ink and I are currently in Tambo - a very small town in Central QLD - giving some Wikip/media training to the local heritage group, librarians, and other interested folks from the district. This is part of Wikimedia Australia and the State Library of Queensland's partnership to bring Wikipedia to regional Australia. We've been talking a lot this morning and explaining policies etc. and we're going to spend the arvo working on the article about the town itself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tambo,_Queensland (We'll also be uploading a bunch of photos of the town and district later today). We'd really appreciate it some people could go into the article and give it a good workover in the next couple of hours - so we can demonstrate how responsive the community is :-) It's a stub article now, and we've just added a bit of a structure to it, so it's a bit lacking in online reliable sources, but I'm sure someone can come up with some funky templates etc. :-) In a couple of days we'll be in the equally remote town of Quilpie - so we'll give you a buzz then (don't go editing it now!) Oh - and 10 points to user:mattinbgn for being so quick off the mark to welcome the user account that we've been working with on the big screen! Cheers, Wittylama and Whiteghost.ink -- wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Tambo wikipedia training
Final follow-up from Whiteghost.ink and myself, Thanks all who helped out during the day (both days actually) so we could demonstrate changes to the audience. Especial thanks to Mattinbgn, MarkHurd, Salka, JJ Harrison, and ShiftChange. The four of us (two librarians, two wikimedians) are now heading back to Charleville and then flying back to Brisbane tomorrow morning. There'll be more photos of our own loaded to Commons over the weekend. And now, back on the road! -Liam/ Wittylama Whiteghost.ink wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata On 15 March 2012 11:07, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all again, Following up on this email from the other day - thank you everyone who helped out by editing the article Tambo, Queensland. The attendees of the training session were really stunned by the speed of changes to their town's article. Check out the difference! http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tambo%2C_Queenslanddiff=481642645oldid=481621026 (we've got a whole bunch of pics to come to add to Commons too). Today, both Whiteghost.ink and I (plus our two colleagues from the State Library of Queensland) are in the even more remote town of Quilpie - at their local library (google streetview: http://g.co/maps/pdvey ). This is two hours west of Charleville - almost got run over into by an emu on the drive out here yesterday arvo too! I should also add that we're doing our bit to counter the gender-gap: every single person in *both* training sessions so far have been women. As with Tambo, today we're focusing on the article about the town itself to describe how WP Commons works: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quilpie,_Queensland (we're also looking at the other varieties section of the article about Opal because boulder opal is the town's major industry and there's currently no description specifically about that type http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opal#Other_varieties_of_opal) So We'd like to ask your assistance again: Could everyone who has the time give a once-over of the article about Quilpie? We'd love to surprise the group by showing them how the article has developed over the course of the day. We've got it up on screen right now - so... go! :-) Sincerely, Liam / Wittylama wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata On 13 March 2012 13:01, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, user:whiteghost.ink and I are currently in Tambo - a very small town in Central QLD - giving some Wikip/media training to the local heritage group, librarians, and other interested folks from the district. This is part of Wikimedia Australia and the State Library of Queensland's partnership to bring Wikipedia to regional Australia. We've been talking a lot this morning and explaining policies etc. and we're going to spend the arvo working on the article about the town itself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tambo,_Queensland (We'll also be uploading a bunch of photos of the town and district later today). We'd really appreciate it some people could go into the article and give it a good workover in the next couple of hours - so we can demonstrate how responsive the community is :-) It's a stub article now, and we've just added a bit of a structure to it, so it's a bit lacking in online reliable sources, but I'm sure someone can come up with some funky templates etc. :-) In a couple of days we'll be in the equally remote town of Quilpie - so we'll give you a buzz then (don't go editing it now!) Oh - and 10 points to user:mattinbgn for being so quick off the mark to welcome the user account that we've been working with on the big screen! Cheers, Wittylama and Whiteghost.ink -- wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Release of archival video from the ABC
Hi All, As some of you may have seen on the WMF blog, yesterday I had the pleasure to announce the first ever free-license release of content from the ABC - a few dozen historically significant archival videos as part of their broader 80th birthday celebrations. Here's the announcement: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/03/25/abc-joins-wikimedia-in-sharing-historic-footage/ You can find the files themselves on Commons at Files from the Australian Broadcasting Corporationhttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Files_from_the_Australian_Broadcasting_Corporationand you can see their current uses in WP articles on the toolserver [2]https://toolserver.org/%7Emagnus/glamorous.php?doit=1category=Files+from+the+Australian+Broadcasting+Corporationuse_globalusage=1ns0=1show_details=1 . You may remember that about 9 months ago I posted here informing folks that a few of us in Sydney would be meeting with the ABC to talk about starting to work together. This announcement is the first results of that meeting! Long time coming, but worth it for this unique Australian footage. It's also a fantastic precedent to show to other broadcasters (in Australia and overseas) - especially publicly funded ones. I'm also expecting to see a few more files approved to upload in the next week or two (that didn't quite work their way through the ABC permission process in time for the launch). Hopefully this pilot project will be successful in their eyes and will lead to more content donations in the future and other interesting relationships between the ABC, Creative Commons and Wikimedia. Sooo Ta Da! :-) -Liam p.s. I've also posted this on the AWPNB. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Australian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#ABC_donation_of_Video wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] AFACT v iiNet high court appeal delivered - iiNet WINS
For the copyright geeks, the AFACT v. iiNet high court appeal was just published - and was unanimously dismissed! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFACT_v_iiNet_Ltd This is a HUGELY important precedent as it says iiNet did NOT authorise copyright infringement by its users. You can read the judgement summary on the High Court website here http://www.hcourt.gov.au/publications/judgment-summaries/2012-judgment-summariesand the full judgement will be published on AustLII shortly. http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/2012/ Woo Hoo! -Liam wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] CSIRO and Wireless LAN
Hi all, I've been informed by the National Museum of Australia that they're really interested in helping to make sure that the important Australian connection to the history of Wireless LAN https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_LANand IEEE 802.11 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11 is covered - because currently it's not mentioned at all. There's a little bit in Wifi#Historyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wifi#Historyand also a section at Commonwealth_Scientific_and_Industrial_Research_Organisation#802.11_patenthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_Scientific_and_Industrial_Research_Organisation#802.11_patentbut I'm not sure that's sufficient. Basically, I reckon that the WLAN and 802.11 articles seem to be overly US-centric. Please advise if you'd like me to put you in touch with a relevant person at the NMA to help gather sources, but for a start here's their collection highlight record about CSIRO's contribution to the development of WLAN see: http://www.nma.gov.au/collections/highlights/csiro_wlan_collection. Sincerely, -Liam wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] CSIRO and Wireless LAN
I'm just the messenger :-) I've had some people write back offlist who are interested to work with the curators on improving the quality of the articles (irrespective of national pride :-) ) so we'll see how that pans out. -Liam wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata On 16 May 2012 04:26, bidgee-w...@virginbroadband.com.au wrote: Liam if you had of looked at the history and talk page of the CSIRO, you would find that there has been disputes over WiFi due to US editors wanting to be US centric. It isn't going to change while you have editors who object to the fact. Not a simple issue of adding the content. On Tue, 15 May 2012 03:02:59 +, Liam Wyatt wrote: Hi all, I've been informed by the National Museum of Australia that they're really interested in helping to make sure that the important Australian connection to the history of Wireless LAN [1] and IEEE 802.11 [2] is covered - because currently it's not mentioned at all. There's a little bit in Wifi#History [3] and also a section at Commonwealth_Scientific_and_**Industrial_Research_** Organisation#802.11_patent [4] but I'm not sure that's sufficient. Basically, I reckon that the WLAN and 802.11 articles seem to be overly US-centric. Please advise if you'd like me to put you in touch with a relevant person at the NMA to help gather sources, but for a start here's their collection highlight record about CSIRO's contribution to the development of WLAN see: http://www.nma.gov.au/**collections/highlights/csiro_**wlan_collectionhttp://www.nma.gov.au/collections/highlights/csiro_wlan_collection [5]. Sincerely, -Liam wittylama.com/blog [6] Peace, love metadata Links: -- [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Wireless_LANhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_LAN [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**IEEE_802.11https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11 [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Wifi#Historyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wifi#History [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Commonwealth_Scientific_and_** Industrial_Research_**Organisation#802.11_patenthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_Scientific_and_Industrial_Research_Organisation#802.11_patent [5] http://www.nma.gov.au/**collections/highlights/csiro_** wlan_collectionhttp://www.nma.gov.au/collections/highlights/csiro_wlan_collection [6] http://wittylama.com/blog __**_ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.**org Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-lhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Creative Commons Australia update
Hi All, Just a bit of an update on some of the things that Creative Commons Australia are up to that are related to Wikimedia... 1. A couple of weeks ago I believe it was Russavia who was asking about the Australian War Memorial (AWM) given commons was working out how to deal with many deletions of their content from Commons due to not being in the PD in the US -- due to URAA. I've had a bit of a chat and they're apparently having some internal meetings to re-investigate their stance on what they do when they own the relevant IP to content - and CC-BY is specifically on the table as an option. So that's great. Even so, It'll take a fair amount of time for any formal policy change to happen even if everything goes our way. Watch this space... [these meetings are not 'in response to the URAA' but just conveniently timed]. 2. I'm in late-stage talks with the National Museum of Australia (NMA) to donate about 50 images of objects currently on display in their collection - CC-BY at 100pixels (and also hopefully a TIFF quality aerial shot of the museum itself). This will be their first foray into Creative Commons so I'm quite happy. They're currently just making sure all the metadata is ready, the captions are checked by the curators, and approval for this gets checked by various managers (given it's their first time using CC). 3. This Friday morning CC-Australia is hosting a general intro to the cultural sector (and anyone else really) about Creative Commons in Melbourne. http://creativecommons.org.au/ccmelb2012 Myself and some other folk are presenting. Feel free to register and come along if you're interested/able (though I think anyone on these lists is already very familiar with how CC works :-) ) Steven Z - would you be happy my sending any GLAMs your way who are interested in talking to a Wikimedian locally? 4. After this the CC team is meeting with Museum Victoria to help them over the line to adopt CC for their collection database and other parts of their IP. This discussion is about halfway between the AWM and the NMA in terms of its progress. 5. Last night I went to a public lecture hosted at UTS (Sydney) called New Models for Copyright Law Reform and run by the University of Melbourne http://www.ipria.org/events/seminar/2012/CopyrightLawReform/CopyrightReform.htmlThe Chair of the proceedings was Jill McKeogh who is the commissioner of the forthcoming Australian Law Reform Commission's review of the Copyright Act. The presenters (Dan Hunter and Julian Thomas) spent a good proportion of their talks discussing how the Wikipedia Blackout against SOPA/PIPA was so influential and important. They also argued that the copyright lobby's insistence on 'commercial-incentives being the only justification for creators' was basically bollocks. You could practically hear the copyright maximalists in the room grinding their teeth (and they were all there - including reps. from AFACT, the various collecting societies, the Copyright Council...). I spoke briefly with Commissioner McKeogh afterwards and she said she was very interested in receiving submissions that are from organisations who are not the usual suspects [I'm paraphrasing, not quoting!]. So... I highly recommend that Wikimedia Australia (perhaps in collaboration with others) make a submission when the call is published - which should be soon. http://www.alrc.gov.au/inquiries/copyright (although, the review's ability to do anything will be limited by the scope the TPP and ACTA trade agreements http://www.zdnet.com.au/acta-tpp-limit-scope-of-copyright-review-339339620.htm- the author of this article was also at the seminar). Personally, I'll be making a short, private submission focusing specifically on getting a statutory provision equivalent to the bridgeman v. corel precedent included in the Copyright Act. 6. Tomorrow myself and some other CC folks are meeting with the ABC in Sydney to followup on the donation a few months ago of those 20 videos https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Files_from_the_Australian_Broadcasting_CorporationWe're presenting metrics on use etc. and seeing what stage 2 might look like. 7. Finally, I was invited to speak a couple of weeks ago at the State Library of NSW's hosting of the State reference librarian's networking group meeting http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/services/public_libraries/networking/index.htmlThey've been hearing about the progress at the QLD regional Wiki training program that Wikimedia Australia's been running over the last few months and are quite interested to undertake a similar project across regional NSW. Which is awesome. Their Chair has written about this and I've forwarded it on to JohnVdB. So, sorry for the omnibus email, just though I should keep everyone in the loop :-) Hope everyone's well, -Liam wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Creative Commons Australia update
Quick followup to this... Thanks to the several folks who've contacted me offlist with ideas/contacts - I'll be in touch. There's a small but important correction to the National Museum section: we're talking about 1,000pixelwidth images, not 100 as I initially wrote. :-) Also, Cas Liber - your post today about the Royal Botanic Gardens image collection sounds really promising! Please tell me if I and/or Creative Commons Australia can be of assistance there. Cheers, -Liam On Wednesday, 13 June 2012, Liam Wyatt wrote: Hi All, Just a bit of an update on some of the things that Creative Commons Australia are up to that are related to Wikimedia... 1. A couple of weeks ago I believe it was Russavia who was asking about the Australian War Memorial (AWM) given commons was working out how to deal with many deletions of their content from Commons due to not being in the PD in the US -- due to URAA. I've had a bit of a chat and they're apparently having some internal meetings to re-investigate their stance on what they do when they own the relevant IP to content - and CC-BY is specifically on the table as an option. So that's great. Even so, It'll take a fair amount of time for any formal policy change to happen even if everything goes our way. Watch this space... [these meetings are not 'in response to the URAA' but just conveniently timed]. 2. I'm in late-stage talks with the National Museum of Australia (NMA) to donate about 50 images of objects currently on display in their collection - CC-BY at 100pixels (and also hopefully a TIFF quality aerial shot of the museum itself). This will be their first foray into Creative Commons so I'm quite happy. They're currently just making sure all the metadata is ready, the captions are checked by the curators, and approval for this gets checked by various managers (given it's their first time using CC). 3. This Friday morning CC-Australia is hosting a general intro to the cultural sector (and anyone else really) about Creative Commons in Melbourne. http://creativecommons.org.au/ccmelb2012 Myself and some other folk are presenting. Feel free to register and come along if you're interested/able (though I think anyone on these lists is already very familiar with how CC works :-) ) Steven Z - would you be happy my sending any GLAMs your way who are interested in talking to a Wikimedian locally? 4. After this the CC team is meeting with Museum Victoria to help them over the line to adopt CC for their collection database and other parts of their IP. This discussion is about halfway between the AWM and the NMA in terms of its progress. 5. Last night I went to a public lecture hosted at UTS (Sydney) called New Models for Copyright Law Reform and run by the University of Melbourne http://www.ipria.org/events/seminar/2012/CopyrightLawReform/CopyrightReform.htmlThe Chair of the proceedings was Jill McKeogh who is the commissioner of the forthcoming Australian Law Reform Commission's review of the Copyright Act. The presenters (Dan Hunter and Julian Thomas) spent a good proportion of their talks discussing how the Wikipedia Blackout against SOPA/PIPA was so influential and important. They also argued that the copyright lobby's insistence on 'commercial-incentives being the only justification for creators' was basically bollocks. You could practically hear the copyright maximalists in the room grinding their teeth (and they were all there - including reps. from AFACT, the various collecting societies, the Copyright Council...). I spoke briefly with Commissioner McKeogh afterwards and she said she was very interested in receiving submissions that are from organisations who are not the usual suspects [I'm paraphrasing, not quoting!]. So... I highly recommend that Wikimedia Australia (perhaps in collaboration with others) make a submission when the call is published - which should be soon. http://www.alrc.gov.au/inquiries/copyright(although, the review's ability to do anything will be limited by the scope the TPP and ACTA trade agreements http://www.zdnet.com.au/acta-tpp-limit-scope-of-copyright-review-339339620.htm- the author of this article was also at the seminar). Personally, I'll be making a short, private submission focusing specifically on getting a statutory provision equivalent to the bridgeman v. corel precedent included in the Copyright Act. 6. Tomorrow myself and some other CC folks are meeting with the ABC in Sydney to followup on the donation a few months ago of those 20 videos https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Files_from_the_Australian_Broadcasting_CorporationWe're presenting metrics on use etc. and seeing what stage 2 might look like. 7. Finally, I was invited to speak a couple of weeks ago at the State Library of NSW's hosting of the State reference librarian's networking group meeting http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/services/public_libraries/networking/index.htmlThey've been
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Request for media contact - Sydney Wikipedian
Just had a little flurry of DM tweets with him. He works for Sydney local ABC radio (AM 702) and noticed how the biography of Cyclist Alexander Vinokourov https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Vinokourov was updated with the olympic victory before he'd even dismounted. They're thinking of using that as a hook to lead into a little story about how the WP community curates content, keeps up to date etc. (the usual how do you do it kind of story) with a little added local angle of what's the Sydney Wikipedia community like?. They may, or may not, do this for tomorrow morning's show. I'll advise if there's anything further :-) -Liam wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata On 30 July 2012 10:27, Gnangarra gnanga...@gmail.com wrote: saw it earlier but as I'm not in Sydney I suggested he contact WMAU On 30 July 2012 18:12, Robert Myers bid...@me.com wrote: Noticed it as well. Not in Sydney and well Not that talkative. Ruled me out. ;) On 30/07/2012 8:05 PM, Charles Gregory wrote: Sorry - didn't realised this bounced earlier due to me sending from the wrong address! -- Forwarded message -- To: wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:28:10 +1000 Subject: Request for media contact - Sydney Wikipedian Hi everyone, I noticed this pop up on twitter this morning: https://twitter.com/matthewbevan/status/229763424983343104 Is anyone interested? Regards, Charles ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing listWikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- GN. Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com Gn. Blogg: http://gnangarra.wordpress.com ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] pre-proposal proposal
This is certainly a reason for the status quo (I'm not saying it's a good or bad reason, just that it is one that is true) but from recollection the *primary* reason we locked editing when first creating the Chapter's Wiki was as an incentive for membership of the Chapter. We quickly realised that join us because you'll get the right to edit the wiki wasn't an enticing proposition, but the rule never changed. wittylama.com Peace, love metadata On 29 November 2012 16:58, Gnangarra gnanga...@gmail.com wrote: From memory one of the orignal reasons for putting a restriction in place was there is unlikely to be sufficient ongoing monitoring to enable a free for all access by restricting editing to known accounts ie known people limited such issues. As the wiki is for WMAU to work on WMAU activities there wouldnt be any need for an open access any one can edit process without the person first being known/identified to the committee anyway. On 29 November 2012 12:16, Peter Musings thepmacco...@gmail.com wrote: If we start to get edits on the chapter wiki which would be more appropriate for another project, it'd be nice to engage a little with these people, I think, it's an appropriate role for the chapter, I reckon. Seems to me that even the relatively low bar of having to request an account isn't ideal - would a commitment to general wiki maintenance on my part encourage you to 2nd the proposal, Mark? (I don't think a 2nd really needs much more than a willingness to give it a go - it needn't be too big a deal.) best, Peter., PM. On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Mark Hurd markeh...@gmail.com wrote: The current situation is almost the free for all you request, except that 99% of the non-spam requests are really for editing Wikipedia, not Wikimedia Australia. -- Regards, Mark Hurd, B.Sc.(Ma.)(Hons.) On 29 November 2012 12:39, Peter Musings thepmacco...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Here's a pre-proposal proposal for a modest change to the WMAU wiki - I'd like to suggest a trial of completely open registrations - ie. allow anyone so inclined to create an account without any approval required, and edit away. Perhaps editing of the homepage, and associated templates is restricted in some way, but other than that, I can't think of many arguments against that add up to us not giving it a go - in short, if it's horrible, we can just return to the current setup. If you're a member, and you'd like to remove the 'pre' from this proposal, please indicate whether or not you'd be willing to 'second' it; http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/User:Privatemusings/Open_Wiki#Open_Wiki Thanks All :-) ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- GN. Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com Gn. Blogg: http://gnangarra.wordpress.com ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] [wmau:members] Outstanding grant request
For those of us not on the committee (neither this year nor last year), could you point us to the text of the grant request you're referring to? I'm assuming it's public given that you've cc'd both the general Australia list and the Chapter members' list. -Liam On 3 December 2012 15:12, Laura Hale la...@fanhistory.com wrote: Hi, I appreciate the current committee's new energy. We have a grant request dating to early October that Craig told us we had that we told the foundation about how great wm-au's support of the Paralympics has been. We're still waiting on this. It is really important because we believed the board member who told us we had it and acted accordingly in terms of spending. Did I mention, we've currently done almost everything we said we would do for that grant by now? Hopefully, the new board can be more responsive than the previous ones. If the board has contacted me about this in the past four weeks , I have not received the email. Please continue to follow up with me until you get a response as I said in a precious email a board member sent me about this before the elections, I have not received them. This is really, really important. Sincerely, Laura Hale -- mobile: 0412183663 twitter: purplepopple blog: ozziesport.com ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Outstanding grant request
That may very well be - but if no one who's not on the committee knows about this request, and it's not published somewhere, then there's little advantage to copying us all in to the discussion since we don't know what you're referring to. Am I right in assuming that the request is not available for the rest of us to look at or did I misunderstand the issue? -Liam On 3 December 2012 15:56, Laura Hale la...@fanhistory.com wrote: The committee was sent it. WE've been sending follow up e-mails pretty reguarly and have not gotten a response. I'm sure the board can share details. We were promised the money by Craig. I can tell you, that unlike the ARC research linkage grant, there are no commercial aspects to it and it goes directly to supporting the Foundation's mission. We are supporting on and building on the fantastic work that was done in London. On Monday, December 3, 2012, Liam Wyatt wrote: For those of us not on the committee (neither this year nor last year), could you point us to the text of the grant request you're referring to? I'm assuming it's public given that you've cc'd both the general Australia list and the Chapter members' list. -Liam On 3 December 2012 15:12, Laura Hale la...@fanhistory.com wrote: Hi, I appreciate the current committee's new energy. We have a grant request dating to early October that Craig told us we had that we told the foundation about how great wm-au's support of the Paralympics has been. We're still waiting on this. It is really important because we believed the board member who told us we had it and acted accordingly in terms of spending. Did I mention, we've currently done almost everything we said we would do for that grant by now? Hopefully, the new board can be more responsive than the previous ones. If the board has contacted me about this in the past four weeks , I have not received the email. Please continue to follow up with me until you get a response as I said in a precious email a board member sent me about this before the elections, I have not received them. This is really, really important. Sincerely, Laura Hale -- mobile: 0412183663 twitter: purplepopple blog: ozziesport.com -- mobile: 0412183663 twitter: purplepopple blog: ozziesport.com ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Lets talk about the 2013 Annual Plan...
Tony, I'm a bit confused here... From what I can see you're the one who reply-all'd to Craig's initial email, and then in that last email you also included multiple contact details. Can you clarify? -Liam On Tuesday, 11 December 2012, Tony Souter wrote: I wasn't aware that my name and my private email address would be published in your recent reply on the public list. Not happy. Why are those on the public list not simply encouraged to provide feedback on the public list? On 11/12/2012, at 10:58 PM, Craig Franklin wrote: Hi All, As you may be aware, at the recent AGM, the members of Wikimedia Australia approved our annual plan, but also directed the committee to revise and adjust the plan to a more modest state with a view to applying for Round 2 funding from the FDC, early in the new year. With that in mind... what sort of revisions and feedback do you have for us? Obviously I can't promise to satisfy every single person but I'm interested to feel the pulse and see what people generally speaking are thinking. The only thing I can promise is that if you don't provide any feedback, then I won't be able to consider it! If you're not comfortable replying in a public setting, I'm happy to consider any comments put forward in private emails as well. Cheers, Craig Franklin Treasurer - Wikimedia Australia *___* *Tony Souter* **Fixed-line phone: +612 9310 1474 *Mobile: 0450 717627 (+61450 717627), but usually not switched on *Skype: tonysouter *Street address: 291 Chalmers St, Redfern 2016, Australia* -- wittylama.com Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Sue Gardner interview on ABC Radio
It was recorded by the ABC, SLQ was just the venue. So, no free license possible. -Liam On Friday, 15 February 2013, K. Peachey wrote: Perhaps we should find out from the SLQ what license that is under, If its under a decent license It might be worthwhile uploading it to commons (in the appropriate format) On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonew...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: Alternatively you can play back the recorded video on Ustream: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/29236225 ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- wittylama.com Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] State Library NSW website advice
I should add that one of the major reasons why they are wanting to particularly work with us now, and why they are doing these mini focus groups to ask about different types of audience is that they are just starting a MAJOR digitisation program - http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/about/projects/digital_excellence/index.html Which is great news for people like us :-) wittylama.com Peace, love metadata On 25 February 2013 08:08, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Australian lists, and Cultural partnerships list, I've been invited to give a presentation to the staff of the State Library of NSW next month, as part of a series of presentations to the (relatively) senior staff by different key audience groups about how that group uses the library services. It's a bit like a one-man focus group. For those not from Australia - this is the country's oldest public library and has an unrivalled collection of original materials about the early history of the country. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SLNSW They also are starting to get very active in Wikipedia themselves: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/SLNSW I have been asked to talk about how the typical Wikimedian would use their services and how it could be improved. Whatever the typical wikimedian is... 1) I would appreciate if anyone could send me through any thoughts that they already have about using the State Library of NSW (online or offline) and I will convey them. 2) I would very much appreciate user storieshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_story about what YOU, as a Wikimedian, do with YOUR library - and how YOUR library makes this easy/hard. 3) Equally, if you want to have a play with their website, and send me your thoughts, here it is: Main page: http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/ Manuscripts and images catalogue: http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/search/ SimpleSearch.aspx [book] catalogue here: http://library.sl.nsw.gov.au/search/ Personally, my initial thoughts are to talk about things like: - image licensing and access policies/fees (copyright etc.) - difficulty of citation of original materials (do I use the 'digital order number', the 'call number', the URL etc?) But I'm very very interested in hearing what YOU do and what YOU would like to see from a major library, in the idea world, about how they could serve us as an audience. Sincerely, -Liam ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Australian Wikipedian in Residence
As someone who has been working with Whiteghost.ink in the GLAM space in Sydney, with the SLNSW specifically, and in a wide variety of other ways for many years, I am extremely happy and proud of this announcement! In a way it is the payoff from having the first ever GLAM-Wiki conference in Canberra back in 2009 (that's my claim at least!) I'm not forgetting the great work with WiR that has happened in other libraries around the world, significant ongoing collaboration projects with other libraries in Australia, and Wikimedia Australia's ongoin relationship with the Paralympic commission (including the associated WiR there). However, being a Sydneysider whose first love is History means that I have a strong affinity for the Library, its collections and its cultural status. So, it is fantastic that across the whole country it should be the first GLAM to have a Wikipedian-in-Residence in the country! Congratulations :-) Liam / Wittylama On Friday, 22 March 2013, G. White wrote: Dear Australian Wikimedian and Cultural Partnerships teams, I'm extremely pleased to announce that this week I started as Wikipedian-in-Residence at the State Library of New South Wales (SLNSWhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Library_of_New_South_Wales), which is our oldest library and has a collection of global importance, including significant rare books, manuscripts and objects. It is a place to which almost every Australian scholar would pay homage. This is the first time there has been a Wikipedian-in-Residence in an Australian cultural institution and it has it has taken some time to work through the administrative processes to establish the position. As some of you know, Wikimedia Australia has been doing a lot of work with libraries locally. Most recently we were the major sponsors at the annual librarians conference and over the last couple of years we have been travelling to regional areas to deliver training to the local librarians (in partnership with several of the State Libraries). SLNSW also has a partnership with the National Library in Canberra, which is digitising Australian newspapers and linking the records back to the respective Wikipedia articles (examplehttp://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/title/35). Most significantly is that the SLNSW has been been building up a strong relationship with us recently and myself and other local Wikimedians have been delivered several training workshops to an in-house team of librarians who are contributing references and content to Wikipedia as part of their day-to-day work (project pagehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/SLNSW). You can see there that a lot of the content we've been targeting for the team to write is the articles about the newspapers that have now been digitised. My WiR position reports to the Leader of the library's Innovation Project (Mylee Joseph, cc'd here), who is the instigator of that team. Since my term as WiR is for one day a week over 14 weeks, and the scope of work is excitingly ambitious, it is this team that will make it possible to achieve what one part time Resident could not. They are a keen and capable group. The Residency has been established to provide training, coaching, guidance, specialist advice to staff, evaluation of related projects as well as assistance with process mapping and benchmarking so that other Australian libraries can benefit from SLNSW's experience. In terms of content, as well as the newspapers, my Residency is likely to be involved in work on articles on the The 100 Objects Exhibitionhttp://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/events/exhibitions/2010/onehundred/100-objects/, indigenous and original materials, convict women, convict artists, the crossing of the Blue Mountainshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_Blaxland#Blue_Mountains_expeditionand Australia's involvement in World War I. I am glad this group has paved the way and am very excited about the possibilities before us! I will post updates here and in the This Month in GLAM report. I will also probably come here to ask questions and seek feedback and help. I hope that the process mapping and benchmarking would also be useful to similar projects elsewhere. Whiteghost.ink -- wittylama.com Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: [trove-announce] Trove Evaluation Survey - Your chance to help us improve Trove!
Hi All, Some of you may have already received this email, but for those that havn't ... The team behind Trove, the single search system for Australian library content (which notably includes the digitised newspapers collection that many of use use for WP footnotes) has just initiated a major user-survey. It would be really really useful if we could make sure that the needs of Wikimedians are represented in the data that comes up in the analysis! As you may know, Trove has recently hired a Director - Tim Sherratt (who many of you may know as @Wragge) - who is heavily engaged in Digital Humanities, openAPIs and many other things along those lines. His formidable job will be to take the results of this survey as the the to do list for the forthcoming year. While there's been a steady increase in the content available (new newspapers are added all the time) there is an increasing list of bugs and features that are awaiting prioritisation. This survey will help sort out what different kinds of usergroups there are and what those groups most need. So, please go here and respond! http://iquestion.completemr.com/Q219867/ -Liam [Full disclosure, Trove includes content from a variety of institutions across the country but it is physically based at the National Library - where I now am employed as the social media coordinator.] wittylama.com Peace, love metadata -- Forwarded message -- From: Mark Raadgever mraad...@nla.gov.au Date: 16 May 2013 10:22 Subject: [trove-announce] Trove Evaluation Survey - Your chance to help us improve Trove! To: trove-announce-l trove-annou...@listserver.nla.gov.au Help us improve Trove and win a Coles Myer voucher or a Trove T-shirt The National Library of Australia has commissioned a research company, Gundabluey Research, to help us evaluate customer satisfaction with Trove. You're invited to participate in this survey by following the link below. Your participation will contribute to the ongoing development and improvement of the Trove service. The online survey will take around 15 minutes to complete depending on your experience, and every completed survey goes into the draw for one of ten $100 Coles Myer vouchers or one of 20 Trove T-shirts. Whether you're a new or experienced user, an academic or a family researcher, or just use Trove to pursue your interests, we would appreciate your time. Your comments will remain confidential. If you have any questions about the survey itself, or require assistance please do not hesitate to contact the research company directly: * Sarah Wrigley from Gundabluey Research on 03 9844 2678 or sarahw@ gundabluey.commailto:sar...@gundabluey.com If you would like to check the bonafides of the survey, please contact Rosemary Turner on rtur...@nla.gov.aumailto:rtur...@nla.gov.au Please follow this link to start the survey: http://iquestion.completemr.com/Q219867/ Regards The Trove Support team ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] OSM in Australia
I don't suppose anyone can point me to a community leader of Open Street Map in Australia (ideally in Canberra)?? I'm looking to get some OSM events set up during the National Library's major exhibition later this year about historic maps. -Liam -- wittylama.com Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: Copyright e-news | Discussion Paper released!
Dear Aussie mailing lists, I'm forwarding below the email from the Australian Law Reform Commission ( ALRC) - Copyright Review. The announcement today is that after several months of reading the initial submissions, they are now releasing their discussion paper on what ideas they're thinking of reforming in the Australian copyright system. I think it's EXTREMELY interesting that the ALRC is recommending that Australia drop lots of specific exceptions that have built up over the years and replace it with a broad, flexible, fair use principle that is effectively parallel to what the US has. This would be a MAJOR shift in our copyright system, one that gave SIGNIFICANTLY more flexibility and power for the end-users. I think you can get an indication of how upsetting to the existing copyright industry this change would be given they've *already* gone on record to say that fair use is unfair http://au.artshub.com/au/newsprint.aspx?listingId=195592 I made a submission to the review at the round-1 stage, but since then I've taken up a position in the Australian Public Service working for the National Library (which would be directly affected by this policy change). As such, it wouldn't be proper for me to personally be involved making another submission. I can only say that the ALRC's recommendation WILL be aggressively fought by the copyright industry. If the recommendations are going to be adopted (which would be after the next federal election) there would need to be an equally strong argument made of the *economic value* that more flexible copyright exceptions would bring to Australia. These changes wouldn't make a lot of difference to Wikimedia projects directly, it's true, but Wikimedians are very well knowledgeable in the specific flexibility that fair-use can bring compared to the current, much more stringent exceptions we currently have such as research and study, parody and satire and the Statutory License for educational copying (part VB). I would suggest that Wikimedia Australia solicit the views of its members and local Wikimedians and, having come to a consensus, make its own submission or, more simply, co-sign a submission from another like-minded organisation. You have 2 months to do this. Sincerely, -Liam / Wittylama -- Forwarded message -- From: ALRC w...@alrc.gov.au Date: 5 June 2013 05:07 Subject: Copyright e-news | Discussion Paper released! To: Liam liamwy...@gmail.com ** [image: ALRC Copyright Inquiry e-news]http://alrc.us1.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=0ac682945224f85fa1d89d148id=9bf85dfcb8e=10eaeeb611 5 June 2013 It's here! Discussion Paper now available The *Copyright and the Digital Economy* Discussion Paper is now available, marking the second phase of broad public consultation for this Inquiry. The Discussion Paper contains 42 questions and proposals regarding reform of the *Copyright Act*, including the introduction of a broad, flexible exception for fair use of copyright material and the consequent repeal of many of the current exceptions, with a view to making Australia’s copyright regime more flexible and adaptable. The Discussion Paper is available on the ALRC website in html and PDF, and also as an ebook. See *media release*http://alrc.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=0ac682945224f85fa1d89d148id=7978fa0804e=10eaeeb611 See *Discussion Paper*http://alrc.us1.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=0ac682945224f85fa1d89d148id=4f701ab4c6e=10eaeeb611 Make a submission We strongly encourage individuals and organisations to make submissions in response to this Discussion Paper and, in so doing, contribute to the law reform process. These submissions are crucial in helping us develop final recommendations. It is helpful if comments address specific questions or proposals in the Discussion Paper. The closing date for submissions is *Wednesday 31 July 2013*. An online submission form will be available at the ALRC website in a week or so. We prefer to receive submissions via the online form, but also accept submissions by post and email, preferably in Word format. Find out more about *making a submission.*http://alrc.us1.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=0ac682945224f85fa1d89d148id=790ff650f5e=10eaeeb611 Connect [image: email]Follow us on Twitterhttp://alrc.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=0ac682945224f85fa1d89d148id=0890b74a20e=10eaeeb611 [image: email]Find us on Facebookhttp://alrc.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=0ac682945224f85fa1d89d148id=ebfb9afd15e=10eaeeb611 [image: send to friend] Forward to a friendhttp://us1.forward-to-friend.com/forward?u=0ac682945224f85fa1d89d148id=b07c5b1419e=10eaeeb611 Dates 29 June 2012 Terms of Reference received 20 August Issues Paper call for subs 16 November Closing date for submissions 5 June Discussion Paper call for subs 31 July Closing date for submissions 30 Nov 2013 Final Report delivered to Attorney-General Links - Terms of
[Wikimediaau-l] WP citations in NLA/Trove
As many of you know, the National Library and its Trove service include a WP citation code in the cite this drop down in all search results (along with permalink, and various standardised footnoting styles). At the Library we are currently in the midst of a very broad tech and database integration process - part of which is revisiting what kinds of citations are useful where. I'm going to a meeting next week to discuss where the WP citation sits within this and I'd really appreciate some feedback: 1) What effect does the Visual Editor have on the provision of this kind of code. Is it even useful anymore to provide pre-filled wiki markup? 2) Which kinds of results are useful to have this service provided, and which are irrelevant? I believe the best use-case is for individual newspaper articles within Trove. However, I believe that there is little/no value in providing this service for individual book results in the NLA catalogue search (because WP just wants the ISBN, not the fact that it's in any individual library's collection). However - what about manuscripts, music scores, unpublished collections of personal papers, digitised maps Is it useful to have this service provided in those circumstances? -Liam / Wittylama (In this case I'm asking from my professional capacity as employee of the NLA) -- wittylama.com Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] WP citations in NLA/Trove
Thanks Mark, Nick, Gideon, In response to your points thus far, (and others - please send me any responses you have too!) The general gist, if I can put it this way, is the current cite code is working, don't fix it until it's broken. Which is good to hear :-) This answers my question no.1, but I'd be interested in feedback about question no.2 as well - which kinds of records in both the Trove and NLA search results would be actually useful for having this citation code appear. For example - here http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/2540625 is the NLA catalogue reference for Harry Potter book 1. Clicking 'cite this' pulls up a WP code as well. My educated guess is that this code (and the equivalent in Trove) is neither useful for the NLA nor for WP. Am I right in this? Are newspaper articles the ONLY time wikimedians will use this citation code, or are there other cases that are beneficial (e.g. unique materials in the NLA that have no ISBN)? Mark, with regards to the formatting (underscores, capitalisation) this is something that I believe Grahame has already submitted a comprehensive series of bug reports for to the Trove team. The issue there is not so much the citation system itself but Trove's record naming structure and, more generally, the long list of higher priority bugs that are not as easily manually worked-around. As for the clipboard issue - this is a clear way of summarising my primary concern, thanks for framing it so neatly. I've subsequently asked it in those terms over on Mediawiki.org too. Nick, thank you too. WRT some ability to make uploads of images more direct might be cool - but as Gnang says, many of the files available in Trove aren't actually from the NLA and also many are in copyright (so a blanket system wouldn't be appropriate). -Liam wittylama.com Peace, love metadata On 7 August 2013 10:01, Nick Dowling nick_dowl...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Liam, I've used Trove for quite a few articles. In response to your questions: 1) Given that experienced Wikipedia editors are still mainly using wiki code, and will probably do so for some time, the pre-filled wiki mark up remains very useful. 2) I agree that this functionality is mainly useful for newspaper articles and the like. Something to support uploads of images into Commons would also be very useful, but would be less-used I suspect. I hope that's helpful. Regards, Nick -- Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 12:07:17 +1000 From: liamwy...@gmail.com To: wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimediaau-l] WP citations in NLA/Trove As many of you know, the National Library and its Trove service include a WP citation code in the cite this drop down in all search results (along with permalink, and various standardised footnoting styles). At the Library we are currently in the midst of a very broad tech and database integration process - part of which is revisiting what kinds of citations are useful where. I'm going to a meeting next week to discuss where the WP citation sits within this and I'd really appreciate some feedback: 1) What effect does the Visual Editor have on the provision of this kind of code. Is it even useful anymore to provide pre-filled wiki markup? 2) Which kinds of results are useful to have this service provided, and which are irrelevant? I believe the best use-case is for individual newspaper articles within Trove. However, I believe that there is little/no value in providing this service for individual book results in the NLA catalogue search (because WP just wants the ISBN, not the fact that it's in any individual library's collection). However - what about manuscripts, music scores, unpublished collections of personal papers, digitised maps Is it useful to have this service provided in those circumstances? -Liam / Wittylama (In this case I'm asking from my professional capacity as employee of the NLA) -- wittylama.com Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] WP citations in NLA/Trove
Nicely spotted Mark. Thanks. wittylama.com Peace, love metadata On 7 August 2013 12:48, Mark Hurd markeh...@gmail.com wrote: I just want to point out a slight variation on the cites provided by these two URLs: http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/5811404 http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/163116758?versionId=13644 compared to the newspaper one: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/71368302 Note how the former two actually suggest their wikipedia cite may need adjusting. I think that would be perfect for the last one too. Obviously, linking to the Template: page like the first does would be a nice to have :-) -- Regards, Mark Hurd, B.Sc.(Ma.)(Hons.) ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Bushfire Wikipedia interview
Good morning :-) I've just been called by the producer for ABC702 morning show (presenter is Linda Mottram) and asked to talk on radio sometime between 10 and 10:30 about Wikipedia's errors, how we improve the contet etc, etc, - in the context of the recent bushfire / Greg Hunt story in the media. I can obviously talk about how we get better and that we don't pretend to be perfect and that we encourage people to check the footnote and make their own assessment... But can someone please advise on the best way to phrase how the specific article [[Bushfires in Australia]] appeared last week and what has changed? I see there is a climate change section - was that already there a few days ago? (I can check the history when I get to the office, on my mobile at the moment, wanted to write to you straight away). Any advice, ideas? I recall there being a userspace proposal on the chapter wiki - can someone point me to that again and advise if you think it's appropriate for me to try to quote? Sincerely, -Liam -- wittylama.com Peace, love metadata -- wittylama.com Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Bushfire Wikipedia interview
Thanks for that rundown Charles. To clarify, has the specific climate
change discussion and section appeared *subsequent* to this media
controversy or was it there beforehand?
(Still on my mobile)
-Liam
On Friday, October 25, 2013, Charles Gregory wrote:
From what I can see - quick summary:
- Before October 8 there were only sporadic changes;
- Between the 8th and 23rd, there was
- a paragraph added to say the worst had been in Victoria, with
examples;
- addition of the Warrumbungie Bushfire (Jan 2013), 2013 New South
Wales bushfires including references to all bushfires in the Hunter,
Central Coast, Port Stephens, etc (17 Oct 2013)
- a See also to [[Angry Summer]] and an external link to a map of
bushfires
- minor copyediting
On the 24th:
- a few lines added to a lede paragraph referring to climate change
and its affects on bushfire - including references to CSIRO, a random
personal URL, and an article published at The Conversation.
- a new section on climate change - 3 paragraphs - including
references to The Climate Institute, The Climate Commission, Bushfire CRC,
CSIRO, and an article at The Guardian.
- minor copyediting
Regards,
Charles
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Liam Wyatt
liamwy...@gmail.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'liamwy...@gmail.com');
wrote:
Good morning :-)
I've just been called by the producer for ABC702 morning show (presenter
is Linda Mottram) and asked to talk on radio sometime between 10 and 10:30
about Wikipedia's errors, how we improve the contet etc, etc, - in the
context of the recent bushfire / Greg Hunt story in the media.
I can obviously talk about how we get better and that we don't pretend to
be perfect and that we encourage people to check the footnote and make
their own assessment... But can someone please advise on the best way to
phrase how the specific article [[Bushfires in Australia]] appeared last
week and what has changed? I see there is a climate change section - was
that already there a few days ago? (I can check the history when I get to
the office, on my mobile at the moment, wanted to write to you straight
away).
Any advice, ideas? I recall there being a userspace proposal on the
chapter wiki - can someone point me to that again and advise if you think
it's appropriate for me to try to quote?
Sincerely,
-Liam
--
wittylama.com
Peace, love metadata
--
wittylama.com
Peace, love metadata
___
Wikimediaau-l mailing list
Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
'Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org');
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
--
wittylama.com
Peace, love metadata
___
Wikimediaau-l mailing list
Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Bushfire Wikipedia interview
Phew! Done. Not sure if they will podcast it and put it online, but what I basically said was to quote the *new* lede section that refers to C.C. and point out that we're thankful for the amount of attention drawn to the article and the topic as this causes it to increase in quality. I then reeled off the range of organisations that are now cited related to C.C. I tried to steer it quickly away from isn't the Minister silly for doing this kind of things because I wanted to focus on how TO use it properly and also to not look like I'm criticising the gov't (public servant talking here after all). I tried to emphasise that we're all volunteers but not sure if that cut-through. I mentioned several times that the quaility is article-by-article and we ask people to interrogate their sources - whether it's WP or anything else - and the 'proper' use depends on what you're doing with the info. I talked about how the more controversial the topic the more likely it is to improve and be neutral because of the number of eyeballs on it. I wasn't expecting her to mention the National Library, and was going to tell the producer to cut that from the intro in order to differentiate my volunteer and my public-servant roles, but they put me straight online without the chance to say. So, at the end she basically gave me a free shot to promote the library (so, what are you doing at the National Library?) as a kind of quid pro quo - so I used it to spruik our forthcoming exhibition Mapping our World. It would have been remiss of me not to use that opportunity but I was trying to keep the two separate. The last couple of times I've done radio interviews I got a call from other ABC local stations a few hours later asking if I could do a repeat interview, so that might happen again today. Thank you everyone for your quick help giving me backup on this. As Charles asked - Yes, I'm very happy to do these kinds of things and always happy to promote our mission to a wider audience. I'm not actually listed on any contact us pages (e.g. here https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_room ) but I think I must be in the system somewhere in the ABC tagged under Wikipedia :-) All the best, -Liam wittylama.com Peace, love metadata On 25 October 2013 10:24, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you everyone. I'm on hold now - going live any second. http://www.abc.net.au/sydney/programs/listenlive.htm wittylama.com Peace, love metadata On 25 October 2013 10:20, G. White whiteghost@gmail.com wrote: Correction:* The Conversation*'s tagline is academic rigour, journalistic flair. This politician was quite disigenuously trying to use WP as a source of popular view to give credence to his own political stance. But WP helpfully and neutrally provides both the politician's view AND the scientific view. Readers can make up their own minds about whose opinion is more relevant to the issue under discussion. Whiteghost.ink On 25 October 2013 10:07, G. White whiteghost@gmail.com wrote: I heard that comment on radio and immediately added a balancing ref to a scientific opinionhttps://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?shva=1#label/The+Conversation/141dca106db92c85n that was published in *The Conversation* (an online journal of expert views in easy-to-understand language, or as they put it academic excellence, journalistic flair). This was followed by a ref to a more comprehensive report. Then a little while later a section on climate change was added. I don't think that the demographics of WP are relevant here. The points to make about this, I think, are these: - the politician using WP the way he did only referred to the first lead paragraph without reading or noting the following summary qualifiers that show the complexity of the matter. - WP provides this this complexity if you pay attention to it and read it properly; - the ongoing improvements show the continuous updating; - the usefulness is being able to find easily, for example, BOTH an easy to read scientific view AND a detailed report. A good reader service, really. Whiteghost.ink On 25 October 2013 09:52, Kerry Raymond kerry.raym...@gmail.com wrote: Younger editors are more likely to be defending against vandalism than adding content (as a gross generalization) Sent from my iPad On 25/10/2013, at 9:49 AM, Kerry Raymond kerry.raym...@gmail.com wrote: I think that's a largely anecdotal depiction of WP editors. The 2011 survey showed average age of editors was 31 but that older editors made more contributions than younger ones. The survey showed about 90% male. It showed above average education levels and did not ask if they were interested in military history (although I agree with you that military history does seem to be well-covered in WP, but then so are episodes of Seinfeld). I don't recall if it asked about location or languages spoken. I do recall another study that concluded in the western English
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Interesting story in today's press
Aloha from Hawaii!
I'm at an Internet cafe so must be brief.
I too would like to see us 'weigh in' on the matter of the copyright review
and as some of you may recall I made a submission to the initial
round myself (specifically relating to faithful reproductions of 2D PD
artworks).
I would be very happy to see WMAu to send in a 'we support what the ADA
said' submission.
Tell me if I can help in this matter because Trish is based at the National
Library and I see her almost daily.
-Liam
On Tuesday, 12 November 2013, Kimberlee Weatherall wrote:
Hi guys,
Great! No doubt you’re in touch with Trish at the ADA, but I’ve forwarded
this on to her as well for coordination purposes.
Kim
*KIMBERLEE WEATHERALL* | Associate Professor
Faculty of Law
* THE UNIVERSITY OF SYDNEY*
*T *+61 2 9351 0478 | *F* +61 2 9351 0200 | *M* +61 403 762 544
*From:* wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:_e({},
'cvml', 'wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org'); [mailto:
wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
'wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org');] *On Behalf Of *Tony Souter
*Sent:* Tuesday, 12 November 2013 10:14 PM
*To:* Wikimedia Australia Chapter
*Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Interesting story in today's press
Producing a position paper that the ADA can use would be one of the most
significant things the chapter ever did. Assistance from other Wikimedians
might be forthcoming if messages are posted (by the committee) on mailing
lists asking for advice after a draft is written.
Some of Australia's copyright restrictions are ridiculous and
unsustainable.
Please think of what the strategy would be. At a guess, analysing any ADA
proposal, setting out how draconian some aspects of Australian copyright
law are compared with those in the US (e.g. no fair use), and organising
WMAU members to lobby on social media etc.
Tony
On 12/11/2013, at 7:28 PM, Andrew Owens wrote:
http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/why-creating-memes-is-illegal-in-australia/story-fnjwmwrh-1226758121774
The Australian Digital Alliance is pushing for a fair use amendment to
the Copyright Act. Is there anything WMAu and its supporters can do to
get on board with it?
kindest regards
Andrew
___
Wikimediaau-l mailing list
Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
'Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org');
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
--
wittylama.com
Peace, love metadata
___
Wikimediaau-l mailing list
Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] AGM results
Congratulations to the new team, and thank you to the former team. Especial
thanks to Craig for your consistent professionalism and hard work over the
term of your presidency.
Best,
-Liam
On 23/11/2013, at 5:41 PM, Steve Zhang wrote:
I want to thank everyone who supported my candidacy. I look forward to
working with the rest of the new committee in moving our organization
forward.
Steven Zhang
President - Wikimedia Australia
On 23/11/2013 5:30 PM, Craig Franklin
cfrank...@halonetwork.netjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
'cfrank...@halonetwork.net');
wrote:
Congraulations from me as well. I'm confident that this group is the
right group to move the chapter forward, and I wish them the very best of
luck for the coming year.
Regards,
Craig Franklin
Andrew Owens said:
Dear members and community,
Firstly, thank you for the opportunity to serve again after a two-year
absence from the committee. I hope that I will be able to fulfil your
expectations :)
Congratulations to Steven Zhang, who has been elected president of
Wikimedia Australia for the 2013-14 term and to other members, all of
whom were returned unopposed, and listed below:
* Gideon Digby - Vice President
* Andrew Owens - Secretary
* Michael Billington - Ordinary Member
* Charles Gregory - Ordinary Member
* Pru Mitchell - Ordinary Member
* Robert Myers - Ordinary Member
The new committee will need to fill the role of Treasurer - no-one
stepped forward at the AGM, so a vacancy was declared.
Watch this space - we will be looking for ideas and opportunities to
move forward.
kindest regards
Andrew Owens
Secretary
Wikimedia Australia
___
Wikimediaau-l mailing list
Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
'Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org');
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
___
Wikimediaau-l mailing list
Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
'Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org');
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
--
wittylama.com
Peace, love metadata
___
Wikimediaau-l mailing list
Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] WP training at NLA last week
On Friday, user:Aliaretiree and user:Rubicon49bce (Mylee and Katherine from the State Library of NSW) and myself did a full-day training workshop at the National Library for representatives of each of the other State Libraries in Australia. This is part of the project to write articles about digitised newspapers in Trove. The event was under the auspices of the annual 'Australian Newspapers Plan' consortium meeting (a committee of all the state libraries to coordinate their newspaper collecting/preservation). WP event project page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia :GLAM/State_Library_of_New_South_Wales/NSLA_Training_November_2013 This training session was significant not only in terms of the fact that there are a couple of trained Wikipedia editors among the staff of each state/territory library now, but also because this was the culmination of the SLNSW Wikipedia project (which included the Wikipedian In Residence with user:Whiteghost.ink earlier in the year). The project was always hoping to be able to develop enough skill and confidence within the SLNSWthat editing WP became part of 'business as usual' for their staff, and that they could then train other state libraries too. So, to sit up the back of the room and watch two of my former 'students' deliver their own WP training day was brilliant! Thanks especially to user:99of9 (Toby, also one of the original SLNSWtrainers) for helping out remotely during the day and over the weekend in ensuring the articles we created were given the once-over and all our new users were welcomed. You can see the practical results of the day, in terms of new users and new articles created, here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia :GLAM/State_Library_of_New_South_Wales/NSLA_Training_November_2013#Trainees [note there are two articles currently sitting in the 'articles for creation' queue and one is currently being debated for deletion. If people could weigh in on those that would be helpful]. Sincerely, -Liam / Wittylama p.s. On a side note - here at the NLA we just had a public guest talk by user: edsu (Ed Summers) from the Library of Congress. He spent basically the entire time talking about how good wikipedia was and why GLAM-Wiki was really important, and showing off some of the visualisation tools he's created to demonstrate that - such as Linkypedia http://wikistream.wmflabs.org/ and Wikistream http://wikistream.wmflabs.org/ You don't often get a better endorsement than that! -Liam wittylama.com Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] each state?
Sats, I'm not sure why you're so cynical about this, but there indeed were people from each state and territory. I never said that the Eastern mainland states were the centre of the universe. You can see from the project page where they came from because they wrote newspaper articles from publications in their own state. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/State_Library_of_New_South_Wales/NSLA_Training_November_2013#Trainees So, user:newspapertas is from tassie, user:sablecrossing is from WA. The other areas you've not mentioned are user:rubyandlilysmum and user:nikki_7619 from S.A. and user:cyclone_sunday from the N.T. You can also see the new newspapers for NSW, VIC, ACT, QLD with their respective trainees. -Liam wittylama.com Peace, love metadata On 3 December 2013 11:53, SatuSuro satus...@gmail.com wrote: Liam ''there are a couple of trained Wikipedia editors among the staff of each state/territory library now,'' you sure about that, it would be usefull to know if that is verifiable (do you have a citation with that?) NSW, VIC, ACT, QLD may indeed be the centre of the universe, its just havent heard who they are in WA or TAS for instance would be useful to know who how why what etc sats from wa ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] WP training at NLA last week
Certainly :-) wittylama.com Peace, love metadata On 4 December 2013 14:44, Gnangarra gnanga...@gmail.com wrote: HI Liam Can I take this to create the basis of a section on the event in https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/November_2013/Contents/Australia_and_New_Zealand_reportwhich is due out in 3 days Cheers Gideon On 2 December 2013 12:20, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, user:Aliaretiree and user:Rubicon49bce (Mylee and Katherine from the State Library of NSW) and myself did a full-day training workshop at the National Library for representatives of each of the other State Libraries in Australia. This is part of the project to write articles about digitised newspapers in Trove. The event was under the auspices of the annual 'Australian Newspapers Plan' consortium meeting (a committee of all the state libraries to coordinate their newspaper collecting/preservation). WP event project page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia :GLAM/State_Library_of_New_South_Wales/NSLA_Training_November_2013 This training session was significant not only in terms of the fact that there are a couple of trained Wikipedia editors among the staff of each state/territory library now, but also because this was the culmination of the SLNSW Wikipedia project (which included the Wikipedian In Residence with user:Whiteghost.ink earlier in the year). The project was always hoping to be able to develop enough skill and confidence within the SLNSWthat editing WP became part of 'business as usual' for their staff, and that they could then train other state libraries too. So, to sit up the back of the room and watch two of my former 'students' deliver their own WP training day was brilliant! Thanks especially to user:99of9 (Toby, also one of the original SLNSWtrainers) for helping out remotely during the day and over the weekend in ensuring the articles we created were given the once-over and all our new users were welcomed. You can see the practical results of the day, in terms of new users and new articles created, here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia :GLAM/State_Library_of_New_South_Wales/NSLA _Training_November_2013#Trainees [note there are two articles currently sitting in the 'articles for creation' queue and one is currently being debated for deletion. If people could weigh in on those that would be helpful]. Sincerely, -Liam / Wittylama p.s. On a side note - here at the NLA we just had a public guest talk by user: edsu (Ed Summers) from the Library of Congress. He spent basically the entire time talking about how good wikipedia was and why GLAM-Wiki was really important, and showing off some of the visualisation tools he's created to demonstrate that - such as Linkypedia http://wikistream. wmflabs.org/ and Wikistream http://wikistream.wmflabs.org/ You don't often get a better endorsement than that! -Liam wittylama.com Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- GN. Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com Gn. Blogg: http://gnangarra.wordpress.com ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] opportunity
It's a fantastic idea, and nice work Gnang finding it and bringing it to everyone's attention. I recall back for the Wiki10 (10th anniversary of Wikipedia celebrations) the WMF tried desperately (but in vain) to get an antartic research group to host a party in order that there could be a party on every single continent. Certainly a letter of support from the Chapter should be submitted in association with any applicant. Ideally the applicant would not only be taking lots of gorgeous photos but also be able to provide some kind of bridge between the WP editing community and the scientists down there - to help increase a) the quality of texts about antarctic geography, science and history, but also to increase the awareness and skills of the science community down there in potentially their becoming editors themselves. -Liam wittylama.com Peace, love metadata On 14 January 2014 12:36, Kerry Raymond kerry.raym...@gmail.com wrote: Having been to the Antarctic back in 1996, I would certainly say to anyone “go for it”! How cool it would be to be (pun intended) to be the first Wikimedian in Residence in Antarctica. Kerry -- *From:* wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Gnangarra *Sent:* Monday, 13 January 2014 8:50 PM *To:* Wikimedia-au *Subject:* [Wikimediaau-l] opportunity There is an opportunity for someone to spend time in Antartica, as photographer I love to be able to do this, as Wikimedian imagine what content you could enhance. For me I it's either 20 years too late or 10 years too soon, given the skills and knowledge of many people here if your able to apply I say go for it... applications close 30 March 2014 so give it some thought... Become the first Wikimedian in Residence in Antartica. http://www.antarctica.gov.au/media/news/2013/antarctic-arts-fellowship-apply-now *I havent brought this matter to the committee but I'm sure if you were to apply WMAU committee would consider requests for supporting documentation where appropriate* Gideon ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Are the Wikimedia projects social media
Yes, Agreed with what Kerry has said. Another way of phrasing that - correct me if you disagree Kerry - is that being social is the currency of social media platforms. It is the end-goal of twitter/facebook/etc and you are more valued on those platforms the more social you are. However on Wikimedia being social is a means-to-an-end. The currency of Wikimedia is good quality output (either in articles, minor-edits, photos, bots, code) and more often than not you are required to be social in the creation of that output. But the crucial difference is that being social is not the end-goal. There is a higher purpose. -Liam wittylama.com Peace, love metadata On 5 February 2014 10:47, Kerry Raymond kerry.raym...@gmail.com wrote: While these are all Web 2.0 (or digital engagement platforms as Liam calls them), there are distinct differences. There is a pretty clear goal to WP and other WMF projects (open knowledge) that we work towards. But Facebook, Twitter etc don't really have an overall goal as such (well, apart from make money for their owners through advertising or whatever) but none from a user perspective. They are more platforms that are predominately used as pastimes, although of course some people may use that platform for a goal of their own (promote a cause or product or whatever). Personally I would describe the WP experience as much less social than Facebook etc. People friend me and like my comments on Facebook, but most of the WP talk interaction is much more critical (and sometimes hostile). The old management saying phrase in public, criticise in private is completely overlooked in the design of WP user talk pages. My experience of some WP projects is that they behave with more of a gang mentality, as in ooh, you've edited a page that's on our turf, so now we'll beat you up, hardly what I would call social. Of course, my Facebook friends are people that I choose to be my Facebook friends and they are predominantly people that I know in real life, whereas I don't know most WP editors (even the subset that write on my user talk page) in real life and have no control over their ability to write on my public user talk page. I'd hesitate to call Wikipedia social media. Kerry -- *From:* wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Liam Wyatt *Sent:* Wednesday, 5 February 2014 9:11 AM *To:* Wikimedia Australia Chapter *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Are the Wikimedia projects social media Hi Leigh, as the social media coordinator at a cultural institution now, I'm simultaneously trying to have Wikimedia seen to be as, if not more, important than other social media platforms but also wary of tying Wikimedia too closely to the term social media because it has a connotation of being simplistic only about 'likes' etc. Therefore, I've been trying to use the phrase 'digital engagement' wherever possible which has a different vibe to it - and an implied different motive (to engage, not merely to be social). Two other concepts that I've used a lot to help define Wikimedia are Brianna Laugher's Community Curated Works (as opposed to User Generated Content), defined here: http://brianna.modernthings.org/article/123/an-alternative-term-for-user-generated-contentand Lori Philips' Open Authority, defined here: http://midea.nmc.org/2012/01/defining-open-authority-in-museums/ Hope that helps. -Liam wittylama.com Peace, love metadata On 5 February 2014 08:08, Leigh Blackall leighblack...@gmail.com wrote: As someone who coined a phrase socially constructed media back in 2004 when everyone was using Web 2 I've been more than a little agitated by the use of social media at the exclusion of the Wikimedia projects. Either ask the stats, commentary and infographics are based on a poorly defined category, or my understanding of the words social and media somehow missed the new speak. Does anyone who knows the inner workings of the Wikimedia projects have an argument for me? I find them to be the MOST social of all the user-generated sites I use. From sharing photos, video and graphics on Commons, constructing reports on News, negotiating courses or documenting research on Versity, or writing on Books... Why does this not warrant more than a mention in the stats, commentary and infographics about social media? Please don't tell me it's a commercial interest thing! ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Jetstar relicences photos under CC-BY-SA
Now that's a pretty damn cool release! Just looking through the flickr stream I can see some pics that we will have no use for (staff Halloween party, anyone?) but a *whole bunch* that we can - individual airframes, maintenance work underway, plane interiors (inc. the cockpit) and fittings, ground equipment, security/emergency drills... Useful for much more than just articles specifically relating to Jetstar itself. I've often advocated to commercial organisations that since the *point* of their taking marketing photos is to get people to use them, making them available to us to potentially use is a big opportunity. While we don't use them in an directly promotional way, surely having *your* product being available to be used as the canonical visual representation of its category on the relevant Wikipedia (in this case for example a Boeing plane painted in your company colours) is a good business-case to make to their marketing and legal teams! Congratulations on making this argument successfully Russavia. wittylama.com Peace, love metadata On 17 March 2014 13:38, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, I have been quite active in recent months in getting photos on Flickr relicenced, and have been quite successful in this. Aside from individual photographers, some of the organisations which have relicenced their photos after my request include Maersk Line, Austrian Airlines, Bahrain International Airport, Brussels Airport, Ecuadorian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Uri Tours (North Korean tour agency), amongst others. These photos are now on Wikimedia Commons. This morning, after months of persistence (using their words), Jetstar Airways, the Qantas low-cost subsidiary, kindly relicenced their photos on their Flickr stream at https://www.flickr.com/photos/jetstarairways/ from CC-BY-NC-SA to CC-BY-SA, thereby allowing the usage of their photos on Wikimedia projects. The airline has also changed its default licence so that future Flickr uploads will be CC-BY-SA. I have taken the liberty of uploading their stream to Wikimedia Commons and their photos are now available at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Photographs_by_Jetstar_Airways. There will, of course, be a lot of categorisation work and cleanup to be done on these images, which I will be getting done. I wanted to take this opportunity to publicly thank Jetstar for relicencing their photos and in turn supporting the free culture movement. Cheers Scotty ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Reliability of WP
Thanks for pointing this out. I just found her on twitter and had a chat. https://twitter.com/AmyAntonio86 Amusingly, and somewhat frustratingly, she wasn't aware that there *are*Wikipedians in Australia, despite having a recent PhD in literature and social media for higher-education... I've pointed her to the AWNB and the chapter websites and told her we'll tell her about any future symposia about WP in higher education. -Liam wittylama.com Peace, love metadata On 27 March 2014 12:01, G. White whiteghost@gmail.com wrote: FYI: Article in today's *The Conversation*: Navigating the online information maze: should students trust Wikipedia? http://bit.ly/1p8PzWu Whiteghost.ink ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
