[Zen] Re: Liberation II

2010-12-22 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
://www.heartchan.org On 12/22/2010 3:24 PM, ED wrote: JMJM, one what? --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming wrote: Indeed. The world is one.

[Zen] Happy Holidays Performance

2010-12-23 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Happy Holiday Wish to Everyone Please watch me perform for you http://kaka.meitu.com/xmas/xmas.php?user=246469 JM -- Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org Current Book Discussion: any Zen

[Zen] Re: Liberation III

2010-12-25 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Hi Mel, As Ed responded, Absolute Equality is a state of being and not a biography, or a personality. It is well documented in Buddhist sutras. All three posts about Liberation is about our inner state of being, and not externally manifested form, which are impermanent and relative at best.

[Zen] Liberation IV

2010-12-25 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Good Morning to Everyone on Christmas Day, Yes, it is easy to talk about Liberation. It is not hard to understand liberation. Yet how do we exactly attain this state of being and maintain it 24/7? I was taught, Liberation is the fourth state after Discipline, Sambodhi, Wisdom. My Teacher

[Zen] Living in the past moments

2010-12-27 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Hi Mel, Almost all of us, including myself, often travels away from the present moment. Sometimes backward and sometimes forward. It is normal, whether our mind is a beginners' mind or an expert mind. Beginner or expert are just labels. Mind still behave like a mind. What we propose is

[Zen] UCSF introduces Chi

2010-12-28 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Good Morning All, For thousands of years, Chi is the foundation of Chinese culture. Chi is the base for Qigong, Taichi, Fengshui, Acupuncture, etc. etc. as well as the base of Chan meditation. Certified Chinese medical doctor will tell you that, based on Traditional Chinese Medicine,

[Zen] Your message to Mel

2010-12-28 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Hi Jerry, Thank you for asking. Counting our breath is what some school teaches. We teach following our breath instead, because the activity of counting requires mental process, which is what needs to be dropped as required by Chan Meditation. Follow the path of our breath in a slow and

Re: [Zen] Re: Your message to Mel

2010-12-28 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Miao Jing Ming wrote: Follow the path of our breath in a slow and continuous fashion. Feel the chi going through our nose, to our throat, into our lung, into our belly. The key is SSDL. (Slow, Soft, Deep and Long). The objective is to be able to breathe about 4 times in one minute

Re: [Zen] Your message to Mel

2010-12-28 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Quite so. Chris. Indeed Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 12/28/2010 10:42 PM, Chris Austin-Lane wrote: On Tuesday, December 28, 2010, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精 wrote:. All you have to do is to stop search outward

Re: [Zen] Re: Your message to Mel

2010-12-29 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
attentive and receptive to your presentations of the Chan Way. --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming wrote: Hi Ed, Well, since my name has mentioned in your post. I thank you for granting me this opportunity. 1. I don't know what Shikantaza is. Sorry. 2. I don't know what

Re: [Zen] 'Chi'

2010-12-29 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Hi Ed, Good question. If you google energy medicine, acupuncture, you may find the answer. It has been around China over 4 - 5,000 years. It is also the foundation of Traditional Chinese Medicine, as per my previous post from UCSF. In short, Chi is what the Chinese call all kinds of

Re: [Zen] Re: Your message to Mel

2010-12-29 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
. :-) Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 12/29/2010 8:22 AM, ED wrote: JM, is your omission of 'Judaism' accidental or intended? --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@... wrote: Well, Ed

[Zen] Liberation IV

2010-12-30 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Good morning to All, My teacher has taught me, To detach from all forms, you shall reach liberation from all sufferings. What exactly is ALL forms? One of the most important one to be detached from is the Form of Practice. Especially seasoned practitioners often fall into a certain pattern, a

Re: [Zen] Re: Not understanding mindfulness

2010-12-30 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Yes, Bill is kind to suggestion Chan meditation. At least, we don't use the word of mindfulness. :-) I would not say that Chan meditation cures OCD. Chan meditation does help you to reduce the frequency and the severity of OCD. We don't have an OCD video, but other video witnesses are

Re: [Zen] Re: Methods of Zen meditation

2010-12-31 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Only a handful I would say, Ed. Thank you for asking. There is a historical reason. 1898, when Japanese introduced Zen to the US in Chicago. China was ruled by emperors. From 1911 to 1949, we had all sorts of civil wars. Then China was split into two in 1946. The mainland obsolete all

Re: [Zen] Re: Not understanding mindfulness

2010-12-31 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Very well put. Joriki Dat Baker. Indeed... :-) Please post more. .. Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 12/31/2010 12:06 PM, Joriki Dat Baker wrote: Dave, mindfulness can be a misunderstood word. The word itself is not a good

Re: [Zen] Re: Mindfulness pt 2

2011-01-01 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
still feel that choosing to feel one may nmeans that you have to ACT. That your actions have consequences that you cannot control, a notion that paralyzes me. Can mindfulness help with that? If so, how? --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺å

Re: [Zen] Re: Mindfulness pt 2

2011-01-01 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Single-minded and whole-hearted --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming wrote: Happy New Year Ed, Propose another word in place of mindfulness is a very challenging task. Let me explain. In the practice and dealing with everyday life, we say Be aware but not attached

Re: [Zen] Mindfulness pt 2

2011-01-02 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
own path and stop worrying about what to call it. Much needs to be done my friends and time is short. Adidaphat! Joriki *From:* Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 mailto:chan.j...@gmail.com *Sent:* Saturday, January 01, 2011 12:02 PM *To:* Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com mailto:Zen_Forum

Re: [Zen] Re: Mindfulness pt 2

2011-01-02 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
the diaphram, and have been doing that for about three years rather irregularly. I really hope this doesn't come off as distrustful! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@... wrote: Dearest Dave, When we suffer, one

Re: [Zen] Re: Mindfulness pt 2

2011-01-03 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Daido loori, and it is a gong followed by 10 minutes of silence completed by another gong. --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@... wrote: Hi Dave P, Great. You are willing to give it a try. Here is the link to my

Re: [Zen] Re: Mindfulness pt 2

2011-01-03 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@... wrote: Good Morning Dave P, Let me explain why gong or timer or any external devices are not recommended for serious Chan practitioners. Because, when there is external dependency, our mind will be anxious

Re: [Zen] Re: Mindfulness pt 2

2011-01-03 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Hi Kristy, I know you meant well. So do I. Instead of getting into scientific or medical discussion, why don't we let Dave breathe for a month and see what happens. Unless you believe breathing would make OCD worse? Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com

[Zen] Fwd: Sharing from WLEF Chan Retreat

2011-01-04 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Good morning to all, WLEF stands for World Leader Educational Foundation, another organization of ours dedicated to develop future world leaders in colleges and universities through the practice of Chan as well as seminars from current world leaders. WLEF is now into about 52 colleges and

[Zen] Chan Tao

2011-01-05 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
, cultivating our chi, is not quite evident in Zen, which is the most natural and effortless way to sync up to the universal wisdom. JM Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 1/5/2011 5:55 PM, Deborah Mingins wrote: To Jue Miao Jing Ming

[Zen] Chan Tao

2011-01-06 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
*From:* Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com *To:* Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com; zenliv...@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thu, January 6, 2011 2:29:57 AM *Subject:* [Zen Living] Chan Tao Hello Deborah, Thank you for your question

Re: [Zen] zen, reality, etc(to Anthony/list)

2011-01-09 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Dear Steve, Thank you for your post. May I ask that you post more in the future. :-) Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 1/9/2011 8:22 AM, SteveW wrote: --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com,

Re: [Zen] Chan -northern and southern schools, mental/spiritual chan, pure body/pure mind

2011-01-09 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
answered clearly to your questions. Do let me know if otherwise. Thank you for asking. JMJM Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 1/9/2011 9:07 PM, taomtnsage1 wrote: To Jue Miao Jing Ming- Could you please share your views

[Zen] Fwd: The art of meditation

2011-01-10 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
You will love it. * * *'The Fly' by Hanjin Song / The Art of Meditation / 2:44 min **http://www.urbandharma.org/dtube/dtube1/fly.html* * *

Re: [Zen] Tao vs Chan, Rid dirty chi, Ultimate Truth

2011-01-10 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
subtitle. Each is about 45 minutes long. Let me know if you need more details. Thank you for giving me this opportunity to share. JMJM Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 1/10/2011 8:14 PM, taomtnsage1 wrote: To Jue Miao Jing

Re: [Zen] Tao vs Chan, Rid dirty chi, Ultimate Truth

2011-01-11 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
as their initiator (truly or not is up to discussion). 'Mizong' is another name for Tantrism, so you are an expert of Tantrism. Tantrism is split into branches. One of them engages in 'sex ritual'. Do you do it? Anthony --- On *Wed, 12/1/11, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 /chan.j...@gmail.com/* wrote

Re: [Zen] Tao vs Chan, Rid dirty chi, Ultimate Truth

2011-01-12 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
. Anthony --- On *Wed, 12/1/11, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 /chan.j...@gmail.com/* wrote: From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Tao vs Chan, Rid dirty chi, Ultimate Truth To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 12 January, 2011, 9:00 AM Yes

Re: [Zen] Differences Tao/Chan, which older

2011-01-12 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
, taomtnsage1 wrote: To Jue Miao Jing Ming- Could you please tell me some of the differences between Tao and Chan. Also, which belief system developed first. Thanks for your help...taomtnsa...@yahoo.com mailto:help...taomtnsage1%40yahoo.com

[Zen] Reincarnation Karma

2011-01-19 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Good Morning To All, Thank you for your invitation to comment on this subject matter. Perhaps I need to mention first what is emphasized over and over in our school is we practice and experience directly. It also means, not to object but detach from description of experiences we are unable to

Re: [Zen] Reincarnation Karma

2011-01-20 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
way.' Amen. Anthony --- On *Thu, 20/1/11, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 /chan.j...@gmail.com/* wrote: From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Reincarnation Karma To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 20 January, 2011, 8:13 AM Hi Anthony

[Zen] Is Chan Buddhist?

2011-01-22 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Good Day To All, My Teacher would say, the Order of Chan is Buddhist, but the witness of Chan is not. Chan is just a nickname for the entire universe, including the visible and the invisible, the energy and its form, the perpetual and the transient, the big and the small, as well as all of

Re: [Zen] Is Chan Buddhist?

2011-01-23 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Gong, is now in the USA. He may knock on your door any moment, and teach you something better than Chan/ Anthony --- On *Sun, 23/1/11, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 /chan.j...@gmail.com/* wrote: From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com Subject: [Zen] Is Chan Buddhist

Re: [Zen] Mindfulness meditation training changes brain structure in 8 weeks

2011-01-24 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Hi Anil, There will be many people in our school be interested in getting a copy of your book. When do you plan to publish it? We also have publishing house in Taiwan, if you are interested to publish it in Chinese. Additionally, we have many professors in similar field, who could help,

Re: [Zen] Is Chan Buddhist?

2011-01-24 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
if people listened to the truth that is already in them, and not so much to teaching of so called, enlighten ones, there would be why more unity in this world. Brett http://www.pbase.com/brett1963 --- On *Sun, 1/23/11, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 /chan.j...@gmail.com/* wrote: From: Jue Miao

Re: [Zen] Mindfulness meditation training changes brain structure in 8 weeks

2011-01-24 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Thank you for your quick response, Anil. Please do send us whatever is convenient for you for our archive, when you are ready. Thanks, JM Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 1/24/2011 8:12 AM, Anil Sahal wrote: It's only going

Re: [Zen] Is Chan Buddhist?

2011-01-24 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
, Anthony Wu wrote: JMJM, You say: Chan has been in China far longer than Shakymuni. Please present proof. Anthony --- On *Mon, 24/1/11, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 /chan.j...@gmail.com/* wrote: From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Is Chan Buddhist

Re: [Zen] Is Chan Buddhist?

2011-01-24 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
. But what do you have in common with Sakyamuni and Bodhidharma or Linji? Did either of them say Chan is equal to the whole universe? Anthony --- On *Mon, 24/1/11, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 /chan.j...@gmail.com/* wrote: From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Zen

Re: [Zen] Is Chan Buddhist?

2011-01-24 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
and belief systems. I feel if people listened to the truth that is already in them, and not so much to teaching of so called, enlighten ones, there would be why more unity in this world. Brett http://www.pbase.com/brett1963 --- On *Sun, 1/23/11, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 /chan.j...@gmail.com

[Zen] Differences in Practice

2011-01-25 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
insert my comments about what I was taught in my Japanese Zen Buddhist training: --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.jmjm@... wrote: Hi Deborah, Thank you for the question. I don't know Zen Buddhism enough to compare in detail. In words, I seem

Re: [Zen] Re: Differences in Practice

2011-01-25 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 1/25/2011 11:07 AM, SteveW wrote: --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.jmjm@... wrote: Thank you Bill. I have learned

Re: [Zen] Re: Differences in Practice

2011-01-25 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
/2011 1:51 PM, SteveW wrote: --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.jmjm@... wrote: No problem, Steve. All comments are valid. All part of Chan. What we teach to reduce that issue, is to divert our focus onto the chakras

[Zen] The detection and transferring of karma

2011-01-25 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Dear All, My Teacher always tells us, You practice and you shall witness. Everything can be witnessed. If you are not able to witness, don't worry. Just continue to practice. But never let your ego dictate your journey. With this stated, I like to share my witness about the detection and

Re: [Zen] Re: Differences in Practice

2011-01-25 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
://www.heartchan.org On 1/25/2011 2:40 PM, SteveW wrote: --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.jmjm@... wrote: Hi Steve, Within a month I hope, we will have a book titled like, 15 steps to benefit from Chan meditation. published

Re: [Zen] The detection and transferring of karma

2011-01-25 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
. So, don't confuse chi with karma. Anthony --- On *Wed, 26/1/11, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 /chan.j...@gmail.com/* wrote: From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com Subject: [Zen] The detection and transferring of karma To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, zenliv

Re: [Zen] Re: Differences in Practice

2011-01-25 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
responses below describing the techniques and practices I was taught, and the expanations of them: --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.jmjm@... wrote: Thank you Bill. I have learned again. There is more in common in practice as well. Now, let me share with you

Re: [Zen] Is Chan Buddhist?

2011-01-27 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Ah, indeed. Everything is originated from the same truth in the first place. Everything must be an expression of the same truth, just in different dresses. Scientist say Big Bang. Christians say God. Buddhist say Buddha. Well?:-) Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can

[Zen] Eightfold Path

2011-02-01 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Thank you, Steve. This is also my observation. The word practice, is translated from two Chinese words and they are trim/cultivate and execute/apply combined. Chan needs to be walked on both legs, because they interact with each other. In Buddhist sutra, the word action is often

Re: [Zen] Zen and Tao.

2011-02-01 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Brett, If you read Xin Xin Ming by the Third Patriarch of Chan, you may find it quite the same to Tao. Osho said, Chan extracts the essence from both Buddhism and Taoism. :-) Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 2/1/2011 7:27 PM,

Re: [Zen] Is Chan Buddhist?

2011-02-02 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Well put, Ed. To be whole - body, mind and spirit -- is the key... Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 2/2/2011 11:58 AM, ED wrote: Bill, Whether the number of steps in the Eightfold noble path is 8 or 800 is not relevant.

Re: [Zen] Buddhist Personality Types

2011-02-04 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Very interesting. Thank you, Steve. :-) Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 2/4/2011 9:12 AM, SteveW wrote: --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Kristy McClain healthyplay1@... wrote: *bows*

[Zen] Scholarly approach

2011-02-05 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Good Morning To You, As a scientist or a scholar, the training is to remain absolutely objective, be an observer and never contaminate the fact in front of us with our own interpretation or subjective filtering. This is well respected and understood. As a Chan practitioner, however, the

Re: [Zen] Scholarly approach

2011-02-05 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
/5/2011 6:41 PM, Chris Austin-Lane wrote: On Saturday, February 5, 2011, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com mailto:chan.jmjm%40gmail.com wrote: Scientists wake up too? Interesting. Thank you Chris. I have learned. I am sure that has happened but that was not my point, which

Re: [Zen] Re: Spock?

2011-02-06 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Perhaps, we can put it this way Each of us are able to learn the wisdom from the unwise, and vice versa Chan is all inclusive. It is us who are lost in all the relativity of forms. At the end, there is only emptiness, yet with exquisite existence. :-) Be Enlightened In This Life -

Re: [Zen] Re: Scholarly approach(to Chris/list)

2011-02-06 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
LOL. Sorry about your feeling nervous. Chan follows the laws of nature. Our journeys are also limited by the laws of nature. Just our descriptions of these journeys can be sometimes inaccurate. Do let me know if any of the phrases I use make you nervous again. Be Enlightened In This Life -

[Zen] Lotus Posture

2011-02-09 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Good morning to all, In our school, we have a practitioner named Dr. Jing Lun Huang. One of his research paper told us, measured through scientific instruments, the chi flow enhanced through acupuncture needle is three times the average speed of a normal flow. Half lotus enhances the chi

[Zen] Lotus Posture Awareness

2011-02-10 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
, or does the awareness come first in your experience? In my case, I didn't have the maturity to really understand, or embrace the practice. It was not until after my car accident and recovery, that I found a deeper understanding. Thanks, k --- On *Wed, 2/9/11, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明

[Zen] Re: Lotus Posture Awareness

2011-02-10 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
accident and recovery, that I found a deeper understanding. Thanks, k --- On *Wed, 2/9/11, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 /chan.j...@gmail.com/* wrote: From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com Subject: [Zen] Lotus Posture To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday

[Zen] Pain

2011-02-12 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Hi Kristy, In Los Angeles, I have known a Shao-Lin Monk, with hair, for about 20 years. He graduated from the Nature's Gate of Shao Lin. I have introduced to him about 40 some people with many different kinds of pain. And usually he cures them within four weeks. And most of these patients

[Zen] Pain Master Liu

2011-02-14 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Hi Kristy, Anthony Mayka, Today is Monday in Los Angeles. I meant to call Master Liu and ask him directly about the credentials of his teacher and his other colleagues. But knowing him for about 20 years, I have second thoughts now. Let me explain. He is a year younger than I am, 64,

[Zen] Experience Merit

2011-02-15 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Good Morning to All, It seems to me that the concept of merit in Buddhism is seldom discussed in the forums that I was involved in. Yet it is a vital concept of our journey. There are quite a few descriptions of merit in the Buddhist sutras. In the Chinese culture, merit is also popularly

[Zen] Fwd: 2011 Retreat Registration

2011-02-16 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Good morning Everyone, Our annual retreat for 2011 is now open for registration. It is in Santa Cruz this year. Please see below. All are welcome to join. Program detail will be announced at a later time. Thank you for your attention. JM Original Message Dear Brothers

Re: [Zen] visualization

2011-02-18 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Well put, Steve. When we dwell on one particular position, we are no longer whole. When place ourselves on every position, or all perspectives, then we no longer have our own. :-) Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 2/18/2011

Re: [Zen] Re: An Article of Interest

2011-02-20 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 2/20/2011 9:38 AM, ED wrote: --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.jmjm@... wrote: Hi Ed, If I may share that, Chan considers all words, opinions and logic illusory and empty in nature. That's a Chan Act of Faith

Re: [Zen] Re: An Article of Interest

2011-02-20 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
One Not TWO :-) Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 2/20/2011 6:16 PM, ED wrote: Dear JMJM, Whatever you experience as true feels like it is true for you. --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙ç

[Zen] Giving in form and formless

2011-02-21 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
there is some to gain...would the gathering of Merit depend on heartfelt giving vs ego-felt giving? --- In zenliv...@yahoogroups.com mailto:ZenLiving%40yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.jmjm@... wrote: Good Morning to All, It seems to me that the concept of merit

Re: [Zen] Pain

2011-02-21 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
of the Shaolin monk;s teacher in Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Hong Kong? The other question is whether the monk can cure the disease that causes pain, such as cancer? Anthony --- On *Sun, 13/2/11, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 /chan.j...@gmail.com/* wrote: From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j

Re: [Zen] Can A Buddha Harm Others?

2011-02-22 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Excellent question. I would love to read everyone's input. Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 2/22/2011 9:26 PM, eugnostos2000 wrote: Hello. I have been following the recent discussions concerning zen, Zen and ethics with

Re: [Zen] Re: Can A Buddha Harm Others?

2011-02-23 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Thank you, Steve. I can't help to smile...:-) Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 2/23/2011 9:49 AM, SteveW wrote: --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, ED seacrofter001@... wrote: --- In

Re: [Zen] Can A Buddha Harm Others?(to ED/Mayka/list)

2011-02-24 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Mayka Dear, Please don't feel that you are alone. Many of us on the forum are with you. I am sure those on the forum who meditates connect with you. I am also somewhat certain those who do not, probably do not. Steve already posted something like, ... there are those wanted to show that

Re: [Zen] Can A Buddha Harm Others?(to ED/Mayka/list)

2011-02-24 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
If I may add some perspectives to Mel's observation below We all know the basic Buddhist practice is simply precepts, meditation, wisdom. It simply means if we can not surpass our habits -- habitual thoughts, habitual life style (the first practice), if we do not meditate (the second

Re: [Zen] Can A Buddha Harm Others?(to ED/Mayka/list)

2011-02-24 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
://www.heartchan.org On 2/24/2011 8:07 AM, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 wrote: If I may add some perspectives to Mel's observation below We all know the basic Buddhist practice is simply precepts, meditation, wisdom. It simply means if we can not surpass our habits -- habitual thoughts, habitual life

Re: [Zen] Can A Buddha Harm Others?(to ED/Mayka/list)

2011-02-25 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
/Rockridge from 1984-1995...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.jmjm@... wrote: Hello Mayka, I completely agree. I said alone because you said, ... no one but Mel responded. I was in Berkeley 1967 - 1972. A true hippie

Re: [Zen] Can A Buddha Harm Others?

2011-02-25 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
to witness the emptiness of all words, talk, discussion, argumentation, preaching, opinionation etc. is decades of shikantaza, yes? --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming wrote: Only when we witness the emptiness in all words, could we then embrace all

[Zen] Can Buddha intentionally harm?

2011-02-25 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Since this question was not directly answered, let me give it a try. About five or six years ago, I was in a restaurant order live fish. (Chinese are barbaric. I know. I know.) As always, the waiter brought one in a basket to obtain my approval. So I nodded. As he turned around toward the

[Zen] What to do?

2011-02-25 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
recommend we do (other than do more zazen) to get the message to really stick? ~ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming wrote: True. Thank you for your reminder, Mel. Dharma is in every moment in life. Buddhahood is accomplished in everyday life. _ !-- #ygrp-mkp { border: 1px

Re: [Zen] Re: Can Buddha intentionally harm?

2011-02-25 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
11:09 AM, SteveW wrote: --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.jmjm@... wrote: Since this question was not directly answered, let me give it a try. About five or six years ago, I was in a restaurant order live fish

Re: [Zen] Re: Can Buddha intentionally harm?

2011-02-25 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
'? Anthony --- On *Sat, 26/2/11, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 /chan.j...@gmail.com/* wrote: From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Can Buddha intentionally harm? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 26 February, 2011, 3:45 AM Hi

Re: [Zen] Re: Can Buddha intentionally harm?

2011-02-25 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
hand, Bill Gates may not feel so deeply but does much good with his philantrophic work. --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming wrote: Since this question was not directly answered, let me give it a try. About five or six years ago, I was in a restaurant order live

Re: [Zen] Re: Can A Buddha Harm Others?(to ED/Mayka/list)

2011-02-25 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
at Michigan State in East Lansing Michigan. I didn't grow long hair until I later in life. I was one a member of a radical faction of FFA (Future Farmers of America). Does that count? ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明

Re: [Zen] Change

2011-02-25 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Hi V, Everyone change. The I ten years ago is not the same as the I twenty years ago. right? The question really is, whether the change is in the direction or timeline as we expected. :-) Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On

[Zen] Realization

2011-03-01 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Hi Mike, According to your witness, is there a practice/way/how to realize? Thanks, JM Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 3/1/2011 2:16 AM, mike brown wrote: ED, Maybe, maybe not. It still stands tho that meditation is not

[Zen] Problems Assumptions

2011-03-02 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
http://www.heartchan.org On 3/1/2011 7:17 PM, ED wrote: JMJM, it appears to me that the source of the problem is in the multitude of speculative assumptions in Chan. --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming wrote: Hi Steve, Enjoyed reading your posts. If I may add

Re: [Zen] Realization

2011-03-02 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
(Buddha) Nature and nothing really needs to be done. Mike *From:* Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com *To:* Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wed, 2 March, 2011 0:38:16 *Subject:* [Zen] Realization Hi Mike

Re: [Zen] Is Enlightenment a process?

2011-03-02 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Hello Mike, My Teacher said the same thing in different words for your reference. Chan is the comprehensive term for the universe. We can witness the same truth of universe through many different ways, such as science, Buddhism, philosophy, Christianity, etc. Recently my Teacher has ask me

Re: [Zen] Realization

2011-03-02 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
awareness of 'I am' is a product of the mind and so we need to go further beyond that to Pure Awareness ; ) where we all share the same (Buddha) Nature and nothing really needs to be done. Mike *From:* Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明

Re: [Zen] Is Enlightenment a process?

2011-03-02 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
, it's a bit of a cliche, I know, but there are many paths and they all lead to the same point. Mike ps How about the 'Universal Comfort Zone of LA? *From:* Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com *To:* Zen_Forum

Re: [Zen] Realization

2011-03-03 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
What does insufferably mean? :-( Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 3/3/2011 4:57 PM, Bill! wrote: ED, You are insufferably analytic!! Stop 'Mindfulness', if used to describe Buddha Mind or Pure Awareness, is not made up

Re: [Zen] Is Enlightenment a process?

2011-03-03 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
and they all lead to the same point. Mike ps How about the 'Universal Comfort Zone of LA? *From:* Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com *To:* Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thu, 3 March

Re: [Zen] Realization

2011-03-04 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
take me too seriously. ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.jmjm@... wrote: What does insufferably mean? :-( Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org

Re: [Zen] Realization

2011-03-04 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
-VAjLjEM9vqEaRpVAemHVnRWK, Jue Miao Jing Ming wrote: What does insufferably mean? :-(

[Zen] Energy of mindfulness

2011-03-06 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
If I may add to this very important post. The key word in this post is the energy of mindfulness and not the definition of mindfulness. Energy is to be felt and difficult to discuss. Once there is energy, everything transforms. If there is no energy, then we are just rationalizing.

[Zen] Some of us..

2011-03-06 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Some of us are awed by the power of digital tools - word, cloud, facebook, twitter, etc. Some of us are happy to learn programs were built from languages such as C++, phython, java, etc. Some of us are delighted to discover these programming languages require Window or Apply OS. Some of us

Re: [Zen] Realization(to JMJM/list)

2011-03-06 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
thinking, but I've been observing well from the sidelines in peace Mel gunnar19632...@yahoo.com.au --- On Sat, 5/3/11, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com wrote: It seems to me, that Steve, Bill, Mike, Mel, Mayka may all aware of your motivation. Just not sure whether you are. Nothing

Re: [Zen] Realization(to Mayka/ED/list)

2011-03-07 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Why, ED? Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 3/7/2011 9:02 AM, ED wrote: Mel, I humbly request that you not include my name in the subject line of a post. Thanks, ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com

Re: [Zen] Realization(to Mayka/ED/list)

2011-03-07 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Just trying to learn about your motivation as you requested. :-) Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 3/7/2011 9:42 AM, ED wrote: Why not, JMJM? --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming wrote: Why, ED? Mel, I

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