Re: [Gimp-user] Printing Problem

2010-11-05 Thread Tom Williams
On 11/05/2010 03:11 PM, redforce wrote:
 Indeed. Please file a bug-report at Ubuntu. We explicitly released a
 fixed version (2.6.11) before the Ubuntu release. The Ubuntu maintainers
 should do their users a favor and update to that release.
 Seems that this has been reported:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gimp/+bug/671229

 Maybe Chad can mark this bug as affecting him.


I just did as well!  :)

Peace...

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing Problem

2010-11-01 Thread Tom Williams
On 10/31/2010 05:11 PM, geoffrey wrote:
 I just installed gimp with Ubuntu 10.10. Simple problem. Any way I try to 
 print, the printer produces a blank sheet of paper.  HPDeskJetPro prints any 
 other program's output. It seems that the package on Ubuntu gets the 2,6.10
 with the cairo software that doesn't work. Have I answered my own question?

 Geoffrey

Gimp 2.6.11 addresses this printing issue:

http://developer.gimp.org/NEWS-2.6

Peace...

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing Problem

2010-11-01 Thread Sven Neumann
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 01:11 +0100, geoffrey wrote:
 I just installed gimp with Ubuntu 10.10. Simple problem. Any way I try
 to print, the printer produces a blank sheet of paper.  HPDeskJetPro
 prints any other program's output. It seems that the package on Ubuntu
 gets the 2,6.10
 with the cairo software that doesn't work. Have I answered my own question?

Indeed. Please file a bug-report at Ubuntu. We explicitly released a
fixed version (2.6.11) before the Ubuntu release. The Ubuntu maintainers
should do their users a favor and update to that release.


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing Problem

2010-10-15 Thread John Culleton
On Thursday 14 October 2010 18:09:18 ChadBJX wrote:
 Chad,
 
 Can you print _anything_ from Gimp?
 
 If you can print a very tiny image, maybe it is a printer memory
  problem.
 
 Sorry, I can't help further.  I don't have Vista and I am sitting
  here happily emailing from Ubuntu.  ;-)
 
 I will have to get Vista soon (for certain software we will be
  required to use), but I will run that under Vmware on the Ubuntu
  (as I do with XP, W2K, Win95, and RedHat Linux, and Unixware!).
 
 Jay

 Hi Jay,
 Thanks for the idea. I was trying to print a fairly large graphic
 file size. Will try a small simple graphic and will also try saving
 as a .jpg instead of Gimp's default format and see if that works
 for me. I'll let you know but it may be a few days until I can get
 back to the forum to let you know. Thanks again.
 I love forums -- You usually get the best answers there.  :)
 Chad

I don't try to use the print capabilities of Gimp, of Inkscape, of 
Krita, of Scribus or whatever. It is easier to save a file (PDF 
anyone?) and print that file out using e.g., Acrobat Reader. 

And now a question. Why are you upgrading to the effectively 
abandoned product Vista? Would not Windows 7 make more sense?
-- 
John Culleton, Wexford Press
Create Book Covers with Scribus $5.95 at
http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html

Free eps format barcode: http://www.tux.org/~milgram/bookland/

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing Problem

2010-10-15 Thread Jay Smith
On 10/15/2010 09:30 AM, John Culleton wrote:
 On Thursday 14 October 2010 18:09:18 ChadBJX wrote:
 Chad,

 Can you print _anything_ from Gimp?

 If you can print a very tiny image, maybe it is a printer memory
 problem.

 Sorry, I can't help further.  I don't have Vista and I am sitting
 here happily emailing from Ubuntu.  ;-)

 I will have to get Vista soon (for certain software we will be
 required to use), but I will run that under Vmware on the Ubuntu
 (as I do with XP, W2K, Win95, and RedHat Linux, and Unixware!).

 Jay

 Hi Jay,
 Thanks for the idea. I was trying to print a fairly large graphic
 file size. Will try a small simple graphic and will also try saving
 as a .jpg instead of Gimp's default format and see if that works
 for me. I'll let you know but it may be a few days until I can get
 back to the forum to let you know. Thanks again.
 I love forums -- You usually get the best answers there.  :)
 Chad

John Culleton wrote:

 I don't try to use the print capabilities of Gimp, of Inkscape, of
 Krita, of Scribus or whatever. It is easier to save a file (PDF
 anyone?) and print that file out using e.g., Acrobat Reader.

 And now a question. Why are you upgrading to the effectively
 abandoned product Vista? Would not Windows 7 make more sense?

CHAD: .jpg is a _lossy_ image file format (even at the highest quality 
setting). 
It is probably not an issue if you are printing to a low-quality printer, but 
be 
aware that _every_ time you save a .jpg, the image quality is lessened.  If for 
some reason you must save/export to .jpg keep the original image and always do 
all editing in the original image.

I don't have any problems printing from Gimp, even to a cheap, low-memory 
ink-jet, but then I am on Ubuntu Linux.

JOHN:  IMHO, the idea of having go through yet another file format (PDF) and 
program (Acrobat) just to print is not an acceptable long-term solution.  I 
have 
had images that I needed to print to a cheap ink-jet printer (because that was 
the only printer available at the time due to service problems) and simply had 
to have a print right now.  Due to the printer's lack of calibration, I had to 
tweak a _copy_ of the image to get colors to come out as needed -- I had to 
print about 12 times to dial it in.  If I had to make a PDF each time, it would 
have taken much, much longer.

Regarding Vista vs Windows 7, etc., I did not write clearly.  I will have to 
install whatever version of Windoze the required software demands.  But it will 
be installed under Vmware Workstation and run under Vmware Player, allowing 
that 
single Windoze instance to be run from any physical workstation on the network.

Jay
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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing

2010-02-22 Thread Norman Silverstone
 snip 

 I'm one of those people who's a hard core open source user and sniffs
 disdainfully at any proprietary solution to achieve my means :) But I
 try not to impose these irrational beliefs on anyone else, especially
 on mailing lists and forums. I'd much rather saddle myself with a
 crappy, generic photo printer of dubious quality than try out software
 that might function perfectly well :)

I do under stand your point of view regarding software and Linux.
 
 But in all seriousness, there are other reasons to get a photo
 printer. My Color LaserJet might be great for documents and graphics,
 but it sucks horribly at printing photos. It can't do border-less
 printing, its colour rendering is inferior, and it costs a fortune in
 toner. A great HP photo printer is only $140 or so and would give me
 better print quality than commercial photo printing companies.
 
I have had a perfectly good colour printer for some years but have
concluded that, for good results and peace of mind at a reasonable cost,
I send my photos to be commercially printed. I agree that there are
reasonably priced printers readily available but the real cost of
printing is in the ink and paper. For example, unless you leave your
printer permanently switched, on every time you start the printer the
procedure at start up uses ink. There are many other things that can
happen such as clogged jets which are difficult to clean and also
consume ink and, unless you buy really good quality inks which are
expensive, you will probably never be really satisfied with the results.

Norman


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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing

2010-02-22 Thread Frank Gore
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Norman Silverstone
nor...@littletank.org wrote:
 I have had a perfectly good colour printer for some years but have
 concluded that, for good results and peace of mind at a reasonable cost,
 I send my photos to be commercially printed. I agree that there are
 reasonably priced printers readily available but the real cost of
 printing is in the ink and paper. For example, unless you leave your
 printer permanently switched, on every time you start the printer the
 procedure at start up uses ink. There are many other things that can
 happen such as clogged jets which are difficult to clean and also
 consume ink and, unless you buy really good quality inks which are
 expensive, you will probably never be really satisfied with the results.

That's very debatable, and depends entirely on the outside lab you use
to get your pictures printed. Most photo labs have printers that only
cover the sRGB gamut or less. For example, all the cheap photo labs
(ie. WalMart, Costco, local pharmacies) use commercial printers that
don't even cover the full sRGB gamut. A 4x6 picture at these places is
usually $0.15 or so, depending on taxes.

Some higher end photo labs (Ritz Camera, Lord Photo, other camera
retail outlets) have a printer that covers the AdobeRGB gamut, but
their software and their lab techs only work in sRGB anyways. They
have their workspace set to sRGB and they usually ignore any embedded
colour space in your files. There's a 50/50 chance they'll either
convert it to sRGB anyways (which minimizes the damage), or they'll
assign an sRGB profile to your picture and ruin the colours in the
process. I recently paid $0.29 at Ritz camera for a single 4x6, which
is twice as much as the places I mentioned above.

Of the professional photo labs, many only work in sRGB. Some work with
AdobeRGB, but these tend to cost more. The result usually looks great,
but they cost significantly more than the camera retail stores. I have
to wait for them to be printed and mailed (more cost), then I have to
get into my big V8 diesel pickup truck and drive to the mailbox to
pick them up, thereby adding yet more cost. If I'm not happy with the
results, too bad for me.

Meanwhile, the high-end photo printers from Canon, HP, Epson et al
cost very little initially, and they tend to cover an even wider
colour gamut than AdobeRGB (closer to ProPhotoRGB in some cases). If I
really care about a photo I'm printing, I can print it myself, see the
results right away, and if I need to make any changes, I can do those
right away and reprint immediately. This is a very nice luxury.

If I have a bunch of pictures to print and their quality isn't
important to me, I'll happily drive over to WalMart and use one of
those self-serve kiosks. It's cheap, it's fast, and the pictures look
fine in my opinion. Not stunning, just fine (as long as I converted
them all to sRGB first and don't mind losing some of the colours). I
can even justify the fuel cost. But if I have a stunning picture that
I spent hours post-processing, I want the luxury of being able to
print it myself. I want the widest colour gamut possible, I want
complete control over the process, and I want to see it immediately.
This is worth the extra cost for me, and I actually find it cheaper
than working with the professional photo labs.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing

2010-02-21 Thread Dick Smith
Using GIMP 2.6, running on Ubuntu Linux, v9.10.  The printer is an HP
Photosmart C5180 on my home network.  I have the hplip printing package
installed.  I've chosen Custom Sizes from the page setup options, choosing
the C5180.

The HPLIP is the latest version available.

Dick

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Noel Stoutenburg mjol...@ticnet.comwrote:

 For starters, what version of GIMP? What platform (WIN, MAC, Linux)?
 What version? Are your drivers up to date? What are you using to print
 from GIMP? What settings are you using in the printer driver, and in the
 interface to the printer driver?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing

2010-02-21 Thread Frank Gore
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Dick Smith dsmit...@gmail.com wrote:
 Using GIMP 2.6, running on Ubuntu Linux, v9.10.  The printer is an HP
 Photosmart C5180 on my home network.  I have the hplip printing package
 installed.  I've chosen Custom Sizes from the page setup options, choosing
 the C5180.

 The HPLIP is the latest version available.

I've never been able to print custom sizes with my HP printer and
HPLIP. Not with Gimp or anything else. Anything other than the
printer's built-in formats results in either cups disabling the
printer, or a messed-up output. My printer is not a photo printer,
it's a business-class network laser printer, so I can't even print
pictures because there are no built-in picture sizes available for me
to choose from. This is despite the fact that my printer has a
built-in card reader and a dedicated picture-printing function. I
can't even select custom sizes on the printer itself, disregarding
HPLIP altogether. I've been contemplating buying a picture printer
specifically for making prints of my pictures without having to drive
to the store all the time.

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Project Manager
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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing

2010-02-21 Thread Norman Silverstone

  Using GIMP 2.6, running on Ubuntu Linux, v9.10.  The printer is an HP
  Photosmart C5180 on my home network.  I have the hplip printing package
  installed.  I've chosen Custom Sizes from the page setup options, choosing
  the C5180.
 
  The HPLIP is the latest version available.
 
 I've never been able to print custom sizes with my HP printer and
 HPLIP. Not with Gimp or anything else. Anything other than the
 printer's built-in formats results in either cups disabling the
 printer, or a messed-up output. My printer is not a photo printer,
 it's a business-class network laser printer, so I can't even print
 pictures because there are no built-in picture sizes available for me
 to choose from. This is despite the fact that my printer has a
 built-in card reader and a dedicated picture-printing function. I
 can't even select custom sizes on the printer itself, disregarding
 HPLIP altogether. I've been contemplating buying a picture printer
 specifically for making prints of my pictures without having to drive
 to the store all the time.

Just a suggestion, have you tried using TurboPrint, a free trial is
available? It may work and is much cheaper than a new printer.

Norman


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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing

2010-02-21 Thread Frank Gore
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Norman Silverstone
nor...@littletank.org wrote:
 Just a suggestion, have you tried using TurboPrint, a free trial is
 available? It may work and is much cheaper than a new printer.

I'm one of those people who's a hard core open source user and sniffs
disdainfully at any proprietary solution to achieve my means :) But I
try not to impose these irrational beliefs on anyone else, especially
on mailing lists and forums. I'd much rather saddle myself with a
crappy, generic photo printer of dubious quality than try out software
that might function perfectly well :)

But in all seriousness, there are other reasons to get a photo
printer. My Color LaserJet might be great for documents and graphics,
but it sucks horribly at printing photos. It can't do border-less
printing, its colour rendering is inferior, and it costs a fortune in
toner. A great HP photo printer is only $140 or so and would give me
better print quality than commercial photo printing companies.

-- 
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Project Manager
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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing

2010-02-21 Thread Frank Gore
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Dick Smith dsmit...@gmail.com wrote:
 However, if the $140 printer won't print on linux, then there is lttle to be
 gained by purchasing one.

I always check for proper Linux support first. There are very few HP
printers that aren't perfectly supported under Linux. My Color
LaserJet 2840 does everything in Linux flawlessly, from printing to
faxing to scanning and even remote-initiated copies (wtf is the point
of that, anyways?), all over the network. I couldn't even get it to do
those things reliably under Windows.

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@gmail.com wrote:
 And if you ever have shootout comparing that HP to the others, from my
 experience an Epson ink squirter will be the last man standing.  An old 4
 color C82 made prints of weddings good enough to sell, with closer color
 matching than the so called pro who farms his stuff out to the custom lab
 in his local CVS.  HP's red dye is way too orange to suit me.  That's how
 they get the brightness, yes, but that isn't a true red no matter how much
 ink you soak the paper with.  Sadly, the C82 finally burned out its head, so
 there is now an NX515 sitting here, but I need to do a bit of fine tuning,
 the drivers are a bit old too.

That's interesting! I've been doing tons more photography lately, and
Gimp has become a much more useful tool as a result. I'm definitely
looking for something with good colour fidelity, so I'll have to check
out the options. It's just hard to beat HP's Linux support. Even the
printers they don't officially support (of which there are few) tend
to work flawlessly anyways. I've been burned in this department before
with cheap Lexmark printers.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing

2010-02-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 21 February 2010, Frank Gore wrote:
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Dick Smith dsmit...@gmail.com wrote:
 However, if the $140 printer won't print on linux, then there is lttle to
 be gained by purchasing one.

I always check for proper Linux support first. There are very few HP
printers that aren't perfectly supported under Linux. My Color
LaserJet 2840 does everything in Linux flawlessly, from printing to
faxing to scanning and even remote-initiated copies (wtf is the point
of that, anyways?), all over the network. I couldn't even get it to do
those things reliably under Windows.

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 And if you ever have shootout comparing that HP to the others, from my
 experience an Epson ink squirter will be the last man standing.  An old 4
 color C82 made prints of weddings good enough to sell, with closer color
 matching than the so called pro who farms his stuff out to the custom
 lab in his local CVS.  HP's red dye is way too orange to suit me. 
 That's how they get the brightness, yes, but that isn't a true red no
 matter how much ink you soak the paper with.  Sadly, the C82 finally
 burned out its head, so there is now an NX515 sitting here, but I need to
 do a bit of fine tuning, the drivers are a bit old too.

That's interesting! I've been doing tons more photography lately, and
Gimp has become a much more useful tool as a result. I'm definitely
looking for something with good colour fidelity, so I'll have to check
out the options. It's just hard to beat HP's Linux support. Even the
printers they don't officially support (of which there are few) tend
to work flawlessly anyways. I've been burned in this department before
with cheap Lexmark printers.

Lexmark?  Oops, sorry, but now we're both guilty, so I'll be right behind you 
in the line to warsh my mouth out with some of grandma's lye soap.  They 
obviously have more lawyers than engineers, and will sue anyone who says 
differently.  Be advised their warranty is null and void if its ever been 
hooked up to a linux box.  Been there, learned  that, but the lesson cost me 
a bit over 100 USD for that class's tuition.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order.
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Re: [Gimp-user] printing

2010-02-08 Thread Deniz Dogan
2010/2/7 jon s. for...@gimpusers.com:
 Hi all, and thanks in advance for your help.  I am a newbie with GIMP, and
 usually use it for light touch up of digital photos of artwork.

 I am running windows xp on a nice dell optiplex.  I believe the os is up to
 date.  Just upgrade to ..6.8.  Gimp works fine, except that I cannot print!  I
 open a line drawing, do file, print, and nothing happens.  There must be some
 setup or plugin I am missing.  The fix must be easy, but I am stumped.  I
 would appreciate some help.  Thanks,

 Jon Stivers


For what it's worth, I have never been able to print from GIMP either.
I have to save it to a normal image format, open it up in a normal
image viewer and print it from there.

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing

2010-02-08 Thread Cristian Secară
On Sun,  7 Feb 2010 23:05:19 +0100 (CET), jon s. wrote:

 I am running windows xp on a nice dell optiplex.  I believe the os is
 up to date.  Just upgrade to ..6.8.  Gimp works fine, except that I
 cannot print!  I open a line drawing, do file, print, and nothing
 happens.  There must be some setup or plugin I am missing.

I have a similar problem with a Konica Minolta 1300 that is set
up on network (http port), which happens to be the default one in my
system.
My workaround, if I *really* need to prin from within GIMP:
- in my system there is also PDFCreator installed
- I set PDFCreator as the default printer *before* starting GIMP
- do whatever in GIMP
- print - PDFCreator - generating pdf
- open the pdf and print to whatever printer

In the above case, after the click on Print... but just when the
printers dialog comes up I select the Konica Minolta printer, the
dialog hangs and I have to close it by force, giving a GIMP message
about the plug-in print.exe which has crashed, blah, blah.

Cristi

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing

2010-02-08 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
jon s.:


I, too, am using Windows XP (though not on a Dell), and upgraded to Gimp 
2.6.8 after I posted my response. Printer is a Ricoh Aficio 610, 
connected as a network printer through a router, printing directly using 
the Windows network drivers supplied by Ricoh for the printer, and it 
works exactly as I expect with black and white line drawings and 
photographs.

ns
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Re: [Gimp-user] printing

2010-02-07 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
jon s.:

The information you included is insufficient for me to be of much help.


 I am running windows xp on a nice dell optiplex.  I believe the os is up to
 date.  Just upgrade to ..6.8.  Gimp works fine, except that I cannot print!  I
 open a line drawing, do file, print, and nothing happens.  There must be some
 setup or plugin I am missing.  The fix must be easy, but I am stumped.  I
 would appreciate some help.


In particular, one needs to know what printer you are using, and in what 
mode. Are your printer drivers up to date? Do you get any error 
messages? I don't know what browser you use, but most browsers will 
handle certain image formats natively; can you print one of those? what 
happens if you save your line drawing in one of the formats that your 
preferred browser handles natively; will it print that way?

ns

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing (was Re: running out of hair)

2009-12-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 28 December 2009, Akkana Peck wrote:
Gene Heskett writes:
 So my question is: Where do I put the BR2140.ppd that cups uses so that
  the gutenprint plug-in can also find it?  The regular print dialog has
  no knowledge of this printer, and nowhere near enough controls to be
  usable.

The regular (GTK) print dialog should see CUPS-registered printers.

Yes and no.  It sees them, but I've had to add them before it works.

Gutenprint doesn't -- for Gutenprint you have to add each printer
yourself, and it doesn't have drivers for a lot of printers that
CUPS supports just fine,

Or reconfigure it by figuring out where to put the HL-2140.ppd.gz package, 
which I believe I have done now:
[r...@coyote ups]# locate HL2140.ppd.gz
/usr/share/foomatic/db/source/PPD/Brother/HL2140.ppd.gz
/usr/share/ppd/HL2140.ppd.gz

So that one is working.  And it now appears I need to do the same thing for 
my new NX-515 all-in-one, but that brings up another problem.  I cannot leave 
the xsane dialog open to the scanner in it, and print at the same time, the 
print jobs then apparently go to /dev/null, and the printer icons green ready 
button in the FF display turns yellow, not red.  I tried to use the NX515's 
built in copy function, but the copy was so bad it went straight to the round 
file.  So if there are multiple pages to copy, I have to get them, save them, 
close out the xsane dialog, then reload, do any adjustments, and then print.
And when the printing didn't work, it made a 20 minute job for 8 pages into a 
4 hour job.  Foomatics NX400.ppd almost works with this, as does mtink, but 
it says all the color tanks are empty all the time.

And mtink, I need working badly as the thing doesn't tell you which tank is 
low.  Does it expect you to replace all 4 tanks at almost $90 USD everytime 
one runs out?  If so, I will shortly have enough in this one to be able to 
afford a color laser, if I could stand the orange color of their reds.

Recommendations please?

Thanks.

For Gutenprint, try asking on the gimp-print list (they're friendly)

except for Waugh, its his way or the hiway, so I eventually unssubbed.

to find out if there's a way to install a ppd manually.
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gimp-print-devel

I resubscribed (I think) and posted a query there on 11/17/2009, but no 
replies have been received.  No traffic from the list at all...  Not even a 
reminder from mailman.  I'll go see if it will let me login.  No, so my 
subscription didn't stick.

rant mode ON!

Dammit I'm sick of sourceforge's CRS, enough so that I would never host a 
project of mine there.  I'm a maintainer of the nitros9 project, and it 
forgot about me about a week after I setup the account 4 or 5 years ago so I 
haven't been able to do a cvs submission since and it won't let be setup a 
new account, claims I already exist.  Fuggem.

/rant

 It is then printed portrait, full sized.  Any other method prints it
 landscape, slightly smaller in scale and still with some of the bottom
 clipped off.

I've had a lot of trouble controlling details like edges and borders.
With my HP and the GTK print dialog, I managed briefly to get
borderless (full bleed) prints, but something changed in the CUPS
settings and now I get unpredictable margin sizes, and I haven't
found the magic setting to turn borderless back on.

That option, as you know, comes from the driver, and is displayed and 
changeable from the gutenprint gui gimp calls here, and hasn't changed with 
any cups updates, currently at 1.3.11 here.  However there are some miss-cues 
in the NX515 when being driven by the NX400 driver ppd, which is the newest 
one I can find.  Trying some modes will only empty the paper chute for 
instance.  My one message to the list did get there, and I offered to be a 
crash test dummy/mule, so I figured that would generate some traffic.  No.  
And now I'm not subbed (again).

I didn't
have any better luck when I had an Epson and used Gutenprint.
Accurate printing from GIMP still involves some luck and black magic.

That depends on the printer.  My old C82, using the C84 driver ppd, was photo 
perfect, I've sold wedding prints out of it!  Until after  2 kilobucks in 
ink over many years and at least half a ton of paper, the print head finally 
failed.  This NX515 I will need to fight with till its obsolete, at which 
point we may have a good driver for it. ;-)  With luck.  And that luck does 
NOT include sourceforge.

   ...Akkana

Thanks Akkana

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing (was Re: running out of hair)

2009-12-28 Thread Norman Silverstone
After lots and lots of trying to print I had to spend some cash and buy
TurboPrint - problem solved.

Norman

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing issue

2009-07-27 Thread Erik Lotspeich
Hi Norman,

I guess that it is possible your theory is correct and that this is the
motivation.

Since printing with Gimp on Vista does not work properly, it calls this
theory into question, however.

Regards,

Erik

Norman Silverstone wrote:
  snip 
 
 Just imagine a novice Linux user.  Imagine your mother-in-law who wants
 to print a photo with Gimp.  She will fail.  That is my point.  I think
 that you all are missing the point that I'm making.  Your mother-in-law
 will be confused by Print and Print with Gutenprint.  Nobody has to
 worry about this garbage with Photoshop -- the user does File-Print and
 it just works.  Us open-source guys are smart talented people.  Let's
 make software that actually works and is easy-to-use.
 
 I have tried to follow this discussion because I also have had printing
 problems over the years. Could part of the need for 2 possible 'print'
 selections be because of the need to please Windows as well as Linux
 users?
 
 Norman
 
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing issue

2009-07-27 Thread Norman Silverstone

 I guess that it is possible your theory is correct and that this is the
 motivation.
 
 Since printing with Gimp on Vista does not work properly, it calls this
 theory into question, however.

You have a point. However, my view has always been that, although it is
great that the bulk of software I need to use is free, I am quite
prepared to buy something, if necessary. Thus, I use TurboPrint for
printing from Gimp and have done for several years.

Norman 


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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing issue

2009-07-27 Thread John Culleton
On Friday 24 July 2009 12:40:42 am Erik Lotspeich wrote:
 Hi,

 I have OpenSUSE 11.1 and Gimp 2.6.2.  I am having a serious
 problem with printing that I cannot figure out.

 For background, I've used Gimp since 1997 and I'm no novice to
 Gimp, Linux, or Unix.

 That being said, I found the printing in Gimp 2.2 to be near
 perfect. It worked perfectly and had a feature to auto-fit the
 image to the correct paper size.  Image rotation
 (landscape/portrait) was never an issue.

 I find the printing interface in Gimp 2.6.2 to be a complete
 failure in terms of both interface and functionality.  Here are
 links to some screenshots:

 https://joomla.lotspeich.org/~erik/gimp-print-fail.png
 https://joomla.lotspeich.org/~erik/gimp-image-properties.png

 I would like to know why the width and height do not correspond
 to any reasonable value.  I set my paper size to 4x6 borderless
 on an HP OfficeJet 6110.  Printing on this printer works
 perfectly in other programs; I'm using hplip and CUPS.

 Why is there no auto-resize like there is in Gimp 2.2?

 Why is the X and Y resolution pegged to 1133.948?  Why won't it
 let me set this value?

 The preview does not correspond in any way to my paper size (see
 the huge border on the bottom!).

 I'm sorry to sound upset by this issue, but I'm completely
 shocked that a wonderful program like Gimp would have such a
 complete regression. I'm using the distro version of Gimp
 (OpenSUSE); I haven't tried to compile the latest version from
 source.

 I also tried Gimp for Windows on my wife's Windows Vista
 computer. Printing here is just as much of a failure.  On
 Windows, it's actually worse since the page setup options that
 Gimp provides conflict with the printer driver's settings (e.g.
 paper size, rotation, etc.).  I tried all permutations of
 portrait/landscape and could never find a way to print correctly.

 Any help or assistance would be greatly appreciated.

 Regards,

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My history with Gimp is much more limited than yours.  I have always 
used Gimp for creation/manipulation of images and some other 
program for printing out the  results in a document.  When I rarely 
need to print color work locally I throw a switch to redirect 
traffic to my Epson Stylus Color 880 and select that printer from 
the Cups popup.  Someday I hope to get a color laser. But I will 
still use Gimp for image massaging and something else to print out 
the results. 

Perhaps I should test Gutenprint directly from Gimp just to be sure 
it works.

My Epson 880 is ancient. Hence it is well understood by software.  
When it dies I may try to find another on EBay. 

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing issue

2009-07-26 Thread Norman Silverstone
 snip 

 Just imagine a novice Linux user.  Imagine your mother-in-law who wants
 to print a photo with Gimp.  She will fail.  That is my point.  I think
 that you all are missing the point that I'm making.  Your mother-in-law
 will be confused by Print and Print with Gutenprint.  Nobody has to
 worry about this garbage with Photoshop -- the user does File-Print and
 it just works.  Us open-source guys are smart talented people.  Let's
 make software that actually works and is easy-to-use.

I have tried to follow this discussion because I also have had printing
problems over the years. Could part of the need for 2 possible 'print'
selections be because of the need to please Windows as well as Linux
users?

Norman


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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing issue

2009-07-25 Thread Chris Mohler
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Erik Lotspeiche...@lotspeich.org wrote:

 The fact that the Gimp engineers haven't integrated these two printing
 systems is unacceptable -- they should be ashamed.  Gimp will never be
 taken seriously until this printing nightmare is resolved.  I am a
 software engineer myself, so it's not like I'm speaking simply from a
 user point-of-view.

Please go here and read the history/purpose of gutenprint (below the news):
http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/

Then direct your rant at whoever is packaging your distro ;)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing issue

2009-07-25 Thread Erik Lotspeich
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Hi Chris,

I appreciate your feedback.  Looking at the history of gutenprint only
solidifies my point which is:

Native Gimp printing = FAIL
Gutenprint (Gimp plug-in) = WIN

My distro is OpenSUSE 11.1 which is a popular, modern Linux distribution
backed by a large company.  I have all the updates.

The fact is that it is the Gimp maintainers who have failed to provide a
working printing system.  Surely, you aren't asserting that the
Gutenprint folks are responsible for Gimp's broken native printing
system... the Gimp folks need to deliver a complete piece of software.
They have nobody to blame but themselves for the current mess.

Gutenprint provides a printing system that works.  The OpenSUSE folks
have NOTHING to do with the fact that Gimp's printing is all but
non-functional.

I'm quite sick of this attitude in the Linux community that distro
maintainers are responsible for broken software.  The truth is that the
distro maintainers are constantly patching and making up for the
inadequacies of the upstream source packages to try to cobble something
together that works.  They often don't succeed.

Regards,

Erik.

Chris Mohler wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Erik Lotspeiche...@lotspeich.org wrote:
 
 The fact that the Gimp engineers haven't integrated these two printing
 systems is unacceptable -- they should be ashamed.  Gimp will never be
 taken seriously until this printing nightmare is resolved.  I am a
 software engineer myself, so it's not like I'm speaking simply from a
 user point-of-view.
 
 Please go here and read the history/purpose of gutenprint (below the news):
 http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/
 
 Then direct your rant at whoever is packaging your distro ;)
 
 Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing issue

2009-07-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 25 July 2009, Erik Lotspeich wrote:
Hi Chris,

I appreciate your feedback.  Looking at the history of gutenprint only
solidifies my point which is:

Native Gimp printing = FAIL
Gutenprint (Gimp plug-in) = WIN

My distro is OpenSUSE 11.1 which is a popular, modern Linux distribution
backed by a large company.  I have all the updates.

The fact is that it is the Gimp maintainers who have failed to provide a
working printing system.  Surely, you aren't asserting that the
Gutenprint folks are responsible for Gimp's broken native printing
system... the Gimp folks need to deliver a complete piece of software.
They have nobody to blame but themselves for the current mess.

Gutenprint provides a printing system that works.  The OpenSUSE folks
have NOTHING to do with the fact that Gimp's printing is all but
non-functional.

I'm quite sick of this attitude in the Linux community that distro
maintainers are responsible for broken software.  The truth is that the
distro maintainers are constantly patching and making up for the
inadequacies of the upstream source packages to try to cobble something
together that works.  They often don't succeed.

Regards,

Erik.

Erik, I thinnk you are missing a point here.  Gimp is the image tool, yes.
But between foomatic and gutenprint, and as I have epson printers, I'm partial 
to gutenprint, keeping ahead of the continuous efforts of the printer people 
to create a completely dependent on the maker product, so they can give away 
the printer and make it up on inflated ink prices, and do it as well as they 
do, involves at least as many folks to keep gutenprint up to date as it does 
to keep a steady stream of improvements coming along in Gimp.

This is really two separate problems cuz there are 200 printers, all needing 
slightly different drivers out in the field being used every day, for every 
Gimp contributor.  Probably at least 250 under the Epson label alone,  
Lexmark (spit) probably doesn't make the same model for more than 30 days.

You simply cannot expect the Gimp folks to keep ahead of that.

Those of us who've used Gimp for the last half decade and more, just know that 
we should also pull in gutenprint, or if your distro doesn't have it, build it 
from the tarball, its not THAT difficult.  I've done it many times and I'm 
your classic old fart, I'll be 75 in a couple months.

 Please go here and read the history/purpose of gutenprint (below the
 news): http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/

 Then direct your rant at whoever is packaging your distro ;)

+1000

 Chris

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing issue

2009-07-25 Thread Erik Lotspeich
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Hi Gene,

Your point is well taken.  I do not expect the Gimp people to keep on
top of printing at all.

But why not have Gutenprint be a pre-requisite to Gimp?  Why deliver a
broken default printing system?

For the record, my distro does deliver the Gutenprint Gimp plug-in, but
it wasn't installed by default.  As I mentioned before, this is not a
distro issue.

Software should just work.  We should all be moving toward this goal.

Gene Heskett wrote:
 Those of us who've used Gimp for the last half decade and more, just know 
 that 
 we should also pull in gutenprint, or if your distro doesn't have it, build 
 it 
 from the tarball, its not THAT difficult.

In my opinion, this attitude is completely wrong.  Gimp needs to work
out-of-the-box.  As I mentioned, I used Gimp for many years and I was
caught by surprise by this Gutenprint thing.

Just imagine a novice Linux user.  Imagine your mother-in-law who wants
to print a photo with Gimp.  She will fail.  That is my point.  I think
that you all are missing the point that I'm making.  Your mother-in-law
will be confused by Print and Print with Gutenprint.  Nobody has to
worry about this garbage with Photoshop -- the user does File-Print and
it just works.  Us open-source guys are smart talented people.  Let's
make software that actually works and is easy-to-use.

Regards,

Erik.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing issue

2009-07-24 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno
On Friday 24 July 2009, Erik Lotspeich wrote:
 Hi,

 I have OpenSUSE 11.1 and Gimp 2.6.2.  I am having a serious problem with
 printing that I cannot figure out.

 For background, I've used Gimp since 1997 and I'm no novice to Gimp,
 Linux, or Unix.

 That being said, I found the printing in Gimp 2.2 to be near perfect.
 It worked perfectly and had a feature to auto-fit the image to the
 correct paper size.  Image rotation (landscape/portrait) was never an
 issue.
(...)

Hi Erik - 
those features are now maintained in the external gutenprint (formerly 
gimp-print ) project;. Please search you r distro packages for gutenprint
gimp related packages, and the printing plgu-in with the itnerface you are 
used to (and the features you are needing) should become available.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing issue

2009-07-24 Thread Erik Lotspeich
Hi Joao,

I very much appreciate your measured response to my rant! ;)

I installed the Gutenprint plugin and printing works exactly as I would
expect it to.  Your suggestion really saved the day for me and I
appreciate it greatly!


For the record, I find it absurd that Gimp has two parallel printing
systems.  The default system, although it can glean printer and
paper-size information from CUPS, is clearly broken and lacks features
necessary to print photographs and other media effectively (or, in many
cases, at all!).

Gutenprint has necessary features like auto-orientation, color
correction, ability to auto-size images, etc. but lacks integration with
CUPS.  It is necessary to use RAW mode or have the PPD available and
print PostScript to obtain decent results.  This is also non-ideal since
CUPS already has the PPD and you need to reference it again for
Gutenprint (sometimes this means having the PPD both on the local
machine and on the remote print server).

The fact that the Gimp engineers haven't integrated these two printing
systems is unacceptable -- they should be ashamed.  Gimp will never be
taken seriously until this printing nightmare is resolved.  I am a
software engineer myself, so it's not like I'm speaking simply from a
user point-of-view.

Regards,

Erik.


Joao S. O. Bueno wrote:
 On Friday 24 July 2009, Erik Lotspeich wrote:
 Hi,

 I have OpenSUSE 11.1 and Gimp 2.6.2.  I am having a serious problem with
 printing that I cannot figure out.

 For background, I've used Gimp since 1997 and I'm no novice to Gimp,
 Linux, or Unix.

 That being said, I found the printing in Gimp 2.2 to be near perfect.
 It worked perfectly and had a feature to auto-fit the image to the
 correct paper size.  Image rotation (landscape/portrait) was never an
 issue.
 (...)
 
 Hi Erik - 
 those features are now maintained in the external gutenprint (formerly 
 gimp-print ) project;. Please search you r distro packages for gutenprint
 gimp related packages, and the printing plgu-in with the itnerface you are 
 used to (and the features you are needing) should become available.
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing from a batch

2009-02-26 Thread Decimator Doseven

On Wed Feb 25 13:50:21 PST 2009 Sven Neumann wrote:

It would help to make some suggestions for the parameters that need to

be added.

Until we have changed this, you could work around the missing parameters
by having your script modify the files print-settings and
print-page-setup as found in the ~/.gimp-2.6 folder.

Well, the most important parameters would be:
Destination printer, copies, the four margins, DPI, paper size,
and how to fit a large image on a page.
Shrink, crop, tile over multiple pages, or tile multiple images on a page.
Portrait or landscape would also be useful.



  
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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing from a batch

2009-02-25 Thread Decimator Doseven

It appears that I was mistaken, and the script used a command that gimp does 
not have:
file_print_gimp

http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/lists/gimp-user/2006-April/007923.html

I assumed(obviously incorrectly) that the name of the command had changed.

In this case, is this there a command that allows me to change the destination 
printer for gimp?
I have succeeded in making gimp print via a batch, using file-print-gtk, but it 
prints to the last used printer.
I also need a command to modify the margins, as gimp currently cuts off part of 
the image.



Sven Neumann on Tue Feb 24 12:09:08 PST 2009

What does it not do that you need? I am pretty sure that the API of
file-print-gtk did not change, so I wonder what those scripts would do
differently.


  
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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing from a batch

2009-02-25 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 07:03 -0800, Decimator Doseven wrote:
 It appears that I was mistaken, and the script used a command that gimp does 
 not have:
 file_print_gimp
 
 http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/lists/gimp-user/2006-April/007923.html
 
 I assumed(obviously incorrectly) that the name of the command had changed.
 
 In this case, is this there a command that allows me to change the 
 destination printer for gimp?
 I have succeeded in making gimp print via a batch, using file-print-gtk, but 
 it prints to the last used printer.
 I also need a command to modify the margins, as gimp currently cuts off part 
 of the image.

No, there isn't. It might make sense to add some additional parameters
to the file-print-gtk and file-print-gtk-page-setup procedures. That
would break the API and might cause problems for scripts using these.
But then, the current API does not seem sufficient to actually use these
procedures, so I guess we can afford the breakage.

It would help to make some suggestions for the parameters that need to
be added.

Until we have changed this, you could work around the missing parameters
by having your script modify the files print-settings and
print-page-setup as found in the ~/.gimp-2.6 folder.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing from a batch

2009-02-24 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 15:02 -0800, Decimator Doseven wrote:
 It does not appear to.  All it has is (file-print-gtk run-mode image),
 which does not do what I need and does not match what I've seen 
 in the various(unfortunately non-working) scripts that I was able to find.

What does it not do that you need? I am pretty sure that the API of
file-print-gtk did not change, so I wonder what those scripts would do
differently.


Sven

PS: Next time, please reply to the list.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing from a batch

2009-02-23 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 14:20 -0800, Decimator Doseven wrote:
 Could someone tell me the proper syntax for file-print-gtk?

The Prodecure Browser (as found in the GIMP Help menu) should tell you.


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Re: [Gimp-user] printing only blue

2008-09-26 Thread Francois du Toit
Another method is to leave the cartridge overnight in a sealed plastic
bag with a piece of wet cloth or similar inside. Of course it won't
work as fast as submerging the nozzle in water, but then you don't
risk flooding the cartridge either.

  This is how the printer technician at my work does it:
  Place the cartridge head down in a shallow bowl with clean water.
  Leave it in for a few hours, wipe it of gently with a clean cloth rag.
  Do NOT use tissuepaper!
  Make sure its dry before you place it back into the printer again.
  This might have to be repeated, but its safe for the nozzles and ink.

 Thank you, I will try that. I am wary of water and electronics, but
 the cartridge is pretty much all PET or ABS, and I do believe that the
 ink is water based.

 Just a fraction of an inch of water.
 Dont submerge the whole thing.
 You only need to wet the nozzles.
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Re: [Gimp-user] printing only blue

2008-09-25 Thread Rikard Johnels
On Tuesday 23 September 2008 19:11, Dotan Cohen wrote:
 2008/9/23 Kevin Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Dotan Cohen wrote:
  My printer has a stuck blue nozzle and I am trying to clean it.
 
  The simplest solution is to run multiple cleaning cycles to clear the
  nozzles. I had an inkjet printer where multiple nozzles were clogged. It
  took about three or four of the printers built-in cleaning cycles to
  fully unclog all holes in all of the cartridges.

 I've run tens of passes. Everything is clean but the blue reservoir,
 which is stuck real bad. I'm cleaning it with spit, printing, spit,
 printing, but I have a long ways to go and I'd like to not waste the
 ink from the other reservoirs. That's why I'd like to print only blue.

Spit is probably one of the worst cleaning solvents you can use...
The nozzles are so small that particles in your spit will clog them.

This is how the printer technician at my work does it:
Place the cartridge head down in a shallow bowl with clean water.
Leave it in for a few hours, wipe it of gently with a clean cloth rag. 
Do NOT use tissuepaper!
Make sure its dry before you place it back into the printer again.
This might have to be repeated, but its safe for the nozzles and ink.



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Re: [Gimp-user] printing only blue

2008-09-25 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/9/25 Rikard Johnels [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Spit is probably one of the worst cleaning solvents you can use...
 The nozzles are so small that particles in your spit will clog them.

 This is how the printer technician at my work does it:
 Place the cartridge head down in a shallow bowl with clean water.
 Leave it in for a few hours, wipe it of gently with a clean cloth rag.
 Do NOT use tissuepaper!
 Make sure its dry before you place it back into the printer again.
 This might have to be repeated, but its safe for the nozzles and ink.


Thank you, I will try that. I am wary of water and electronics, but
the cartridge is pretty much all PET or ABS, and I do believe that the
ink is water based.

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing only blue

2008-09-23 Thread Torsten Neuer
Hello,

Am Dienstag, 23. September 2008 10:36:18 schrieb Dotan Cohen:
 My printer has a stuck blue nozzle and I am trying to clean it. Of the
 blue, yellow, red, and black cartridges, I want to only print from the
 blue. I tried to configure a blue-255 colour and the rest 0, however
 the printed image still uses a bit from the red cartridge as the
 choice of colours differ from those in Gimp. What colour could I
 configure, that would translate to blue only from the printer?

Printers are normally CMYK, not RGB. That is why ff will also utilize the 
other cartridges of the printer, not only cyan.
You will therefore have to select 100% C from CMYK colourspace in order to 
only print from the C cartridge - which is a bit awkward in Gimp, since the 
program has no direct CMYK support. Nevertheless, you can do so with the 
colour selector (get to the printer colour selection mode for CMYK colours).
The colour will be translated to RGB 00...

HTH

  Torsten


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Re: [Gimp-user] printing only blue

2008-09-23 Thread Kevin Cozens
Dotan Cohen wrote:
 My printer has a stuck blue nozzle and I am trying to clean it.

The simplest solution is to run multiple cleaning cycles to clear the nozzles. 
I had an inkjet printer where multiple nozzles were clogged. It took about 
three or four of the printers built-in cleaning cycles to fully unclog all 
holes in all of the cartridges.

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing only blue

2008-09-23 Thread John Culleton
On Tuesday 23 September 2008 05:20:47 am Torsten Neuer wrote:
 Hello,

 Am Dienstag, 23. September 2008 10:36:18 schrieb Dotan Cohen:
  My printer has a stuck blue nozzle and I am trying to clean it.
  Of the blue, yellow, red, and black cartridges, I want to only
  print from the blue. I tried to configure a blue-255 colour and
  the rest 0, however the printed image still uses a bit from the
  red cartridge as the choice of colours differ from those in Gimp.
  What colour could I configure, that would translate to blue only
  from the printer?

 Printers are normally CMYK, not RGB. That is why ff will also
 utilize the other cartridges of the printer, not only cyan.
 You will therefore have to select 100% C from CMYK colourspace in
 order to only print from the C cartridge - which is a bit awkward
 in Gimp, since the program has no direct CMYK support.
 Nevertheless, you can do so with the colour selector (get to the
 printer colour selection mode for CMYK colours). The colour will be
 translated to RGB 00...

 HTH

   Torsten

ImageMagick will convert from rgb to cmyk after saving the file from 
Gimp.  If the above RGB 00 is used then it should convert to Cyan 
(not exactly blue.)

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing only blue

2008-09-23 Thread Don Koch
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:26:28 -0400
John Culleton wrote:

 On Tuesday 23 September 2008 05:20:47 am Torsten Neuer wrote:
  Hello,
 
  Am Dienstag, 23. September 2008 10:36:18 schrieb Dotan Cohen:
   My printer has a stuck blue nozzle and I am trying to clean it.
   Of the blue, yellow, red, and black cartridges, I want to only
   print from the blue. I tried to configure a blue-255 colour and
   the rest 0, however the printed image still uses a bit from the
   red cartridge as the choice of colours differ from those in Gimp.
   What colour could I configure, that would translate to blue only
   from the printer?
 
  Printers are normally CMYK, not RGB. That is why ff will also
  utilize the other cartridges of the printer, not only cyan.
  You will therefore have to select 100% C from CMYK colourspace in
  order to only print from the C cartridge - which is a bit awkward
  in Gimp, since the program has no direct CMYK support.
  Nevertheless, you can do so with the colour selector (get to the
  printer colour selection mode for CMYK colours). The colour will be
  translated to RGB 00...
 
  HTH
 
Torsten
 
 ImageMagick will convert from rgb to cmyk after saving the file from 
 Gimp.  If the above RGB 00 is used then it should convert to Cyan 
 (not exactly blue.)

Cheaper printers are RBY, not CMYK.  He never said he had an RGB
printer. (I don't think anyone even makes an RGB printer.)  My HP printer,
for example, had a Red-Blue-Yellow cartridge and a black one. I do have
another printer that is CMYK.

Best suggestion so far is to use the printer's clean mode.  Otherwise,
I don't see a big problem with a little bit of red leaking through.

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing only blue

2008-09-23 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/9/23 Kevin Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Dotan Cohen wrote:
 My printer has a stuck blue nozzle and I am trying to clean it.

 The simplest solution is to run multiple cleaning cycles to clear the nozzles.
 I had an inkjet printer where multiple nozzles were clogged. It took about
 three or four of the printers built-in cleaning cycles to fully unclog all
 holes in all of the cartridges.


I've run tens of passes. Everything is clean but the blue reservoir,
which is stuck real bad. I'm cleaning it with spit, printing, spit,
printing, but I have a long ways to go and I'd like to not waste the
ink from the other reservoirs. That's why I'd like to print only blue.

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing only blue

2008-09-23 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/9/23 Don Koch [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Cheaper printers are RBY, not CMYK.  He never said he had an RGB
 printer. (I don't think anyone even makes an RGB printer.)  My HP printer,
 for example, had a Red-Blue-Yellow cartridge and a black one. I do have
 another printer that is CMYK.


I should have been clear about that, sorry. The printer cartridge has
red, blue, and yellow reserviors, in fact, it is an HP model.

 Best suggestion so far is to use the printer's clean mode.  Otherwise,
 I don't see a big problem with a little bit of red leaking through.


I have used the printer's clean mode but it is wasting much ink from
the other reserviors, and wasting the black as well. I figure that I
need at least another ten or so passes, maybe more, so I'd like to
save the other colours.

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing in gimp..

2008-01-24 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

to shed some more light on the issue of how preview works with the GIMP
Print plug-in based on GTK+ Print, here's an excerpt from another mail
on this subject:

  We just hand-off printing (and previewing) to Gtk. Gtk then calls the
  appropriate pdf viewer. WHat is the appropriate previewer can be
  configured in .gtkrc-2.0 located in your home directory. 
  The important entry is:
 
gtk-print-preview-command=evince --unlink-tempfile --preview
   --print-settings %s %f 

  the above line should work for most older versions of evince. Of
  course  you can also use other programs such as:
 
gtk-print-preview-command=gv %f 

  or
 
   gtk-print-preview-command=xpdf -q %f 

  Note that evince is preferred since gtk creates temporary files and 
  --unlink-tempfile tells evince to delete them. The other commands
  will keep those temporary pdf files around. 

Note that this is only true for printing on Linux and other UNIX
platforms. Your desktop may also override the settings in
your .gtkrc-2.0.

On Win32 things work differently. As far as I understand the default
viewer for metafiles is used for the preview. By default this seems to
be the Windows Picture and Fax Viewer.


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-user] printing in gimp..

2008-01-24 Thread norman
 snip 

 I'm pretty sure the same thing is true of the latest Fedora package for
 gimp 2.4.3.   But one can get the gutenprint gimp plugin which does the
 job quite well.  I bet that is available for ubuntu also.

As far as I know, it always has for Ubuntu.

Norman

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing in gimp..

2008-01-23 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Thu, 2008-01-24 at 01:25 +0900, Choi, JiHui wrote:

 1. in windows, gimp doesn't have print preview..

That's a problem of the GTK+ print system. The implementation on Windows
is lacking some functionality. I am sure the GTK+ developers would love
to get some help with that.

 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=376469

And some links to bug reports about problems with the Print preview on
other platforms:

 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=491488
 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=505453
 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=509909

As you can see there is a lot left to be done.

 and in ubuntu, gimp doesn't have even print menu, either

The people who package GIMP for Ubuntu decided to build GIMP without
Print support. If you want to know why, you got to ask them.


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Re: [Gimp-user] printing in gimp..

2008-01-23 Thread Leonard Evens
On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 19:00 +0100, Sven Neumann wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Thu, 2008-01-24 at 01:25 +0900, Choi, JiHui wrote:
 
  1. in windows, gimp doesn't have print preview..
 
 That's a problem of the GTK+ print system. The implementation on Windows
 is lacking some functionality. I am sure the GTK+ developers would love
 to get some help with that.
 
  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=376469
 
 And some links to bug reports about problems with the Print preview on
 other platforms:
 
  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=491488
  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=505453
  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=509909
 
 As you can see there is a lot left to be done.
 
  and in ubuntu, gimp doesn't have even print menu, either
 
 The people who package GIMP for Ubuntu decided to build GIMP without
 Print support. If you want to know why, you got to ask them.

I'm pretty sure the same thing is true of the latest Fedora package for
gimp 2.4.3.   But one can get the gutenprint gimp plugin which does the
job quite well.  I bet that is available for ubuntu also.

 
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] printing

2007-10-22 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 20:19 +0100, norman wrote:
 I am using 2.3.18 

Please update to a newer version then, before anything else. If you are
using Ubuntu 7.10, simply installing the gimp package will get you GIMP
2.4rc3.

About the Print dialog. This dialog is platform specific and almost all
of it predefined by GTK+. If you want to discuss changes to the Print
dialog, please talk to the GTK+ developers.


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Re: [Gimp-user] printing

2007-10-22 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

one more thing that I forgot to say. Prior to GIMP 2.4 we basically
didn't have a Print dialog. We shipped with the plug-in that the
gimp-print (now gutenprint) project developed. On the Linux platform,
you can still get the Gutenprint plug-in for GIMP if you prefer that.


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Re: [Gimp-user] printing on DVD

2007-07-20 Thread norman

  The printer I have is said to be capable of printing on a CD or DVD. I
  wondered if it were possible to prepare and print images using Gimp and,
  if so, how would one go about the task?
 
 I use OpenOffice.org Draw to do that (and GIMP for any actual image work). 
 Draw lets you arrange shapes (circles, in this case) so that nothing prints 
 outside the outer circle, and nothing prints in the inner circle.

Thank you for that very useful information.

Norman

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing on DVD

2007-07-19 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [07-19-07 13:35]:
 The printer I have is said to be capable of printing on a CD or DVD. I
 wondered if it were possible to prepare and print images using Gimp and,
 if so, how would one go about the task?

no problem preparing the image/s, as to printing, hard to tell.  You
provide so much information...

Probably need to turn right at that corner.

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing on DVD

2007-07-19 Thread norman

 * norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [07-19-07 13:35]:
  The printer I have is said to be capable of printing on a CD or DVD. I
  wondered if it were possible to prepare and print images using Gimp and,
  if so, how would one go about the task?
 
 no problem preparing the image/s, as to printing, hard to tell.  You
 provide so much information...
 
 Probably need to turn right at that corner.
 
How right you are. I think it may be possible to actually print from
Open Office or Turboprint the problem is getting the correct dimensions
and the image in the correct place on the page.

Norman

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing on DVD

2007-07-19 Thread norman
On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 21:04 +0100, norman wrote:
  * norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [07-19-07 13:35]:
   The printer I have is said to be capable of printing on a CD or DVD. I
   wondered if it were possible to prepare and print images using Gimp and,
   if so, how would one go about the task?
  
  no problem preparing the image/s, as to printing, hard to tell.  You
  provide so much information...
  
  Probably need to turn right at that corner.
  
 How right you are. I think it may be possible to actually print from
 Open Office or Turboprint the problem is getting the correct dimensions
 and the image in the correct place on the page.

As an addendum I have found a paper setting in the print menu, CD 5in
and further reading indicates that this should print to the CD or DVD
avoiding the centre hole and the edge. I must find an old disc and try
it and report back.

Norman

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing on DVD

2007-07-19 Thread Bob Long

- Original Message - 
From: norman [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 The printer I have is said to be capable of printing on a CD or DVD. I
 wondered if it were possible to prepare and print images using Gimp and,
 if so, how would one go about the task?

I use OpenOffice.org Draw to do that (and GIMP for any actual image work). 
Draw lets you arrange shapes (circles, in this case) so that nothing prints 
outside the outer circle, and nothing prints in the inner circle.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing Gimp.app 2.2.11 OSX to Xerox Phaser 6100

2007-01-21 Thread Axel Wernicke
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Hi there,

I'm using gimp.app 2.2.11 too and printing works for me with a HP  
ColorLaserJet 4500 DN and OS X 10.4.8

Greetings, lexA

Am 21.01.2007 um 20:18 schrieb Matthew Polashek:

 Hi!

 I can't seem to print from Gimp.app to my Xerox Phaser 6100.  When I
 print with the default settings I get a client error bad request.
 Any ideas?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing to non-epson printer

2006-09-29 Thread John R. Culleton
On Sunday 24 September 2006 10:54, Matthew Polashek wrote:
 I have been trying to figure out how to print to my xerox color laser
 printer.  Any suggestions?

 Thanks!
 Matt

In general Gimp is best used to create illos for documents/web
pages rather than the documents themselves. But you can save a
gimp image as PostScript (don't forget to zero out the offsets in
the print dialog) and then route that PostScript page to your
printer somehow. Alternatively you can incorporate the image in a
document type you know you can print and then print that document.  
MSWord comes to mind, if you are on MSWindows. 



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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing on CDs with the new gtk+ printing dialog

2006-09-28 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Fri, 2006-09-29 at 09:20 +1000, Daniel Kasak wrote:

 With the old gimp  print dialog ( and with the help of a gimp plugin to 
 set up CD covers ), I've had great success in printing CD covers. After 
 a recent gimp update, the old print dialog has been replaced with the 
 new gtk+ one. I can't get it to print CD covers. It says:
 
 Image width (11.1097 in) is larger than printable width (4.56944 in).

 I have selected the correct media type ( CD - 5 in ) and also selected 
 this in the 'page setup' bit. I've checked everything else in the print 
 dialog as well. Copying my gimp project to a PC with an older Gimp 
 allows me to print this CD cover. Any ideas?

You can install gutenprint if that gives you better results. You could
investigate the problem and file a bug report against GTK+. You can use
the stable GIMP that you should still have installed. Or did you
actually replace it with an unstable development snapshot?


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing on CDs with the new gtk+ printing dialog

2006-09-28 Thread Daniel Kasak

Sven Neumann wrote:

ith an older Gimp 
allows me to print this CD cover. Any ideas?



You can install gutenprint if that gives you better results.


I also have this installed.


 You could
investigate the problem and file a bug report against GTK+. You can use
the stable GIMP that you should still have installed. Or did you
actually replace it with an unstable development snapshot?


I replaced it, but rolling back isn't too hard, and I have a lot of 
other PCs around I can use for now. I will investigate further and file 
a bug against gtk.


Thanks for the quick response :)

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing landscape on 3x5 cards

2006-04-17 Thread David Lee
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 08:37:17 -0400
Jim Philips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have some 3x5 templates in .png format that I downloaded. I want to
 print them out in landscape format, because if I print them as portrait
 my printer bracket won't come in tight enough to hold the card in
 place. So, I open the .png in Gimp and flip it 90 degrees and save it.
 I then try to print it from Gimp, with 3x5 specified as the paper size.
 What gets printed is a long string of raw Postscript and nothing else.
 I have to kill the print job. I'm using Gimp 2.2.10 with CUPS 1.1.23 on
 a Slackware box. Any clues as to what is wrong? Am I using a crappy
 print driver? The printer is an Epson C-62 inkjet. It prints without
 problems otherwise, even some 3x5 cards in landscape. But those are
 from a Web page where formatting is enforced by CSS. 

I believe you will need to pick setup printer from the print dialog and pick 
the type of printer you are using.  This is what did the trick for me.

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing landscape on 3x5 cards

2006-04-17 Thread Geoffrey

David Lee wrote:

On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 08:37:17 -0400 Jim Philips
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I have some 3x5 templates in .png format that I downloaded. I want
to print them out in landscape format, because if I print them as
portrait my printer bracket won't come in tight enough to hold the
card in place. So, I open the .png in Gimp and flip it 90 degrees
and save it. I then try to print it from Gimp, with 3x5 specified
as the paper size. What gets printed is a long string of raw
Postscript and nothing else. I have to kill the print job. I'm
using Gimp 2.2.10 with CUPS 1.1.23 on a Slackware box. Any clues as
to what is wrong? Am I using a crappy print driver? The printer is
an Epson C-62 inkjet. It prints without problems otherwise, even
some 3x5 cards in landscape. But those are from a Web page where
formatting is enforced by CSS.


I believe you will need to pick setup printer from the print dialog
and pick the type of printer you are using.  This is what did the
trick for me.


One thing I recall about the GIMP is that it wants a non compressed ppd 
file.  What I've had to do is go to the directory where they exist and 
unpack the file there.  Make sure you retain the gunzipped version 
though because other applications look for it.  For example, for my 
Minolta laser I have the following ppd files:


/usr/share/cups/model/Minolta-magicolor_2300_DL.ppd
/usr/share/cups/model/Minolta-magicolor_2300_DL.ppd.gz

You set this in the setup printer dialog of GIMP David has mentioned.

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing from OSX

2006-03-09 Thread Axel Wernicke

Hi,

Am 09.03.2006 um 09:39 schrieb Matthew Polashek:


Hi!

Is there any way to get GIMP for OSX to print to the standard  
printer I have set
up in OSX?  I have a Xerox 6100N Color Laser that I'd love to use  
with GIMP, but

I can't find a PPD for OSX.


Why would you want to find yourself a ppd for GIMP printing? I just  
downloaded gimp.app from gimp-app.sf.net and printing to the systems  
default printer (HP Color Laserjet 4500DN) was no problem at all.


leXa



(I did find one for PPC linux, but it didn't work.)

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing from OSX

2006-03-09 Thread Matthew Polashek
I have a Xerox 6100 though and I havne't had the same success, though I did
install GIMP.app.  What did you select as a printer when printing?

Matthew Polashek
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On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:57 , Axel Wernicke [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

Hi,

Am 09.03.2006 um 09:39 schrieb Matthew Polashek:

 Hi!

 Is there any way to get GIMP for OSX to print to the standard  
 printer I have set
 up in OSX?  I have a Xerox 6100N Color Laser that I'd love to use  
 with GIMP, but
 I can't find a PPD for OSX.

Why would you want to find yourself a ppd for GIMP printing? I just  
downloaded gimp.app from gimp-app.sf.net and printing to the systems  
default printer (HP Color Laserjet 4500DN) was no problem at all.

leXa


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Re: [Gimp-user] printing from OSX

2006-03-09 Thread Axel Wernicke


Am 09.03.2006 um 09:57 schrieb Matthew Polashek:

I have a Xerox 6100 though and I havne't had the same success,  
though I did

install GIMP.app.  What did you select as a printer when printing?


Well, I get a pretty huge print dialog which contains a drop down  
list where I just select the printer of my choice by the same name as  
in OS X.

Which version of the gimp-app are you using?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing success stories?

2006-02-25 Thread Doug

Hi Paul,

Sorry you're not having much joy so far.
I don't know that I can offer any specific advice - I do remember 
suffering a similar problem to yours at first which did get resolved, 
perhaps by following the instructions in the manual religiously, but now 
I don't recall how. I do find the printed colours I get are a close 
match to the monitor - as judged by eye - although I agree, that's only 
an interim solution till there's  proper colour management in Gimp.


However, what I would recommend is submitting a bug report to

http://www.turboprint.de/feedback.html

The people there are very prompt in replying and helpful - I found, for 
example, that I could not print on two of the better quality Epson 
papers with my Epson Stylus Photo 2100; and within a few days received a 
new PPD file that solved it.


Hope you have some success!

Doug




Paul Waldo wrote:


Hi Doug,

I have been experimenting with TurboPrint and have not been very impressed 
with the results.  It is still better than the stock gimpprint, but my test 
image has a noticeable red-cast.  Can you give some more details on your 
results with TurboPrint?  

If it would give me Windows-quality prints, I would gladly pay them twice what 
they are asking, but so far it is really unusable for me :-(.  I don't see 
how they can expect decent color without having some kind of monitor profile 
in the loop...  


Any thoughts you have would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing success stories?

2006-02-25 Thread Doug

P.S. If like me you don't have any German, you'll need Babelfish
http://babelfish.altavista.com/
in order to understand the bug report form, but you can report in 
English and the reply comes back in English as well


HTH
Doug



Doug wrote:


Hi Paul,

Sorry you're not having much joy so far.
I don't know that I can offer any specific advice - I do remember 
suffering a similar problem to yours at first which did get resolved, 
perhaps by following the instructions in the manual religiously, but 
now I don't recall how. I do find the printed colours I get are a 
close match to the monitor - as judged by eye - although I agree, 
that's only an interim solution till there's  proper colour management 
in Gimp.


However, what I would recommend is submitting a bug report to

http://www.turboprint.de/feedback.html

The people there are very prompt in replying and helpful - I found, 
for example, that I could not print on two of the better quality Epson 
papers with my Epson Stylus Photo 2100; and within a few days received 
a new PPD file that solved it.


Hope you have some success!

Doug




Paul Waldo wrote:


Hi Doug,

I have been experimenting with TurboPrint and have not been very 
impressed with the results.  It is still better than the stock 
gimpprint, but my test image has a noticeable red-cast.  Can you give 
some more details on your results with TurboPrint? 
If it would give me Windows-quality prints, I would gladly pay them 
twice what they are asking, but so far it is really unusable for me 
:-(.  I don't see how they can expect decent color without having 
some kind of monitor profile in the loop... 
Any thoughts you have would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!


Paul
 






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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing success stories?

2006-02-24 Thread Paul Waldo
Hi Doug,

I have been experimenting with TurboPrint and have not been very impressed 
with the results.  It is still better than the stock gimpprint, but my test 
image has a noticeable red-cast.  Can you give some more details on your 
results with TurboPrint?  

If it would give me Windows-quality prints, I would gladly pay them twice what 
they are asking, but so far it is really unusable for me :-(.  I don't see 
how they can expect decent color without having some kind of monitor profile 
in the loop...  

Any thoughts you have would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!

Paul

On Monday 20 February 2006 7:38 am, Doug wrote:
 Hi,
 I've had much the same problem with Gimp 2.2.4 and the Epson Stylus
 Photo 2100 running under Linux Mandrake LE2005.
 However, while waiting for a proper colour management solution to arrive
 in gimp/gutenprint, in the interim I've been able to get a pretty good
 match between monitor and printer output  using  Turboprint
 (http://www.turboprint.de/english.html).
 The only thing is that it costs (30 euros, 39 dollars) for the full
 capabilities.

 Hope that may help.

 Doug
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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing success stories?

2006-02-23 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

John R. Culleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Or as my own father used to say Don't fight the problem. The
 problem is that most printers expect or demand CMYK. Either you
 produce artwork in CMYK model to start with or you prepare it in
 RGB and then convert it---and hope. 

 Perhaps  command or plugin titled as use CMYK gamut could
 convert a Gimp image to the gamut of CMYK but leave it in RGB.
 Each RGB tone would be converted to the nearest CMYK equvalent. Is
 this possible? That feature  would give the user an idea of 
 what the printed output would look like while leaving the base
 image in a more limited version of RGB color space. 

That is possible. You can already do that in GIMP 2.2, but I admit
that using the Softproof filter in 2.2 is somewhat tedious. This will
be improved in 2.4. It allows you to work in RGB but the screen (if
properly calibrated using a monitor profile) will show you what the
print will look like, taking the printer color profile into
account. And that is indeed the workflow everyone is converting to
nowadays. It really doesn't make much sense to work in CMYK except for
special tasks like using spot colors.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing success stories?

2006-02-23 Thread John R. Culleton

 That is possible. You can already do that in GIMP 2.2, but I admit
 that using the Softproof filter in 2.2 is somewhat tedious. This will
 be improved in 2.4. It allows you to work in RGB but the screen (if
 properly calibrated using a monitor profile) will show you what the
 print will look like, taking the printer color profile into
 account. And that is indeed the workflow everyone is converting to
 nowadays. It really doesn't make much sense to work in CMYK except for
 special tasks like using spot colors.

In 2.3.7 I don't see a softproof filter. Do I need 2.2.x. to use
it?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing success stories?

2006-02-23 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

John R. Culleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 In 2.3.7 I don't see a softproof filter. Do I need 2.2.x. to use it?

You better just wait for 2.4 and a few weeks more to give the
gimp-docs team a chance to update the documentation.



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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing success stories?

2006-02-22 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

John R. Culleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am evaluating two products to use while waiting for Gimp to
 adopt the CMYK color model, Scribus and Krita (part of Koffice).
 Scribus is really a Quark replacement and Krita (inspired in part
 by Gimp is still in an early stage. The Krita manual says it will
 do CMYK but my copy doesn't have it yet. It is however very
 Gimp-ish in look and feel. 

I hope you are aware that using the CMYK color model is not going to
solve your print problems.  Actually for most image manipulation needs
your source images will be in an RGB color space and it is then
recommended to do all the work in RGB and to let the printer driver
care about the rest.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing success stories?

2006-02-21 Thread Doug

Paul Waldo wrote:

Thanks for the reply, Doug.  This looks like it may be the ticket.  If it 
works as advertised, $39 is *nothing*.  After spending many tens of hours 
trying to get wine to work for me, the purchase of Crossover office was a 
godsend!  I think this product may be in the same vein.  I want to print 
pictures, not mess with printing software!  Thanks again; I'll post my 
results back to the list once I've had a chance to test.


Paul

On Monday 20 February 2006 7:38 am, Doug wrote:
 


Hi,
I've had much the same problem with Gimp 2.2.4 and the Epson Stylus
Photo 2100 running under Linux Mandrake LE2005.
However, while waiting for a proper colour management solution to arrive
in gimp/gutenprint, in the interim I've been able to get a pretty good
match between monitor and printer output  using  Turboprint
(http://www.turboprint.de/english.html).
The only thing is that it costs (30 euros, 39 dollars) for the full
capabilities.

Hope that may help.

Doug

   


If you do decide to go with turboprint, a couple of tips -

You *should* follow the recommendations to adjust Saturation and Gamma 
in Gimp. Otherwise Gimp images that print with perfectly good colour 
matching in other apps, say OODraw, come out very wishy-washy when 
printed directly from Gimp itself.


Not all apps allow the full range of printer adjustments; use xtpconfig 
if you need these.


HTH

Doug


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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing success stories?

2006-02-20 Thread Doug

Paul Waldo wrote:


Hi all,

I am evaluating gimp on linux as a replacement for Photoshop on Windows.  I am 
currently using Photoshop/Windows primarily for the color management 
capabilities.  I have tried printing from gimp to my Epson Stylus Photo 1280, 
with horrible results--the colors are off by a significant amount.  System 
specifics below.  Does anyone out there use gimp for serious printing?  If 
so, please let me know your workflow and how you achieve color fidelity.  
Thanks in advance!


Paul

Running:
Kubuntu Breezy
gimp 2.2.8
gimp-print 4.2.7
Epson Stylus Photo 1280
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Hi,
I've had much the same problem with Gimp 2.2.4 and the Epson Stylus 
Photo 2100 running under Linux Mandrake LE2005.
However, while waiting for a proper colour management solution to arrive 
in gimp/gutenprint, in the interim I've been able to get a pretty good 
match between monitor and printer output  using  Turboprint  
(http://www.turboprint.de/english.html).
The only thing is that it costs (30 euros, 39 dollars) for the full 
capabilities.


Hope that may help.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing success stories?

2006-02-20 Thread John R. Culleton
On Monday 20 February 2006 07:38, Doug wrote:
 Paul Waldo wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I am evaluating gimp on linux as a replacement for Photoshop on Windows. 
  I am currently using Photoshop/Windows primarily for the color management
  capabilities.  I have tried printing from gimp to my Epson Stylus Photo
  1280, with horrible results--the colors are off by a significant amount. 
  System specifics below.  Does anyone out there use gimp for serious
  printing?  If so, please let me know your workflow and how you achieve
  color fidelity. Thanks in advance!

I am evaluating two products to use while waiting for Gimp to
adopt the CMYK color model, Scribus and Krita (part of Koffice).
Scribus is really a Quark replacement and Krita (inspired in part
by Gimp is still in an early stage. The Krita manual says it will
do CMYK but my copy doesn't have it yet. It is however very
Gimp-ish in look and feel. 

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing success stories?

2006-02-19 Thread Gracia M. Littauer
  I have tried printing from gimp to my
 Epson Stylus Photo 1280, with horrible results--the colors are off by
 a significant amount.  

I also had rotton results:
I use SuSE 10 
epson color stylus 3000
gimp 2.2.7
I forgot what driver (hsn't been installed in over a yr), but it was the 
latest gimp one. I switched printer VERY quickly to my win laptop in 
frustration. I use my card readers  old cards to transfer files that 
need GOOD color...photos, posters booklets etc, a read PITA.

I would love the not have to move files back  forth. 

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing success stories?

2006-02-19 Thread Tom Williams
Paul Waldo wrote:
 Hi all,

 I am evaluating gimp on linux as a replacement for Photoshop on Windows.  I 
 am 
 currently using Photoshop/Windows primarily for the color management 
 capabilities.  I have tried printing from gimp to my Epson Stylus Photo 1280, 
 with horrible results--the colors are off by a significant amount.  System 
 specifics below.  Does anyone out there use gimp for serious printing?  If 
 so, please let me know your workflow and how you achieve color fidelity.  
 Thanks in advance!

 Paul

 Running:
 Kubuntu Breezy
 gimp 2.2.8
 gimp-print 4.2.7
 Epson Stylus Photo 1280
   
What version of Gimp-Print are you running:

http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/index.php3

Also, are you printing through CUPS?

When I have ink in my printer, I can print just fine on my Epson Stylus
Photo 700.

Peace...

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing success stories?

2006-02-19 Thread Paul Waldo
On Sunday 19 February 2006 2:00 pm, Tom Williams wrote:
 What version of Gimp-Print are you running:

 http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/index.php3

 Also, are you printing through CUPS?

 When I have ink in my printer, I can print just fine on my Epson Stylus
 Photo 700.

 Peace...

 Tom
Hi Tom,

Running:
Kubuntu Breezy
gimp 2.2.8
gimp-print 4.2.7
Epson Stylus Photo 1280
Cups 1.1.23

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing success stories? (more info)

2006-02-19 Thread Paul Waldo
On Sunday 19 February 2006 1:04 pm, Paul Waldo wrote:
 Hi all,

 I am evaluating gimp on linux as a replacement for Photoshop on Windows.  I
 am currently using Photoshop/Windows primarily for the color management
 capabilities.  I have tried printing from gimp to my Epson Stylus Photo
 1280, with horrible results--the colors are off by a significant amount. 
 System specifics below.  Does anyone out there use gimp for serious
 printing?  If so, please let me know your workflow and how you achieve
 color fidelity. Thanks in advance!

 Paul

 Running:
 Kubuntu Breezy
 gimp 2.2.8
 gimp-print 4.2.7
 Epson Stylus Photo 1280

The most obvious issue I am having is that medium shades of gray have a green 
cast.  The cups test page's color wheel generally looks OK, except the white 
and black wedges.  The White wedge starts with what appears black in the 
center, then fades into a light green color towards the middle, then is white 
at the outside.  The Black (K) wedge is the inverse: black on the outside, 
green in the middle, and white in the center.

Paul
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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing success stories?

2006-02-19 Thread Matt Gushee

Tom Williams wrote:

Matt Gushee wrote:

Tom Williams wrote:


See if it contains some driver info that might be of help to you.  Maybe
switching to a different driver might help with your printing
problem. There is also a forum there for Epson printers that might be
of help:

If I read the original post correctly, the issue is not a printing
problem, but a *color management* problem--i.e., can the GIMP produce
good quality CMYK output?

I've hesitated to jump in because I really don't have much expertise
in this area. But I do know that for professional print work, it's not
enough to have a good printer and a good printer driver, and to have
them configured correctly. Your application also has to be able to
adjust the colors for print, and I'm afraid GIMP 2.2 can't do that.

GIMP 2.4 is supposed to have greatly improved color management,
though. Depending on your timeline, you might try the latest 2.3 beta
version, which is what will become 2.4.


Yep, assuming the drivers he's using aren't interfering with the quality
of the image output, you're absolutely correct in your assessment.  Do
you realize you *did not* copy the list in your response to me?  I was
going to copy the list with my response but I wasn't sure if you wanted
your comments on the list or not.  :)


Oops. Yes, I meant to reply to the list. Most of the mailing lists I'm 
on have replies going to the list by default. I just forgot that this 
one doesn't.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing success stories?

2006-02-19 Thread User1001
While (advanced) CYMK capabilities is a current project in Gimp 
development, the LINUXPRINTING site is valuable for the HP 
designed/created print drivers, and I assume other print drivers. I have 
an HP6122 (color duplex inkjet) and with the HP PPD file (driver) am now 
able to get more  control over the printer than I had with generic 
drivers. The driver is also recognized by all of the software that I 
use which provides for better and more complete print control. As a side 
affect, Gimp color output was truer to what it displayed, though I have 
not attempted to verify exactness nor CYMK control other than a couple 
of simplistic tests.




Tom Williams wrote:

Paul Waldo wrote:

On Sunday 19 February 2006 2:00 pm, Tom Williams wrote:
Kubuntu Breezy
gimp 2.2.8
gimp-print 4.2.7
Epson Stylus Photo 1280
Cups 1.1.23
  

Thanks for the info.  I found THIS page on your printer at the
LinuxPrinting.org site:

http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_Photo_1280

See if it contains some driver info that might be of help to you.  Maybe
switching to a different driver might help with your printing problem. 
There is also a forum there for Epson printers that might be of help:


http://www.linuxprinting.org/forums.cgi?group=linuxprinting.epson.general

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing problems

2006-01-19 Thread Marcus Planet
On Thursday 19 January 2006 09:45 am, Orlando Figueiredo wrote:
 Hello there
 I am using GImp with Fedora Core 4. I have a printer installed trough
 CUPS and everything is working perfectly except with Gimp printing
 command. When I try to print something from Gimp the printer starts
 loading and sending out white sheets and do not stop at all.
 Can anyone help me with this?
 Thank you.

Do you have the correct printer model selected in the Gimp printing dialog?

Marc




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Re: [Gimp-user] printing GIMPed photos

2005-12-07 Thread Tom Williams

Helen wrote:

Is anyone able to recommend the best (or a good) printer
for a Gimp user on a Linux (SuSE) system?  I want good
quality prints, with good color.  Cost is a factor, but
is not the most important factor.  Gimp is the only
photo-editing program I use, but I don't have to use
Gimp for printing.  I could learn to use Scribus for
printing, if that's recommended.
Thanks for any help with this.

Helen, using GIMP 2.2.9, SuSE 10
see my photos at  http://www.flickr.com/photos/ettervor/

Gimp uses Gimp-Print for printing so if you see the list of supported 
printers at the Gimp-Print website (use Google to search for Gimp-Print 
to find the URL of the site), you can find a printer that suits your 
needs best.  :)


Good luck!

Peace...

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing

2004-06-09 Thread Gary Montalbine
Tomek Grzejszczyk wrote:
Hi,
I want to print an image. I have cups installed and I can do it writing:
lp image.jpg
But when I try to print this image from gimp (which gives me really 
great flexibility to position and scale the image, and set printing 
quality), I get no result. It is strange because I see that gimp is set 
up to print by calling:

lp -s -dEpson640C -oraw
Epson640C is the only printer on my system. Some processing happens, I 
can see that load increasess, but nothing goes to the printer. Cups log 
is here:
http://62.121.81.182/pub/error_log

I've tried some other printing commands:
lp -s -dEpson640C
lp
but it only results in slightly different kind of messages in cups's log.
I'am using the following versions of software:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tomek]$ rpm -q gimp
gimp-2.0.0-1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tomek]$ rpm -q cups
cups-1.1.20-2
Greetings and thanks for help,
Tomek Grzejszczyk
I had a similar problem. I ended up using lpr and it worked. I 
have a HPdeskjet using printer model PostScript Level 2. With my 
limited printer knowledge, I don't think I have Cups installed. At 
least I don't remember configuring it. Don't even know how to check.

Hope this helps.
Gary
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Re: [Gimp-user] printing

2004-06-09 Thread Gary Montalbine
Jouni Tapio Rinne wrote:
Tomek Grzejszczyk wrote:
Hi,
I want to print an image. I have cups installed and I can do it writing:
lp image.jpg
But when I try to print this image from gimp (which gives me really 
great flexibility to position and scale the image, and set printing 
quality), I get no result. It is strange because I see that gimp is 
set up to print by calling:

lp -s -dEpson640C -oraw
I've tried some other printing commands:
lp -s -dEpson640C
lp
I don't know about your system, but in my Slackware Linux the 'lp' and 
'lpr' are both symlinks to 'lp-cups' and 'lpr-cups' respectively. I'm 
using the command

lpr -l -Pprintername
to print from Gimp.
Try 'lpr-cups' instead of 'lpr' in case your symlinks aren't set 
correctly. If you are using Postscript Level 2 on Gimp, you have to 
choose the correct PPD file for your printer, and use the command

lpr -Pprintername
to print.
JR
Thanks for the info. I am using ML10.0 and lpr does point to 
lpr-cups. However, I can print just using lpr without the PPD file 
or lpr -Pprinter plus the PPD file. I am using Postscript level 2. 
I did not notice any change in the printing results.

One other thing I can't figure out is how to change the margins. 
They appear to be preset and will not get samller. For example, I 
have  .5 set on the left and it will not decrease.

Also the media type, media source, inktype and resolution 
are blanked out.

Gary
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Re: [Gimp-user] printing

2003-12-23 Thread Khiraly
Hi!

And why the PostScript Level 2 output can't read with GV (or GS) ?
The output of latex document(and even if I print form OO.org into file,
with the ,,Generic Printer'' it can be read with gv and and naturaly
print to my EpsonC70|HP LaserJet 4L)

Here is the output of gs:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gs essai.ps 
GNU Ghostscript 7.07 (2003-05-17)
Copyright (C) 2003 artofcode LLC, Benicia, CA.  All rights reserved.
This software comes with NO WARRANTY: see the file PUBLIC for details.
Error: /undefined in 0,728
Operand stack:

Execution stack:
   %interp_exit   .runexec2   --nostringval--   --nostringval--  
--nostringval--   2   %stopped_push   --nostringval--  
--nostringval--   --nostringval--   false   1   %stopped_push   1   3  
%oparray_pop   1   3   %oparray_pop   1   3   %oparray_pop   1   3  
%oparray_pop   .runexec2   --nostringval--   --nostringval--  
--nostringval--   2   %stopped_push   --nostringval--  
--nostringval--   --nostringval--
Dictionary stack:
   --dict:1060/1123(ro)(G)--   --dict:0/20(G)--   --dict:68/200(L)--
Current allocation mode is local
Current file position is 385
GNU Ghostscript 7.07: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 

So, how can I print into file, which work with ghostScript?

Thx in advance, 
 Khiraly

2003-12-23, k keltezssel 06:24-kor Alf C Stockton ezt rta:
 On Sun, 21 Dec 2003, Josenildo Marques wrote:
 
  When I try to print with The Gimp I have to choose my printer as the
  output. If I leave the output as PostScript Level 2, all it prints is
  unreadable gibberish on many sheets of paper.
  How can I solve this ?
 
 I had exactly the same problem until I went into the printer setup and altered
 the PostScript Level 2 to my Epson C60. Now it prints fine.
 Right click in the image and select file-Print and the in Printer Settings
 selct Setup Printer and select your make and model of printer.
 Don't forget to save your settings else it will default back to PostScript
 Level 2..:-)
 
 
 
 ---
 
 Regards,
 Alf Stockton  www.stockton.co.za
 


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Re: [Gimp-user] printing

2003-12-21 Thread Marco Wessel
On Sun, Dec 21, 2003 at 04:47:35PM -0200, Josenildo Marques wrote:
 When I try to print with The Gimp I have to choose my printer as the
 output. If I leave the output as PostScript Level 2, all it prints is
 unreadable gibberish on many sheets of paper.
 How can I solve this ?

Your printer can't handle PostScript. You'll need to select your printer
model or a compatible one from the list.

Marco
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Re: [Gimp-user] printing

2003-12-21 Thread Josenildo Marques
On Sun, 2003-12-21 at 17:07, Marco Wessel wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 21, 2003 at 04:47:35PM -0200, Josenildo Marques wrote:
  When I try to print with The Gimp I have to choose my printer as the
  output. If I leave the output as PostScript Level 2, all it prints is
  unreadable gibberish on many sheets of paper.
  How can I solve this ?
 
 Your printer can't handle PostScript. You'll need to select your printer
 model or a compatible one from the list.
 
 Marco

Thanks, again, Marco.
It's an Epson Styllus Colour 580.
I am wondering if there is a way to save this setting so that I won't
need to do that every time I want to print something.

Thanks.

JM
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Re: [Gimp-user] printing

2003-12-21 Thread Marco Wessel
On Sun, Dec 21, 2003 at 08:16:47PM -0200, Josenildo Marques wrote:
 
 Thanks, again, Marco.
 It's an Epson Styllus Colour 580.
 I am wondering if there is a way to save this setting so that I won't
 need to do that every time I want to print something.
 

I'm fairly sure it can. I can't tell you how though -- I don't need to
print from GIMP, and if I would, I have a postscript-capable printer ;)

Marco
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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing in Ver 1.2.2

2002-04-18 Thread Alistair Carr

John Culleton wrote:-
 If you make your virtual desktop bigger than your physical  desktop
 then you can slide around with the mouse without resizing or using
 alt keys etc.  Here are my settings in /etc/X11/XF86Config:
--
Thanks John 
but I have tried the larger virtual desktop before and I found it extremely 
irritating.I suppose I will have to live with the leftclick/alt drag method.
I have seen this problem crop up with some other windows and I wonder why it 
happens? Is there some reason the why the people who write these apps can't 
allow smaller windows.Restrictions by display managers or something?
This is not meant as a criticism , just a query as to why it happens. 
Regards ,
Alistair 
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