Re: RANT WARNING! iiNet NBN

[Stephen Chape]

Struth Michael !
My ADSL2 speed is about 11/0.9 so that is pretty poor for NBN.

I am pretty happy with my ADSL2 speed and don’t really need NBN.
But looks like we don’t get to choose when the time comes.

> On 18 Feb 2019, at 9:23 am, Michael Hawkins 
>  wrote:
> 
> Our iPrimus experience in Doubleview, about 200 m from the node, has been 
> atrocious with download speeds of 0.10Mbps. Not at peak times, I hasten to 
> add. That “speed” was a 5:56AM. After we complained the download speed went 
> up to 35.5Mbps but as I write this it is down to 11.0 with an upload speed of 
> 0.91.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Michael Hawkins
> 
> 
> 
>> On 18 Feb 2019, at 7:53 am, Peter Hinchliffe > > wrote:
>> 
>> I have to add my endorsement for Telstra’s service as well, although I must 
>> say up front that we were transitioning from Foxtel Cable to Foxtel NBN, so 
>> there was very little to change in the way of infrastructure since they are 
>> using essentially the same cable technology. Nonetheless, apart from a few 
>> early teething problems, the move to NBN has been quite painless and well 
>> supported. 
>> 
>>> On 17 Feb 2019, at 5:40 pm, Stephen Chape >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> That has given me great confidence in the Telstra move to NBN.
>>> Thank you Robin.
>>> 
>>> I moved reluctantly from Westnet to Telstra 9 years ago when I moved house.
>>> I had been very satisfied with Westnet until I moved house.
>>> But Westnet could not offer me high speed ADSL at the time and Telstra 
>>> could.
>>> Something to do with the local Phone Sub Station ?
>>> In fact it was Westnet that suggested I should move to Telstra (which 
>>> surprised me at the time).
>>> 
>>> Anyway I have had the most wonderful experience with Telstra since then.
>>> I have rarely had to contact them with an issue.
>>> But when I have they have been very helpful, quick and efficient.
>>> 
>>> On the other hand, my step daughter is with Westnet.
>>> She has me as a contact on her Westnet account because she is not very 
>>> “tech savvy”.
>>> During the past couple of years I have had the most horrendous dealings 
>>> with Westnet on her behalf.
>>> I dread each time she has a Westnet issue and asks me to resolve it for her.
>>> 
>>> I have tried to talk her into going Telstra to make my life easier, but she 
>>> is not keen on change.
>>> 
>>> I have to say I cannot speak highly enough of Telstra.
>>> 
 On 17 Feb 2019, at 5:09 pm, Robin Belford >>> > wrote:
 
 Switching to NBN - 
 Here in Busselton, after 24 years with Westnet, with the disconnection of 
 the analogue phone service imminent I signed up with Telstra for an NBN 
 internet service.
 This consolidated all our fixed and mobile phones and now our internet 
 with one provider. 
 (I did start with Westnet, but they were unable to give any coherent 
 service offerings or timings and I moved on.)
 The deal with Telstra was done in Dec 2017 and the change over date 
 scheduled for 19 Feb 2018. 
 The modem arrived in early-January and I immediately replaced my existing 
 ADSL modem with the new VDSL modem, configured it for my existing Westnet 
 account, and continued as usual.
 On the 19 Feb, as promised, NBN Co opened the node (big box on the curb) 
 around the corner and switched switched us over.
 Only later that day when I thought to check the speed did I realised that 
 we were now on the Telstra service using the NBN and getting 15 times the 
 previous download speed.
 In a word - seamless!
 It’s been working flawlessly ever since.
 That’s the country life for you.
 
 ymmv.
 
 Regards
 
 Robin 
 
> On 17 Feb 2019, at 11:27 am, Susan Hastings  > wrote:
> 
> We had a fairly easy ride with Iinet side of things for the switch to 
> NBN, any holdups were with NBNco. As we’ve been on for a year or more the 
> pain of switchover is long forgotten. Iinet have also been reliable with 
> phone support over the years. No complaints here.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 17 Feb 2019, at 11:18 am, Peter Curtis > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> We had to go on the NBN shortly and on my brother in law’s 
>> recommendation I tried Aussie Broadband. The result has been fantastic! 
>> Cheaper, guaranteed Australian call centre (which makes a huge 
>> difference being older and deafer), constant updates of what is going on 
>> (whilst connecting) Since connecting absolutely no problems at all. I 
>> still keep waiting for the catch, but so far, none. Perhaps I was just 
>> lucky, but I’m sold.
>> Kind regards
>> Peter
>> 
>>> On 17 Feb 2019, at 8:50 am, Rod Blitvich >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sorry - smoke coming out of my ears

Re: RANT WARNING! iiNet NBN

[Michael Hawkins]

Our iPrimus experience in Doubleview, about 200 m from the node, has been 
atrocious with download speeds of 0.10Mbps. Not at peak times, I hasten to add. 
That “speed” was a 5:56AM. After we complained the download speed went up to 
35.5Mbps but as I write this it is down to 11.0 with an upload speed of 0.91.

Cheers,

Michael Hawkins



> On 18 Feb 2019, at 7:53 am, Peter Hinchliffe  
> wrote:
> 
> I have to add my endorsement for Telstra’s service as well, although I must 
> say up front that we were transitioning from Foxtel Cable to Foxtel NBN, so 
> there was very little to change in the way of infrastructure since they are 
> using essentially the same cable technology. Nonetheless, apart from a few 
> early teething problems, the move to NBN has been quite painless and well 
> supported. 
> 
>> On 17 Feb 2019, at 5:40 pm, Stephen Chape > > wrote:
>> 
>> That has given me great confidence in the Telstra move to NBN.
>> Thank you Robin.
>> 
>> I moved reluctantly from Westnet to Telstra 9 years ago when I moved house.
>> I had been very satisfied with Westnet until I moved house.
>> But Westnet could not offer me high speed ADSL at the time and Telstra could.
>> Something to do with the local Phone Sub Station ?
>> In fact it was Westnet that suggested I should move to Telstra (which 
>> surprised me at the time).
>> 
>> Anyway I have had the most wonderful experience with Telstra since then.
>> I have rarely had to contact them with an issue.
>> But when I have they have been very helpful, quick and efficient.
>> 
>> On the other hand, my step daughter is with Westnet.
>> She has me as a contact on her Westnet account because she is not very “tech 
>> savvy”.
>> During the past couple of years I have had the most horrendous dealings with 
>> Westnet on her behalf.
>> I dread each time she has a Westnet issue and asks me to resolve it for her.
>> 
>> I have tried to talk her into going Telstra to make my life easier, but she 
>> is not keen on change.
>> 
>> I have to say I cannot speak highly enough of Telstra.
>> 
>>> On 17 Feb 2019, at 5:09 pm, Robin Belford >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Switching to NBN - 
>>> Here in Busselton, after 24 years with Westnet, with the disconnection of 
>>> the analogue phone service imminent I signed up with Telstra for an NBN 
>>> internet service.
>>> This consolidated all our fixed and mobile phones and now our internet with 
>>> one provider. 
>>> (I did start with Westnet, but they were unable to give any coherent 
>>> service offerings or timings and I moved on.)
>>> The deal with Telstra was done in Dec 2017 and the change over date 
>>> scheduled for 19 Feb 2018. 
>>> The modem arrived in early-January and I immediately replaced my existing 
>>> ADSL modem with the new VDSL modem, configured it for my existing Westnet 
>>> account, and continued as usual.
>>> On the 19 Feb, as promised, NBN Co opened the node (big box on the curb) 
>>> around the corner and switched switched us over.
>>> Only later that day when I thought to check the speed did I realised that 
>>> we were now on the Telstra service using the NBN and getting 15 times the 
>>> previous download speed.
>>> In a word - seamless!
>>> It’s been working flawlessly ever since.
>>> That’s the country life for you.
>>> 
>>> ymmv.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Robin 
>>> 
 On 17 Feb 2019, at 11:27 am, Susan Hastings >>> > wrote:
 
 We had a fairly easy ride with Iinet side of things for the switch to NBN, 
 any holdups were with NBNco. As we’ve been on for a year or more the pain 
 of switchover is long forgotten. Iinet have also been reliable with phone 
 support over the years. No complaints here.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
> On 17 Feb 2019, at 11:18 am, Peter Curtis  > wrote:
> 
> Hi
> We had to go on the NBN shortly and on my brother in law’s recommendation 
> I tried Aussie Broadband. The result has been fantastic! Cheaper, 
> guaranteed Australian call centre (which makes a huge difference being 
> older and deafer), constant updates of what is going on (whilst 
> connecting) Since connecting absolutely no problems at all. I still keep 
> waiting for the catch, but so far, none. Perhaps I was just lucky, but 
> I’m sold.
> Kind regards
> Peter
> 
>> On 17 Feb 2019, at 8:50 am, Rod Blitvich > > wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry - smoke coming out of my ears
>> I guess this is the sad result of a great WA company being taken over by 
>> TPG
>> I have been a loyal iiNet customer for 25 years
>> 
>> 15 days ago I signed up with iiNet to switch from iiNet Broadband to 
>> iiNet NBN
>> After numerous stuff-ups, being on hold for 20 - 40 minutes at a time, 
>> not receiving promised call-backs, receiving a call-back yesterday FIVE 
>> hours after 

Re: RANT WARNING! iiNet NBN

[Peter Hinchliffe]

I have to add my endorsement for Telstra’s service as well, although I must say 
up front that we were transitioning from Foxtel Cable to Foxtel NBN, so there 
was very little to change in the way of infrastructure since they are using 
essentially the same cable technology. Nonetheless, apart from a few early 
teething problems, the move to NBN has been quite painless and well supported. 

> On 17 Feb 2019, at 5:40 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> That has given me great confidence in the Telstra move to NBN.
> Thank you Robin.
> 
> I moved reluctantly from Westnet to Telstra 9 years ago when I moved house.
> I had been very satisfied with Westnet until I moved house.
> But Westnet could not offer me high speed ADSL at the time and Telstra could.
> Something to do with the local Phone Sub Station ?
> In fact it was Westnet that suggested I should move to Telstra (which 
> surprised me at the time).
> 
> Anyway I have had the most wonderful experience with Telstra since then.
> I have rarely had to contact them with an issue.
> But when I have they have been very helpful, quick and efficient.
> 
> On the other hand, my step daughter is with Westnet.
> She has me as a contact on her Westnet account because she is not very “tech 
> savvy”.
> During the past couple of years I have had the most horrendous dealings with 
> Westnet on her behalf.
> I dread each time she has a Westnet issue and asks me to resolve it for her.
> 
> I have tried to talk her into going Telstra to make my life easier, but she 
> is not keen on change.
> 
> I have to say I cannot speak highly enough of Telstra.
> 
>> On 17 Feb 2019, at 5:09 pm, Robin Belford > > wrote:
>> 
>> Switching to NBN - 
>> Here in Busselton, after 24 years with Westnet, with the disconnection of 
>> the analogue phone service imminent I signed up with Telstra for an NBN 
>> internet service.
>> This consolidated all our fixed and mobile phones and now our internet with 
>> one provider. 
>> (I did start with Westnet, but they were unable to give any coherent service 
>> offerings or timings and I moved on.)
>> The deal with Telstra was done in Dec 2017 and the change over date 
>> scheduled for 19 Feb 2018. 
>> The modem arrived in early-January and I immediately replaced my existing 
>> ADSL modem with the new VDSL modem, configured it for my existing Westnet 
>> account, and continued as usual.
>> On the 19 Feb, as promised, NBN Co opened the node (big box on the curb) 
>> around the corner and switched switched us over.
>> Only later that day when I thought to check the speed did I realised that we 
>> were now on the Telstra service using the NBN and getting 15 times the 
>> previous download speed.
>> In a word - seamless!
>> It’s been working flawlessly ever since.
>> That’s the country life for you.
>> 
>> ymmv.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Robin 
>> 
>>> On 17 Feb 2019, at 11:27 am, Susan Hastings >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> We had a fairly easy ride with Iinet side of things for the switch to NBN, 
>>> any holdups were with NBNco. As we’ve been on for a year or more the pain 
>>> of switchover is long forgotten. Iinet have also been reliable with phone 
>>> support over the years. No complaints here.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
 On 17 Feb 2019, at 11:18 am, Peter Curtis >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi
 We had to go on the NBN shortly and on my brother in law’s recommendation 
 I tried Aussie Broadband. The result has been fantastic! Cheaper, 
 guaranteed Australian call centre (which makes a huge difference being 
 older and deafer), constant updates of what is going on (whilst 
 connecting) Since connecting absolutely no problems at all. I still keep 
 waiting for the catch, but so far, none. Perhaps I was just lucky, but I’m 
 sold.
 Kind regards
 Peter
 
> On 17 Feb 2019, at 8:50 am, Rod Blitvich  > wrote:
> 
> Sorry - smoke coming out of my ears
> I guess this is the sad result of a great WA company being taken over by 
> TPG
> I have been a loyal iiNet customer for 25 years
> 
> 15 days ago I signed up with iiNet to switch from iiNet Broadband to 
> iiNet NBN
> After numerous stuff-ups, being on hold for 20 - 40 minutes at a time, 
> not receiving promised call-backs, receiving a call-back yesterday FIVE 
> hours after requesting one etc I am still not connected to the NBN.
> 
> Finally my hardware arrived on Friday afternoon.
> I connected it as instructed on Saturday - guess what? It doesn’t work.
> Finally have been told today that it can’t proceed as iiNet are waiting 
> for my connection request to be lodged with NBN.CO
> I asked the caller whose job was that - she replied -“iinet’s”
> Not satisfactory?
> 
> Don’t worry sir it should all be taken care of in the next 2 to 3 days.
> And don’t disconnect 

Re: RANT WARNING! iiNet NBN

[Stephen Chape]

That has given me great confidence in the Telstra move to NBN.
Thank you Robin.

I moved reluctantly from Westnet to Telstra 9 years ago when I moved house.
I had been very satisfied with Westnet until I moved house.
But Westnet could not offer me high speed ADSL at the time and Telstra could.
Something to do with the local Phone Sub Station ?
In fact it was Westnet that suggested I should move to Telstra (which surprised 
me at the time).

Anyway I have had the most wonderful experience with Telstra since then.
I have rarely had to contact them with an issue.
But when I have they have been very helpful, quick and efficient.

On the other hand, my step daughter is with Westnet.
She has me as a contact on her Westnet account because she is not very “tech 
savvy”.
During the past couple of years I have had the most horrendous dealings with 
Westnet on her behalf.
I dread each time she has a Westnet issue and asks me to resolve it for her.

I have tried to talk her into going Telstra to make my life easier, but she is 
not keen on change.

I have to say I cannot speak highly enough of Telstra.

> On 17 Feb 2019, at 5:09 pm, Robin Belford  wrote:
> 
> Switching to NBN - 
> Here in Busselton, after 24 years with Westnet, with the disconnection of the 
> analogue phone service imminent I signed up with Telstra for an NBN internet 
> service.
> This consolidated all our fixed and mobile phones and now our internet with 
> one provider. 
> (I did start with Westnet, but they were unable to give any coherent service 
> offerings or timings and I moved on.)
> The deal with Telstra was done in Dec 2017 and the change over date scheduled 
> for 19 Feb 2018. 
> The modem arrived in early-January and I immediately replaced my existing 
> ADSL modem with the new VDSL modem, configured it for my existing Westnet 
> account, and continued as usual.
> On the 19 Feb, as promised, NBN Co opened the node (big box on the curb) 
> around the corner and switched switched us over.
> Only later that day when I thought to check the speed did I realised that we 
> were now on the Telstra service using the NBN and getting 15 times the 
> previous download speed.
> In a word - seamless!
> It’s been working flawlessly ever since.
> That’s the country life for you.
> 
> ymmv.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Robin 
> 
>> On 17 Feb 2019, at 11:27 am, Susan Hastings  wrote:
>> 
>> We had a fairly easy ride with Iinet side of things for the switch to NBN, 
>> any holdups were with NBNco. As we’ve been on for a year or more the pain of 
>> switchover is long forgotten. Iinet have also been reliable with phone 
>> support over the years. No complaints here.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 17 Feb 2019, at 11:18 am, Peter Curtis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> We had to go on the NBN shortly and on my brother in law’s recommendation I 
>>> tried Aussie Broadband. The result has been fantastic! Cheaper, guaranteed 
>>> Australian call centre (which makes a huge difference being older and 
>>> deafer), constant updates of what is going on (whilst connecting) Since 
>>> connecting absolutely no problems at all. I still keep waiting for the 
>>> catch, but so far, none. Perhaps I was just lucky, but I’m sold.
>>> Kind regards
>>> Peter
>>> 
 On 17 Feb 2019, at 8:50 am, Rod Blitvich  wrote:
 
 Sorry - smoke coming out of my ears
 I guess this is the sad result of a great WA company being taken over by 
 TPG
 I have been a loyal iiNet customer for 25 years
 
 15 days ago I signed up with iiNet to switch from iiNet Broadband to iiNet 
 NBN
 After numerous stuff-ups, being on hold for 20 - 40 minutes at a time, not 
 receiving promised call-backs, receiving a call-back yesterday FIVE hours 
 after requesting one etc I am still not connected to the NBN.
 
 Finally my hardware arrived on Friday afternoon.
 I connected it as instructed on Saturday - guess what? It doesn’t work.
 Finally have been told today that it can’t proceed as iiNet are waiting 
 for my connection request to be lodged with NBN.CO
 I asked the caller whose job was that - she replied -“iinet’s”
 Not satisfactory?
 
 Don’t worry sir it should all be taken care of in the next 2 to 3 days.
 And don’t disconnect anything in the meantime
 So now I wait for up to another 3 days with no Internet (as i had to 
 disconnect my existing Broadband.
 
 Far-Out
 
 
 
 Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
 Good Ideas 
 0409 681 256  
 rb...@iinet.net.au 
 
 
 
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Re: RANT WARNING! iiNet NBN

[Robin Belford]

Switching to NBN - 
Here in Busselton, after 24 years with Westnet, with the disconnection of the 
analogue phone service imminent I signed up with Telstra for an NBN internet 
service.
This consolidated all our fixed and mobile phones and now our internet with one 
provider. 
(I did start with Westnet, but they were unable to give any coherent service 
offerings or timings and I moved on.)
The deal with Telstra was done in Dec 2017 and the change over date scheduled 
for 19 Feb 2018. 
The modem arrived in early-January and I immediately replaced my existing ADSL 
modem with the new VDSL modem, configured it for my existing Westnet account, 
and continued as usual.
On the 19 Feb, as promised, NBN Co opened the node (big box on the curb) around 
the corner and switched switched us over.
Only later that day when I thought to check the speed did I realised that we 
were now on the Telstra service using the NBN and getting 15 times the previous 
download speed.
In a word - seamless!
It’s been working flawlessly ever since.
That’s the country life for you.

ymmv.

Regards

Robin 

> On 17 Feb 2019, at 11:27 am, Susan Hastings  wrote:
> 
> We had a fairly easy ride with Iinet side of things for the switch to NBN, 
> any holdups were with NBNco. As we’ve been on for a year or more the pain of 
> switchover is long forgotten. Iinet have also been reliable with phone 
> support over the years. No complaints here.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 17 Feb 2019, at 11:18 am, Peter Curtis  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> We had to go on the NBN shortly and on my brother in law’s recommendation I 
>> tried Aussie Broadband. The result has been fantastic! Cheaper, guaranteed 
>> Australian call centre (which makes a huge difference being older and 
>> deafer), constant updates of what is going on (whilst connecting) Since 
>> connecting absolutely no problems at all. I still keep waiting for the 
>> catch, but so far, none. Perhaps I was just lucky, but I’m sold.
>> Kind regards
>> Peter
>> 
>>> On 17 Feb 2019, at 8:50 am, Rod Blitvich  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sorry - smoke coming out of my ears
>>> I guess this is the sad result of a great WA company being taken over by TPG
>>> I have been a loyal iiNet customer for 25 years
>>> 
>>> 15 days ago I signed up with iiNet to switch from iiNet Broadband to iiNet 
>>> NBN
>>> After numerous stuff-ups, being on hold for 20 - 40 minutes at a time, not 
>>> receiving promised call-backs, receiving a call-back yesterday FIVE hours 
>>> after requesting one etc I am still not connected to the NBN.
>>> 
>>> Finally my hardware arrived on Friday afternoon.
>>> I connected it as instructed on Saturday - guess what? It doesn’t work.
>>> Finally have been told today that it can’t proceed as iiNet are waiting for 
>>> my connection request to be lodged with NBN.CO
>>> I asked the caller whose job was that - she replied -“iinet’s”
>>> Not satisfactory?
>>> 
>>> Don’t worry sir it should all be taken care of in the next 2 to 3 days.
>>> And don’t disconnect anything in the meantime
>>> So now I wait for up to another 3 days with no Internet (as i had to 
>>> disconnect my existing Broadband.
>>> 
>>> Far-Out
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>>> Good Ideas 
>>> 0409 681 256  
>>> rb...@iinet.net.au 
>>> 
>>> 
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[Susan Hastings]

We had a fairly easy ride with Iinet side of things for the switch to NBN, any 
holdups were with NBNco. As we’ve been on for a year or more the pain of 
switchover is long forgotten. Iinet have also been reliable with phone support 
over the years. No complaints here.

Sent from my iPad

> On 17 Feb 2019, at 11:18 am, Peter Curtis  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> We had to go on the NBN shortly and on my brother in law’s recommendation I 
> tried Aussie Broadband. The result has been fantastic! Cheaper, guaranteed 
> Australian call centre (which makes a huge difference being older and 
> deafer), constant updates of what is going on (whilst connecting) Since 
> connecting absolutely no problems at all. I still keep waiting for the catch, 
> but so far, none. Perhaps I was just lucky, but I’m sold.
> Kind regards
> Peter
> 
>> On 17 Feb 2019, at 8:50 am, Rod Blitvich  wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry - smoke coming out of my ears
>> I guess this is the sad result of a great WA company being taken over by TPG
>> I have been a loyal iiNet customer for 25 years
>> 
>> 15 days ago I signed up with iiNet to switch from iiNet Broadband to iiNet 
>> NBN
>> After numerous stuff-ups, being on hold for 20 - 40 minutes at a time, not 
>> receiving promised call-backs, receiving a call-back yesterday FIVE hours 
>> after requesting one etc I am still not connected to the NBN.
>> 
>> Finally my hardware arrived on Friday afternoon.
>> I connected it as instructed on Saturday - guess what? It doesn’t work.
>> Finally have been told today that it can’t proceed as iiNet are waiting for 
>> my connection request to be lodged with NBN.CO
>> I asked the caller whose job was that - she replied -“iinet’s”
>> Not satisfactory?
>> 
>> Don’t worry sir it should all be taken care of in the next 2 to 3 days.
>> And don’t disconnect anything in the meantime
>> So now I wait for up to another 3 days with no Internet (as i had to 
>> disconnect my existing Broadband.
>> 
>> Far-Out
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>> Good Ideas 
>> 0409 681 256  
>> rb...@iinet.net.au 
>> 
>> 
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Re: RANT WARNING! iiNet NBN

[Peter Curtis]

Hi
We had to go on the NBN shortly and on my brother in law’s recommendation I 
tried Aussie Broadband. The result has been fantastic! Cheaper, guaranteed 
Australian call centre (which makes a huge difference being older and deafer), 
constant updates of what is going on (whilst connecting) Since connecting 
absolutely no problems at all. I still keep waiting for the catch, but so far, 
none. Perhaps I was just lucky, but I’m sold.
Kind regards
Peter

> On 17 Feb 2019, at 8:50 am, Rod Blitvich  wrote:
> 
> Sorry - smoke coming out of my ears
> I guess this is the sad result of a great WA company being taken over by TPG
> I have been a loyal iiNet customer for 25 years
> 
> 15 days ago I signed up with iiNet to switch from iiNet Broadband to iiNet NBN
> After numerous stuff-ups, being on hold for 20 - 40 minutes at a time, not 
> receiving promised call-backs, receiving a call-back yesterday FIVE hours 
> after requesting one etc I am still not connected to the NBN.
> 
> Finally my hardware arrived on Friday afternoon.
> I connected it as instructed on Saturday - guess what? It doesn’t work.
> Finally have been told today that it can’t proceed as iiNet are waiting for 
> my connection request to be lodged with NBN.CO
> I asked the caller whose job was that - she replied -“iinet’s”
> Not satisfactory?
> 
> Don’t worry sir it should all be taken care of in the next 2 to 3 days.
> And don’t disconnect anything in the meantime
> So now I wait for up to another 3 days with no Internet (as i had to 
> disconnect my existing Broadband.
> 
> Far-Out
> 
> 
> 
> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>  Good Ideas 
>  0409 681 256  
>  rb...@iinet.net.au 
> 
> 
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Re: RANT WARNING! iiNet NBN

[Severin Crisp]

I can not see  speak highly enough of Westnet, though they are in the iiNet 
fold.  Great, prompt service and fast action where needed.  I have been with 
them for about 20 years.  
Severin Crisp


> On 17 Feb 2019, at 09:38, Mike Murray  wrote:
> 
> We need to make a move to NBN in the next few months.
> I did want to keep my email address, but…
> Does anyone have nice things to say about NBN providers???
> Worried…
> Mike
> 
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> Tel (08) 9339 8078
> International +618 9339 8078
> Mob 0407 669 376
> 
> British and Australian genealogical and historical research, 
> education, publishing, film-making and DNA consulting
> 
> www.timetrackers.com.au 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 17 Feb 2019, at 9:28 am, Brian RISBEY > > wrote:
>> 
>> Similar with ‘Bigpuddle’. Took 2-3 months to get a reliable full time 
>> connection. Countless phones calls...
>> Now working. 
>> One thing we asked for was upgrade to mobile data allowance- for free, as we 
>> had no, or unreliable, home line or internet for weeks.
>> 
>> 
>> Brian Risbey 
>> OS12.1.4 ‍☕️
>> 
>> On 17 Feb 2019, at 08:50, Rod Blitvich > > wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry - smoke coming out of my ears
>> I guess this is the sad result of a great WA company being taken over by TPG
>> I have been a loyal iiNet customer for 25 years
>> 
>> 15 days ago I signed up with iiNet to switch from iiNet Broadband to iiNet 
>> NBN
>> After numerous stuff-ups, being on hold for 20 - 40 minutes at a time, not 
>> receiving promised call-backs, receiving a call-back yesterday FIVE hours 
>> after requesting one etc I am still not connected to the NBN.
>> 
>> Finally my hardware arrived on Friday afternoon.
>> I connected it as instructed on Saturday - guess what? It doesn’t work.
>> Finally have been told today that it can’t proceed as iiNet are waiting for 
>> my connection request to be lodged with NBN.CO
>> I asked the caller whose job was that - she replied -“iinet’s”
>> Not satisfactory?
>> 
>> Don’t worry sir it should all be taken care of in the next 2 to 3 days.
>> And don’t disconnect anything in the meantime
>> So now I wait for up to another 3 days with no Internet (as i had to 
>> disconnect my existing Broadband.
>> 
>> Far-Out
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
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Re: RANT WARNING! iiNet NBN

[Barry Sexstone]

I made the change to NBN about 12 months ago with iinet and it was a seamless 
change from ADSL

Barry


> On 17 Feb 2019, at 9:38 am, Mike Murray  wrote:
> 
> We need to make a move to NBN in the next few months.
> I did want to keep my email address, but…
> Does anyone have nice things to say about NBN providers???
> Worried…
> Mike
> 
> 
> Mike Murray and Lesley Silvester
> TimeTrackers
> PO Box 197
> Melville, 6956
> Western Australia
> 
> Tel (08) 9339 8078
> International +618 9339 8078
> Mob 0407 669 376
> 
> British and Australian genealogical and historical research, 
> education, publishing, film-making and DNA consulting
> 
> www.timetrackers.com.au 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 17 Feb 2019, at 9:28 am, Brian RISBEY > > wrote:
>> 
>> Similar with ‘Bigpuddle’. Took 2-3 months to get a reliable full time 
>> connection. Countless phones calls...
>> Now working. 
>> One thing we asked for was upgrade to mobile data allowance- for free, as we 
>> had no, or unreliable, home line or internet for weeks.
>> 
>> 
>> Brian Risbey 
>> OS12.1.4 ‍☕️
>> 
>> On 17 Feb 2019, at 08:50, Rod Blitvich > > wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry - smoke coming out of my ears
>> I guess this is the sad result of a great WA company being taken over by TPG
>> I have been a loyal iiNet customer for 25 years
>> 
>> 15 days ago I signed up with iiNet to switch from iiNet Broadband to iiNet 
>> NBN
>> After numerous stuff-ups, being on hold for 20 - 40 minutes at a time, not 
>> receiving promised call-backs, receiving a call-back yesterday FIVE hours 
>> after requesting one etc I am still not connected to the NBN.
>> 
>> Finally my hardware arrived on Friday afternoon.
>> I connected it as instructed on Saturday - guess what? It doesn’t work.
>> Finally have been told today that it can’t proceed as iiNet are waiting for 
>> my connection request to be lodged with NBN.CO
>> I asked the caller whose job was that - she replied -“iinet’s”
>> Not satisfactory?
>> 
>> Don’t worry sir it should all be taken care of in the next 2 to 3 days.
>> And don’t disconnect anything in the meantime
>> So now I wait for up to another 3 days with no Internet (as i had to 
>> disconnect my existing Broadband.
>> 
>> Far-Out
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
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>>  0409 681 256  
>>  rb...@iinet.net.au  
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Re: RANT WARNING! iiNet NBN

[Stephen Chape]

M !
I am with Bigpond and recently spoke with them about my forthcoming NBN (second 
half of 2019).
They said it will happen automatically and I will get a new free modem that I 
simply plug in.
Nothing else to do.

All sounds too easy to me.
Got me worried too now !

> On 17 Feb 2019, at 9:38 am, Mike Murray  wrote:
> 
> We need to make a move to NBN in the next few months.
> I did want to keep my email address, but…
> Does anyone have nice things to say about NBN providers???
> Worried…
> Mike
> 
> 
> Mike Murray and Lesley Silvester
> TimeTrackers
> PO Box 197
> Melville, 6956
> Western Australia
> 
> Tel (08) 9339 8078
> International +618 9339 8078
> Mob 0407 669 376
> 
> British and Australian genealogical and historical research, 
> education, publishing, film-making and DNA consulting
> 
> www.timetrackers.com.au 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 17 Feb 2019, at 9:28 am, Brian RISBEY > > wrote:
>> 
>> Similar with ‘Bigpuddle’. Took 2-3 months to get a reliable full time 
>> connection. Countless phones calls...
>> Now working. 
>> One thing we asked for was upgrade to mobile data allowance- for free, as we 
>> had no, or unreliable, home line or internet for weeks.
>> 
>> 
>> Brian Risbey 
>> OS12.1.4 ‍☕️
>> 
>> On 17 Feb 2019, at 08:50, Rod Blitvich > > wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry - smoke coming out of my ears
>> I guess this is the sad result of a great WA company being taken over by TPG
>> I have been a loyal iiNet customer for 25 years
>> 
>> 15 days ago I signed up with iiNet to switch from iiNet Broadband to iiNet 
>> NBN
>> After numerous stuff-ups, being on hold for 20 - 40 minutes at a time, not 
>> receiving promised call-backs, receiving a call-back yesterday FIVE hours 
>> after requesting one etc I am still not connected to the NBN.
>> 
>> Finally my hardware arrived on Friday afternoon.
>> I connected it as instructed on Saturday - guess what? It doesn’t work.
>> Finally have been told today that it can’t proceed as iiNet are waiting for 
>> my connection request to be lodged with NBN.CO
>> I asked the caller whose job was that - she replied -“iinet’s”
>> Not satisfactory?
>> 
>> Don’t worry sir it should all be taken care of in the next 2 to 3 days.
>> And don’t disconnect anything in the meantime
>> So now I wait for up to another 3 days with no Internet (as i had to 
>> disconnect my existing Broadband.
>> 
>> Far-Out
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
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>>  0409 681 256  
>>  rb...@iinet.net.au  
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[Mike Murray]

We need to make a move to NBN in the next few months.
I did want to keep my email address, but…
Does anyone have nice things to say about NBN providers???
Worried…
Mike


Mike Murray and Lesley Silvester
TimeTrackers
PO Box 197
Melville, 6956
Western Australia

Tel (08) 9339 8078
International +618 9339 8078
Mob 0407 669 376

British and Australian genealogical and historical research, 
education, publishing, film-making and DNA consulting

www.timetrackers.com.au







> On 17 Feb 2019, at 9:28 am, Brian RISBEY  wrote:
> 
> Similar with ‘Bigpuddle’. Took 2-3 months to get a reliable full time 
> connection. Countless phones calls...
> Now working. 
> One thing we asked for was upgrade to mobile data allowance- for free, as we 
> had no, or unreliable, home line or internet for weeks.
> 
> 
> Brian Risbey 
> OS12.1.4 ‍☕️
> 
> On 17 Feb 2019, at 08:50, Rod Blitvich  > wrote:
> 
> Sorry - smoke coming out of my ears
> I guess this is the sad result of a great WA company being taken over by TPG
> I have been a loyal iiNet customer for 25 years
> 
> 15 days ago I signed up with iiNet to switch from iiNet Broadband to iiNet NBN
> After numerous stuff-ups, being on hold for 20 - 40 minutes at a time, not 
> receiving promised call-backs, receiving a call-back yesterday FIVE hours 
> after requesting one etc I am still not connected to the NBN.
> 
> Finally my hardware arrived on Friday afternoon.
> I connected it as instructed on Saturday - guess what? It doesn’t work.
> Finally have been told today that it can’t proceed as iiNet are waiting for 
> my connection request to be lodged with NBN.CO
> I asked the caller whose job was that - she replied -“iinet’s”
> Not satisfactory?
> 
> Don’t worry sir it should all be taken care of in the next 2 to 3 days.
> And don’t disconnect anything in the meantime
> So now I wait for up to another 3 days with no Internet (as i had to 
> disconnect my existing Broadband.
> 
> Far-Out
> 
> 
> 
> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
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>  0409 681 256  
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[Brian RISBEY]

Similar with ‘Bigpuddle’. Took 2-3 months to get a reliable full time 
connection. Countless phones calls...
Now working. 
One thing we asked for was upgrade to mobile data allowance- for free, as we 
had no, or unreliable, home line or internet for weeks.


Brian Risbey 
OS12.1.4 ‍☕️

On 17 Feb 2019, at 08:50, Rod Blitvich  wrote:

Sorry - smoke coming out of my ears
I guess this is the sad result of a great WA company being taken over by TPG
I have been a loyal iiNet customer for 25 years

15 days ago I signed up with iiNet to switch from iiNet Broadband to iiNet NBN
After numerous stuff-ups, being on hold for 20 - 40 minutes at a time, not 
receiving promised call-backs, receiving a call-back yesterday FIVE hours after 
requesting one etc I am still not connected to the NBN.

Finally my hardware arrived on Friday afternoon.
I connected it as instructed on Saturday - guess what? It doesn’t work.
Finally have been told today that it can’t proceed as iiNet are waiting for my 
connection request to be lodged with NBN.CO
I asked the caller whose job was that - she replied -“iinet’s”
Not satisfactory?

Don’t worry sir it should all be taken care of in the next 2 to 3 days.
And don’t disconnect anything in the meantime
So now I wait for up to another 3 days with no Internet (as i had to disconnect 
my existing Broadband.

Far-Out



Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
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 Good Ideas 
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RANT WARNING! iiNet NBN

[Rod Blitvich]

Sorry - smoke coming out of my ears
I guess this is the sad result of a great WA company being taken over by TPG
I have been a loyal iiNet customer for 25 years

15 days ago I signed up with iiNet to switch from iiNet Broadband to iiNet NBN
After numerous stuff-ups, being on hold for 20 - 40 minutes at a time, not 
receiving promised call-backs, receiving a call-back yesterday FIVE hours after 
requesting one etc I am still not connected to the NBN.

Finally my hardware arrived on Friday afternoon.
I connected it as instructed on Saturday - guess what? It doesn’t work.
Finally have been told today that it can’t proceed as iiNet are waiting for my 
connection request to be lodged with NBN.CO
I asked the caller whose job was that - she replied -“iinet’s”
Not satisfactory?

Don’t worry sir it should all be taken care of in the next 2 to 3 days.
And don’t disconnect anything in the meantime
So now I wait for up to another 3 days with no Internet (as i had to disconnect 
my existing Broadband.

Far-Out



Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
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Re: Virus Warning

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Blitto,

W97M.Downloader is a malicious macro that may arrive as a Word document 
attachment in spam emails.
When the Word document is opened, the macro attempts to download and execute 
malware from a remote location.
Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


> On 22 Sep. 2016, at 5:26 pm, Rod Blitvich <rb...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> 
> Hi
> My wife’s macbook from DET  has a Macafee warning:
> “Detected as W97M/Downloader.asi
> Action: Quarantined"
> 
> It is running fine
> Anything to worry about?
> please
> ta
> Blitto
> 
> 
> 
> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
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Virus Warning

[Rod Blitvich]

Hi
My wife’s macbook from DET  has a Macafee warning:
“Detected as W97M/Downloader.asi
Action: Quarantined"

It is running fine
Anything to worry about?
please
ta
Blitto



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Warning - fake apple store $100 credit emails - credit card phishing attempt

[Mark Secker]

Warning -  fake apple store $100 credit emails - credit card phishing
attempt

I just received an email sent to my works  marketing mailing list address
(first alarm bell)  purporting to be from Apple Australia - with the
address of Apple Store applef...@apple.com and  a valid link to
www.apple.com/au in it saying that I (apple customer not personally
addressed to me - second  alarm bell) had received $100 store credit



Apart from the sounds too be true  alarm also the attached html (which I
opened in BBEDIT to read the raw HTML  needed information that would not
be needed by a company to give credit card credit  including stuff such as
your credit card's online service password and Personal ID checking
details such as mother's maiden name etc etc (and apple already knows the
necessary information to give store credit - and has its own store  gift
cards) 


mark.sec...@uwa.edu.au
Mark Secker (Ba. Bus. IS/IP, ECU)
Teaching Facilities Administrator
Business School IT Services

The University of Western Australia - CRICOS provider number 00126G
M261 35 Stirling Highway, Crawley 6009
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Firefox email Scam/Trojan warning

[Ronda Brown]

Hello WAMUG Firefox users,

There is an email doing the rounds ‘again’ (as I just received 2), that says it 
is From: Mozilla Firefox no-re...@updating.net

This is NOT from Mozilla Firefox! Mozilla would definitely not send an email 
prompting you to upgrade. 
If anything, a notification would appear within Firefox itself.

This is what the message says:
/Quote:
New update arrive.

Your security is our top priority. Our open source security process means we 
have an international community of experts working around the clock to monitor 
the latest threats. As soon as a security threat is discovered, we write a 
patch and release an update to stay one step ahead. Downloading Firefox updates 
is a very important part of staying safe online.
Firefox is constantly evolving as our community finds ways to make it better, 
and as we adjust to the latest security threats. Keeping your Firefox 
up-to-date is the best way to make sure that you are using the smartest, 
fastest and . most importantly . safest version of Firefox available.
A Firefox update will not make any changes to your bookmarks, saved passwords 
or other settings. However, there is a possibility that some of your Add-ons 
won.t be immediately compatible with new updates.
Re-installing Firefox will not affect your settings, bookmarks or preferences 
in any way.
A Firefox software update is a quick download of small amounts of new code to 
your existing Firefox browser. These small patches can contain security fixes 
or other little changes to the browser to ensure that you are using the best 
version of Firefox available.
Update in a click : http://mail.xx 
/ End Quote:

I’ve omitted the address above for security, I don’t want someone accidentally 
clicking on it ;-)

The link ‘possibly’ contains a Windows Trojan (which should not worry a Mac), 
but if you do receive one of these emails DONT’ click on the Link!
Just DELETE the email.


Cheers,
Ronni

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2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

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Internet application warning won't go away

[Neil Houghton]

Hi all,

I just set-up my laptop for our coming holiday I also ended up re-installing
Dropbox - but now I keep getting the warning about Dropbox being an
application downloaded from the internet - I expect to get this message the
FIRST time I open it after downloading - but it keeps coming up everytime I
start-up and dropbox launches.

Any ideas?


Cheers



Neil
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Albany, Western Australia
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Re: Internet application warning won't go away

[Ronda Brown]

On 11/09/2011, at 4:12 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:

 
 Hi all,
 
 I just set-up my laptop for our coming holiday I also ended up re-installing
 Dropbox - but now I keep getting the warning about Dropbox being an
 application downloaded from the internet - I expect to get this message the
 FIRST time I open it after downloading - but it keeps coming up everytime I
 start-up and dropbox launches.
 
 Any ideas?

Hi Neil,

Did you click ‘Yes’ the first time you received this warning?
If so you can disable that warning, per-item or permanently.

Using the Terminal, Snow Leopard (10.6) users can enter this command, 
substituting ~/Downloads (the Downloads folder inside the user folder) for 
whatever file or folder where they'd like to prevent future download warnings.

Firstly upgrade to the latest version of Dropbox.  If that doesn't work, try 
running the following code in a Terminal window. 

xattr -d -r com.apple.quarantine /Applications/Dropbox.app



Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
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OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard 
OS X 10.7 Lion
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Re: Internet application warning won't go away

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 11/09/2011, at 4:12 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:

 
 Hi all,
 
 I just set-up my laptop for our coming holiday I also ended up re-installing
 Dropbox - but now I keep getting the warning about Dropbox being an
 application downloaded from the internet - I expect to get this message the
 FIRST time I open it after downloading - but it keeps coming up everytime I
 start-up and dropbox launches.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 
 Neil
 -- 
 Neil R. Houghton
 Albany, Western Australia
 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: n...@possumology.com


I almost hesitate to ask, but... you're not running the app from a disk image 
by any chance, are you? This can happen if you somehow managed to install the 
app as an alias rather than an actual copy. 

It's about the only explanation I can think of which accounts for that 
behaviour.

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

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Re: Internet application warning won't go away

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Peter ( Hi Ronni for previous response),

I think I have got to the bottom of this - bear with the preamble - I get to
the point eventually ;o)


Since I hadn't used the laptop for some while, I decided on an erase and
clean install of OSX - which I did - setting up a computer admin account
which I do on all my computers - I leave this as a clean account to fall
back on for any troubleshooting.

Then, in preparation for the trip, a migration of my user account from my
iMac and a migration of Georgie's user account from her iMac.

My iMac runs Snow Leopard but the laptop and Geoorgie's G5 iMac both run
Leopard (I need to install more RAM before putting SL on the laptop). The
idea was I would transfer user data, applications, settings etc from my iMac
and then just user data for Georgie from her iMac.

Migration assistant worked perfectly (as expected) for the transfer between
the two Leopard machines - messages that made sense, time estimates that
made sense and progress bars that showed, well, progress.

Migration assistant, however, really didn't work well doing the transfer
from the SL iMac to the laptop. I selected the options I wanted OK but it
told me that the data to transfer was 0kb (or Mb I don't really remember)
and rapidly progressed to one minute remaining, spinning barber pole
progress bar - where it stayed for the requisite hours it took to transfer
some 80 GB of user data.

User data seemed to transfer OK - but no applications - so I went ahead and
installed all the applications manually (plus all the relevant application
updates :o(

Now, getting to the point, I installed the applications while logged in as
Computer admin - including Dropbox.

However, once everything was installed, updated, permissions repaired
(again) and backed up, I then logged in as me to my user account, to start
working and it was while logged in to this account (my main user account)
that I would have launched Dropbox and kept getting the warnings.

This eventually occurred to me and on checking get info on the dropbox
account only computer admin had read/write permission for the application
- so I thought that write access to the app might be needed to reset the
warning flag?? (I don't really know how this works - but it seemed
possible!) So (in get info) I added my user name to the applications
permissions and gave myself read/write permission.

At first it seemed nothing had changed but after a relaunch of dropbox and a
reboot of the computer, the warnings seem to have gone :o))

So, I'm not really sure if it was my fix that fixed it - but anyway it
seems fixed


Cheers



Neil
-- 
Neil R. Houghton
Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com



on 12/9/11 7:25 AM, Peter Hinchliffe at hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote:

 
 
 On 11/09/2011, at 4:12 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 I just set-up my laptop for our coming holiday I also ended up re-installing
 Dropbox - but now I keep getting the warning about Dropbox being an
 application downloaded from the internet - I expect to get this message the
 FIRST time I open it after downloading - but it keeps coming up everytime I
 start-up and dropbox launches.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 
 Neil
 -- 
 Neil R. Houghton
 Albany, Western Australia
 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: n...@possumology.com
 
 
 I almost hesitate to ask, but... you're not running the app from a disk image
 by any chance, are you? This can happen if you somehow managed to install the
 app as an alias rather than an actual copy.
 
 It's about the only explanation I can think of which accounts for that
 behaviour.
 
 Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
 FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
 Perth, Western Australia
 Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
 
 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
 
 





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Re: Warning: MS Word 14 fails with old Word documents

[Ronda Brown]

On 13/07/2011, at 10:57 AM, Ray Forma wrote:

 
 Beware; if you are thinking about upgrading to M$ Word V14, also known as 
 Word:Mac 2011, then, before updating, do update any older Word documents that 
 you may have.
 
 I tried to open Word 97 documents with the current Word V14 and they all 
 slowed the app to a crawl. After a long wait an empty document, or some 
 rubbish appeared.
 
 Luckily, I also had access to MS Word V12 (Word 2008 for Mac), and it managed 
 to successfully open most of the old docs and save them in a more recent 
 format. Pages V4 did not recognise the old documents. TextEdit 1.6 opened the 
 old docs, but only as plain text files with all of the formatting mumbo-jumbo 
 included.
 
 Moral of the story:  The current version of M$ Word does not seem to be able 
 to open older versions of Word files, so update old valuable documents before 
 you upgrade. It is probably also a good idea to save copies in rich text 
 format, which will probably have a longer archival life.

Hi Ray,

I guess you have tried the solutions found here to open documents created un a 
previous version.

 Documents will not open in Word 2011 if they have been created in a previous 
version

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/953266

1. Start Word for Mac application.
2. On the File menu, click Open.
3. In the Convert File window, scroll down and select Recover Text from any 
file. You may get a warning, click OK. Note: Some formatting might change.
4. On the File menu, click Save As.
5. In the Format list, select Word Document (.docx), then click Save.

Cheers,
Ronni

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Warning: MS Word 14 fails with old Word documents

[Ray Forma]

Beware; if you are thinking about upgrading to M$ Word V14, also known as 
Word:Mac 2011, then, before updating, do update any older Word documents that 
you may have.

I tried to open Word 97 documents with the current Word V14 and they all slowed 
the app to a crawl. After a long wait an empty document, or some rubbish 
appeared.

Luckily, I also had access to MS Word V12 (Word 2008 for Mac), and it managed 
to successfully open most of the old docs and save them in a more recent 
format. Pages V4 did not recognise the old documents. TextEdit 1.6 opened the 
old docs, but only as plain text files with all of the formatting mumbo-jumbo 
included.

Moral of the story:  The current version of M$ Word does not seem to be able to 
open older versions of Word files, so update old valuable documents before you 
upgrade. It is probably also a good idea to save copies in rich text format, 
which will probably have a longer archival life.

Regards,

Ray Forma
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Re: Warning: MS Word 14 fails with old Word documents

[Renew Editors Writers]

Or maybe do as I did.  Delete the old Office package (PPT/XL/Word)   And then 
install the 2011.   Never missed a beat, never touched any doc at all.If I 
have any grumble its all that fruit at the top of the page that I rarely need.  
 Still do not know how get rid of it!
Bill
- Original Message -
From: Ray Forma r...@smartchat.net.au
To: List Mailing WAMUG wamug@wamug.org.au
Sent: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 10:57:13 +0800 (WST)
Subject: Warning: MS Word 14 fails with old Word documents


Beware; if you are thinking about upgrading to M$ Word V14, also known as 
Word:Mac 2011, then, before updating, do update any older Word documents that 
you may have.

I tried to open Word 97 documents with the current Word V14 and they all slowed 
the app to a crawl. After a long wait an empty document, or some rubbish 
appeared.

Luckily, I also had access to MS Word V12 (Word 2008 for Mac), and it managed 
to successfully open most of the old docs and save them in a more recent 
format. Pages V4 did not recognise the old documents. TextEdit 1.6 opened the 
old docs, but only as plain text files with all of the formatting mumbo-jumbo 
included.

Moral of the story:  The current version of M$ Word does not seem to be able to 
open older versions of Word files, so update old valuable documents before you 
upgrade. It is probably also a good idea to save copies in rich text format, 
which will probably have a longer archival life.

Regards,

Ray Forma
Mob +61 (0) 428 596938


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Re: Phishing warning on WAMUG messages.

[Kyle Kreusch]

Hi Paul


 Some weeks ago gmail informed me that my account had been accessed from a
 computer in Singapore.


I love that security feature.


 My guess is that gmail is being rightfully suspicious of emails from my
 address. I feel dirty ;)


maybe, but can't see why unless your account was used to send out a ton of
e-mail.


 The others? Not sure, may just be looking at cookies or something and
 deeming those accounts 'noteworthy', guilty by proximity to some site or
 activity? Will likely pass.


it also could be that their e-mail address is getting used for a reply
address when spam messages have been sent out.

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Re: Phishing warning on WAMUG messages.

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 06/07/2011, at 1:08 PM, Kyle Kreusch wrote:

 Hi, David and All WAMUG
 
 Gmail has recently made changes to The way they detecte Phishing e-mails, You 
 can find out more here on the Gmail blog. But to put it simply no one 
 actually sends you a e-mail when replying to this list Their e-mail goes to 
 'wamug@wamug.org.au and then is Re-sent on to you. that's why now Gmail is 
 detecting that the e-mail is not sent via the original e-mail address.
 
 I would say it's pretty safe to ignore this message from all the e-mails sent 
 to WAMUG.
 
 
 Hope this makes some sense, if not I will clarify some more after I get some 
 sleep.



...and not being a gMail user, I'm not seeing any these messages at all.


Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

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Re: Phishing warning on WAMUG messages.

[Paul K]

Hi all,

Some weeks ago gmail informed me that my account had been accessed from a
computer in Singapore. Password quickly changed. My guess is that gmail is
being rightfully suspicious of emails from my address. I feel dirty ;) The
others? Not sure, may just be looking at cookies or something and deeming
those accounts 'noteworthy', guilty by proximity to some site or activity?
Will likely pass.

Cheers
Paul



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Re: Phishing warning on WAMUG messages.

[Ronda Brown]

On 06/07/2011, at 11:54 AM, David Noel wrote:

 -- I noticed a warning about phishing in some of Carlo's WAMUG postings, and 
 mentioned it to him off list. Now these warnings are increasing on WAMUG 
 emails -- see 4 recent instances attached.
 
 -- I don't suppose the matter is important, still it would be good to know 
 why it's happening
 
 Cheers --
 
 David Noel
 2011 Jul 6
 
 Screen shot 2011-07-06 at 11.46.41 AM.pngScreen shot 2011-07-06 at 
 11.46.59 AM.pngScreen shot 2011-07-06 at 11.47.28 AM.pngScreen shot 
 2011-07-06 at 11.47.55 AM.png


Hi David,

Either you have some “Spam or Phishing” setting in your Mail Account, or your 
ISP has.

Cheers,
Ronni

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2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

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Re: Phishing warning on WAMUG messages.

[cm]

Hi David,

I had a look at my setup when you sent me that message and it looks OK to me. 
The email is going through the correct server with the very same email address 
and password authentication as the cm200912 account. I am not sure what the 
problem is but others are also seeing this warning and think it may be a false 
positive from Google's phishing filter.

http://www.google.es/support/forum/p/gmail/thread?tid=13963a50d8da1ac1hl=en

If anyone else has any ideas please let me know.

Cheers,
Carlo


On 2011-07-06, at 11:54, David Noel wrote:

 -- I noticed a warning about phishing in some of Carlo's WAMUG postings, and 
 mentioned it to him off list. Now these warnings are increasing on WAMUG 
 emails -- see 4 recent instances attached.
 
 -- I don't suppose the matter is important, still it would be good to know 
 why it's happening
 
 Cheers --
 
 David Noel
 2011 Jul 6
 
 Screen shot 2011-07-06 at 11.46.41 AM.pngScreen shot 2011-07-06 at 
 11.46.59 AM.pngScreen shot 2011-07-06 at 11.47.28 AM.pngScreen shot 
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Re: Phishing warning on WAMUG messages.

[Rod Lavington]

I definitely sent that Powerbook for sale message, so it wasn't phishing in
that instance.

As you can see, I also use gmail, but I am not getting any of those
warnings.

Seeya

Rod


On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:11 PM, cm cm200...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hi David,

 I had a look at my setup when you sent me that message and it looks OK to
 me. The email is going through the correct server with the very same email
 address and password authentication as the cm200912 account. I am not sure
 what the problem is but others are also seeing this warning and think it may
 be a false positive from Google's phishing filter.


 http://www.google.es/support/forum/p/gmail/thread?tid=13963a50d8da1ac1hl=en

 If anyone else has any ideas please let me know.

 Cheers,
 Carlo


 On 2011-07-06, at 11:54, David Noel wrote:

  -- I noticed a warning about phishing in some of Carlo's WAMUG postings,
 and mentioned it to him off list. Now these warnings are increasing on WAMUG
 emails -- see 4 recent instances attached.
 
  -- I don't suppose the matter is important, still it would be good to
 know why it's happening
 
  Cheers --
 
  David Noel
  2011 Jul 6
 
  Screen shot 2011-07-06 at 11.46.41 AM.pngScreen shot 2011-07-06 at
 11.46.59 AM.pngScreen shot 2011-07-06 at 11.47.28 AM.pngScreen shot
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Re: Phishing warning on WAMUG messages.

[Rod Lavington]

Whoops, on that particular email thread I do also have the phishing warnings
in gmail.

Cheers

Rod



On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Rod Lavington rodl...@gmail.com wrote:

 I definitely sent that Powerbook for sale message, so it wasn't phishing in
 that instance.

 As you can see, I also use gmail, but I am not getting any of those
 warnings.

 Seeya

 Rod


 On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:11 PM, cm cm200...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hi David,

 I had a look at my setup when you sent me that message and it looks OK to
 me. The email is going through the correct server with the very same email
 address and password authentication as the cm200912 account. I am not sure
 what the problem is but others are also seeing this warning and think it may
 be a false positive from Google's phishing filter.


 http://www.google.es/support/forum/p/gmail/thread?tid=13963a50d8da1ac1hl=en

 If anyone else has any ideas please let me know.

 Cheers,
 Carlo


 On 2011-07-06, at 11:54, David Noel wrote:

  -- I noticed a warning about phishing in some of Carlo's WAMUG postings,
 and mentioned it to him off list. Now these warnings are increasing on WAMUG
 emails -- see 4 recent instances attached.
 
  -- I don't suppose the matter is important, still it would be good to
 know why it's happening
 
  Cheers --
 
  David Noel
  2011 Jul 6
 
  Screen shot 2011-07-06 at 11.46.41 AM.pngScreen shot 2011-07-06 at
 11.46.59 AM.pngScreen shot 2011-07-06 at 11.47.28 AM.pngScreen shot
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Re: Phishing warning on WAMUG messages.

[Kyle Kreusch]

Hi, David and All WAMUG

Gmail has recently made changes to The way they detecte Phishing e-mails,
You can find out more here on the Gmail
bloghttp://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2011/06/protect-yourself-from-scams-by-knowing.html.
But to put it simply no one actually sends you a e-mail when replying to
this list Their e-mail goes to 'wamug@wamug.org.au and then is Re-sent on
to you. that's why now Gmail is detecting that the e-mail is not sent via
the original e-mail address.

I would say it's pretty safe to ignore this message from all the e-mails
sent to WAMUG.


Hope this makes some sense, if not I will clarify some more after I get some
sleep.

--
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Firefox v 4 warning

[Michael Hawkins]

This morning MacUpdate Desktop downloaded and installed Firefox v4 on my
MacBook OS 10.6.6.

Unfortunately, v4 overwrote v3 without importing useful items such as
bookmarks and preferences (including user names and passwords for various
web-sites).

Fortunately I had made a Time Machine back-up this morning.

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Re: Warning: Apple Store Fishing Attack Adobe, Edition

[Rob Davies]

Morning Kyle,

Thanks, have received same forwarded to Apple Australia and Apple USA with 
captured addresses.

Cheers!
RobD...

On 28Jan2011, at 5:13 pm, Kyle Kreusch wrote:

 Hi, All (GMUG) and WAMUG
 
 I felt compelled to warn people that there is currently an Apple Store 
 fishing attack regarding Cheap versions of Adobe products, All day I have 
 been receiving several e-mails at several different e-mail accounts That look 
 like they're from the Apple Store.
 
 Clicking on links in the e-mails (not recommended) send you to a website that 
 looks exactly like the Apple Store but it is not they ask you to log in so 
 they can capture your Apple login details. Also in a couple of the other 
 e-mails They take you to a website that looks like an Apple webpage That then 
 tells you we are redirecting you to one of our partners online stores.
 
 --
 Regards Kyle
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Re: Warning: Apple Store Fishing Attack Adobe, Edition

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Kyle,

Sounds similar to the phishing attack back in September 2010
Apple customers target of convincing Apple Store phishing site
http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/security-bytes/apple-customers-target-of-convincing-apple-store-phishing-site/

Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 28/01/2011, at 5:13 PM, Kyle Kreusch kylekreu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, All (GMUG) and WAMUG
 
 I felt compelled to warn people that there is currently an Apple Store 
 fishing attack regarding Cheap versions of Adobe products, All day I have 
 been receiving several e-mails at several different e-mail accounts That look 
 like they're from the Apple Store.
 
 Clicking on links in the e-mails (not recommended) send you to a website that 
 looks exactly like the Apple Store but it is not they ask you to log in so 
 they can capture your Apple login details. Also in a couple of the other 
 e-mails They take you to a website that looks like an Apple webpage That then 
 tells you we are redirecting you to one of our partners online stores.
 
 --
 Regards Kyle
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Re: Warning: Apple Store Fishing Attack Adobe, Edition

[mince and pud]

Hi all

When you get potentially dodgy emails with links in them it is  
revealing to click and drag the links a little way, which shows the  
real url. If it matches the link text all is probably well (though  
still use your judgement)- if it's a long, complicated affair ending  
in .ru you might want to avoid


best
alastair



On 28/01/2011, at 10:51 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Kyle,

Sounds similar to the phishing attack back in September 2010
Apple customers target of convincing Apple Store phishing site
http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/security-bytes/apple-customers-target-of-convincing-apple-store-phishing-site/ 



Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 28/01/2011, at 5:13 PM, Kyle Kreusch kylekreu...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi, All (GMUG) and WAMUG

I felt compelled to warn people that there is currently an Apple  
Store fishing attack regarding Cheap versions of Adobe products,  
All day I have been receiving several e-mails at several different  
e-mail accounts That look like they're from the Apple Store.


Clicking on links in the e-mails (not recommended) send you to a  
website that looks exactly like the Apple Store but it is not they  
ask you to log in so they can capture your Apple login details.  
Also in a couple of the other e-mails They take you to a website  
that looks like an Apple webpage That then tells you we are  
redirecting you to one of our partners online stores.


--
Regards Kyle
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Re: Financial Advice from the Storm warning about buying a car

[Denise Williams]

 Hi All
 Thanks for forwarding this about SYNERGY rebate.
 We were out for more than 12 hours so I tried to submit my claim but at the
 end of putting in all my details, the email that should have gone through, via
 their web page, failed. I also needed a username and password.
 Might try again later - $80 is $80, after all!
 And on another issue. If anyone is thinking of grabbing a bargain at the car
 yards BEWARE of not being able to get insurance coverage. Our insurer won¹t
 even give THIRD PARTY insurance to a car that has ANY damage. Not happy. So
 our son is driving around without ANY insurance (we thought he had 3rd party
 but on investigation, find he hasn¹t). His car resembles a golf ball¹s
 surface, having been parked at UWA. They may give  you 3rd party if you swap
 your existing policy onto another car.
 
 Cheers
 Denise williams
 
 
 
 
 I received the text below from what I believe to be a reliable source
 I do not have a claim but others may be interested to know of this
 
 Graeme Winters
 Imac 27
 
 I hope you have survived the storm and enjoy the new speed dimples your car
 may now possess. You may not be aware that Western Power will rebate $80 off
 your next bill if your power was out for more than 12 hours. The form to claim
 this is available here ;
  
 http://www.westernpower.com.au/mainContent/yourPowerSupply/extendedOutage/EOP
 S_Claim_Form.html
  
  
 
 





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Re: Financial Advice from the Storm warning about buying a car

[David Nicholas]

Denise, and others south/east of the river

I succeeded in lodging a claim with Western Power.  I didn't use  
Graeme's link, but entered the address manually, as far as / 
yourPowerSupply/  and then I selected the rest progressively.


Our power was off for over 50 hours so I think we will meet the 12 hr  
figure.


David



On 26/03/2010, at 7:02 AM, Denise Williams wrote:


Hi All
Thanks for forwarding this about SYNERGY rebate.
We were out for more than 12 hours so I tried to submit my claim  
but at the end of putting in all my details, the email that should  
have gone through, via their web page, failed. I also needed a  
username and password.

Might try again later - $80 is $80, after all!
And on another issue. If anyone is thinking of grabbing a bargain  
at the car yards BEWARE of not being able to get insurance  
coverage. Our insurer won’t even give THIRD PARTY insurance to a  
car that has ANY damage. Not happy. So our son is driving around  
without ANY insurance (we thought he had 3rd party but on  
investigation, find he hasn’t). His car resembles a golf ball’s  
surface, having been parked at UWA. They may give  you 3rd party if  
you swap your existing policy onto another car.


Cheers
Denise williams




I received the text below from what I believe to be a reliable source
I do not have a claim but others may be interested to know of this

Graeme Winters
Imac 27

I hope you have survived the storm and enjoy the new speed dimples  
your car may now possess. You may not be aware that Western Power  
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Re: Warning about IE browers on the ABC

[Stuart Breden]

IE for Mac is not better than Safari!

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Kalamunda WA 6926
Ph: (08) 9257 1577
Mbl: 0417 053 266



On 19/01/2010, at 11:40 AM, David Nicholas wrote:

This is a very interesting story posted on ABC news this morning.   
You can read it at


http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/01/19/2795684.htm

Here is the intro

The Federal Government has ramped up warnings about Microsoft's web  
browser Internet Explorer, which has come under attack from hackers.
The Government is warning that people risk having their computers  
infiltrated and passwords stolen unless they install temporary fixes  
from Microsoft or use alternative browsers.
The Government says Microsoft has acknowledged all recent versions  
of the program are vulnerable.


Of course we've known that for years

David

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Re: Warning about IE browers on the ABC

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 19/01/2010, at 7:51 PM, Stuart Breden wrote:

 IE for Mac is not better than Safari!
 
 Stuart Breden
 PO Box 132
 Kalamunda WA 6926
 Ph: (08) 9257 1577
 Mbl: 0417 053 266
 

IE for the Mac is not better than anything!

The article, like almost all IT articles in the General Press, is not for the 
benefit of Mac users, because there are so few of us... 

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Warning about IE browers on the ABC

[David Nicholas]

This is a very interesting story posted on ABC news this morning.  You  
can read it at


http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/01/19/2795684.htm

Here is the intro

The Federal Government has ramped up warnings about Microsoft's web  
browser Internet Explorer, which has come under attack from hackers.
The Government is warning that people risk having their computers  
infiltrated and passwords stolen unless they install temporary fixes  
from Microsoft or use alternative browsers.
The Government says Microsoft has acknowledged all recent versions of  
the program are vulnerable.


Of course we've known that for years

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Growl App - Console Log warning

[Alan Smith]

What should I do with Console now it is on the Dock and logging new data
frequently?This morning the Console log popped onto desktop at the same
time as the requested DiskUtility.log.(Coincidence?)   Console shows a
steady count of 4000 messages so I assume the oldest entries are being
removed.   Recent messages mainly relate to the Growl application.

 

I never requested Growl but it recently self installed.   It appeared about
the time I installed DropBox.   Is the Growl app necessary or even useful?
The last couple of thousand entries show Growl attempting to do things
unsuccessfully over the last few days.   Notwithstanding glowing references,
a Google search for Growl information doesn't inspire me it is a must-have
tool.

 

Regards, Alan

 

Alan Smith

  iMac 21.5 Nov 2009

  Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06 GHz / 4 MB

  OSX 10.6.2 Snow Leopard

  Maxtor Basic 500GB USB HDD partitioned for Time Machine and Music

 



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Re: Growl App - Console Log warning

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Alan,

To manually remove Growl:
1) Go into the Growl preferences in system preferences
2) Uncheck Display Growl Status in the menu bar
3) Uncheck Start at Login
4) Stop Growl
5) Click on Show All at the top of system preferences
6) Control+click the Growl preferences, then click to remove Growl

Cheers,
Ronni

On 11/12/2009, at 7:17 AM, Alan Smith wrote:

 What should I do with Console now it is on the Dock and logging new data  
 frequently?This morning the Console log popped onto desktop at the same 
 time as the requested DiskUtility.log.(Coincidence?)   Console shows a 
 steady count of 4000 messages so I assume the oldest entries are being 
 removed.   Recent messages mainly relate to the Growl application.
  
 I never requested Growl but it recently self installed.   It appeared about 
 the time I installed DropBox.   Is the Growl app necessary or even useful?
 The last couple of thousand entries show Growl attempting to do things 
 unsuccessfully over the last few days.   Notwithstanding glowing references, 
 a Google search for Growl information doesn’t inspire me it is a must-have 
 tool.
  
 Regards, Alan
  
 Alan Smith
   iMac 21.5 Nov 2009
   Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06 GHz / 4 MB
   OSX 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
   Maxtor Basic 500GB USB HDD partitioned for Time Machine and Music
  
 
 
 
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Re: Growl App - Console Log warning

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Alan,

I was rushing to finish another support job I'm on, and didn't have time to 
explain why you are seeing Console.
When you requested the DiskUtility.log it opened Console, so you could view the 
log.
While your computer performs tasks, it sends messages between applications, 
processes, and the operating system. 
Some of these messages are displayed, but most are not displayed because they 
can be too detailed and technical for most users. 
If you are a programmer debugging software, or are troubleshooting a problem 
with a service technician, information related to the problem may be found in 
these messages, which are stored in system logs. 
To view these messages, you can use the Console application, located in the 
Utilities folder in the Applications folder.

You can quit Console from the dock or from the Menu Bar - Console  Quit 
Console.
For more information, open Console and choose Help  Console Help.

Cheers,
Ronni
On 11/12/2009, at 7:31 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Alan,
 
 To manually remove Growl:
 1) Go into the Growl preferences in system preferences
 2) Uncheck Display Growl Status in the menu bar
 3) Uncheck Start at Login
 4) Stop Growl
 5) Click on Show All at the top of system preferences
 6) Control+click the Growl preferences, then click to remove Growl
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 11/12/2009, at 7:17 AM, Alan Smith wrote:
 
 What should I do with Console now it is on the Dock and logging new data  
 frequently?This morning the Console log popped onto desktop at the same 
 time as the requested DiskUtility.log.(Coincidence?)   Console shows a 
 steady count of 4000 messages so I assume the oldest entries are being 
 removed.   Recent messages mainly relate to the Growl application.
  
 I never requested Growl but it recently self installed.   It appeared about 
 the time I installed DropBox.   Is the Growl app necessary or even useful?   
  The last couple of thousand entries show Growl attempting to do things 
 unsuccessfully over the last few days.   Notwithstanding glowing references, 
 a Google search for Growl information doesn’t inspire me it is a must-have 
 tool.
  
 Regards, Alan
  
 Alan Smith
   iMac 21.5 Nov 2009
   Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06 GHz / 4 MB
   OSX 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
   Maxtor Basic 500GB USB HDD partitioned for Time Machine and Music
  






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RE: Growl App - Console Log warning

[Alan Smith]

Hi  Ronni

 

(1) I am relieved that Console is just doing its job and that I can stop
worrying and just quit it.

 

(2) Thanks for the Growl uninstall instructions.   I will probably do so,
but I will do a little research to see what it really does, if I can benefit
from it, and how it arrived on my iMac uninvited.  First stop Wikipedia!

 

(3)  (OFF TOPIC).  You previously asked me to send the DiskUtility.log.  Do
you want the complete file or just the bit about Repair Permissions before
and after running 10.6.2 Combo Update?  The bulk of the earlier log entries
refer to formatting the external HDD.

 

Regards, Alan

 

From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf
Of Ronda Brown
Sent: Friday, 11 December 2009 7:52 AM
To: WAMUG Mailing List
Subject: Re: Growl App - Console Log warning

 

Hi Alan,

 

I was rushing to finish another support job I'm on, and didn't have time to
explain why you are seeing Console.

When you requested the DiskUtility.log it opened Console, so you could view
the log.

While your computer performs tasks, it sends messages between applications,
processes, and the operating system. 

Some of these messages are displayed, but most are not displayed because
they can be too detailed and technical for most users. 

If you are a programmer debugging software, or are troubleshooting a problem
with a service technician, information related to the problem may be found
in these messages, which are stored in system logs. 

To view these messages, you can use the Console application, located in the
Utilities folder in the Applications folder.

 

You can quit Console from the dock or from the Menu Bar - Console  Quit
Console.

For more information, open Console and choose Help  Console Help.

 

Cheers,

Ronni

On 11/12/2009, at 7:31 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:





Hi Alan,

 

To manually remove Growl:
1) Go into the Growl preferences in system preferences
2) Uncheck Display Growl Status in the menu bar
3) Uncheck Start at Login
4) Stop Growl
5) Click on Show All at the top of system preferences
6) Control+click the Growl preferences, then click to remove Growl

 

Cheers,

Ronni

 

On 11/12/2009, at 7:17 AM, Alan Smith wrote:





What should I do with Console now it is on the Dock and logging new data
frequently?This morning the Console log popped onto desktop at the same
time as the requested DiskUtility.log.(Coincidence?)   Console shows a
steady count of 4000 messages so I assume the oldest entries are being
removed.   Recent messages mainly relate to the Growl application.

 

I never requested Growl but it recently self installed.   It appeared about
the time I installed DropBox.   Is the Growl app necessary or even useful?
The last couple of thousand entries show Growl attempting to do things
unsuccessfully over the last few days.   Notwithstanding glowing references,
a Google search for Growl information doesn't inspire me it is a must-have
tool.

 

Regards, Alan

 

Alan Smith

  iMac 21.5 Nov 2009

  Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06 GHz / 4 MB

  OSX 10.6.2 Snow Leopard

  Maxtor Basic 500GB USB HDD partitioned for Time Machine and Music

 

 







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Re: Growl App - Console Log warning

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Alan,

I just require the Disk Utility log Repair Permissions part thanks.

Did you install any software that came with the Maxtor HDD?
I noticed you mentioned File Manager in last reply RE: Is Help topic on 
restoring system via Time Machine correct?

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)


On 11/12/2009, at 8:52 AM, Alan Smith wrote:

 Hi  Ronni
  
 (1) I am relieved that Console is just doing its job and that I can stop 
 worrying and just quit it.
  
 (2) Thanks for the Growl uninstall instructions.   I will probably do so, but 
 I will do a little research to see what it really does, if I can benefit from 
 it, and how it arrived on my iMac uninvited.  First stop Wikipedia!
  
 (3)  (OFF TOPIC).  You previously asked me to send the DiskUtility.log.  Do 
 you want the complete file or just the bit about Repair Permissions before 
 and after running 10.6.2 Combo Update?  The bulk of the earlier log entries 
 refer to formatting the external HDD.
  
 Regards, Alan
  
 From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of 
 Ronda Brown
 Sent: Friday, 11 December 2009 7:52 AM
 To: WAMUG Mailing List
 Subject: Re: Growl App - Console Log warning
 
  
 Hi Alan,
  
 I was rushing to finish another support job I'm on, and didn't have time to 
 explain why you are seeing Console.
 When you requested the DiskUtility.log it opened Console, so you could view 
 the log.
 While your computer performs tasks, it sends messages between applications, 
 processes, and the operating system. 
 Some of these messages are displayed, but most are not displayed because they 
 can be too detailed and technical for most users. 
 If you are a programmer debugging software, or are troubleshooting a problem 
 with a service technician, information related to the problem may be found in 
 these messages, which are stored in system logs. 
 To view these messages, you can use the Console application, located in the 
 Utilities folder in the Applications folder.
  
 You can quit Console from the dock or from the Menu Bar - Console  Quit 
 Console.
 For more information, open Console and choose Help  Console Help.
  
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 On 11/12/2009, at 7:31 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 
 Hi Alan,
  
 To manually remove Growl:
 1) Go into the Growl preferences in system preferences
 2) Uncheck Display Growl Status in the menu bar
 3) Uncheck Start at Login
 4) Stop Growl
 5) Click on Show All at the top of system preferences
 6) Control+click the Growl preferences, then click to remove Growl
  
 Cheers,
 Ronni
  
 On 11/12/2009, at 7:17 AM, Alan Smith wrote:
 
 
 What should I do with Console now it is on the Dock and logging new data  
 frequently?This morning the Console log popped onto desktop at the same 
 time as the requested DiskUtility.log.(Coincidence?)   Console shows a 
 steady count of 4000 messages so I assume the oldest entries are being 
 removed.   Recent messages mainly relate to the Growl application.
  
 I never requested Growl but it recently self installed.   It appeared about 
 the time I installed DropBox.   Is the Growl app necessary or even useful?
 The last couple of thousand entries show Growl attempting to do things 
 unsuccessfully over the last few days.   Notwithstanding glowing references, 
 a Google search for Growl information doesn’t inspire me it is a must-have 
 tool.
  
 Regards, Alan
  
 Alan Smith
   iMac 21.5 Nov 2009
   Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06 GHz / 4 MB
   OSX 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
   Maxtor Basic 500GB USB HDD partitioned for Time Machine and Music
  
  




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Re: Growl App - Console Log warning

[Ronda Brown]

Hi again Alan,

I would get rid of Growl ... You don't need it, and It doesn't play well with 
Snow Leopard.
Growl preference pane: It sort of works, but you need to restart System 
Preferences into 32-bit mode.
The whole app is only 32-bit. 

If you don't believe me ... 
http://growl.info/documentation/faq.php#snow-leopard

Cheers,
Ronni

On 11/12/2009, at 9:07 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Alan,
 
 I just require the Disk Utility log Repair Permissions part thanks.
 
 Did you install any software that came with the Maxtor HDD?
 I noticed you mentioned File Manager in last reply RE: Is Help topic on 
 restoring system via Time Machine correct?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
 OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 On 11/12/2009, at 8:52 AM, Alan Smith wrote:
 
 Hi  Ronni
  
 (1) I am relieved that Console is just doing its job and that I can stop 
 worrying and just quit it.
  
 (2) Thanks for the Growl uninstall instructions.   I will probably do so, 
 but I will do a little research to see what it really does, if I can benefit 
 from it, and how it arrived on my iMac uninvited.  First stop Wikipedia!
  
 (3)  (OFF TOPIC).  You previously asked me to send the DiskUtility.log.  Do 
 you want the complete file or just the bit about Repair Permissions before 
 and after running 10.6.2 Combo Update?  The bulk of the earlier log entries 
 refer to formatting the external HDD.
  
 Regards, Alan
  
 From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf 
 Of Ronda Brown
 Sent: Friday, 11 December 2009 7:52 AM
 To: WAMUG Mailing List
 Subject: Re: Growl App - Console Log warning
 
  
 Hi Alan,
  
 I was rushing to finish another support job I'm on, and didn't have time to 
 explain why you are seeing Console.
 When you requested the DiskUtility.log it opened Console, so you could view 
 the log.
 While your computer performs tasks, it sends messages between applications, 
 processes, and the operating system. 
 Some of these messages are displayed, but most are not displayed because 
 they can be too detailed and technical for most users. 
 If you are a programmer debugging software, or are troubleshooting a problem 
 with a service technician, information related to the problem may be found 
 in these messages, which are stored in system logs. 
 To view these messages, you can use the Console application, located in the 
 Utilities folder in the Applications folder.
  
 You can quit Console from the dock or from the Menu Bar - Console  Quit 
 Console.
 For more information, open Console and choose Help  Console Help.
  
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 On 11/12/2009, at 7:31 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 
 Hi Alan,
  
 To manually remove Growl:
 1) Go into the Growl preferences in system preferences
 2) Uncheck Display Growl Status in the menu bar
 3) Uncheck Start at Login
 4) Stop Growl
 5) Click on Show All at the top of system preferences
 6) Control+click the Growl preferences, then click to remove Growl
  
 Cheers,
 Ronni
  
 On 11/12/2009, at 7:17 AM, Alan Smith wrote:
 
 
 What should I do with Console now it is on the Dock and logging new data  
 frequently?This morning the Console log popped onto desktop at the same 
 time as the requested DiskUtility.log.(Coincidence?)   Console shows a 
 steady count of 4000 messages so I assume the oldest entries are being 
 removed.   Recent messages mainly relate to the Growl application.
  
 I never requested Growl but it recently self installed.   It appeared about 
 the time I installed DropBox.   Is the Growl app necessary or even useful?   
  The last couple of thousand entries show Growl attempting to do things 
 unsuccessfully over the last few days.   Notwithstanding glowing references, 
 a Google search for Growl information doesn’t inspire me it is a must-have 
 tool.
  
 Regards, Alan
  
 Alan Smith
   iMac 21.5 Nov 2009
   Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06 GHz / 4 MB
   OSX 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
   Maxtor Basic 500GB USB HDD partitioned for Time Machine and Music
  
  



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RE: Growl App - Console Log warning

[Alan Smith]

Thanks Ronni

 

1.  I will uninstall Growl as next job.

2. Reference to File Manager was a faux pas - it has revealed my very long
MS Windows experience!  

3. Maxtor HDD software: not installed - the only files on the HDD were to do
with displaying the Maxtor icon.  These were deleted before I formatted the
disk.

 

Cheers, Alan

 

From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf
Of Ronda Brown
Sent: Friday, 11 December 2009 9:20 AM
To: WAMUG Mailing List
Subject: Re: Growl App - Console Log warning

 

Hi again Alan,

 

I would get rid of Growl ... You don't need it, and It doesn't play well
with Snow Leopard.

Growl preference pane: It sort of works, but you need to restart System
Preferences into 32-bit mode.

The whole app is only 32-bit. 

 

If you don't believe me ...
http://growl.info/documentation/faq.php#snow-leopard

 

Cheers,

Ronni

 

On 11/12/2009, at 9:07 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:





Hi Alan,

 

I just require the Disk Utility log Repair Permissions part thanks.

 

Did you install any software that came with the Maxtor HDD?

I noticed you mentioned File Manager in last reply RE: Is Help topic on
restoring system via Time Machine correct?

 

Cheers,

Ronni

 

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo

2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB

OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard

Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)

 

 

On 11/12/2009, at 8:52 AM, Alan Smith wrote:





Hi  Ronni

 

(1) I am relieved that Console is just doing its job and that I can stop
worrying and just quit it.

 

(2) Thanks for the Growl uninstall instructions.   I will probably do so,
but I will do a little research to see what it really does, if I can benefit
from it, and how it arrived on my iMac uninvited.  First stop Wikipedia!

 

(3)  (OFF TOPIC).  You previously asked me to send the DiskUtility.log.  Do
you want the complete file or just the bit about Repair Permissions before
and after running 10.6.2 Combo Update?  The bulk of the earlier log entries
refer to formatting the external HDD.

 

Regards, Alan

 

From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf
Of Ronda Brown
Sent: Friday, 11 December 2009 7:52 AM
To: WAMUG Mailing List
Subject: Re: Growl App - Console Log warning

 

Hi Alan,

 

I was rushing to finish another support job I'm on, and didn't have time to
explain why you are seeing Console.

When you requested the DiskUtility.log it opened Console, so you could view
the log.

While your computer performs tasks, it sends messages between applications,
processes, and the operating system. 

Some of these messages are displayed, but most are not displayed because
they can be too detailed and technical for most users. 

If you are a programmer debugging software, or are troubleshooting a problem
with a service technician, information related to the problem may be found
in these messages, which are stored in system logs. 

To view these messages, you can use the Console application, located in the
Utilities folder in the Applications folder.

 

You can quit Console from the dock or from the Menu Bar - Console  Quit
Console.

For more information, open Console and choose Help  Console Help.

 

Cheers,

Ronni

On 11/12/2009, at 7:31 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:






Hi Alan,

 

To manually remove Growl:
1) Go into the Growl preferences in system preferences
2) Uncheck Display Growl Status in the menu bar
3) Uncheck Start at Login
4) Stop Growl
5) Click on Show All at the top of system preferences
6) Control+click the Growl preferences, then click to remove Growl

 

Cheers,

Ronni

 

On 11/12/2009, at 7:17 AM, Alan Smith wrote:






What should I do with Console now it is on the Dock and logging new data
frequently?This morning the Console log popped onto desktop at the same
time as the requested DiskUtility.log.(Coincidence?)   Console shows a
steady count of 4000 messages so I assume the oldest entries are being
removed.   Recent messages mainly relate to the Growl application.

 

I never requested Growl but it recently self installed.   It appeared about
the time I installed DropBox.   Is the Growl app necessary or even useful?
The last couple of thousand entries show Growl attempting to do things
unsuccessfully over the last few days.   Notwithstanding glowing references,
a Google search for Growl information doesn't inspire me it is a must-have
tool.

 

Regards, Alan

 

Alan Smith

  iMac 21.5 Nov 2009

  Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06 GHz / 4 MB

  OSX 10.6.2 Snow Leopard

  Maxtor Basic 500GB USB HDD partitioned for Time Machine and Music

 

 





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Re: Growl App - Console Log warning

[Ronda Brown]

Ok thanks Alan.

Your query as to how Growl was installed, Drop Box does install growl but it 
warns you about it. There is a checkbox during the install asking if you want 
Growl. you must have just clicked through it ;-)
Some other add-on utility type apps. also install Growl (or ask if  you want it 
installed).

Cheers,
Ronni

On 11/12/2009, at 9:34 AM, Alan Smith wrote:

 Thanks Ronni
  
 1.  I will uninstall Growl as next job.
 2. Reference to File Manager was a faux pas – it has revealed my very long MS 
 Windows experience! 
 3. Maxtor HDD software: not installed – the only files on the HDD were to do 
 with displaying the Maxtor icon.  These were deleted before I formatted the 
 disk.
  
 Cheers, Alan
  
 From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of 
 Ronda Brown
 Sent: Friday, 11 December 2009 9:20 AM
 To: WAMUG Mailing List
 Subject: Re: Growl App - Console Log warning
  
 Hi again Alan,
  
 I would get rid of Growl ... You don't need it, and It doesn't play well with 
 Snow Leopard.
 Growl preference pane: It sort of works, but you need to restart System 
 Preferences into 32-bit mode.
 The whole app is only 32-bit. 
  
 If you don't believe me ... 
 http://growl.info/documentation/faq.php#snow-leopard
  
 Cheers,
 Ronni
  
 On 11/12/2009, at 9:07 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 
 Hi Alan,
  
 I just require the Disk Utility log Repair Permissions part thanks.
  
 Did you install any software that came with the Maxtor HDD?
 I noticed you mentioned File Manager in last reply RE: Is Help topic on 
 restoring system via Time Machine correct?
  
 Cheers,
 Ronni
  
 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
 OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
  
  
 On 11/12/2009, at 8:52 AM, Alan Smith wrote:
 
 
 Hi  Ronni
  
 (1) I am relieved that Console is just doing its job and that I can stop 
 worrying and just quit it.
  
 (2) Thanks for the Growl uninstall instructions.   I will probably do so, but 
 I will do a little research to see what it really does, if I can benefit from 
 it, and how it arrived on my iMac uninvited.  First stop Wikipedia!
  
 (3)  (OFF TOPIC).  You previously asked me to send the DiskUtility.log.  Do 
 you want the complete file or just the bit about Repair Permissions before 
 and after running 10.6.2 Combo Update?  The bulk of the earlier log entries 
 refer to formatting the external HDD.
  
 Regards, Alan
  
 From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of 
 Ronda Brown
 Sent: Friday, 11 December 2009 7:52 AM
 To: WAMUG Mailing List
 Subject: Re: Growl App - Console Log warning
  
 Hi Alan,
  
 I was rushing to finish another support job I'm on, and didn't have time to 
 explain why you are seeing Console.
 When you requested the DiskUtility.log it opened Console, so you could view 
 the log.
 While your computer performs tasks, it sends messages between applications, 
 processes, and the operating system. 
 Some of these messages are displayed, but most are not displayed because they 
 can be too detailed and technical for most users. 
 If you are a programmer debugging software, or are troubleshooting a problem 
 with a service technician, information related to the problem may be found in 
 these messages, which are stored in system logs. 
 To view these messages, you can use the Console application, located in the 
 Utilities folder in the Applications folder.
  
 You can quit Console from the dock or from the Menu Bar - Console  Quit 
 Console.
 For more information, open Console and choose Help  Console Help.
  
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 On 11/12/2009, at 7:31 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Alan,
  
 To manually remove Growl:
 1) Go into the Growl preferences in system preferences
 2) Uncheck Display Growl Status in the menu bar
 3) Uncheck Start at Login
 4) Stop Growl
 5) Click on Show All at the top of system preferences
 6) Control+click the Growl preferences, then click to remove Growl
  
 Cheers,
 Ronni
  
 On 11/12/2009, at 7:17 AM, Alan Smith wrote:
 
 
 
 What should I do with Console now it is on the Dock and logging new data  
 frequently?This morning the Console log popped onto desktop at the same 
 time as the requested DiskUtility.log.(Coincidence?)   Console shows a 
 steady count of 4000 messages so I assume the oldest entries are being 
 removed.   Recent messages mainly relate to the Growl application.
  
 I never requested Growl but it recently self installed.   It appeared about 
 the time I installed DropBox.   Is the Growl app necessary or even useful?
 The last couple of thousand entries show Growl attempting to do things 
 unsuccessfully over the last few days.   Notwithstanding glowing references, 
 a Google search for Growl information doesn’t inspire me it is a must-have 
 tool.
  
 Regards, Alan
  
 Alan Smith
   iMac 21.5 Nov 2009
   Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06 GHz / 4 MB
   OSX 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
   Maxtor Basic 500GB USB HDD

Re: Growl App - Console Log warning

[peta belczowski]

Ronni

Thank you for your instructions on removing Growl.  

Like Alan, I also was puzzled as to where this had come from, and why it kept 
appearing on my desktop A newer version of Growl is Available.  Click to 
Install.  I could not establish what it was for.

You would not believe it - I thought - okay, Leopard, Growl, must be 
connected

So I had clicked yes to download.

Following your instructions I have now manually removed this.

Peta


On 11/12/2009, at 7:31 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Alan,
 
 To manually remove Growl:
 1) Go into the Growl preferences in system preferences
 2) Uncheck Display Growl Status in the menu bar
 3) Uncheck Start at Login
 4) Stop Growl
 5) Click on Show All at the top of system preferences
 6) Control+click the Growl preferences, then click to remove Growl
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 11/12/2009, at 7:17 AM, Alan Smith wrote:
 
 What should I do with Console now it is on the Dock and logging new data  
 frequently?This morning the Console log popped onto desktop at the same 
 time as the requested DiskUtility.log.(Coincidence?)   Console shows a 
 steady count of 4000 messages so I assume the oldest entries are being 
 removed.   Recent messages mainly relate to the Growl application.
  
 I never requested Growl but it recently self installed.   It appeared about 
 the time I installed DropBox.   Is the Growl app necessary or even useful?   
  The last couple of thousand entries show Growl attempting to do things 
 unsuccessfully over the last few days.   Notwithstanding glowing references, 
 a Google search for Growl information doesn’t inspire me it is a must-have 
 tool.
  
 Regards, Alan
  
 Alan Smith
   iMac 21.5 Nov 2009
   Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06 GHz / 4 MB
   OSX 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
   Maxtor Basic 500GB USB HDD partitioned for Time Machine and Music
  
 
 
 
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Permissions warning

[Adrian Skehan]

G'day to all,

MacBook Pro  OSX Snow Leopard--Permissions Repair warnings as follows:

Repairing permissions for “Macintosh HD”
Warning: SUID file System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ 
ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent has been modified and will not  
be repaired.
Warning: SUID file System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/ 
DesktopServicesPriv.framework/Versions/A/Resources/Locum has been  
modified and will not be repaired.


Permissions repair complete

I seem to recall some discussions on this subject some time ago in the  
pre Leopard OS, but I cant find the reference to check what it meant.


Should one be concerned and or do anything about these warnings?




Regards,

Adrian
adrianske...@me.com



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Re: Permissions warning

[Ronda Brown]

On 26/09/2009, at 11:55 AM, Adrian Skehan wrote:



G'day to all,

MacBook Pro  OSX Snow Leopard--Permissions Repair warnings as  
follows:


Repairing permissions for “Macintosh HD”
Warning: SUID file System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ 
ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent has been modified and will not  
be repaired.
Warning: SUID file System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/ 
DesktopServicesPriv.framework/Versions/A/Resources/Locum has been  
modified and will not be repaired.


Permissions repair complete

I seem to recall some discussions on this subject some time ago in  
the pre Leopard OS, but I cant find the reference to check what it  
meant.


Should one be concerned and or do anything about these warnings?


Hi Adrian,

No, you don't need to be concerned, you can safely ignore these SUID  
warnings.
Disk Utility's Repair Disk Permissions messages that you can safely  
ignore:


http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1448?viewlocale=en_US

Cheers,
Ronni

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2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
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Re: Permissions warning

[Adrian Skehan]

Thanks for that.


Regards,

Adrian
adrianske...@me.com

On 26/09/2009, at 12:22 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:




On 26/09/2009, at 11:55 AM, Adrian Skehan wrote:



G'day to all,

MacBook Pro  OSX Snow Leopard--Permissions Repair warnings as  
follows:


Repairing permissions for “Macintosh HD”
Warning: SUID file System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ 
ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent has been modified and will  
not be repaired.
Warning: SUID file System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/ 
DesktopServicesPriv.framework/Versions/A/Resources/Locum has been  
modified and will not be repaired.


Permissions repair complete

I seem to recall some discussions on this subject some time ago in  
the pre Leopard OS, but I cant find the reference to check what it  
meant.


Should one be concerned and or do anything about these warnings?


Hi Adrian,

No, you don't need to be concerned, you can safely ignore these SUID  
warnings.
Disk Utility's Repair Disk Permissions messages that you can safely  
ignore:


http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1448?viewlocale=en_US

Cheers,
Ronni

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2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
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WARNING .. Paypal phishing email

[Robert Howells]

HI Everyone ,

I received an almost believable email
posing as Paypal to advise of a change of paypal's email address .

It took a bit of direct searching on a real Paypal site to confirm
it was a likely scam.

Redirected email to sp...@paypal.comand Paypal replied that it is  
indeed a phishing attempt .


Be careful out there  !

Bob


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Re: WARNING .. Paypal phishing email

[lynnkoh]

thanks robert.

i also have received this email.


- Original Message -
From: Robert Howells rhowe...@arach.net.au
To: wamug wamug@wamug.org.au
Sent: Saturday, 18 July, 2009 5:37:09 PM GMT +08:00 Perth
Subject: WARNING .. Paypal phishing email


HI Everyone ,

I received an almost believable email
posing as Paypal to advise of a change of paypal's email address .

It took a bit of direct searching on a real Paypal site to confirm
it was a likely scam.

Redirected email to sp...@paypal.comand Paypal replied that it is  
indeed a phishing attempt .

Be careful out there  !

Bob


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Re: WARNING .. Paypal phishing email

[Bill Parker]

Folks,

I am a long long time Westnet customer and for the first time ever I  
am experiencing problems with SPAM.


 Since WN swapped from Sophos to Ironport I am getting up to 5 or  
more SPAMs daily and ALL of them are obvious SPAM (Nigerian pleas, the  
Paypal one, bank ones and Viagra etc).


I complained to WN and was told that the system did not recognize  
them as spam, something I find a bit hard to accept.   I find Ironport  
hard to use, there is no list that I can find to check what is being  
blocked and I have no started to miss real emails - without knowing  
it.I am getting stonewall un-informative responses from WN.  
Anyone else experiencing this?



Bill


On 18/07/2009, at 5:47 PM, lynn...@westnet.com.au wrote:



thanks robert.

i also have received this email.


- Original Message -
From: Robert Howells rhowe...@arach.net.au
To: wamug wamug@wamug.org.au
Sent: Saturday, 18 July, 2009 5:37:09 PM GMT +08:00 Perth
Subject: WARNING .. Paypal phishing email


HI Everyone ,

I received an almost believable email
posing as Paypal to advise of a change of paypal's email address .

It took a bit of direct searching on a real Paypal site to confirm
it was a likely scam.

Redirected email to sp...@paypal.comand Paypal replied that it is
indeed a phishing attempt .

Be careful out there  !

Bob


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Re: Device removal warning

[James Devenish]

Hi Barry,

2009/6/16 Barry Sexstone bjsexst...@netspace.net.au:
 In the last few days, on waking from sleep in the morning, the computer
 shows the standard device removal warning The device you removed was not
 properly put away etc. and the icons for the external disk are not on the

I assume you are referring to a desktop computer, but if you have a
laptop with a bus-powered external drive (i.e., one that doesn't
plug into the wall), it is easily explained. If either the laptop or
hard drive, or both, are plugged into wall power for the entire time,
everything will be fine. But if the laptop is asleep and both the
laptop AND the hard drive are UNplugged from the wall at the same time
(or if your house lost mains power at any time during the night), you
would get the device removal message when the computer wakes up.

I'm not sure why you would have the problem with a desktop. If you
house experienced power interruptions during the night, I'd expect
your desktop to lose power too. I don't know what kind of WD drive you
have, but make sure it's plugged into the wall if it needs to be. I
can only image that if it came unplugged, it might draw its power
through FireWire when the computer is awake, but not when the computer
is asleep. If the drive has a light, does the light normally stay on
when the computer is asleep, or does it go off?

James

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Re: Device removal warning

[James Devenish]

Hi Barry,

In that case, can I suggest Shutting Down your computer tonight and
turning the Firewire drive off, leaving the computer powered off for
at least 8 hours, then starting back up again and resuming normal
procedures. Has the problem gone away? Some people might suggest
resetting (zapping) your PRAM (find instructions on the web) but
simply leaving your computer turned off may be enough to resettle the
FireWire controller without the side-effects of a PRAM reset.

James.

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Re: Device removal warning

[Barry Sexstone]

James

As no-one seems to have any definitive answers I have a number of  
thing I will try and yours will be one of them if I do not have  
success before then.  It will be a slow process as I will have to wait  
24 hrs for each trial. However, it is not a problem per se but more an  
intriguing  behaviour.


Barry


On 16/06/2009, at 4:17 PM, James Devenish wrote:


Hi Barry,

In that case, can I suggest Shutting Down your computer tonight and
turning the Firewire drive off, leaving the computer powered off for
at least 8 hours, then starting back up again and resuming normal
procedures. Has the problem gone away? Some people might suggest
resetting (zapping) your PRAM (find instructions on the web) but
simply leaving your computer turned off may be enough to resettle the
FireWire controller without the side-effects of a PRAM reset.

James.

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Re: Device removal warning

[Robert Howells]

Hi Barry,

I wonder if your Hard Drive is slow to start because the Power Supply  
is now not

producing the same current as it used to for Start Spin Up ?

What current rating does it have ?

What make Hard drive is in the enclosure ?  Seagate requires more  
current than eg Western Digital ! ?


Can you substitute a different enclosure to try out , or replace the  
Power Plug with another ?


Bob



On 16/06/2009, at 5:43 PM, Barry Sexstone wrote:


James

As no-one seems to have any definitive answers I have a number of  
thing I will try and yours will be one of them if I do not have  
success before then.  It will be a slow process as I will have to  
wait 24 hrs for each trial. However, it is not a problem per se but  
more an intriguing  behaviour.


Barry


On 16/06/2009, at 4:17 PM, James Devenish wrote:


Hi Barry,

In that case, can I suggest Shutting Down your computer tonight and
turning the Firewire drive off, leaving the computer powered off for
at least 8 hours, then starting back up again and resuming normal
procedures. Has the problem gone away? Some people might suggest
resetting (zapping) your PRAM (find instructions on the web) but
simply leaving your computer turned off may be enough to resettle the
FireWire controller without the side-effects of a PRAM reset.

James.

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Re: Device removal warning

[Barry Sexstone]

I continue to be astounded by the power of the group.

After about ten days of the problem the external drive woke as it  
should do this morning.  The only corrective action I have taken so  
far is to request assistance, I have done nothing else.


All I can conclude is the power of the group has prevented my local  
poltergeist from playing with the computer overnight.


Thank you Ronni, James and Bob for your input.

Barry


On 16/06/2009, at 2:56 PM, James Devenish wrote:


Hi Barry,

2009/6/16 Barry Sexstone bjsexst...@netspace.net.au:
In the last few days, on waking from sleep in the morning, the  
computer
shows the standard device removal warning The device you removed  
was not
properly put away etc. and the icons for the external disk are not  
on the


I assume you are referring to a desktop computer, but if you have a
laptop with a bus-powered external drive (i.e., one that doesn't
plug into the wall), it is easily explained. If either the laptop or
hard drive, or both, are plugged into wall power for the entire time,
everything will be fine. But if the laptop is asleep and both the
laptop AND the hard drive are UNplugged from the wall at the same time
(or if your house lost mains power at any time during the night), you
would get the device removal message when the computer wakes up.

I'm not sure why you would have the problem with a desktop. If you
house experienced power interruptions during the night, I'd expect
your desktop to lose power too. I don't know what kind of WD drive you
have, but make sure it's plugged into the wall if it needs to be. I
can only image that if it came unplugged, it might draw its power
through FireWire when the computer is awake, but not when the computer
is asleep. If the drive has a light, does the light normally stay on
when the computer is asleep, or does it go off?

James

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Device removal warning

[Barry Sexstone]

I have a WD external hard drive connected to firewire 400 port on my  
Intel Mac running 10.5.7
The external drive has two partitions - on running time machine and  
the other is a backup clone.


In the last few days, on waking from sleep in the morning, the  
computer shows the standard device removal warning The device you  
removed was not properly put away etc. and the icons for the external  
disk are not on the desktop.  This is a recent phenomenon and does not  
seem to happen when the computer sleeps during the day.


Any clues/advice.

Regards

Barry

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Re: Device removal warning

[Ronda Brown]

On 16/06/2009, at 9:15 AM, Barry Sexstone wrote:

I have a WD external hard drive connected to firewire 400 port on my  
Intel Mac running 10.5.7
The external drive has two partitions - on running time machine and  
the other is a backup clone.


In the last few days, on waking from sleep in the morning, the  
computer shows the standard device removal warning The device you  
removed was not properly put away etc. and the icons for the  
external disk are not on the desktop.  This is a recent phenomenon  
and does not seem to happen when the computer sleeps during the day.


Any clues/advice.

Regards

Barry


Hello Barry,

When this happens, with the drive connected and powered open Disk  
Utility, does the drive show there?
If the drive is listed in the left side list then select the volume  
even if it's greyed out, then click on the Mount icon in the DU toolbar.


Cheers,
Ronni

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2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
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Re: Device removal warning

[Barry Sexstone]

Thank-you Ronni, I will try this next time this happens.  It may solve  
the problem but why has it suddenly arisen?


Barry

On 16/06/2009, at 9:23 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:



On 16/06/2009, at 9:15 AM, Barry Sexstone wrote:

I have a WD external hard drive connected to firewire 400 port on  
my Intel Mac running 10.5.7
The external drive has two partitions - on running time machine and  
the other is a backup clone.


In the last few days, on waking from sleep in the morning, the  
computer shows the standard device removal warning The device you  
removed was not properly put away etc. and the icons for the  
external disk are not on the desktop.  This is a recent phenomenon  
and does not seem to happen when the computer sleeps during the day.


Any clues/advice.

Regards

Barry


Hello Barry,

When this happens, with the drive connected and powered open Disk  
Utility, does the drive show there?
If the drive is listed in the left side list then select the volume  
even if it's greyed out, then click on the Mount icon in the DU  
toolbar.


Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
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Re: Device removal warning

[Ronda Brown]

Why it has suddenly arisen, I have no idea.
Did it arise after doing an update?
A security update, or OS, or application update?

There has to be a reason why it has just started to have this problem.
Does the Firewire Drive go to sleep and perhaps it is not waking when  
the computer wakes in the morning?


Ronni

On 16/06/2009, at 10:26 AM, Barry Sexstone wrote:

Thank-you Ronni, I will try this next time this happens.  It may  
solve the problem but why has it suddenly arisen?


Barry

On 16/06/2009, at 9:23 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:



On 16/06/2009, at 9:15 AM, Barry Sexstone wrote:

I have a WD external hard drive connected to firewire 400 port on  
my Intel Mac running 10.5.7
The external drive has two partitions - on running time machine  
and the other is a backup clone.


In the last few days, on waking from sleep in the morning, the  
computer shows the standard device removal warning The device you  
removed was not properly put away etc. and the icons for the  
external disk are not on the desktop.  This is a recent phenomenon  
and does not seem to happen when the computer sleeps during the day.


Any clues/advice.

Regards

Barry


Hello Barry,

When this happens, with the drive connected and powered open Disk  
Utility, does the drive show there?
If the drive is listed in the left side list then select the volume  
even if it's greyed out, then click on the Mount icon in the DU  
toolbar.


Cheers,
Ronni

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Re: Device removal warning

[Barry Sexstone]

Ronni

No updates but as you say the symptoms are definitely those of the  
firewire going to sleep  not waking.


Barry

On 16/06/2009, at 10:36 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Why it has suddenly arisen, I have no idea.
Did it arise after doing an update?
A security update, or OS, or application update?

There has to be a reason why it has just started to have this problem.
Does the Firewire Drive go to sleep and perhaps it is not waking  
when the computer wakes in the morning?


Ronni

On 16/06/2009, at 10:26 AM, Barry Sexstone wrote:

Thank-you Ronni, I will try this next time this happens.  It may  
solve the problem but why has it suddenly arisen?


Barry

On 16/06/2009, at 9:23 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:



On 16/06/2009, at 9:15 AM, Barry Sexstone wrote:

I have a WD external hard drive connected to firewire 400 port on  
my Intel Mac running 10.5.7
The external drive has two partitions - on running time machine  
and the other is a backup clone.


In the last few days, on waking from sleep in the morning, the  
computer shows the standard device removal warning The device  
you removed was not properly put away etc. and the icons for the  
external disk are not on the desktop.  This is a recent  
phenomenon and does not seem to happen when the computer sleeps  
during the day.


Any clues/advice.

Regards

Barry


Hello Barry,

When this happens, with the drive connected and powered open Disk  
Utility, does the drive show there?
If the drive is listed in the left side list then select the  
volume even if it's greyed out, then click on the Mount icon in  
the DU toolbar.


Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
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OS X 10.5.7



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Re: Device removal warning

[Robert Howells]

On 16/06/2009, at 10:52 AM, Barry Sexstone wrote:


Ronni

No updates but as you say the symptoms are definitely those of the  
firewire going to sleep  not waking.


Barry


Under System prefernces - energy saver - sleep
do you happen to have  Put the Hard Drives to sleep when possible 
checked ?


Bob





On 16/06/2009, at 10:36 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Why it has suddenly arisen, I have no idea.
Did it arise after doing an update?
A security update, or OS, or application update?

There has to be a reason why it has just started to have this  
problem.
Does the Firewire Drive go to sleep and perhaps it is not waking  
when the computer wakes in the morning?


Ronni

On 16/06/2009, at 10:26 AM, Barry Sexstone wrote:

Thank-you Ronni, I will try this next time this happens.  It may  
solve the problem but why has it suddenly arisen?


Barry

On 16/06/2009, at 9:23 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:



On 16/06/2009, at 9:15 AM, Barry Sexstone wrote:

I have a WD external hard drive connected to firewire 400 port  
on my Intel Mac running 10.5.7
The external drive has two partitions - on running time machine  
and the other is a backup clone.


In the last few days, on waking from sleep in the morning, the  
computer shows the standard device removal warning The device  
you removed was not properly put away etc. and the icons for  
the external disk are not on the desktop.  This is a recent  
phenomenon and does not seem to happen when the computer sleeps  
during the day.


Any clues/advice.

Regards

Barry


Hello Barry,

When this happens, with the drive connected and powered open Disk  
Utility, does the drive show there?
If the drive is listed in the left side list then select the  
volume even if it's greyed out, then click on the Mount icon in  
the DU toolbar.


Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
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OS X 10.5.7



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Re: Device removal warning

[Barry Sexstone]

Yes Bob, and always have.

Barry


On 16/06/2009, at 11:05 AM, Robert Howells wrote:



On 16/06/2009, at 10:52 AM, Barry Sexstone wrote:


Ronni

No updates but as you say the symptoms are definitely those of the  
firewire going to sleep  not waking.


Barry


Under System prefernces - energy saver - sleep
do you happen to have  Put the Hard Drives to sleep when possible  
   checked ?


Bob





On 16/06/2009, at 10:36 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Why it has suddenly arisen, I have no idea.
Did it arise after doing an update?
A security update, or OS, or application update?

There has to be a reason why it has just started to have this  
problem.
Does the Firewire Drive go to sleep and perhaps it is not waking  
when the computer wakes in the morning?


Ronni

On 16/06/2009, at 10:26 AM, Barry Sexstone wrote:

Thank-you Ronni, I will try this next time this happens.  It may  
solve the problem but why has it suddenly arisen?


Barry

On 16/06/2009, at 9:23 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:



On 16/06/2009, at 9:15 AM, Barry Sexstone wrote:

I have a WD external hard drive connected to firewire 400 port  
on my Intel Mac running 10.5.7
The external drive has two partitions - on running time machine  
and the other is a backup clone.


In the last few days, on waking from sleep in the morning, the  
computer shows the standard device removal warning The device  
you removed was not properly put away etc. and the icons for  
the external disk are not on the desktop.  This is a recent  
phenomenon and does not seem to happen when the computer sleeps  
during the day.


Any clues/advice.

Regards

Barry


Hello Barry,

When this happens, with the drive connected and powered open  
Disk Utility, does the drive show there?
If the drive is listed in the left side list then select the  
volume even if it's greyed out, then click on the Mount icon in  
the DU toolbar.


Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.5.7



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Re: WARNING ... Safari beta users

[Greg Manzie]

Hello Everyone

I just successfully installed Safari 4 on a G4 400 running 10.4.11. I  
used software update and had no problems.



Regards

Greg Manzie
Director

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Conservators, Consultants and Picture Framers
for Museums, Art Galleries and Collectors

5 Glyde Street
Mosman Park
Western Australia 6012

ABN 89 154 124 265

Phone   (08) 9383 3929
Mobile  0448 844 381
0438 833 144
Email   gman...@bigpond.net.au


On 09/06/2009, at 1:42 PM, Robert Howells wrote:


Hello list

Just a warning for those on the list who have   NOTupgraded to   
OS  10 .5.7


IF you are usingSafari 4 Beta ( as I am )  on OS 10.5.6 or  
less
theNEWSAFARI 4  installer willNOT   let you instal  
unless you have 10.5.7


SO if you wish to continue to use Safari 4 Beta do NOT delete it in  
anticipation

of   installing  the   New   Safari 4 .


Have fun then

Bob

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Re: WARNING ... Safari beta users

[Matt Huitson]

Hi all,

Also, just a heads up for those of you currently using Safari 3  
plugins like Sogudi and AcidSearch:  If you upgrade to Safari 4 and do  
not first uninstall/remove these plugins you will most likely find  
that Safari 4 refuses to launch.  Depending on where you installed  
(for one user or all), removing the following folders should get  
Safari 4 up and running again:


~/Library/Application Support/SIMBL
~/Library/InputManagers/SIMBL

Sogudi is no longer supported, hence it will not work with Safari 4.  
The best alternative I have found is Keywurl, although at time of  
writing it appears to be awaiting an upgrade to coincide with this  
latest Safari 4 release.



Regards.

-
Matt Huitson
School of Psychology
University of Western Australia
35 Stirling Highway
Crawley, WA 6009
Australia
Work +61 8 6488 3269

On 09/06/2009, at 2:04 PM, Greg Manzie wrote:


Hello Everyone

I just successfully installed Safari 4 on a G4 400 running 10.4.11.  
I used software update and had no problems.



Regards

Greg Manzie
Director

Glyde Gallery Conservation
Conservators, Consultants and Picture Framers
for Museums, Art Galleries and Collectors

5 Glyde Street
Mosman Park
Western Australia 6012

ABN 89 154 124 265

Phone   (08) 9383 3929
Mobile  0448 844 381
0438 833 144
Email   gman...@bigpond.net.au


On 09/06/2009, at 1:42 PM, Robert Howells wrote:


Hello list

Just a warning for those on the list who have   NOTupgraded to   
OS  10 .5.7


IF you are usingSafari 4 Beta ( as I am )  on OS 10.5.6 or  
less
theNEWSAFARI 4  installer willNOT   let you instal  
unless you have 10.5.7


SO if you wish to continue to use Safari 4 Beta do NOT delete it in  
anticipation

of   installing  the   New   Safari 4 .


Have fun then

Bob

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Re: WARNING ... Safari beta users

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Greg  Bob,

There are two versions of the New Safari 4.
One is for Tiger 10.4.11, which you would have downloaded   
installed using Software Update Greg.

The other version Safari for Leopard' requires Leopard 10.5.7.

Macintosh Requirements
	• Any Mac running Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.7 or Mac OS X Tiger 10.4.11  
and Security Update 2009-002
	• Mac with an Intel processor or a Power PC G5, G4, or G3 processor  
and built-in FireWire®

• 256MB of RAM
	• Top Sites and Cover Flow on Mac OS X Tiger require a Quartz-Extreme  
compatible video card


Cheers,
Ronni

On 09/06/2009, at 2:04 PM, Greg Manzie wrote:


Hello Everyone

I just successfully installed Safari 4 on a G4 400 running 10.4.11.  
I used software update and had no problems.



Regards

Greg Manzie
Director

Glyde Gallery Conservation
Conservators, Consultants and Picture Framers
for Museums, Art Galleries and Collectors

5 Glyde Street
Mosman Park
Western Australia 6012

ABN 89 154 124 265

Phone   (08) 9383 3929
Mobile  0448 844 381
0438 833 144
Email   gman...@bigpond.net.au


On 09/06/2009, at 1:42 PM, Robert Howells wrote:


Hello list

Just a warning for those on the list who have   NOTupgraded to   
OS  10 .5.7


IF you are usingSafari 4 Beta ( as I am )  on OS 10.5.6 or  
less
theNEWSAFARI 4  installer willNOT   let you instal  
unless you have 10.5.7


SO if you wish to continue to use Safari 4 Beta do NOT delete it in  
anticipation

of   installing  the   New   Safari 4 .


Have fun then

Bob




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Re: WARNING ... Safari beta users

[Lloyd White]

Thanks Matt,

You are exactly right. Without that information I would not have known where
to look to get Safari 4 to stay open. I have never heard of SIMBL before !

Lloyd 




 Hi all,
 
 Also, just a heads up for those of you currently using Safari 3
 plugins like Sogudi and AcidSearch:  If you upgrade to Safari 4 and do
 not first uninstall/remove these plugins you will most likely find
 that Safari 4 refuses to launch.  Depending on where you installed
 (for one user or all), removing the following folders should get
 Safari 4 up and running again:
 
 ~/Library/Application Support/SIMBL
 ~/Library/InputManagers/SIMBL
 
 Sogudi is no longer supported, hence it will not work with Safari 4.
 The best alternative I have found is Keywurl, although at time of
 writing it appears to be awaiting an upgrade to coincide with this
 latest Safari 4 release.
 

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WARNING ... Safari beta users

[Robert Howells]

Hello list

Just a warning for those on the list who have   NOTupgraded to   
OS  10 .5.7


IF you are usingSafari 4 Beta ( as I am )  on OS 10.5.6 or less
theNEWSAFARI 4  installer willNOT   let you instal  
unless you have 10.5.7


SO if you wish to continue to use Safari 4 Beta do NOT delete it in  
anticipation

of   installing  the   New   Safari 4 .


Have fun then

Bob

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Re: MacBook Pro - turns off without warning when no AC

[Steven Knowles]

In case of interest to anyone, the outcome of this problem of mine is  
that the fourth point on the page which Travis pointed to, ie ...


http://www.apple.com/au/support/macbook_macbookpro/batteryupdate

.. also applied. I didn't look closely enough, but the battery had  
started to expand. What prompted a closer look was the clicking  
section of my track pad suddenly become hard to click, and generally  
hard to use. I hadn't noticed any gradual deterioration because I  
usually have a mouse and external keyboard plugged in. Turns out the  
swelling of the battery pack was interfering with the ability to click  
in the track pad.


So, if the clicker on your laptop's trackpad is giving you grief,  
check the battery.


A new battery's been ordered from Apple at no cost to me, so can't  
complain.


Cheers, Steven

On 07/02/2009, at 1:57 PM, Steven Knowles wrote:


Must be close to exhaustive Travis. Thanks.

A note at this page http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1359?viewlocale=en_US 
 says ...


Note: Updated versions of Mac OS X like 10.4.11 and 10.5 will show  
the batteryupdater.bundle as version 1.3. This is normal and does  
not indicate the wrong update was installed on the computer. When  
running the newer OS version, the battery will be automatically  
updated to the proper update if one has not previously been  
installed.


My batteryupdater.bundle file does show 1.3. But I find this note a  
little ambiguous. Is it saying then that I don't need to do an  
update? I assume so. Anyway, I've emailed an Apple service centre  
and explained the problem, pointing them to that page about  
replacement qualifications. I seem to fall into the third bullet  
point category, with a cycle count of 274.


Thanks Diane for the link to Entourage scripts.

Cheers, Steven


On 06/02/2009, at 5:06 PM, Travis Hansen wrote:


Steve,
This is a very common problem.
There's heaps to try:
Calibrate battery (as James said):
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.4/en/mh2339.html
Battery Firmware update:
http://support.apple.com/downloads/Battery_Update_1_2  (depending on
your model)
See if you qualify for new battery:
http://www.apple.com/au/support/macbook_macbookpro/batteryupdate/
Check battery for bulging - Read this WAMUG thread from 29 Jan 09:
MacBook Pro Battery Warning (finished one)
This list is probably not exhaustive. Good luck.
cheers
Travis



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Re: MacBook Pro - turns off without warning when no AC

[Steven Knowles]

Must be close to exhaustive Travis. Thanks.

A note at this page http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1359? 
viewlocale=en_US says ...


Note: Updated versions of Mac OS X like 10.4.11 and 10.5 will show  
the batteryupdater.bundle as version 1.3. This is normal and does not  
indicate the wrong update was installed on the computer. When running  
the newer OS version, the battery will be automatically updated to the  
proper update if one has not previously been installed.


My batteryupdater.bundle file does show 1.3. But I find this note a  
little ambiguous. Is it saying then that I don't need to do an update?  
I assume so. Anyway, I've emailed an Apple service centre and  
explained the problem, pointing them to that page about replacement  
qualifications. I seem to fall into the third bullet point category,  
with a cycle count of 274.


Thanks Diane for the link to Entourage scripts.

Cheers, Steven



On 06/02/2009, at 5:06 PM, Travis Hansen wrote:


Steve,
This is a very common problem.
There's heaps to try:
Calibrate battery (as James said):
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.4/en/mh2339.html
Battery Firmware update:
http://support.apple.com/downloads/Battery_Update_1_2  (depending on
your model)
See if you qualify for new battery:
http://www.apple.com/au/support/macbook_macbookpro/batteryupdate/
Check battery for bulging - Read this WAMUG thread from 29 Jan 09:
MacBook Pro Battery Warning (finished one)
This list is probably not exhaustive. Good luck.
cheers
Travis


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MacBook Pro - turns off without warning when no AC

[Steven Knowles]

My Intel Core 2 Duo 17 MacBook Pro, when unplugged from an AC power  
supply, will turn off without any warning when the battery runs down  
to what seems to be a point where the laptop should still be running  
on battery power.


It's just happened to me again, and upon connecting the MacBook Pro to  
an AC power supply and restarting, the battery indicator was over 30%.


I've heard of resetting PMUs before, but from what I can gather that  
seems to apply more to PowerBooks (eg. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1431?viewlocale=en_US 
).


This forum http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=509314  
indicates a similar problem to mine, and suggests a dud battery. The  
machine I have is within the extended 3-year warranty period, though  
it seems that the extended warranty doesn't apply to batteries.


Any other suggestions before I resign to what is looking like purchase  
of another battery? In case it makes any difference, my Mac is  
connected to an AC power supply about 95% of the time.


Cheers, Steven

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Re: MacBook Pro - turns off without warning when no AC

[James Devenish]

Hi Steven,

You're right that PMU applies to PowerPC hardware only. For Intels,
it's SMC (System Management Controller), so search for that instead.
Battery Calibration can be a problem -- if the battery cannot guage
its capacity properly then you will have premature cut-outs. You can
re-calibrate the battery by following the instructions in your
hardware User Guide (I think the rule of thumb is once per month to be
on the safe side over the life of the battery).

James.

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Re: MacBook Pro - turns off without warning when no AC

[Travis Hansen]

Steve,
This is a very common problem.
There's heaps to try:
Calibrate battery (as James said):
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.4/en/mh2339.html
Battery Firmware update:
http://support.apple.com/downloads/Battery_Update_1_2  (depending on
your model)
See if you qualify for new battery:
http://www.apple.com/au/support/macbook_macbookpro/batteryupdate/
Check battery for bulging - Read this WAMUG thread from 29 Jan 09:
MacBook Pro Battery Warning (finished one)
This list is probably not exhaustive. Good luck.
cheers
Travis

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Re: MacBook Pro Battery Warning (finished one)

[Travis Hansen]

Glenn this is the battery now.
http://members.westnet.com.au/travis253/battery1.jpg
http://members.westnet.com.au/travis253/battery2.jpg

Obviously it's got a lot worse since I noticed it. I could only just
tell it was bulging when when the battery was in, but it was obvious
when I took it out. I then left it out for a week while on holiday.
After that I couldn't get it back in. It was at that point it was
rejected for replacement.
My original email should have read - Apple said if the battery is
removable  In other words if it is not stuck in. That made me
angry - no logic there!
So you can take the battery out for inspection, it won't matter.

cheers
Travis


2009/1/29 Reg Whitely rwhit...@internode.on.net:
 So if you have a backup battery it voids the warranty. Surely not!

 Reg

 On 29/01/2009, at 1:43 PM, Glenn Cardwell wrote:

 Thanks for scaring the pants off me Travis. Purchased same at same time.

 Can you please describe where you found the bulge? Can't find a problem
 with mine.

 Then I read the rest of your email! I deny taking the battery out for
 inspection. Can they prove I did? Where is the sign that says Warranty void
 if removed? Is the bulge visible when battery installed.

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MacBook Pro Battery Warning

[Travis Hansen]

Thought I would share this as it might help someone else:

I have a MacBook Pro (17) which will turn 2 years old in April. About
a month ago it started to randomly shutdown - and I mean like instant
shutdown, no warning! After some googling, I discovered it's a common
problem with this model's battery, and that it's also prone to
battery bulging. So I took the battery out for inspection and sure
enough it had begun bulge. Further research (as mentioned previously
on WAMUG) led me to Apple's article extending the warranty from 1 to 2
years for MBP battery bought up to April 2007 (mine just scrapes in).

So I took the battery to an Apple service centre on Scarb Beach Rd

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MacBook Pro Battery Warning (finished one)

[Travis Hansen]

Sorry, clicked send instead of Save.

Thought I would share this as it might help someone else:

I have a MacBook Pro (17) which will turn 2 years old in April. About
a month ago it started to randomly shutdown - and I mean like instant
shutdown, no warning! After some googling, I discovered it's a common
problem with this model's battery, and that it's also prone to
battery bulging. So I took the battery out for inspection and sure
enough it had begun bulge. Further research (as mentioned previously
on WAMUG) led me to Apple's article extending the warranty from 1 to 2
years for MBP battery bought up to April 2007 (mine just scrapes in).

So I took the battery to an Apple service centre on Scarb Beach Rd,
and Apple came back and said that if the battery if removed then the
customer has to purchase a new battery!

WHAT THE? It's a laptop, you're aloud to remove them.

So I phoned Apple and finally got through to Customer Relations to ask
what the?. They said Apple has changed their policy but in good
will we'll send you a new battery for free.

I now have it safely in my Laptop. So if your new battery request gets
knocked back, don't give up.

cheers
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Re: MacBook Pro Battery Warning (finished one)

[Glenn Cardwell]

Thanks for scaring the pants off me Travis. Purchased same at same time.

Can you please describe where you found the bulge? Can't find a  
problem with mine.


Then I read the rest of your email! I deny taking the battery out for  
inspection. Can they prove I did? Where is the sign that says  
Warranty void if removed? Is the bulge visible when battery installed.


Glenn Cardwell
(or not, if questioned about battery removal)


On 29/01/2009, at 1:35 PM, Travis Hansen wrote:


Sorry, clicked send instead of Save.

Thought I would share this as it might help someone else:

I have a MacBook Pro (17) which will turn 2 years old in April. About
a month ago it started to randomly shutdown - and I mean like instant
shutdown, no warning! After some googling, I discovered it's a common
problem with this model's battery, and that it's also prone to
battery bulging. So I took the battery out for inspection and sure
enough it had begun bulge. Further research (as mentioned previously
on WAMUG) led me to Apple's article extending the warranty from 1 to 2
years for MBP battery bought up to April 2007 (mine just scrapes in).

So I took the battery to an Apple service centre on Scarb Beach Rd,
and Apple came back and said that if the battery if removed then the
customer has to purchase a new battery!

WHAT THE? It's a laptop, you're aloud to remove them.

So I phoned Apple and finally got through to Customer Relations to ask
what the?. They said Apple has changed their policy but in good
will we'll send you a new battery for free.

I now have it safely in my Laptop. So if your new battery request gets
knocked back, don't give up.

cheers
Travis

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Re: MacBook Pro Battery Warning (finished one)

[Reg Whitely]

So if you have a backup battery it voids the warranty. Surely not!

Reg

On 29/01/2009, at 1:43 PM, Glenn Cardwell wrote:

Thanks for scaring the pants off me Travis. Purchased same at same  
time.


Can you please describe where you found the bulge? Can't find a  
problem with mine.


Then I read the rest of your email! I deny taking the battery out  
for inspection. Can they prove I did? Where is the sign that says  
Warranty void if removed? Is the bulge visible when battery  
installed.


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Re: ? Screen warning

[Jennifer and Dick Lefroy]

Thank you for the reassurance, James.

regards, Jennifer
On 30/12/2008, at 3:03 PM, James / Hans Kunz wrote:

i have the same effect on my powerbook on tiger.11 for years, it's a  
bit a nuissance, you only get that on wake up

happy new years  James

On 30/12/2008, at 13:49, Jennifer and Dick Lefroy wrote:


Hello Everyone,

When I wake up my Mac OS X Version 10.5.6, the display shows and  
then switches off momentarily.  It then comes on and stays on.   
This has only started over the last few days and I wonder if it  
warns of something more dire happening later?


A Happy New Year to you all and thanks for the generous help.

Jennifer

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Re: ? Screen warning

[Travis Hansen]

I've noticed that on my mac as well for the last year or more. When I
wake it, it shows what was the screensaver before it went to sleep,
then the screen goes off again for a few second before everything's
normal. I figure it's a bit like my brain in the morning - takes a bit
to get going  :-)
Once it's going there's no problem (the mac that is).

Happy New Year

Travis



2008/12/30 Jennifer and Dick Lefroy lefp...@highway1.com.au:
 Thank you for the reassurance, James.

 regards, Jennifer
 On 30/12/2008, at 3:03 PM, James / Hans Kunz wrote:

 i have the same effect on my powerbook on tiger.11 for years, it's a bit a
 nuissance, you only get that on wake up
 happy new years  James

 On 30/12/2008, at 13:49, Jennifer and Dick Lefroy wrote:

 Hello Everyone,

 When I wake up my Mac OS X Version 10.5.6, the display shows and then
 switches off momentarily.  It then comes on and stays on.  This has only
 started over the last few days and I wonder if it warns of something more
 dire happening later?

 A Happy New Year to you all and thanks for the generous help.

 Jennifer

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Re: ? Screen warning

[Robert Howells]

Good Morning

and a Merry Xmas and Happy New Year to all . May it be Helathy Wealthy  
and Wise !


Re Video ...
I can tell you that there is an initial connection to the screen that  
comes from

a source that might be set by the Paramater Ram .

As the software loads this source is removed and the screen is  
switched to the preferred Driver loaded

in the OSX from the hard drive.

The blank ? in the middle will be the delay in the driver loading .

As a matter of interest , are the people noticing delays using an LCD  
monitor ?


Thanks

Bob




On 31/12/2008, at 8:06 AM, Travis Hansen wrote:


I've noticed that on my mac as well for the last year or more. When I
wake it, it shows what was the screensaver before it went to sleep,
then the screen goes off again for a few second before everything's
normal. I figure it's a bit like my brain in the morning - takes a bit
to get going  :-)
Once it's going there's no problem (the mac that is).

Happy New Year

Travis



2008/12/30 Jennifer and Dick Lefroy lefp...@highway1.com.au:

Thank you for the reassurance, James.

regards, Jennifer
On 30/12/2008, at 3:03 PM, James / Hans Kunz wrote:

i have the same effect on my powerbook on tiger.11 for years, it's  
a bit a

nuissance, you only get that on wake up
happy new years  James

On 30/12/2008, at 13:49, Jennifer and Dick Lefroy wrote:


Hello Everyone,

When I wake up my Mac OS X Version 10.5.6, the display shows and  
then
switches off momentarily.  It then comes on and stays on.  This  
has only
started over the last few days and I wonder if it warns of  
something more

dire happening later?

A Happy New Year to you all and thanks for the generous help.

Jennifer

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Re: ? Screen warning

[Brian Scott]

Happy New Year all,

When I had my 19 Acer as the second monitor with my MacBook on start- 
up it would go through
many different possibilities and clicking sounds before settling on my  
preference setting.


Now the Acer is attached to my new iMac it won't go to my preference  
setting I have to reset it in
preferences each time to the same calibrated setting that used to work  
(eventually) with the MacBook.


I can make guesses as to what's going on, e.g.  the new driver doesn't  
bother with old CRTs anymore.


Cheers

Brian

On 31/12/2008, at 8:21 AM, Robert Howells wrote:


Good Morning

and a Merry Xmas and Happy New Year to all . May it be Helathy  
Wealthy and Wise !


Re Video ...
I can tell you that there is an initial connection to the screen  
that comes from

a source that might be set by the Paramater Ram .

As the software loads this source is removed and the screen is  
switched to the preferred Driver loaded

in the OSX from the hard drive.

The blank ? in the middle will be the delay in the driver loading .

As a matter of interest , are the people noticing delays using an  
LCD monitor ?


Thanks

Bob




On 31/12/2008, at 8:06 AM, Travis Hansen wrote:


I've noticed that on my mac as well for the last year or more. When I
wake it, it shows what was the screensaver before it went to sleep,
then the screen goes off again for a few second before everything's
normal. I figure it's a bit like my brain in the morning - takes a  
bit

to get going  :-)
Once it's going there's no problem (the mac that is).

Happy New Year

Travis



2008/12/30 Jennifer and Dick Lefroy lefp...@highway1.com.au:

Thank you for the reassurance, James.

regards, Jennifer
On 30/12/2008, at 3:03 PM, James / Hans Kunz wrote:

i have the same effect on my powerbook on tiger.11 for years,  
it's a bit a

nuissance, you only get that on wake up
happy new years  James

On 30/12/2008, at 13:49, Jennifer and Dick Lefroy wrote:


Hello Everyone,

When I wake up my Mac OS X Version 10.5.6, the display shows and  
then
switches off momentarily.  It then comes on and stays on.  This  
has only
started over the last few days and I wonder if it warns of  
something more

dire happening later?

A Happy New Year to you all and thanks for the generous help.

Jennifer

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? Screen warning

[Jennifer and Dick Lefroy]

Hello Everyone,

When I wake up my Mac OS X Version 10.5.6, the display shows and then  
switches off momentarily.  It then comes on and stays on.  This has  
only started over the last few days and I wonder if it warns of  
something more dire happening later?


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Re: ? Screen warning

[James / Hans Kunz]

i have the same effect on my powerbook on tiger.11 for years, it's a  
bit a nuissance, you only get that on wake up

happy new years  James

On 30/12/2008, at 13:49, Jennifer and Dick Lefroy wrote:


Hello Everyone,

When I wake up my Mac OS X Version 10.5.6, the display shows and  
then switches off momentarily.  It then comes on and stays on.   
This has only started over the last few days and I wonder if it  
warns of something more dire happening later?


A Happy New Year to you all and thanks for the generous help.

Jennifer

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USB Ethernet - 10.5.6 - Warning

[David Moyle]

Hey all

Warning - If you use an Apple Ethernet adapter to get around a broken
port etc on any PPC machine updating will 10.5.6 will leave you
stuck. Still unsure whether its related to a glitch or a deliberate
attempt on Apple's behalf.

Symptoms will include long boot times, not able to access Network
panel in System Preferences and obvisouly.. no network activity on
that interface! =)

Cheers
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Re: WARNING AND SORRY

[pweaver]

I don't think Peter has anything to be sorry about.  I got the same
immediate response after I sent a message to the WAMUG server and I
hadn't looked at his or anyone elses posts for a couple of days.  The
message that came through had a link to a Russian chat list. 

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Re: WARNING AND SORRY

[Peter Bull]

Robert, Ronda and Chris.
A thousand apologies for including that website address and I do hope 
you don't get flooded with spam.

I thought the offers were too good to be true.

On 20/04/2008, at 2:54 PM, Robert Howells wrote:


HI ALL,

It seems my email address was sucked out of my last message to the list
 SENT AT 2.27 .

I had an email from a foreign source sent to me just seconds after mine
was despatched .

I have to question whether there was something hidden behind the link
 in the message that I had replied to .

SO BEWARE


Bob

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Re: WARNING AND SORRY

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Peter,

Everytime I reply to an email to WAMUG, I'm getting spammed from [EMAIL 
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WARNING! AUTOMATED REPLY

Your message has been received by electronic mail pool of Straighthold  
Investment Group Inc., and will be processed by human body shortly. We  
do our best to process customer's requests as soon as possible and you  
should receive a human reply within three business days, so please be  
patient and do not re-send your message while waiting for reply.


While waiting for reply we do recommend you to read our customer's  
Frequently Asked Questions at http://www.liteforex.org/faq.php. Most  
of common questions discussed on our customer's Discussion Board at http://forum.liteforex.net


PLEASE DO NOT REPLY THIS E-MAIL!

Cheers,
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On 22/04/2008, at 11:37 AM, Peter Bull wrote:


Robert, Ronda and Chris.
A thousand apologies for including that website address and I do  
hope you don't get flooded with spam.

I thought the offers were too good to be true.

On 20/04/2008, at 2:54 PM, Robert Howells wrote:


HI ALL,

It seems my email address was sucked out of my last message to the  
list

SENT AT 2.27 .

I had an email from a foreign source sent to me just seconds after  
mine

was despatched .

I have to question whether there was something hidden behind the link
in the message that I had replied to .

SO BEWARE


Bob


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Re: WARNING AND SORRY

[Neil Houghton]

Yes, I also got it when I sent my last post (not a reply) to WAMUG - does
that mean the problem is now on the WAMUG server?

Cheers


Neil
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on 22/4/08 12:30 PM, Ronda Brown at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Peter,
 
 Everytime I reply to an email to WAMUG, I'm getting spammed from
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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 Investment Group Inc., and will be processed by human body shortly. We
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 patient and do not re-send your message while waiting for reply.
 
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 Cheers,
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 On 22/04/2008, at 11:37 AM, Peter Bull wrote:
 
 Robert, Ronda and Chris.
 A thousand apologies for including that website address and I do
 hope you don't get flooded with spam.
 I thought the offers were too good to be true.
 
 On 20/04/2008, at 2:54 PM, Robert Howells wrote:
 
 HI ALL,
 
 It seems my email address was sucked out of my last message to the
 list
 SENT AT 2.27 .
 
 I had an email from a foreign source sent to me just seconds after
 mine
 was despatched .
 
 I have to question whether there was something hidden behind the link
 in the message that I had replied to .
 
 SO BEWARE
 
 
 Bob
 
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Re: WARNING AND SORRY

[Robert Howells]

Neil,

I think so !  I will know if I get a response to this !

We have pointed the finger at Peter Bull's email because it started  
happening after

a reply to that emailBUT

it MAY have only started coincidentally with that email .

Bob


On 22/04/2008, at 12:38 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:

Yes, I also got it when I sent my last post (not a reply) to WAMUG -  
does

that mean the problem is now on the WAMUG server?

Cheers


Neil
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on 22/4/08 12:30 PM, Ronda Brown at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi Peter,

Everytime I reply to an email to WAMUG, I'm getting spammed from
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

WARNING! AUTOMATED REPLY

Your message has been received by electronic mail pool of  
Straighthold
Investment Group Inc., and will be processed by human body shortly.  
We
do our best to process customer's requests as soon as possible and  
you

should receive a human reply within three business days, so please be
patient and do not re-send your message while waiting for reply.

While waiting for reply we do recommend you to read our customer's
Frequently Asked Questions at http://www.liteforex.org/faq.php. Most
of common questions discussed on our customer's Discussion Board at
http://forum.liteforex.net

PLEASE DO NOT REPLY THIS E-MAIL!

Cheers,
Ronni

On 22/04/2008, at 11:37 AM, Peter Bull wrote:


Robert, Ronda and Chris.
A thousand apologies for including that website address and I do
hope you don't get flooded with spam.
I thought the offers were too good to be true.

On 20/04/2008, at 2:54 PM, Robert Howells wrote:


HI ALL,

It seems my email address was sucked out of my last message to the
list
SENT AT 2.27 .

I had an email from a foreign source sent to me just seconds after
mine
was despatched .

I have to question whether there was something hidden behind the  
link

in the message that I had replied to .

SO BEWARE


Bob


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WARNING

[Robert Howells]

HI ALL,

It seems my email address was sucked out of my last message to the list
 SENT AT 2.27 .

I had an email from a foreign source sent to me just seconds after mine
was despatched .

I have to question whether there was something hidden behind the link
 in the message that I had replied to .

SO BEWARE


Bob

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Re: WARNING

[Ronda Brown]

On 20/04/2008, at 2:54 PM, Robert Howells wrote:


HI ALL,

It seems my email address was sucked out of my last message to the  
list

SENT AT 2.27 .

I had an email from a foreign source sent to me just seconds after  
mine

was despatched .

I have to question whether there was something hidden behind the link
in the message that I had replied to .

SO BEWARE


Yes, my email address was also Bob. Immediately I replied to WAMUG list.
So I would suggest WAMUGers delete the email from Peter Bull  
immediately.


Ronni

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Re: WARNING

[Chris Burton]

Me too, almost straight away

from: pool @ sig-support  .  com

never heard of it..

went straight into the junk and erased from existence!!

what is going on here? Something must be hidden in at wamug to capture  
outgoings?


chris

On 20/04/2008, at 3:00 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:



On 20/04/2008, at 2:54 PM, Robert Howells wrote:


HI ALL,

It seems my email address was sucked out of my last message to the  
list

SENT AT 2.27 .

I had an email from a foreign source sent to me just seconds after  
mine

was despatched .

I have to question whether there was something hidden behind the link
in the message that I had replied to .

SO BEWARE


Yes, my email address was also Bob. Immediately I replied to WAMUG  
list.
So I would suggest WAMUGers delete the email from Peter Bull  
immediately.


Ronni

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LEOPARD WARNING

[Robert Howells]

Good Morning ,

All those usingLEOPARD   should check out the item about
a serious   Finder   bug !

It is documented here  : http://www.macintouch.com/


Bob

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Leopard-Back To My Mac Security Warning

[Ronda Brown]

Hi WAMUGers,

Leopard is 'One Cool Cat', I'm loving it. I have not found anything  
'yet' to complain about,
everything is working so well. I feel my Airport Network is faster  
than in Tiger.


I have been using 'Back To My Mac' successfully, but have just read  
this from TidBITS,

so will be turning this feature off until Apple responds.


Back to My Mac Security Warning** -- Alan Oppenheimer and Open Door
 Networks are cautioning Leopard users to turn off the Back to My Mac
 feature due to a security vulnerability that enables anyone with
 access to your .Mac account password to control your Mac remotely.
 Back to My Mac is located in the .Mac preference pane, and is
 enabled by default. [Open Door has now posted more details.]

http://www.isfym.com/site/blog/Entries/2007/10/27_Don’t_go_Back_to_My_Mac.html 

http://www.isfym.com/Site/Blog/Entries/2007/10/29_More_about_Back_to_My_Mac.html 



 They write: The problem came in when we selected the server Mac in
 the client's sidebar. Instead of either connecting to that Mac's
 File Sharing as a guest, or asking us for that Mac's password, Back
 to My Mac automatically connected to the server Mac's File Sharing
 as that Mac's owner without ever asking for the owner's name and
 password. Worse yet, the same thing happened when then clicking on
 'Share Screen...' giving us full remote control of the Mac without
 ever entering its password.

Cheers,

Ronni
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