RE: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-03-03 Thread J . v . Baardwijk
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Horn, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: maandag 3 maart 2003 3:49 Aan: Killer Bs Discussion Onderwerp: RE: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack? Not to mention the Holodeck Interactive Edition of the _Kama Sutra_... GRIN

RE: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-03-03 Thread Reggie Bautista
Doug wrote: GSV Ancient Submariner John H. replied: Do you rhyme? Sorry, I'm stuck in a cramped middle seat on a flight from Atlanta to Dallas and couldn't resist. Do you now how hard it is to type when the guy in front of you has his seat all the way back?!? Very? ;-) Rime is an old form of

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-03-02 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd love to have one, but I'm afraid the electricity bill would be too high. Playing the Holodeck version of games such as Half-Life or Unreal would make gaming so much more... interesting... :-) Not to mention the Holodeck Interactive Edition of the

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-03-02 Thread Jim Sharkey
J. van Baardwijk wrote: Not to mention the Holodeck Interactive Edition of the _Kama Sutra_... See, that's the problem. To paraphrase Dennis Miller, if some ensign can turn on a switch, crack open a Romulan ale, and have Seven of Nine do the naked mambo on his johnson, why the heck would

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-03-02 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 13:04 2-3-2003 +, Jose Ortiz wrote: I'd love to have one, but I'm afraid the electricity bill would be too high. Playing the Holodeck version of games such as Half-Life or Unreal would make gaming so much more... interesting... :-) Not to mention the Holodeck Interactive Edition of

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Steve Sloan II [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 10:48 AM Subject: Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack? Doug Pensinger wrote: GSV Ancient Submariner With a penguin hanging

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-03-02 Thread Reggie Bautista
Jose wrote: Makes you wonder where did Wesley Crusher spend his free time, after he was done saving the Enterprise. ACK! MY EYES! MY EYES! Oh, sorry... did anyone else just go to a really scary visual place? Reggie Bautista Buffy Quote Maru

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-03-02 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Sun, 2 Mar 2003, Jim Sharkey wrote: See, that's the problem. To paraphrase Dennis Miller, if some ensign can turn on a switch, crack open a Romulan ale, and have Seven of Nine do the naked mambo on his johnson, why the heck would he ever do any work? :-) So the really big question

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-03-02 Thread Julia Thompson
Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd love to have one, but I'm afraid the electricity bill would be too high. Playing the Holodeck version of games such as Half-Life or Unreal would make gaming so much more... interesting... :-) Not to mention the

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-03-02 Thread Jim Sharkey
Marvin Long, Jr. wrote: On Sun, 2 Mar 2003, Jim Sharkey wrote: See, that's the problem. To paraphrase Dennis Miller, if some ensign can turn on a switch, crack open a Romulan ale, and have Seven of Nine do the naked mambo on his johnson, why the heck would he ever do any work? :-) So the

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-03-02 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] On at least one of those times, didn't he have to save the Enterprise from some goof-up that he himself was responsible for? You *don't* let a kid goof around with a starship. Period. Julia How a starship that represents the prime technological advance of

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-03-02 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 02:44 PM 3/2/03 -0800, Doug Pensinger wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: I preferred to spend my military days hurtling through the air at hundreds of miles per hour in a flimsy tin can rather than moving hundreds of feet under the water at a few knots in a flimsy tin can . . . Well now, flimsy

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-03-02 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 11:15 PM 3/2/03 +, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] On at least one of those times, didn't he have to save the Enterprise from some goof-up that he himself was responsible for? You *don't* let a kid goof around with a starship. Period. Julia How a

RE: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-03-02 Thread Horn, John
From: Doug Pensinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GSV Ancient Submariner Do you rhyme? Sorry, I'm stuck in a cramped middle seat on a flight from Atlanta to Dallas and couldn't resist. Do you now how hard it is to type when the guy in front of you has his seat all the way back?!? - jmh Ouch

RE: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-03-02 Thread Horn, John
From: J. van Baardwijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd love to have one, but I'm afraid the electricity bill would be too high. Playing the Holodeck version of games such as Half-Life or Unreal would make gaming so much more... interesting... :-) I'll wait for the Holodeck version of

RE: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-03-02 Thread Jim Sharkey
Horn, John wrote: From: J. van Baardwijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Not to mention the Holodeck Interactive Edition of the _Kama Sutra_... GRIN What would Sonja say about this, h??? Probably Hurry up, slowpoke! I'm lonely in here! At least if he's lucky. :-) Jim

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-03-01 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Interesting! I never saw many of the animated episodes, though I read a number of the James Blish short stories based on them. IIRC, Alan Dean Foster did the books based on TAS, while Blish adapted the TOS episodes, and wrote one original

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-03-01 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I have to choose between coding COBOL and coding RPG, I would much rather go for COBOL. I feel I can exercise a lot more control with a computer programming language that uses instructions that resemble natural language. RPG is not really a

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-03-01 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 11:24 PM 3/1/03 +, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] And TOS doesn't have holodeck episodes. One of the things which made it better than TNG, IMO. I can see why you say that. The lack of another piece of technology that can go wrong will force the

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-03-01 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 11:29 PM 3/1/03 +, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I have to choose between coding COBOL and coding RPG, I would much rather go for COBOL. I feel I can exercise a lot more control with a computer programming language that uses instructions that

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-03-01 Thread Doug Pensinger
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: But when I watch a movie which takes place on a nuclear submarine (perhaps the closest contemporary environment to that of a starship), I don't want to spend the entire hour or two of my time simply watching the crew sitting in the wardroom watching the weekly movie

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-03-01 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 07:50 PM 3/1/03 -0800, Doug Pensinger wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: But when I watch a movie which takes place on a nuclear submarine (perhaps the closest contemporary environment to that of a starship), I don't want to spend the entire hour or two of my time simply watching the crew

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-28 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 01:10 AM 2/25/03 +, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: From: Marvin Long, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] And TOS doesn't have holodeck episodes. One of the things which made it better than TNG, IMO. Does the continuity of The Animated Series count? They did have the holodeck there! Courtesy of DC

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-28 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 11:07 AM 2/26/03 +, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't particularly have a problem with COBOL; in fact, I like it a good sight better than some *other* languages to which I've been exposed, like FORTRAN (I know, I know, they do completely different

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-28 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 07:28 AM 2/25/03 -0600, Marvin Long, Jr. wrote: On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: And TOS doesn't have holodeck episodes. Marvin Long Does the continuity of The Animated Series count? They did have the holodeck there! Courtesy of DC Fontana, I believe. :) Interesting!

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-28 Thread Reggie Bautista
Marvin wrote: And TOS doesn't have holodeck episodes. Ronn! replied: One of the things which made it better than TNG, IMO. I actually really liked two of the holodeck episodes. The first one was season one's 11001001, the episode with the aliens called Bynars who hijack the ship after making

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-28 Thread Reggie Bautista
Ronn! wrote: (FWIW, I have always hated with a passion books/stories/etc. which end with He woke up and it was all a dream, and most of the holodeck episodes are essentially that.) OK, somehow I didn't see this line in your email originally. Please feel free to ignore my question about why you

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-28 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:55 PM 2/28/03 -0600, Reggie Bautista wrote: Ronn! wrote: (FWIW, I have always hated with a passion books/stories/etc. which end with He woke up and it was all a dream, and most of the holodeck episodes are essentially that.) OK, somehow I didn't see this line in your email originally.

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-26 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't particularly have a problem with COBOL; in fact, I like it a good sight better than some *other* languages to which I've been exposed, like FORTRAN (I know, I know, they do completely different things). Reggie Bautista If I have to choose

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-26 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 20:22 24-2-2003 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offense. -- E. W. Dijkstra: Ah, Dijkstra. I saw him on a panel discussion once. He insisted that all computer programs should be proven, or verified,

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-25 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, Reggie Bautista wrote: Marvin wrote: Ok, I just had to check... http://www.samueljohnson.com/refuge.html which has the quote as Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. When I was looking for that quote to post it, I found not 1, not 2, but 3 pages that

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-25 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: From: Marvin Long, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ahhh...I had the 1701 ERTL model for a long time - I still have a die-cast TOS Enterprise that shoots little yellow round photon torpedos and has a detachable shuttle. I bought it from Sears in the

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-25 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: And TOS doesn't have holodeck episodes. Marvin Long Does the continuity of The Animated Series count? They did have the holodeck there! Courtesy of DC Fontana, I believe. :) Interesting! I never saw many of the animated episodes, though

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-25 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: Unfortunately, 16+ years of ST:TNG episodes on re-runs aren't helping that. Maybe somebody in Paramount hopes that if they re-run the episodes long enough, the characters will achieve the same legendary status. Tough luck. 16+ years$#!*,

RE: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-25 Thread Horn, John
From: Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] That is the first thing that struck me as odd in Enterprise. Capt. Archer also follows this style of command. OK. I've only watched a few episodes of Enterprise before I decided it wasn't worth the effort to find it (we've no UPN

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-25 Thread Julia Thompson
Marvin Long, Jr. wrote: On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: Unfortunately, 16+ years of ST:TNG episodes on re-runs aren't helping that. Maybe somebody in Paramount hopes that if they re-run the episodes long enough, the characters will achieve the same legendary status.

RE: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-25 Thread Horn, John
From: Marvin Long, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unfortunately, 16+ years of ST:TNG episodes on re-runs aren't helping that. Maybe somebody in Paramount hopes that if they re-run the episodes long enough, the characters will achieve the same legendary status. Tough luck. 16+

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-25 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 08:22 PM 2/24/2003 -0600, you wrote: Reggie Bautista wrote: Marvin wrote: Ok, I just had to check... http://www.samueljohnson.com/refuge.html which has the quote as Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. When I was looking for that quote to post it, I found not 1, not 2, but 3

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-25 Thread Julia Thompson
Kevin Tarr wrote: At 08:22 PM 2/24/2003 -0600, you wrote: Reggie Bautista wrote: Marvin wrote: Ok, I just had to check... http://www.samueljohnson.com/refuge.html which has the quote as Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. When I was looking for that quote

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-25 Thread Reggie Bautista
I quoted: The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offense. -- E. W. Dijkstra: Kevin replied: I didn't see this originally. What did he mean by this, what's wrong with COBOL? In my shop they have tested other systems and nothing can perform

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-25 Thread Reggie Bautista
Bryon wrote: Even though I wasn't enjoying it very much, I watched Voyager out of force of (ST-watching) habit up until the (second season?) episode Threshold, which was the worst, most god-awful piece of rediculous crud I'd ever seen come out of the ST franchise. Far worse than Spock's Brain,

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-25 Thread Medievalbk
When DS9 ended, Ron Moore moved on to Voyager, and he tried to make some changes and add new ideas, so they booted him. I think those are the reasons why the ST franchise is dying. As I stated before, Moore's Dyson Sphere + 1000 identical Enterprises should have been the

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-25 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Julia Thompson wrote: You can still feel old, though. Remember piling into one Jester dorm room to watch it with a zillion other geeks? :) Ah, memories. A dozen plus people chanting macho macho Picard (or whoever's in a fight at that moment, except Worf, who despite

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, Bryon Daly wrote: TNG featured more personal character growth than TOS did (which isn't saying much, really), but not as much as it should/could have had. For every The Inner Light episode (IMHO the single best trek episode ever), there were 10 episodes something like

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Sat, 22 Feb 2003, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: TOS is embedded in the collective consciousness in a way TNG can never even aspire to be. I remember working as IT in San Juan's Public Works Dept. I used to have ERTL's NCC1701-A model Ahhh...I had the 1701 ERTL model for a long time - I

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Sat, 22 Feb 2003, Reggie Bautista wrote: You don't remember Salvor Hardin, the mayor who said Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right, Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent and many other sayings, and is one of the coolest politicians in science

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Sun, 23 Feb 2003, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: However, and someone out there must agree with me, *something* happened with the Trek franchise after the end of TNG and shortly after Generations was released. If I must find hard evidence of this claim, I can mention that the popularity of

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Steve Sloan II
Marvin Long, Jr. wrote: Patriotism is the last refuge of the incompetent. --Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784) I thought patriotism was the last refuge of the *scoundrel.* (?) I'm guessing that Mark Twain (?) paraphrased Samuel Johnson's quote.

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, Steve Sloan II wrote: Marvin Long, Jr. wrote: Patriotism is the last refuge of the incompetent. --Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784) I thought patriotism was the last refuge of the *scoundrel.* (?) I'm guessing that Mark Twain (?) paraphrased

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Reggie Bautista
Marvin wrote: Ok, I just had to check... http://www.samueljohnson.com/refuge.html which has the quote as Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. When I was looking for that quote to post it, I found not 1, not 2, but 3 pages that stated it as ...of the incompetent. And now I can't find

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 05:05:59PM -0600, Reggie Bautista wrote: which has the quote as Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. When I was looking for that quote to post it, I found not 1, not 2, but 3 pages that stated it as ...of the incompetent. And now I can't find any. Guess

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Reggie Bautista
I wrote: And now I can't find any. Guess how that makes me feel :-) Erik replied: Patriotic? Incompetent? Scoundrelish? :-) At least two out of the three :-) Reggie Bautista No Value Added Maru _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: Marvin Long, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ahhh...I had the 1701 ERTL model for a long time - I still have a die-cast TOS Enterprise that shoots little yellow round photon torpedos and has a detachable shuttle. I bought it from Sears in the seventies with a $20 bill I found lying on the ground in

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: Marvin Long, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] And TOS doesn't have holodeck episodes. Marvin Long Does the continuity of The Animated Series count? They did have the holodeck there! Courtesy of DC Fontana, I believe. :) TAS also boasted the first holodeck goes bananas and tries to kill the crew

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: Marvin Long, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Of course, by the time ST:TMP came out, the original cast already included a number of cultural icons - putting them on the big screen just confirmed that status. TNG was a popular show, but as you've pointed out earlier, it was not a cast of iconic

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Reggie Bautista
JJ wrote: Would Gene consider DS9 bad Trek? Most likely, and I agree with your view. His associates claim that he totally despised the premise for the show, like I mentioned a couple of weeks back. He was very protective of his property. If I remember correctly, his opinion was: if he didn't

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Bryon Daly
Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: Unfortunately, 16+ years of ST:TNG episodes on re-runs aren't helping that. Maybe somebody in Paramount hopes that if they re-run the episodes long enough, the characters will achieve the same legendary status. Tough luck. Anybody has any idea on what the theme for

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Reggie Bautista
JJ wrote: Anybody has any idea on what the theme for the next Trek film may be? I'm not sure about the success of ST:X either. First, to answer your second question, this link: http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2003-02/21/09.00.tv or http://makeashorterlink.com/?U11954693 As far as

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Reggie Bautista
Marvin wrote: And TOS doesn't have holodeck episodes. JJ replied: Does the continuity of The Animated Series count? They did have the holodeck there! Courtesy of DC Fontana, I believe. :) But that wouldn't be TOS, it would be TAS, even though it had TOC (the original crew), right? ;-) Of

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Bryon Daly
Reggie Bautista wrote: I can understand that, and can sympathize to some extent. I'm a big fan of Babylon 5, but if someone tried to do a show in the B5 universe without approval of jms, the Roddenberry of B5, I probably wouldn't be interested and I'm *certain* jms would be very unhappy and

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Julia Thompson
Reggie Bautista wrote: Marvin wrote: Ok, I just had to check... http://www.samueljohnson.com/refuge.html which has the quote as Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. When I was looking for that quote to post it, I found not 1, not 2, but 3 pages that stated it as ...of the

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-24 Thread Julia Thompson
Bryon Daly wrote: Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: Unfortunately, 16+ years of ST:TNG episodes on re-runs aren't helping that. Maybe somebody in Paramount hopes that if they re-run the episodes long enough, the characters will achieve the same legendary status. Tough luck. Anybody has any

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-23 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] But I've heard people say that Roddenberry would have never allowed DS9 to go in the directions it did. This would have been tragic. Some of the things that Roddenberry allegedly would not have liked, especially the darker tone, are the things I liked

RE: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-23 Thread Jim Sharkey
Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: True! Season 1 was especially notorious for being a major revolving door of staff members. They were dropping like flies. Season One was not too good, particularly the episodes that were essentially rips of TOS episodes. The scripts, acting, a lot of it was just not

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-22 Thread Reggie Bautista
George wrote: Bayta Darrel, Hober Mallow, Salvor Hardin, Preem Palver, Gaal Dornick leap to mind (even if I forget the speeling). Debbi replied: Oh, boy, not one of those names rings a bell! (Think I read that series over 2 decades ago.) You don't remember Salvor Hardin, the mayor who said

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-22 Thread Julia Thompson
Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: You'll have to agree with me that when TNG was good, it was GREAT. But when it was poor, it was REALLY bad. I may sound like a purist, but I have always divided TNG into two eras: before Gene's death, and after Gene's death. I humbly think quality control in TNG,

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-22 Thread Reggie Bautista
JJ wrote: You'll have to agree with me that when TNG was good, it was GREAT. But when it was poor, it was REALLY bad. I may sound like a purist, but I have always divided TNG into two eras: before Gene's death, and after Gene's death. I humbly think quality control in TNG, and the Trek

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-22 Thread Reggie Bautista
JJ wrote: When I was a 4 year old kid, I used to watch TOS in reruns with MY GRANDMOTHER!!! She was in LOVE with Spock. She found those pointed ears.. fascinating. ;-) My... [does quick relationship math]... step-grandmother-in-law is a huge fan of G'Kar on Babylon 5. Actually, she's a big

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-22 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] But it took them a little while to get it right. I don't think the first season was as good as seasons 2-4, frex. True! Season 1 was especially notorious for being a major revolving door of staff members. They were dropping like flies. I personally think

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-22 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: George wrote: Bayta Darrel, Hober Mallow, Salvor Hardin, Preem Palver, Gaal Dornick leap to mind (even if I forget the speeling). Debbi replied: Oh, boy, not one of those names rings a bell! (Think I read that series over 2 decades ago.)

RE: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-22 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 6:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack? From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] But it took them a little while

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-21 Thread Julia Thompson
Jon Gabriel wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Julia Thompson Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 8:34 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack? Jon Gabriel wrote: From: Reggie Bautista

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-21 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Reggie Bautista wrote: It's interesting to see how two different people can like the same things for different and sometimes contradictory reasons. I think your analysis is really very good, but you obviously look at ST:TOS and ST:TNG differently than I, and that's

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-21 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snippage Jon or Reggie (I lost track!) wrote: I thought everyone had seen that! Heck, Shatner even wrote a book entitled Get a Life! I would easily be able to convincingly argue that I'm one of the biggest ST fans on the list and even I

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-21 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: Bryon Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack? Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:57:03 -0500 Marvin Long, Jr. wrote: Actually, this relationship is one

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-21 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Bryon Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marvin Long, Jr. wrote: snipped most of good discussion re: ST-TOS TNG Hm. While I agree that the best SF tends to have good characters, when I *think* of great SF I tend to think of the big picture. I loved Dune, for instance, but I have no

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-21 Thread G. D. Akin
Deborah Harrell wrote: I love Asimov's Foundation series, but in the original trilogy Seldon is little more than a glyph; and I'd be hard-pressed to remember the name of the rest of the characters (aside from The Mule). - Bayta Darrel, Hober Mallow, Salvor Hardin, Preem

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-21 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- G. D. Akin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deborah Harrell wrote: I love Asimov's Foundation series, but in the original trilogy Seldon is little more than a glyph; and I'd be hard-pressed to remember the name of the rest of the characters (aside from The Mule). Actually, I think that was

L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-20 Thread Reggie Bautista
Talking about Star Trek: The Motion(less) Picture (sorry for the cheap shot, I'll get back to it near the end of the email), I wrote: I thought the movie was good, but it didn't really feel like Star Trek to me (of course, I first saw it when I was 10 or 11, so what do I know :-). Marvin

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-20 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack? Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:59:27 -0600 Talking about Star Trek: The Motion(less) Picture (sorry for the cheap shot, I'll get

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-20 Thread Reggie Bautista
L3?!? 9K?!? It's just a TV show! Get a life, people! Move out of your parent's basements! I've been out of my parents' basement... well, actually I lived upstairs but... anyway, I've been out on my own for a while... well, actually married now, so not exactly alone, but... well, you get

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-20 Thread Julia Thompson
Jon Gabriel wrote: From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack? Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:59:27 -0600 Talking about Star Trek: The Motion(less) Picture (sorry

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-20 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Jon Gabriel wrote: L3?!? 9K?!? It's just a TV show! Get a life, people! Move out of your parent's basements! Ha! I resemble that remark! :-) Marvin Long Best SNL Ever Maru Austin, Texas Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter Ashcroft, LLP (Formerly the USA)

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-20 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Marvin Long, Jr. wrote: On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Jon Gabriel wrote: L3?!? 9K?!? It's just a TV show! Get a life, people! Move out of your parent's basements! Ha! I resemble that remark! :-) PS - Would you prefer another 9k about Iraq? ;- Marvin Long

RE: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-20 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Julia Thompson Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 8:34 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack? Jon Gabriel wrote: From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply

RE: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-20 Thread Jon Gabriel
No! Not that! Anything but that! *grin* Jon I'll Be Good I Promise Maru -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marvin Long, Jr. Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:23 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-20 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 11:34 PM Subject: RE: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack? No! Not that! Anything but that! PS - Would you prefer another 9k

Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack?

2003-02-20 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 11:45 PM Subject: Re: L3 Re: Your Favorite SciFi/Fantasy Movie Soundtrack? - Original Message - From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED