On Dienstag, 14. Juli 2020, 17:31:20 CEST Chris Morley wrote:
> I don't understand your hostility.
Yes, I'm not smart enuf :(
Last weeks I worked hard on linuxcnc and the deeper I dig, the more upset I
get. Such a great project and nobody cares about quality ...
That makes me mad.
... and when
m
is illogical to the user.
We have a saying:
the genius of an invention reveals in its ease of use,
not in the complexity of its structure
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l parameters, which
of cause can be negative.
Its very poor, that there are so many weird workarounds in linuxcnc caused by
ignorance, lack of knowledge or misunderstanding :(
I don't wonna support that crap, so may be, its better some other guy cares
for trans
iagrams should be clear and understandable.
Arbitrary positions should be marked as such. The current picture is
misleading - especially if your unsure and look for help. It is a help page!
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ferent ;)
I only translated small part of the language file, but you see pretty the same
message appear again and again and again ...
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On Montag, 13. Juli 2020, 16:55:28 CEST andy pugh wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 at 15:31, Reinhard
wrote:
> > So when the home-switch signals contact, then that is my home position,
>
> The home switch can be anywhere on the axis. It does not have to be at
> a position called
I explain that position to a newcomer of linuxcnc if I don't
understand it?
I would understand the picture, if the home position would be called predefined
position (which could be reached with G28 or G30), but Home Position is quite
different from that.
cheer
e without
supervising of a native speaker.
I thought, every german would know english, as it is teached at elementary
school already. But reality is different. I met several germans interested in
cnc, that don't know english. So having docs in native language can help
spread the project.
cheers
Please refer to english docs for actual docs.
If you like to have docs in your language, don't hesitate to jump in and
work on it ..."
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h one"
That should depend on the desktop system you install for the live cd.
I use kde for years and never heard about evince.
Afaik debians default desktop system is gnome, so the pdf-reader should be the
gnome default (if you're going with debians defaults), but I don't know, what
gno
ion libtirpc-dev and the tests passed.
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On Sonntag, 5. Juli 2020, 10:34:00 CEST John Morris wrote:
> Can you please include the `stderr` and `results` files from the failed
> test? That should tell us more about what went wrong.
stderr is this:
- ---
+ set -xe
++ pkg-config --silence-errors --cflags libtirpc
+
-test.html“,
needed by „tests“. end.
source ../scripts/rip-environment
runtests
fails with:
Runtest: 234 tests run, 233 successful, 1 failed + 0 expected
Failed:
/usr/local/src/linuxcnc-dev/tests/build/header-sanity
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Hi Rod,
On Sonntag, 14. Juni 2020, 15:55:44 CEST Rod Webster wrote:
> There are not many masochists like
> me that want to dig into the /src/emc folder.
looks like I'm the same masochist =:O
Maybe we should fraternize ;)
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put in a claim. That's all.
I'm not a linuxcnc developer, but I'm working on to become one ;)
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roject root.
That file contains a paragraph referred to warranty.
With that in mind, there's absolutely NO base for any requirement.
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Perfekt :)
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On Sonntag, 14. Juni 2020, 13:44:23 CEST Rod Webster wrote:
> >Well, call me simpleminded, but I won't accept any requirement from nobody
> > without bugs on the table.
>
> Well I have a bug on the table trying to extend State tags to ...
LOL - love it :D
ent, or simply
say: no thank you.
That's my point of view and I hope, every developer has the same freedom. I
would support that freedom. Anytime.
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ble, you won't get a "NO"
With opensource projects you have just two and only this two options:
1. ask for help
2. do it yourself
Everything else is inappropriate!
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/lib/python/gladevcp/hal_pythonplugin.py",
line 42, in
from .hal_sourceview import *
File "/usr/local/src/linuxcnc-dev/lib/python/gladevcp/hal_sourceview.py",
line 27, in
import gtksourceview2 as gtksourceview
ImportError: No module named gtk
vertically?
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> actual behaviour.
Whow - that never has been true - at least from my point of view.
But may be I focus a different picture.
Never mind - keep on rocking ;)
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h the project ahead - so it wasn't you, that I was
talking about.
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don't know/care about the value of time.
To me, linuxcnc looks like an academic research on "how to extend obfuscation
by being usable anyway" - so why not put manpower on that issue?
If the source would be readable, more developer would like
ng things ahead makes more sense,
than spending it on releases.
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fail, no matter whether you have imperial setup or mm setup.
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the bug, you should follow my description. Its just a one liner.
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0m0,095s
sys 0m0,087s
Hope you find it useful.
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d verify that
issue.
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Hi Andy,
thank you for your attention!
On Donnerstag, 4. Juni 2020, 21:53:47 CEST andy pugh wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 07:26, Reinhard
> wrote:
> > Messages like "need to be enabled, in coord mode for linear move" appear
> > in
> > GUI, but no one
but no one tries to execute a motion command.
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Motion id 0 took 0.00 seconds.
I did not remove a line from greps output.
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f logs collected I hit stop.
First I thought: ok, this time it stops.
... but then it started to run again (stop button of axis was already shown as
pressed) and the tool run across the workpiece.
I uploaded a screenshot: https://www.imagebanana.com/s/1774/QnA1w8ks.html
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.
Outgoing motion id is 33.
Outgoing motion id is 36.
Outgoing motion id is 39.
Outgoing motion id is 42.
Outgoing motion id is 45.
Outgoing motion id is 55.
The same gaps than I noted in my app.
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On Montag, 1. Juni 2020, 01:00:15 CEST andy pugh wrote:
> On Sun, 31 May 2020 at 17:58, Reinhard
>>
> > > Which LinuxCNC version?
> >
> > master from repository.
>
> Is 2.8 the same? I am wondering if this is related to
> https://github.com/LinuxCN
re already processed. I guess, you all know the processing of 3D-
chips.ngc ...
https://www.imagebanana.com/s/1773/edTFqRlw.html
I thought, that status feedback had been improved lately.
Any comment is welcome.
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> Which LinuxCNC version?
master from repository.
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tes to stopped too -
... but backend was stil executing motion and sending coordinate updates - for
about one second or more. That can't be ok.
Stop means everything should stop immediately - without question or condition.
Well, at least in my world.
cheers Reinh
inifile contains G54.
Do I have to execute startupcodes from GUI at startup, or can I assume, that
the backend reads and executes the startup codes?
How can I get same result as axis from interpreter, using it standalone?
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On Mittwoch, 20. Mai 2020, 10:28:05 CEST andy pugh wrote:
> On Wed, 20 May 2020 at 03:29, Reinhard
wrote:
> > ... and from tool table: tool 21 is in slot 5 and tool 30 is in slot 21.
> > Neither tool 21 nor tool 31 are mentioned in gcode file, so a random
> >
table: tool 21 is in slot 5 and tool 30 is in slot 21.
Neither tool 21 nor tool 31 are mentioned in gcode file, so a random
toolchanger can't use these slots for whatever reason.
> Shrugs shoulders
So we are two :)
Thanks for your reply.
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not with comma). So if the tip was at Z0, it should be at ±56.4 - as G21 has
been commanded.
Then at line 51 a tool #5 will be changed. I don't have a tool #5 in tool.tbl
and no T5 in the whole gcode file.
Please gimme a ha
Hi,
On Sonntag, 17. Mai 2020, 17:46:14 CEST andy pugh wrote:
> On Sun, 17 May 2020 at 16:13, Reinhard
wrote:
> > in ioControl.cc I found the note: "only valid when tool-prepare=TRUE", but
> > where do I have to enable that switch?
> > That pin is not mentioned in
Hi,
On Samstag, 16. Mai 2020, 16:21:55 CEST Reinhard wrote:
> So I wrote a gcode-file, that has a T-word after the M6 ...
> ... but the prepare-pin did not light.
in ioControl.cc I found the note: "only valid when tool-prepare=TRUE", but
where do I have to enable that
T23 and the last M6 I expected to see the tool-prepare pin true.
When I watched pins, it does not matter, whether they are short cutted. I see
the signal too (same as halmeter)
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's what I think and would like to become true one day :)
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. What Surprise!
May be I was trapped by my dying pc?
Any way - whoohoo - hal: here I come ;)
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Hi Chris,
thanks a lot for your hints.
I'll follow your advices asap.
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Next timeslot will be reserved for research :)
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hether I'm willing to head that
challenge.
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Hi Gene,
On Donnerstag, 14. Mai 2020, 09:47:01 CEST Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 14 May 2020 03:06:41 Reinhard wrote:
> > P.S.: by the way - what does the css in spindlestatus mean?
>
> Constant Surface Speed, where the rpms are modified upwards as the radius
> gets sm
be useful for hardware setup, but where can I read the current rpm
from nml-status?
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Hi,
I played with the override controls and wonder, if the override scale is used
at spindle rotation?
The speed value does not change on altering scale value. Is the current
spindle speed available as for feed or rapid feed values?
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P.S.: by the way - what does the css
cal repos. But on startup it requires a license file.
Exit is the only alternative - does not run as freeware.
For public repositories I don't need such tools, as the github-browser offers
all I need.
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> On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 09:49, Reinhard
wrote:
> > May be that the B-axis from 9axis inifile is the last joint to home.
>
> That isn't something that you need to guess. What does the INI file say?
Well, if I understand
Hi Kurt,
thank you very much for the hints!
I'll go for it.
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homed.
When I press the "home all" button in my app (with both apps freshly
restarted), which sends the same nml-command like axis, the homing will fail.
The only difference I can see, is the third parameter from debug output.
But I don't know, what that number means or where it
JOINT_HOME --( +123,+24, +16,-1,)
I don't know where the +17 or +16 comes from. I only put the -1 in the
structure.
Please help
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he whole file between different commit
stages.
Krusader has a nice way to compare two versions of a file. May be there's
something similar for git too?
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Hi Andy,
I'm sorry - can't find any change of axis_9axis.ini - don't know how it
happened.
So please forget my post.
May be my memory got globbered :(
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of [DISPLAY] section stil shows the old state.
So that's insane.
I think, if a blank separator is needed (why now?), than it should be added
anywhere.
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ot to work with jogging.
Or at least, I don't know how to make it work.
>From what I found in nml-layer I could change my app to execute jog-commands,
but not show, what's going on.
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Hi,
I currently work on jogging controls and wonder: is there some info in status
area where I can get rid of current jogging actions?
I found the commands to start or stop jogging, but no jog-fields in status
messages.
Did I miss something, or is there no feedback available?
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ble with the provided instructions.
That improvement could have enriched linuxcnc - and now it looks like it will
get lost.
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orld.
Any network communication could read from those files and do the conversion
stuff - and for so, the extra time for conversion does not harm execution of
backend (/realtime) processes.
For me, that's flexible and performant at the same time.
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layer. That's the fastest way: memory access for reader and writer - without
any conversion.
So network usage needs to be well calculated. Don't ever use it without any
need.
... and that means, that I don't estimate all design changes of machin
infoboard.
Don't know, whether it is possible, but I'm working on it.
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to be somewhat slow - as the human eyes are slow.
So it does make no sense at all, have a UI which has an refreshrate higher
than 24Hz. Nobody can see the difference.
So coupling should relax the different timings.
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rocesses started by halcmd from my app.
Shared memory without nml-handshake would be nice.
Then clients would not slow down halui - although I don't know about the
impact of nml-handshake.
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may be too slow, but response time of the running app is fast enuf for
anything.
I don't really need my own UI - if another UI would offer, what I'm looking
for, it would be just fine.
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Hi Phill,
thanks for the hint!
works, but I forgot, that tk has different screen orientation, so position is
odd. But position overriding from window-manager works, so now it works as
wanted.
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, it has the size given from the window-manager. Then after
a short delay it shrinks to the tiny size.
May be, its possible to set the size of the main window earlier, so that it
accepts the size given from window-manager?
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cheating bios, the box works fine now.
Well, I don't have keyboard at grubs bootscreen, but after booting linux,
everything works fine. USB-Keyboard gets recognized and works.
Same is true for external usb-harddisks ...
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Thank you.
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its not what I'm looking for.
For similar purpose I'd like to use i.e. CamBam or the like.
How can I learn to write such things like qpocket.ngc?
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tyle title supported, allowed or tolerated?
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On Sonntag, 19. April 2020, 16:15:07 CEST Robert Ellenberg wrote:
> It's the same process to adjust it up or down. ... No replanning has to
> happen at all for any feed override value.
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Way up means, things work good and could be better.
Way down means: houston - we have a problem.
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ortant realtime value (in my mind).
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pindle is not turning.
Motion and programming is separated completely.
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On Sonntag, 19. April 2020, 09:00:16 CEST Chris Morley wrote:
> Yes I agree but it shows the problem of stepping code when motion is not
> one to one with gcode.
May be I don't get the whole picture, but at the moment, I can't see any
reason for that requirement.
On Sonntag, 19. April 2020, 08:18:55 CEST Chris Morley wrote:
> Take feedrate.
>
> Right now feedrate by it's self does not cause a motion command.
>
> Motion is the only part that syncs with the real world.
>
> So if you single step over a F code only line it's ignored because
> motion won't
from that as well.
Well, best would be, first discuss the desired system design. Code is all
there, it needs to be reorganized/moved.
May be, that's a chance to rewrite ugly/obfuscated code.
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ers job to know sequencing of commands and when they
arrive task-manager, they already should be single commands.
Though multiple commands can share the same source line.
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On Sonntag, 19. April 2020, 07:56:12 CEST Chris Morley wrote:
> Motion does the movement planning so would be the one to know when to stop
> before breaking limits.
Well, if motion does the movement planning, than motion performs taskmanagers
job. Movement planning is not motion.
And if motion
gin and end of that motion.
In singlestep both start and end speed are set to 0 - in automode they
correspond to the neighbor motion and may be on path parameters too.
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, and optimization of motion moves
(recalculation of speeds). What ever logic the cnc-controller is able to
perform, the taskmanager is the one, that should know about it.
Motion should not know about softlimits or endstops or whatever.
Motion just moves from A to b in given path.
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an get translated by a
postprocessor into cnc-language.
At machine, the interpreter is the counterpart to postprocessor - eliminating
the language from motion commands.
Well, theory from wonderland :)
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> On 2020-04-18 8:27 a.m., Reinhard wrote:
> > On Samstag, 18. April 2020, 17:15:48 CEST Robert Ellenberg wrote:
> >> Reinhard, I strongly recommend using G10 for this because the NML
command
> >> doesn't u
Hi Robert,
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> Reinhard, I strongly recommend using G10 for this because the NML command
> doesn't update the offsets in interp. This would cause subsequent motions
> to have the wrong offset values, and get th
Hi Andy,
thank you for your fast response!
On Samstag, 18. April 2020, 16:17:56 CEST andy pugh wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 at 15:12, Reinhard
wrote:
> > what is the preferred way to set fixture offset (coordinate values) from
> > ui?
>
> Looking at the code, none of
Hi,
what is the preferred way to set fixture offset (coordinate values) from ui?
Use nml-message EMC_TRAJ_SET_G5X or assemble a G10 L2 and send it as MDI-
command under the hood?
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On Freitag, 17. April 2020, 00:15:39 CEST Andrew wrote:
> ср, 15 квіт. 2020 о 16:55 Reinhard пише:
> > ... by the way: recently I was testing linuxvariant of PlanetCNC. To me it
> > looks like a fork of lc - and they already solved several problems of lc
> > apparently.
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