Colin,
Thanks for the paper. I have just browsed it. Two small notes.
I like [Turing et al., 2008]. It seems that he has passed his test
successfully.
I find term Natural Computation (NC) a bit confusing. I guess that I
understand what you means but the term Computation sounds ambiguously,
tist, which
includes the need to create a liar). It's all quite convoluted, but
nevertheless sufficient to help an engineer like me make a design
choice... which I have done.
I hope over time these ideas will not grate on the mind quite so
much.
cheers colin
Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
Colin,
On 20.06.2011 21:13 meekerdb said the following:
On 6/20/2011 11:05 AM, selva wrote:
it is proved in noetic science that our thoughts(only thoughts and
not the actions due to those thoughts)affect our physical
environment.
Where are these proofs published?
I was trying to understand what noe
On 26.06.2011 22:33 meekerdb said the following:
On 6/26/2011 12:58 PM, Rex Allen wrote:
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Bruno Marchal
...
The idea that our theories are approaching some metaphysical truth is
essentially just the same as assuming there is some more
comprehensive and coher
On 06.07.2011 05:14 Constantine Pseudonymous said the following:
Bruno assumes that consciousness preceded matter
then why do we only find consciousness as a terrestrial phenomena
(suns and stars aren't conscious).. and as a later stage terrestrial
phenomena for that matter i.e. water, p
On 06.07.2011 21:36 meekerdb said the following:
On 7/6/2011 12:22 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 06.07.2011 05:14 Constantine Pseudonymous said the following:
Bruno assumes that consciousness preceded matter
...
If talk about consciousness, then I guess the next quote from Erwin
k to
John Hagelin, see for example
http://worldpeaceendowment.org/invincibility/invincibility8.html
You may want to compare Schroedinger with him.
Evgenii
http://blog.rudnyi.ru
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:36 PM, meekerdb
wrote:
On 7/6/2011 12:22 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 06.07.2011 05:14 C
On 10.07.2011 17:32 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 10 Jul 2011, at 15:20, Craig Weinberg wrote:
...
Let's take the color yellow for example. If you build a brain out
of ideal ping pong balls, or digital molecular emulations, does it
perceive yellow from 580nm oscillations of electroma
Bruno,
Why don't you make a course for dummies about this? (For example in
Second Life)
Evgenii
On 11.07.2011 16:01 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 11 Jul 2011, at 14:33, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 10.07.2011 17:32 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 10 Jul 2011, at 15:20,
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21128205.200-dvd-alloys-help-make-computers-that-think-like-us.html
"A brain-like computer is one that can learn and adapt without external
programming. Such an ability would allow machines to become far better
at tasks like face and speech recognition. The
On 31.12.2011 09:17 Pierz said the following:
On Dec 31, 6:17 pm, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/30/2011 12:51 AM, Pierz wrote:
On Dec 30, 6:35 pm, meekerdbwrote:
On 12/29/2011 4:11 PM, Pierz wrote: You think it is ludicrous
that a Mars Rover is programmed to monitor the state of its
battery, t
29 Dec 2011, at 18:16, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 29.12.2011 16:48 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 28 Dec 2011, at 21:57, meekerdb wrote:
...
Another question would be if such a car could be considered
as an observer in quantum
I don't know whether it's a Lobian machine or
On 31.12.2011 22:00 meekerdb said the following:
On 12/31/2011 5:49 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 31.12.2011 09:17 Pierz said the following:
On Dec 31, 6:17 pm, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/30/2011 12:51 AM, Pierz wrote:
On Dec 30, 6:35 pm, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/29/2011 4:11 PM, Pierz wrote: You
On 31.12.2011 22:05 meekerdb said the following:
On 12/31/2011 6:07 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
So a self-driving car is probably much more close to have a
first person view than a rock, especially if you make it possible
for the car to memorize its short term instances of computation
(sensing
On 31.12.2011 22:57 meekerdb said the following:
On 12/31/2011 1:33 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 31.12.2011 22:00 meekerdb said the following:
...
Completely!? How do you know that? The Mars Rover doesn't just
record a sensor value in its computer, it also remember the value
and at a
I have a link to somewhat more positive video:
Einstein to teach math and physics in American schools:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkpWCu1k0ZI
Yet, I guess the Einstein's head has not reached the uncanny valley yet.
Evgenii
--
http://blog.rudnyi.ru
On 30.12.2011 13:23 Craig Weinberg said
On 02.01.2012 07:01 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/1/2012 4:59 PM, Pierz wrote:
...
David says it better than I could have, but just to add that when
I say "I" that is just a sort of short-hand for the 1-p
perspective. There is no separate experiencer. In UDA, it's simply
the notes in a 'd
On 02.01.2012 21:32 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/2/2012 12:24 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 02.01.2012 07:01 meekerdb said the following:
...
Everett's MWI is based on QM which does assume a background time
and the state of the multiverse evolves in Hilbert space. This
evolution en
On 03.01.2012 21:42 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/3/2012 12:24 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 02.01.2012 21:32 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/2/2012 12:24 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 02.01.2012 07:01 meekerdb said the following:
...
Everett's MWI is based on QM which does ass
On 04.01.2012 21:03 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/4/2012 10:55 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 03.01.2012 21:42 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/3/2012 12:24 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 02.01.2012 21:32 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/2/2012 12:24 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On
On 05.01.2012 06:29 John Clark said the following:
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Craig
Weinbergwrote:
Sure, our belief in simulations can make them seem quite realistic
to us. That doesn't make them real though.
And so simulators join a long long long list of things that you say
are not re
On 06.01.2012 17:08 John Clark said the following:
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
If to talk about Galileo, then it would also good to remember
Feyerabend
(for example Against method). Feyerabend has studied the way
Galileo has made science a lot and his conclusion:
&quo
ogies that propel society and it
should be treated as such."
Other quotes that I like are at
http://blog.rudnyi.ru/2012/01/feyerabend-against-science.html
Evgenii
On 06.01.2012 18:33 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 06 Jan 2012, at 17:54, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 06.01.2012 17:08
On 06.01.2012 20:13 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/6/2012 8:54 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 06.01.2012 17:08 John Clark said the following:
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
...
This statement contradict to a normal scientific world view but it
is based on historical facts
On 06.01.2012 20:35 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/6/2012 11:26 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 06.01.2012 20:13 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/6/2012 8:54 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 06.01.2012 17:08 John Clark said the following:
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
...
This
On 06.01.2012 21:15 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/6/2012 12:07 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
...
I do not know, I cannot exclude that German authorities have some
censorship in Internet (or Google censors its content to Germany)
but when I run Google scholar
http://scholar.google.com/
and
On 06.01.2012 20:44 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/6/2012 10:14 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
Bruno,
I have recently finished listening Prof Hoenen's Theorien der
Wahrheit where he has also reviewed Feyerabend's Science in a Free
Society. Today I wanted to learn more about that boo
On 06.01.2012 23:11 John Clark said the following:
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Bruno Marchal
wrote:
In fact I do agree often with John Clark, but then he exaggerates
also very often the point.
I've told you a million times I never exaggerate.
The church was asking to Galileo to prese
On 06.01.2012 22:28 John Clark said the following:
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
This does not mean that everybody has to agree with him
[Feyerabend] but a statement about an idiot looks exaggerated.
If one can not use the word "idiot" to refer to someon
ion
and power" only. At least his empirical search has found nothing else.
Could you please give examples of the first alternative that you mention?
Evgenii
On 07.01.2012 12:51 Bruno Marchal said the following:
Hi Evgenii,
On 06 Jan 2012, at 19:14, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
Bruno,
I hav
On 07.01.2012 17:21 John Clark said the following:
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 4:11 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
You are free to express your opinion and I am free to express
mine. Don't
you agree?
Yes, and Feyerabend should be free to say anything that pops into his
head no matter how silly
On 07.01.2012 18:15 John Clark said the following:
Feyerabend Wrote:
"Do not be misled by the fact that today hardly anyone gets killed
for joining a scientific heresy. This has nothing to do with
science. It has something to do with the general quality of our
civilization. Heretics in science a
On 13.01.2012 19:20 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/13/2012 8:30 AM, John Clark wrote:
We can even ascribe it [consciousness] a role (explaining its
Darwinian advantage)
There is no way consciousness can have a direct Darwinian advantage
so it must be a byproduct of something that does ha
On 13.01.2012 22:39 Craig Weinberg said the following:
On Jan 13, 3:54 pm, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 13.01.2012 19:20 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/13/2012 8:30 AM, John Clark wrote:
We can even ascribe it [consciousness] a role (explaining
its
Darwinian advantage)
There is
On 13.01.2012 22:36 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/13/2012 12:54 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 13.01.2012 19:20 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/13/2012 8:30 AM, John Clark wrote:
We can even ascribe it [consciousness] a role (explaining
its
Darwinian advantage)
There is no way
On 14.01.2012 03:06 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/13/2012 2:50 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 13.01.2012 22:36 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/13/2012 12:54 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
...
By the way in the Gray's book the term intelligence is not even
in the index. This was the bi
On 14.01.2012 17:56 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/14/2012 12:08 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 14.01.2012 03:06 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/13/2012 2:50 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 13.01.2012 22:36 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/13/2012 12:54 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
...
By
On 14.01.2012 18:12 John Clark said the following:
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 meekerdb wrote:
There is no way consciousness can have a direct Darwinian
advantage
so it must be a byproduct of something that does have that virtue,
and the obvious candidate is intelligence.\
That's not so clear si
On 14.01.2012 19:56 Stephen P. King said the following:
On 1/14/2012 1:15 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 14.01.2012 18:12 John Clark said the following:
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 meekerdb wrote:
There is no way consciousness can have a direct Darwinian
advantage
so it must be a byproduct of
On 14.01.2012 08:21 John Clark said the following:
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 Craig Weinberg wrote:
…
> For heavens sake, I went into quite a lot of detail about how the
> code is executed so that protein gets made, and it could not be more
> clear that the cell factory contains digital machines.
On 18.01.2012 18:47 John Clark said the following:
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
" Some physicists say that information is related to the entropy"
That is incorrect, ALL physicists say that information is related to
entropy. There are quite a number of d
red by order, a maximum of order is
conveyed by a maximum of disorder. Obviously, this is a Babylonian
muddle. Somebody or something has confounded our language."
--
http://blog.rudnyi.ru
On 18.01.2012 23:42 Russell Standish said the following:
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 08:13:07PM +0100, Ev
On 19.01.2012 06:37 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/18/2012 11:13 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
...
If you look around you may still find species of scientists who
still are working with classical thermodynamics (search for example
for CALPHAD). Well, if you refer to them as physicists or not
On 19.01.2012 20:41 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/19/2012 11:06 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 19.01.2012 06:37 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/18/2012 11:13 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
...
If you look around you may still find species of scientists
who still are working with classical
On 20.01.2012 02:34 Jason Resch said the following:
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Craig
Weinbergwrote:
On Jan 19, 4:56 am, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Yes. Craig argue that machine cannot thinks by pointing on its
fridge.
Are you afraid to burn coal in your stove out of concern that
the mate
On 20.01.2012 18:21 John Clark said the following:
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 Craig Weinberg wrote:
...
"If you define the universe as deterministic from the beginning, then
[...]"
I most certainly do not! We know the universe is NOT deterministic
but we also know that everything, absolutel
On 20.01.2012 21:28 John Clark said the following:
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
" What about Big Bang?"
What about Big Bang?
" It has also happened for a reason?"
I have no idea, but I do know it happened for a reason or it did not
happen for a r
On 21.01.2012 08:12 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/20/2012 12:47 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 20.01.2012 21:28 John Clark said the following:
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
" What about Big Bang?"
What about Big Bang?
" It has also happened for a reason?
On 21.01.2012 10:00 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/21/2012 12:43 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 21.01.2012 08:12 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/20/2012 12:47 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 20.01.2012 21:28 John Clark said the following:
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
"
On 20.01.2012 05:59 Russell Standish said the following:
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 08:03:41PM +0100, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
...
Basically I do not understand what the term information then
brings. One can certainly state that information is the same as the
entropy (we are free with definitions
On 21.01.2012 20:00 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/21/2012 4:25 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
...
2) If physicists say that information is the entropy, they must
take it literally and then apply experimental thermodynamics to
measure information. This however seems not to happen.
It does
On 21.01.2012 21:01 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/21/2012 11:23 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 21.01.2012 20:00 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/21/2012 4:25 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
...
2) If physicists say that information is the entropy, they
must take it literally and then apply
On 21.01.2012 20:54 John Clark said the following:
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
" It [the Big Bang] has also happened for a reason?"
" I have no idea, but I do know it happened for a reason or it
did not
happen for a reason."
"Well,
On 21.01.2012 22:03 Evgenii Rudnyi said the following:
On 21.01.2012 21:01 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/21/2012 11:23 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 21.01.2012 20:00 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/21/2012 4:25 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
...
2) If physicists say that information is
t; is equivalent with a type of "no zombie" principle.
>
On 16.01.2012 11:20 Bruno Marchal said the following:
>
> On 15 Jan 2012, at 09:13, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
>>
>> What about the Turing test for a person in that state to check if
>> he still has consci
7;s book is not a scientific book in the strict sense. He discusses
rather what our society should look like in the future. He claims that
open code/open culture leads to cybernetic totalism and fights against it.
Evgenii
On 22.01.2012 18:06 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 22 Jan 2012, at 14:1
On 22.01.2012 18:39 John Clark said the following:
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote
" Yes, but there is nothing illogical about infinite progressions;
or
maybe the Big Bang happened for no reason, nothing illogical
about that either."
" This would contr
On 20.01.2012 05:59 Russell Standish said the following:
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 08:03:41PM +0100, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
...
and since information is measured by order, a maximum of order is
conveyed by a maximum of disorder. Obviously, this is a Babylonian
muddle. Somebody or something has
On 22.01.2012 19:52 John Clark said the following:
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
"I would say though that "something does not happen for a reason"
and
"something happens for no reason" are two completely different
statements. Don't you ag
On 23.01.2012 01:26 Russell Standish said the following:
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 07:16:23PM +0100, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 20.01.2012 05:59 Russell Standish said the following:
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 08:03:41PM +0100, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
...
and since information is measured by order
On 24.01.2012 13:49 Craig Weinberg said the following:
If you are instead saying that they are inversely proportional then
I would agree in general - information can be considered negentropy.
Sorry, I thought you were saying that they are directly proportional
measures (Brent and Evgenii seem to
On 24.01.2012 22:56 meekerdb said the following:
In thinking about how to answer this I came across an excellent paper
by Roman Frigg and Charlotte Werndl
http://www.romanfrigg.org/writings/EntropyGuide.pdf which explicates
the relation more comprehensively than I could and which also gives
som
On 25.01.2012 21:25 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/25/2012 11:47 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
...
Let me suggest a very simple case to understand better what you are
saying. Let us consider a string "10" for simplicity. Let us
consider the next cases. I will cite first the the
On 26.01.2012 12:00 Russell Standish said the following:
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 08:47:03PM +0100, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
Let me suggest a very simple case to understand better what you
are saying. Let us consider a string "10" for simplicity. Let us
consider the next cases. I will
On 26.01.2012 19:01 John Clark said the following:
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Craig
Weinbergwrote:
...
If I have red legos and white legos, and I build two opposite
monochrome
houses and one of mixed blocks, how in the world does that effect
the entropy of the plastic bricks in any way
On 27.01.2012 05:11 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/26/2012 5:03 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
...
I'm just curious, not trying to argue with you about it. On a
similar note, I was wondering about heat loss in a vacuum today.
With the second law of thermodynamics, it seems like heat could
only
On 27.01.2012 21:22 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/27/2012 11:21 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 25.01.2012 21:25 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/25/2012 11:47 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
...
Let me suggest a very simple case to understand better what you
are saying. Let us consider a string
On 27.01.2012 23:03 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/27/2012 12:43 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 27.01.2012 21:22 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/27/2012 11:21 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 25.01.2012 21:25 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/25/2012 11:47 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
...
Let
On 27.01.2012 23:46 Russell Standish said the following:
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 08:27:31PM +0100, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 26.01.2012 12:00 Russell Standish said the following:
If you included these two bits, the thermodynamic entropy is two
bits less, = 4.15 x 10^{-24} J/K less
This is so
On 28.01.2012 00:24 Craig Weinberg said the following:
On Jan 27, 1:31 pm, John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Craig
Weinbergwrote:
With the second law of thermodynamics, it seems like heat could
only dissipate by heating something else up.
The second law says that energy wil
On 28.01.2012 11:20 Russell Standish said the following:
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 08:58:54AM +0100, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 27.01.2012 23:46 Russell Standish said the following:
For one thing, it indicates to storing just two bits of
information on these physical substrates is grossly
On 26.01.2012 07:19 Pierz said the following:
As I continue to ponder the UDA, I keep coming back to a niggling
doubt that an arithmetical ontology can ever really give a
satisfactory explanation of qualia. It seems to me that imputing
qualia to calculations (indeed consciousness at all, thought
On 28.01.2012 23:26 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/27/2012 11:47 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
...
You disagree that engineers do not use thermodynamic entropy
Yes. I disagreed that information "has nothing to do with
thermodynamic entropy", as you wrote above. You keep
On 29.01.2012 00:42 Russell Standish said the following:
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 12:05:57PM +0100, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
...
In general we are surrounded devices that store information (hard
discs, memory sticks, DVD, etc.). The information that these
devices can store, I believe, is known
On 29.01.2012 00:15 Pierz said the following:
On Jan 28, 11:04 pm, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 26.01.2012 07:19 Pierz said the following:
As I continue to ponder the UDA, I keep coming back to a
niggling doubt that an arithmetical ontology can ever really give
a satisfactory explanation of
On 29.01.2012 00:57 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/28/2012 3:15 PM, Pierz wrote:
On Jan 28, 11:04 pm, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
...
Let my quote Jeffrey Gray (Consciousness: Creeping up on the
Hard Problem, p. 33) on biology and physics.
"In very general terms, biology makes use o
On 29.01.2012 22:49 Russell Standish said the following:
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 04:23:12PM +0100, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 28.01.2012 23:26 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/27/2012 11:47 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
A good suggestion. It well might be that I express my thoughts
unclear, sorry
On 29.01.2012 23:00 Russell Standish said the following:
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 04:30:38PM +0100, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
The problem that I see is that the entropy changes when the
temperature changes. Or do you claim that the entropy of the
memory stick/DVD/hard disc remains the same when its
On 29.01.2012 23:06 Russell Standish said the following:
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 09:41:27PM -0800, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/28/2012 3:42 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
On the other hand, if you just gave me the metallic platter from
the hard disk, and did not restrict in any way the technology
used to
On 29.01.2012 23:47 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/29/2012 9:02 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 29.01.2012 00:57 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/28/2012 3:15 PM, Pierz wrote:
On Jan 28, 11:04 pm, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
...
Let my quote Jeffrey Gray (Consciousness: Creeping up on the
On 02.02.2012 19:12 John Clark said the following:
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
Could you please give me an example of a physical property that is
context dependent?
Off the top of my head, mass, velocity, duration and length.
John K Clark
Could you please
our context, try to explain by the portion we know of
- as if it was the totality - and live in our happy conventional
scientific terms. Human ingenuity constructed a miraculous science
and technology that is ALMOST good (some mistakes notwithstanding
occurring), then comes M. Curie, Watson-Crick,
On 01.02.2012 21:51 Stephen P. King said the following:
On 2/1/2012 3:10 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 29.01.2012 22:49 Russell Standish said the following:
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 04:23:12PM +0100, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 28.01.2012 23:26 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/27/2012 11:47 PM
On 02.02.2012 20:00 meekerdb said the following:
On 2/2/2012 10:35 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
Yes, but when we speak about information carrier (book, a hard
drive, DVD, flash memory) it is exactly the same. And it has
nothing to do with the total number of physical states in the
device, as this
On 03.02.2012 00:14 Jason Resch said the following:
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 3:04 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
On 21.01.2012 22:03 Evgenii Rudnyi said the following:
On 21.01.2012 21:01 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/21/2012 11:23 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 21.01.2012 20:00 meekerdb
On 02.02.2012 22:18 Russell Standish said the following:
On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 07:45:53PM +0100, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 01.02.2012 21:51 Stephen P. King said the following:
On 2/1/2012 3:10 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
First the thermodynamic entropy is not context depended. This
must mean
On 02.02.2012 22:35 Russell Standish said the following:
On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 09:17:41PM +0100, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 29.01.2012 23:06 Russell Standish said the following:
Absolutely! But at zero kelvin, the information storage capacity
of the device is precisely zero, so cooling only
On 02.02.2012 21:49 meekerdb said the following:
On 2/2/2012 12:38 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Jan 30, 6:54 pm, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/30/2012 3:14 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Jan 30, 6:08 pm, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/30/2012 2:52 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: So kind of you to
inform us of your uns
On 03.02.2012 22:07 meekerdb said the following:
On 2/3/2012 12:23 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 02.02.2012 21:49 meekerdb said the following:
On 2/2/2012 12:38 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Jan 30, 6:54 pm, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/30/2012 3:14 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Jan 30, 6:08 pm
On 04.02.2012 01:10 meekerdb said the following:
On 2/3/2012 1:50 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 03.02.2012 22:07 meekerdb said the following:
On 2/3/2012 12:23 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 02.02.2012 21:49 meekerdb said the following:
On 2/2/2012 12:38 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Jan 30, 6
lowing:
On 03 Feb 2012, at 21:23, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 02.02.2012 21:49 meekerdb said the following:
On 2/2/2012 12:38 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Jan 30, 6:54 pm, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/30/2012 3:14 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Jan 30, 6:08 pm, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/30/2012 2:52 PM, Craig
On 04.02.2012 21:05 meekerdb said the following:
> On 2/4/2012 9:09 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
...
>> As for computers having emotions, I am a practitioner and I am
>> working right now closely with engineers. I should say that the
>> modern market would love electronic
nt to
get/keep/increase the market share. Hence if you do not consider
emotions at all, you do not get paid.
Evgenii
On 04.02.2012 22:42 Bruno Marchal said the following:
Hi Evgenyi,
On 04 Feb 2012, at 18:09, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
Also, if your theory is that we (in the 3-sense) are
On 24.01.2012 22:56 meekerdb said the following:
In thinking about how to answer this I came across an excellent paper
by Roman Frigg and Charlotte Werndl
http://www.romanfrigg.org/writings/EntropyGuide.pdf which explicates
the relation more comprehensively than I could and which also gives
som
On 05.02.2012 17:16 Evgenii Rudnyi said the following:
On 24.01.2012 22:56 meekerdb said the following:
In thinking about how to answer this I came across an excellent
paper by Roman Frigg and Charlotte Werndl
http://www.romanfrigg.org/writings/EntropyGuide.pdf which
explicates the relation
On 05.02.2012 22:33 Russell Standish said the following:
On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 07:28:47PM +0100, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
The most funny it looks in the conclusion
p. 28(142) "First, all notions of entropy discussed in this essay,
except the thermodynamic and the topological entropy, c
On 05.02.2012 22:46 Russell Standish said the following:
On Fri, Feb 03, 2012 at 08:56:10PM +0100, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
First, we have not to forget the Third Law that states that the
change in entropy in any reaction, as well its derivatives, goes
to zero as the temperatures goes to zero
On 05.02.2012 23:05 Russell Standish said the following:
On Fri, Feb 03, 2012 at 08:50:40PM +0100, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
I guess that you have never done a lab in experimental
thermodynamics. There are classical experiment where people
measure heat of combustion, heat capacity, equilibrium
. If you need
help, please just let me know.
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On Feb 5, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
On 05.02.2012 17:16 Evgenii Rudnyi said the following:
On 24.01.2012 22:56 meekerdb said the following:
In thinking about how to answer this I came across an
excellent paper by
On 06.02.2012 20:42 meekerdb said the following:
On 2/6/2012 9:03 AM, 1Z wrote:
There is also a "conservation" of information. It is
apparently industrictable.
Is there? if there is , it is a phsycial law, and AFAIK it is
hotly debated.
It's the same as the question of wave-function collaps
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