Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, if I apologize, what's included is an intention to avoid doing the hurtful behavior in the future. Heck we all do awful stuff sometimes. I think it's a valid part of relating to others that we acknowledge our part in their upset and then soldier on. Yes, the operative word here is IF. Trouble is these days a lot of people think that because they are offended by something it automatically follows that someone has done something wrong and should apologise. It seems like simply being offended gives them the right to control other's opinions. Beats me. Worse, in this Age of New Age Narcissism, they feel that they have the right to inflict *their* opinions on others. In the most recent case here on Fairfield Life, my choice of words pushed the buttons of a few cultists so badly that they began to imagine things about me that aren't true. This is nothing new, but then -- probably because they're so USED to taking their own fantasies seriously and treating them as Truth Incarnate -- they started to act those fantasies out on this forum and accuse me of things. The things that they have brainwashed themselves to believe about me aren't true, but they are volatile enough that if I had allowed them to go unresponded-to, the resulting libel and defamation could potentially have a negative impact on my family. Fortunately for me (and unfortunately for the two people who have chosen to defame me), one of our close family friends here in the Netherlands IS a cop, and furthermore one who works in the anti-cyberterrorism group. We know him from a local Meetup discussion group, of which we've all been members for some time. So yesterday I explained the situation to him and, to my surprise, his first question to me was, By any chance, are these people who are trying to insinuate that you are a child molestor members of a religious cult? Somewhat taken aback, I said Yes, and then he explained that the reason he asked is that this (using the Internet to attempt to brand someone as a sex criminal, especially in regard to children) was a favorite tactic used by cults they are tracking in the Netherlands (especially $cientology, but also some extreme Christian cults). He advised me to take this action by Nabby and Jim Flanegin more seriously, and walked me through the steps of doing so. Here in the Netherlands, it's a two-step process. First I notify the proper division of the police about the cyberstalking, giving them the email addresses of the stalkers and forwarding to them examples of all defamatory posts or emails they have sent. This officially puts them on a Watch List, and causes Interpol and other agencies to flag any traffic coming from these addresses for further scrutiny. This has been done. If they wise up and drop this stupidity, I will never need to take it to step two, which is the filing of actual criminal charges. Note that the words criminal charges are exact in this situation -- my friend made it very clear that here in the Netherlands what they are doing is not a mere civil offense but a crime. But the saddest part from my point of view is that neither of these guys is going to ever feel as if they did anything wrong. THEY were the ones taking the two words I posted *referring to their spiritual teacher* and turning them in their heads into some kind of psychological diagnosis of me. THEY were the ones committing defamation and libel -- as pointed out earlier, I never once suggested that Maharishi or anyone else *really* was into fucking babies. THEY made that up, and about me. My friend the cop -- having seen my original post and their followups -- tells me that if either of them persists in this folly, my case against them will be a slam-dunk and he could put them in prison. But isn't it amazing that they felt that they had the *right* to do this in the first place? As Salyavin and others have pointed out (and my friend the cop suggested as well), this syndrome of professional outrage they wear like a badge of honor is quite possibly a form of mental illness. Their outrage does NOT give them the right to act out the fantasies my words inspire in them and harm others. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 12:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... If I was the moderator of this group I'd put him on probation with a very strong warning and demand an apology to the entire group and until he does I'd limit his participation. I don't know who wrote the above but it's a familiar part of modern life that makes me scratch my head. Seems like every day some celebrity/sports star/politician says some generally inconsequential thing and immediately faces endless calls to apologise from the massed ranks of the professionally offended. Usually via
Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
Salyavin,
I do not think I have heard before the phrase 'professionally offended', what a
wonderful concept. I know people like this, where every other sentence is a
complaint about this or that in their lives, almost invariably what someone
else said or did. I tend to distinguish between real physical pain caused by
what people do, and mental pain caused by a person's conditioning. One can have
both compassion and empathy for the former, and up to a point compassion for
the latter, but self-inflicted mental pain gets no empathy from me;
Well said. That's it exactly.
I have had enough of my own in that department, and it was all on me, not
someone else; it's something a person can do something about to correct unless
they are totally incapable of listening and evaluating what other people say,
in which case they are logically a lost cause, and one must let them remain in
hell.
As for Share's comment, if you do something that is wilfully malicious directed
at a person, apologies are in order if the other person has a real innocence
about them, which is usually not the case here on FFL where at least somewhere
in our lives we have been well seasoned ass-holes ourselves, and the case that
came up today was certainly in the latter category. If a person is 50 years old
and still a professional complainer, then they sure as hell have not been
living on Earth all this time, but living in some isolated mental fantasy world.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Salyavin, if I apologize, what's included is an intention to avoid doing the
hurtful behavior in the future. Heck we all do awful stuff sometimes. I think
it's a valid part of relating to others that we acknowledge our part in their
upset and then soldier on.
Yes, the operative word here is IF. Trouble is these days a lot of people think
that because they are offended by something it automatically follows that
someone has done something wrong and should apologise. It seems like simply
being offended gives them the right to control other's opinions. Beats me.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 12:40 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
If I was the moderator of this group I'd put him on probation with a very
strong warning and demand an apology to the entire group and until he does I'd
limit his participation.
I don't know who wrote the above but it's a familiar part of modern life that
makes me scratch my head.
Seems like every day some celebrity/sports star/politician says some generally
inconsequential thing and immediately faces endless calls to apologise from the
massed ranks of the professionally offended. Usually via Twitter.
I don't know why they bother, because what good is an insincere apology? But
it's not really about that, what it's about is control and humiliation.
Everyone who complains knows that the apology is worth nothing and that people
don't really see the error of their ways and swiftly adopt the morals of the
herd, but if they can get someone to say what they want them to say it makes
them happy because their will has been bent and it acts as a warning to others.
Conform or we'll nag you endlessly. Is this the Internet as the great leveller,
or a growing inability of people to accept that not everyone sees the world the
same way they do?
I knew this girl who was a right arrogant bitch, whenever I complained about
her behaviour she'd just say I'm sorry you're offended by what I said which
is marvellous because it put all the blame on me for her attitude problem. And
she never understood why that drove me crazy, no empathy you see. I wonder what
that's like? But all I know is she wouldn't even think to wonder.
But if I ever annoy the world and the Twitteratti come banging on my cyber door
for an apology that's what I'd say and see if any of the dumb fucks notice
they've just been insulted further.
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[FairfieldLife] TV series review: Manhattan
Between July and October a new series was aired on the WGN network in America (whatever that is) that I started watching when I first heard about it but then got busy and put it aside. Well, recently I finally had time to go back and binge-watch it, and have come away so impressed that I felt I had to review it here. The title of the series -- Manhattan -- refers not to the island or the city or the Woody Allen movie, but to one of the most monumental science projects ever. In 1943, with WWII still raging, 200+ of America's best physicists and engineers were uprooted from their normal homes and moved out into the gawdawful barrenness of the New Mexico high desert, near Los Alamos. There, in a camp that resembled a prison camp more than a modern science lab, they set about trying to invent the atomic bomb. Some of you might react to this as the basis for a TV series with Ho hum. We all know, after all, that they *succeeded* in inventing that bomb. So on one level there is as little anticipatory drama available to hang plots on as there is with the sinking of the Titanic. Still, in the world of cinema and TV, it's HOW you tell the story that makes a film like A Night To Remember a forgettable potboiler and James Cameron's Titanic one of the biggest blockbusters in history. Manhattan is never going to be a blockbuster, partly because it's too smart for most American audiences. I was interested in the story because my grandfather actually worked on this project -- not in New Mexico but back in Princeton with Einstein. But I'd heard through him and others some of the stories of what life was like for those who *did* design the bomb there, so I was interested in seeing it. What I didn't expect was for WGN (again, whoever they are) to do such a good job of telling the stories. These are some of the smartest people on Earth, penned up in (basically) a prison camp and spied on by their own military 24/7. John Benjamin Hickey does a *tremendous* job of portraying the leader of the implosion group (competing for money and resources against the gun-type group), and Olivia Williams (from Dollhouse) does as great a job of portraying his long-suffering wife. Ashley Zukerman is equally great as the young, brilliant scientist torn between the two groups and trying to deal with his new wife (Rachel Brosnahan) while unable to even tell her what he's working on. The series is best when it focuses on the pressures these scientists were under, and the toll that pressure took on them physically and mentally. On one level, they were racing against the Germans, who were trying to invent their own bomb, so there was pressure on that level -- several thousand U.S. soldiers died on battlefields every day they didn't come up with a solution. But on a more important, everyday level, the real pressure came from being spied upon by American agents at every moment. That part of the story has never really been told before, and Manhattan the series tells it well. HIGHLY recommended for Salyavin and others who love science, as soon as it comes out on DVD or is released on Netflix or whatever. And for others who enjoy great, character-driven drama, I think you'd like it, too. MANHATTAN - New Series | TRAILER | HD | | | | | | | | | | | MANHATTAN - New Series | TRAILER | HD | | | | View on www.youtube.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | |
[FairfieldLife] Perfect!
This is funnier if you get that the flags are a reference to the famous illusion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit%E2%80%93duck_illusion
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies...
emptyb, hope you all had a good Thanksgiving. I miss the richness of all the
FFL voices that have gone silent. And I feel sad that people couldn't work out
their differences. Where was Yamataka when needed?! (-:
From: emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 5:28 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies...
Share,
Why feel sad at the departure of a TMO shill and a gawking parrot?
I say celebrate and give a Thanksgiving Day hurrah!
Free at last - Free at last!
Thank Yamântaka.
We're free at last.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
salyavin, I guess apologies can have different contexts. For me they are about
healing. But I can see how they could be seen as part of a power struggle. And
the thing is, even though we don't cause the emotions of others, we do
contribute to them. Good distinction to make if we want to relate to people in
an ongoing way.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Salyavin, if I apologize, what's included is an intention to avoid doing the
hurtful behavior in the future. Heck we all do awful stuff sometimes. I think
it's a valid part of relating to others that we acknowledge our part in their
upset and then soldier on.
Yes, the operative word here is IF. Trouble is these days a lot of people think
that because they are offended by something it automatically follows that
someone has done something wrong and should apologise. It seems like simply
being offended gives them the right to control other's opinions. Beats me.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 12:40 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
If I was the moderator of this group I'd put him on probation with a very
strong warning and demand an apology to the entire group and until he does I'd
limit his participation.
I don't know who wrote the above but it's a familiar part of modern life that
makes me scratch my head.
Seems like every day some celebrity/sports star/politician says some generally
inconsequential thing and immediately faces endless calls to apologise from the
massed ranks of the professionally offended. Usually via Twitter.
I don't know why they bother, because what good is an insincere apology? But
it's not really about that, what it's about is control and humiliation.
Everyone who complains knows that the apology is worth nothing and that people
don't really see the error of their ways and swiftly adopt the morals of the
herd, but if they can get someone to say what they want them to say it makes
them happy because their will has been bent and it acts as a warning to others.
Conform or we'll nag you endlessly. Is this the Internet as the great leveller,
or a growing inability of people to accept that not everyone sees the world the
same way they do?
I knew this girl who was a right arrogant bitch, whenever I complained about
her behaviour she'd just say I'm sorry you're offended by what I said which
is marvellous because it put all the blame on me for her attitude problem. And
she never understood why that drove me crazy, no empathy you see. I wonder what
that's like? But all I know is she wouldn't even think to wonder.
But if I ever annoy the world and the Twitteratti come banging on my cyber door
for an apology that's what I'd say and see if any of the dumb fucks notice
they've just been insulted further.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] It's the cult thinking, stupid! (For Rick)
Dear Yahoo-Groups Police; It seems that some guy who is trying to perpetuate this thread evidently is an infamous needling troll of defamation with a long known history of posts pandering on this your groups forum as for the nature of his pruriently shocking butt-on-pushing rants such as he started in to this thread with. This over the top defamation it seems quite possibly is another setup 'to get' this group closed on grounds of content. The FairfieldLife community on Yahoo-groups seems helpless against an unkind libel-istic defaming nature of such trolling. This group very possibly is the most violent defaming Yahoo-group community remaining in all of the Yahoo-Groups forums that you host for all the forwardness of these really mean unkind sophisticated ad hominem that gets thrown down here. I feel we could use your help and stewardship if that is what it will take to keep this site safe and open for the majority which silently lurks here waiting for these really unkind salacious taunts that get posted here on your page to pass by. Sincerely, -Buck on FFL at Yahoo-groups Dear Yahoo-groups Guideline Police; Most of us get along really fine on this yahoo group of yours. Thanks very much for making this forum open for us. It has well served a community since its inception. FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups has played a very important role for this larger community. I hope you can see to keep it open longer. Sincerely, -Buck in Fairfield, Iowa awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 5:34 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] It's the cult thinking, stupid! I hope I've made my point to lurkers and those with somewhat open minds. All I had to do was use a little colorful language to describe Maharishi, and the four extreme cultists on this forum went fucking crazy attacking me. I suggest that what Richard Williams, Jim Flanegin, Ann, and Steve have done in response to that is some of the purest CULT BEHAVIOR I've ever seen. It follows a pattern I've been trying to document on this forum since I arrived on it, a tendency to react to anyone who criticizes, makes fun of, or (worst) shows zero respect for the person they're guru-whipped by with anger, hatred, and a dedicated attempt to get them. Richard has demonstrated a willingness to lie to do this, signing my name to things I didn't write. Jim has demonstrated a willingness to stalk me on the Internet to find photos that he can then crop and caption to make them look more sinister, and Ann and Steve have demonstrated that they'll pounce on any subject (in this most recent case, polyamory) that allows them to get Barry. Did I provoke these people by intentionally pushing their buttons? You betcha. I wanted to put their reactivity -- and the nature of it -- on display. I think I succeeded. These four people, more than anything else, demonstrate why I consider TM a cult, and FFL a cult forum. These people were all TRAINED to act like this. You may not like my tactics -- or me -- very much, but please watch these four in the future. They will probably continue to attack me, but watch how they treat *others* who dare to criticize Maharishi or TMers. They'll use the same tactics. If I've helped even a few people to see this, then I've succeeded. This one is for Rick, if he has been compelled to look into this latest tempest in a pisspot... As I pointed out above, and earlier, this is about CULT TACTICS, not inappropriate language. If you'll read through some of the posts pretending to be outraged by what I said (which I have, because I've been gathering them for a researcher who requested them), you'll notice that all of the people claiming to be outraged by the theoretical metaphor I posted have been carefully snipping out the part that *really* offended them and got their panties in a twist -- that it was theoretically ABOUT MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI. Did I go over the top in my analogy by suggesting that TM True Believers were so brainwashed that they'd react to seeing MAHARISHI having sex with a child right in front of their eyes by continuing to believe that he was a life celibate? YOU BETCHA. I went over the top *on purpose*, to demonstrate what happens when a bunch of the same True Believer cultists I was referring to get their Oh My God He Insulted Our Guru buttons pushed. Please note that I never claimed Maharishi *DID* have sex with small children. I think we all know that isn't true -- he preferred women in their 20s or 30s, from what we hear, preferably married to someone else. The True Believers I'm referring to have had No Problem ignoring reports of this, and continuing to claim that Maharishi
Re: [FairfieldLife] Buddha was every inch a Hindu
Richard, just in case Rick closes FFL given recent events, and if you join
another group, please let me know about that group. I'd like to join too.
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Buddha was every inch a Hindu
On 11/28/2014 8:07 PM, sri...@ymail.com wrote:
Buddha was every inch a Hindu - Koenraad Elst
According to Professor Flood, there were no Hindus in the historical
Buddha's time. The actual term Hindu first occurs as a Persian geographical
term for the people who lived beyond the river Indus. The term Hindu then was
a geographical term and did not refer to a religion.
Work cited:
Flood, Gavin (Editor) (2003). The Blackwell Companion to Hinduism. Malden, MA:
Blackwell Publishing Ltd. p.6.
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[FairfieldLife] Well, samskaras and vasanas?
What could be the main difference between samskara's (more accurately:
saMskaara)
and vasana's (vaasanaa)?
saMskAra m. (ifc. f. %{A}) putting together , forming well , making perfect ,
accomplishment , embellishment adornment , purification , cleansing , making
ready , preparation , dressing (of food) , refining (of metals) , polishing (of
gems) , rearing (of animals or plants) Gr2S3rS. MBh. Ka1v. , c. ; cleansing
the body , toilet , attire Hariv. ; forming the mind , training , education R.
Ragh. ; correction (also in an astronomical sense Su1ryas.) , correct formation
or use of a word Nir. Sarvad. ; correctness , purity (esp. of pronunciation or
expression) MBh. R. c. ; making sacred , hallowing , consecration Mn. MBh. c.
; a sacred or sanctifying ceremony , one which purifies from the taint of sin
contracted in the , womb and leading to regeneration (12 such ceremonies are
enjoined on the first three or twice-born classes in Mn. ii , 27 , viz. 1.
%{garbhA7dhAna} , 2. %{puM-savana} , 3. %{sImanto7nnayana} , 4. %{jAta-karman}
, 5. %{nAmakarman} , 6. %{niSkramaNa} , 7. %{anna-prA7zana} , 8. %{cUDA-karman}
, 9. %{upanayana} , 10. %{kezA7nta} , 11. %{samAvartana} , 12. %{vivAha} , qq.
vv. ; accord. to Gaut. viii , 8 c. there are 40 Sam2ska1ras) Gr2S. Mn. MBh.
c. (IW.188 ; 192 c. RTL. 353) [1120,3] ; the ceremony performed on a dead
body (i.e. cremation) R. ; any purificatory ceremony W. ; the faculty of memory
, mental impression or recollection , impression on the mind of acts done in a
former state of existence (one of the 24 qualities of the Vais3eshikas ,
including %{bhAvanA} , the faculty of reproductive imagination ') Kan2.
Sarvad. (IW. 69) ; (pl. , with Buddhists) a mental conformation or creation of
the mind (such as that of the external world , regarded by it as real , though
actually non-existent , and forming the second link in the twelvefold chain of
causation or the fourth of the 5 Skandhas) Dharmas. 22 ; 42 ; a polishing stone
MW.
vAsanA f. the impression of anything remaining unconsciously in the mind , the
present consciousness of past perceptions , knowledge derived from memory
S3am2k. Ka1v. Katha1s. ; fancy , imagination , idea , notion , false notion ,
mistake (ifc. , e.g. %{bheda-v-} , the mistake that there is a difference) ib.
Ra1jat. Sarvad. c. ; thinking of , longing for , expectation , desire ,
inclination Katha1s. ; liking , respectful regard Bha1m. ; trust , confidence
W. ; (in math.) proof , demonstration (= %{upapatti}) Gol. ; a kind of metre
Col. ; N. of Durga1 BhP. ; of the wife of Arka ib. ; of a Comm. on the
Siddha7nta-s3iroman2i.
[FairfieldLife] Barry's Cognitive Dissonance
/HIS BODY TURNED GOLD . . . . . . he began to shrink, then grow to tremendous heights. He raised his arms and a shower of energy rushed down onto us while lines of power pushed up through my spine. His body turned gold, then it turned into a doorway. It became an absence. I felt myself drawn into it and through it into other realities. I felt myself spinning, floating, turning in various directions, then expanding and contracting. - /Uncle Tantra http://www.ramalila.net/LetDrLenzsStudentsBooksTeach/Interview_The_Last_Incarnation.htm http://www.ramalila.net/LetDrLenzsStudentsBooksTeach/Interview_The%20Last%20Incarnation.htm On 11/26/2014 3:35 PM, TurquoiseBee wrote: */H. Seems Willytex is lying again. I didn't have anything to do with writing the thing he signed my pen name to. That's not my website, I've never had anything to do with creating it other than allowing them to put my book up on it when they asked if they could, and I didn't write that passage. /* // It sure does sound like Barry has a clear case of cognitive dissonance - and a memory problem as well. It may be that Barry is also in denial mode. Go figure. /I studied with a guy who could turn huge rooms// //in convention centers gold, to the point where// //even the security guards saw it, but that never// //made me think he was enlightened, only that he// //could do cool things with light./ From: Uncle Tantra Subject: Re: Two simple questions for the bhakti supporters Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: 2003-03-16 13:29:48 PST */ /* */Willytex actually knows all of this, because he's tried to run this routine before in the past and been busted on it. /* *//* */Sure is interesting to see what cultists do when someone pushes their buttons though, isn't it?/* /* *You're sitting in the desert and some guy comes up and stands in front of you, no more than two feet away, and then he just disappears. You can see stars through the hazy outline of his body, and then even the outline disappears. You don't really believe it's happening, so you lean your head back and forth and shift positions to see if the foreground and background you can see through him or where he was standing shift perspective as they should. They do. Then he comes back, smiles big-time, and walks off. From: Uncle Tantra Subject: Re: Two simple questions for the bhakti supporters Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: 2003-07-24 13:29:48 PST **/ */Now do you see why I used the language I did? It makes the roaches crawl out of the baseboards and into the light, where everyone can see them./* /Other experiences I would place in this// //category would be firsthand witnessing of// //the siddhis. Things like invisibility, true// //levitation (sitting or walking on air for long// //periods of time), etc. I worked with a guy// //who did that stuff. Big whoop. I knew then// //and I know now that the ability to do these// //things has nothing whatsoever to do with// //whether one is enlightened or not. But// //witnessing these phenomena is a real hoot,// //and much, much more./ From: Uncle Tantra Subject: Re: Meditation that is Transcendental Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: 2003-07-24 13:29:48 PST /* */
Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
I think your comments have had the intended effect. Nabby deleted his most recent message (although it remains in the Archives in all its glory). Now that he has done that, I am curious what sort of rejoinder he will or will not post. His best option, remaining on the forum, would be to divert to other subjects, as you suggested. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Nablus, I suggest that you drop this, because YOUR name, email address, and posting history here on the Fairfield Life group are now in the possession of the Dutch police. I tried to warn you earlier that this country takes a very hard line with people who attempt to harm others' reputations through malicious slander and cyberstalking, but obviously you weren't listening. You should listen now, because if you persist I will have no choice but to file formal criminal charges against you. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:22 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... Who knows how many have unsubscribed. Rick Archer has not yet had the balls to booth the butt-fucking-babies member. Meanwhile we'll se what the Leiden Police choose to do as searching his computers for child porn is too late, he had all Thursday night to get rid of everything. Have the child he is looking after taken in for a medical examination perhaps.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
I certainly hope so. Going too far has one meaning when considered morally, but quite another when considered legally. Legally, they went WAY over the line. If they drop it, I will. On Nov 29, 2014, at 15:13, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I think your comments have had the intended effect. Nabby deleted his most recent message (although it remains in the Archives in all its glory). Now that he has done that, I am curious what sort of rejoinder he will or will not post. His best option, remaining on the forum, would be to divert to other subjects, as you suggested. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Nablus, I suggest that you drop this, because YOUR name, email address, and posting history here on the Fairfield Life group are now in the possession of the Dutch police. I tried to warn you earlier that this country takes a very hard line with people who attempt to harm others' reputations through malicious slander and cyberstalking, but obviously you weren't listening. You should listen now, because if you persist I will have no choice but to file formal criminal charges against you. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:22 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... Who knows how many have unsubscribed. Rick Archer has not yet had the balls to booth the butt-fucking-babies member. Meanwhile we'll se what the Leiden Police choose to do as searching his computers for child porn is too late, he had all Thursday night to get rid of everything. Have the child he is looking after taken in for a medical examination perhaps.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies...
You miss - Mrs. Who you lookin at! Here come close so I can vomit on you. ??? You miss - I'm so enlightened - aren't you glad I'm even talking to you waking-state slaves? You must be desperate Share. Go have some left-over turkey. You'll feel sleepy again and can nap until you feel better.
[FairfieldLife] The Peak - An alternative Yahoo Group to FFL - from fleetwood_macncheese
Hi, Jim Flanegin here, aka, fleetwood_macncheese. I have made some good friends here, and invite them, and anyone who likes a good conversation, without the over the top insanity, to my new Yahoo Group, The Peak. Very similar format to here - Moderated membership, and open content. I will moderate, with the goal being creating an entertaining and enjoyable environment, and good conversation. The Peak is an ongoing conversation about our journey as human beings, upwards towards the pinnacle, and fulfillment of our existence; Enlightenment. Any other topics, such as politics, economics, sexuality, UFO's, every day life, designing umbrellas, and even religion, are welcome, too. This site is moderated, with the focus being on entertaining, civil, and interesting discussions. Thank you for contributing! PS I am pretty busy today, so if I don't approve your membership immediately, hold tight. Thanks!
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Peak - An alternative Yahoo Group to FFL - from fleetwood_macncheese
The Peak https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/the_peak/info https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/the_peak/info The Peak https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/the_peak/info The Peak is an ongoing conversation about our journey as human beings, upwards towards the pinnacle, and fulfillment of our existence; Enlightenmen... View on groups.yahoo.com https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/the_peak/info Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_arch...@yahoo.com wrote : Hi, Jim Flanegin here, aka, fleetwood_macncheese. I have made some good friends here, and invite them, and anyone who likes a good conversation, without the over the top insanity, to my new Yahoo Group, The Peak. Very similar format to here - Moderated membership, and open content. I will moderate, with the goal being creating an entertaining and enjoyable environment, and good conversation. The Peak is an ongoing conversation about our journey as human beings, upwards towards the pinnacle, and fulfillment of our existence; Enlightenment. Any other topics, such as politics, economics, sexuality, UFO's, every day life, designing umbrellas, and even religion, are welcome, too. This site is moderated, with the focus being on entertaining, civil, and interesting discussions. Thank you for contributing! PS I am pretty busy today, so if I don't approve your membership immediately, hold tight. Thanks!
[FairfieldLife] Share Groups, was Buddha was every inch a Hindu
On 11/29/2014 7:14 AM, Share Long wrote: Richard, just in case Rick closes FFL given recent events, and if you join another group, please let me know about that group. I'd like to join too. Share - There used to be a group called the Bhagavad Gita Lab - don't know what happened to it. Sometimes I post to a Google Group, which is un-moderated. Recently I joined a Yahoo Group moderated by Paul Mason and I plan to post some more of my Sri Vidya musings that you might be interested in reading. /So much to do - so little time./ https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/alt.meditation https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21forum/alt.meditation https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Shankaracharya_Swami_Brahmanand_Ji/info *From:* 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, November 28, 2014 8:53 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Buddha was every inch a Hindu On 11/28/2014 8:07 PM, sri...@ymail.com mailto:sri...@ymail.com wrote: Buddha was every inch a Hindu - Koenraad Elst https://bharatabharati.wordpress.com/2013/08/10/buddha-was-every-inch-a-hindu-koenraad-elst/ According to Professor Flood, there were no Hindus in the historical Buddha's time. /The actual term Hindu first occurs as a Persian geographical term for the people who lived beyond the river Indus./ The term Hindu then was a geographical term and did not refer to a religion. Work cited: Flood, Gavin (Editor) (2003). *The Blackwell Companion to Hinduism*. Malden, MA: Blackwell Publishing Ltd. p.6.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies...
emptyb, yes I must be desperate. But there's a weird strength in acknowledging
that. Liberation even. Rather than nap, I shall go figger (-:
From: emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies...
You miss - Mrs. Who you lookin at! Here come close so I can vomit on
you. ???You miss - I'm so enlightened - aren't you glad I'm even talking to
you waking-state slaves? You must be desperate Share. Go have some left-over
turkey. You'll feel sleepy again and can nap until you feel better.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
On 11/29/2014 8:13 AM, anartaxius wrote: I think your comments have had the intended effect. Nabby deleted his most recent message (although it remains in the Archives in all its glory). Now that he has done that, I am curious what sort of rejoinder he will or will not post. His best option, remaining on the forum, would be to divert to other subjects, as you suggested. /It's been my experience that threats of this nature are just so much bluffing. Obviously if anyone was going to report someone to the police they wouldn't post that information here because that would alert the other party and eliminate the element of surprise. It's probably best when posting to public forums to just keep your big pie holes shut with the porn talk. Anyone who fails to do this and persists would obviously be in need of some kind of counseling. I'd suggest snipping if this subject needs any further discussion. / ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : *Nablus, I suggest that you drop this, because YOUR name, email address, and posting history here on the Fairfield Life group are now in the possession of the Dutch police. I tried to warn you earlier that this country takes a very hard line with people who attempt to harm others' reputations through malicious slander and cyberstalking, but obviously you weren't listening. You should listen now, because if you persist I will have no choice but to file formal criminal charges against you. * *From:* nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:22 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... Who knows how many have unsubscribed. Rick Archer has not yet had the balls to booth the butt-fucking-babies member. Meanwhile we'll se what the Leiden Police choose to do as searching his computers for child porn is too late, he had all Thursday night to get rid of everything. Have the child he is looking after taken in for a medical examination perhaps.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Share Groups, was Buddha was every inch a Hindu
Thanks, Richard, I really like groups where they discuss spirituality PLUS
everyday life, current events, etc.
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 9:38 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Share Groups, was Buddha was every inch a Hindu
On 11/29/2014 7:14 AM, Share Long wrote:
Richard, just in case Rick closes FFL given recent events, and if you join
another group, please let me know about that group. I'd like to join too.
Share - There used to be a group called the Bhagavad Gita Lab - don't know
what happened to it. Sometimes I post to a Google Group, which is un-moderated.
Recently I joined a Yahoo Group moderated by Paul Mason and I plan to post some
more of my Sri Vidya musings that you might be interested in reading. So much
to do - so little time.
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/alt.meditation
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Shankaracharya_Swami_Brahmanand_Ji/info
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Buddha was every inch a Hindu
On 11/28/2014 8:07 PM, sri...@ymail.com wrote:
Buddha was every inch a Hindu - Koenraad Elst
According to Professor Flood, there were no Hindus in the historical
Buddha's time. The actual term Hindu first occurs as a Persian geographical
term for the people who lived beyond the river Indus. The term Hindu then was
a geographical term and did not refer to a religion.
Work cited:
Flood, Gavin (Editor) (2003). The Blackwell Companion to Hinduism. Malden, MA:
Blackwell Publishing Ltd. p.6.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
All schools in the Dutch city of Leiden closed on Monday amid police concerns that an internet troll had been stalking an alleged child molester suspected of abusing babies. Police are investigating the accusation of child molestation and have responded by advising all schools to stay closed for the day. Leiden Mayor Henri Lenferink told Dutch broadcaster NOS: “It could just be a morbid joke but we don’t want to take any risk.” The police have issued warrants for the arrest of both the stalker and the pervert. Due to crowded jail conditions, it is likely they will share a bunk in the slammer until they can post bail. Dutch schools closed in Leiden over online mass shooting threats | BelleNews.com http://www.bellenews.com/2013/04/22/world/europe-news/leiden-schools-closed-over-online-mass-shooting-threats-in-the-netherlands/ http://www.bellenews.com/2013/04/22/world/europe-news/leiden-schools-closed-over-online-mass-shooting-threats-in-the-netherlands/ Dutch schools closed in Leiden over online mass s... http://www.bellenews.com/2013/04/22/world/europe-news/leiden-schools-closed-over-online-mass-shooting-threats-in-the-netherlands/ Home Breaking News Dutch schools closed in Leiden over online mass shooting threats Dutch schools closed in Leiden over online mass shooting threa... View on www.bellenews.com http://www.bellenews.com/2013/04/22/world/europe-news/leiden-schools-closed-over-online-mass-shooting-threats-in-the-netherlands/ Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Nukunu Larsen: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 11/29/2014
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
You have now officially been added to Interpol's Watch List, Raunchy.
Congratulations.
From: raunchy...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
All schools in the Dutch city of Leiden closed on Monday amid police
concerns that an internet troll had been stalking an alleged child molester
suspected of abusing babies. Police are investigating the accusation of child
molestation and have responded by advising all schools to stay closed for the
day.
Leiden Mayor Henri Lenferink told Dutch broadcaster NOS: “It could just be a
morbid joke but we don’t want to take any risk.”
The police have issued warrants for the arrest of both the stalker and the
pervert. Due to crowded jail conditions, it is likely they will share a bunk in
the slammer until they can post bail.
Dutch schools closed in Leiden over online mass shooting threats |
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Lucid-dreaming query
Lucid Dreaming and Witnessing Dreaming are generally considered to be two different things. Even people who have never practiced TM but are interested in Lucid Dreaming accept the distinction, or at least, the websites I have seen that discuss Lucid Dreaming have a separate section where Witnessing Dreaming is discussed. The physiological correlates are entirely different: Witnessing Dreaming is integration of the coherent alpha EEG found during TM with the dream state. Lucid Dreaming is integration of the coherent gamma EEG found during other meditation practices with the dream state. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : S3, Lucid dreaming is a result of your meditation practice. It is the manifestation of transcendental consciousness in the dreaming state. MMY has stated that TC can be automatically maintained in the waking, sleeping and dreaming states. But there are junctures in between these states where pure consciousness exists--that is, the state of no thought. In this particular discussion, MMY asked a rhetorical question: what would happen if a person can both maintain the waking and dreaming states at the same time? Personally, I don't know the answer. Also, IMO, dreams are influenced partially by the transit of the Moon as it progresses through the various zodiacs on a nightly basis. IOW, the Moon has a magnetic effect on a person's brain, thus influencing various parts of the brain that includes personality, memory and inherent personal behaviors. On a more esoteric levels, it through dreams that a person can get a personal message from the unified field. It is through dreams that one gets some subtle insight into your past life karma, and possible events that will happen in the future, both near and far. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : So last night I had a lucid experience while dreaming (it's happened a few times before - always involuntary as I've never bothered to follow the techniques recommended by devotees of this perception). At least I assume it was a lucid-dream experience - I suppose one could have a normal dream which included the false thought that one was lucid when in fact one wasn't (if you can follow that explanation). What's more, I woke up (for real), mused about the dream for a minute, then fell asleep again and immediately went back into the same dream landscape in the same self-conscious, lucid state. Now I'd heard that when in a lucid dream you can alter the dreamscape to suit yourself. So you might find it amusing to flip over into being a Zero pilot on a kamikaze mission and diving into the Golden Dome in Fairfield. Whatever floats your boat. Anyway, though I was lucidly self-aware that I was indeed dreaming I couldn't change the story narration unfolding before me so just left the dream to run its course while absorbing the novel experience. My question is: is there some trick to getting the dream to change to suit your whim or is it a case of practice makes perfect? Or maybe most lucid dreams are like mine? Or maybe my will power is feeble compared with my imaginative power and others have a more dominant will? Anyone had a similar experience?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
I've watched this will some alarm because last time I was posting here I had to try to back down Jim and Nabby from creating fantasy ill-will scenarios about my personal life in response to me posting my opinions about Maharishi's teaching. It was an escalation of their MO since I began posting here. I am happy to see it resolved with Jim creating his own page while hilariously claiming that it was because OTHER people were not being civil here! I do not believe it will last any more than his participation on then other enlightened forum, but hope to be proven wrong. I think you were right to go the legal route because they were crossing a weird and disturbing line Barry. There is no parity between how you post here and what those guys were up to. FFL has gone through many different incarnations as strongly influential posters come and go. I viewed the end of the Judy era as a positive thing, but was disturbed to see how others escalated to fill the gap. Judy ran her routine in a much more interesting way IMO, so despite strongly dissagreing with her most of the time, I was entertained and prompted to write more many times because of her participation. That degraded in the era of the clique she led that involved the Share bashing era in the girl's locker room. Shit got weird and unpleasant, but worst of all boring. I don't know where FFL is headed now but I am an optimist. I intend to report on my experiences tomorrow at the event in Alexandria. Last I checked almost 800 people had reserved a seat. I had some contact with people from the old days who were kind enough to share their perspective. Although I remain a skeptic and am not really going with anything close to an open mind (overrated at this stage of my life I believe) I will go for the many layers of entertainment. One of the greatest aspects of the entertainment will be posting here about it. FFL has been a great resource for my thinking and writing. It has been so useful that I have put up with some people with unfriendly agendas against me here. It was the ticket for admission. Sorry to see things spiral out so far here but I am encouraged to see the changes.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
Curtis, I'm still LOLing as I reply. What got me laughing was your comment
about what is overrated at this stage of life. Being vague so others can enjoy
it for themselves...Have fun tomorrow and I look forward to your report.
From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
I've watched this will some alarm because last time I was posting here I
had to try to back down Jim and Nabby from creating fantasy ill-will scenarios
about my personal life in response to me posting my opinions about Maharishi's
teaching. It was an escalation of their MO since I began posting here. I am
happy to see it resolved with Jim creating his own page while hilariously
claiming that it was because OTHER people were not being civil here! I do not
believe it will last any more than his participation on then other
enlightened forum, but hope to be proven wrong.
I think you were right to go the legal route because they were crossing a weird
and disturbing line Barry. There is no parity between how you post here and
what those guys were up to.
FFL has gone through many different incarnations as strongly influential
posters come and go. I viewed the end of the Judy era as a positive thing, but
was disturbed to see how others escalated to fill the gap. Judy ran her routine
in a much more interesting way IMO, so despite strongly dissagreing with her
most of the time, I was entertained and prompted to write more many times
because of her participation. That degraded in the era of the clique she led
that involved the Share bashing era in the girl's locker room. Shit got weird
and unpleasant, but worst of all boring.
I don't know where FFL is headed now but I am an optimist. I intend to report
on my experiences tomorrow at the event in Alexandria. Last I checked almost
800 people had reserved a seat. I had some contact with people from the old
days who were kind enough to share their perspective. Although I remain a
skeptic and am not really going with anything close to an open mind
(overrated at this stage of my life I believe) I will go for the many layers of
entertainment. One of the greatest aspects of the entertainment will be posting
here about it. FFL has been a great resource for my thinking and writing. It
has been so useful that I have put up with some people with unfriendly agendas
against me here. It was the ticket for admission.
Sorry to see things spiral out so far here but I am encouraged to see the
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... I've watched this will some alarm because last time I was posting here I had to try to back down Jim and Nabby from creating fantasy ill-will scenarios about my personal life in response to me posting my opinions about Maharishi's teaching. It was an escalation of their MO since I began posting here. Sorry to draw you back into it, but as you -- more than most people here -- understand, this affected me and people I love and care about legally. You may be used to this level of ickiness by now, but I wasn't. I responded to it by feeling the need to remind these people that I'd have NO PROBLEM putting them in a Dutch prison for several years. The fascinating thing is that for both of them, I suspect that a Dutch prison might be a step up in terms of the accomodations and lifestyle they've been used to. :-) I am happy to see it resolved with Jim creating his own page while hilariously claiming that it was because OTHER people were not being civil here! I do not believe it will last any more than his participation on then other enlightened forum, but hope to be proven wrong. I think you were right to go the legal route because they were crossing a weird and disturbing line Barry. There is no parity between how you post here and what those guys were up to. Thanks for your input. I'm trying to be somewhat honest here by admitting that I was downright *trying* to push these assholes' buttons by choosing the language I did when talking about their guru. But I chose that language -- as unpleasant as it may have seemed to many people's ears -- with accuracy and with The Law firmly in mind. In their responses to what I posted, they did not make similar choices. Legally, that means I am on safe ground and they are...how do they say it in your country?...fucked.
Re: [FairfieldLife] TV series review: Manhattan
WGN is a Chicago independent TV station that has been available on cable and satellite for years. This year they made the foray into original programming starting with Salem which you didn't like because it dealt with witchcraft as being something real but you missed an excellent award deserving portrayal of Increase Mather by Stephen Lang. Salem is much like Manhattan as it portrays what the people of Salem must have been like in those days. Manhattan was excellent and I watched the first episode trying to figure out where I had see John Benjamin Hickey before and that was in Showtime's The Big C where he played Laura Linney's homeless schizophrenic brother, another example of his diverse acting skills. Manhattan resonates with me because I grew up near part of the Manhattan project: the Hanford Nuclear Reservation where they made the plutonium for the bombs in the N reactor. They took a little farm wide spot in the road of 125 people, Richland, Washington, and turned it into a city overnight. The 'tude you see in Manhattan was still present during the Cold War too. Some of the residents of my small town even worked at Hanford during the war. Both series have been renewed for a second series. They were produced and the WGN head just wanted good television and he got it. Good television in opposition to the contrived bean counter controlled drek than the major networks produce. And just look at folks who signed on to Manhattan for even minor roles such as Peter Stormare (Fargo). I'm looking forward to the return of both series. How did I watch since I cut the cable a year ago: on my TV using HuluPlus which unfortunately hasn't had a lot to offer this season and has begun putting ads in newer movies (they usually don't have ads in any of their movies). HuluPlus is a subscription version of Hulu that allows playing shows on TVs via apps on Bluray players, Roku, etc. Hulu is owned by CBS, FOX and ABC and the TV shows have ads mainly because the subscription rate is on $8 a month and the networks sell ad free versions on Amazon, iTunes, Vudu, Google Play, etc. They have the Critereon movie library too which remains ad free. Might also add that I've heard the launch of HBO Go for anyone will be in January. What this means is you don't need a cable or satellite subscription to watch their shows just subscribe to their service and watch on your phone, tablet, PC or TV. On 11/29/2014 02:35 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: */Between July and October a new series was aired on the WGN network in America (whatever that is) that I started watching when I first heard about it but then got busy and put it aside. Well, recently I finally had time to go back and binge-watch it, and have come away so impressed that I felt I had to review it here. The title of the series -- Manhattan -- refers not to the island or the city or the Woody Allen movie, but to one of the most monumental science projects ever. In 1943, with WWII still raging, 200+ of America's best physicists and engineers were uprooted from their normal homes and moved out into the gawdawful barrenness of the New Mexico high desert, near Los Alamos. There, in a camp that resembled a prison camp more than a modern science lab, they set about trying to invent the atomic bomb. Some of you might react to this as the basis for a TV series with Ho hum. We all know, after all, that they *succeeded* in inventing that bomb. So on one level there is as little anticipatory drama available to hang plots on as there is with the sinking of the Titanic. Still, in the world of cinema and TV, it's HOW you tell the story that makes a film like A Night To Remember a forgettable potboiler and James Cameron's Titanic one of the biggest blockbusters in history. Manhattan is never going to be a blockbuster, partly because it's too smart for most American audiences. I was interested in the story because my grandfather actually worked on this project -- not in New Mexico but back in Princeton with Einstein. But I'd heard through him and others some of the stories of what life was like for those who *did* design the bomb there, so I was interested in seeing it. What I didn't expect was for WGN (again, whoever they are) to do such a good job of telling the stories. These are some of the smartest people on Earth, penned up in (basically) a prison camp and spied on by their own military 24/7. John Benjamin Hickey does a *tremendous* job of portraying the leader of the implosion group (competing for money and resources against the gun-type group), and Olivia Williams (from Dollhouse) does as great a job of portraying his long-suffering wife. Ashley Zukerman is equally great as the young, brilliant scientist torn between the two groups and trying to deal with his new wife (Rachel Brosnahan) while unable to even tell her what he's working on. The series is best when it
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Uh-oh, Black Friday goes Brit
Neither can my LED set. But I specifically bought a dumb TV instead of a smart one because I already had devices that have the apps. Furthermore here you may pay $200 more for a smart set. Besides how long will they update if they can at all the apps on the smart TV? I have all the latest apps on my Sony BD player, the entry level S1200 which was free to me because of rewards on a credit card but only around $60 retail. It's Ethernet only but I've had that cable strung for years to my TV area. Smart people buy dumb TVs. ;-) On 11/28/2014 11:50 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : What! No flat panel? You're going to be stuck with last year's model? Well, we figured we shoudn't leave the UK out of all the fun. Last years model! Blimey, I should be so lucky! Mine can't even access the internet on it's own. On 11/28/2014 10:04 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Seems it's ain't just a US thang. Uh-oh is the word! I went down the shops for some milk and had to fight through endless crowds all after TVs and stuff. Thousand of them! At 8 O'clock in the morning! I don't know why we have to import everything from America, there must be some quaint European customs we can imitate when we can't think of anything ourselves. I did check for cameras though and all the ones I could find were discontinued models they wouldn't sell otherwise. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/black-friday-shoppers-clash-in-the-u-k-slideshow/
Re: [FairfieldLife] There is NO American Dream
On 11/28/2014 06:31 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Dream on college kids. It will probably take and insurrection to correct this. /Why do almost all of your economic solutions involve violence? / / /On 11/28/2014 7:23 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Because history repeats itself. The people have the right of revolution but individuals do not. At present you stand alone. Hardly, you must not be paying attention to the news. Do you know that the riots going on about Ferguson really don't have as much to do with racial problems as they do with increasing poverty, lack of jobs, police militarization, economic inequity? When people can't afford food anymore then revolutions occur as they did in France and Russia and coming soon to a country near you. /All political power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their benefit. The faith of the people of Texas stands pledged to the preservation of a republican form of government, and, subject to this limitation only, they have at all times the inalienable right to alter, reform or abolish their government in such manner as they may think expedient./ *The Constitution of Texas, Article 1, Sect 2:* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Texas /All Americans are already living the American Dream - it's not just an economic, class, or status idea. //Everyone, rich or poor, is already living the dream, Barry2! Wake up and smell the coffee. / Try reading the article first before you comment. The professor disagrees with you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
I am just trying to keep from being so open minded that my brains fall out! Glad it made you laugh. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Curtis, I'm still LOLing as I reply. What got me laughing was your comment about what is overrated at this stage of life. Being vague so others can enjoy it for themselves... Have fun tomorrow and I look forward to your report. From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... I've watched this will some alarm because last time I was posting here I had to try to back down Jim and Nabby from creating fantasy ill-will scenarios about my personal life in response to me posting my opinions about Maharishi's teaching. It was an escalation of their MO since I began posting here. I am happy to see it resolved with Jim creating his own page while hilariously claiming that it was because OTHER people were not being civil here! I do not believe it will last any more than his participation on then other enlightened forum, but hope to be proven wrong. I think you were right to go the legal route because they were crossing a weird and disturbing line Barry. There is no parity between how you post here and what those guys were up to. FFL has gone through many different incarnations as strongly influential posters come and go. I viewed the end of the Judy era as a positive thing, but was disturbed to see how others escalated to fill the gap. Judy ran her routine in a much more interesting way IMO, so despite strongly dissagreing with her most of the time, I was entertained and prompted to write more many times because of her participation. That degraded in the era of the clique she led that involved the Share bashing era in the girl's locker room. Shit got weird and unpleasant, but worst of all boring. I don't know where FFL is headed now but I am an optimist. I intend to report on my experiences tomorrow at the event in Alexandria. Last I checked almost 800 people had reserved a seat. I had some contact with people from the old days who were kind enough to share their perspective. Although I remain a skeptic and am not really going with anything close to an open mind (overrated at this stage of my life I believe) I will go for the many layers of entertainment. One of the greatest aspects of the entertainment will be posting here about it. FFL has been a great resource for my thinking and writing. It has been so useful that I have put up with some people with unfriendly agendas against me here. It was the ticket for admission. Sorry to see things spiral out so far here but I am encouraged to see the changes.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
Geez, Barry. I thought you were joking about abusing babies just to push buttons of imaginary cult members the same as I am pushing your buttons about being a pervert. Abusing babies...wow! That was a real knee slapper, still ROTFLMAO. Pleeezze...call off the cops and I’ll never to make fun of you being a harmless little bunny again. Holy Grail - Killer Bunny http://youtu.be/XcxKIJTb3Hg http://youtu.be/XcxKIJTb3Hg Holy Grail - Killer Bunny http://youtu.be/XcxKIJTb3Hg A clip from Monty Python's 'The Holy Grail' Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DUV7kZQcBofeature=watch_response View on youtu.be http://youtu.be/XcxKIJTb3Hg Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
I think you can appreciate the distinction between making a provocative comment a dead public figure and an actual living person who could be hurt in their real life by such accusations right? One of Barry's points here is that people are inordinately attached to certain ideas, like the sacred divinity of Maharishi, who is now dead. (some at tomorrows meetings seem to disagree on this point, but do agree that he is in another world now) Your appreciation of Monty Python's poking a finger in the eye of Christianity makes me hopeful that you understand the value and use of satire against ideas, no matter how enthusiastically held. Switching from that to a personal accusation which can so easily be misconstrued on a public forum is a big jump. I suspect you can distinguish this kind of insult from the myriad of others which would not bring this kind of response. That distinction was why it was chosen wasn't it? It really isn't a subtle line or an unreasonable one to insist not be crossed on a public forum because you disagree with a person's perspective on ideas you hold dear. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Geez, Barry. I thought you were joking about abusing babies just to push buttons of imaginary cult members the same as I am pushing your buttons about being a pervert. Abusing babies...wow! That was a real knee slapper, still ROTFLMAO. Pleeezze...call off the cops and I’ll never to make fun of you being a harmless little bunny again. Holy Grail - Killer Bunny http://youtu.be/XcxKIJTb3Hg http://youtu.be/XcxKIJTb3Hg Holy Grail - Killer Bunny http://youtu.be/XcxKIJTb3Hg A clip from Monty Python's 'The Holy Grail' Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DUV7kZQcBofeature=watch_response View on youtu.be http://youtu.be/XcxKIJTb3Hg Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies...
Re filing of actual criminal charges: Don't US courts refuse to extradite their own citizens to the law in foreign jurisdictions? Or at least make it damned difficult? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, if I apologize, what's included is an intention to avoid doing the hurtful behavior in the future. Heck we all do awful stuff sometimes. I think it's a valid part of relating to others that we acknowledge our part in their upset and then soldier on. Yes, the operative word here is IF. Trouble is these days a lot of people think that because they are offended by something it automatically follows that someone has done something wrong and should apologise. It seems like simply being offended gives them the right to control other's opinions. Beats me. Worse, in this Age of New Age Narcissism, they feel that they have the right to inflict *their* opinions on others. In the most recent case here on Fairfield Life, my choice of words pushed the buttons of a few cultists so badly that they began to imagine things about me that aren't true. This is nothing new, but then -- probably because they're so USED to taking their own fantasies seriously and treating them as Truth Incarnate -- they started to act those fantasies out on this forum and accuse me of things. The things that they have brainwashed themselves to believe about me aren't true, but they are volatile enough that if I had allowed them to go unresponded-to, the resulting libel and defamation could potentially have a negative impact on my family. Fortunately for me (and unfortunately for the two people who have chosen to defame me), one of our close family friends here in the Netherlands IS a cop, and furthermore one who works in the anti-cyberterrorism group. We know him from a local Meetup discussion group, of which we've all been members for some time. So yesterday I explained the situation to him and, to my surprise, his first question to me was, By any chance, are these people who are trying to insinuate that you are a child molestor members of a religious cult? Somewhat taken aback, I said Yes, and then he explained that the reason he asked is that this (using the Internet to attempt to brand someone as a sex criminal, especially in regard to children) was a favorite tactic used by cults they are tracking in the Netherlands (especially $cientology, but also some extreme Christian cults). He advised me to take this action by Nabby and Jim Flanegin more seriously, and walked me through the steps of doing so. Here in the Netherlands, it's a two-step process. First I notify the proper division of the police about the cyberstalking, giving them the email addresses of the stalkers and forwarding to them examples of all defamatory posts or emails they have sent. This officially puts them on a Watch List, and causes Interpol and other agencies to flag any traffic coming from these addresses for further scrutiny. This has been done. If they wise up and drop this stupidity, I will never need to take it to step two, which is the filing of actual criminal charges. Note that the words criminal charges are exact in this situation -- my friend made it very clear that here in the Netherlands what they are doing is not a mere civil offense but a crime. But the saddest part from my point of view is that neither of these guys is going to ever feel as if they did anything wrong. THEY were the ones taking the two words I posted *referring to their spiritual teacher* and turning them in their heads into some kind of psychological diagnosis of me. THEY were the ones committing defamation and libel -- as pointed out earlier, I never once suggested that Maharishi or anyone else *really* was into fucking babies. THEY made that up, and about me. My friend the cop -- having seen my original post and their followups -- tells me that if either of them persists in this folly, my case against them will be a slam-dunk and he could put them in prison. But isn't it amazing that they felt that they had the *right* to do this in the first place? As Salyavin and others have pointed out (and my friend the cop suggested as well), this syndrome of professional outrage they wear like a badge of honor is quite possibly a form of mental illness. Their outrage does NOT give them the right to act out the fantasies my words inspire in them and harm others. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 12:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... If I was the moderator of this group I'd put him on probation with a very strong warning and demand an apology to the entire group and until he does I'd limit his participation. I don't know who wrote the above but
Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
It was Judy who brought that phrase about being open minded, attributed to her dad, after I accused her of being close minded on a topic. What is happening to FFL is we are getting old and cranky. Some of us are approaching our 70s and some are already there. And we have some that are a generation younger (apparently Salyavin and MJ). It is kinda unusual to watch a group fly this out of control. Usually moderators will keep things civil but then there's nothing like a free for all either. Some of us like to keep our anonymity because we don't want (having been TM teachers) unwarranted reprisals from the TMO. Even Judy recommended it. But anyway the places also has to keep up it's appearances as a loony bin which doesn't seem to hard to do. :-D On 11/29/2014 09:33 AM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I am just trying to keep from being so open minded that my brains fall out! Glad it made you laugh. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Curtis, I'm still LOLing as I reply. What got me laughing was your comment about what is overrated at this stage of life. Being vague so others can enjoy it for themselves... Have fun tomorrow and I look forward to your report. *From:* curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 10:47 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... I've watched this will some alarm because last time I was posting here I had to try to back down Jim and Nabby from creating fantasy ill-will scenarios about my personal life in response to me posting my opinions about Maharishi's teaching. It was an escalation of their MO since I began posting here. I am happy to see it resolved with Jim creating his own page while hilariously claiming that it was because OTHER people were not being civil here! I do not believe it will last any more than his participation on then other enlightened forum, but hope to be proven wrong. I think you were right to go the legal route because they were crossing a weird and disturbing line Barry. There is no parity between how you post here and what those guys were up to. FFL has gone through many different incarnations as strongly influential posters come and go. I viewed the end of the Judy era as a positive thing, but was disturbed to see how others escalated to fill the gap. Judy ran her routine in a much more interesting way IMO, so despite strongly dissagreing with her most of the time, I was entertained and prompted to write more many times because of her participation. That degraded in the era of the clique she led that involved the Share bashing era in the girl's locker room. Shit got weird and unpleasant, but worst of all boring. I don't know where FFL is headed now but I am an optimist. I intend to report on my experiences tomorrow at the event in Alexandria. Last I checked almost 800 people had reserved a seat. I had some contact with people from the old days who were kind enough to share their perspective. Although I remain a skeptic and am not really going with anything close to an open mind (overrated at this stage of my life I believe) I will go for the many layers of entertainment. One of the greatest aspects of the entertainment will be posting here about it. FFL has been a great resource for my thinking and writing. It has been so useful that I have put up with some people with unfriendly agendas against me here. It was the ticket for admission. Sorry to see things spiral out so far here but I am encouraged to see the changes.
[FairfieldLife] Re: porno vid
Re Sigmund Freud . . . significant meaning behind his cigar smoking - Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.: Alas, although it is a great quote Sigmund never said it. In fact, he being a heavy smoker implies that, according to his own pet theory, Freud was an oral type. ORAL PERSONALITY: According to the original theories of psychoanalysis, a personality fixed emotionally in the oral stage of development, whose sexual and aggressive drives are satisfied by putting things in his or her mouth. Depending on when the fixation occurs, oral personalities tend to be either optimistic, generous, and gregarious or aggressive, ambitious, and selfish. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/28/2014 8:24 PM, srijau@... mailto:srijau@... wrote: Toronto photographer’s ‘skyline porn’ video goes viral This search for significant meanings where none are to be found recalls the reply made by Sigmund Freud to overzealous disciples who felt that there must be a significant meaning behind his cigar smoking - Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : It was Judy who brought that phrase about being open minded, attributed to her dad, after I accused her of being close minded on a topic. C: I didn't get if from Judy or her dad. We all got it from someplace else, it is a common saying. The skeptics use it a lot which is most likely my source. James Randi used it a lot. N: What is happening to FFL is we are getting old and cranky. Some of us are approaching our 70s and some are already there. And we have some that are a generation younger (apparently Salyavin and MJ). It is kinda unusual to watch a group fly this out of control. Usually moderators will keep things civil but then there's nothing like a free for all either. Some of us like to keep our anonymity because we don't want (having been TM teachers) unwarranted reprisals from the TMO. Even Judy recommended it. But anyway the places also has to keep up it's appearances as a loony bin which doesn't seem to hard to do. :-D C: I think it has worked pretty well as an unmoderated discussion group with a few exceptions. I can only think of a few times when it seemed to go over what I consider a reasonable line. I don't mind if someone calls me names here about being stupid or unevolved because of my perspective. I consider all of that a version of poopy pants and believe it weakens their argument against my points. It says this is all I got. So if a moderator jumped in on that kind of personal attack it would take away what i consider to be evidence of my points not being refuted by reason. That works for me. On 11/29/2014 09:33 AM, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I am just trying to keep from being so open minded that my brains fall out! Glad it made you laugh. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Curtis, I'm still LOLing as I reply. What got me laughing was your comment about what is overrated at this stage of life. Being vague so others can enjoy it for themselves... Have fun tomorrow and I look forward to your report. From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:curtisdeltablues@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... I've watched this will some alarm because last time I was posting here I had to try to back down Jim and Nabby from creating fantasy ill-will scenarios about my personal life in response to me posting my opinions about Maharishi's teaching. It was an escalation of their MO since I began posting here. I am happy to see it resolved with Jim creating his own page while hilariously claiming that it was because OTHER people were not being civil here! I do not believe it will last any more than his participation on then other enlightened forum, but hope to be proven wrong. I think you were right to go the legal route because they were crossing a weird and disturbing line Barry. There is no parity between how you post here and what those guys were up to. FFL has gone through many different incarnations as strongly influential posters come and go. I viewed the end of the Judy era as a positive thing, but was disturbed to see how others escalated to fill the gap. Judy ran her routine in a much more interesting way IMO, so despite strongly dissagreing with her most of the time, I was entertained and prompted to write more many times because of her participation. That degraded in the era of the clique she led that involved the Share bashing era in the girl's locker room. Shit got weird and unpleasant, but worst of all boring. I don't know where FFL is headed now but I am an optimist. I intend to report on my experiences tomorrow at the event in Alexandria. Last I checked almost 800 people had reserved a seat. I had some contact with people from the old days who were kind enough to share their perspective. Although I remain a skeptic and am not really going with anything close to an open mind (overrated at this stage of my life I believe) I will go for the many layers of entertainment. One of the greatest aspects of the entertainment will be posting here about it. FFL has been a great resource for my thinking and writing. It has been so useful that I have put up with some people with unfriendly agendas against me here. It was the ticket for admission. Sorry to see things spiral out so far here but I am encouraged to see the changes.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies...
Raunchy, I agree that Barry is a degenerate filth and a rotten piece of shit. But, he cleverly worded his statement in such a way that it would seem to general readers, that true blue believers would condone such an act (whether by maharishi or anyone else). In other words, he seems to be implying that true believers are perverts or fools, as they would condone such an act. I think this provoked Jim and Ann. --- raunchydog@... wrote : Geez, Barry. I thought you were joking about abusing babies just to push buttons of imaginary cult members the same as I am pushing your buttons about being a pervert. Abusing babies...wow! That was a real knee slapper, still ROTFLMAO. Pleeezze...call off the cops and I’ll never to make fun of you being a harmless little bunny again. Holy Grail - Killer Bunny http://youtu.be/XcxKIJTb3Hg http://youtu.be/XcxKIJTb3Hg Holy Grail - Killer Bunny http://youtu.be/XcxKIJTb3Hg A clip from Monty Python's 'The Holy Grail' Also: http://www.youtub... View on youtu.be http://youtu.be/XcxKIJTb3Hg Preview by Yahoo All schools in the Dutch city of Leiden closed on Monday amid police concerns that an internet troll had been stalking an alleged child molester suspected of abusing babies. Police are investigating the accusation of child molestation and have responded by advising all schools to stay closed for the day. Leiden Mayor Henri Lenferink told Dutch broadcaster NOS: “It could just be a morbid joke but we don’t want to take any risk.” The police have issued warrants for the arrest of both the stalker and the pervert. Due to crowded jail conditions, it is likely they will share a bunk in the slammer until they can post bail. Dutch schools closed in Leiden over online mass shooting threats | BelleNews.com http://www.bellenews.com/2013/04/22/world/europe-news/leiden-schools-closed-over-online-mass-shooting-threats-in-the-netherlands/ http://www.bellenews.com/2013/04/22/world/europe-news/leiden-schools-closed-over-online-mass-shooting-threats-in-the-netherlands/ Dutch schools closed in Leiden over online mass shooting t... http://www.bellenews.com/2013/04/22/world/europe-news/leiden-schools-closed-over-online-mass-shooting-threats-in-the-netherlands/ Home Breaking News Dutch schools closed in Leiden over online mass... View on www.bellenews.com http://www.bellenews.com/2013/04/22/world/europe-news/leiden-schools-closed-over-online-mass-shooting-threats-in-the-netherlands/ Preview by Yahoo --- awoelflebater@... wrote : You have continued to see the world as your addled mind allows you to, bawee. You have completely missed the point. The point is, take responsibility for yourself, for once. Take responsibility for the fact that you are, plain and simple, a vile and obnoxious asshole who hides behind your imaginary (or real, it doesn't matter) investigative journalist who appears brain damaged if he is bothering to study what is already crystal clear here among the posters at FFL or else brain damaged because he has not yet caught on. His button pusher is a stooge and the rest of us are normal, well-adjusted humans who take exception to your bad manners and foul mouth. Simple. Got that mr or mr lurking reporter? How long does it take you to figure this out? Months, years? When are you going to grow up, Wright? Adults look at themselves once in a while and reflect on what they do and say. They take ownership of their actions. This has dick-all to do with MMY. You need to figure out what cultist means, that might help for a start. If it makes you feel any better, I'll claim ownership of being the Queen Cultist. There, better? --- punditster@... wrote : We warned this guy years ago about posting these kind of messages - a double-edged sword. Anyone that has been posting as long as Barry (since 1994) has been posting should know better. Anything can be taken out of context so it's just much better to be friendly online and reserve off-color comments for buddies at the bar. This was really dumb of Barry - in fact, it's one of the dumbest comments I've ever seen on newsgroups since I started in 1999. If I was the moderator of this group I'd put him on probation with a very strong warning and demand an apology to the entire group and until he does I'd limit his participation. This was TOTALLY inappropriate for a family forum like this.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : It was Judy who brought that phrase about being open minded, attributed to her dad, after I accused her of being close minded on a topic. What is happening to FFL is we are getting old and cranky. Some of us are approaching our 70s and some are already there. And we have some that are a generation younger (apparently Salyavin and MJ). Yes, and I must say you lot aren't being a very good influence. How are innocent young souls like me and MJ going to learn what's right with the type of role models we've got here? It is kinda unusual to watch a group fly this out of control. Usually moderators will keep things civil but then there's nothing like a free for all either. Some of us like to keep our anonymity because we don't want (having been TM teachers) unwarranted reprisals from the TMO. Even Judy recommended it. I think it's been quite civil actually, just a few resignations in protest and a few lawsuit threats. Could have been a lot worse. I blame all the spiritual detachment we have. But anyway the place also has to keep up it's appearances as a loony bin which doesn't seem to hard to do. :-D Remember, it's entirely your decision whether you are inside or outside the asylum! On 11/29/2014 09:33 AM, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I am just trying to keep from being so open minded that my brains fall out! Glad it made you laugh. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Curtis, I'm still LOLing as I reply. What got me laughing was your comment about what is overrated at this stage of life. Being vague so others can enjoy it for themselves... Have fun tomorrow and I look forward to your report. From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:curtisdeltablues@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... I've watched this will some alarm because last time I was posting here I had to try to back down Jim and Nabby from creating fantasy ill-will scenarios about my personal life in response to me posting my opinions about Maharishi's teaching. It was an escalation of their MO since I began posting here. I am happy to see it resolved with Jim creating his own page while hilariously claiming that it was because OTHER people were not being civil here! I do not believe it will last any more than his participation on then other enlightened forum, but hope to be proven wrong. I think you were right to go the legal route because they were crossing a weird and disturbing line Barry. There is no parity between how you post here and what those guys were up to. FFL has gone through many different incarnations as strongly influential posters come and go. I viewed the end of the Judy era as a positive thing, but was disturbed to see how others escalated to fill the gap. Judy ran her routine in a much more interesting way IMO, so despite strongly dissagreing with her most of the time, I was entertained and prompted to write more many times because of her participation. That degraded in the era of the clique she led that involved the Share bashing era in the girl's locker room. Shit got weird and unpleasant, but worst of all boring. I don't know where FFL is headed now but I am an optimist. I intend to report on my experiences tomorrow at the event in Alexandria. Last I checked almost 800 people had reserved a seat. I had some contact with people from the old days who were kind enough to share their perspective. Although I remain a skeptic and am not really going with anything close to an open mind (overrated at this stage of my life I believe) I will go for the many layers of entertainment. One of the greatest aspects of the entertainment will be posting here about it. FFL has been a great resource for my thinking and writing. It has been so useful that I have put up with some people with unfriendly agendas against me here. It was the ticket for admission. Sorry to see things spiral out so far here but I am encouraged to see the changes.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
Curtis, do you really believe people are offended by Barry's button pushing because his target is Maharishi? Baby abuse in just an escalation of his usual button pushing MO, the image of which would offend the sensibilities of any normal human being irrespective of their affiliation with Maharishi. Yes, I do see the difference between a personal accusation and satire, do you? Anyone reading my posts would have to be an idiot not to get the satire of my posts making fun of Barry. BTW In response to Barry's faux victim outrage, I'm waiting for the Dutch police to come clattering after me in their wooden shoes.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies...
Raunchy, I agree that Barry is a degenerate filth and a rotten piece of shit. But, he cleverly worded his statement in such a way that it would seem to general readers, that true blue believers would condone such an act (whether by maharishi or anyone else). In other words, he seems to be implying that true believers are perverts or fools, as they would condone such an act. I think this provoked Jim and Ann. Nope. Folks didn't react to Barry because they were offended as true believers. They were offended as human beings repulsed by the vile image of child abuse he invoked.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : I've watched this will some alarm because last time I was posting here I had to try to back down Jim and Nabby from creating fantasy ill-will scenarios about my personal life in response to me posting my opinions about Maharishi's teaching. It was an escalation of their MO since I began posting here. I am happy to see it resolved with Jim creating his own page while hilariously claiming that it was because OTHER people were not being civil here! I do not believe it will last any more than his participation on then other enlightened forum, but hope to be proven wrong. I think you were right to go the legal route because they were crossing a weird and disturbing line Barry. There is no parity between how you post here and what those guys were up to. FFL has gone through many different incarnations as strongly influential posters come and go. I viewed the end of the Judy era as a positive thing, but was disturbed to see how others escalated to fill the gap. Judy ran her routine in a much more interesting way IMO, so despite strongly dissagreing with her most of the time, I was entertained and prompted to write more many times because of her participation. That degraded in the era of the clique she led that involved the Share bashing era in the girl's locker room. Shit got weird and unpleasant, but worst of all boring. I don't know where FFL is headed now but I am an optimist. I intend to report on my experiences tomorrow at the event in Alexandria. Last I checked almost 800 people had reserved a seat. I had some contact with people from the old days who were kind enough to share their perspective. Although I remain a skeptic and am not really going with anything close to an open mind (overrated at this stage of my life I believe) I will go for the many layers of entertainment. One of the greatest aspects of the entertainment will be posting here about it. FFL has been a great resource for my thinking and writing. It has been so useful that I have put up with some people with unfriendly agendas against me here. It was the ticket for admission. OMG, I had completely forgotten about the event tomorrow. I am so looking forward to your take on proceedings Curtis. I think when I checked it was happening in the middle of the night for us Brits but I hope I get to see or read both the Reesh's message to mankind and your analysis. Such fun! Sorry to see things spiral out so far here but I am encouraged to see the changes.
[FairfieldLife] Kubrick The Illuminati
Was film director Stanley Kubrick killed for attempting to blow the whistle on the Illuminati? This documentary examines the conspiracy theory. Scientology, of course, gets a star billing - as did Tom Cruise in Eyes Wide Shut. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WAjdhWOMGI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WAjdhWOMGI
Re: [FairfieldLife] There is NO American Dream
Dream on college kids. It will probably take and insurrection to correct this. /Why do almost all of your economic solutions involve violence? / / /On 11/28/2014 7:23 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Because history repeats itself. The people have the right of revolution but individuals do not. At present you stand alone. On 11/29/2014 11:30 AM, Bhairitu wrote: Hardly, you must not be paying attention to the news. Do you know that the riots going on about Ferguson really don't have as much to do with racial problems as they do with increasing poverty, lack of jobs, police militarization, economic inequity? When people can't afford food anymore then revolutions occur as they did in France and Russia and coming soon to a country near you. /Political power is inherent in the *people.* When individuals rebel and break the law they should be punished. The American Dream is a national ethos of the United States, a set of ideals in which freedom includes the equal opportunity for prosperity and success achieved through hard work. Everyone is equal and they are all endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights which include Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. If you do not agree with this, you should leave the country./ /All political power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their benefit. The faith of the people of Texas stands pledged to the preservation of a republican form of government, and, subject to this limitation only, they have at all times the inalienable right to alter, reform or abolish their government in such manner as they may think expedient./ *The Constitution of Texas, Article 1, Sect 2:* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Texas /All Americans are already living the American Dream - it's not just an economic, class, or status idea. //Everyone, rich or poor, is already living the dream, Barry2! Wake up and smell the coffee. / Try reading the article first before you comment. The professor disagrees with you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies...
Nope. Folks didn't react to Barry because they were offended as true believers. They were offended as human beings repulsed by the vile image of child abuse he invoked.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The female Derren Brown
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re Oh my God is that even legal!: That's what I thought. If I had been the producer of the show I might have refused to transmit that segment. And you have to wonder what the lawyers were thinking. If the victim had decided to sue the program for trauma suffered I'd have expected him to win his case. Presumably he felt the attraction of getting his 15 minutes of fame was a compensation he'd rather have. Definitely deeply disturbing viewing though. A lot of the people he pulls stunts like that on have previously applied to be on a show of his but were turned down. Or so they thought. One such person was approached by Derren in the street, hypnotised and told to hand over his life savings, which Derren bet on a single spin of a roulette wheel. And lost! Which was embarrassing and probably expensive for the production team but it was interesting to see how far he'd go in preparation. He had bought a wheel himself and spent months analysing speed of spin and how and where the ball was dropped affected the outcome. Finally he was confident he could guess a single spin correctly and off they went with secret cameras because casino's don't like that sort of thing. He was one number out, which was pretty damn good I thought. But no cigar. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re Did you see the one where he ran a management training course but trained them to commit armed robbery? Yep. That was very, very impressive! Re Or the one where he strolled round town mugging people by politely asking them for directions and then asking for their car keys and wallets!: Yes, again. That confusion technique is being used by criminal gangs to mug people for real. Now that we've seen Derren do it we wouldn't fall for it . . . would we? I like to think not but I know we all have different ways of reacting to unexpected interactions. Some of us freeze, some of us oblige and some realise something is wrong. Do we know which type we are beforehand? I remember in his 'Trick or Treat' series he would choose his victims from a questionnaire to work out how suited they were for his little games. My favourite was the one where he got a bright young girl and said that all she had to do was sit in a room for half an hour. The room had a window and some magazine to read but also had a kitten in a cage with big red button next to it. She was told she could do anything except push the red button because the kitten will die if she does. Then we sit and watch her go insane until, with a second to go, she pushed the button. Big electrical spark and bang and she collapses in shock, Derren rushes in to comfort her and reassure her the kitten isn't actually dead. But why couldn't she stop herself? He seems to play on the fact we don't know what our unconscious needs and responses really are, how he works it all out I don't know. I just hope his skills don't fall into enemy hands. Did you see the one where he zaps a guy playing a video game and then puts him into a real-life situation where he's being attacked by zombies? Follow this link (not for the faint-hearted) . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SYhYLt-Vgg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SYhYLt-Vgg Oh my God is that even legal! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re Like the man and woman with him touching things and her drawing them. How did she do that?: Search me. One possibility is that the camera crew following the old geezer can let her know what's being touched and she can then add subliminal suggestions in the chat she gives to his wife. (Don't forget we're seeing an *edited* version of what's going on.) The rest of the series (another three episodes) is also posted on YouTube and the others are even stronger than this first one. Yes, like you, although I'm entertained by this kind of mind control it is also a bit worrying that people can be so easily manipulated without being consciously aware of it. Makes you wonder how far we're being controlled in our everyday lives. Derren Brown could rule the world if he wanted to. Maybe he already does. Did you see the one where he ran a management training course but trained them to commit armed robbery without them knowing? And they did it. How scary was that! And on the last Channel 4 show he did he worked out someone's mobile phone number by doing card tricks! Or the one where he strolled round town mugging people by politely asking them for directions and then asking for their car keys and wallets! I love this psychological manipulation stuff, it makes me think there's a key to people you can work out and then do what you like but I'll bet
Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
On 11/29/2014 11:34 AM, raunchydog wrote: Geez, Barry.I thought you were joking about abusing babies just to push buttons of imaginary cult members the same as I am pushing your buttons about being a pervert.Abusing babies...wow!That was a real knee slapper, still ROTFLMAO.Pleeezze...call off the cops and I’ll never to make fun of you being a harmless little bunny again. Either Barry Wright is the biggest liar on the planet or Interpol is now watching Rick Archer and everyone else on this forum. Talk about a thought-stopper! Holy Grail - Killer Bunny http://youtu.be/XcxKIJTb3Hg image http://youtu.be/XcxKIJTb3Hg Holy Grail - Killer Bunny http://youtu.be/XcxKIJTb3Hg A clip from Monty Python's 'The Holy Grail' Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DUV7kZQcBofeature=watch_response View on youtu.be http://youtu.be/XcxKIJTb3Hg Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies...
Dude, you are acting exactly like danfriedman2002 here. You make a stupid, dumbshit statement on a forum which you are well aware, that it has abnormal members. Your statement also indirectly suggested that they would condone or overlook such a perversion. You case is a little shaky. What will you do if TMO slaps a lawsuit on you for libeling MMY and the believers? --- turquoiseb@... wrote : Nablus, I suggest that you drop this, because YOUR name, email address, and posting history here on the Fairfield Life group are now in the possession of the Dutch police. I tried to warn you earlier that this country takes a very hard line with people who attempt to harm others' reputations through malicious slander and cyberstalking, but obviously you weren't listening. You should listen now, because if you persist I will have no choice but to file formal criminal charges against you. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:22 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... Who knows how many have unsubscribed. Rick Archer has not yet had the balls to booth the butt-fucking-babies member. Meanwhile we'll se what the Leiden Police choose to do as searching his computers for child porn is too late, he had all Thursday night to get rid of everything. Have the child he is looking after taken in for a medical examination perhaps.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies...
You didn't post here after the neo format? Make sure you click the 'show message' tab below after you click the reply button. --- raunchydog@... wrote : Nope. Folks didn't react to Barry because they were offended as true believers. They were offended as human beings repulsed by the vile image of child abuse he invoked.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Curtis, do you really believe people are offended by Barry's button pushing because his target is Maharishi? C: I think that is at the heart of it. I say this because I often get personal insult responses to things I write here that are purely a critique of Maharishi and his teaching. Now if you are making a point that Barry also includes a bit of critique on the people who hold those beliefs, and that offends them I would go along with that. It wasn't about the babies on either side, that much I am clear about. R: Baby abuse in just an escalation of his usual button pushing MO, the image of which would offend the sensibilities of any normal human being irrespective of their affiliation with Maharishi. C: No babies were harmed in the posting. It was not suggested that babies should be harmed. It was a gross line but nothing that someone who watches South Park would be too alarmed at in the way it was being used. No need to clutch pearls. (tip of the hat to you.) R:Yes, I do see the difference between a personal accusation and satire, do you? C: I believe I was pointing that out myself, so yes. Even satire on dead public figures and living persons have different rules of engagement, or should IMO. R:Anyone reading my posts would have to be an idiot not to get the satire of my posts making fun of Barry. R: So you are making a case that people reading internet posts cannot be idiots? I'm sure you really do get the distinction I was making. As an isolated post it might have not taken on the Maharishi effect it achieved on top of more direct accusations. I do think you are a funny person Raunchy and I get your intent I think. R: BTW In response to Barry's faux victim outrage, C: Having been the target of a similar routine I am less inclined to see it as faux outrage. There is something really unsettling about seeing the intent of your words twisted into this accusation. You realize that someone wants to actually hurt your fer real real. R: I'm waiting for the Dutch police to come clattering after me in their wooden shoes. C: I am a fan of your clever humor Rauchy. Always have been.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies...
Personally, I don't react to an over the top fabrication like I do to reality. For example, I saw a picture online of a painting depicting Jesus raping a baby, and I laughed my ass off. OTOH, I'm completely horrified by this local story: Ottumwa Teen Arrested, Accused of Molesting Toddler on Video http://ottumwaeveningpost.com/9425/69474/a/ottumwa-teen-arrested-accused-of-molesting-toddler-on-video http://ottumwaeveningpost.com/9425/69474/a/ottumwa-teen-arrested-accused-of-molesting-toddler-on-video Ottumwa Teen Arrested, Accused of Molesting Toddl... http://ottumwaeveningpost.com/9425/69474/a/ottumwa-teen-arrested-accused-of-molesting-toddler-on-video Ottumwa Evening Post: Ottumwa Iowa's Free Online Newspaper. View on ottumwaeveningpost... http://ottumwaeveningpost.com/9425/69474/a/ottumwa-teen-arrested-accused-of-molesting-toddler-on-video Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchy...@yahoo.com wrote : Nope. Folks didn't react to Barry because they were offended as true believers. They were offended as human beings repulsed by the vile image of child abuse he invoked.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Nope. Folks didn't react to Barry because they were offended as true believers. They were offended as human beings repulsed by the vile image of child abuse he invoked. C: And you could be right on the cause of offense. It is what they did next that I condemn. Whatever your reaction to images being offered and read by choice here, the response shouldn't be accusations of despicable illegal acts aimed at the the writer. A person could just address how they feel about the image used without going that far to retaliate. To justify that kind of makes his original point.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : OMG, I had completely forgotten about the event tomorrow. I am so looking forward to your take on proceedings Curtis. I think when I checked it was happening in the middle of the night for us Brits but I hope I get to see or read both the Reesh's message to mankind and your analysis. Such fun! C: They intend to broadcast it and leave it up so I am hoping my analysis will not be the only one posted. My problem will be which direction to take it in, complete farce, or serious epistemological writing prompt. I am predicting a little of both because both are so ripe! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : I've watched this will some alarm because last time I was posting here I had to try to back down Jim and Nabby from creating fantasy ill-will scenarios about my personal life in response to me posting my opinions about Maharishi's teaching. It was an escalation of their MO since I began posting here. I am happy to see it resolved with Jim creating his own page while hilariously claiming that it was because OTHER people were not being civil here! I do not believe it will last any more than his participation on then other enlightened forum, but hope to be proven wrong. I think you were right to go the legal route because they were crossing a weird and disturbing line Barry. There is no parity between how you post here and what those guys were up to. FFL has gone through many different incarnations as strongly influential posters come and go. I viewed the end of the Judy era as a positive thing, but was disturbed to see how others escalated to fill the gap. Judy ran her routine in a much more interesting way IMO, so despite strongly dissagreing with her most of the time, I was entertained and prompted to write more many times because of her participation. That degraded in the era of the clique she led that involved the Share bashing era in the girl's locker room. Shit got weird and unpleasant, but worst of all boring. I don't know where FFL is headed now but I am an optimist. I intend to report on my experiences tomorrow at the event in Alexandria. Last I checked almost 800 people had reserved a seat. I had some contact with people from the old days who were kind enough to share their perspective. Although I remain a skeptic and am not really going with anything close to an open mind (overrated at this stage of my life I believe) I will go for the many layers of entertainment. One of the greatest aspects of the entertainment will be posting here about it. FFL has been a great resource for my thinking and writing. It has been so useful that I have put up with some people with unfriendly agendas against me here. It was the ticket for admission. OMG, I had completely forgotten about the event tomorrow. I am so looking forward to your take on proceedings Curtis. I think when I checked it was happening in the middle of the night for us Brits but I hope I get to see or read both the Reesh's message to mankind and your analysis. Such fun! Sorry to see things spiral out so far here but I am encouraged to see the changes.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
Richard, ha! If Interpol is watching FFL, they better dang well be watching our
beloved Lurking Reporters too!
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
On 11/29/2014 11:34 AM, raunchydog wrote:
Geez, Barry. I thought you were joking about abusing babies just to
push buttons of imaginary cult members the same as I am pushing your buttons
about being a pervert. Abusing babies...wow! That was a real knee slapper,
still ROTFLMAO. Pleeezze...call off the cops and I’ll never to make fun of you
being a harmless little bunny again.
Either Barry Wright is the biggest liar on the planet or Interpol is now
watching Rick Archer and everyone else on this forum. Talk about a
thought-stopper!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies...
On 11/29/2014 11:57 AM, s3raphita wrote: */Re filing of actual criminal charges:/* */ /* Don't US courts refuse to extradite their own citizens to the law in foreign jurisdictions? Or at least make it damned difficult? /The person that should be worried about the law should probably be the guy that's living as a guest worker in a foreign country, not the ones playing the word game and living in the U.S. If he did actually file charges with Interpol, anything he posted //online concerning this subject is not going to look very good at the Hague, NE immigration department, no matter how innocent he may be and just wanted to push a few buttons. If I were him, I'd just keep my big pie hole shut and just hide out for awhile and think things over. That's what I did after a few misfits here accused me of beastiality, being a perv and posing as a pedophile priest. I don't see anyone on the forum apologizing to me. But, I never once thought of going to the police to complain. I figure if you're going to play with fire, you should be able to take the heat if you get burned or if something backfires on you. I guess we can pretty well conclude now that there is an informant among us reporting everything we say to the authorities. I tried to warn everyone about this for years but nobody wanted to listen. / //These episodes would probably never happen if the forum had an active moderator. It's been obvious to me for years that some of the respondents on this forum are racists, prejudiced and hypocritical, to say the least./ /// We don't need no revolution - we already had one and the people won. /All we need to believe in is that we are all equal and that we all have the same opportunity to get realized, or not. / */ /* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, if I apologize, what's included is an intention to avoid doing the hurtful behavior in the future. Heck we all do awful stuff sometimes. I think it's a valid part of relating to others that we acknowledge our part in their upset and then soldier on. Yes, the operative word here is IF. Trouble is these days a lot of people think that because they are offended by something it automatically follows that someone has done something wrong and should apologise. It seems like simply being offended gives them the right to control other's opinions. Beats me. */Worse, in this Age of New Age Narcissism, they feel that they have the right to inflict *their* opinions on others. In the most recent case here on Fairfield Life, my choice of words pushed the buttons of a few cultists so badly that they began to imagine things about me that aren't true. This is nothing new, but then -- probably because they're so USED to taking their own fantasies seriously and treating them as Truth Incarnate -- they started to act those fantasies out on this forum and accuse me of things. The things that they have brainwashed themselves to believe about me aren't true, but they are volatile enough that if I had allowed them to go unresponded-to, the resulting libel and defamation could potentially have a negative impact on my family. /* */Fortunately for me (and unfortunately for the two people who have chosen to defame me), one of our close family friends here in the Netherlands IS a cop, and furthermore one who works in the anti-cyberterrorism group. We know him from a local Meetup discussion group, of which we've all been members for some time. /* */ /* */So yesterday I explained the situation to him and, to my surprise, his first question to me was, By any chance, are these people who are trying to insinuate that you are a child molestor members of a religious cult? Somewhat taken aback, I said Yes, and then he explained that the reason he asked is that this (using the Internet to attempt to brand someone as a sex criminal, especially in regard to children) was a favorite tactic used by cults they are tracking in the Netherlands (especially $cientology, but also some extreme Christian cults). /* */ /* */He advised me to take this action by Nabby and Jim Flanegin more seriously, and walked me through the steps of doing so. Here in the Netherlands, it's a two-step process. First I notify the proper division of the police about the cyberstalking, giving them the email addresses of the stalkers and forwarding to them examples of all defamatory posts or emails they have sent. This officially puts them on a Watch List, and causes Interpol and other agencies to flag any traffic coming from these addresses for further scrutiny. /* */ /* */This has been done. If they wise up and drop this stupidity, I will never need to take it to step two, which is the filing of actual criminal charges. Note that the words criminal charges are exact in this situation -- my friend made it
Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
I was going to particpate on the Hammond deal, but I may choose to spend that
time with my daughter. As to Jimmie's new group - I'll pass - it will only work
if people there love to watch someone babble about their own enlightenment and
see that it's a fabrication.
From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
I've watched this will some alarm because last time I was posting here I
had to try to back down Jim and Nabby from creating fantasy ill-will scenarios
about my personal life in response to me posting my opinions about Maharishi's
teaching. It was an escalation of their MO since I began posting here. I am
happy to see it resolved with Jim creating his own page while hilariously
claiming that it was because OTHER people were not being civil here! I do not
believe it will last any more than his participation on then other
enlightened forum, but hope to be proven wrong.
I think you were right to go the legal route because they were crossing a weird
and disturbing line Barry. There is no parity between how you post here and
what those guys were up to.
FFL has gone through many different incarnations as strongly influential
posters come and go. I viewed the end of the Judy era as a positive thing, but
was disturbed to see how others escalated to fill the gap. Judy ran her routine
in a much more interesting way IMO, so despite strongly dissagreing with her
most of the time, I was entertained and prompted to write more many times
because of her participation. That degraded in the era of the clique she led
that involved the Share bashing era in the girl's locker room. Shit got weird
and unpleasant, but worst of all boring.
I don't know where FFL is headed now but I am an optimist. I intend to report
on my experiences tomorrow at the event in Alexandria. Last I checked almost
800 people had reserved a seat. I had some contact with people from the old
days who were kind enough to share their perspective. Although I remain a
skeptic and am not really going with anything close to an open mind
(overrated at this stage of my life I believe) I will go for the many layers of
entertainment. One of the greatest aspects of the entertainment will be posting
here about it. FFL has been a great resource for my thinking and writing. It
has been so useful that I have put up with some people with unfriendly agendas
against me here. It was the ticket for admission.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: porno vid
On 11/29/2014 12:13 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Re Sigmund Freud . . . significant meaning behind his cigar smoking -///Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.:/ / / Alas, although it is a great quote Sigmund never said it. In fact, he being a heavy smoker implies that, according to his own pet theory, Freud was an oral type. /The statement is probably apocryphal - it is probably the ultimate anti-Freudian joke. This statement about the cigar was apparently also written by the author Harlan Ellison. He was decrying the fact that people were always looking for heavy symbolism in his works, and so he said sometimes a cigar is just a cigar!/ / / /ORAL PERSONALITY: According to the original theories of psychoanalysis, a personality fixed emotionally in the oral stage of development, whose sexual and aggressive drives are satisfied by putting things in his or her mouth. Depending on when the fixation occurs, oral personalities tend to be either optimistic, generous, and gregarious or aggressive, ambitious, and selfish. / ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/28/2014 8:24 PM, srijau@... mailto:srijau@... wrote: Toronto photographer’s ‘skyline porn’ video goes viral http://www.680news.com/2014/11/28/toronto-photographers-skyline-porn-video-goes-viral/ This search for significant meanings where none are to be found recalls the reply made by Sigmund Freud to overzealous disciples who felt that there must be a significant meaning behind his cigar smoking -///Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar./ / /
Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
Now that is something I can't understand - how former TM teachers could be
afraid of reprisals of some kind for saying stuff about Marshy or the TMO.
Why? How? I mean look at how inept the Movement has been in suing ACTIVE former
TM teachers such as the folks in the UK Chris Greathead and Colin Beckley who
founded the Meditation Trust and Transcendental Meditation Independent.
So what does a non teaching former TM teacher have to fear from the popinjays
of the Movement? Unless you might want to get on a course now and again - then
I can see it.
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
It was Judy who brought that phrase about being open minded, attributed to
her dad, after I accused her of being close minded on a topic.
What is happening to FFL is we are getting old and cranky. Some of us are
approaching our 70s and some are already there. And we have some that are a
generation younger (apparently Salyavin and MJ).
It is kinda unusual to watch a group fly this out of control. Usually
moderators will keep things civil but then there's nothing like a free for
all either. Some of us like to keep our anonymity because we don't want
(having been TM teachers) unwarranted reprisals from the TMO. Even Judy
recommended it.
But anyway the places also has to keep up it's appearances as a loony bin
which doesn't seem to hard to do. :-D
On 11/29/2014 09:33 AM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
I am just trying to keep from being so open minded that my brains fall
out!
Glad it made you laugh.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Curtis, I'm still LOLing as I reply. What got me laughing was your comment
about what is overrated at this stage of life. Being vague so others can enjoy
it for themselves... Have fun tomorrow and I look forward to your report.
From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
I've watched this will some alarm because last time I was posting here
I had to try to back down Jim and Nabby from creating fantasy ill-will
scenarios about my personal life in response to me posting my opinions about
Maharishi's teaching. It was an escalation of their MO since I began posting
here. I am happy to see it resolved with Jim creating his own page while
hilariously claiming that it was because OTHER people were not being civil
here! I do not believe it will last any more than his participation on then
other enlightened forum, but hope to be proven wrong.
I think you were right to go the legal route because they were crossing a
weird and disturbing line Barry. There is no parity between how you post here
and what those guys were up to.
FFL has gone through many different incarnations as strongly influential
posters come and go. I viewed the end of the Judy era as a positive thing, but
was disturbed to see how others escalated to fill the gap. Judy ran her
routine in a much more interesting way IMO, so despite strongly dissagreing
with her most of the time, I was entertained and prompted to write more many
times because of her participation. That degraded in the era of the clique she
led that involved the Share bashing era in the girl's locker room. Shit got
weird and unpleasant, but worst of all boring.
I don't know where FFL is headed now but I am an optimist. I intend to report
on my experiences tomorrow at the event in Alexandria. Last I checked almost
800 people had reserved a seat. I had some contact with people from the old
days who were kind enough to share their perspective. Although I remain a
skeptic and am not really going with anything close to an open mind
(overrated at this stage of my life I believe) I will go for the many layers of
entertainment. One of the greatest aspects of the entertainment will be
posting here about it. FFL has been a great resource for my thinking and
writing. It has been so useful that I have put up with some people with
unfriendly agendas against me here. It was the ticket for admission.
Sorry to see things spiral out so far here but I am encouraged to see the
changes.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
How are innocent young souls like me and MJ going to learn what's right with
the type of role models we've got here?
Ha ha! Good one Sal!! I'm 58 now meself.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
It was Judy who brought that phraseabout being open minded, attributed to her
dad, after I accusedher of being close minded on a topic.
What is happening to FFL is we are getting old and cranky. Someof us are
approaching our 70s and some are already there. And wehave some that are a
generation younger (apparently Salyavin andMJ).
Yes, and I must say you lot aren't being a very good influence. How are
innocent young souls like me and MJ going to learn what's right with the type
of role models we've got here?
It is kinda unusual to watch a group fly this out of control. Usually
moderators will keep things civil but then there's nothinglike a free for all
either. Some of us like to keep ouranonymity because we don't want (having
been TM teachers)unwarranted reprisals from the TMO. Even Judy recommended it.
I think it's been quite civil actually, just a few resignations in protest and
a few lawsuit threats. Could have been a lot worse. I blame all the spiritual
detachment we have.
But anyway the place also has to keep up it's appearances as aloony bin which
doesn't seem to hard to do. :-D
Remember, it's entirely your decision whether you are inside or outside the
asylum!
On 11/29/2014 09:33 AM, curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife]wrote:
I am just trying to keep from being so open minded thatmy brains fall out!
Glad it made you laugh.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,sharelong60@... wrote :
Curtis,I'm still LOLing as I reply. What got me laughingwas your comment about
what is overrated at thisstage of life. Being vague so others can enjoy itfor
themselves...Have fun tomorrow and I look forward toyour report.
From:curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife]FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent:Saturday, November 29, 2014 10:47 AM
Subject:Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
I'vewatched this will some alarm becauselast time I was posting here I hadto
try to back down Jim and Nabbyfrom creating fantasy ill-willscenarios about my
personal life inresponse to me posting my opinionsabout Maharishi's teaching.
It wasan escalation of their MO since Ibegan posting here. I am happy tosee it
resolved with Jim creatinghis own page while hilariouslyclaiming that it was
because OTHERpeople were not being civil here! Ido not believe it will last any
morethan his participation on then otherenlightened forum, but hope to
beproven wrong.
I think you were right to go thelegal route because they werecrossing a weird
and disturbing lineBarry. There is no parity betweenhow you post here and what
thoseguys were up to.
FFL has gone through many differentincarnations as strongly influentialposters
come and go. I viewed theend of the Judy era as a positivething, but was
disturbed to see howothers escalated to fill the gap.Judy ran her routine in a
much moreinteresting way IMO, so despitestrongly dissagreing with her mostof
the time, I was entertained andprompted to write more many timesbecause of her
participation. Thatdegraded in the era of the cliqueshe led that involved the
Sharebashing era in the girl's lockerroom. Shit got weird and unpleasant,but
worst of all boring.
I don't know where FFL is headed nowbut I am an optimist. I intend toreport on
my experiences tomorrow atthe event in Alexandria. Last Ichecked almost 800
people hadreserved a seat. I had some contactwith people from the old days
whowere kind enough to share theirperspective. Although I remain askeptic and
am not really going withanything close to an open mind(overrated at this
stage of my lifeI believe) I will go for the manylayers of entertainment. One
of thegreatest aspects of theentertainment will be posting hereabout it. FFL
has been a greatresource for my thinking andwriting. It has been so useful
thatI have put up with some people withunfriendly agendas against me here.It
was the ticket for admission.
Sorry to see things spiral out sofar here but I am encouraged to seethe
changes.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
On 11/29/2014 12:00 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Some of us like to keep our anonymity because we don't want (having been TM teachers) unwarranted reprisals from the TMO. Even Judy recommended it. /There's no reason I would be concerned about any reprisals from the TMO, but just the same I was kind of surprised when Barry outed my real name on a.m.t - for no apparent reason at all. I just chalked it up to a personal bias of his based on my birth circumstances. It was only later that I realized that he was from Texas too and that he had a clear case of cognitive dissonance. So, I've come to expect very little justice and real honesty from any of the respondents on these forums posting anonymously. Hiding behind an alias and posting prejudiced statements seems to be par for the course, yourself included./ / That's just the way some people are I guess - they can't or won't take ownership of their own words. Go figure./ But anyway the places also has to keep up it's appearances as a loony bin which doesn't seem to hard to do. :-D On 11/29/2014 09:33 AM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I am just trying to keep from being so open minded that my brains fall out! Glad it made you laugh. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Curtis, I'm still LOLing as I reply. What got me laughing was your comment about what is overrated at this stage of life. Being vague so others can enjoy it for themselves... Have fun tomorrow and I look forward to your report. *From:* curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 10:47 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... I've watched this will some alarm because last time I was posting here I had to try to back down Jim and Nabby from creating fantasy ill-will scenarios about my personal life in response to me posting my opinions about Maharishi's teaching. It was an escalation of their MO since I began posting here. I am happy to see it resolved with Jim creating his own page while hilariously claiming that it was because OTHER people were not being civil here! I do not believe it will last any more than his participation on then other enlightened forum, but hope to be proven wrong. I think you were right to go the legal route because they were crossing a weird and disturbing line Barry. There is no parity between how you post here and what those guys were up to. FFL has gone through many different incarnations as strongly influential posters come and go. I viewed the end of the Judy era as a positive thing, but was disturbed to see how others escalated to fill the gap. Judy ran her routine in a much more interesting way IMO, so despite strongly dissagreing with her most of the time, I was entertained and prompted to write more many times because of her participation. That degraded in the era of the clique she led that involved the Share bashing era in the girl's locker room. Shit got weird and unpleasant, but worst of all boring. I don't know where FFL is headed now but I am an optimist. I intend to report on my experiences tomorrow at the event in Alexandria. Last I checked almost 800 people had reserved a seat. I had some contact with people from the old days who were kind enough to share their perspective. Although I remain a skeptic and am not really going with anything close to an open mind (overrated at this stage of my life I believe) I will go for the many layers of entertainment. One of the greatest aspects of the entertainment will be posting here about it. FFL has been a great resource for my thinking and writing. It has been so useful that I have put up with some people with unfriendly agendas against me here. It was the ticket for admission. Sorry to see things spiral out so far here but I am encouraged to see the changes.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies...
On 11/29/2014 12:47 PM, raunchy...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Raunchy, I agree that Barry is a degenerate filth and a rotten piece of shit. But, he cleverly worded his statement in such a way that it would seem to general readers, that true blue believers would condone such an act (whether by maharishi or anyone else). In other words, he seems to be implying that true believers are perverts or fools, as they would condone such an act. I think this provoked Jim and Ann. Nope. Folks didn't react to Barry because they were offended as true believers. They were offended as human beings repulsed by the vile image of child abuse he invoked. /What Barry posted was probably intentionally nuanced, but I've got to say it was a very strange metaphor to use on a public forum discussing spiritual paths, considering how almost anything can be taken out of context and used against him. But,I've come to expect that from Barry - not for nothing did he call himself the Uncle Tantra for a decade or more. It was almost like he was so engrossed in winning a religious argument that he lost all sense of propriety and common sense. I can't take sides in this since, as far as I'm concerned, almost everyone on this fourm has said something derogatory about me, but I'm not going to call the cops on anyone. I'll let others be the informants and I'll just continue to post information, or I won't. /
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kubrick The Illuminati
Thanks, it's most interesting to see all the Masonic symbolism that I didn't notice before. Or is it not realy there and we are just getting a power of suggestion thing now that it's been pointed out? I haven't watched it all yet but I can add a bit to the Rothschild story. The house the orgy scene from Eyes Wide Shut was filmed in was indeed a Rothschild home but the one shown at 3.31 is Mentmore Towers, owned by the TMO at the time, and not the same one where the actual sexy bits were filmed. Kubric was apparently a bit of a character and wanted to knock down the main supporting wall inside Mentmore because he wanted the room to be 20 feet larger! The guy in charge of location work said that, of course he could knock the wall down as long as he rebuilt it perfectly! Even Kubrick balked at that idea and ended up moving to the Rothschild house down the road to complete the filming, only using the exterior shots of our pad in the final cut. The Rothschild's had loads of homes, they thought it would be a wheeze to be able to see them all from each other, and you can indeed see each one from the grounds of next. Hard life. Everyone at the Towers was upset when they heard that the orgy scene was set to someone reciting the Bhagavad Gita. Great place to live though, I really enjoyed the filming work there, I remember bumping into John Thaw when I was going to breakfast once, and I opened the door to Michael Cain when he was filming Quills about the Marquis De Sade. Gave a bit of colour to the day! They were both really friendly and didn't mind us watching them acting. The director of Quills was overjoyed with Mentmore, he said he could film the grandiose palace scenes in the main hall and the seedy brothel scenes in the staff quarters. LOL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Was film director Stanley Kubrick killed for attempting to blow the whistle on the Illuminati? This documentary examines the conspiracy theory. Scientology, of course, gets a star billing - as did Tom Cruise in Eyes Wide Shut. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WAjdhWOMGI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WAjdhWOMGI
Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : How are innocent young souls like me and MJ going to learn what's right with the type of role models we've got here? Ha ha! Good one Sal!! I'm 58 now meself. I'd better tell my Mum I've fallen in with a bad crowd... From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : It was Judy who brought that phrase about being open minded, attributed to her dad, after I accused her of being close minded on a topic. What is happening to FFL is we are getting old and cranky. Some of us are approaching our 70s and some are already there. And we have some that are a generation younger (apparently Salyavin and MJ). Yes, and I must say you lot aren't being a very good influence. How are innocent young souls like me and MJ going to learn what's right with the type of role models we've got here? It is kinda unusual to watch a group fly this out of control. Usually moderators will keep things civil but then there's nothing like a free for all either. Some of us like to keep our anonymity because we don't want (having been TM teachers) unwarranted reprisals from the TMO. Even Judy recommended it. I think it's been quite civil actually, just a few resignations in protest and a few lawsuit threats. Could have been a lot worse. I blame all the spiritual detachment we have. But anyway the place also has to keep up it's appearances as a loony bin which doesn't seem to hard to do. :-D Remember, it's entirely your decision whether you are inside or outside the asylum! On 11/29/2014 09:33 AM, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I am just trying to keep from being so open minded that my brains fall out! Glad it made you laugh. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Curtis, I'm still LOLing as I reply. What got me laughing was your comment about what is overrated at this stage of life. Being vague so others can enjoy it for themselves... Have fun tomorrow and I look forward to your report. From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:curtisdeltablues@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... I've watched this will some alarm because last time I was posting here I had to try to back down Jim and Nabby from creating fantasy ill-will scenarios about my personal life in response to me posting my opinions about Maharishi's teaching. It was an escalation of their MO since I began posting here. I am happy to see it resolved with Jim creating his own page while hilariously claiming that it was because OTHER people were not being civil here! I do not believe it will last any more than his participation on then other enlightened forum, but hope to be proven wrong. I think you were right to go the legal route because they were crossing a weird and disturbing line Barry. There is no parity between how you post here and what those guys were up to. FFL has gone through many different incarnations as strongly influential posters come and go. I viewed the end of the Judy era as a positive thing, but was disturbed to see how others escalated to fill the gap. Judy ran her routine in a much more interesting way IMO, so despite strongly dissagreing with her most of the time, I was entertained and prompted to write more many times because of her participation. That degraded in the era of the clique she led that involved the Share bashing era in the girl's locker room. Shit got weird and unpleasant, but worst of all boring. I don't know where FFL is headed now but I am an optimist. I intend to report on my experiences tomorrow at the event in Alexandria. Last I checked almost 800 people had reserved a seat. I had some contact with people from the old days who were kind enough to share their perspective. Although I remain a skeptic and am not really going with anything close to an open mind (overrated at this stage of my life I believe) I will go for the many layers of entertainment. One of the greatest aspects of the entertainment will be posting here about it. FFL has been a great resource for my thinking and writing. It has been so useful that I have put up with some people with unfriendly agendas against me here. It was the ticket for admission. Sorry to see things spiral out so far here but I am encouraged to see the changes.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies...
On 11/29/2014 12:56 PM, jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Dude, you are acting exactly like danfriedman2002 here. You make a stupid, dumbshit statement on a forum which you are well aware, that it has abnormal members. Your statement also indirectly suggested that they would condone or overlook such a perversion. You case is a little shaky. What will you do if TMO slaps a lawsuit on you for libeling MMY and the believers? /You are assuming that people think before they post their messages, Jason. In many cases it's just their chronic prejudice showing - they can't help it, that's who they are. There is a pattern here: Barry reported me to Rick, the owner of the site, for jesting about the anonymous Michael Jackson not putting enough cannabis in the cookies he baked at MIU, which was clearly a joke. So, Barry thought he'd get me banned from the group by sending Rick a private email. //I///already told you we have an informant on the list - and that was no joke. /There is some serious cognitive dissonance going on in Barry's brain. Just today he accused me of lying when anyone can see I copied and pasted his own quoted words. Go figure. http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg338227.html / --- turquoiseb@... wrote : *Nablus, I suggest that you drop this, because YOUR name, email address, and posting history here on the Fairfield Life group are now in the possession of the Dutch police. I tried to warn you earlier that this country takes a very hard line with people who attempt to harm others' reputations through malicious slander and cyberstalking, but obviously you weren't listening. You should listen now, because if you persist I will have no choice but to file formal criminal charges against you. * *From:* nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:22 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... Who knows how many have unsubscribed. Rick Archer has not yet had the balls to booth the butt-fucking-babies member. Meanwhile we'll se what the Leiden Police choose to do as searching his computers for child porn is too late, he had all Thursday night to get rid of everything. Have the child he is looking after taken in for a medical examination perhaps.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies...
The Movement is a bullshit organization that defrauds people of their money and
ruins their lives in many case. They wanna come after me, let 'em come on.
Their master Mahesh Prasad the Varmit was a liar, cheat, con artist and fraud.
Let 'em come on.
As to Barry, his point has ALREADY been proven in the persons of people like
Jerry Jarvis who were around Mahesh the Varmit enough to know of his enormities
and deny them all. How could people like Mark Landau, Billy Clayton, Connie
Larson, Rob McCutchan and others see that Marshy was lying about being a life
long celibate and others like Jarvis adamantly and utterly deny any of it ever
happened?
People on this FFL forum have stated things like Well, even if he did have
sex, that just makes him more human in my eyes. rather than using their minds
and common sense and say That little liar! Wonder what else he lied about?
Barry is right - a true believer will find any number of ways to wiggle out of
looking straight at the facts about cherished beliefs and the people they look
up to.
I like Rick for a number of reasons but even Rick has said things like Marshy's
words, what he professed and what he actually did were different and Rick calls
things like that a paradox.
The difference between what Marshy said and what he did is not a paradox in any
way shape or form, it is a contradiction, and an assault on decent human
values. Marshy lied, he committed fraud on a grand scale and what is worse, he
damaged a lot of lives in the process, with apparently no remorse whatsoever.
Marshy's teaching including his interpretation of the experience of meditation
was based on his definition of enlightenment. He gave that definition in terms
the people with a Judeo-Christian background could understand then he turned
around and violated his teaching. This is not spiritual rocket science, it is
spirituality 101 - calling what Marshy did on all levels a paradox is
sidestepping the responsibility to deal with the truth.
The fact that some people like TM and feel they got something out of it and
something out of their connection to Marshy no more negates or makes his other
behaviors a paradox than if you are married to someone you love and they cheat
on you. They may be lovable but they also violated their connection to you and
their agreements with you.
If you are in business with someone you love and respect and they take off with
the company funds, its not a paradox, they committed a crime against you and
everyone connected to the company - calling it a paradox is ignoring the truth.
So let the lying jackasses who run the Movement come after me for saying these
things - we'll see how they hold up in court, I would love nothing better than
to have Hagelin and Morriss squirming in the court in front of a judge and
jury.
From: jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:56 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies...
Dude, you are acting exactly like danfriedman2002 here.
You make a stupid, dumbshit statement on a forum which you
are well aware, that it has abnormal members. Your
statement also indirectly suggested that they would condone
or overlook such a perversion.
You case is a little shaky. What will you do if TMO slaps a
lawsuit on you for libeling MMY and the believers?
--- turquoiseb@... wrote :
Nablus, I suggest that you drop this, because YOUR name, email address, and
posting history here on the Fairfield Life group are now in the possession of
the Dutch police. I tried to warn you earlier that this country takes a very
hard line with people who attempt to harm others' reputations through malicious
slander and cyberstalking, but obviously you weren't listening. You should
listen now, because if you persist I will have no choice but to file formal
criminal charges against you.
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:22 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
Who knows how many have unsubscribed. Rick Archer has not yet had the balls to
booth the butt-fucking-babies member. Meanwhile we'll se what the Leiden
Police choose to do as searching his computers for child porn is too late, he
had all Thursday night to get rid of everything. Have the child he is looking
after taken in for a medical examination perhaps.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
On 11/29/2014 1:07 PM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Curtis, do you really believe people are offended by Barry's button pushing because his target is Maharishi? C: I think that is at the heart of it. I say this because I often get personal insult responses to things I write here that are purely a critique of Maharishi and his teaching. Now if you are making a point that Barry also includes a bit of critique on the people who hold those beliefs, and that offends them I would go along with that. It wasn't about the babies on either side, that much I am clear about. R: Baby abuse in just an escalation of his usual button pushing MO, the image of which would offend the sensibilities of any normal human being irrespective of their affiliation with Maharishi. C: No babies were harmed in the posting. It was not suggested that babies should be harmed. It was a gross line but nothing that someone who watches South Park would be too alarmed at in the way it was being used. No need to clutch pearls. (tip of the hat to you.) R:Yes, I do see the difference between a personal accusation and satire, do you? C: I believe I was pointing that out myself, so yes. Even satire on dead public figures and living persons have different rules of engagement, or should IMO. So, what are the rules Curtis, and who gets to set them, quoting Barry. There does seem to be some forked tongues around here today. Just for the record, I've never harmed a baby and only once have I ever fucked over a rodent. And that was because it tried to hide in my attic and have babies, so I caught it in a trap; threw it out of the window onto the driveway - and then I ran over it with my car. But, I didn't call the police. / //Willy, since fucking prairie dogs or whatever you do with your time// //doesn't seem to fill enough of it lately.../ Subject: Open Letter To Willytex From: Uncle Tantra Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: 2003-08-06 08:53:26 PST R:Anyone reading my posts would have to be an idiot not to get the satire of my posts making fun of Barry. R: So you are making a case that people reading internet posts cannot be idiots? I'm sure you really do get the distinction I was making. As an isolated post it might have not taken on the Maharishi effect it achieved on top of more direct accusations. I do think you are a funny person Raunchy and I get your intent I think. R: BTW In response to Barry's faux victim outrage, C: Having been the target of a similar routine I am less inclined to see it as faux outrage. There is something really unsettling about seeing the intent of your words twisted into this accusation. You realize that someone wants to actually hurt your fer real real. R: I'm waiting for the Dutch police to come clattering after me in their wooden shoes. C: I am a fan of your clever humor Rauchy. Always have been.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
On 11/29/2014 1:27 PM, Share Long wrote: Richard, ha! If Interpol is watching FFL, they better dang well be watching our beloved Lurking Reporters too! /This has got to be the clearest instance of cognitive dissonance I've ever read on social media!/ / Everyone already knows Barry doesn't have a baby named Maya. //O///ne of the first rules of online social dialog is to NEVER reveal anything about your own family relations without their knowledge or permission. (Rita is not my wife's real name - I only use that for satirical purposes, but she is really gorgeous). ///It wasn't a joke, Share, when Barry posted that he was reporting directly to a lurking reporter at his favorite cafe. Now we know who and what the reporter really was - the local police. The real question is how much is he getting paid? ///The real question is, why would Barry want to bring down Rick Archer?/ Obviously this whole episode was a false flag planted by an anti-cult informant in order to provoke some poor TMers into saying something in response. Only an expert with decades of practice on social media could pull off this kind of hoax - he even managed to hypnotize a few otherwise reasonable members of the forum to believe he was genuinely offended by his very own statements. Go figure. Apparently Barry will do almost anything to get back at his fantasy enemies, up to and including posting inflammatory messages to test his skills at provocation and then claiming to fink on them to Interpol.It's a trick he obviously learned due to his close ties with military intelligence.//Not for nothing did he hang around U.S. Air Force bases most of his adolescent life. Where is Judy when we really need her? For Gawd's sake Judy - please help us before we all get arrested and Barry gets deported back to the U.S.!!!/ *From:* 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:56 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... On 11/29/2014 11:34 AM, raunchydog wrote: Geez, Barry.I thought you were joking about abusing babies just to push buttons of imaginary cult members the same as I am pushing your buttons about being a pervert.Abusing babies...wow!That was a real knee slapper, still ROTFLMAO.Pleeezze...call off the cops and I’ll never to make fun of you being a harmless little bunny again. Either Barry Wright is the biggest liar on the planet or Interpol is now watching Rick Archer and everyone else on this forum. Talk about a thought-stopper! Holy Grail - Killer Bunny http://youtu.be/XcxKIJTb3Hg image http://youtu.be/XcxKIJTb3Hg Holy Grail - Killer Bunny http://youtu.be/XcxKIJTb3Hg A clip from Monty Python's 'The Holy Grail' Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DUV7kZQcBofeature=watch_response View on youtu.be http://youtu.be/XcxKIJTb3Hg Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
On 11/29/2014 10:14 AM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : It was Judy who brought that phrase about being open minded, attributed to her dad, after I accused her of being close minded on a topic. C: I didn't get if from Judy or her dad. We all got it from someplace else, it is a common saying. The skeptics use it a lot which is most likely my source. James Randi used it a lot. Judy said her dad used to say it and yeah probably a lot of people used it. But I run into people who just mentally close up before you can get your full argument out. N: What is happening to FFL is we are getting old and cranky. Some of us are approaching our 70s and some are already there. And we have some that are a generation younger (apparently Salyavin and MJ). It is kinda unusual to watch a group fly this out of control. Usually moderators will keep things civil but then there's nothing like a free for all either. Some of us like to keep our anonymity because we don't want (having been TM teachers) unwarranted reprisals from the TMO. Even Judy recommended it. But anyway the places also has to keep up it's appearances as a loony bin which doesn't seem to hard to do. :-D C: I think it has worked pretty well as an unmoderated discussion group with a few exceptions. I can only think of a few times when it seemed to go over what I consider a reasonable line. I don't mind if someone calls me names here about being stupid or unevolved because of my perspective. I consider all of that a version of poopy pants and believe it weakens their argument against my points. It says this is all I got. So if a moderator jumped in on that kind of personal attack it would take away what i consider to be evidence of my points not being refuted by reason. That works for me. I was always opposed to posting limits and only wrote the counter software since people were having a hard time keeping track of posts. Most moderators would have given time outs to people graffitizing the group. People will do that still on some of the newsgroups but the Thunderbird newsreader probably the option to just ignore thread and you never see the rest of their posts again (they're usually the only ones replying to it anyway). On 11/29/2014 09:33 AM, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I am just trying to keep from being so open minded that my brains fall out! Glad it made you laugh. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Curtis, I'm still LOLing as I reply. What got me laughing was your comment about what is overrated at this stage of life. Being vague so others can enjoy it for themselves... Have fun tomorrow and I look forward to your report. *From:* curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:curtisdeltablues@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 10:47 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... I've watched this will some alarm because last time I was posting here I had to try to back down Jim and Nabby from creating fantasy ill-will scenarios about my personal life in response to me posting my opinions about Maharishi's teaching. It was an escalation of their MO since I began posting here. I am happy to see it resolved with Jim creating his own page while hilariously claiming that it was because OTHER people were not being civil here! I do not believe it will last any more than his participation on then other enlightened forum, but hope to be proven wrong. I think you were right to go the legal route because they were crossing a weird and disturbing line Barry. There is no parity between how you post here and what those guys were up to. FFL has gone through many different incarnations as strongly influential posters come and go. I viewed the end of the Judy era as a positive thing, but was disturbed to see how others escalated to fill the gap. Judy ran her routine in a much more interesting way IMO, so despite strongly dissagreing with her most of the time, I was entertained and prompted to write more many times because of her participation. That degraded in the era of the clique she led that involved the Share bashing era in the girl's locker room. Shit got weird and unpleasant, but worst of all boring. I don't know where FFL is headed now but I am an optimist. I intend to report on my experiences tomorrow at the event in Alexandria. Last I checked almost 800 people had reserved a seat.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
On 11/29/2014 1:47 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: I was going to particpate on the Hammond deal, but I may choose to spend that time with my daughter. As to Jimmie's new group - I'll pass - it will only work if people there love to watch someone babble about their own enlightenment and see that it's a fabrication. /Will you please stop posting this bullshit - we know you don't have a daughter to spend time with, and we already know you are lurking on Jim's new forum so you can report back here and to John Knapp on TM-Free. Do you think we are that dumb?/ *From:* curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 11:47 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... I've watched this will some alarm because last time I was posting here I had to try to back down Jim and Nabby from creating fantasy ill-will scenarios about my personal life in response to me posting my opinions about Maharishi's teaching. It was an escalation of their MO since I began posting here. I am happy to see it resolved with Jim creating his own page while hilariously claiming that it was because OTHER people were not being civil here! I do not believe it will last any more than his participation on then other enlightened forum, but hope to be proven wrong. I think you were right to go the legal route because they were crossing a weird and disturbing line Barry. There is no parity between how you post here and what those guys were up to. FFL has gone through many different incarnations as strongly influential posters come and go. I viewed the end of the Judy era as a positive thing, but was disturbed to see how others escalated to fill the gap. Judy ran her routine in a much more interesting way IMO, so despite strongly dissagreing with her most of the time, I was entertained and prompted to write more many times because of her participation. That degraded in the era of the clique she led that involved the Share bashing era in the girl's locker room. Shit got weird and unpleasant, but worst of all boring. I don't know where FFL is headed now but I am an optimist. I intend to report on my experiences tomorrow at the event in Alexandria. Last I checked almost 800 people had reserved a seat. I had some contact with people from the old days who were kind enough to share their perspective. Although I remain a skeptic and am not really going with anything close to an open mind (overrated at this stage of my life I believe) I will go for the many layers of entertainment. One of the greatest aspects of the entertainment will be posting here about it. FFL has been a great resource for my thinking and writing. It has been so useful that I have put up with some people with unfriendly agendas against me here. It was the ticket for admission. Sorry to see things spiral out so far here but I am encouraged to see the changes.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies...
Richard, it's probably good not to take it personally. ESPECIALLY when they
mean it personally.PS If I've ever said anything negative about you, hope
you'll forgive me.
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies...
On 11/29/2014 12:47 PM, raunchy...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Raunchy, I agree that Barry is a degenerate filth and a
rotten piece of shit.
But, he cleverly worded his statement in such a way that it
would seem to general readers, that true blue believers
would condone such an act (whether by maharishi or anyone
else).
In other words, he seems to be implying that true believers
are perverts or fools, as they would condone such an act. I
think this provoked Jim and Ann.
Nope. Folks didn't react to Barry because they were offended as true
believers. They were offended as human beings repulsed by the vile image of
child abuse he invoked.
What Barry posted was probably intentionally nuanced, but I've got to say it
was a very strange metaphor to use on a public forum discussing spiritual
paths, considering how almost anything can be taken out of context and used
against him.
But,I've come to expect that from Barry - not for nothing did he call himself
the Uncle Tantra for a decade or more. It was almost like he was so engrossed
in winning a religious argument that he lost all sense of propriety and common
sense.
I can't take sides in this since, as far as I'm concerned, almost everyone on
this fourm has said something derogatory about me, but I'm not going to call
the cops on anyone. I'll let others be the informants and I'll just continue to
post information, or I won't.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] There is NO American Dream
On 11/29/2014 10:50 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Dream on college kids. It will probably take and insurrection to correct this. /Why do almost all of your economic solutions involve violence? / / /On 11/28/2014 7:23 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Because history repeats itself. The people have the right of revolution but individuals do not. At present you stand alone. On 11/29/2014 11:30 AM, Bhairitu wrote: Hardly, you must not be paying attention to the news. Do you know that the riots going on about Ferguson really don't have as much to do with racial problems as they do with increasing poverty, lack of jobs, police militarization, economic inequity? When people can't afford food anymore then revolutions occur as they did in France and Russia and coming soon to a country near you. /Political power is inherent in the *people.* When individuals rebel and break the law they should be punished. The American Dream is a national ethos of the United States, a set of ideals in which freedom includes the equal opportunity for prosperity and success achieved through hard work. Everyone is equal and they are all endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights which include Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. If you do not agree with this, you should leave the country./ The problem could be solved just doing two things which you will hate: 1) a basic guaranteed income so no one falls through the cracks. The need for this is becoming more obvious than ever as jobs disappear due to automation. 2) an income and estate limit the latter probably for about $20 million. Reach that and every penny over goes to the government to help fund number 1. Now there's plenty leeway in between but if you are so materialistic and greedy that $20 million isn't enough then perhaps you belong in an insane asylum. It's simply that our system has become dysfunctional for it's citizens and time for change.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
You're my nephew's age. I surmised an age for you given when you were at MUM. Salyavin supposed provided his horoscope from which one can figure the date of birth almost down to the time. I never looked at physical age so much as mental age. It's sort of like you can have a room full of people of different age groups but same mindset. On 11/29/2014 12:06 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: How are innocent young souls like me and MJ going to learn what's right with the type of role models we've got here? Ha ha! Good one Sal!! I'm 58 now meself. *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:43 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : It was Judy who brought that phrase about being open minded, attributed to her dad, after I accused her of being close minded on a topic. What is happening to FFL is we are getting old and cranky. Some of us are approaching our 70s and some are already there. And we have some that are a generation younger (apparently Salyavin and MJ). Yes, and I must say you lot aren't being a very good influence. How are innocent young souls like me and MJ going to learn what's right with the type of role models we've got here? It is kinda unusual to watch a group fly this out of control. Usually moderators will keep things civil but then there's nothing like a free for all either. Some of us like to keep our anonymity because we don't want (having been TM teachers) unwarranted reprisals from the TMO. Even Judy recommended it. I think it's been quite civil actually, just a few resignations in protest and a few lawsuit threats. Could have been a lot worse. I blame all the spiritual detachment we have. But anyway the place also has to keep up it's appearances as a loony bin which doesn't seem to hard to do. :-D Remember, it's entirely your decision whether you are inside or outside the asylum! On 11/29/2014 09:33 AM, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I am just trying to keep from being so open minded that my brains fall out! Glad it made you laugh. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Curtis, I'm still LOLing as I reply. What got me laughing was your comment about what is overrated at this stage of life. Being vague so others can enjoy it for themselves... Have fun tomorrow and I look forward to your report. *From:* curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:curtisdeltablues@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 10:47 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... I've watched this will some alarm because last time I was posting here I had to try to back down Jim and Nabby from creating fantasy ill-will scenarios about my personal life in response to me posting my opinions about Maharishi's teaching. It was an escalation of their MO since I began posting here. I am happy to see it resolved with Jim creating his own page while hilariously claiming that it was because OTHER people were not being civil here! I do not believe it will last any more than his participation on then other enlightened forum, but hope to be proven wrong. I think you were right to go the legal route because they were crossing a weird and disturbing line Barry. There is no parity between how you post here and what those guys were up to. FFL has gone through many different incarnations as strongly influential posters come and go. I viewed the end of the Judy era as a positive thing, but was disturbed to see how others escalated to fill the gap. Judy ran her routine in a much more interesting way IMO, so despite strongly dissagreing with her most of the time, I was entertained and prompted to write more many times because of her participation. That degraded in the era of the clique she led that involved the Share bashing era in the girl's locker room. Shit got weird and unpleasant, but worst of all boring. I don't know where FFL is headed now but I am an optimist. I intend to report on my experiences tomorrow at the event in Alexandria. Last I checked almost 800 people had reserved a seat. I had some contact with people from the old days who were kind enough to share their perspective. Although I remain a skeptic and am not really going with anything close to an open mind (overrated at
Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
On 11/29/2014 2:03 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: Now that is something I can't understand - how former TM teachers could be afraid of reprisals of some kind for saying stuff about Marshy or the TMO. Look, I knew you were dumb, but not THAT dumb. Obviously you are using an alias. So, let me be real clear: /YOU WILL NEVER BE ALLOWED TO BAKE BREAD ON THE MUM CAMPUS EVER AGAIN!/ Why? How? I mean look at how inept the Movement has been in suing ACTIVE former TM teachers such as the folks in the UK Chris Greathead and Colin Beckley who founded the Meditation Trust and Transcendental Meditation Independent. Non sequitur. You sucked as the MUM baker - this has been attested to by numerous TM Teachers and students, up to and including the President of the University and the campus cafeteria supervisor. Don't try to blame your ineptness on some poor, innocent TMers over in the UK! So what does a non teaching former TM teacher have to fear from the popinjays of the Movement? Unless you might want to get on a course now and again - then I can see it. /It has already been established by the informant himself, a former TM Teacher, that he is afraid, very afraid - otherwise why would he report Jim and Nabby to Interpol just for poking fun at him and his imaginary daughter? / *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:00 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... It was Judy who brought that phrase about being open minded, attributed to her dad, after I accused her of being close minded on a topic. What is happening to FFL is we are getting old and cranky. Some of us are approaching our 70s and some are already there. And we have some that are a generation younger (apparently Salyavin and MJ). It is kinda unusual to watch a group fly this out of control. Usually moderators will keep things civil but then there's nothing like a free for all either. Some of us like to keep our anonymity because we don't want (having been TM teachers) unwarranted reprisals from the TMO. Even Judy recommended it. But anyway the places also has to keep up it's appearances as a loony bin which doesn't seem to hard to do. :-D On 11/29/2014 09:33 AM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com mailto:curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I am just trying to keep from being so open minded that my brains fall out! Glad it made you laugh. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Curtis, I'm still LOLing as I reply. What got me laughing was your comment about what is overrated at this stage of life. Being vague so others can enjoy it for themselves... Have fun tomorrow and I look forward to your report. *From:* curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:curtisdeltablues@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 10:47 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... I've watched this will some alarm because last time I was posting here I had to try to back down Jim and Nabby from creating fantasy ill-will scenarios about my personal life in response to me posting my opinions about Maharishi's teaching. It was an escalation of their MO since I began posting here. I am happy to see it resolved with Jim creating his own page while hilariously claiming that it was because OTHER people were not being civil here! I do not believe it will last any more than his participation on then other enlightened forum, but hope to be proven wrong. I think you were right to go the legal route because they were crossing a weird and disturbing line Barry. There is no parity between how you post here and what those guys were up to. FFL has gone through many different incarnations as strongly influential posters come and go. I viewed the end of the Judy era as a positive thing, but was disturbed to see how others escalated to fill the gap. Judy ran her routine in a much more interesting way IMO, so despite strongly dissagreing with her most of the time, I was entertained and prompted to write more many times because of her participation. That degraded in the era of the clique she led that involved the Share bashing era in the girl's locker room. Shit got weird and unpleasant, but worst of all boring. I don't know where FFL is headed now but I am an optimist. I intend to report on my experiences tomorrow at the event in Alexandria. Last I checked almost 800 people had reserved a seat. I had some contact with people from the old days who were kind enough to share their perspective. Although
Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
It was a long time ago and on the a.m.t newsgroup that Judy mentioned that. No one wants to explain to dummies that their organization is public and open to criticism. Nor explain that you haven't taken TM and are teaching under something different when you're not. In fact I asked a few of these indie teachers why didn't they just go learn to teach a different meditation method as I did. Many of us saw the self appointed TM cops who emerged usually from being relatively shy teachers at centers to assholes. They drove a lot of cool people away from the organization. We just didn't want to bother with them. On 11/29/2014 12:03 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Now that is something I can't understand - how former TM teachers could be afraid of reprisals of some kind for saying stuff about Marshy or the TMO. Why? How? I mean look at how inept the Movement has been in suing ACTIVE former TM teachers such as the folks in the UK Chris Greathead and Colin Beckley who founded the Meditation Trust and Transcendental Meditation Independent. So what does a non teaching former TM teacher have to fear from the popinjays of the Movement? Unless you might want to get on a course now and again - then I can see it. *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:00 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... It was Judy who brought that phrase about being open minded, attributed to her dad, after I accused her of being close minded on a topic. What is happening to FFL is we are getting old and cranky. Some of us are approaching our 70s and some are already there. And we have some that are a generation younger (apparently Salyavin and MJ). It is kinda unusual to watch a group fly this out of control. Usually moderators will keep things civil but then there's nothing like a free for all either. Some of us like to keep our anonymity because we don't want (having been TM teachers) unwarranted reprisals from the TMO. Even Judy recommended it. But anyway the places also has to keep up it's appearances as a loony bin which doesn't seem to hard to do. :-D On 11/29/2014 09:33 AM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com mailto:curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I am just trying to keep from being so open minded that my brains fall out! Glad it made you laugh. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Curtis, I'm still LOLing as I reply. What got me laughing was your comment about what is overrated at this stage of life. Being vague so others can enjoy it for themselves... Have fun tomorrow and I look forward to your report. *From:* curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:curtisdeltablues@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 10:47 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... I've watched this will some alarm because last time I was posting here I had to try to back down Jim and Nabby from creating fantasy ill-will scenarios about my personal life in response to me posting my opinions about Maharishi's teaching. It was an escalation of their MO since I began posting here. I am happy to see it resolved with Jim creating his own page while hilariously claiming that it was because OTHER people were not being civil here! I do not believe it will last any more than his participation on then other enlightened forum, but hope to be proven wrong. I think you were right to go the legal route because they were crossing a weird and disturbing line Barry. There is no parity between how you post here and what those guys were up to. FFL has gone through many different incarnations as strongly influential posters come and go. I viewed the end of the Judy era as a positive thing, but was disturbed to see how others escalated to fill the gap. Judy ran her routine in a much more interesting way IMO, so despite strongly dissagreing with her most of the time, I was entertained and prompted to write more many times because of her participation. That degraded in the era of the clique she led that involved the Share bashing era in the girl's locker room. Shit got weird and unpleasant, but worst of all boring. I don't know where FFL is headed now but I am an optimist. I intend to report on my experiences tomorrow at the event in Alexandria. Last I checked almost 800 people had reserved a seat. I had some contact with people from the old days who were kind enough to share their perspective. Although I remain a skeptic and am not
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On 11/29/2014 2:53 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: The Movement is a bullshit organization that defrauds people of their money and ruins their lives in many case. They wanna come after me, let 'em come on. Their master Mahesh Prasad the Varmit was a liar, cheat, con artist and fraud. Let 'em come on. /This information should be reported to the Interpol and to The Hague in the Netherlands! If true, this is just outrageous! Are you saying that our esteemed colleagues, Barry, Curtis, Edg and Salya, sold us snake oil for money and were liars, cheats, con artists and frauds and that they ruined lives? Or, are you saying they were as dumb as you were? Why can't you just admit that you failed to be able to sit still for twenty minutes? You don't have to throw your friends under the bus just because you sucked as a part-time dish-washer at a school up in Iowa!/ /Go figure./ As to Barry, his point has ALREADY been proven in the persons of people like Jerry Jarvis who were around Mahesh the Varmit enough to know of his enormities and deny them all. How could people like Mark Landau, Billy Clayton, Connie Larson, Rob McCutchan and others see that Marshy was lying about being a life long celibate and others like Jarvis adamantly and utterly deny any of it ever happened? People on this FFL forum have stated things like Well, even if he did have sex, that just makes him more human in my eyes. rather than using their minds and common sense and say That little liar! Wonder what else he lied about? Barry is right - a true believer will find any number of ways to wiggle out of looking straight at the facts about cherished beliefs and the people they look up to. I like Rick for a number of reasons but even Rick has said things like Marshy's words, what he professed and what he actually did were different and Rick calls things like that a paradox. The difference between what Marshy said and what he did is not a paradox in any way shape or form, it is a contradiction, and an assault on decent human values. Marshy lied, he committed fraud on a grand scale and what is worse, he damaged a lot of lives in the process, with apparently no remorse whatsoever. Marshy's teaching including his interpretation of the experience of meditation was based on his definition of enlightenment. He gave that definition in terms the people with a Judeo-Christian background could understand then he turned around and violated his teaching. This is not spiritual rocket science, it is spirituality 101 - calling what Marshy did on all levels a paradox is sidestepping the responsibility to deal with the truth. The fact that some people like TM and feel they got something out of it and something out of their connection to Marshy no more negates or makes his other behaviors a paradox than if you are married to someone you love and they cheat on you. They may be lovable but they also violated their connection to you and their agreements with you. If you are in business with someone you love and respect and they take off with the company funds, its not a paradox, they committed a crime against you and everyone connected to the company - calling it a paradox is ignoring the truth. So let the lying jackasses who run the Movement come after me for saying these things - we'll see how they hold up in court, I would love nothing better than to have Hagelin and Morriss squirming in the court in front of a judge and jury. *From:* jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:56 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies... Dude, you are acting exactly like danfriedman2002 here. You make a stupid, dumbshit statement on a forum which you are well aware, that it has abnormal members. Your statement also indirectly suggested that they would condone or overlook such a perversion. You case is a little shaky. What will you do if TMO slaps a lawsuit on you for libeling MMY and the believers? --- turquoiseb@... wrote : *Nablus, I suggest that you drop this, because YOUR name, email address, and posting history here on the Fairfield Life group are now in the possession of the Dutch police. I tried to warn you earlier that this country takes a very hard line with people who attempt to harm others' reputations through malicious slander and cyberstalking, but obviously you weren't listening. You should listen now, because if you persist I will have no choice but to file formal criminal charges against you. * *From:* nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:22 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... Who knows how many have unsubscribed. Rick Archer has not yet had the balls to booth the butt-fucking-babies member. Meanwhile we'll se what the Leiden Police choose to do as
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How you know Sal didn't dummy up the numbers for his horoscope? As little as he thinks of astrology, I wouldn't be surprised. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... You're my nephew's age. I surmised an age for you given when you were at MUM. Salyavin supposed provided his horoscope from which one can figure the date of birth almost down to the time. I never looked at physical age so much as mental age. It's sort of like you can have a room full of people of different age groups but same mindset. On 11/29/2014 12:06 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: How are innocent young souls like me and MJ going to learn what's right with the type of role models we've got here? Ha ha! Good one Sal!! I'm 58 now meself. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : It was Judy who brought that phrase about being open minded, attributed to her dad, after I accused her of being close minded on a topic. What is happening to FFL is we are getting old and cranky. Some of us are approaching our 70s and some are already there. And we have some that are a generation younger (apparently Salyavin and MJ). Yes, and I must say you lot aren't being a very good influence. How are innocent young souls like me and MJ going to learn what's right with the type of role models we've got here? It is kinda unusual to watch a group fly this out of control. Usually moderators will keep things civil but then there's nothing like a free for all either. Some of us like to keep our anonymity because we don't want (having been TM teachers) unwarranted reprisals from the TMO. Even Judy recommended it. I think it's been quite civil actually, just a few resignations in protest and a few lawsuit threats. Could have been a lot worse. I blame all the spiritual detachment we have. But anyway the place also has to keep up it's appearances as a loony bin which doesn't seem to hard to do. :-D Remember, it's entirely your decision whether you are inside or outside the asylum! On 11/29/2014 09:33 AM, curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I am just trying to keep from being so open minded that my brains fall out! Glad it made you laugh. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Curtis,I'm still LOLing as I reply. What got me laughing was your comment about what is overrated at this stage of life. Being vague so others can enjoy it for themselves... Have fun tomorrow and I look forward to your report. From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... I'vewatched this will some alarm because last time I was posting here I had to try to back down Jim and Nabby from creating fantasy ill-will scenarios about my personal life in response to me posting my opinions about Maharishi's teaching. It was an escalation of their MO since I began posting here. I am happy to see it resolved with Jim creating his own page while hilariously claiming that it was because OTHER people were not being civil here! I do not believe it will last any more than his participation on then other enlightened forum, but hope to be proven wrong. I think you were right to go the legal route because they were crossing a weird and disturbing line Barry. There is no parity between how you post here and what those guys were up to. FFL has gone through many different incarnations as strongly influential posters come and go. I viewed the end of the Judy era as a positive thing, but was disturbed to see how others escalated to fill the gap. Judy ran her routine in a much more interesting way IMO, so despite strongly dissagreing with her most of the time, I was entertained and prompted to write more many times because of her participation. That degraded in the era of the clique she led that involved the Share bashing era in the girl's locker room. Shit got weird and unpleasant, but worst of all boring. I don't know where FFL is headed now but I am an optimist. I intend to report on my experiences tomorrow at the event in Alexandria. Last I checked almost 800 people had reserved a seat. I had some contact with people from the old days who were kind enough to share their perspective. Although I remain a skeptic and am not really going with anything close to an open mind (overrated at this stage of my life I believe) I will go for the many
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the self appointed TM cops who emerged usually from being relatively shy teachers at centers to assholes. Are you serious? They went from shy to buttheads? From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... It was a long time ago and on the a.m.t newsgroup that Judy mentioned that. No one wants to explain to dummies that their organization is public and open to criticism. Nor explain that you haven't taken TM and are teaching under something different when you're not. In fact I asked a few of these indie teachers why didn't they just go learn to teach a different meditation method as I did. Many of us saw the self appointed TM cops who emerged usually from being relatively shy teachers at centers to assholes. They drove a lot of cool people away from the organization. We just didn't want to bother with them. On 11/29/2014 12:03 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Now that is something I can't understand - how former TM teachers could be afraid of reprisals of some kind for saying stuff about Marshy or the TMO. Why? How? I mean look at how inept the Movement has been in suing ACTIVE former TM teachers such as the folks in the UK Chris Greathead and Colin Beckley who founded the Meditation Trust and Transcendental Meditation Independent. So what does a non teaching former TM teacher have to fear from the popinjays of the Movement? Unless you might want to get on a course now and again - then I can see it. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... It was Judy who brought that phrase about being open minded, attributed to her dad, after I accused her of being close minded on a topic. What is happening to FFL is we are getting old and cranky. Some of us are approaching our 70s and some are already there. And we have some that are a generation younger (apparently Salyavin and MJ). It is kinda unusual to watch a group fly this out of control. Usually moderators will keep things civil but then there's nothing like a free for all either. Some of us like to keep our anonymity because we don't want (having been TM teachers) unwarranted reprisals from the TMO. Even Judy recommended it. But anyway the places also has to keep up it's appearances as a loony bin which doesn't seem to hard to do. :-D On 11/29/2014 09:33 AM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I am just trying to keep from being so open minded that my brains fall out! Glad it made you laugh. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Curtis, I'm still LOLing as I reply. What got me laughing was your comment about what is overrated at this stage of life. Being vague so others can enjoy it for themselves... Have fun tomorrow and I look forward to your report. From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... I've watched this will some alarm because last time I was posting here I had to try to back down Jim and Nabby from creating fantasy ill-will scenarios about my personal life in response to me posting my opinions about Maharishi's teaching. It was an escalation of their MO since I began posting here. I am happy to see it resolved with Jim creating his own page while hilariously claiming that it was because OTHER people were not being civil here! I do not believe it will last any more than his participation on then other enlightened forum, but hope to be proven wrong. I think you were right to go the legal route because they were crossing a weird and disturbing line Barry. There is no parity between how you post here and what those guys were up to. FFL has gone through many different incarnations as strongly influential posters come and go. I viewed the end of the Judy era as a positive thing, but was disturbed to see how others escalated to fill the gap. Judy ran her routine in a much more interesting way IMO, so despite strongly dissagreing with her most of the time, I was entertained and prompted to write more many times because of her participation. That degraded in the era of the clique she led that involved the Share bashing era in the girl's locker room. Shit got weird and unpleasant, but worst of all boring. I don't know where FFL is headed now but I am an optimist. I intend to report on my experiences tomorrow at the event in Alexandria. Last I checked almost 800 people had reserved a seat. I
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That's why I used the word apparently. On 11/29/2014 03:08 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: How you know Sal didn't dummy up the numbers for his horoscope? As little as he thinks of astrology, I wouldn't be surprised. *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 4:46 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... You're my nephew's age. I surmised an age for you given when you were at MUM. Salyavin supposed provided his horoscope from which one can figure the date of birth almost down to the time. I never looked at physical age so much as mental age. It's sort of like you can have a room full of people of different age groups but same mindset. On 11/29/2014 12:06 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com mailto:mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: How are innocent young souls like me and MJ going to learn what's right with the type of role models we've got here? Ha ha! Good one Sal!! I'm 58 now meself. *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:43 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : It was Judy who brought that phrase about being open minded, attributed to her dad, after I accused her of being close minded on a topic. What is happening to FFL is we are getting old and cranky. Some of us are approaching our 70s and some are already there. And we have some that are a generation younger (apparently Salyavin and MJ). Yes, and I must say you lot aren't being a very good influence. How are innocent young souls like me and MJ going to learn what's right with the type of role models we've got here? It is kinda unusual to watch a group fly this out of control. Usually moderators will keep things civil but then there's nothing like a free for all either. Some of us like to keep our anonymity because we don't want (having been TM teachers) unwarranted reprisals from the TMO. Even Judy recommended it. I think it's been quite civil actually, just a few resignations in protest and a few lawsuit threats. Could have been a lot worse. I blame all the spiritual detachment we have. But anyway the place also has to keep up it's appearances as a loony bin which doesn't seem to hard to do. :-D Remember, it's entirely your decision whether you are inside or outside the asylum! On 11/29/2014 09:33 AM, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I am just trying to keep from being so open minded that my brains fall out! Glad it made you laugh. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Curtis, I'm still LOLing as I reply. What got me laughing was your comment about what is overrated at this stage of life. Being vague so others can enjoy it for themselves... Have fun tomorrow and I look forward to your report. *From:* curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:curtisdeltablues@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 10:47 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies... I've watched this will some alarm because last time I was posting here I had to try to back down Jim and Nabby from creating fantasy ill-will scenarios about my personal life in response to me posting my opinions about Maharishi's teaching. It was an escalation of their MO since I began posting here. I am happy to see it resolved with Jim creating his own page while hilariously claiming that it was because OTHER people were not being civil here! I do not believe it will last any more than his participation on then other enlightened forum, but hope to be proven wrong. I think you were right to go the legal route because they were crossing a weird and disturbing line Barry. There is no parity between how you post here and what those guys were up to. FFL has gone through many different incarnations as strongly influential posters come and go. I viewed the end of the Judy era as a positive thing, but was disturbed to see how others escalated to fill the gap. Judy ran her routine in a much more interesting way IMO, so despite strongly dissagreing with her
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On 11/29/2014 3:42 PM, Share Long wrote: Richard, it's probably good not to take it personally. ESPECIALLY when they mean it personally. Share, I don't take it personally - it's the cognitive dissonance that concerns me. Every statement, when taken to extremes, will be found to be self-contradictory. I just don't understand why Barry can't understand this anymore - he is the one who alerted me to it! /So when you see something that violates all the rules you have established in your mind for How Things Work, your mind freaks out for a little while. It goes into a 3 to 4 day period of profound cognitive dissonance./ - Unc 7/25/03 PS If I've ever said anything negative about you, hope you'll forgive me. /You are one of the few respondents on this forum that has helped me with my own cognitive dissonance. / *From:* 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 2:31 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies... On 11/29/2014 12:47 PM, raunchy...@yahoo.com mailto:raunchy...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Raunchy, I agree that Barry is a degenerate filth and a rotten piece of shit. But, he cleverly worded his statement in such a way that it would seem to general readers, that true blue believers would condone such an act (whether by maharishi or anyone else). In other words, he seems to be implying that true believers are perverts or fools, as they would condone such an act. I think this provoked Jim and Ann. Nope. Folks didn't react to Barry because they were offended as true believers. They were offended as human beings repulsed by the vile image of child abuse he invoked. /What Barry posted was probably intentionally nuanced, but I've got to say it was a very strange metaphor to use on a public forum discussing spiritual paths, considering how almost anything can be taken out of context and used against him. But, I've come to expect that from Barry - not for nothing did he call himself the Uncle Tantra for a decade or more. It was almost like he was so engrossed in winning a religious argument that he lost all sense of propriety and common sense. I can't take sides in this since, as far as I'm concerned, almost everyone on this fourm has said something derogatory about me, but I'm not going to call the cops on anyone. I'll let others be the informants and I'll just continue to post information, or I won't. /
[FairfieldLife] Barry's laughing his arse off at all of you.
Barry, the American citizen, is claiming that he's going to the Dutch police to file Dutch charges against someone on an American internet forum for saying something he believes harms his reputation. This is hilarious and this is why Barry has played you all for gullible fools. To file charges you must convince a prosecutor: 1. that a crime was committed 2. that the criminal act was a relevant infraction of published Dutch law 3. that the act occurred in Dutch territory 4. that the person/place that is harmed is covered by Dutch law. 5. that any legal claims asserted by claimants have standing before the relevant court of law. Dutch law doesn't matter in Amerika. Barry doesn't matter in Amerika. FFL is none of the above. The hammer cracks. The case is closed. Read it weep at your gullibility. Read it and laugh at the absurdity. FFL is not the final archipelago of 18th Century European legal hegemony.
[FairfieldLife] Stochasticity
Stochasticity (a wonderfully slippery and smarty-pants word for randomness), may be at the very foundation of our lives. To understand how big a role it plays, we look at chance and patterns in sports, lottery tickets, and even the cells in our own body. Along the way, we talk to a woman suddenly consumed by a frenzied gambling addiction, meet two friends whose meeting seems to defy pure chance, and take a close look at some very noisy bacteria. Listen to the story: http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/audio4.wnyc.org/radiolab/radiolab091109.mp3 http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/audio4.wnyc.org/radiolab/radiolab091109.mp3 Stochasticity http://www.radiolab.org/story/91684-stochasticity/ http://www.radiolab.org/story/91684-stochasticity/ Stochasticity http://www.radiolab.org/story/91684-stochasticity/ How stochasticity -- a wonderfully smarty-pants word for randomness -- drives our lives,... http://www.radiolab.org/story/91684-stochasticity/ Preview by Yahoo
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[FairfieldLife] The real alternative to FFL
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry's laughing his arse off at all of you.
On 11/29/2014 5:46 PM, emptybill wrote: Barry, the American citizen, is claiming that he's going to the Dutch police to file Dutch charges against someone on an American internet forum for saying something he believes harms his reputation. Usually, but not in every case, an expatriate doesn't go to the police unless they have their papers in perfect order, and even then the last thing an expat wants is the heat knowing where you live and to monitor their internet activity and phone calls. Although they are probably already doing that, since Barry uses their free public Wi-Fi at a hash den. Nothing illegal about that, but it doesn't sound very secure. They probably already hate his guts for taking their jobs and welfare, when he could be back in the States paying for his own rent and medical care. This is hilarious I'll tell you what's hilarious - posing on a chat-room as a polyandrous/dharma bum/, using an alias like /Uncle Tantra /and using work-a-day language with fu*k and sh*t in every other sentence - and then pretending to be upset over a baby daughter named /Maya/ that isn't even his and/or that doesn't even exist except in his own mind. / Now that's funny!/ and this is why Barry has played you all for gullible fools. Not all of us - apparently Rick, who doesn't take to threats kindly, hasn't even responded to Barry's complaints. If I was Rick, I'd kick the bum off the forum just for claiming to have filed charges - like Rick kicked off Dan for threatening to report the forum to the Jewish Anti-Defamation League - a threat which pales in comparison to Barry threatening to call in the International Police. To file charges you must convince a prosecutor: 1. that a crime was committed 2. that the criminal act was a relevant infraction of published Dutch law 3. that the act occurred in Dutch territory 4. that the person/place that is harmed is covered by Dutch law. 5. that any legal claims asserted by claimants have standing before the relevant court of law. You forgot that a complainant also has to have some money in the bank. Dutch law doesn't matter in Amerika. Barry doesn't matter in Amerika. FFL is none of the above. The hammer cracks. The case is closed. BAILIFF - REMOVE THIS MANIAC FROM THE COURT! Read it weep at your gullibility. Read it and laugh at the absurdity. THE COURT NOW REMANDS THIS IMPOSTOR TO THE ASYLUM! FFL is not the final archipelago of 18th Century European legal hegemony. Let's hope Barry has retained his American passport and it is current, but for God's sake, I hope they won't let him come back to Texas!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stochasticity
On 11/29/2014 6:03 PM, eustace wrote: Stochasticity (a wonderfully slippery and smarty-pants word for randomness), Thanks for the information, Eustace, but I'm not at all convinced that things happen by chance or at random - according to science, everything happens for a reason - the law of cause and effect. All things fall down. We could all be mistaken about this, but it's been my experience that /human excrement always flows downstream/, without exception. may be at the very foundation of our lives. To understand how big a role it plays, we look at chance and patterns in sports, lottery tickets, and even the cells in our own body. Along the way, we talk to a woman suddenly consumed by a frenzied gambling addiction, meet two friends whose meeting seems to defy pure chance, and take a close look at some very noisy bacteria. Listen to the story: http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/audio4.wnyc.org/radiolab/radiolab091109.mp3 Stochasticity http://www.radiolab.org/story/91684-stochasticity/ image http://www.radiolab.org/story/91684-stochasticity/ Stochasticity http://www.radiolab.org/story/91684-stochasticity/ How stochasticity -- a wonderfully smarty-pants word for randomness -- drives our lives,... http://www.radiolab.org/story/91684-stochasticity/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] There is NO American Dream
/The American Dream is a national ethos of the United States, a set of ideals in which freedom includes the equal opportunity for prosperity and success achieved through hard work. Everyone is equal and they are all endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights which include Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. If you do not agree with this, you should leave the country./ On 11/29/2014 3:43 PM, Bhairitu wrote: The problem could be solved just doing two things which you will hate: 1) a basic guaranteed income so no one falls through the cracks. The need for this is becoming more obvious than ever as jobs disappear due to automation. 2) an income and estate limit the latter probably for about $20 million. Reach that and every penny over goes to the government to help fund number 1. Now there's plenty leeway in between but if you are so materialistic and greedy that $20 million isn't enough then perhaps you belong in an insane asylum. My system is one everyone would love: 1) Universal employment making good money so everyone can pay their own way. 2) A smaller government with a balanced budget and no taxation. 3) Unlimited freedom to earn and save or spend as much money as you want. It's simply that our system has become dysfunctional for it's citizens and time for change. Our free market system was voted in by the *people* who hold the power - it's the individuals who don't believe in freedom and liberty and equality that are dysfunctional. /No government should be allowed to spend more money than it has in the bank./ Political power is inherent in the *people.* When individuals rebel and break the law they should be punished.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
C: I think that is at the heart of it. I say this because I often get personal insult responses to things I write here that are purely a critique of Maharishi and his teaching. Now if you are making a point that Barry also includes a bit of critique on the people who hold those beliefs, and that offends them I would go along with that. It wasn't about the babies on either side, that much I am clear about. R: I disagree. Anyone who has been posting on FFLife for any length has come to expect criticism of Maharishi. We are inured to it; water off a duck's back so to speak. The funny thing is that critics of Maharishi are so frozen in time with hurts and gripes about him they fail to see no one gives a shit. Rather than take responsibility for being down right ornery just for the hell of it, they continue to imagine their impotent barbs offend true believers. R: Baby abuse in just an escalation of his usual button pushing MO, the image of which would offend the sensibilities of any normal human being irrespective of their affiliation with Maharishi. C: No babies were harmed in the posting. It was not suggested that babies should be harmed. It was a gross line but nothing that someone who watches South Park would be too alarmed at in the way it was being used. No need to clutch pearls. (tip of the hat to you.) R: Your no babies were harmed and South Park defense of Barry is a silly distraction from the issue of his behavior and a huge assumption the pearl clutching lurkers you are so concerned cannot discern personal attack from satire would not be offended by or misconstrue Barry's metaphor invoking child abuse. You can't have it both ways, Curtis. It's likely lurkers will get satire making fun of Barry and have a good laugh. No one in their right mind thinks the use of a child abuse metaphor to push buttons is funny under any circumstance...except Barry, of course. R:Yes, I do see the difference between a personal accusation and satire, do you? C: I believe I was pointing that out myself, so yes. Even satire on dead public figures and living persons have different rules of engagement, or should IMO. R:Anyone reading my posts would have to be an idiot not to get the satire of my posts making fun of Barry. R: So you are making a case that people reading internet posts cannot be idiots? I'm sure you really do get the distinction I was making. As an isolated post it might have not taken on the Maharishi effect it achieved on top of more direct accusations. I do think you are a funny person Raunchy and I get your intent I think. R: BTW In response to Barry's faux victim outrage, C: Having been the target of a similar routine I am less inclined to see it as faux outrage. There is something really unsettling about seeing the intent of your words twisted into this accusation. You realize that someone wants to actually hurt your fer real real. R: I'm waiting for the Dutch police to come clattering after me in their wooden shoes. C: I am a fan of your clever humor Rauchy. Always have been.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The real alternative to FFL
emptyb makes me laugh again...
From: emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 6:51 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The real alternative to FFL
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry's laughing his arse off at all of you.
emptyb, so glad to hear that turqb is laughing. I LOVE to make people laugh, so
there!
From: emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 5:46 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Barry's laughing his arse off at all of you.
Barry, the American citizen, is claiming that he's going to the Dutch
police to file Dutch charges against someone on an American internet forum for
saying something he believes harms his reputation.
This is hilarious and this is why Barry has played you all for gullible fools.
To file charges you must convince a prosecutor:
1. that a crime was committed
2. that the criminal act was a relevant infraction of published Dutch law
3. that the act occurred in Dutch territory
4. that the person/place that is harmed is covered by Dutch law.
5. that any legal claims asserted by claimants have standing before the
relevant court of law.
Dutch law doesn't matter in Amerika. Barry doesn't matter in Amerika.
FFL is none of the above.
The hammer cracks.
The case is closed.
Read it weep at your gullibility. Read it and laugh at the absurdity.FFL is not
the final archipelago of 18th Century European legal hegemony.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies...
Richard, thank you, I like to help people. I think the trick is to have
cognitive dissonance about cognitive dissonance and then the whole thing sort
of collapses on itself (-:
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies...
On 11/29/2014 3:42 PM, Share Long wrote:
Richard, it's probably good not to take it personally. ESPECIALLY when
they mean it personally.
Share, I don't take it personally - it's the cognitive dissonance that
concerns me. Every statement, when taken to extremes, will be found to be
self-contradictory. I just don't understand why Barry can't understand this
anymore - he is the one who alerted me to it!
So when you see something that violates all the rules you have established
in your mind for How Things Work, your mind freaks out for a little while. It
goes into a 3 to 4 day period of profound cognitive dissonance. - Unc 7/25/03
PS If I've ever said anything negative about you, hope you'll forgive me.
You are one of the few respondents on this forum that has helped me with my
own cognitive dissonance.
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies...
On 11/29/2014 12:47 PM, raunchy...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Raunchy, I agree that Barry is a degenerate filth and a
rotten piece of shit.
But, he cleverly worded his statement in such a way that it
would seem to general readers, that true blue believers
would condone such an act (whether by maharishi or anyone
else).
In other words, he seems to be implying that true believers
are perverts or fools, as they would condone such an act. I
think this provoked Jim and Ann.
Nope. Folks didn't react to Barry because they were offended as true
believers. They were offended as human beings repulsed by the vile image of
child abuse he invoked.
What Barry posted was probably intentionally nuanced, but I've got to say it
was a very strange metaphor to use on a public forum discussing spiritual
paths, considering how almost anything can be taken out of context and used
against him.
But, I've come to expect that from Barry - not for nothing did he call
himself the Uncle Tantra for a decade or more. It was almost like he was so
engrossed in winning a religious argument that he lost all sense of propriety
and common sense.
I can't take sides in this since, as far as I'm concerned, almost everyone on
this fourm has said something derogatory about me, but I'm not going to call
the cops on anyone. I'll let others be the informants and I'll just continue
to post information, or I won't.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] There is NO American Dream
On 11/29/2014 05:13 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: /The American Dream is a national ethos of the United States, a set of ideals in which freedom includes the equal opportunity for prosperity and success achieved through hard work. Everyone is equal and they are all endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights which include Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. If you do not agree with this, you should leave the country./ On 11/29/2014 3:43 PM, Bhairitu wrote: The problem could be solved just doing two things which you will hate: 1) a basic guaranteed income so no one falls through the cracks. The need for this is becoming more obvious than ever as jobs disappear due to automation. 2) an income and estate limit the latter probably for about $20 million. Reach that and every penny over goes to the government to help fund number 1. Now there's plenty leeway in between but if you are so materialistic and greedy that $20 million isn't enough then perhaps you belong in an insane asylum. My system is one everyone would love: 1) Universal employment making good money so everyone can pay their own way. And the jobs come from where? The government? Well that screws up your number 2 proposal. 2) A smaller government with a balanced budget and no taxation. And you propose to pay for that tiny government how? You can have a smaller government with my proposal. 3) Unlimited freedom to earn and save or spend as much money as you want. Would be gamed by the selfish and greedy. The wannabe napoleons. We don't need any stinkin' napoleons. They fuck everything up. It's simply that our system has become dysfunctional for it's citizens and time for change. Our free market system was voted in by the *people* who hold the power - it's the individuals who don't believe in freedom and liberty and equality that are dysfunctional. /No government should be allowed to spend more money than it has in the bank./ So cut defense spending. Oh, can't do that, America must be number one and exceptional. What a fool's dream! Political power is inherent in the *people.* When individuals rebel and break the law they should be punished. So you would have thrown the founding fathers in prison?
Re: [FairfieldLife] There is NO American Dream
On 11/29/2014 3:43 PM, Bhairitu wrote: The problem could be solved just doing two things which you will hate: 1) a basic guaranteed income so no one falls through the cracks. The need for this is becoming more obvious than ever as jobs disappear due to automation. 2) an income and estate limit the latter probably for about $20 million. Reach that and every penny over goes to the government to help fund number 1. Now there's plenty leeway in between but if you are so materialistic and greedy that $20 million isn't enough then perhaps you belong in an insane asylum. My system is one everyone would love: 1) Universal employment making good money so everyone can pay their own way. On 11/29/2014 8:12 PM, Bhairitu wrote: And the jobs come from where? The government? Well that screws up your number 2 proposal. /Jobs that pay good money don't come from the government - they come from the private sector./ 2) A smaller government with a balanced budget and no taxation. And you propose to pay for that tiny government how? You can have a smaller government with my proposal. /A small federal government doesn't need a big budget - most of the governing should be in the individual states./ 3) Unlimited freedom to earn and save or spend as much money as you want. Would be gamed by the selfish and greedy. The wannabe napoleons. We don't need any stinkin' napoleons. They fuck everything up. /Freedom means freedom to be selfish and greedy, if that's what they want./ It's simply that our system has become dysfunctional for it's citizens and time for change. Our free market system was voted in by the *people* who hold the power - it's the individuals who don't believe in freedom and liberty and equality that are dysfunctional. /No government should be allowed to spend more money than it has in the bank./ So cut defense spending. Oh, can't do that, America must be number one and exceptional. What a fool's dream! /No, cut the federal budget by downsizing to pay for self-defense. The federal government should have a balanced budget, no borrowing./ Political power is inherent in the *people.* When individuals rebel and break the law they should be punished. So you would have thrown the founding fathers in prison? /The founding fathers represented the //*people*//- they did not act as individuals.//Anyone that threatens the liberty of others, to seal rich people inside bunkers with concrete, or attempts overthrow the elected government, should be arrested, punished and put in prison. Anyone should be free to be rich if they want to be. It's in the U.S. Constitution./
Re: [FairfieldLife] There is NO American Dream
On 11/29/2014 07:00 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: On 11/29/2014 3:43 PM, Bhairitu wrote: The problem could be solved just doing two things which you will hate: 1) a basic guaranteed income so no one falls through the cracks. The need for this is becoming more obvious than ever as jobs disappear due to automation. 2) an income and estate limit the latter probably for about $20 million. Reach that and every penny over goes to the government to help fund number 1. Now there's plenty leeway in between but if you are so materialistic and greedy that $20 million isn't enough then perhaps you belong in an insane asylum. My system is one everyone would love: 1) Universal employment making good money so everyone can pay their own way. On 11/29/2014 8:12 PM, Bhairitu wrote: And the jobs come from where? The government? Well that screws up your number 2 proposal. /Jobs that pay good money don't come from the government - they come from the private sector./ But what if the private sector doesn't need any more workers? 2) A smaller government with a balanced budget and no taxation. And you propose to pay for that tiny government how? You can have a smaller government with my proposal. /A small federal government doesn't need a big budget - most of the governing should be in the individual states./ So you would prefer paying higher state taxes? / / 3) Unlimited freedom to earn and save or spend as much money as you want. Would be gamed by the selfish and greedy. The wannabe napoleons. We don't need any stinkin' napoleons. They fuck everything up. /Freedom means freedom to be selfish and greedy, if that's what they want./ Such attitudes are destructive to society. If you can't see that then you are part of the problem. It's simply that our system has become dysfunctional for it's citizens and time for change. Our free market system was voted in by the *people* who hold the power - it's the individuals who don't believe in freedom and liberty and equality that are dysfunctional. /No government should be allowed to spend more money than it has in the bank./ So cut defense spending. Oh, can't do that, America must be number one and exceptional. What a fool's dream! /No, cut the federal budget by downsizing to pay for self-defense. The federal government should have a balanced budget, no borrowing./ But you still have to pay off all that debt to China. Political power is inherent in the *people.* When individuals rebel and break the law they should be punished. So you would have thrown the founding fathers in prison? /The founding fathers represented the //*people*//- they did not act as individuals./ So does the public when they rebel against the establishment. /Anyone that threatens the liberty of others, to seal rich people inside bunkers with concrete, or attempts overthrow the elected government, should be arrested, punished and put in prison./ Thomas Jefferson suggested that if the government no longer serves the people then it should be overthrown. Apparently you favor the status quo? // /Anyone should be free to be rich if they want to be. It's in the U.S. Constitution./ Where exactly in the U.S. Constitution?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kubrick The Illuminati
Your message has made my day! If you have any other recollections of the filming of Eyes Wide Shut do share them. Although Eyes Wide Shut was talked down by the critics I really loved it (I've seen the movie three times so far). The sexual paranoia that pervades the film really appeals. But to learn that the house where the sex party/rites scene was shot has at least a tenuous link to Maharishi's Mentmore Towers means that I myself can fantasize that I have at least a flimsy connection to the sinister cult portrayed! Until you mentioned it, I hadn't realised that the orgy scene was set to a recitation of The Bhagavad Gita . This is getting better and better! The icing on the cake would have been if they had used MMY's translation (!). Unfortunately I just Googled the details and it turns out that Hindus objected to the use of the Gita (on the film's original release) and it was cut from the movie you can see on DVD today. (There's some chanting earlier in the scene which is a Catholic text played backwards! I've pasted a link below.) The original Sanskrit recitation that Kubrick intended (damn Warner Brothers for getting cold feet and deleting it!) read: Parithranaya Saadhunam Vinashaya cha dushkrithaam Dharmasamsthabanarthaya Sambhavami yuge yuge which means: For the protection of the virtuous, for the destruction of the evil and for the firm establishment of Dharma (righteousness), I take birth and am incarnated on Earth, from age to age. Re Mentmore Towers: say what you like but MMY knew how to pick some prime real estate. Beautiful building and grounds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTwRRwUb4IE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTwRRwUb4IE ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Thanks, it's most interesting to see all the Masonic symbolism that I didn't notice before. Or is it not realy there and we are just getting a power of suggestion thing now that it's been pointed out? I haven't watched it all yet but I can add a bit to the Rothschild story. The house the orgy scene from Eyes Wide Shut was filmed in was indeed a Rothschild home but the one shown at 3.31 is Mentmore Towers, owned by the TMO at the time, and not the same one where the actual sexy bits were filmed. Kubric was apparently a bit of a character and wanted to knock down the main supporting wall inside Mentmore because he wanted the room to be 20 feet larger! The guy in charge of location work said that, of course he could knock the wall down as long as he rebuilt it perfectly! Even Kubrick balked at that idea and ended up moving to the Rothschild house down the road to complete the filming, only using the exterior shots of our pad in the final cut. The Rothschild's had loads of homes, they thought it would be a wheeze to be able to see them all from each other, and you can indeed see each one from the grounds of next. Hard life. Everyone at the Towers was upset when they heard that the orgy scene was set to someone reciting the Bhagavad Gita. Great place to live though, I really enjoyed the filming work there, I remember bumping into John Thaw when I was going to breakfast once, and I opened the door to Michael Cain when he was filming Quills about the Marquis De Sade. Gave a bit of colour to the day! They were both really friendly and didn't mind us watching them acting. The director of Quills was overjoyed with Mentmore, he said he could film the grandiose palace scenes in the main hall and the seedy brothel scenes in the staff quarters. LOL!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry's hate and laughing his arse off at all of you.
Emptyb, it does seems like a calculated hate crime kind of harassment of a group of people according to what he is saying. So Emptyb in our now knowing this about Dutch law and the American citizen then as the original perp was he just trolling with bluff with all this about his butt-on-pushing comment about babies or was he being salacious? There is a FFL rap-record here of salacious trolling using titillation and this is not the first time said writer has been called on it. Seems though in its calculated method as it is reported by the perp it would likely be under hate crime. The better place to report this possibly is with Attorneys Generals likely in the home State for Yahoo Corporation and also the Southern Poverty Law Center to add to their hate crimes watch list to monitor. Jai Guru Dev,-Buck Southern Poverty Law Center http://www.splcenter.org/?gclid=CNq__o2_ocICFY4-MgodSDMAOQ http://www.splcenter.org/?gclid=CNq__o2_ocICFY4-MgodSDMAOQ Southern Poverty Law Center http://www.splcenter.org/?gclid=CNq__o2_ocICFY4-MgodSDMAOQ The Southern Poverty Law Center was founded in 1971 as a small civil rights law firm. Today, the Center is internationally known for its tolerance education prog... View on www.splcenter.org http://www.splcenter.org/?gclid=CNq__o2_ocICFY4-MgodSDMAOQ Preview by Yahoo emptybill writes : Barry, the American citizen, is claiming that he's going to the Dutch police to file Dutch charges against someone on an American internet forum for saying something he believes harms his reputation. This is hilarious and this is why Barry has played you all for gullible fools. To file charges you must convince a prosecutor: 1. that a crime was committed 2. that the criminal act was a relevant infraction of published Dutch law 3. that the act occurred in Dutch territory 4. that the person/place that is harmed is covered by Dutch law. 5. that any legal claims asserted by claimants have standing before the relevant court of law. Dutch law doesn't matter in Amerika. Barry doesn't matter in Amerika. FFL is none of the above. The hammer cracks. The case is closed. Read it weep at your gullibility. Read it and laugh at the absurdity. FFL is not the final archipelago of 18th Century European legal hegemony.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kubrick The Illuminati
I don't particularly like Kubrick as a director and didn't like Eyes Wide Shut, but these are cool stories because of the TM connection. I can add one more that provides another link to the TM movement (although a short and temporary one). When I was on my 6-month Sidhis course in St. Moritz, Switzerland, we stayed in the big hotel at the top of the mountain. As usual on those courses, it was summertime in a winter resort, and normally the hotel would have been closed, but the TMO rented it to hold a Sidhis course in and we were the only guests. Anyway, one day everybody was out on their regimented walk and talk and I'd stayed at the hotel because I was feeling a bit poorly. And this guy showed up at the door of the hotel and asked if he could look around. He said that he was a location scout for Stanley Kubrick and was looking for a hotel in which to shoot his next movie. None of the admins were around for me to ask, so I made a judgment call and showed him around. Turns out the movie he was location-scouting for was The Shining. It finally got made in a hotel in Colorado, but I always thought it was funny that this guy thought that a hotel full of TM Sidhas was a good candidate for shooting a horror movie. :-) From: s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 5:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kubrick The Illuminati Your message has made my day! If you have any other recollections of the filming of Eyes Wide Shut do share them. Although Eyes Wide Shut was talked down by the critics I really loved it (I've seen the movie three times so far). The sexual paranoia that pervades the film really appeals. But to learn that the house where the sex party/rites scene was shot has at least a tenuous link to Maharishi's Mentmore Towers means that I myself can fantasize that I have at least a flimsy connection to the sinister cult portrayed! Until you mentioned it, I hadn't realised that the orgy scene was set to a recitation of The Bhagavad Gita . This is getting better and better! The icing on the cake would have been if they had used MMY's translation (!). Unfortunately I just Googled the details and it turns out that Hindus objected to the use of the Gita (on the film's original release) and it was cut from the movie you can see on DVD today. (There's some chanting earlier in the scene which is a Catholic text played backwards! I've pasted a link below.) The original Sanskrit recitation that Kubrick intended (damn Warner Brothers for getting cold feet and deleting it!) read: Parithranaya Saadhunam Vinashaya cha dushkrithaam Dharmasamsthabanarthaya Sambhavami yuge yuge which means: For the protection of the virtuous, for the destruction of the evil and for the firm establishment of Dharma (righteousness), I take birth and am incarnated on Earth, from age to age. Re Mentmore Towers: say what you like but MMY knew how to pick some prime real estate. Beautiful building and grounds.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTwRRwUb4IE ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Thanks, it's most interesting to see all the Masonic symbolism that I didn't notice before. Or is it not realy there and we are just getting a power of suggestion thing now that it's been pointed out? I haven't watched it all yet but I can add a bit to the Rothschild story. The house the orgy scene from Eyes Wide Shut was filmed in was indeed a Rothschild home but the one shown at 3.31 is Mentmore Towers, owned by the TMO at the time, and not the same one where the actual sexy bits were filmed. Kubric was apparently a bit of a character and wanted to knock down the main supporting wall inside Mentmore because he wanted the room to be 20 feet larger! The guy in charge of location work said that, of course he could knock the wall down as long as he rebuilt it perfectly! Even Kubrick balked at that idea and ended up moving to the Rothschild house down the road to complete the filming, only using the exterior shots of our pad in the final cut. The Rothschild's had loads of homes, they thought it would be a wheeze to be able to see them all from each other, and you can indeed see each one from the grounds of next. Hard life. Everyone at the Towers was upset when they heard that the orgy scene was set to someone reciting the Bhagavad Gita. Great place to live though, I really enjoyed the filming work there, I remember bumping into John Thaw when I was going to breakfast once, and I opened the door to Michael Cain when he was filming Quills about the Marquis De Sade. Gave a bit of colour to the day! They were both really friendly and didn't mind us watching them acting. The director of Quills was overjoyed with Mentmore, he said he could film the grandiose palace scenes in the main hall and the seedy brothel scenes in the staff quarters. LOL! #yiv0305546427
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies...
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com As to Barry, his point has ALREADY been proven in the persons of people like Jerry Jarvis who were around Mahesh the Varmit enough to know of his enormities and deny them all. How could people like Mark Landau, Billy Clayton, Connie Larson, Rob McCutchan and others see that Marshy was lying about being a life long celibate and others like Jarvis adamantly and utterly deny any of it ever happened? For the record, Jerry was *exactly* who I had in mind as the example of a person who could have witnessed what I suggested and walked away still believing that Maharishi was a life celibate. Jerry, as nice as he could be sometimes, was the ultimate see no evil monkey of the trio. People on this FFL forum have stated things like Well, even if he did have sex, that just makes him more human in my eyes. rather than using their minds and common sense and say That little liar! Wonder what else he lied about? Barry is right - a true believer will find any number of ways to wiggle out of looking straight at the facts about cherished beliefs and the people they look up to.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies...
From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 8:14 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Nope.Folks didn't react to Barry because they were offended as truebelievers. They were offended as human beings repulsed by the vileimage of child abuse he invoked. C: And you could be right on the cause of offense. It is what they did next that I condemn. Whatever your reaction to images being offered and read by choice here, the response shouldn't be accusations of despicable illegal acts aimed at the the writer. A person could just address how they feel about the image used without going that far to retaliate. To justify that kind of makes his original point. Exactly. Thanks for noticing and commenting. Yes, my language was crude and the image cruder. So yes, some people could have been offended by that. It's what they DID with that being offended is what I refer to as cult behavior. If your first impulse is to either 1) get the person who said the thing that's pushed your buttons and gotten you all offended, in order to *hurt* them somehow, or 2) hurt the person who said it's *reputation*, to lower their credibility in the eyes of others, then you're acting like a cultist. Judy specialized in this behavior and sadly did it so often that she made it a standard here on FFL. The people who modeled their behavior on her (the Mean Girls Club) did the same thing. My message all along has been that this behavior is straight out of the Cult Handbook and is something they learned subconsciously from being around the TMO for so many years. It is such a prevalent a part of the environment that no one notices they're doing it -- someone says something negative (meaning accurate and critical) about the TM movement, and they just launch into Cult Behavior Pattern #1 or #2. They're *just* like the $cientologists in this regard.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry's laughing his arse off at all of you.
I wouldn't normally bother with this tripe, cuz Empty is just sitting on his
ass in whatever shithole country he lives in, thinking that gives him an idea
how the law works in the Netherlands. It doesn't.
But as it turns out, the very existence of this harsh law that considers false
slander and libel about a person a hate crime comes from situations that came
up with *immigrants*. Yes, the Netherlands has racial bigots and conservatives
like everywhere else, and so a number of years back some of these Dutch
rednecks, angry that Muslim families were moving into their neighborhoods,
started circulating rumors (and even giving interviews that put them into the
press and onto TV) claiming that these new immigrants were all child molestors.
They launched smear campaigns and tried to force these immigrants out by
repeatedly calling Social Services and getting them to make visit after visit
to these immigrants' homes, ostensibly to check on the welfare of the
children.
Social Services never found any evidence of child abuse of any kind (including
FGM), and so the authorities realized that there was a hate-crime-based smear
campaign going on and wisely made it illegal to make such claims falsely. Since
then people have been prosecuted under the law and actually sent to prison
under it.
Finally, contrary to Empty's assumptions, in the Netherlands the law protects
everyone, including immigrants. Sorry it's not like that wherever he's from.
From: emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com in
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 12:46 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Barry's laughing his arse off at all of you.
Barry, the American citizen, is claiming that he's going to the Dutch
police to file Dutch charges against someone on an American internet forum for
saying something he believes harms his reputation.
This is hilarious and this is why Barry has played you all for gullible fools.
To file charges you must convince a prosecutor:
1. that a crime was committed
2. that the criminal act was a relevant infraction of published Dutch law
3. that the act occurred in Dutch territory
4. that the person/place that is harmed is covered by Dutch law.
5. that any legal claims asserted by claimants have standing before the
relevant court of law.
Dutch law doesn't matter in Amerika. Barry doesn't matter in Amerika.
FFL is none of the above.
The hammer cracks.
The case is closed.
Read it weep at your gullibility. Read it and laugh at the absurdity.FFL is not
the final archipelago of 18th Century European legal hegemony.
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