Sherry,
I will keep Brian in my thoughts.
Susan J. DuBose ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
As Cleopatra lay in state,
Faithful Bast at her side did wait
Right now I know of another shelter that has 100+cats living cage free under
one roof that are not declawed.
Any of them.
There have not been any serious cat fights or injuries, either.
Declawing is nothing more than a mutilation.
And it should be illegal.
Susan J. DuBose
,
Lola being a doll faced Persian Ursula being a British Shorthair
Sealpoint
Looks like my little Pugsley on the cover only w/long fur, flamepoint all!
He was a tough little cookie, medically..
He was @ the vet clinic for 6 months!
Susan J. DuBose
Lovely!
Thanks so much for sharing..:)
Susan J. DuBose ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
As Cleopatra lay in state,
Faithful Bast at her side did wait
Ahhh, adorable!
Thanks for sharing.. :)
Susan J. DuBose ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
As Cleopatra lay in state,
Faithful Bast at her side did wait
Hereis the website for the cat furniture that I recently bought.
www.fandangocatfurniture.com
I have 3 of the deluxe trees trimmed out in the leopard carpet.
Susan J. DuBose ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
Yes, and there is absolutly NO cardboard
All wood,which makes them nice heavy, no tip over..
Susan J. DuBose ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
As Cleopatra lay in state
-active with the
Pedialyte, NutriCal and antibiotics. I would give anything to have her
playing with her toys again.
How do you find a vet who treats with Interferon?
~ Susan A.
that I
worked @.
Susan J. DuBose ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
As Cleopatra lay in state,
Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
Purring welcomes
WHAT?
This shelter does not separate fiv+ and felv+.?
What kind of place is this?
Why would you expose a fiv+ cat to felv?
And vice versa?
Susan J. DuBose ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
As Cleopatra
This sheltermixes felv+ cats w/ fiv+ cats,due to lack of space to separate..!
Read below.
What kind of hellhole is this?
It's called crash landing
PLease do not forward..
Susan J. DuBose ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
Do the words FLOCK, AngelWings, Wild Cat Ranch or ARC (in Dallas) ring ANY
bells w/anyone?
You cannot run a shelter and mix diseases.
Susan J. DuBose ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
As Cleopatra lay in state
it?
Yes, I know, easier said than done.
But everything is small steps.
That is what I have had to do for years.
And it does hurt.
Susan J. DuBose ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
As Cleopatra lay in state
is deliberately exposing cats to felv and
fiv.
While she runs a shelter and collects donations.
If anyone needs to leave this list, it would be me.
I am applaud by this behavior and cannot even remotely condone it just to
save someone's feelings.
Susan J. DuBose
I never said that you were evil.
But I think who ever is running this shelter is severely uninformed..@
best.
Susan J. DuBose ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
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is just about impossible.
Susan J. DuBose ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
As Cleopatra lay in state,
Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
Purring
incidences right now, as I speak.
I don't support hack rescue work nor hack vets.
Susan J. DuBose ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
As Cleopatra lay in state,
Faithful Bast at her side
Sorry, the hellholecomment was not meant to go to the list.
My mistake (yes,even I make them).
However, I standby my opinion.
Susan J. DuBose ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
As Cleopatra lay in state
.
Susan J. DuBose ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
As Cleopatra lay in state,
Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
Purring welcomes of soft applause
knowif you have any questions, goodl luck!
signed,
Susan in Texas that doesn't know what she is talking about,as usual...
:)
Susan J. DuBose ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
As Cleopatra lay in state
They will need @ least 2 dewormings, 2 weeks apart.
The only worm that you *normally* see is tapes,so,they could still have worms
if the eggs have hatched since the last deworming.
I would take them in for fecal, just to be safe.
Susan J. DuBose ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
Bad diarrhea smellis usually a sign of coccidia.
P.U.!
Satan's Minions,how funny!
I have a cat named Minion.
She's mommy's Little Minion AKAS Bay-Bay.
Susan J. DuBose ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
.
Today she is playful, but thin. We're trying to fatten her up a bit and get
her energy levels back up. She's such a precious blessing, we are very
grateful that she turned around.
~Susan A.
been.
~Susan A.
and see if things improve here, but the drama is
unbearable at this point. Even after Susan D. has left the group, we are still
arguing about this! Enough already.
Melissa
-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
) }MC,
I was referring to your comment that Susan is not licensed to make those
statements. All I was asking was that if you do not agree with what she
recommended, that you set us straight instead of continuing the fight. I agree
that newcomers may not know when they are getting harmful
Since Autumn has been sick the vet didn't want to give her her booster. The
first time she got sick was two days after her first shots. She was found
outside and was relatively healthy. Has anyone else had problems with a cat
with viremia and vaccinations? Just curious.
~Susan A.
Ditto on testing for feleuk. Generally if you wait 2-3 months and retest there
is a good chance the result will be negative for feleuk. Have seen it happen
several times.
gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't heard of the SNAP test being any
more inclined toward false
positives on young
,
Susan A.
feel so bad for her. It is becoming apparent to me that we might not win
this fight for her life. There are no holistic vets near us.
~Susan A.
in our
area. Thank you again. She is a healthy, happy 15 week old. Cute as a button
and highly rambunctious! She used to sleep on the floor, but now she sleeps
in the bed curled up against my neck and when she sleeps deeply her little
tongue sticks out. So cute!
~Susan A.
.
St. Francis
- Original Message -
From: Susan Ang
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:08 PM
Subject: Autumn - Update amd Transfer Factor Question
Hey Everyone,
Thank you so much for the support and kind messages. Autumn has
and give her
the I/D formula? She's also had terrible kitty gas.
Thanks,
~Susan A
I have to leave for work soon so I'll probably have to call this evening. (If
it's slow I may be able to call from work.) What is your area code?
Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Susan, you need to call me. I am at
work and I could not hold it
together so I am leaving. I may go
, especially if
you know how to get a lawyer. I have never needed one before.
On 11/9/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have to leave for work soon so I'll probably have to call this evening.
(If it's slow I may be able to call from work.) What is your area code?
Kelley Saveika
needed one before.
On 11/9/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have to leave for work soon so I'll probably have to call this
evening.
(If it's slow I may be able to call from work.) What is your
area
code?
Kelley Saveika wrote:
Susan, you need to call me. I am at work and I could
thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade
~~~
- Original Message
From: Susan Ang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2007 1:37:47 PM
Subject: Autumn and Diarrhea
Hey All,
Autumn is doing really well overall. She's been feeling so good
I order zithromax from www.1drugstore-online.com Much cheaper than US prices.
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That sounds like good advice! Usually, the agency I work
http://www.myfoxaustin.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=73B37C7EB953F92DE72091AC38484F0C?contentId=4971854version=1locale=EN-USlayoutCode=VSTYpageId=1.1.1sflg=1
Susan J. DuBose ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
Hello, just thought you would like to see this.
Please click onto www.austinhumanesociety.org
and
www.shadowcats.net
if you REALLY want to help the cats.
Susan DuBose
Sheila Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I attended the hearings today. I saw the video and listened to the court
.
Susan J. DuBose ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
As Cleopatra lay in state,
Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
Purring welcomes of soft applause
So sad, for the cats.
Good luck w/ your life, you obviously live it through very thick rose tinted
glasses
Susan J. DuBose ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
As Cleopatra lay in state
It is also possible to give your cats a cold. Again, it depends on what
organism is causing the upper respiratory problem. There are 100s out there
and some can be passed between species and others cannot.
MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: depends of which organism is causing
the
.
Five have been adopted including one (Cinderella)
I adopted myself and two that were adopted by Susan,
six are going to barn placement, two will go to
Best Friends, two are still too weak to place and
are recovering from the effects of poor nutrition
and dehydration (one of which had to have
, considering that they
obviously have lots of energy,
and they could take that and devote it all to taking care of cats
instead siphoning off some to
beat dead horses. That's how it goes, I guess.
Lance
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:09:19 -0800 (PST), Susan Hoffman
said:
And why is it on this list
would like to
know the disposition of some of the fifteen cats we
rescued.
Five have been adopted including one (Cinderella)
I adopted myself and two that were adopted by Susan,
six are going to barn placement, two will go to
Best Friends, two are still too weak to place and
are recovering
traumatized by
the whole animal control/seizure/shelter cage experience.
Could you simply forward my posts on this topic to sheila or susan or
whomever has these cats? I'm active with Fix Our Ferals in Oakland, CA and on
a nationwide feral cat list with almost 3000 members. We should
And if the cats have already been transferred to barn homes perhaps we can
retrieve them and work on indoor placement with an eye towards socialization
for adoption.
glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bless your heart...I sure will...
--- Susan Hoffman wrote:
Shelters put a lot of cats
Consider tritrichomonas foetus, which is similar to giardia but requires
treatment with ronidazole. (Info at
http://www.bengalcatclub.com/downloads/HealthDIARRHEA1-06.pdf or via google.)
A lot of times, fecal tests show nothing even when something is definitely
there.
And a lot of
You're actually off to a very good start.
- Keep holding and petting, whether they admit to liking it or not, and keep
the feathery toys handy.
- Keep them in a very small space so you can easily get your hands on them.
- Add a little meat baby food to your repertoire, especially
Metronidazole can in very rare instances cause convulsions. Very rare though.
Untreated giardia is far more dangerous.
And, uh, Caroline, if you ever catch giardia from a foster kitty, we're going
to have to discuss some grooming issues. Transmission is a fecal to oral
route. So don't
You've found their Achilles heel -- their appetites! Work it. Meat baby food,
a little roast chickenThey'll learn to appreciate people very quickly at
that rate.
Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .hmmessage P { margin:0px;
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Yep, treat that boy! I'd go with ronidazole rather than flagyl/metronidazole.
Ronidazole will treat giardia and tritrich.
What dosage of metronidazole was he previously on and for how long? Don't
count on fecal tests to be accurate. They really aren't especially in the
early stages.
Please do not assume IBD. That's basically a default diagnosis when nothing
else makes sense.
1. How long was he on metronidazole and at what dosage?
2. Has your vet considered tritrichomonas foetus and treatment with
ronidazole? (Tritrich is really pretty common. Until recently
Don't worry about FIV. It's very hard to transmit except through deep
penetrating bite wounds. (I have an FIV+ cat of my own, have had others, and I
moderate an FIV group. Email off-list if you want more detail on this.)
FIP -- first off all, no way can it be diagnosed visually. It's
uveitis most certainly can be a symptom of dry FIP. But it can also be a
symptom of so many other things. Dry FIP is especially hard to diagnose
because the possible array of symptoms are so generic.
Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Yes I agree and I would think more
likely FELV than
firmed up
soon after.
~Susan A.
ornaments for the Christmas tree so she could climb up and knock them out.
Her current favorite thing is to play fort in my large cooking pot. No
matter where we put it, she seems to find it and sits in it. So I have
surrendered it to her and it's sitting in our living room:-)
~Susan A
the the vet
on Thursday
~Susan A.
don't usually post because I'm a FeLV noob! However, I've learned
a lot from this list and thought I'd post this since it worked well for
Autumn.
~Susan A.
uncooperative. Also this was the best way to get her used to the routine.
When I started she had red gums, bad breath, and seemed to be having a hard
time with hard food, but now her mouth looks very healthy. Good luck!
~Susan A.
Does anyone know anything about a San Diego area rescue called Chateau De
Meow? Someone I know sent some FIV and FeLV cats there recently but I can't
find any info on the place and I'm a little concerned. Supposedly they are a
no kill rescue/sanctuary and they have an active adoption
cycle was very stressful for her.
~Susan A.
: Hi Susan,
The place is called Chateau Du Meow (note the Du - not De)
and it's been closing since at least the end of 2003 or 2004
according to the news accounts I've seen.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20031209-_1m9cats.html
http://www.delmartimes.net/archives/articles011604.html
Has anyone suggested getting Duchess vaccinated against FeLV and offering these
people assistance in placing Tommy while they foster him?
Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Feline Leukemia Kitty Needs Home
Tommy is a one-year-old orange and white Tabby that came to our apartment on a
about my little bug.
~Susan A
squirt.
~Susan A.
I am so sorry for the loss of BooBoo. I know that nothing I can say can take
away the pain, but I am thinking about your family. I am terribly sorry. He
sounded like such a sweetheart. Peace and blessing to you. *HUGS*
~Susan A.
California and Texas are really different. We have very specific laws on the
books governing seizures, very rescue friendly state laws. Sally is in the San
Jose area, about an hour south of me.
I'll call her and get some details. I know California rescue law pretty
well. Let me find
on this case in this blog:
http://laanimalwatch.blogspot.com/
California is definitely not on my list of safe places to own animals.
But I don't know about San Jose.
On 3/11/08, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: California and Texas
are really different. We have
touch during my house fire in August and in the
current dealings with a really ugly hoarder situation.
Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you Susan and Kelley for your replies and concern. I'm sure Sally will
appreciate any help or advice you can give her. I have an unreasonable fear
elsewhere, it's really impressive.
Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hopefully she will call you back. I'm glad there is good AC somewhere.
On 3/12/08, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried calling last
night but got voicemail. Lefft my name and number but have
the
management is committed to power-within, and not power-over, which is not the
most usual attitude in law enforcement.
send thank-you notes to the good acos you encounter, please
MC
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'll try her again
. Please
help.
~Susan A.
Different drugs have different absorbtion rates. We could not do transdermal
prozac wth Peepers because we could not tailor the dose reliabily when given
through the skin. If your vet prescribed a certain med, ask the vet at thaty
time if transdermal is an option.
Laura Mostello [EMAIL
Any med can be compounded. It has nothing to do about the medication. It's
just how it is delivered.
Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use pet health pharmacy out of
Arizona. You might contact them and ask. I would doubt any common meds like
that would be compounded, but could be
Hi. I've just moved into a house in Oakland, California and learned that one
of the stray cats living outside (they came with the house) is FeLV+. I am
told that she has tested positive 4 times using different tests.
This is a sweet young orange girl, definitely tame. She should have a home.
coat.
She's about 15 months old now.
~Susan
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 11:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We inherited a positive kitten a?number of months ago and don't know a
whole lot of what we should do to keep her healthy. Macy is such a sweet 7
month old girl. She normally has lots and LOTS
Looks like it.
How's your FeLv population anyway? (I have a lovely sweet FeLV+ girl --light
orange/buff tabby -- living outside a house I just rented in need of a home.)
--- On Wed, 10/22/08, Tad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Tad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk]
]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] seeking home for adult feluk positive
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 9:02 PM
Hi Susan
Every one has orange kitties lately...
I just brought home a young orange boy a couple months ago
and discovered I was having a heart attack
, as there literally is no
extra space for him (but there WOULD be for Stevie, since I could just put him
in with Martini and Rossi -- the two FELV+ orange kitties). Maybe we could make
a trade? If not... I could still consider Stevie.
Thanks,
Susan
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 11:17:41
Hello Folks,
I was on the list for a while several years ago when my kitty Shane was
first diagnosed as FeLV positive and then I dropped off due to time
constraints (and because he was doing so well). For the past four years I
have been treating him for ocular herpes, and then this past summer he
Lisa Cannata wrote:
Please visit www.imulan.com This is new treatment for FeLV and FIV cats. My
cat Carl has been on this med for about 2 weeks. And while it is really too
early to tell how much it will help him he is doing better! The study was
very positive and hopeful.
The cost was
that biting hurts. We love her, she can be very sweet,
but I wish I could break her of these attacks. I don't know if she's
frustrated or bored? She has a ton of toys and some are free-standing and
she can and does play with them by herself. I just don't know. Has anyone
else had this problem?
~Susan
I'm on Facebook and my cat Autumn has a Catbook. I also started a
Group for Felv+ cats and their owners.
Susan Ang
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 28, 2009, at 12:43 PM, Laura B laurai...@yahoo.com wrote:
I am on facebook! If anyone wants to friend me please note FeLV
on the request so I
on her Evo and prescription soft food as soon
as she could keep it down.
My mother also used Nutrical as a suplement for a 20 year old cat. She
lived to be 24! Not all cats like it though.
~Susan
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 24, 2009, at 9:33 AM, Diane Rosenfeldt
drosenfe...@wi.rr.com wrote
Laura,
I'm so sorry for your loss of beautiful Charlotte. My thoughts are with
you. :-( Sleep Sweet, Baby Girl.
~Susan
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Laura Mostello hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Charlotte has just passed away.
I came home from work, went into her room and she
it was the
distemper shot that did it. She was on antibiotics for almost a month! I
know the vets push for vaccinations, but rabies is all I will consider. I
wouldn't even do that, but I don't want to chance her biting someone and not
having it.
~Susan
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Cougar Clan maima...@duo
Permission to cross-post granted. Cross-posting encouraged. I have just a few
days to raise the money for Boscoe.
Boscoe's fundraising page is set up at
http://www.fundable.com/groupactions/groupaction.2009-05-26.2918289545
Boscoe’s a really hard luck boy. He used to be someone’s pet but
years in a sanctuary with friends of mine.
Boscoe sounds a lot like him.
Thanks for helping him.
Laurie
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:11 PM
Oh, forgot to mention one other thing -- he also had a lesion on his tongue.
No idea what that was about. Vet did not hazard a guess. But that made it
even more painful when he tried to eat before. This poor cat was not cut out
for street life.
--- On Tue, 5/26/09, Susan Hoffman
years in a sanctuary with friends of mine.
Boscoe sounds a lot like him.
Thanks for helping him.
Laurie
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:11 PM
something...
Laurie
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 4:01 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Qs re CA/Urgent: FeLV+ senior
come home
Michael
Co-Founder
Second Chance Meows
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 4:01 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject
Ask for torb-val syrup. We often use that for a few days following difficult
spays.
--- On Fri, 5/29/09, Jody Butler jbutler5...@bellsouth.net wrote:
From: Jody Butler jbutler5...@bellsouth.net
Subject: [Felvtalk] Thoughts Prayers Needed for Darcy
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date:
Let me add my thanks to everyone.
We got Boscoe to Char and Michael yesterday afternoon. He was GREAT on the
long car ride. Even though we set up the back seat for him, he rode most of
the way on my lap or on the driver's lap, or on the armrest between us. He was
looking out the window not
to say, the only
other FeLV+ cat in the household (they were sequestered together) seems kinda
lost, and I am a bit worried that he will be affected physically.
Thanks!
Susan
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this world.
On Jun 2, 2009, at 8:23 AM, Susan Finkelstein wrote:
My FeLV+ 5-year-old (or so) kitty died suddenly over the weekend and
I was wondering if anyone has had any similar experiences or heard
of any with otherwise (seemingly) healthy leuk-positive cats. He
seemed fine, thriving
. We buried him in
our yard, so he can stay close.
S.
From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 09:04:41 -0500
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sudden passing?
Susan, I'm so sorry for your loss. What was your baby's name? As others
have said, it sounds like
: Re: [Felvtalk] Looking for people with personal experience with 'Not
So' Purrrfect Angels Sanctuary in Fresno, CA.
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 4:35 PM
susan, wasn't it you who knew of
them?
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