RE: FOP wiki pages moved

[Alex McLintock]

As someone who has a FOP FAQ (which hasn't been updated in AGES) I strongly 
recommend everyone uses this Wiki.
Although it is a bit more free-form than a FAQ engine this generally 
results in more and better first level documentation.

Don't think of the Wiki as the final format of the documentation... it 
isn't but it sure beats loads of post-it notes.

Alex
http://www.OWAL.co.uk/cgi-bin/fopfaq.cgi


At 18:31 23/12/02, Rhett Aultman wrote:
Just a heads-up...I cleaned up the layout of the FopTasks page to make it 
more easily read and I also suggested two new tasks to be included in the 
layout manager portion...I would have added them on my own, but I felt it 
best to propose and permit voting.  Anyone who wants to weigh in is 
welcome to.
-Original Message-
From: Bertrand Delacretaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 3:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FOP wiki pages moved

As there is now an "official" Apache wiki [1], I moved the pages that
were on my server to

http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?FOPProjectPages

Please do any further work on them there. They still need some cleanup
after moving, I'll do it in January unless someone finds time to do it
before.

-Bertrand

[1] as announced on community@ - thanks Andy Oliver!



-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Available for java/perl/C++/web development in London, UK or nearby. Apache 
FOP, Cocoon,
Turbine, Struts,XSL:FO, XML, Tomcat, First meeting free.http://www.OWAL.co.uk/


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Using Apache FOP to create multiple-page PDFs using PDFDocumentGraphics2D

[Alex McLintock]

On Mon, 2002-12-02 at 03:40, jcplerm wrote:
> Is it possible, by any means, to use PDFDocumentGraphics2D
> (or any other FOP class) to generate a PDF document with multiple
> pages, so that each page contains a slice of a larger graph created
> using Graphics2D methods?



It probably isn't what you wanted to hear but you could possibly duplicate 
the image several times and possibly use SVG clipping on each one - but 
clip to a different region each time.

Assuming clipping is working

Alex




Openweb Analysts Ltd, London.
Software For Complex Websites http://www.OWAL.co.uk/
Open Source Software Companies please register here 
http://www.OWAL.co.uk/oss_support/


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Sample FO Documents

[Alex McLintock]

At 14:53 19/11/02, W. Eliot Kimber wrote:

As I mentioned in another forum, I have a fairly comprehensive set of 
samples, both contrived and realistic, that are available to any 
implemmentors. I'd be happy to provide these to the FOP team--


If no one else has the time then I will take these and try to incorporate 
them into a subdirectory of docs/examples
I am not a committer - but supposedly look after the FAQ

http://www.OWAL.co.uk/cgi-bin/fopfaq.cgi

(I don't personally have lots of time as I am doing publicity for myself in 
London looking for XML publishing work - but this sounds so important to 
help with the uptake of FOP that I'll make the time).

I don't really want to change the samples if they use XSL:FO features not 
implemented by FOP, but I may move them into a separate "not yet 
implemented" directory.

Are the XSL:FO files self documenting? do they say in the generated pdf 
what should appear?



Alex McLintock





Openweb Analysts Ltd, London.
Software For Complex Websites http://www.OWAL.co.uk/
Open Source Software Companies please register here 
http://www.OWAL.co.uk/oss_support/


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: new batik

[Alex McLintock]

Alex wrote:
> > Any chance of upping the version number of FOP to something like 0.91
> > because some people don't seem to like using software as low as 0.24

At 12:45 13/05/2002, Keiron Liddle wrote:
>I didn't know making software was as easy as setting a number.

I should have put a smiley in there but it is a serious point.

Some people are not using Fop because of its low version number.
You and I know that the version 1.0 will be the one which complies with the 
XSL:FO spec and we are a long way from that.
FOP does not cope with the whole spec but it is quite satisfactory for many 
jobs.
However there is a purely psychological problem with using software with 
such a low version number - it discourages some potential users.

That is why I suggested skipping some version numbers but still keeping it 
below version 1.0

Ale



Openweb Analysts Ltd, London: Software For Complex Websites 
http://www.OWAL.co.uk/
Free Consultancy for London Companies thinking of Open Source Software.


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: new batik

[Alex McLintock]

At 09:40 13/05/2002, Keiron Liddle wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Since a new beta of batik has been released I think we can go with this
>for the next release.


You mean we'll go with the next *release* of Batik with the next release of 
FOP...

We aren't shipping beta software with our release are we?

Any chance of upping the version number of FOP to something like 0.91 
because some people don't seem to like using software as low as 0.24

Alex





Openweb Analysts Ltd, London: Software For Complex Websites 
http://www.OWAL.co.uk/
Free Consultancy for London Companies thinking of Open Source Software.


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Any real-life business use ?

[Alex McLintock]

> Am Sonntag, 13. Januar 2002 23:31 schrieben Sie:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I have busy evaluated the FO technology and I would like to hear from
> > people that are using it for real-life business needs.

I have a client who is happily using Fop to produce pretty printable versions
of web tables (lots of financial figures) and charts. They are a very demanding
user and wouldn't accept the system if it didn't do what they wanted.

> > What kind of documents are they using it with ? What volume ? Embedding
> > it in servlets ? How do they cope with the "speed" ? How do they justify
> > using FO to their bosses ?

Tables of Figures and graphical charts.
Low volume indeed (but very powerful machines)
Embedded in servlets but due to IE bugs we sometimes had to save the whole pdf to disk
and then redirect the browser to the saved pdf file. This is *bad* for a high volume 
site.
The speed is acceptible. Most of the time we actually email the pdf to the user so 
speed is not an issue.
My contact in the client company didn't need to specify what tools he used to his 
superior:
he just needed to produce good printouts from the website.



London Business?
I am looking at providing some free Open Source consultancy to London businesses
so if you run Fop in London please visit http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ and fill in the 
questionnaire.

Alex McLintock


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
---
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/
COMPETITION : http://news.diversebooks.com/article.pl?sid=01/10/08/1947255

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Everything you'll ever need on one web page
from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts
http://uk.my.yahoo.com

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How to rotate text 90 degrees using fop, please help me???

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Manuel Moons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Does anyone know how I can rotate text 90 degrees, so that it appears 
> vertically.  I have used reference-orientation but this is not supported by 
> fop.  I also tried embedding SVG but this also was refused by fop, both 
> worked fine in Antenna XSL-formatter though.
> 

You need to be a bit more specific. Do you need the letters to appear the right way up 
but
immediately below one another or should the letters be on their side. If the latter 
should they go
down the page or up the page?

I have had this working fine by using SVG text. (I was using it for the axes of an SVG 
chart)
but this was six months ago.

I remember looking into this and seeing that the relevant XSL:FO functionality wasn't 
implemented
in FOP but this was a long time ago.

Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
---
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/
COMPETITION : http://news.diversebooks.com/article.pl?sid=01/10/08/1947255

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Everything you'll ever need on one web page
from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts
http://uk.my.yahoo.com

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: How can i optimize memory consumtion?

[Alex McLintock]

I expect the original author split up the 1700 pages document so that it was 
1700 documents each of 1 page. This is doable if you know where the page breaks are,
but not if you have to predict them yourself.

Alex

 --- Cyril Rognon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Do you mean you achieved this with the FOP0.20.2RC distribution ?
> 
> I am very much interested by your answer :)
> 
> Cyril
> 
> At 12:30 07/01/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> >I had the same problem. I was able to break the document into 1 page long
> >page-sequences and have been able to produce a 1700+ page document that
> >included images with less then 256MB or RAM.
> 
> 
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  

=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
---
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/
COMPETITION : http://news.diversebooks.com/article.pl?sid=01/10/08/1947255

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Everything you'll ever need on one web page
from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts
http://uk.my.yahoo.com

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: cannot not use certain character in xml to make pdf

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Nick Winger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> where  can i find a reference for all classes and methods for fop ?

Er, the javadoc which is generated when you build a source version



Alex

PS Feel free to tell me any FAQ and answers so I can add them to the FAQ I maintain at

http://www.owal.co.uk:8090/asf/fop.jsp



=====
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
---
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/
COMPETITION : http://news.diversebooks.com/article.pl?sid=01/10/08/1947255

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Everything you'll ever need on one web page
from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts
http://uk.my.yahoo.com

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Getting error running latest FOP

[Alex McLintock]

 --- "Kilmer, Erich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 


> I tried that FAQ link but it is broken.

If you tried http://www.owal.co.uk:8090/asf/fop.jsp then it is up and running fine.
Your firewall may be blocking the slightly abnormal port 8090.

Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
---
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/
COMPETITION : http://news.diversebooks.com/article.pl?sid=01/10/08/1947255

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Everything you'll ever need on one web page
from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts
http://uk.my.yahoo.com

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Basic aspects

[Alex McLintock]

 --- "Sander, Stefan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> There already IS a user mailing list:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 


It isn't listed on the page

http://xml.apache.org/mail.html

Perhaps someone with commit permission to the site cvs could change that.


Alex McLintock



=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
---
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/
COMPETITION : http://news.diversebooks.com/article.pl?sid=01/10/08/1947255

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Everything you'll ever need on one web page
from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts
http://uk.my.yahoo.com

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Problems with seeing pdf-files in IE 5.0

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Jim Urban <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > you also have to use an url with 
".pdf" at the
end
> The url the client is posting to is a servlet which uses FOP to generate a
> PDF and feed it back to the browser.  If the client post a request to
> myservlet.pdf the server will look for a file called myservlet.pdf and
> return a 403 when it can't find it.  So how do you use a url that ends with
> .pdf when using servlets?

If you can't set up an alias in the webserver as people have suggested you could 
always have a servlet class called "pdf" within a package "myservlet".
End result: myservlet.pdf





Could have sworn this was in the FAQ. 

Oh dear - that means the FAQ isn't good enough yet


Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
---
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/
COMPETITION : http://news.diversebooks.com/article.pl?sid=01/10/08/1947255


Nokia 5510 looks weird sounds great. 
Go to http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/nokia/ discover and win it! 
The competition ends 16 th of December 2001.

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

forwarded mail - windows-1250 encoding ?

[Alex McLintock]

Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:28:10 + (GMT+00:00)
From: Kristian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Alex McLintock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [FAQ] Encoding
:
:
:

Does FOP support windows-1250 encoding?


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Alternative to SVG

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Bill Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> There are several reasons for not converting the .eps graphics to a
> bitmapped format:

Yes - I agree, we had a bitmap logo which looks fine when being previewed on screen, 
but using an SVG vector graphic was much clearer when printed out.

I didn't spot whether you had looked into using Adobe Illustrator 9 to load the EPS
files and then save them as SVG. It may not do so perfectly but it is worth looking 
into. I don't know whether it can be automated though if you really do have thousands
of illustrations You *might* need to do a little bit of tweeking of the SVG
to get it to use the right namespaces and such like but I am sure that you 
could automate that...
 
The following URL may help you find other converters...

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/SVG-Implementations.htm8#convert  


Goodluck



PS My  FOP FAQ seems to be down. That'll teach me to put stuff on a box without
production level support. Sorry folks. Feel free to shout at me by email.

It looks like I've volunteered myself to improve Apache's Official FAQ system so 
maybe we'll move this off of my machine onto an official Apache one.

Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
---
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/
COMPETITION : http://news.diversebooks.com/article.pl?sid=01/10/08/1947255


Nokia Game is on again. 
Go to http://uk.yahoo.com/nokiagame/ and join the new
all media adventure before November 3rd.

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Flash and JGenerator

[Alex McLintock]

Hi folks, 

I noticed recently that the Flash Generator program JGenerator has "FOP support".

I am looking into doing some training courses using Flash and being able to do
PDF output of the training "slides" would be good.

Anybody here tried this out?

Cheers

Alex

=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
---
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/
COMPETITION : http://news.diversebooks.com/article.pl?sid=01/10/08/1947255


Nokia Game is on again. 
Go to http://uk.yahoo.com/nokiagame/ and join the new
all media adventure before November 3rd.

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [vote] Merging JFor with FOP

[Alex McLintock]

> > Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi people,
> > >
> > > recently, some code was donated to the Apache Cocoon project in order to
> > > connect it with JFor (www.jfor.org) which is a FO->RTF processor.
> > >
> > > It appeared evident to me (and to others, as I discovered later) that
> > > jfor and FOP are doing different things but could be an advantage for
> > > both jfor developers, jfor users, FOP users and FO visibility in general
> > > to join forces.

Can anyone give me a quick overview of jFor's capabilities? In particular I would
like to understand whether it only looks at text based capabilities of FO, or
whether it also can cope with (for example) table borders, GIF and JPG, and 
even SVG graphics?

I don't remember rtf having any kind of graphical capabilities, but maybe I'm
thinking of a very old spec.

I'm all for bringing new people on as committers if they have shown their 
open source commitment (no pun intended) but as I'm not a committer myself I don't
get a vote :-(

Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
---
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/
COMPETITION : http://news.diversebooks.com/article.pl?sid=01/10/08/1947255


Nokia Game is on again. 
Go to http://uk.yahoo.com/nokiagame/ and join the new
all media adventure before November 3rd.

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Servlet called twice

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Kuehnberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi,
> 
> My servlet can produce html or pdf, depending on a parameter which is
> passed.

ok.

> I read the discussion about that problem, but whatever I tried my
> servlet is still called twice when the output is pdf,
> if the out output is html the servlet is invoked just once.


hmmm. So what exactly have you tried? You really ought to be more explicit 
in asking for help. It is only polite.

 
> If someone can please help me with that

Well, lets see.

Step one: bring down Microsoft and stop your users from using Microsoft products.

Oh, that might be a bit outside your remit.

Step Two: 

Have you checked to see whether the first request is a HEAD request? if so then 
you probably don't need to respond with the full PDF that time.

If you still have the problem then the only solution I can suggest is that your
servlet *saves* the pdf to disk and returns the browser some html which corresponds
to a frameset. The frameset should have two frames, one zero height, the other full 
height.
The full height frame should point to the saved pdf.

Hopefully this will help.



=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: ETA on 0.20.2

[Alex McLintock]

 --- COFFMAN Steven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> No set date has been committed to. If you really need marker support, we'd
> be happy to get any patches you'd care to send. We are, after all,
> developing on a completely volunteer basis.
> -Steve

There was however at least one company willing to write patches on
a commercial basis. (Not mine - I'm too busy and don't know the source well enough).

Contact details in the FAQ.

http://www.OWAL.co.uk:8090/asf/fop.jsp

Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

FAQ

[Alex McLintock]

My Jyve based FAQ has been down for a few days, but should be back up now.

Feel free to email me with new additions, asking for improvements, and so on.

http://www.OWAL.co.uk:8090/asf/fop.jsp

Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Anything wrong with this code (please look at attachements)

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Carmelo Montanez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks it worked for me too now both 
in Netscape
and
> IE.  However what if I wanted to embed to PDF results from
> FOP inside some HTML code for formatting
> purposes?, is that possible at all.  What I mean is
> is possible to send the PDF and the HTML back to
> the client in some fashion?

Forget FOP for a minute and ask yourself whether such a thing is possible at all?

Where have you seen an html document with PDF embedded in it? It *might* be possible
to use the acrobat plugin in this way but try to find an example and I bet you
can't. Whenever I have seen the acrobat plugin it either opens up a new window or
takes over the entire window. 

You can of course send back an html page which *links* to other pdf documents, 
but that is about it. 

Then you might want to look at frames - it might be possible to have html in one
frame and a pdf document in another...

none of this has anything to do with FOP though.

Alex



=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Subscript in fop0_19_0 overlaps following line!

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Klosa Uwe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi,
> 
> I'm using FOP0_19_0 and I've got a problem with 
> 
> text.
> 
> the text overlapps the following line. Is this a known issue or is there a
> patch?
> 

Merely a misunderstanding I think.

You have essentially said to lower the text by half the line height - but 
not said to use characters half the size. 

What you really need to do is to reduce the font size at the same time as you change 
the vertical alignment.

Of course my reading of the FOP spec could be wrong about that - I've been wrong 
before :-)

Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: FOP & Xerces 1.4.3

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Michail Bikoulis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello,
> 
> As far as I can see from the name of the Xerces jar file in FOP, version
> 1.2.3 is used. I am having the problem where Xerces hangs when an error is
> encountered in the XML file. I found out by reading the xerces-dev mailing
> list archives that this problem is solved in later versions of Xerces.

You haven't said whether you have tried using Xerces to parse this file 
without FOP. 

Presumably it wouldn't be too hard to write a small Java program which
used Xerces to read in your XML file. If this fails in the same way then
the problem is probably not related to FOP at all. 

Alex



=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Performance and java 1.1

[Alex McLintock]

> Keiron Liddle wrote:
> [..]
> > So the question is: can we drop java 1.1 support and use better data
> > structures?

 --- Christian Geisert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> +1   (I think we should make this an "official vote")

I think that FOP is not really usable in Applets which is the only sensible 
reason for supporting JDK 1.1

PS What are the rules for an "official vote". I have been told off before
for voicing my opinion about a vote in another Apache project. Basically
I was told I couldn't vote because I hadn't contributed any source.
Shockingly enough this is true for FOP too.

Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: FOA (Formatting Object Authoring tool)

[Alex McLintock]

 --- "Giannetti, Fabio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> FOA is the first XSL-FO specific authoring tool, it helps you with
> pagination, page sequences and creates the transformation elements to
> convert multiple XML content files into XSL-FO.

.

> FOA is compatible with the XSL file generated by WH2FO (only 0.1.9 !!) and
> also is able to open the Attribute sets generated with WH2FO.
> FOA is available at : http://www-uk.hpl.hp.com/people/fabgia/foa/foa.html 
> There are some examples and a tutorial
> (http://www-uk.hpl.hp.com/people/fabgia/foa/tutorial/FOATutorial_files/frame
> .htm) to better understand how does it works.
> 

If someone can try this out I will add it to the web based FAQ.

Cheers

Alex
  

=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: running FOP on Tomcat3.2.3

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Liliana Selea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
>  I tried to run FOP-0.20 on tomcat 3.2.3. I replaced the jaxp.jar from
> Tomcat/lib with the latest version. I placed the xerces-1.2.3.jar and
> xalan-2.0.0.jar at he beginning of the Tomcat CLASSPATH(because tomcat uses
> SAXParser 1 and FOP users SAXParser 2). When I run the servlet, the tomcat
> server shuts down.

Shuts down or falls over in a heap?

> If I have the tomcat jars file first in the classpath and then the
> additional ones ( for FOP) I got an FopException: "Namespace not supported
> by SAXParser"

Surely Tomcat now lets you specify an XML parser in your web apps classpath which 
should be separate from its own classpath. I hope.  Did you say which version of 
Tomcat?

Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: FOP Bug Fixes

[Alex McLintock]

 --- "David S. Dixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve,
> 
> Thanks for the reply. Right you are - I subscribed to the list over the
> weekend.  By archive, do you mean the bugzilla search facility?
> 

Probably meant the archives of this mailing list. There are a couple mentioned in the 
FAQ
and on the website.

Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Layout Redesign

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Arved Sandstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> One thing I was going to suggest is, and since you mentioned pictures 
> anyway, is let's take this as a useful working high-level design 
> description, and convert it into a high-level design doc, complete with 
> static and dynamic diagrams (UML or whatever). Seems to me that with this 
> doc we are definitely at the stage where prose has maybe been taken about as 
> far as it will go.

Seconded. Clearer design docs will help get new developers and keep developers
on course. It also makes the whole project look more "professional" and
takes the sting out of refactoring the whole program :-)



Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How to generete PDF's where 'Text selection' is NOT allowed

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Dirk Versavel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear FOP users,
> 
> Is there a way to generate PDF in which the security property 'Text
> selection' is switched off?

Er - dunno. Sorry.

> If this is not possible using FOP, does any one know how to postprocess a
> PDF (automatically on a Linux machine) to switch this text selction off?

I seem to recall someone talking about some PDF post processors which could add
in the security features built into PDF. No doubt Adobe Acrobat could do it, 
but I assume you want something a bit less heavilyweight.
Looking at the archives 
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-dev&w=2&r=1&s=security&q=b


An article by Arved on the 28th of July 2001 said 

... FOP 
> > contains precisely zero source code to put an Encrypt key in the PDF
> > document trailer dictionary, and hence it is not possible for
> > documents
> > produced by FOP, out of the box, to have security.

Perhaps you could investigate whether there are some open source pdf post processors
and email your findings here.

Thanks

Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: FAQ site down?

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Gustavo Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all,
>  I am trying to access the FAQ site at http://www.OWAL.co.uk:8090/
> but cannot do it for already two days.
> 
> Is there a problem? if yes, is there another site with a copy of it?
> 
> Thanks,

Hi Gustavo, 

I'm terribly sorry about that. The site is not down - but I suspect that your local
firewall is not letting port 8090 through. This is quite reasonable of it.

The solution is that I get off my arse and set up apache server and tomcat 
to talk to each other properly. (Little things like being too busy with paying work
have put this lower and lower on my priority list).

Another part of the solution is that I produce a big html file which contains the whole
FAQ which can be put on a different site - or even emailed to you. This might work.

I had a volunteer unix admin person to help sort this out but he said he was going on 
holiday
and I don't remember his email address... 

Anyway SORRY! 
You have my permission to email me whenever you need something looked up in the FAQ :-)

Alex McLintock



=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug reports?

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Daniel Knapp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi,
> 
> I am new to this list and I wonder what happens to all the bugs reported
> here. Were they discussed in any way?

I guess that since this is the development mailing list for the fop developers
(and users who want to know more) this would be the main place for any
such discussions.

If you are interested in particular bugs then perhaps look at the archives for
this list.

Were you refering to the bugzilla bugs? 

Alex

=====
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: horizontal alignment

[Alex McLintock]

Added.

-->>
http://www.OWAL.co.uk:8090/asf/servlet/asf/screen/DisplayQuestionAnswer/action/SetAll/project_id/18/faq_id/276/topic_id/496/question_id/993
<<--

PS
I promised that I would produce a short xml version of this FAQ with only the 
essential 
questions. I'm not sure when this will happen :-(

The good news is that my new house is lovely and my bed is being delivered today so
perhaps I'll be able to get a good night's sleep.

Alex



 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 
> Since this seems to be a pretty common question, could we add this to the
> FAQ or somewhere in the distro?
> -Lou
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Giannetti, Fabio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 08/28/2001 08:54:45
> AM
> 
> Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> To:   "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> cc:
> 
> Subject:  RE: horizontal alignment
> 
> Hi,
>I think that you have to specify the display-align property to
> the
> region body ...
> 
>  page-height="297mm">
> 
> 
> 
> So everything inside that page (or sequence of the same page) will be
> rendered in the middle.
> 
> 
> Fabio
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthias Born [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 28 August 2001 13:45
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: horizontal alignment
> 
> 
> hi!
> 
> how can i place a table (the whole table, not the text) in the middle of
> the
> page, sth. like horizontal-alignment="center|middle"?
> 
> thx matze
> 

=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Fop and arabic

[Alex McLintock]

 --- adel ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all,
> 
> is it possible to render arabic characters from xml into pdf?
> what is the standard of encoding arabic characters in xml?

Hello Adel,

I don't think I've heard of anyone genuinely doing arabic stuff with FOP yet.
I think we would all be greatful if you could investigate further and possibly
submit your findings to this mailing list and even submit a test case for arabic.

My guess would be that you need to learn how to encode arabic as unicode in XML.
That is really not a subject for this list as it doesn't have anything to do with FOP.
You might want to investigate this on some of the more generic XML newsgroups or
mailing lists. 

You then (I think) need to understand how FOP uses fonts - since you will of course 
need
an arabic font.

Although xsl:fo has the capability to specify text which is written right to left, top
to bottom ("rl-tb" I think) I don't honestly know how well tested that code is.

Goodluck.

Alex



=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: FOP does not rendering PDF in IE5.5 SP1

[Alex McLintock]

 --- COFFMAN Steven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you're servlet URL is
http://www.myweb.com/servlet/Myservlet
> <http://www.myweb.com/servlet/Myservlet> 
> then use http://www.myweb.com/servlet/Myservlet?extension=.pdf
> <http://www.myweb.com/servlet/Myservlet?extension=.pdf> 
> so you know if IE's ignoring the Mimetype. If that's not it, then it's
> probably because you're using an older version of FOP. I believe (someone
> correct me) that IE should be ok with the latest release.
> -Steve

There are a variety of problems with Microsoft's IE. This solution cures the
problem for many people but I've also found situations where this extension isn't 
enough.
(In particular you may be posting to the servlet in which case adding 
"?something=.pdf" is
innappropriate. In such circumstances you might need to


1) Name your servlet "pdf" so that the URL looks like 

 http://www.myweb.com/servlet/MyservletPackage.pdf

2) Get your servlet to generate the pdf, save it to disk, send the browser a frameset 
which
gets the browser to load the previously created PDF in one of the frames.
   PS make sure you have at least two frames else you'll confuse netscape :-)

Hope this helps - I've been banging my head against this one for most of last week
because *all* the machines I had access to worked fine, and almost all the machines
used by my American users didn't work. We eventually tracked it down to a particular
build of IE 5.5 sp1, and even getting the build number didn't guarantee which version
was installed :-(

Alex

(Remember Folks, Any additions to the FAQ - post them here with a big sign saying
ANSWER SHOULD GO IN THE FAQ)







=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Fonts and reporting classes

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Arved Sandstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 
> >4. Just for curiosity, why isn't there a HTMLRenderer?
> 
> Lack of interest? I wouldn't recommend production of HTML from FO myself.
> 

I expect that most people follow the strategy of Cocoon and similar systems.
They have their source data in their own XML format. This is converted to
html for the website  by XSLT or something similar, and separately to XSL:FO for
processing by FOP. 

So usually no FO to HTML renderer is required. 

FO is optimised for describing pages - like laser printer pages, and so fo to html
wouldn't look very good.

Of course you could implement an entire website just out of PDF pages :-)

Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: bug in FopServlet

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Alex Greif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi,
> 
> the FopServlet example still uses the Driver.addPropertyList() method.
> please update the Servlet.
> 
> I'm running fop 0.20.1
> 
> Alex.

To pretend I'm Jon Stevens for a few seconds.

 a patch would be more than welcome.

Thanks for spotting that mistake.

Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How to monitor fop-dev without overloading my mailbox?

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Ralph LaChance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 09:03 AM 8/15/01 
+0100, you wrote:
> >I think there is a need for a batched fop-dev email subscription so that you
> >get one message a day with loads of messages inside it. I haven't seen the 
> >method
> >for doing this with this list though. If there is a way then perhaps that will
> >help...
> 
> Some of the Sun mailing lists (c.f. Java 2D) have a "daily digest" mode in 

Someone has already suggested this - it is a common feature of mailing lists.
I hadn't seen how to do it with this list but someone said it was possible so I 
read the signature attached to all messages on this list:

> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


and then emailed [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Oooh - it isn't a proper email address - ezmlm (the mailing list software)
comes back with a helpful error message. It doesn't say anything about 
digests though.

So I am left as before - not aware of any means to get this list in digest
format.

PS the error message suggests that you can get the fop-dev-faq by mailing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] but when you do so you only get an error in return.
Is this fixable? Who should I contact about it or can I fix it myself since 
I have an account on one of the apache.org machines

Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How to monitor fop-dev without overloading my mailbox?

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Ian Larner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Is there a way to monitor the fop-dev exchanges without receiving loads of
> emails?
> I'm thinking of some form of newsgroup subscription where I can scan the
> fop-dev list, and contribute, separate from my mail account(?)

I think there is a need for a batched fop-dev email subscription so that you
get one message a day with loads of messages inside it. I haven't seen the method
for doing this with this list though. If there is a way then perhaps that will
help...


Of course you could possibly just look at the web archives each day...


Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OutOfMemoryError

[Alex McLintock]

> >I got rid of memory problems by modifying the fop.bat file (fop.sh in your
> >case) with the following two command line options for the "java" command:
> 
> >-Xms64M -Xmx320M
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Mike 

I've added this to the FAQ. Remember to highlight answers on this list as suitable
for the FAQ and I'll copy them in

-->>
http://www.owal.co.uk:8090/asf/servlet/asf/screen/DisplayOneTopic/action/SetAll/project_id/18/faq_id/276/topic_id/495
<<--


Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: svg probs with 0.19.0

[Alex McLintock]

 --- "Maring, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> I'm not sure why this is happening.  Maybe somebody can help me?  My svg
> gets improperly generated through FOP 0.19.0 (I have not tried others).  The
> viewBox seems to be ignored and fill-rule:evenodd does not work.  Is this a
> Batik thing?  When I run the rasterizer in Batik 1.0 it seems to understand
> what I'm asking for.  The Adobe SVG viewer thinks my svg is OK too.
> 

I don't know for certain but I don't think viewBox is implemented yet - 
though I could be thinking of V 0.18

I think it is fair to say that a lot of the SVG spec is not yet implemented.

Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Using the latest FOP source with Cocoon.

[Alex McLintock]

> how would I go about contributing the update?


That is a question I can answer.

To contribute an update the simplest thing would be to post diffs
to this mailing list together with an explanation of what the patch does
and why you've submitted it. ( a test case would be good too!)

Hopefully a committer will implement the change, test it and ammend cvs.

If you do this often enough someone can explain the process of
becoming a committer so you can ammend cvs directly.


I am assuming that you know / can figure out how to do diffs

Alex



=====
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: table-footer question

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Philippe Van Der Gucht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello,
> 

> 2) a table footer which is always positioned at the bottom of the table.

It might not be what you want - but if the table is the only thing in the page then
you could put the table footer actually in the footer.

Goodluck!

Alex McLintock



=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jakarta Projects Communicating

[Alex McLintock]

Sam Ruby said:

> As I mentioned, one thing that
> drives me batty is projects not talking.  

There is no forum for Jakarta discussion. There is no mailing list for discussing
all the sub projects as a whole. 

Please prove me wrong!!!


Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: FOP FAQ suggestion

[Alex McLintock]

Regarding the FOP Faq-O-Matic? http://www.owal.co.uk:8090/asf/fop.jsp

I asked for Java programmers to help

> Maybe.  I do server-side Java -- servlets, JSPs, EJBs.  Is that in line
> with the kind of help you need?  (I'm also kind of busy contributing
> to Borland's newsgroups as one of their JBuilder TeamB members,
> so I don't know how much extra time I have.)
> 
> Paul Furbacher

Essentially the Jyve (Java FAQ-O-Matic) program is about a year old - and uses another 
Apache project called Turbine. Turbine is a web application framework library under 
constant
development. Unfortunately Turbine development continues and Jyve didn't.
The security mechanism changed including roles for users and so although people can
actually register with my FAQ system they don't have permission to enter things.
(I have superuser priviledges so I can add things in...)
This is one of the underlying problems with the main Apache FAQ (the one on apache.org)
You may have spotted "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mentioned on the FAQ home page along with
a grovelling apology for me not fixing it earlier.


The very good news is that there is a new version of Jyve around. Hooray. 
So the plan is.

1) Setup a new FAQ system with the new Jyve from CVS (including putting
   it on an installation of apache with a correctly configured mod_jk)
2) Copy the FAQ data from the old system to the new one. - preferably 
   in an automated fashion.

The FOP FAQ is the one I am most interested in, but there are all the 
other Apache FAQs too.

Once we have done this there are loads of cute features to add, but they are really
bells and whistles...

PS The CVS details are listed at

http://jakarta.apache.org/site/cvsindex.html

I have lost the details for the Jyve mailing list. I can post it next week and
maybe take this discussion off this list.




Alex McLintock


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

region-body / reference-orientation

[Alex McLintock]

Anyone want to help this person out? I wish I had a quid every time 
someone assumed that since I help out with the FAQ they could
ask me a question before mailing it to the list...


--
Originally from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Originally to: alex 
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 18:47:53 + (GMT+00:00) 


Subject: [FAQ] region-body / reference-orientation 
Hi, the reference-orientation is support in Fop?, this property not work "WARNING: 
property
'reference-orientation' ignored", this feature is support  in FOP ?.
 



=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Keep line breaks in blocks ?

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Romain Bourgue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm using XSLT with 
FOP to
genarate PDF from XML files.
> In my XML tags I have text "pre"-formated (with break lines).
> When I put this text into a block, it turns all lines into one same compact
> block.
> As "white-space" is not implemented yet in fo:blocks I'd like to know if
> there is a way to keep my break line in my fo:block ?

Would putting each separate paragraph in a separate block help you?
(and possibly putting all your blocks into another block)

Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Newbie question: FO files

[Alex McLintock]

 
> and reading. I have the first two of Elliotte Rusty Harold's XML books. 
> (Thanks!) Does the XML Bible 2nd Edition contain a lot of new information?

Elliotte says it does :-)

I've been told that my review of the 1st edition is out of date :-)

http://www.diversebooks.com:8088/examples/servlet/Turbine2/screen/MainMenu/screen/SearchResults/search/elliotte


>From Elliotte...

 If you're going to review it I'd appreciate it if you focus on the second edition 
which is not at
all out of date with respect to XSLT and XSL-FO. The first edition is most certainly 
out of date,
but it's also not being sold any more. The XSL-FO chapter from the second edition is at
 http://www.ibiblio.org/xml/books/bible2/chapters/ch18.html 


Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: FOP FAQ suggestion

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Paul Furbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 
> On Wednesday, August 8, 2001, Alex McLintock  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
> 
> > Hmmm, I guess I better put this in the FAQ.
> > Hmmm, I guess I better fix the FAQ.
> 
> Alex,
> 
> This is not meant as criticism.  In fact, thanks for all the work you've
> done so far to maintain the FAQ.
> 
> But, why not make life easier for yourself and set up a Faq-O-Matic?

What - you mean like the one I already use?

I am actually one of the world's biggest users of Jyve - a Java based FAQ-O-Matic
based upon Apache software Turbine (and MySQL).

It may not have the pedigree of the old perl based FAQ-O-Matic but 
Well I have my own reasons to use this FAQ-O-Matic servlet rather than the classic 
FAQ-O-Matic


I have set up a program which is available on http://www.OWAL.co.uk:8090/asf/fop.jsp
This however has two main faults.

1) It is on port 8090 and not 80. This is an apache administration issue which I don't
   really have time to sort out.
2) It doesn't allow people to register themselves. This is another configuration issue.

Now I intend to replace this system with the latest version of Jyve and solve 
both of these problems but I'm in the middle of buying a house and so my spare time
is a bit limited.

It is however working quite well (IMHO). It only takes me seconds to spot a useful
answer presented to this mailing list and to add it into the FAQ


PS My own Jyve FAQ is available at

-->>
http://www.owal.co.uk:8090/asf/servlet/asf/screen/DisplayTopics/action/SetAll/project_id/18/faq_id/277
<<--

It also contains a number of "Future Enhancements" which I have been talking about for 
ages and
really need to sort out. Any java programmers interested in helping out?




=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Using FOP 0.19-CVS to create PDF

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Don Wellington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Arved-
> 
> It is with FOP-0.19 not the latest CVS.  I am stuck
> behind a firewall, so CVS is not really an option.


I thought that too for some time but using WinCVS I managed to download
the CVS version from CVS. You need to tell WinCVS about your firewall proxies.


Alex

=====
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: FOP Servlets being invoked twice

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Alex Amies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> I have a problem with a servlet, which serves up pdf documents, 
> invoking the servlet twice for every time I request the
> url using my browser.  The pdf document is produced 
> correctly in both instances.  Anybody else seen this
> problem, know what it is, or have a constructive suggestion?

If you check the mailing list archives you will see that at least one person
has seen this problem (with IE I think) and can't find a way around it.
However I don't see it myself so it might be fixable.


> long sixty = System.currentTimeMillis() + 60*1000;
> res.setDateHeader("Expires", sixty);

This is the only bit I am worried about - how does this help?

Since you've mentioned servlets I'll throw my problem into the fray.

I've seen the content size problem (which you have correctly solved in your code)
but now I have a problem with a particular build of IE. Basically the PDF doesn't 
appear -
in fact neither does acrobat reader
The problem occurs on the IE version 5.50.4522.1800 and not with other IE5.5 versions, 
eg.
5.50.4134.0600.

(Incidently the data is submitted to the servlet using Post - apparently this is
the cause of the bug in IE)

Now I got so fed up with this that I tried saving the PDF file to disk and then issuing
a redirect to the static PDF file. Hooray this works in the problem version of IE.
Oh b(*&^(*er it no longer works in the older versions of IE.

I've tried the servlet "sendRedirect", I've tried a Location header with relative and 
absolute URLs, I've even just tried a "Refresh" header. Nothing seems to work.

So folks - what are your servlet experiences?

I feel like I'm going round in circles here. 

The one thing I haven't really done is to change the URL to end with ".pdf" 
Basically I can't create a class called "something.pdf" so haven't created a servlet  
with that name yet. I've tried servletname;stupidie.pdf but that didn't seem to help.


Alex




=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Newbie question: FO files

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Ulrik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, 
> 
> I recently downloaded FOP and played around with it since I was searching a
> way to convert the XML-source of a website into a printable version (for
> example creating a printable version of a xml-driven ecommerce-product
> cataloge)
> 
> I wasn't able to produce a .pdf from my XMLs with the working XSL, but I was
> successful with the "test" fo-files from the FOP distribution.
> 
> Now, what are Fo-files? (I said I was a newbie!)

FOP reads in XML in a particular XML format defined in the XSL:FO spec.
We usually give these xml files the fo extension and call them fo files.


> Can I transform my XML into those .fo-files?

Some people take their XML and convert it into the alternative XML fo format
prior to feeding to FOP. Hopefully you know enough XSL/XSLT to convert your
XML into XSL:FO.


Alex ("Whadya mean the web based FAQ isn't on port 80") McLintock



=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Problems running FOP

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Agnes Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all,

> My problem is that the Windows ZIP format binary downloads are not available 
> any more.

And this is a problem how exactly?
 
> As I haven't been able to get FOP running on Windows ME system, I worry that 
> perhaps extracting the UNIX .tar files on Windows introduces subtle 
> corruptions. Could someone clarify why Windows ZIP downloads are no longer 
> available?

WinZip will extract tar.gz files without any problems as will many other
MS Windows archive tools.

It should be very obvious to you if file corruption occurs. Java will almost
certainly tell you. However my colleagues have just informed me that you
might just get a "Class Not Found" error instead. Perhaps you could explain
more about what your problem is (apart from using Windows ME that is :-)



Hmmm, I guess I better put this in the FAQ.
Hmmm, I guess I better fix the FAQ.

Alex
  

=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PDF > FO

[Alex McLintock]

 --- "Rybin, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Has anyone seen/tried reversed process of converting from PDF to FO format?

Could have sworn someone just asked that question a day or two ago. 
Perhaps searching the archives might help.

My answer as before is "what are you trying to do?"


> Or from any other non-XML formats.

Not sure what you mean? I typically generate FO from a relational database, 
and also from a java applet. Do you mean "Is there an MS Word to FO converter" ?
(Replace "MS Word" by whatever you like...)


Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: XSL-FO Engine comparisons

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Darren Munt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 
> But you're right - nobody should be using the processor in production. Not
> yet. When we think it's ready we'll say so.
  

I've been using FOP in production for over six months, nearer twelve.

This is only possibly however because we have a small set of required pages.
We were able to test the fo templates prior to going live and the features we need
work fine.

So using FOP in production is no different from any other open source project:

  Test it to see whether it does what you want.


Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Fatal error again

[Alex McLintock]

I assume the person who posted me this is getting this error and wants to know
more...It doesn't really look like volunteered information for the FAQ.

Alex


Originally from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 08:21:20 + (GMT+00:00) 

Subject: [FAQ] FATAL ERROR null 
Driver driver = new Driver();
driver.setRenderer( Driver.RENDER_PDF );
org.apache.fop.apps.InputHandler inputHandler = new 
org.apache.fop.apps.XSLTInputHandler(xmlFile,
xslFile);
//on this line I obtain FATAL ERROR null XMLReader parser = inputHandler.getParser();
driver.buildFOTree(parser, inputHandler.getInputSource());
driver.format();
driver.setOutputStream(new FileOutputStream(new File("d:\\test.pdf")));
driver.render();

 





=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Question and FAQ

[Alex McLintock]

 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 
> Hi,
> 
> Sorry for this may-be very common question, but I can't reach the FAQ
> because it is on the 8090 port and our firewall doesn't let us use this
> port. Is there another way to reach the FAQ (through a 'normal' port)?

Sorry - My fault. One of several faults with the FAQ which I meant to 
sort out but never found the time to do so. Any apache server experts in London
want to give me a hand compiling an apache server with all the features I need? 

  :-)

Feel free to pester me every few weeks to sort this out.

> Therefore here is my qustion:
> 
> I tested my xsl-fo with FOP using the -awt option to preview it. Very nice
> and handy. But I realised that the 'real' PDF doens't appear the same as
> the awt preview!!! Manly with the table borders! How come the rendering is
> better on the previewer than on the pdf file? Is there a way to change it
> (except waiting for you guys who make a fabulous job to finish it)?

I'm pretty certain that question isn't in the FAQ so asking it here is the correct
thing to do. 

Personally I am not surprised that the AWT preview isn't identical to the PDF file...

Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: pdf to xml ?????

[Alex McLintock]

 --- rajeev nair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi all,
> How can i convert pdf files into xml files.
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
> regards
> rajiv

1) When asking questions like this it is best if you give more details of what you are 
trying 
to do. Are you trying to create structured xml of the content of a PDF file, or are 
you trying to
get an XSL:FO representation of the whole page?
Are you trying to convert PDF into SVG?

2) FOP is a rendering tool for XSL:FO so this is off topic.

Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Current state of fonts+PDF files??? (embedding fonts in pdf)

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Jeremias Maerki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Now, the faq states that 
FOP does not
support embedding fonts in PDF
> > documents.  Is this information current?  I see the barcode fonts in my
> > generated PDF document on my local development machine.  Is there planned
> > support for embedded fonts in PDF?
> 
> That's not correct anymore: FOP does support embedding of TrueType and
> Adobe PostScript Type 1 fonts. See the documentation on how to do this.
> 
> 
> Alex, would you mind changing the entry in the FAQ?
>
http://www.owal.co.uk:8090/asf/servlet/asf/screen/DisplayQuestionAnswer/action/SetAll/project_id/18/faq_id/276/topic_id/496/question_id/800
> 

DONE!

Your wish is my command! Notice that I clearly dated the answer saying that it
wasn't implemented at that time (Dec 2000). The question and answer now states:

How do I embed fonts into the PDF? 

[OLD ANSWER: Currently, there is no support for embedding fonts into the PDF file. 
(source Stephan
Albers 20 Dec 2000) ]  

That's not correct anymore: FOP does support embedding of TrueType and Adobe 
PostScript Type 1
fonts. See the documentation on how to do this. 
See here http://xml.apache.org/fop/fonts.html to find out how to add fonts to FOP and 
how to
embedd them into the target PDF. Currently, FOP supports embedding of TrueType and 
Adobe
PostScript Type 1 fonts. 

Jeremias Märki, July 2001 
 

---

Folks - remember that I am not a perfect FOP expert - I need a hand coming up
with FAQ questions and answers for many topics. 

Also feel free to pester me about features you want to see added to the FAQ 
eg seeing the whole faq on one page!!!

Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: FOP - servlet - barcode font

[Alex McLintock]

> > 3) I can find no documentation on using imported fonts in my servlet.  I see
> > the -c commandline parameter to specify a configuration file.  I looked at
> > some of that code, Fop, and found the Options class and a few others.  How
> > do I load conf/userconfig.xml in my Driver within my servlet?
> 
> Solution to this has also been posted to the list recently - maybe this
> should enter the documentation and/or faq?
> 
> Tore

I haven't really added much font handling stuff to my online FAQ because
I don't need it myself and therefore haven't been following the discussions.
Please post to this list some idiot proof questions and answers suitable
for inclusion in the FAQ, and label them something like "FOR THE FAQ".


PS
I am still getting emails from people asking me about FOP and I keep on 
having to tell them - use the mailing list.




Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: RE: tables in PDF

[Alex McLintock]

I believe this is a bug which several people have spotted (myself included) which 
AFAIK has not been fixed yet (I don't use the latest CVS build, but 0.18).

The symptoms are that although there *is* space to put the last few items in a right
hand table cell some of those items get pushed onto the next page for no apparent 
reason.

I end up juggling things around to get it working. Simply specifying the width of the 
table 
doesn't really help.

Alex


 --- Raju Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 
> Hi Jim and Raghvendra,
> 
> Best way is to specify the column width of entire table such that it fits the width 
>of the
> paper!.
> 
> I mean that is how it should be normally. unless u have different type of problem/.
> 
> Raju
> 
> - Original Message --
> "Jim Urban" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From:"Jim Urban" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date:Wed, 25 Jul 2001 07:18:11 -0500
> Subject:RE: tables in PDF
> 
> I have the same issue with FOP 0.19.  If anyone can figure this out, please
> post it so I can get a copy of the solution too.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jim Urban
> Product Manager
> Netsteps Inc.
> Suite 505E
> 1 Pierce Pl.
> Itasca, IL  60143
> Voice:  (630) 250-3045 x2164
> Fax:  (630) 250-3046
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Vaidya, Raghavendra (CORP, GEITC)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 11:09 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: tables in PDF
> 
> 
> Hi,
> I am trying to print a big table in which the rows span more than one page.
> In some cases a part of the row at the end of the page is flowing to next
> page.
> How to keep all the rows on the same page.
> I am using FOP 0.17
> Can some body help me
> Thsnks in advance
> Raghavendra
> 
> 
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> Raju Dave
> iORMYX GmbH
> Frankfurt am Main
> Germany
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> _
> For Rs. 2,000,000 worth of Aptech scholarships click below
> http://events.rediff.com/aptechsch/scholarship.htm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  

=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Test case for FOP?

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Sacha Labourey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello,
> 
> We have a set of documentations for the JBoss J2EE application server
> Project (http://www.jboss.org/) that is written in XML DocBook and than
> transformed in FO through well known XSL scripts.

Sascha, 

I am contracted to a company in London which is using FOP and JBoss in the same 
department
(but on different projects) 

I can possibly arrange to spend some time helping out with JBoss Docs -> XSL:FO -> PDF
or preferably arrange to have an intern work on it.

Are you part of the JBoss development team - or merely a user?


Are your documents describing JBoss - or your own EJBs?


I am also wondering if there is a simple DocBook->XSL:FO conversion process.
It is something which I have been asked before.



Alex McLintock
online FOP FAQ Maintainer - so email me your hints and tips.





=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Keep-together (and the other keep-*'s)

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Struan Judd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If so might I request a small departure from the XSL:FO spec, if it is
> straight-forward to implement. Please allow keep-together on fo:table-row.
> 

I don't think deviations from the XSL:FO spec are either wise or going to 
be popular. 


Alex

=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: JRun exited abnormally...

[Alex McLintock]

Ok - so what does this tell you?

a) Your JRun failed for some reason
b) You should be using a proper servlet engine.

Now what has this got to do with FOP? 

Oh ok - I'll try to be helpful for a few minutes.

Basically by adding classes to JRun's classpath you have added to the classes and
packages available to it. Jrun needs certain standard things - like an XML parser.
What you have probably done is to replace the old XML parser used by JRun with 
a later one from Apache. This would be fine if it worked - but it looks like you
haven't fully installed it.

Now ideally JRun should have two totally separate classpaths - one for the 
servlet engine itself - which you don't change - and one for each 
servlet zone  for servlets(and jsp's)  (I think JRun calls them "jsm"s.)

If you want to install FOP you should be ideally be installing FOP as part of a
servlet.

--

Ok - now if this is all old hat to you and you are pointing out the mistakes in
the above explanation lets think about what you can do:

1) put the all FOP classes onto the *end* of your classpath of a single JSM.
You might find a file called jsm.properties (but that is from my experience of
a really old version of JRun on unix). Alternatively you might be able to set this
up with the GUI.

2) Ask in a JRun mailing list how to add new classes properly.

3) If you ammend the setup of some software you really should be able to back out
your changes in case you mess up. If you can't then you only have yourself to blame.

Alex



 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 
> 
> Hi all!
> 
>  I have installed JRun 3.0 on Win 2000 machine. I installed it as
> application not as windows services. It was working quite fine but then i
> added a couple of jar files in JRUN\servers\lib\ext and some jsps and
> classes in my web application while the server was running. Then i
> restarted the server. The server did not start and gave the error
> "JRun exited abnormally Check evenet log". I checked the log file and found
> out that it gave error on loading default-app.
> The error is
> "error (JRun) JRun Aborting! [javax.xml.parsers.FactoryConfigurationError:
> java.lang.classNotFoundException:
> org.apache.Crimson.jaxp.SAXParserFactoryImpl]"
> 
> Now no server is running even the admin server. Can anybody help me out of
> this.???
> Thanx
> Wajid
> 
  

=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Browser and Reader Versions supported

[Alex McLintock]

 --- "Yalavarthi, Vasu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
>  I wanted to know what Web Browser(IE) and Acrobat Reader versions FOP(FOP
> generated PDF) supports.

You might rather ask yourself what versions of IE are totally brain dead and
written by a company that 

You could argue that if Acrobat doesn't read it then it isn't PDF.

> Right now we are also using iText, the generated PDF doesn't render on
> certain browser/reader combinations.

This is almost certainly down to combinations of servlet set up, browser 
set up, and acrobat plugin configuration. It is unlikely to be down to
the software which generated the PDF. Perhaps you might benefit from some
PDF validation tools to confirm that the generated PDF conforms to the spec.

I think you need to explain your problem a bit more before you ask vague questions
like that.

Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PDF rotate

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Willy Ching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello!
> 
> Can somebody tell me if I can use fop to rotate a PDF document read
> it from a file? If yes, kindly show some sample code if possible.

Perhaps I could ask you why you think this might be possible with FOP?
What document tells you that FOP reads in a PDF file at all?

I don't believe it can read in a PDF document. Fop essentially reads in XML and 
outputs a rendered format - most usually PDF. 

But surely your Acrobat Reader can print out your document in either landscape or 
portrait?

Alex McLintock


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: cannot find class java/lang/Thread

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Davy Moskofian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi,
> 
> I have installed FOP on my Sun station.
> When I try to execute the fop.sh command, I get the following error
> message:
> "Unable to initialize threads: cannot find class java/lang/Thread"
> Can anyone tell me if there is a solution to this problem ?

You really need to make sure that you can run java programs on your system.
It sounds like it isn't set up properly (or your environment isn't).

FOP isn't an idiot proof application - you do need to know some Java and XML.

Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: question on fonts

[Alex McLintock]

 --- "Wolf Gustavo (SGC-EXT)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Hi all,
>   does anyone know how to make fop transform a th (like in 4th) in
> order to put it as superscript with a small font (in good ol'LateX it would
> go like $4^{th}$)?

You might try 

4th

though I haven't tried it..




=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: newbie committer

[Alex McLintock]

 --- "Seshadri G.K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> hi questions from a newbie committer. What is SSH?? Is there a page in
> apache for committers? what if i commit and therefore accidentally break
> something? how do i get started??

PS The following Page contains most of what you need

http://www.engelschall.com/pw/apache/cvsguide/


Feel free to email me off list if you need further help - but I am roughly in 
the GMT timezone so if you are in the USA then I wont answer much later than
midday.

Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: newbie committer

[Alex McLintock]

 --- "Seshadri G.K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> hi questions from a newbie committer. What is SSH?? Is there a page in
> apache for committers? what if i commit and therefore accidentally break
> something? how do i get started??


You don't know what ssh is? Oh well.


The website http://dev.apache.org/ contains many useful documents for developers
on apache projects - including several about using CVS, and SSH.

Have you ever used a source code control system? It is always polite to make sure
that what you commit DOESN'T break something.

PS What OS do you use as your development platform?

Alex (not an apache committer but am a CVS/SSH user)



=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: bit OT but..streaming PDF to browsers

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Dave Frankson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> PDFs from a servlet works in all broswers but you have to remember to do all
> of the following:
> 
> 
> 1.)  Set the headers:
> 
>response.setContentType("application/pdf");
>response.addHeader("Content-Disposition", "inline; filename=report.pdf");
> 

Your other suggestions I've heard of before - but haven't noticed this one.
Does it really work? What browsers support "Content-Disposition" ?
Where can I find out more?

Presumably I ought to add it to the FAQ.

Cheers

Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: bit OT but..streaming PDF to browsers

[Alex McLintock]

 --- David Frankson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> I get pdfs from servlets to work fine in IE, but I never have overcome
> the 2 hits per pdf.  Is there a solution to this?

I've noticed the "two hits" issue but always assumed it was due to my 
rubbish proxy configuration.

It may be that the first request is hust a "head" request to determine
the datestamp of the response and thus to determine whether or not
it can retrieve the file from its cache. (It is presumably seeing that
the datestamp is later than the cached version and thus requesting 
the whole response the second time.)

So one possibility is to check for a head request and when you get it
to NOT generate the PDF but just output the headers saying that the 
file would be new if you hadn't just done a head request.

This is a bit off topic so learning how to do this is left as an exercise
for the reader. 

Or if you are in London you can pay me to do it for you  :-)

Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Drawing lines in PDF using FOP

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Ricardo Coutinho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all,
> 
> I have the requirement to draw shapes/lines (horizontal, vertical, diagonal)
> based on x/y coordinates passed on to me. Is this possible?

Well yes - that is what SVG is for. It is a way of describing graphics
in XML. Fop (in conjunction with Batik) can convert much of SVG (but not all)
to PDF. 


> I checked the xslfoRef.pdf that comes with FOP and there was no indication
> that this is possible. I have also searched the net and came up with no
> references/examples.

Eh?
 
> If someone has any ideas/examples, I would be grateful if you would pass
> them on to me.

Loads of SVG examples are downloadable from the website - you might find them
in docs/examples/svg in your downloaded  distribution. There is a small SVG
test suite available.  

Goodluck

Alex McLintock
(Just back from the Linux Expo in London )



=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Java transformation from xsl-fo to pdf

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Braniganz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi,
> 
> I need transform a XSL-FO file to a PDF file.
> I am a beginner in Java, the next code would be correct? What have I to
> change?

I really don't think this is the right mailing list to help you learn Java.
I try to be really helpful but since you know you are a java beginner why
don't you concentrate on learning Java first.

a) Have you tried this code? If so then why didn't you post the errors you get?
b) Do you know what an InputStream is? in particular a FileInputStream?
c) Have you looked in the examples directory? 
   in particular the docs/examples/embedding directory?
   You may find the FopServlet.java a useful example, (if you ignore the fact
   that it is a servlet)
d) You didn't say what version of FOP you have.

goodluck.

Alex  

=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: error while executing build.bat

[Alex McLintock]

Which versions of Windows is this correct for? Win95/98/2000/NT/ ?

PS IMHO anyone with spaces in filenames is asking for trouble...

Alex


 --- Enrico Schnepel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> if there are spaces in the classpath I get a NoClassDefFoundError.
> 
> The command running Java must contain a '"' arround %CLASPATH% and should
> look like
> %JAVA_HOME%\bin\java.exe -Dant.home=%ANT_HOME% -classpath
> %LOCALCLASSPATH%;"%CLASSPATH%" org.apache.tools.ant.Main %1 %2 %3 %4 %5
> instead of
> %JAVA_HOME%\bin\java.exe -Dant.home=%ANT_HOME% -classpath
> %LOCALCLASSPATH%;%CLASSPATH% org.apache.tools.ant.Main %1 %2 %3 %4 %5
> 
> Thanks for merging
> 
> Enrico Schnepel


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: JAVA to C/C++

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Chris Leak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> I'm interested in converting FOP to C/C++. Has anyone else looked into this?
> 
> Any suggestions would be much appreciate.
> 
> Thanks


My first suggestion is to ask yourself "why?".
What earthly reason could you have for requiring a C++ implementation?

Secondly: how well do you know the exisitng FOP code? You do know that people
are discussing a major re-write. Perhaps now is not the best time for it.
Why not wait until FOP actually implements most of the spec...

Thirdly - who would maintain it? We don't have enough developers as it is - so how
would we get more to do a "FOP-C++" ? Do we really want another parallel distribution
to look after?

Goodluck

Alex



=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: add image to pdf template

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Art Simcoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all,
> 
> I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with ammending an existing
> pdf document. At this stage it would be sufficient for an image to be added
> an existing pdf template. Can anyone provide any sample code i could look
> at?

Parsing a PDF file is not trivial - but you are welcome to grab the specs and try.
ALthough it is totally outside the requirements for XSL:FO and hence FOP it
has been discussed briefly on this mailing list. Why not use the mailing list archives
to find out what was said?

Alex McLinrock  

=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bottom Align

[Alex McLintock]

This may be an RTFM but how do I bottom align my footer. I have some text which needs
to go onto the very bottom of the page and currently I have to adjust the size of the
xsl-region-after to make it look good. I'd prefer to just bottom align the block .
Here is the typical xml introducing that block of text. ANy suggestions for how
to bottom align in FOP. 

  
   
  


Sorry if this is blindingly obvious...

Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Sizing SVG

[Alex McLintock]

 --- Keiron Liddle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 
> On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:41:56 Thorsten Weiler wrote:
> > I followed your instructions but instead of scaling the image into the
> > desired area the image is clipped and all the parts which do not fit into
> > the area
> > are not displayed.
> > Sorry, but any other other hints/solutions?
> 
> From the SVG spec you could use a view port and the right preserve aspect
> ratio.

Oh! Are view ports working now?

That's great. Presumably that is due to the move to Batik.

Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Embeded Fop

[Alex McLintock]

Here is another email I got because I help do the FAQ.
Perhaps someone can answer it and CC the original questioner.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

PS "doreen" please join the fop-dev mailing list and ask there.

Alex

 Originally to: alex
 Date:  Tue, 26 Jun 2001 01:07:33 + (GMT+00:00)


 Subject: [FAQ] Is there any method for me to know the width and height of a jpg file 
in fo
 i have tried to embedded a jpg file into pdf with the use 
 external-graphic and reading a element in xml as follow:

 ==
 
   
   file:/home/newsclip/html
   
   
   center
   50%
 
 ===

 however, as the size of images varies, some pdf generation will be failed for some 
images. and i
think it is the problem of the imagesthat means, the size is too big even it is 
minized to
50%, so is that any scaling method that can automatically adjusted the percentage 
required for the image?

=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Code conventions

[Alex McLintock]

 
> > Is there a document somewhere defining these things?

I thought there were java coding standards which covered the whole of
Apache Software Foundation? H I suppose I ought to hunt for a URL.

The turbine people have discussed this to death - Since they are writing a Java 
library (or suite of libraries) this is more important for them
than for FOP which can be thought of as a standalone tool.

> We actually did agree (a long time ago) to style all code with indenting of
> 4 spaces (no tabs) and braces on the same line as method etc.

This is fine - remember folks - it isn;t whether the standard is right or
wrong but whether we all stick to the standard.
 
> The tool to do this (as mentioned by Steve) is jstyle (which has some bugs)
> or astyle.
> All committers should make an effort to format a file when committing if it
> is inconsistent, of course this can make it difficult to understand diffs.

My suggestion for this is that if you are editing a file and you see
formating which needs doing you might like to do the formatting - submit
a version into CVS, and then carry on with your changes - or Vice Versa.
It is much easier for everyone if formatting changes appear in their
own delta in cvs and not mixed up with serious code changes.

Alex 
What do I know? I'm not even a committer on FOP


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Patches being posted to the list

[Alex McLintock]

Can I suggest that we create the fop-user mailing list for those people who
want to *use* fop, but don't want to see patches, and leave fop-dev
for those who do want to develop fop - and probably ought to receive
patches whether or not they are a committer.

Alex

(PS - feel free to email me with your contributions to the FAQ
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  )

=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Help in XML Rendering to PostScript

[Alex McLintock]

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello,
> I have tried converting to PCL and then streaming to a port,
> which works pretty well, but is not a 100% compatibile (PCL beng only HP)

IMHO a large number of printers are PCL compatible nowadays - even those 
not made by HP.
 
I'd say they were more common than postscript - 

Why are you doing this on low spec machines?

Alex



=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: 0.19 Docs

[Alex McLintock]

--- Elliotte Rusty Harold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> The Web site and the docs in the zip file both still refer to 0.18 
> and have the old limitations and features. Any chance of getting this 
> updated?
> -- 


I didn't even know there was a 0.19 release. I thought it was just
the latest version in cvs...


Alex


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Chinese PDF.

[Alex McLintock]

This chap will hopefully be joining the mailing list soon.
This is the mail he sent me, and my reply to him.

Alex




Please check the website, and then subscribe to the FOP mailing list .

Instructions for doing so are on the FOP website.

Alex

--- zhou hao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alex:
> 
> I want to generate the Chinese PDF with FOP.
> 
> But I failed with changing the encoding style from utf-8 into gb2312.
> 
> How can I do?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> zhou hao.
> 
> 


=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Book Review: Professional XSL, Wrox Press

[Alex McLintock]

Almost A Book Review:

Professional XSL
Published by Wrox
49.99 USD
38.99 UKP
ISBN: 1-861003-57-9
Review by Alex McLintock

I was quite pleased when I got this book for review: I thought it had a whole
chapter on FOP. It doesn't.

What it does have is a chapter on CSS and XSL:FO. I guess I do need to read all of the 
CSS section to know what I can and can't do with font styling and the like. 
So I get to the XSL-FO part of the chapter. It starts off with a good description
of where FO fits into the world, and how the page is broken up into regions. 
It lists the 56 XSL-FO elements, and points out that many of them have html 
analogies (eg the "list" ones). And then I flipped back and forth trying to find 
an explanation of each one. I flipped in vain.

The explanation of the structure of an XSL-FO Document was good. I think it is better
than the documentation with FOP - but that documentation has improved since I 
first read it.

It talks about creating XSL-FO files from XSLT - something I haven't yet needed to do
since I've generated the fo directly.

And then for some reason the author uses Antenna House XSL Formatter. This seems to
be an add on for Microsoft Internet Explorer and so is useless for generating PDF.
Hurrah. A few pages later we find FOP mentioned. The exact file they use in their 
examples
is http://xml.apache.org/dist/fop/fop-0_15_0-forBeginners.zip which doesn't
seem to exist any more. Perhaps we can re-instate it - or redirect users to a 
the current release.

Sadly it doesn't really talk about FOP in any more detail than enough to get it going.


What else might you like to know:

It has a whole chapter on SVG! Unfortunately this chapter seemed a bit
disappointing too. It didn't give me any examples I wanted, for instance, on 
dotted lines. (I have some color line graphs which I want to produce with
different styles of dotted lines for rendering on a black and white printer).

The next thing I want to learn about is Cocoon. Cocoon is mentioned - but once. 
Oh well. Never mind.

Coming Soon - Professional XSLT Second Edition - also from WROX.

---

Copyright in this article resides with its author, Alex McLintock.
It may be kept and stored by any reader of the Fop-Dev mailing list, and
kept with any archive of the fop-dev mailing list. 
It may not be re-published without permission. 

For more Computing book reviews from Alex McLintock see 

    http://www.DiverseBooks.com



=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Nested table problems

[Alex McLintock]

For what it's worth I have seen *exactly* the same problem with 0.18-DEV-1

If I jumble the heights around I can get the second column (which is five 
short lines) to stay on the first page but quite often I create an fo file
with one or more lines from the second column on the second page.)


Sorry I can't be more helpful.

Alex


--- kfricovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi.
> 
> I'm trying to create a PDF with two columns, using  Like so...
> 
> 
> |  |   |
> |  |   |
> |  |   |
> |  a   |   b   |
> |  |   |
> |  |   |
> |  |   |
> 
> 
> I am nesting  and other , as well as external
> graphics inside both column A and column B.
> 
> The problem I am having is that for some reason, the content in column B
> is breaking onto a second page even though there is plenty of room for
> the content. Vertically, column A actually extends farther down the page
> then column B, but column A doesn't break.



=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: One Committer's Views on FOP; Informal State of the Union Address

[Alex McLintock]

--- Bertrand Delacretaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> On Friday 08 June 2001 11:02, Alex McLintock wrote:
> 
> > I think the best way to pay for open source development of FOP is if
> > development takes place in response to real life business requirements.
> 
> Quoting Arved, "...trying not to waste time doing work on code that is going 
> in the garbage after the redesign..". - this makes it hard to get someone to 
> fund projects based on the current FOP code, even though the business 
> requirements are here.

I got stymied by this too. I wanted to enhance a part of the SVG code only
to discover that it was being replaced by Batik! 

 
> So in my view the most urgent requirement is FOP's redesign/rewrite, which 
> could maybe be done faster if funding was available. 

I'm not going to argue whether or not a rewrite is a good idea but it is 
pointless to expect business to pay for the rewrite. Business is all about
immediate results and immediate profit. Just about every client I've
ever had says something like "Never mind the quality, just deliver it ASAP."

Open Source projects succeed by lots of hands doing many small changes. A rewrite 
is best done by one person or small team working dedicated on the project.

If we have to wait three months (say) for the next major release then FOP will die.
Unless FOP can be developed in an evolutionary way, rather than a revolutionary
way it will fail. 


---

After being negative for a few seconds, let me be more practical and pragmatic.

What you are calling for is support (financial/technical/time) so that people
can build the basis of FOP V2.00

I'd like to see Fop 0.19 CVS still developed whilst that is going on. I think
you were saying that it is  difficult to fund this work whilst a redesign is 
going on. Hmmm. Maybe. Maybe not. I'd say that bug fixing was easier to 
get paid for than a re-write.

Do we have any volunteers to re-write FOP? Anyone with the skill and understanding 
to do so?


Alex



=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: One Committer's Views on FOP; Informal State of the Union Address

[Alex McLintock]

NOTE: This email contains possible self advertising. 
  If that activity offends you please delete it.

--- Bertrand Delacretaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> On Friday 08 June 2001 02:34, Arved Sandstrom wrote:
> 
> > ...We have some very good developers contributing expertise to FOP. 
> 
> > ...There are no obstacles here, except those that occur because 
> > we are stretched for time...
> 
> I think this raises the question of fop users sponsoring developers: I have a 
> feeling that quite a few companies are using fop in production or eagerly 
> waiting for it to be ready for production. 

If any companies in London want to use FOP and need professional advice then 
please contact me (www.OWAL.co.uk). I am considering providing FOP consultancy 
and support but need to evaluate the demand before employing more developers 
and documenters.

I think the best way to pay for open source development of FOP is if 
development takes place in response to real life business requirements.
This is why I am looking at bringing together a team of people experienced with
Apache/XML/Cocoon/FOP/Tomcat/etc and offering that service to corporations
as a business venture rather than a loose bunch of highly skilled
but erratic open source developers.

Ideally that team need to be in London - but if there is the demand then
I can look at employing European developers on a part time basis.
(There are too many problems for my firm to pay non European Union people 
unless they are really worth it :-)



Open Source Credentials:
I have already used FOP in one significant production environment 
and would like to use this knowledge again elsewhere.
I admit I am not a FOP committer - but I hope to have made a small effort by
helping out with the FAQ.

My next job for the FOP FAQ is to extract a short - plain html version of the FAQ
which can be included in the official docs and put on the official website.


Apache Credentials:
I also have experience of Turbine, Jetspeed Tomcat and Jyve and are using them in
professional sites ( www.DiverseBooks.com )


Problem:
My biggest problem is that I am not allowed to use the word Apache in advertising
according to the licensing agreement. Does anyone know where to discuss this?

 
I hope the rambling above isn't too far off topic...

For more information please visit http://www.OWAL.co.uk

If you have any info for the FAQ please post it here, or email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Any suggestions for how to improve the FAQ or the documentation please post
to this list.


Alex McLintock

=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Best tool to create complex form layout for FOP form-filling.

[Alex McLintock]

> What is the best tool and strategy to model such forms for the current
> state of FOP? Can I use Adobe Illustrator's exported SVG with any
> expectation of clean output, or am I better of using a "Made with
> Notepad" icon on my web app? :)

If all you are after is a page sized SVG graphic then using Illustrator to 
generate SVG which you embed in FOP is the way to go. I just did this with
a company logo. - but had to manipulate the SVG slightly to get it working
in my FO file.

However the text capabilities in SVG are pretty limited and so this may
not be what you want. I am worried about all the tables it sounds like you
will need.

There is at least one professional XML editor which claims to output FO -
but whether it is genuinely WYSIWYG or cheap enough for you I can't say,
not having used it. 

Goodluck!

Alex




=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: embeded FOP in JSP ( tomcat problem)

[Alex McLintock]

 
> A java.lang.IllegalStateException(OutputStream is already being used for this 
>request) thrown
> before end of jsp.

I'm not sure about your earlier problem but this part is entirely a java servlet / jsp
problem. Once you've got one output stream for putting stuff into the jsp page 
you can't get another one. So if you need a binary output stream only get it once.
In fact I have seen at least one major JSP book say that this is a BAD idea
and you should do this in a servlet NOT a JSP page. 

I suspect that Tomcat is conforming to the spec more closely than Resin.

Sort that out and then come back to the fop mailing list when you have 
isolated the fop problem.

Goodluck

Alex



=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Last version of FOP

[Alex McLintock]

--- Di Perna Francesco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How can I get the last cvs version of FOP?
> 


Have you looked at the website yet? It pretty much explains what
you need to know. Of course you have to know how to use CVS
but that's your problem.

Alex



=====
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

apostrophe in superscript bug

[Alex McLintock]

I have some small print and spotted an error if using vertical-style="super".
Basically my first line was further way from the rest of the text in the paragraph
for no apparent reason, and more interestingly, if you had an apostrophe in a line
text after the apostrophe was further up than text before the apostrophe.

This is with FOP-0.18-DEV

(I tried the CVS version and it choked on my FO files :-( 

I have a work-around : Don't use superscript.
If any developers think they can debug it then I can supply a demo FO file and PDF.


PPS I am embarassed to ask whether there was an answer to "How do we get a copyright 
symbol?"

Alex





=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Need FAQ help

[Alex McLintock]

So you have tested FOP with Chinese words and found some problems. 

FOP is at its very early stages of development. We have a version which works
for most people - but very few of us speak or write Chinese (possibly none!)
Your help would be most welcome in explaining the problems you are seeing 
with Chinese fop, and helping to test it too.

Please subscribe to the fop-dev mailing list so we can continue this discussion
with developers more experienced than I.

Alex

--- carter_liang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yes,I have tried the "FOP".
> And I try the result that the "FOP" can not working chinese words.
> Thanks.
> Carter.
> 
> «H¥ó­ì¤å =?iso-8859-1?q?Alex=20McLintock?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Unfortunately I can't answer that - it is a lot more complicated than
> > "yes" or "no".
> > 
> > You need to ask on the FOP mailing list, and you need to give more
> > information.
> > Have you tried fop? How far did you get?
> > Do you know what fonts you need?
> > Do you need vertical text?
> > 
> > Goodluck
> > 
> > Alex McLintock
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- carter_liang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > dear Alex :
> > > Is the "FOP" working chinese words ?
> > > Thanks.
> > > Carter.



=
Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ 
DR WHO COMPETITION: 
http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104
Get Your XML T-Shirt  at http://www.inversity.co.uk/


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]