slations. Currently it's _impossible_ to
And givne that a large amount of similar fixes went into the gimp not too
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amp; cdr edition (February 26, 1999)
> Addison-Wesley Pub Co; ISBN: 0201379228
Download it here:
http://partners.adobe.com/asn/developer/technotes.html
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and the x
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local_target="PREFIX=$(DESTDIR)$(prefix)
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Nifty ;)
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build and install most extensions found in the CPAN sites. See L below for general hints about this.
I think thsi sounds like the right perl to use. IT can also be configured
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Poissible, yes, but not in practice (I don't know of any programs that
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r on the disk.
(It might also be good to reallocate the swap file for some size)
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> uniquness. (mkstemp is a BSDism, is it portable?)
Portable to BSD, yes ;) Another thing a tmpfile replacement (if necessary)
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> The reasons for using ncftpd are mainly performance, security, and
> the fact it's extremely simple to administer.
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And a few extra messages in gimp-std-plug-ins for plug-ins we do not ship
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> BnP comes to mind, which was created to do this.. there are already BnP
> scripts that download all of gimp (including any third party libraries),
> build and install it...
Of course, a simpl
in maintainers and
gimp..
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se I'd try file_print
on all images), or do you want a way to enumerate all open windows (i.e.
displays?), which does not exist yet ;(
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a stable version of perl (and yes, 5.005_50 to
5.005_59 worked fine...)
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If any questions remain then just ask me ;)
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plug-in-rotate something image drawable 3 0
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the ram that is "available" ;)
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optimize
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I get different sized layers.
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by the ideas I'm having which would be something like "little
> changes with big positive effects"...
So..? ;)
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nyone's comments on these issues.
This was my personal but public comment..
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leads itself naturally to spatial indexing, in fatc it's already half the
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ple ;)
> > I don`t mind it either..
> I know, but you aren't supposed to be the average user, are you?
Well, I have an opinion about half-trabslation that is just as good as any
opinion from an average user. The gimp is not the only i18n'ed project,
ures a lot!
>
> :-)
But AFAICS, there is only one new feature...
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priorities?
> I think that is what high end DBs do, handle their own data physical
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o radical. It would be abused (yes, it would!).
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situation, memory and cache-wise.
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works on many _many_ more platforms than the help system,
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> Please let me know what your plans are.
I don't have plans, just expectations ;->
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menu shortcuts? why not set a new ui standard AGAIN?
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#x27;s
independent of age.
> /me goes back to fixing bits of Gimp HE thinks are important
Hear hear..
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> OS with many free programs and they DO care about.
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, "its2" etc... and use an english catalog. We probably
need an en_UK catalog anyway, to correct all these wrong spellings for
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