[Gimp-user] plug-in problems
Apologies for the Newbie question! I'm using Gimp 2.2.4 and attempting to run the Colour Management plug-in, 'gimp-color-manager 0.1.0'. My OS is Mandrake Linux LE2005. Following the INSTALL instructions I've configured, make'd and installed it. 'gimp-color-manager' appears in /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins, (but not in ~/.gimp-2.2/plug-ins). However, I'm unable to activate it. Gimp=> File=> Preferences=> Folders => Plug-ins shows /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins as one of the Plug-In Folders. But Gimp=> Xtns=> Plug-in Browser doesn't find the colour manager plug-in and only searches among the plug-ins installed with the system. There doesn't appear to be anything in Gimp 2.2.4 corresponding to the Xtns/Plugins Details or Plugin Description dialog as described in Gimp Help for incorporating new plug-ins. What's missing or what am I doing wrong? I'd be grateful for any pointers. Thanks Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] plug-in problems
Carol Spears wrote: On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 02:44:09PM +0100, Doug wrote: Apologies for the Newbie question! I'm using Gimp 2.2.4 and attempting to run the Colour Management plug-in, 'gimp-color-manager 0.1.0'. My OS is Mandrake Linux LE2005. Following the INSTALL instructions I've configured, make'd and installed it. 'gimp-color-manager' appears in /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins, (but not in ~/.gimp-2.2/plug-ins). However, I'm unable to activate it. Gimp=> File=> Preferences=> Folders => Plug-ins shows /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins as one of the Plug-In Folders. But Gimp=> Xtns=> Plug-in Browser doesn't find the colour manager plug-in and only searches among the plug-ins installed with the system. There doesn't appear to be anything in Gimp 2.2.4 corresponding to the Xtns/Plugins Details or Plugin Description dialog as described in Gimp Help for incorporating new plug-ins. gimp has display filters that can adjust the display according to a monitor profile. View-->Display Filters. the problem is that you are on your own to find your monitor profile and install it there. as far as color printing goes, gutenberg print (whatever gimp print has changed its name to) is on its way towards handling printer profilers if it does not handle them already. carol Carol, Thanks for the help - I'll follow it up. I still have a general newbie problem about installing plug-ins, however - I'm not sure that I've understood properly what to do. Can you advise me what I've done wrong or omitted here in trying to get 'gimp-color-manager' onto Gimp-2.2.4? Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] plug-in problems
michael chang wrote: On 8/9/05, Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Carol Spears wrote: On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 02:44:09PM +0100, Doug wrote: I'm using Gimp 2.2.4 and attempting to run the Colour Management plug-in, 'gimp-color-manager 0.1.0'. My OS is Mandrake Linux LE2005. Following the INSTALL instructions I've configured, make'd and installed it. 'gimp-color-manager' appears in /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins, (but not in ~/.gimp-2.2/plug-ins). however - I'm not sure that I've understood properly what to do. Can you advise me what I've done wrong or omitted here in trying to get 'gimp-color-manager' onto Gimp-2.2.4? Are GIMP 2.0 plugins even _compatable_ with 2.2 plugins? Also, is this a binary install, or a source-compile? source-compile from a tar.gz file Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Bezier paths problems
I'm using Gimp v2.2 and having some problems with the Bezier paths: (1) the path will not close when I click on the starting point (though it will convert to a selection) (2) there is no special Paths dialog for Bezier paths, with Control Point Mode Buttons, on the Paths Dialogue (as in Gimp v1) (3) default behaviour on the Bezier path seems to be to Add points to the path. I can move them and twiddle the control handles, but can't Delete any points. Are there any ways round this? Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Odd scaling behaviour
While working on an image I found that the behaviour of the Tools=> Transform Tools=> Scale tool suddenly changed - scaling *down* the image size caused it to *increase* in size and vice versa. So if I want to change the pixel size by a factor f, I need to tell it to change by 1/f. What's up? This behaviour has now persisted through logging out, re-booting, removing and re-installing gimp from CD-ROM. Gimp v2.2: Mandrake Linux LE2005. Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Bezier paths problems
Michael Schumacher wrote: Von: Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm using Gimp v2.2 and having some problems with the Bezier paths: Are there any ways round this? http://docs.gimp.org/en/ch07s06.html#gimp-tool-path HTH, Michael Many thanks, Simon and Michael. Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Odd scaling behaviour
Michael Schumacher wrote: Von: Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> While working on an image I found that the behaviour of the Tools=> Transform Tools=> Scale tool suddenly changed - scaling *down* the image size caused it to *increase* in size and vice versa. So if I want to change the pixel size by a factor f, I need to tell it to change by 1/f. What's up? You're probably using the corrective mode of the scale tool, this can be changed in the tool options. HTH, Michael Michael and Simon, Thanks again. It's a relief to know it's not the system screwed up, just me! Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Refocus-it plugin and camera shake
Does anybody have experience with the 'refocus-it' plugin for correcting focussing errors and camera movement in photos? My problem is the following: I am using refocus-it from refocus-it 3.0 tar.gz and trying to remove camera shake from a photo I'm pretty sure is correctly focussed. It's a night photograph; the camera was suddenly buffeted by a gust of high wind, so the streaks produced by the lamplights in the photo clearly show a well-defined direction and extent of movement (27.55 degrees and 25.9 pixels). No matter what parameter adjustments I've tried with refocus-it, the length of the lamplight streaks doesn't seem to get any shorter. Can you give me some idea what I ought to be doing? Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] creating a "line art" channel or layer in GIMP
Dave M G wrote: GIMP Users, I'm a long time and proficient PhotoShop user trying to learn how to work in GIMP. My goal is to colour comic book style images using GIMP. I'm okay with not having CMYK support, as my images are most likely to appear on the web. What I do is scan inked images with Xsane as line art. Then what I want to do is create a layer that is pure black, and use the scanned image as an alpha channel for that layer. That way I can add colours underneath the layer, without affecting the line art. However, I'm stuck as to exactly how to create that alpha channel. I can create an alpha channel for a layer, but I can neither paste the line art image into that alpha channel, nor can I seem to invert the image so the right parts are transparent and the right parts are opaque. Can anyone provide instructions or direct me to a tutorial for this sort of thing? I will gladly RTFM if someone can show me where in the FM to R. Also, I have other concerns on the horizon which pertain to colouring inked comic images using GIMP. Things like ensuring there is no anti-aliasing when I use any of the tools. There are lots of tutorials of this nature for PhotoShop, but I was unable to find any that had GIMP specific instructions. If anyone knows of good directions for comic art using GIMP, that would help a lot. I look forward to any advice, and hope to hear from you soon. Thank you. -- Dave M G ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user Not sure if this might help. How about - (1) Start by creating a transparent base layer - File=> New=> Advanced Options=> Fill With=> Transparency (2) Make a new layer to carry your line art - Layer Dialog=> New Layer=> Layer Fill Type=> White (if you want a white background to the lines) or Background (if you want a black background to the lines: N.B. on the main GIMP panel, check the panel in the bottom Left corner, where there are two large oblongs, one in front of the other, and two tiny ones, ditto. If the large oblong behind (i.e.background) is white, click on the double-headed bent arrow at its upper right-hand corner; this will switch the colours of the large oblongs (foreground and background), making the background black). (3) get or copy your line art onto this new layer. It will have to be white on the black background or black on the white background. (If you use, say the Gimp pencil tool, which always draws in foreground colour, you may need to swop foreground and background colours by clicking the bent double-headed arrow by the large oblongs in order to get the right colour for drawing). (4) Right click on the image=> Select=> By Colour. Carefully position the mouse arrow over a line somewhere and left click. This will select your line drawings. Ctrl-X (or Right click=> Edit=> Cut) to cut the colour of the layer under the lines and make them transparent to the layer below. (5) What colour do you want your lines to show at? Go back to the main GIMP panel and the large oblongs. Double click in one or the other (foreground or background). This brings up a panel, Change Foreground (or Background) Colour. When you've selected the desired colour and clicked OK, the appropriate oblong on the main GIMP panel should now take on that colour. Go back to the Layers Dialog. New Layer=> Layer Fill Dialog. Choose Background colour or Foreground colour (depending which you've coloured). You then have a coloured layer. (6) Move the coloured layer down. Layer Dialog=> Down arrow. Your line art should appear coloured on your white (or black) ground in the colour of the coloured layer. I hope that's relevant. Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Printing success stories?
Paul Waldo wrote: Hi all, I am evaluating gimp on linux as a replacement for Photoshop on Windows. I am currently using Photoshop/Windows primarily for the color management capabilities. I have tried printing from gimp to my Epson Stylus Photo 1280, with horrible results--the colors are off by a significant amount. System specifics below. Does anyone out there use gimp for serious printing? If so, please let me know your workflow and how you achieve color fidelity. Thanks in advance! Paul Running: Kubuntu Breezy gimp 2.2.8 gimp-print 4.2.7 Epson Stylus Photo 1280 ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user Hi, I've had much the same problem with Gimp 2.2.4 and the Epson Stylus Photo 2100 running under Linux Mandrake LE2005. However, while waiting for a proper colour management solution to arrive in gimp/gutenprint, in the interim I've been able to get a pretty good match between monitor and printer output using Turboprint (http://www.turboprint.de/english.html). The only thing is that it costs (30 euros, 39 dollars) for the full capabilities. Hope that may help. Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Printing success stories?
Paul Waldo wrote: Thanks for the reply, Doug. This looks like it may be the ticket. If it works as advertised, $39 is *nothing*. After spending many tens of hours trying to get wine to work for me, the purchase of Crossover office was a godsend! I think this product may be in the same vein. I want to print pictures, not mess with printing software! Thanks again; I'll post my results back to the list once I've had a chance to test. Paul On Monday 20 February 2006 7:38 am, Doug wrote: Hi, I've had much the same problem with Gimp 2.2.4 and the Epson Stylus Photo 2100 running under Linux Mandrake LE2005. However, while waiting for a proper colour management solution to arrive in gimp/gutenprint, in the interim I've been able to get a pretty good match between monitor and printer output using Turboprint (http://www.turboprint.de/english.html). The only thing is that it costs (30 euros, 39 dollars) for the full capabilities. Hope that may help. Doug If you do decide to go with turboprint, a couple of tips - You *should* follow the recommendations to adjust Saturation and Gamma in Gimp. Otherwise Gimp images that print with perfectly good colour matching in other apps, say OODraw, come out very wishy-washy when printed directly from Gimp itself. Not all apps allow the full range of printer adjustments; use xtpconfig if you need these. HTH Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Filter for inequality in microfilm brightness ?
Stephan Hegel wrote: s ver wrote: Digital photos taken from microfilm equipment in public libraries typically come up with inequality in brightness due to imperfect condenser lenses. Gives a bright center and dark corners. (sample at http://users.telenet.be/spica/trial/microfilm.jpg). Has anyone a filter to correct this? The "Correct->Radial Luminance" filter of Panorama Tools could be helpful in your case. Stephan. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user See also: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/j.houghton/vignette.htm Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Printing success stories?
Hi Paul, Sorry you're not having much joy so far. I don't know that I can offer any specific advice - I do remember suffering a similar problem to yours at first which did get resolved, perhaps by following the instructions in the manual religiously, but now I don't recall how. I do find the printed colours I get are a close match to the monitor - as judged by eye - although I agree, that's only an interim solution till there's proper colour management in Gimp. However, what I would recommend is submitting a bug report to http://www.turboprint.de/feedback.html The people there are very prompt in replying and helpful - I found, for example, that I could not print on two of the better quality Epson papers with my Epson Stylus Photo 2100; and within a few days received a new PPD file that solved it. Hope you have some success! Doug Paul Waldo wrote: Hi Doug, I have been experimenting with TurboPrint and have not been very impressed with the results. It is still better than the stock gimpprint, but my test image has a noticeable red-cast. Can you give some more details on your results with TurboPrint? If it would give me Windows-quality prints, I would gladly pay them twice what they are asking, but so far it is really unusable for me :-(. I don't see how they can expect decent color without having some kind of monitor profile in the loop... Any thoughts you have would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Paul ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Printing success stories?
P.S. If like me you don't have any German, you'll need Babelfish http://babelfish.altavista.com/ in order to understand the bug report form, but you can report in English and the reply comes back in English as well HTH Doug Doug wrote: Hi Paul, Sorry you're not having much joy so far. I don't know that I can offer any specific advice - I do remember suffering a similar problem to yours at first which did get resolved, perhaps by following the instructions in the manual religiously, but now I don't recall how. I do find the printed colours I get are a close match to the monitor - as judged by eye - although I agree, that's only an interim solution till there's proper colour management in Gimp. However, what I would recommend is submitting a bug report to http://www.turboprint.de/feedback.html The people there are very prompt in replying and helpful - I found, for example, that I could not print on two of the better quality Epson papers with my Epson Stylus Photo 2100; and within a few days received a new PPD file that solved it. Hope you have some success! Doug Paul Waldo wrote: Hi Doug, I have been experimenting with TurboPrint and have not been very impressed with the results. It is still better than the stock gimpprint, but my test image has a noticeable red-cast. Can you give some more details on your results with TurboPrint? If it would give me Windows-quality prints, I would gladly pay them twice what they are asking, but so far it is really unusable for me :-(. I don't see how they can expect decent color without having some kind of monitor profile in the loop... Any thoughts you have would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Paul ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Re: [Gimp-user] How to High light a gif text image]
ajmal sherif wrote: Hi Folks I recently downloaded GIMP and I am new to it. Please advise how you would attempt this: I have a gif image of some text eg This is my Goldfish. I wish to now highlight it as follows: This is my Goldfish Hi Ajmal, Since nobody else has responded, here are my suggestions - open to correction from more expert people (I'm using GIMP 2.2.4 under Mandrake Linux): the gif image will be opened in Gimp in b/w or indexed, and you won't be able to colour anything. So, (1) open the gif file. (2) save it as a Gimp file, i.e. right click on the image=> File=> Save as. Click on Save File Type (By Extension). Click on GIMP XCF Image=> Save. The name along the title bar at the top of the image should then be changed from xxx.gif to xxx.xcf. (3) Right Click on the image=> Image =>Mode => RGB to convert to RGB. The name on the image title bar should be changed to xxx.xcf (RGB, 1 layer) I think the first step would be to create a rectangle around the word using Select Rectang Regions. (4) OK But then how do i select the colour (5) Look at the main GIMP panel - the bottom left corner has a couple of overlapping oblongs, one white, one black, with a small bent double-headed arrow at their upper right corners. The front oblong selects your foreground colour, the back oblong your background; you can swap them over by clicking on the little bent arrow. To select red foreground, click on the front oblong - this brings up a coloured panel and coloured strip at its side. Clicking in the strip changes the spectrum shown in the panel; clicking in the panel selects the colour chosen. Find your red=> OK. (6) On the main GIMP panel, click on the Paint Pot icon. (7) Back on the Image. Click in the Rectangle Selected area. Wait briefly; and the area will be coloured red. (8) Rectangle Select your next word. Then repeat (5), (6), (7) for that colour. (9) etc and how do i make sure i can still read the background text (in another programme i think they called this Transparency) For black text and the colours you chose for an example, that shouldn't be a problem Also I might need to increase the font size. (10) The gif image you would be importing into Gimp would be a picture, not text, so you could only increase the image size, not the font size. There's a Scaling Tool on the main Gimp panel (two rectangles joined by an arrow, a tiny and a larger) to do this. As far as I know you can't import text as text into Gimp. Then to save for use in a word document (11) Right click on the image.=>File => Save as=> Select File type. Probably JPEG image is your easiest option. (It will probably say you have to flatten the image first) La stly, I then want to be able to copy the whole into a word document. (12) I'm no longer up to date with Word; but IIRC in Word '97: Insert=> Picture=> From File => Files of Type => JPEG Interchange File Format should do it. I would be most grateful if anyone can advise me the steps in doing all of this - and please tell me names/location of the various buttons. However, I do recommend you do some reading on the Gimp. Try Grokking the Gimp http://gimp-savvy.com/ and the Gimp User Manual http://docs.gimp.org/en/ HTH Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Gimp-user Digest, Vol 42, Issue 31
Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Rhys Sage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [03-23-06 15:22]: Can I write using Linux, vCDs and video DVDs and can I write my photos to DVD as I can with XP (and Sonic)? Linux will make data CDs and DVDs storing graphic (photo) files. There are several utilities to write optical media, k3b is my favorite graphical front-end. There's also a CD/DVD Creator in Gnome which is *extremely* easy to use How much space is all this likely to take up? You will have to ask this in another manner as I do not understand what you are looking for. If you mean space to prepare the ISO image prior to writing - it will obviously depend on how much you want to write; but I doubt it'd be much different from XP. Someone else can probably give you a better idea. I have a 65GB HDD on my laptop which is already half full Maybe you should be starting to think about archiving some of the photos. If The Gimp will do everything that Adobe Photoshop Elements and Canon Zoom Browser will do then I might dump XP or run dual boot. I have *no* idea what Canon Zoom Browser will do and some idea about PS Elements. Gimp will probably do some thing that neither of those will do and they will probably do some things that the Gimp does not. I'd second that. About the only things I noticed were that Gimp doesn't preserve EXIF data (in .xcf files), although if you download your photos via Gtkam it's available; and there's nothing equivalent to the simple panorama option Photostitch in Gimp. Having said that, both the Canon and PS "photostitch"s fall over and become quite useless if the components of your panorama don't match perfectly or their arrangement is a bit complicated. You'd then have to embark on making your panorama *manually* and Gimp is excellent for that. If you want to make trial pages of multiple photos you can do that in Gimp, but Gnome Photo Printer is much quicker and simpler. IMHO the real defect of Gimp as against Photoshop is that there is *still* no colour management system. That may or may not matter to you. If it does, you can get part of the way there by matching your printer output to what you see on the monitor: if you're lucky the Linux drivers will do it; if not, Turboprint will do it for a great many printers and is being updated all the time as new printers come on the market. Over all, I see no reason to maintain a windoz system. I have not had windoz on my personal box for over seven years, and used OS/2 prior to tha Now that I've got used to the Gimp - it works differently from PS and you shouldn't expect it to be the same - I only keep a Windows system on dual boot because I still need various MS Access databases I created in the past. Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp & turboprint??
Original Message Subject:Re: [Gimp-user] gimp & turboprint?? Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 10:36:03 +0100 From: Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Gracia M. Littauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, Gracia Here are some quotes below from Gimp posts back in Feb. '06. HTH, Doug P.S. I don't remember off-hand if some of the adjustments aren't available in the evaluation version of turboprint (and they've likely changed some things since I got my copy, of course) Gracia M. Littauer wrote: I am getting the same dull rotten prints from turboprint's evaluation copy as I get from gimp's regular prints (which is why I'm trying turboprint). I use SuSE 10 & gimp 2.2.7. Any special tricks I don't know about??? Doug If you do decide to go with turboprint, a couple of tips - You *should* follow the recommendations to adjust Saturation and Gamma in Gimp. Otherwise Gimp images that print with perfectly good colour matching in other apps, say OODraw, come out very wishy-washy when printed directly from Gimp itself. Not all apps allow the full range of printer adjustments; use xtpconfig if you need these. HTH Doug Hi Paul, Sorry you're not having much joy so far. I don't know that I can offer any specific advice - I do remember suffering a similar problem to yours at first which did get resolved, perhaps by following the instructions in the manual religiously, but now I don't recall how. I do find the printed colours I get are a close match to the monitor - as judged by eye - although I agree, that's only an interim solution till there's proper colour management in Gimp. However, what I would recommend is submitting a bug report to http://www.turboprint.de/feedback.html The people there are very prompt in replying and helpful - I found, for example, that I could not print on two of the better quality Epson papers with my Epson Stylus Photo 2100; and within a few days received a new PPD file that solved it. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GIMP can induce De Quervain's disease
Gilles Maltais wrote: A good solution would be to use a pen tablet. I have a big Wacom 12-inch which is good for graphics but for general pointing use, a small one would be infinitely better than a mouse for EVERYBODY. BTW, are there lefthanders on the list ? I would like to know how they handle their mouse. Personally, I sit the outer side of the hand, put the thumb inside and move it with the "pinky-thumb fork" when I have to. Easier on the wrist too Speaking as a lefthander, I normally use the mouse right-handed; then occasionally change to left-handed when the right hand cramps up. It's not very satisfactory, though. Doug . Gilles Jeffrey Brent McBeth wrote: On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 05:34:11PM +0200, Roel Schroeven wrote: There's one relatively simple change I can think of, that could reduce problems as the one experienced by Hector: instead of requiring the user to hold the mouse button pushed down during a drawing operation, it's possible to signal the start and the end of a drawing operation with separate mouse clicks. I.e. instead of "mouse down -> paint operation -> mouse up" you could do "mouse click -> paint operation -> mouse click". Personally, I switched to a trackball and picked up contact juggling to exercise the wrists. Fundamentally, a mouse is the wrong tool with which to paint, and by and large a disasterous tool for computer health. Generally, the advice to take breaks is a good one. Specifically re the above quoted, I would consider mouse toggling to be an accessibility issue best dealt with at a desktop level (GTK/Gnome/Whatever) rather than application specific hacks. Jeff ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/383 - Release Date: 2006-07-07 ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Please Change the Derogatory Name
Owen Berry wrote: On 9/30/06, Alan Horkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "lameness: disability of walking due to crippling of the legs or feet" http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Agimp This is the commonly understood meaning of the word for most English speakers and it is considered derogatory, like calling someone a cripple. English-speaking countries: There's also Australian English, British English, Indian English, South African English, West African English, etc. and I believe the majority of English speakers are actually Indian. The Oxford (Compact) English dictionary gives the derogatory sense of the word as N.American. So does the dictionary.com link quoted in an earlier post. There are quite a few native English speakers who have pointed out that "gimp" means nothing to them, and I want to add myself to that list. Me, likewise. (neither from Aus or the US) Can we get past this and agree that it's just a cultural issue, and maybe generational as well. Not only did I never hear it in a derogatory context in my own country, but after 8 years in the US I haven't heard it used that way here either. Maybe people need to stop speaking and thinking in such a derogatory fashion. Renew your minds! Oh, and if the project was to be renamed, maybe it would be offensive in some other language or culture. Too true! there are plenty of hilarious accounts of commercial products with names that were highly offensive when exported. English is not the only language on the planet. Owen (not from Aus) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop
Trapper wrote: > > >1. Gimp means "to walk with a limp" in English and is slang. ... Most >English speakers >generally relate gimp to the slang variant, most of us are familiar with >it and most of us consider it to be something negative. > > It would be very nice if people looked up the archives once in a while.. and if they didn't take quite so provincial an attitude ;-) What you mean is ""limp" in American English Speakers of American English". As earlier threads have already pointed out, most non-American English speakers don't know this use of the word; and in a comprehensive dictionary like the Oxford English dictionary, it's noted as a specifically North American usage. FWIW most speakers of English live on the Indian sub-continent! Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop (Zombie Thread)
jim wrote: >Eric P wrote: > > >>I'm lazy, and I don't feel like reading this entire thread (it seems to show >>up on a regular basis on the list). >> >>Were any new, constructive insights brought up? Anyone care to summarize >>this thread on this exhausting topic? >> >> >> > >Summary to date: Noobs keep joining the list and want the name changed >to match their sensibilities. They threaten to continue to add to the >noise part of the signal to noise ratio until they get their way (see >"kill file"). I suggest a new list dedicated to their traffic; >gimp-name-haters@, thereby relieving the rest of the users and devo's >from actually having to slog through their repeated attempts at "reasoning". > >At least at the current levels, it's easy to know when a thread starts >heading in that direction, and tell t'bird to bit bucket the messages. > >jim > > > Or how about adding a section to the list-etiquette, referring them to one of the earlier threads? Anything to pre-empt the very tedious subject coming up yet again ;-) Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp and Printing
Mega Sunny wrote: > I can't print any picture with Gimp 2.2.13 (Gimp-Print Version 4.2). > My Distri is openSuse 10.2 and the normal installation of my Printer > (Epson Stylus Photo RX500) with yast works fine. Other programms can > print, only gimp don't work. Where is the problem? I also bought the > printer driver from TurboPrint but also the setup tip from this don't > work. See here -> Setup of TurboPrint and Gimp > <http://www.turboprint.info/manual/turboprint-7.html#ss7.2>. > When I make a new printer it appears in the field "Printer-Name" with > a Star (*). I input the name e. g. fotoprinter then the name will be > shown as *fotoprinter. > BTW: Of course I have german Version of openSuse. > > Thank you > > Michael > I suggest you get hold of the latest version (5.0.0) of gutenprint (alias gimp-print) from sourceforge - your printer is listed as one of those supported - rather than persist with turboprint. http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=1537 A couple of printers I had problems with, using turboprint, work quite smoothly with gutenprint 5.0.0. (Using Mandriva 10.2) HTH Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP won't support installed printer?
Dave M G wrote: > Akkana, > > Thanks for responding. > >> ut the experts who would know for sure aren't here; >> they're on the gimp-print/gutenprint devel list. >> > > No one on the GIMP mailing list knows how to make GIMP connect to the > right printer driver? > In the past I've moved my Gimp printer from gimp-print 4.2 to Turboprint and on to gutenprint 5.0 under Mandriva LE2005 (kernel 2.6.11-13); unfortunately I no longer remember the details, so that's no help. If nobody else can help, I'll try to resurrect them for you. In any case, I've got to set about installing Gimp-gutenprint 5.0 on Mandriva 2007.0 (kernel 2.6.17-5), so maybe I'll find something useful in the process of doing that and report back. Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] [Fwd: Re: A better understanding of Levels and Curves]
DJ wrote: > > > Curves. I have spent a lot of time clicking on the line and pulling up > and down, on the left and right, not really knowing why I'm doing it. > > How do you use "Curves" efficiently? > > What reasoning is used to put a dot on the line in a specific position > and pull the line up or down? > > I think the best thing is to play around and just see the effects you get. As a very simple guide: 'Values' changes the "brightness" of all three colours simultaneously Along the bottom of the 'Curves' graph is the "brightness" of the picture you took, or more accurately, its density in different parts of the picture, running from dark on the left to light on the right. The vertical scale at the left-hand side of the graph is the "brightness" you get by messing around with the curves - very little brightness at the bottom; a great deal at the top. Suppose the picture on your screen is much too dark in the shadows - then click on the curve somewhere towards the left-hand end - that is, where the dark tones, shadows, of your original picture lie. (It doesn't matter too much exactly where you click). Holding on to the dot, pull it upwards - in other words, you're making those shadows brighter. Suppose the picture on your screen is burnt out in the highlights - then click on the curve somewhere towards the right-hand end - that is, where the light tones, highlights, of your original picture lie. (It doesn't matter too much exactly where you click). Holding on to the dot, pull it downwards - in other words, you're making those highlights darker. If your shadows are too dark and your highlights are burnt out, you can pull up the left-hand end and pull down the right-hand end. and so forth. You can produce poster effects by pulling the left-hand end higher than the right-hand end, etc. etc. When it all gets too much of a mess, press the 'Reset' button and you're back to square one. Obviously, choosing one colour channel instead of 'Value' restricts the effects to a single colour. HTH Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Move/Grab tool?
Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 17:31 +0100, David Woodfall wrote: > >> Is it possible to make a tool that just moves an image when zoomed in? >> >> I'm thinking something similar to pressing spacebar in Photoshop. >> > > The development version has this feature bound to the spacebar so it > will be in 2.4. In GIMP 2.2 you can do the same using your middle mouse > button. > > > Sven > Please correct me if I'm misunderstanding, but isn't this just what you get by moving the view frame on the Navigation panel? Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Lens distortion correction
John Allsopp wrote: > Victor Domingos wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> Is there an easy way in GIMP to make corrections to those distortions >> that happen for instance, when we try to take a photo from a very >> high building (when the straigh edges get a bit rounded or inclined). >> I think there are some similar apps in wich we can do that by using a >> grid to distort the whole picture. Is there anything like that in GIMP? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> Victor Domingos >> http://lojamac.com/blog >> > > I looked for this too and didn't find it. I blogged about it here > <http://www.johnallsopp.co.uk/blog200704.php#panorama> where there's a > link to a tutorial about a way to do it in Hugin, but I had some > problems with that. > > So that's a possibility, but I'm still interested in hearing of Gimp > ways to do it. > > > One of the tools on the Gimp front panel toolset since at least 2.2 is the Perspective Tool (see also the Shear Tool) which does just that. There are some relevant instructions in my out of date version of 'Grokking the Gimp' in the Panorama and Transform sections; perhaps someone else can point you to more recent and better versions. Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Getting Screenshots directly into GIMP on different operationg systems
Akki Nitsch wrote: > Hi everybody on the list, > > I'm testing the GIMP on various operating systems for my masterthesis > (in that i want to show the capabilities of open-source-software for > technical writing) and i hope that somebody could answer me the > following question (more to follow ;-) : > > As a programmer and technical writer for software i love the ability > of getting screenshots directly from and into the GIMP via the > "Acquire" submenu -> "Screen shot". > > Hi, Irrespective of operating system, doesn't just using the 'PrintScreen' key, then opening the screenshot in Gimp do the trick? Followed by 'Crop' to taste. Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP video podcast / screencast
Joe Carsto wrote: > On 8/17/07, Axel Wernicke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Am 17.08.2007 um 04:07 schrieb Eric P: >> >> >>>> I would be happy about comments and very happy about pointers to >>>> mistakes or to things I could do better. >>>> >>>> You can find the podcast at http://meetthegimp.org >>>> >>>> >>>> Rolf >>>> >>>> >>> I'm absolutely confounded that no one has replied to you yet. >>> >> Now, you say it - it remember - shame on me: After Rolfs mail I dived >> into the video so much, that I forgot to reply to his post... >> >> ... thumbs up!! Please keep up the good work! >> >> smile! >> >> >>> Rolf, excellent work! I've just begun watching (episode 6) and I >>> am thoroughly impressed with the techniques and your >>> demonstration. >>> >>> You're providing an excellent resource for GIMP users (both current >>> and future). Keep up the great work, and I'll be >>> sure to follow your updates. >>> >>> It would be great if you provided a link for the original images >>> you use in your podcast; then we could all follow along. >>> >>> Thanks again, >>> Eric >>> ___ >>> Gimp-user mailing list >>> Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU >>> https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user >>> >> --- >> Remember: There are only two tools in life. WD-40, for when something >> doesn't move, and should, and Duct Tape, for when something is moving >> and it shouldn't. >> So does the universe explode if you spray duct tape with WD-40? >> >> >> ___ >> Gimp-user mailing list >> Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU >> https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user >> >> > > Rolf, > > I found your video podcasts last night, just before bed... I couldn't stop > watching until I had watched all six episodes. It's a good thing I didn't > have to work today or I would have been very late :) > > The videos are GREAT! I've been looking for something to help with the Gimp > and your videos are just what I need. > > I've bookmarked your website and subscribed to your RSS feed. I can't wait > for your next video. I really like your use of layers. Any more > information about how to use layers would be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you for the excellent work you've done. > > > > > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user > Great stuff! Keep up the good work 8-) Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] can we change "bit processing" header in subject line?
carol irvin wrote: > "bit processing" is now such a huge email that I am having trouble > telling when I want to read it and when I don't. There is some really > good creative info coming in on it which I don't want to miss. But > there is also some sort of continuing feud going on under that same > heading, which I do not want to read. Perhaps the people who want to > post continuing creative insights could title theirs on the subject > line "creativity" and if they want to limit it even further could add > "camera" or "painting" or "art". As for the feuders, I don't really > know what they can label theirs but I would really like something that > earmarks it so I can delete it unread as I don't want to devote > further time to scanning through them just to delete them. I suppose > you could just label it "feud continues" and those who want to follow > it can and those who want to delete unread can do so. > > Thank you. > I strongly agree: while the feud may be interesting to the participants, for someone standing outside (me) it reads like an endless recycling of the same arguments in different words. Put it down to my ignorance. I'd join Carol in appreciating it if the "feuders" and the "creators" could use different titles for their posts. Thanks Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Image resizing based upon image content
Konstantin Svist wrote: > David Gowers wrote: > >> oops, this didn't get sent to the list. >> Also, I think the problems I'm encountering are because: >> A) YIQ tends to oversaturate too readily >> B) the image ICC profile is AFAIK undefined, and is, anyway, disregarded. >> C) L*a*b* colorspace is not being used. In my experience L*a*b* >> represents saturation accurately, as well as intensity If this plugin >> could use L*a*b* space (with GEGL's help?) for the application of >> colorization effect, it would be more useful. >> >> -- Forwarded message -- >> From: David Gowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: Oct 6, 2007 4:39 PM >> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Image resizing based upon image content >> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> On 10/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> Konstantin Svist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Oct 04, 2007 15:54 -0400 (in >>> part): >>> >>> Kevin Cozens wrote: >>> >>> >>> > Dotan Cohen wrote: >>> >>> >> There is an amazing video describing an image resizing algorithm that >>> >>> >>>>> removes (or adds) pixels based upon their importance to the subjecto >>>>> of the photo. Can this be implemented in The Gimp? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> > Of course it can be implemented in GIMP. It just takes someone with the >>> time >>> >>> >>>> and ability to write the code for a plug-in that implements the algorithm. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> I don't think the one you point to below is the same as Liquid Resizer >>> (see http://schumaml.gmxhome.de/downloads/gimp/ and d/l >>> http://schumaml.gmxhome.de/downloads/gimp/gimp-lqr-plugin-0.1.3.zip >>> for it). >>> >>> Having tried out Liquid Rescale I'm very impressed. But does anyone have an idea about the size of image it can deal with in terms of memory requirements (I presume the Gimp setting Tile Cache size)? I've crashed it with a 700MB jpg setting Tile Cache Size to 3 GB (using Linux Mandriva 2007.0). Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Image resizing based upon image content
Konstantin Svist wrote: > Doug wrote: > >> >> Having tried out Liquid Rescale I'm very impressed. But does anyone have >> an idea about the size of image it can deal with in terms of memory >> requirements (I presume the Gimp setting Tile Cache size)? >> >> I've crashed it with a 700MB jpg setting Tile Cache Size to 3 GB (using >> Linux Mandriva 2007.0) >> > > There should be best/worst-case estimates in the paper, but if not, it > probably depends on the algorithm. > But 700MB jpeg... that's pretty hard core :) > Thanks, I'll go have a look at the paper. The jpeg was a mosaic of some 25 sensible-sized pics ;-) Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Image resizing based upon image content
Doug wrote: > Konstantin Svist wrote: >> Doug wrote: >> >>> >>> Having tried out Liquid Rescale I'm very impressed. But does anyone >>> have an idea about the size of image it can deal with in terms of >>> memory requirements (I presume the Gimp setting Tile Cache size)? >>> >>> I've crashed it with a 700MB jpg setting Tile Cache Size to 3 GB >>> (using Linux Mandriva 2007.0) >>> >> >> There should be best/worst-case estimates in the paper, but if not, >> it probably depends on the algorithm. >> But 700MB jpeg... that's pretty hard core :) >> > Thanks, I'll go have a look at the paper. > The jpeg was a mosaic of some 25 sensible-sized pics ;-) > > Doug > P.S. the paper is beyond me, but I couldn't recognise any sort of estimates. Thanks anyway. Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Image resizing based upon image content
Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, 2007-10-07 at 16:28 -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: > > >>> Having tried out Liquid Rescale I'm very impressed. But does anyone have >>> an idea about the size of image it can deal with in terms of memory >>> requirements (I presume the Gimp setting Tile Cache size)? >>> >>> I've crashed it with a 700MB jpg setting Tile Cache Size to 3 GB (using >>> Linux Mandriva 2007.0) >>> >> There should be best/worst-case estimates in the paper, but if not, it >> probably depends on the algorithm. >> > > It also very much depends on how the plug-in is implemented. If it > transfers the full image data from GIMP to the plug-in, then it's > basically unusable with large images. Unfortunately quite a lot of > plug-ins are implemented that way. > > > Sven > I don't see any information about the implementation. If that's the case, it's a great pity - it's a very nice plug-in :-( Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Deconvolution plugin for GIMP?
I'd be interested to know of any such plugin too. I have a number of images with directional camera shake that Refocus fails to handle at all well. Doug Toby Haynes wrote: > I've got a bunch of images which need deconvolution (8 second exposures > of the recent lunar eclipse) to remove the sky rotation. The > point-spread function is well described by the star tracks in the image > and I was wondering if anyone knew of any GIMP plugins to make > deconvolution easier. I'm aware of the Refocus plugin for removing blur > but this smudging is closer to camera shake. > > I can always resort to IRAF or AIPS++ if I have to, but the GIMP is so > much easier :-) > > Cheers, > Toby Haynes > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user > > ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] . Re: Deconvolution plugin for GIMP? (Doug)
Alchemie foto\grafiche wrote: > >'d be interested to know of any such plugin too. I have a number of > >images with directional camera shake that Refocus fails to handle at all > >well. > > did you try convolution matrix ( in Filter/Generic) > > No. I'll have to have a closer look at that, thanks. Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] . Re: Deconvolution plugin for GIMP? (Doug)
Toby Haynes wrote: > Alchemie foto\grafiche wrote: > >>> 'd be interested to know of any such plugin too. I have a number of >>> images with directional camera shake that Refocus fails to handle at all >>> well. >>> >> did you try convolution matrix ( in Filter/Generic) >> > That applies the convolution to the image. In this case I want to > reverse the process - which is a lot harder to do and has been the > subject of many papers. Of all the approaches I've seen, I've been most > impressed with the Maximum Entropy approaches to deconvolution - > however, those require a reasonable guess at the original convolution > function (prior). > > Cheers, > Toby Haynes > __ > That would be completely beyond me, unfortunately! Cheers, Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] resynthesizer plug-in with Gimp 2.4.5
Is it possible to get the resynthesizer plug-in to work with Gimp-2.4.5? I've downloaded resynthesizer-0.16.tar.gz onto my system ; but found installing it requires gimptool-2.0, and gimptool will require libgimp2.0-devel. Would installing libgimp2.0-devel screw up Gimp 2.4.5? Doug (Mandrive 2008.1; linux kernel 2.6.24.5-desktop-2mnb) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] resynthesizer plug-in with Gimp 2.4.5
Daniel Hornung wrote: > On Saturday 09 August 2008, Doug wrote: > >> Is it possible to get the resynthesizer plug-in to work with Gimp-2.4.5? >> >> I've downloaded resynthesizer-0.16.tar.gz onto my system ; but found >> installing it requires gimptool-2.0, and gimptool will require >> libgimp2.0-devel. Would installing libgimp2.0-devel screw up Gimp 2.4.5? >> > > If both GIMP and libgimp-devel are provided by Mandriva, they should go along > perfectly fine. Also, the worst thing that could happen is that things you > compile with one libgimp don't work together with GIMP in another version. > As long as you don't recompile GIMP yourself (or any of its runtime > dependencies, like gtk+ or glib), you're pretty much on the safe side. > > Daniel > Many thanks. I'll give it a try. Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] managing monitor profile
Leonardo Canducci wrote: > 2008/11/28 Mogens Jæger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Leonardo Canducci skrev: >>> I don't plan to buy a device for monitor calibration. They're not cheap nor >>> supported on linux, and they look like overkill for my purpose: getting >>> acceptable color consistency across different pcs, web galleries and lab >>> prints. >>> I just thought that loading the specific icm profile for my lcd >>> monitor (obtained >>> from the manufacturer) was better than nothing. Of course I also changed lcd >>> osd settings - with almost no ambient light - according to some test >>> charts and >>> images found on the internet. Since pictures looked really different before >>> and >>> after loading the icm profile I don't get what's better for my workflow. >>> Anyway I don't get why it shouldn't make sense using this profile. >>> Shouldn't I >>> get an better result with that? >>> >>> Thanks! >> I've got a Spyder2 colorimeter, and I have it working under Linux - in >> my case Suse 10.3 and 11. - have a look at Argyll. Some of your correspondence hasn't appeared on the gimp-user list - I also have a Spyder2 colorimeter but haven't had it working under Linux. Can you give some more details and/or links? Many thanks, Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] normalmap and resynthesizer plug-ins and gimp 2.6
peter kostov wrote: > David Gowers wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:08 PM, peter kostov >> wrote: >>> Doug wrote: >>>> peter kostov wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> does anybody know if the normalmap and the resynthesizer plug-ins do >>>>> work with GIMP 2.6? >>>>> >>>>> I am on Gentoo and currently have two different versions of GIMP - >>>>> 2.4 >>>>> installed system wide and 2.6 installed only for me. I use 2.4 when I >>>>> need these plug-ins and 2.6 for everything else. >>>>> Currently if I try to use these and other plug-ins (I am not speaking >>>>> of these that came with the GIMP itself) with GIMP 2.6 I am >>>>> getting an >>>>> error message like this: >>>>> >>>>> gimp_plug_in_handle_proc_run: ERROR >>>>> >>>>> Could not execute plug-in "normalmap" >>>>> (/home/peter/.gimp-2.6/plug-ins/normalmap) >>>>> because it uses an obsolete version of the plug-in protocol. >>>>> >>>>> Greetings, >>>>> Peter Kostov >>>>> >>>>> _ >>>> Hi, >>>> I have resynthesizer working on 2.6.3. >>>> >>>> Doug >>>> >>> That's good! >>> >>> I know I have to recompile them, but I don't know how to recompile them >>> against a specific version of GIMP, not the system wide installed. And >>> that is why I decided to ask you, before I upgrade my GIMP system wide. >> Well, if you use the gimptool belonging to your 2.6 GIMP to compile >> the plugin, rather than the systemwide gimptool, that should be >> effective. >> >> David >> > > Hm, thanks David, but it isn't so easy, because the package uses > pkg-config too. So I tried to alter the Makefile by defining the path > to the new gimptool and adding > --define-variable=prefix=/home/peter/install/gimp to the pkg-config > command to tell it where to search for libraries, but then the make > failed with LOTS of errors like this: > /home/peter/install/gimp/include/gimp-2.0/libgimpcolor/gimpcolorspace.h:76: > error: expected ')' before '*' token > > > Greetings, > Peter > I don't know if this will help in your case; but in general I find it better not to mess around with the Makefile and try to get round this sort of problem by setting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH. For example, PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/local/lib/pkconfig (or wherever's appropriate, instead of the system-wide /usr/lib/pkconfig) ; export PKG_CONFIG_PATH; ./configure; make; make install HTH Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] normalmap and resynthesizer plug-ins and gimp 2.6
peter kostov wrote: > Hi, > > does anybody know if the normalmap and the resynthesizer plug-ins do > work with GIMP 2.6? > > I am on Gentoo and currently have two different versions of GIMP - 2.4 > installed system wide and 2.6 installed only for me. I use 2.4 when I > need these plug-ins and 2.6 for everything else. > Currently if I try to use these and other plug-ins (I am not speaking of > these that came with the GIMP itself) with GIMP 2.6 I am getting an > error message like this: > > gimp_plug_in_handle_proc_run: ERROR > > Could not execute plug-in "normalmap" > (/home/peter/.gimp-2.6/plug-ins/normalmap) > because it uses an obsolete version of the plug-in protocol. > > Greetings, > Peter Kostov > > _ Hi, I have resynthesizer working on 2.6.3. Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Don't reinvent the wheel department....
Noel Stoutenburg wrote: > Friends: > > Where I wrote: > >> .. GIMP co-ordinates 726,110. .. >> >> > I inadvertantly used co-ordinates from the wrong image; in the image > > <http://users.waymark.net/mjolnir-dsl/12T1.tif>) > > > the mid-gray tones that contain the useful information are the pixels > around 635,134. > > ns > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user > > Hi, With barely legible documents, especially if you've got any number of them, I'd suggest trying Digikam first. It's much quicker than using Gimp and in most cases it will give you a very good or at least acceptable result. I usually start with Digikam and resort to Gimp only if Digikam isn't good enough. Digikam: Image =>Edit=>Color=>Auto-Correction; then try which of the 4 options gives you the most legible result. You can do further tweaking on the autocorrected image. Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Resynthesizer
Mitja wrote: > Hi! > > I remember the plugin from the subject but I didn't find it for the GIMP 2.6. > Are the plugins that do the same job, please? > > Thanka in advance, > > Mitja > __ > > resynthesizer-0.16 runs fine on 2.6.0. You can get it from http://www.logarithmic.net/pfh/resynthesizer as a tarball (or rpm for various Linux distros or in a Windows version). Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] restoring faded transparencies
geoff wrote: > I was scanning a lot of colour transparencies, some taken up to 40 years ago, > and found that in some cases the colours had deteriorated badly. After a lot > of experimenting I have developed an automatic way of improving the digital > scans using gimp. I have put a technical article, the gimp plug-in, and a > collection of the good and bad results at > www.lionhouse.plus.com/photosoftware/restore. I would be interested in hearing > from anyone who has worked on this problem and if you try the plug-in let me > know how it works for your pictures. > I have a large collection of old slides showing all the problems you describe in your article to greater or lesser degree, so I was extremely interested in your post. I've downloaded your plugins. Unfortunately I get a "Forbidden" error when I try to download the readme.txt; and it's not clear to me how to get the python plugins actually installed in Gimp 2.6 after copying them into the ~/.gimp-2.6/plugins directory. Can you help? Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] restoring faded transparencies
norman wrote: > < snip > > > >> I have a large collection of old slides showing all the problems you >> describe in your article to greater or lesser degree, so >> I was extremely interested in your post. I've downloaded your plugins. >> Unfortunately I get a "Forbidden" error when I try to download the >> readme.txt; and it's not clear to me how to get the python plugins >> actually installed in Gimp 2.6 after copying them into the >> ~/.gimp-2.6/plugins directory. >> Can you help? >> > > I read the photorestore.pdf file. > > Norman > So did I, but there's no protection against senility :-[ . However, I then read your earlier post, Norman - bangs head on wall!! - of course, permissions :-[ :-[ (it's normally the first thing I think of, but my excuse is that I've got used to gramps, where 'Reload Plugins' does that for you). Yes, they're all there. Now I can get down to trying them out. Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] restoring faded transparencies
norman wrote: > < snip > > > >> Thanks for your message. As you deduce I am more interested in the >> processing algorithm than the coding. There are too many poor results at the >> moment and I suspect there will be modifications to the method when I have >> more experience of its performance. For this reason I have not put it on a >> gimp site. I am happy for anyone to develop the plug-in further and improve >> the interface but there is not much point until the algorithm is unlikely to >> change. I have killed the spurious hidden image which was left over from the >> way of correcting the side absorptions. >> > > > Geoff, I have started to look at a number of copies of old Kodachrome > slides and I am beginning to get together several comments many of which > would be best exemplified by examples. Therefore, I would like to know > whether, at this stage in the development and because of your main > interest being in the algorithm, you and other readers would think it > best if this subject was continued outside this list. > > Norman > The subject's of considerable interest to me and I'd like to be kept aware of any developments. So for my 0.02c worth, I'd prefer it to stay on the main list. Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Scanning into GIMP
Michael J. Hammel wrote: > On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 11:31 -0600, Rodney Clay wrote: > >> I am new to using GIMP. Can I import images into GIMP from a scanner. If so >> what do I need >> to do to set up to do this. I have looked in the online manual but did not >> find an answer to my >> question. >> > > On Linux: install the SANE and XSane packages, including the XSane GIMP > Plugin. Setting up SANE is a little confusing for newbies, but it just > takes a "Doh!" moment to realize it isn't that hard. > > On Windows: I think you need to configure your scanner with TWAIN, > whatever that is. > > On Mac: I have no idea. > > GIMP does not have built in scanner support. It utilizes whatever > scanner support is available from your operating system. > On upgrading Gimp from 2.4 to 2.6 I had a bit of a problem getting the scanner recognised by Gimp. However I've now found it just as easy, and sometimes more convenient, to keep the scanning separate (ie. on my system - Mandriva 2008.1, Gnome - have a panel icon for xsane, /usr/bin/xsane). Then having scanned, save the image as a .png or similar file; drop it onto 2.6. So I wouldn't get too fussed about taking images direct from the scanner into Gimp. Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Need help with "Help"!!!
Are you using Windows, linux or Mac? Let us know please. I think with linux your easiest route is to have an internet connection running. Gimp should find the website http://docs.gimp.org/en/ automatically. Doug rlt46...@aol.com wrote: Hello, Some time ago another person and I both asked how to get the Help function to work. I still haven't seen any answer and I think the questions got lost in the flurry of other more technical questions. I have Gimp (installed) and Gimp Help (also installed) but when I click on "Help" in Gimp I get a message that "The GIMP user manual is not installed on your computer." I know there is another step I must complete to integrate the two, but what is it? In other words, how do I get the help/user manual to work? Any advice will be appreciated and please remember... I am strictly a novice end-user. Rebecca *“Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves.�* So said Abraham Lincoln! *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Totally cool web site:* Tolerance.org <http://www.tolerance.org/index.jsp>* *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ * *ANYTHING BEYOND THIS POINT IS ADVERTISING ADDED BY AOL WITHOUT MY PERMISSION OR CONSENT* ~~~ *A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! <http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62>* ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Need help with "Help"!!! -- Att.: Doug
rlt46...@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 2/25/2009 2:40:23 P.M. Central Standard Time, > doug_bainbri...@onetel.com writes: > > >>> Are you using Windows, linux or Mac? Let us know please. > I think with linux your easiest route is to have an internet > connection > running. Gimp should find the website > http://docs.gimp.org/en/ automatically. Doug <<< > > Hello Doug, > > I am using Windows XL. Sorry for the oversight, I didn't realize it > made a difference. Like I said, I am strictly an end-user. > > When I am using a graphics program I am usually off line. I'm on > dial-up and when I have Gimp open it takes forever to access the > Internet so I prefer to not use the on line manual unless I have no > other recourse. > > Rebecca You have my deepest sympathy - I know what it's like on dial-up! Sorry I can't help with Windows, but I hope someone else will be able to. Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Need help with "Help"!!! -- Att.: Noel
rlt46...@aol.com wrote: > >>> For the moment I use the following work-around: I have the help > files > (which are in html) installed at a known point on my system, and I have > my web browser set to open them as a file on the local machine. When I > run into an issue which necessitates my consulting the helpd files, I > open the help files in my browser.ns <<< > Hello Noel, > > I know I can access the manual on line, but would rather not (see my > previous post to Doug). I don't understand the workaround you > describe... I really do not know that much, technically, about > computers. But if you have them installed on your "local system" > (hard drive?) why would you need to access them on line? Or maybe the > question is... if you access the manual on line via your browser, why > go to the trouble of installing them anywhere else? Sorry for the > questions... but I really don't want to remain computer ignorant forever. > > Rebecca Rebecca, Someone else will have to give you specific instructions for Windows XL, but in general terms you read the Help document with your internet browser - you just set it to look at a file instead of at a website. With Firefox, for instance, click on File , then Open File, then follow it to where you've installed Help. For Internet Explorer the procedure will be very similar. In XL you can probably drag the Help files onto the desktop for it to leave an icon on the desktop as a shortcut. I expect someone will correct these steps for you. Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Need help with "Help"!!! -- Att.: Noel
Doug wrote: > rlt46...@aol.com wrote: >> >>> For the moment I use the following work-around: I have the help >> files >> (which are in html) installed at a known point on my system, and I have >> my web browser set to open them as a file on the local machine. When I >> run into an issue which necessitates my consulting the helpd files, I >> open the help files in my browser.ns <<< >> Hello Noel, >> >> I know I can access the manual on line, but would rather not (see my >> previous post to Doug). I don't understand the workaround you >> describe... I really do not know that much, technically, about >> computers. But if you have them installed on your "local system" >> (hard drive?) why would you need to access them on line? Or maybe >> the question is... if you access the manual on line via your browser, >> why go to the trouble of installing them anywhere else? Sorry for >> the questions... but I really don't want to remain computer ignorant >> forever. >> >> Rebecca > Rebecca, > Someone else will have to give you specific instructions for Windows > XL, but in general terms you read the Help document with your internet > browser - you just set it to look at a file instead of at a website. > > With Firefox, for instance, click on File , then Open File, then > follow it to where you've installed Help. > For Internet Explorer the procedure will be very similar. In XL you > can probably drag the Help files onto the desktop for it to leave an > icon on the desktop as a shortcut. > > I expect someone will correct these steps for you. > Doug > P.S. Of course, this way the Help tab on Gimp won't work, but at least you'll be able to read the Help Manual whenever you need it Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Need help with "Help"!!! -- Att.: Noel
Ken Warner wrote: > I also would like to download the GIMP documentation and run it locally. > But I can't find a help manual download. I only can find a tar.bz2 > tarball > and I don't think I have a program to open that... > > Where is a downloadable GIMP help file with all the HTML pages in it > so I can run the help locally from GIMP? Ken, tar.bz2 is a linux compressed file, so it won't be any use to you if you're running Windows. On linux, first move the downloaded .tar.bz2 file to a folder where it will be convenient to keep the Help manual. Then in a terminal window, type tar xzvjf .tar.bz2 This will uncompress the Help Manual into your chosen folder. Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Need help with "Help"!!! -- Att.: Noel
Andrew wrote: > Doug wrote: >> Ken Warner wrote: >> >>> I also would like to download the GIMP documentation and run it >>> locally. >>> But I can't find a help manual download. I only can find a tar.bz2 >>> tarball >>> and I don't think I have a program to open that... >>> >>> Where is a downloadable GIMP help file with all the HTML pages in it >>> so I can run the help locally from GIMP? >>> >> Ken, >> tar.bz2 is a linux compressed file, so it won't be any use to you if >> you're running Windows. >> On linux, first move the downloaded .tar.bz2 file to a >> folder where it will be convenient to keep the Help manual. >> Then in a terminal window, type >> tar xzvjf .tar.bz2 >> > Shouldn't that be: > > tar xvjf .tar.bz2 > > ?? > > Andrew Humble apologies :-[ I noticed that as soon as I sent off the post; z and j are *alternative* options Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Need help with "Help"!!! -- Att.: Noel
Michael Schumacher wrote: >> Von: Doug >> > > >> tar.bz2 is a linux compressed file, so it won't be any use to you if >> you're running Windows. >> > > The point of this statement is true - someone who can make use of the file's > content as intended on Windows won't have to ask how to handle them - but I > would like to point out that simply packaging a file with tar and bzip2 does > not make it linux-specific. > > Utilities like e.g. 7zip will happily extract (and create) archives of this > type on windows, too. > > > Regards, > Michael > Thanks for that information Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] restoring faded transparencies
norman wrote: > It would be useful if the slider range could be altered, especially to > be able to go below 0.7. I am not a programmer and, therefore, I do not > know if this is possible or how complicated it is but, if it can be > done, I would love to be able to try the effect. > > Norman > > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user > > The restore plug-in works very well indeed for me in general. I'd also like to be able to set a degree of restoration below 0.7. I have a couple of comments: (1) With some slides, restoration of 1.2 causes the plugin to crash with "setting out of bounds" (2) I have a couple of problematic slides I've sent on to Geoff for him to explore possible limitations of the algorithm: (i) One, an Ektachrome dating from 1981, is puzzling. The appearance isn't exceptional; it has a slightly greenish cast. All adjustments make a noticeable difference to the appearance; but they all (setting the sliders 0.7 -1.2, less blue yes/no, combine all layers yes/no) end up with images that have little or no discernible differences between them. (ii) The other, an Ektachrome from 1977, is representative of a certain number of 30-year old slides where the blue colour seems to have been completely destroyed, giving bright yellow skies. It may be unreasonably challenging for the algorithm and causes the plugin to crash. But it would be nice if the plugin could make some sort of a stab at restoration or if not, fail gracefully. Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] restoring faded transparencies
geoff wrote: >> It would be useful if the slider range could be altered, especially to >> be able to go below 0.7. I am not a programmer and, therefore, I do not >> know if this is possible or how complicated it is but, if it can be >> done, I would love to be able to try the effect. >> >> Norman >> >> >> > The "degree of restoration" is designed to be 1.0 according to the > mathematics in my technical notes but I have found that for some images the > resulting colours become a bit too garish, hence the slider. I had not > expected values below 0.7 would be useful but the default range can be changed > in the line (PF_SLIDER, "contrast", "Degree of Restoration", 1.0, (0.7, 1.2, > 0.1) ), near the end of the file. > > My apolgies to Doug - I got my email address wrong (I never use this one), it > is geo...@lionhyouse.pzlus.com (delete the xyz) > > I will look at your examples and also find out why some crash the program; I > have not had this. > Geoff, if you like, I can send on on example of a slide crashing the plugin for a restoration setting of 1.2 Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] tips on enhancing text written in pencil
You might find it worth trying 'digikam' first if you have many pages to process and are more interested in legibility than final aesthetic appearance. I've used it a lot for "restoring" old documents: Image=>Edit=>Color=>Auto-correction offers you 4 types of correction. One or other of these will usually improve matters considerably. I use gimp only for the occasionally necessary final tweak or particularly difficult document. Doug James wrote: > Hi. I have an elderly friend whose father kept a diary during WW2. The diary > is written in pencil on poor quality paper that has yellowed considerably with > age. The text is still pretty legible but as time passes it will become less > so. I decided I could photograph pages of the diary and enhance them using > Gimp. The final result should be something that can be printed out on a > computer printer, i.e., greyscale/b&w. I took the photos in color, thinking > I'd have more manipulation options, then could make the images greyscale. > > I'm not any kind of gimp power user or anything--I usually just feel my way > around the program and usually get it to do the fairly simple graphic > manipulations I want. So far, that method has not worked well for this > project. So I'd like to ask some tips here on accomplishing the goal I'm > after. Ideally, I'd like all the yellowed paper that forms the background of > these images to turn as close to white as possible, while all the pencil text > should be as close to black as possible. Can anyone point me to things I can > try under gimp that will help me accomplish these aims? > ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Can a New Layer be positioned during the Paste, or does it require a Move
bgw wrote: > DJ wrote: > >> Hi bgw, GimpUsers, >> >> b> Not quite - "paste as new layer" creates a new layer with the selection >> b> in the upper left corner. "Paste" places it exactly on top, as Sven >> b> noted, and then "Layer->New Layer" will transform the floating layer >> b> into a new layer properly located. >> >> Ah, that did the trick. >> >> The two methods produce different results then: >> 1a. Edit / Paste As / New Layer >> 1b. Edit / Paste; Layers / New Layer >> >> Is there any other use for the "Floating Selection", other than >> turning it into a "New Layer"? >> >> > You will most likely have noticed that simply clicking outside the > "floating selections anchors it. > The most obvious use is creating multiple copies of a portion of the > image, without going through the "layer-merge" steps. > > I do that using Ctrl-C; Ctrl-V. > Ctrl-C copies the selection to the clipboard, and Ctrl-V pastes it > (creating the "Floating Selection")- I will then move it to a new location. > Another Ctrl-V will create another copy, at the same time "anchoring" > the floating selection (which means merging it into the then active layer). > The new floating selection is no longer in the original location (I > haven't paid much attention to the rules by which it is located at that > point). > I will then move that new floating selection to the next place I want > it, and either another Ctrl-V to anchor it and create another copy as a > floating selection, or click outside of it in order to stop making copies. > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-use > The Copy-Paste floating layer is positioned on top of the preceding layer. As bgw says, if you paste on top of a floating layer, it anchors the floating layer and merges it with the layer beneath. However, if you want to be able to move *both* your new float *and* the one beneath, convert the first float to a New Layer before pasting the second. The new float is positioned on top of the New Layer, wherever you moved it. Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] [Gramps-users] Needing sympathy and help
I think at times you may be faced with a hard decision - do I want to get the image or keep the photo? Drying old photos can be a problem, as they sometimes curl up strongly when dry. (If you allow them to dry emulsion side down on an unheated print dryer, they're liable to stick on the surface). When the image is very important, it may be worth running the risk of losing the photo by placing the wet print, emulsion side down, on a sheet of glass and allowing it to dry. You can photograph the flattened image (with any cracks minimised) through the glass; but you may not be able to soak the photo off again without damaging it. Best of luck! Let us know how you get on. Doug Emrys Williams wrote: > Another thought is to consider copying the photos while they are still > under water, before they have any chance to dry out and wrinkle. > Personally, I'd photograph each photo through the water surface, as it > lay on top of the pile, then remove the top photo. Then if the drying > process wrecks them, you've still got a reasonable image. If they dry > well, you can always scan them again later. Photographing through the > water surface might need some practice, but I have done this very > successfully with rock pools. Feel free to email me direct if you'd like > some suggestions. > > More good luck! > Emrys > > Duncan Lithgow wrote: > >> Hi there all. >> >> On my last night in my home country of New Zealand I've been going >> through yet another box of family stuff. My grandfather was proloffic >> in creating and keeping documents of all kinds. I've just found >> several envelopes of photos so damaged by water that they are stuck >> together and I can only see enough to know that they include some very >> old family photos of which there are unlikely to be other copies. I'm >> feeling terrible about finding them. I know my mother would be >> horrified if she knew that they were in one of the boxes she stored >> poorly and which became water damaged. So I've put the clumps of paper >> into a bag and will take them home with me to Denmark. That's the sob >> story... >> >> Now the question is what can I do to make the best of this tragic >> situation? I know a bit about restoring the photos once I have them, >> but for no they are caked together in a clump. Please does anyone know >> what I can do? All I've come up with so far is taking the whole clump >> with me on a ong visit to the local sauna! Maybe that would separate >> them with some encouragement?! >> >> Help and advice appreciated. >> >> Duncan >> >> -- >> Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial >> Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited >> royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing >> server and web deployment. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects >> ___ >> Gramps-users mailing list >> gramps-us...@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users >> >> >> > > -- > Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial > Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited > royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing > server and web deployment. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects > ___ > Gramps-users mailing list > gramps-us...@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > > ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] babl
Greg S. wrote: > >>>>> Greg S. wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, i have already installed babl and gegl but still no good when >>>>>> using >>>>>> ./configure This is driving me nuts. >>>>>> >>>>> What about the >>>>> >>>>> "Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you >>>>> installed software in a non-standard prefix." >>>>> >>>>> part? If you need help to understand this one you should say so, >>>>> otherwise people will assume that you are actually doing what it >>>>> suggests. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> HTH, >>>>> Michael >>>>> >>>>> Yes I need all the help I can get. Please advise me how to do this. >>>>> >>>> PKG_CONFIG_PATH what am I to do to make this work. Please explain to >>>> me like I >>>> am a 5 year old. >>>> >>> >>> You don't say what you are using as an OS, but what you are missing in >>> my mind, are the development files for gegl and babl >>> >>> if you built babl and gegl from scratch, no problems, but sounds like >>> you might be using Ubuntu or fedora. So look in you package manager >>> for things like gegl-dev and babl-dev >>> >>> If you built babl and gegl in some non standard directory, you need to >>> tell the system where to find them, hence; >>> >>> export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/non_standard/directory/lib/pkgconfig >>> >>> hth >>> >>> >>> I am using Centos 5.3 >>> > This sort of thing comes up continually when installing from tarball. > > (1) Is the library/package complained of on your system or not? > > (2) If it is, have you got the development package? - you'll need it. > Check with your package manager or look for files on your system > (typically in /usr) named -devel: without it you > can't proceed with compilation. If you haven't, get the development > package from somewhere (installation disk, upgrading resource, or > Googling for the tarball if necessary. > > (3) If you have, where are the libraries for that package installed? > commonly /usr/lib or /usr/local/lib, but may be /usr/lib64 or more > outlandish places - Find File or equivalent is your friend. > > (4) use "echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH" to see where compilation is going to > be looking for external programs - assuming you haven't resolved the > problem already by this stage, the libaries you need will be in none > of those places. > > (5) Use Find File for folders named "pkgconfig" or files ending in > ".pc"(no quotes). You'll find quite a number. You should be able to > recognise the relevant .pc file for your package amongst the names in > the list. > Note which folder it's in, e.g. > "/usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.5.2/lib/pkgconfig" (to quote a genuine > outlandish example) > > (6) Then use the export PKG_CONFIG_PATH before configuring, i.e. > > export > PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.5.2/lib/pkgconfig:$PKG_CONFIG_PATH > > > (This adds the new path to existing ones. > Note: as a general rule *don't* use export > PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/non_standard/directory/lib/pkgconfig or you'll > completely replace the existing path for this session. You may need > the existing path for other progs in the compilation). > > /configure > > make > > (then as root) make install > > HTH > > Doug > ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GTK make problem
PKG_CONFIG_PATH needs to point to a pkconfig folder containing various .pc files. Look in /usr/lib/pkconfig and /usr/local/lib/pkconfig and check where various glib- and gtk-related .pc files are located. You may well need both pkconfig folders. Then PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/local/lib/pkconfig:/usr/lib/pkconfig; export PKG_CONFIG_PATH; ./configure You should be able to compile but you may not be able to run, because the program can't find this or that library which you know you have - you get a message saying "couldn't find library lib..so." Setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH may avoid that happening, but quite often it doesn't. Usually it's because the program insists on looking for that library in /usr/lib when you've got it in /usr/ local (or /usr/lib64 on a 64-bit machine). In that case, as root create absolute links from /usr/lib to all those particular library lib..so... files in /usr/local/lib (or wherever). It solves most problems. HTH Doug julien wrote: > Hi, > > I had installed glib-2.20.4 through a rpm built with checkinstall. I > uninstalled it and re-installed glib with "make install". > > I have the glib-2.0 directory in /usr/share, /usr/local/share, > /usr/local/lib > > The PKG-CONFIG_PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variables are empty. > > I tried "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH='/usr/local/lib' && export > PKG_CONFIG_PATH='/usr/local/lib' " before ./configure in the gtk+-2.16.5 > directory : my problem persits. > > I also added the three glib-2.0 paths in ld.so.conf, without any success. > > Is this actually a glib path problem? I have the > /usr/local/lib/libgio-2.0.so file... > > >> On 08/01/2009 08:44 PM, julien wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am trying to install gtk+-2.16.5 from sources under openSuse-11.0, >>> (before installing unstable GIMP for UI translation). >>> "Configure" gives no error message. >>> Running "make" gives this error: >>> >>> /usr/local/lib/libgio-2.0.so: undefined reference to `g_poll' >>> >>> I can't find how to resolve this problem. >>> I'd be grateful for any help. >>> >> Looks like you're not linking against the proper GLib library, make sure >> to setup PKG_CONFIG_PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH at configure time so that >> the right dependencies are found preferably through the use of config.site. >> >> / Martin >> ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GTK make problem
Martin Nordholts wrote: > On 08/06/2009 07:55 AM, julien wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> glib and gtk-related .pc files are in /usr/lib/pkgconfig. In >> /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig I have babl.pc, gegl.pc, gio-2.0.pc, >> gio-unix-2.0.pc, glib-2.0.pc but no gtk.pc, probably because it is not >> installed yet? >> >> I ran >> PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig >> export PKG_CONFIG_PATH >> and still I have this damned eroor on 'make': >> > > PKG_CONFIG_PATH is a configure time environment variable. make does not > care about PKG_CONFIG_PATH. You need to reconfigure with PKG_CONFIG_PATH > and probabl LD_LIBRARY_PATH set (but again, note that LD_LIBRARY_PATH is > not needed when later running the built software due to libtool's use of > rpaths. > > / Martin > As Martin says PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig export PKG_CONFIG_PATH ./configure Then 'make'. If 'make' still complains it may mean you've got the 'stripped' version of one or more packages and have to download the development versions (they usually have "-devel" in their names) which have header files needed for compilation. A similar problem came up about a month ago on the mailing list - it might also be worth your while having a look in the Gimp-user archives (July 2009; subject babl; author John Culleton, Doug, etc) Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How To Install Gimp Help
Does tar xvjf gimp-help-2.6.0-html-en.tar.bz2 do anything for you? Doug On 21/12/09 18:46, PETER GOODCHILD wrote: Seasons Greetings, I downloaded gimp-2.6.7. No help manual in it, I then downloaded gimp-help-2.6.0-html-en.tar.bz2. I tried to open it no luck. It is a bz2 compressed file format. Visited the bz2 page it is all in computer speak, makes no sense to me at all. Please how do I install the help manual into Gimp? Thanks. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How To Install Gimp Help
Apologies, my intentions were misunderstood. On 21/12/09 23:12, Martijn Weisbeek wrote: > Does > tar xvjf gimp-help-2.6.0-html-en.tar.bz2 > do anything for you? What if this person is not a Linux user and not very fond of doing things on the command line ? I guess that if he does not like computer speak he might have downloaded the wrong help package. Fair enough. I'd assumed if he found and downloaded a linux package he has some basic knowledge of the command line; and having untarrred the file and seeing what was in it, people could give further help. Sorry if that was not the case. Doug Peter, if you are running GIMP on Windows you could try installing a help package from this page: http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html Kind regards, Martijn http://gimp.startpagina.nl On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:44 PM, doug <mailto:drober...@alice.it>> wrote: Does tar xvjf gimp-help-2.6.0-html-en.tar.bz2 do anything for you? Doug On 21/12/09 18:46, PETER GOODCHILD wrote: Seasons Greetings, I downloaded gimp-2.6.7. No help manual in it, I then downloaded gimp-help-2.6.0-html-en.tar.bz2. I tried to open it no luck. It is a bz2 compressed file format. Visited the bz2 page it is all in computer speak, makes no sense to me at all. Please how do I install the help manual into Gimp? Thanks. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: How To Install Gimp Help
I'm forwarding this to the list to throw it open for more people's help Doug Original Message Subject:Re: [Gimp-user] How To Install Gimp Help Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:11:10 + (GMT) From: PETER GOODCHILD To: doug Hi,Peter here, I'm actually learning to make leaded stained glass windows. I have a SG program called GlassEye 2000 Pro + this has a nifty feature called auto trace. The SG pattern I'm using to make my front door sidelights comes from a book. I used another SG program called Rapid Resizer to enlarge the pattern. When I printed it out the outline, it had very jagged edges. I'm about to teach myself trace cutting using scrap glass. One places the glass directly on the pattern. Then uses the glass cutter... to trace cut. With the jagged edges not so great, need a nice clean line with a uniform width. I looked into the problem a bit. Then thought I had a printing problem called ink bleed. Anyway I went down this avenue following this train of thought for a while, bit of a dead end. I then found out how to use auto trace in GlassEye , bit like scaleable vectors I've started to find out about. I looked at the pattern in the book with a magnifying glass and I could see some jagged edges on the outline. Rapid Resizer must be enlarging everything, including the jaggedness. Auto trace sorts the problem out and will print out pattern with nice clean lines. Hope you are all still with me :) Anyway, bla, bla. Along the way I contacted Protonic free expert tech support. The tech told me not ink bleed, he refered me to a few links, one included Inkscape, scaleable vectoring which I thought would come in handy. I also saw another SG worker who said on a forum the PowerTrace function in Corel Graphics Suite X4 home and student edition was awesome and PowerTrace was used by top professional SG workers. I was up for buying it, I asked Protonic for their opinion. They thought I'm be better off saving my money, using The Gimp for bitmaps, the Inkscape for vectoring. I wanted to make SG patterns from colour photos. I know a little about computers, upgraded CPU sort of thing. Everest diagnostic software. The Gimp has a lot of seems to me computer speak terms, like compiling and terms like that,. Which is just beyond me just goes right over my head. In your experience will I be able to use The Gimp with Inkscape to make b & w patterns from colour photos? Regards, Peter. --- On *Tue, 22/12/09, doug //* wrote: From: doug Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] How To Install Gimp Help To: gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU Date: Tuesday, 22 December, 2009, 12:21 Apologies, my intentions were misunderstood. On 21/12/09 23:12, Martijn Weisbeek wrote: > Does > tar xvjf gimp-help-2.6.0-html-en.tar.bz2 > do anything for you? What if this person is not a Linux user and not very fond of doing things on the command line ? I guess that if he does not like computer speak he might have downloaded the wrong help package. Fair enough. I'd assumed if he found and downloaded a linux package he has some basic knowledge of the command line; and having untarrred the file and seeing what was in it, people could give further help. Sorry if that was not the case. Doug Peter, if you are running GIMP on Windows you could try installing a help package from this page: http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html Kind regards, Martijn http://gimp.startpagina.nl <http://gimp.startpagina.nl/> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:44 PM, doug http://uk.mc865.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drober...@alice.it>> wrote: Does tar xvjf gimp-help-2.6.0-html-en.tar.bz2 do anything for you? Doug On 21/12/09 18:46, PETER GOODCHILD wrote: Seasons Greetings, I downloaded gimp-2.6.7. No help manual in it, I then downloaded gimp-help-2.6.0-html-en.tar.bz2. I tried to open it no luck. It is a bz2 compressed file format. Visited the bz2 page it is all in computer speak, makes no sense to me at all. Please how do I install the help manual into Gimp? Thanks. -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU <http://uk.mc865.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gimp-u...@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu> https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user <https://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user> ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Thrashing with C2G - what to do?
I have a 2.4Ghz 6Gb 64-bit machine running Gimp 2.6.7 on Mandriva Linux 2009 Spring. The Tile Cache Size is set to 5Gb. A 31MB tiff file is converted by c2g pretty quickly. However a 45Mb tiff converts about half the preview image quickly and then halts indefinitely, thrashing with the CPU 100% occupied. I've run gimp in verbose mode on a succesful and this unsuccessful conversion - there's nothing obviously different in the messages, except that the unsuccessful conversion seems to be hung at an earlier stage. What's up? Is it likely that c2g would saturate 5GB of memory with a 45Mb image? Are my adjustments wrong? Or is there some other way round this? Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP vs Photoshop
On 20/01/10 23:39, Cédric Gémy wrote: > I don't remember how this discussion has turned to a GUI discussion just > as if the hugest difference wetween the two was this point. > Anyway, Gimp is great, and photoshop has many default too. It also tries > to implement new GUI possibilities, but they sometimes shouldn't, i > guess :) > > "Most people thinks having two different menubars in one application is > insane. The small amount of people that thinks it is a good idea will > have to maintain code for that themselves, sorry." > > One thing that might be interesting is having contextual menu which is > really contextual to image areas we're on, instead of a simple duplicate > of main menu. WOuldn't be a second menu, but just an extract of > immediate main applicable functionnalities. > > pygmee > Folks, can you branch the discussion into separate threads, i.e. subject: XXX; WAS: GIMP vs Photoshop subject: YYY; WAS: GIMP vs Photoshop, etc. ? It's going all over the shop. In a few months' time anybody wanting to look up XXX or YYY in the archives is going to miss them if they're all mixed up under this one thread "GIMP vs Photoshop". Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Square selection fill round ?????
On 02/08/10 22:24, Harry Strunc wrote: > Hi, thanks for the replies! > > I will explain better: > > Picture 1 is a bride standing in front of a grey wall. > But a guest is standing in the very right side of the picture...eating. > > I want to grab a pattern of that wall and paste it in ...covering the guest > > I dont want to crop the picture. I can do that. > I dont want to clone. I can do that. > > I want to copy a little piece of that wall pattern and make it fill up the > selection I make and get rid of the guest. > > Lee know, > Harry > . Maybe try this: Use the Path tool to mark out a suitable bit of wall elsewhere in the picture Path to Selection Click on the selected area, Edit=>Copy Then Edit =>Paste Go to Layers. Make the Floating Selection into a New Layer. Go to Move tool. Move the Pasted area (the wall) where you want it to cover up the guest. Then Anchor it, Merge Visible Layers or Flatten Image to fix it in place. You'll probably need to fiddle a bit to get a patch of wall that matches its surroundings properly. If you can't get a perfect match straight away you can usually finish off the edges with the clone tool. HTH Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Square selection fill round ?????
On 03/08/10 15:40, Doug wrote: > On 02/08/10 22:24, Harry Strunc wrote: >> Hi, thanks for the replies! >> >> I will explain better: >> >> Picture 1 is a bride standing in front of a grey wall. >> But a guest is standing in the very right side of the >> picture...eating. >> >> I want to grab a pattern of that wall and paste it in >> ...covering the guest >> >> I dont want to crop the picture. I can do that. >> I dont want to clone. I can do that. >> >> I want to copy a little piece of that wall pattern and >> make it fill up the selection I make and get rid of the >> guest. >> >> Lee know, >> Harry >> . > Maybe try this: > > Use the Path tool to mark out a suitable bit of wall > elsewhere in the picture > Path to Selection > Click on the selected area, Edit=>Copy > Then Edit =>Paste > Go to Layers. Make the Floating Selection into a New Layer. > Go to Move tool. > Move the Pasted area (the wall) where you want it to cover > up the guest. > Then Anchor it, Merge Visible Layers or Flatten Image to > fix it in place. > > You'll probably need to fiddle a bit to get a patch of > wall that matches its surroundings properly. > If you can't get a perfect match straight away you can > usually finish off the edges with the clone tool. > > HTH > > Doug > P.S. You may also need to rotate the Pasted area, scale it or distort it to fit everywhere, but it's not a big deal Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help installation, 2.6.1-html-en.tar.bz2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Where does html/en need to be installed in GIMP file structure, please? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNT/GLAAoJEIpOLnult3mgLTgH/2AAgP0XhyQQZBVxRwRjZHny 9myd5hUT94WwqHs38L08c0HdfaV2IpSSat+crykaYu2f3irY7qU/2L68Kk+1oqRG 07J+yFY9FgKToVIzOFKajmz1RV2ResZioNLj4tWqdw+p2AgpNMHF1aU5wu/TT1Nz dsWjknLQiwXh+CWdwS5bg/4T7NapA3qSjBAIOOsjApb62nBnA5ragAIJqUo6FxSH KvkjEHwyt8dO+So4iNMEtvdQ3BwT0JH8NLPa44tSzqrvLzhfTX7P8GhouK6Wf8Ec vnikh31/NC/CFDzlAjWQ7F+GRCAKvVmMFaP7/7AivUCrMayeMupLGtIDQvKEha0= =+ZsA -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
