Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2016-02-12 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 20:29:57 -0600 "J. Leslie Turriff" wrote: > On Friday 05 February 2016 04:56:53 vitalif wrote: > > >Everyone just rebuild gimp with my patch > > >http://svn.yourcmc.ru/viewvc.py/vitalif/trunk/scripts/patch-gimp-unite-sav > > >e_export.diff?view=co and be

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2016-02-11 Thread J. Leslie Turriff
On Friday 05 February 2016 04:56:53 vitalif wrote: > >Everyone just rebuild gimp with my patch > >http://svn.yourcmc.ru/viewvc.py/vitalif/trunk/scripts/patch-gimp-unite-sav > >e_export.diff?view=co and be happy > > P.S or use prebuilt gimp packages for debian unstable from my repo: >

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2016-02-06 Thread Richard
> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > From: ralf.kest...@gmx.net > Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 11:29:29 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior > > Go to Edit > Preferences > Environment > Saving Images and untip > "Confirm closing of

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2016-02-05 Thread Ralf Kestler
Am 05.02.2016 um 05:03 schrieb Richard: As for the second part, confirm closing of exported-not-saved images, personally I would prefer this to be a preferences option but I've never seen any support for the idea expressed by GIMP devs. (Though I haven't exactly been tracking it, either.)

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2016-02-04 Thread Richard
> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 22:30:23 +0100 > From: for...@gimpusers.com > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > CC: notificati...@gimpusers.com > Subject: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior > > >Just wanted to add yet another voice to the "really annoyed" list. > >That is all. > > I came

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2016-02-03 Thread Psiweapon
I adopted the solution proposed by the devs and stopped using it altogether :o) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives:

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2014-11-07 Thread Richard
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org From: mell...@openmailbox.org Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 22:07:07 +0200 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior Richard strata_ran...@hotmail.com writes: Such as when I'm downscaling digital photos for uploading to the Internet. Did

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2014-11-07 Thread Melleus
Sorry then. By the way, ImageMagick is a very capable software for image resizing. More capable then GIMP I beleive. It has 16 bit color depth by default (and can do even floating point) and a number of high quality computation algoritms for resampling images to choose from. Sometimes it's faster

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2014-11-06 Thread Richard
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 14:47:57 -0500 From: ptilopt...@gmail.com To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior * Richard strata_ran...@hotmail.com [11-03-14 13:27]: There's only one problem with the current model: I, for one, would love

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2014-11-06 Thread Melleus
Richard strata_ran...@hotmail.com writes: Such as when I'm downscaling digital photos for uploading to the Internet. Did you try ImageMagick/GraphicsMagick for that? It's a way faster and richer in opportunities. And there's no save/export problem. Why live with a problem that is so easy to

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2014-11-04 Thread Norbert Preining
On Tue, 04 Nov 2014, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: Do you really think arrogance and sarcasm helps deescalating the problem? No, and that's why I'm kindly asking you to refrain from emails like this one in your further contributions to GIMP's mailing lists. Thank you. [...] For the record,

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2014-11-03 Thread Richard
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org From: mell...@openmailbox.org Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 16:06:54 +0200 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior Everybody who prefers to lose information when exporting the work to jpg instead of saving it and posesses the skill of reading

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2014-11-03 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Richard strata_ran...@hotmail.com [11-03-14 13:27]: To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org From: mell...@openmailbox.org Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 16:06:54 +0200 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior Everybody who prefers to lose information when exporting the work to jpg

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2014-11-03 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Norbert Preining wrote: On 2014/11/02, at 22:22, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: If there were any, wouldn't you be able to see fireworks from pretty much any part of Earth? :) Do you really think arrogance and sarcasm helps deescalating the problem? No, and

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2014-11-02 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 3:35 AM, miyuumeow wrote: So my question to the developers is: Has there been any futher developments to remedy this issue? If there were any, wouldn't you be able to see fireworks from pretty much any part of Earth? :) Alex

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2014-11-02 Thread Norbert Preining
On 2014/11/02, at 22:22, Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: If there were any, wouldn't you be able to see fireworks from pretty much any part of Earth? :) Do you really think arrogance and sarcasm helps deescalating the problem? You seem to be very Gnome-ish in

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2014-11-02 Thread Melleus
Everybody who prefers to lose information when exporting the work to jpg instead of saving it and posesses the skill of reading could find in the manual the way to remap the hotleys. No problem to discuss. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2014-11-02 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Melleus mell...@openmailbox.org [11-02-14 09:08]: Everybody who prefers to lose information when exporting the work to jpg instead of saving it and posesses the skill of reading could find in the manual the way to remap the hotleys. No problem to discuss. Ability to post email !=

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2014-11-01 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* miyuumeow for...@gimpusers.com [11-01-14 20:36]: I /hate/ the new Save vs. Export behavior. It is completely non-intuitive to me, it makes my brain stumble every time I try to do just about any of the things that I do in GIMP on a regular basis, and it makes most of my workflows take more

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2014-10-11 Thread Richard
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 16:40:59 +1100 From: p...@pricom.com.au To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior Alex, On 2014-10-10 16:23, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: 10 окт. 2014 г. 4:25 chefebe for...@gimpusers.com написал

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2014-10-10 Thread Philip Rhoades
Alex, On 2014-10-10 16:23, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: 10 окт. 2014 г. 4:25 chefebe for...@gimpusers.com написал: In violation of good forum behavior I love gimp. I am indebted to the creators and maintainers. Thanks, but first offense is still first offence. OK, is it first offense

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2014-10-09 Thread Kasim Ahmic
Oh. My. Fucking. God. Sent from my iPod On Oct 9, 2014, at 8:25 PM, chefebe for...@gimpusers.com wrote: In violation of good forum behavior I am commenting on this eternal, and very old thread because that is all I have the bandwidth to do. I also hate the export feature. I even keep an

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2014-10-09 Thread Bob Long
chefebe wrote on 10/10/14 10:25: In violation of good forum behavior I am commenting on this eternal, and very old thread because that is all I have the bandwidth to do. I also hate the export feature. I even keep an old Linux system around that has 2.6 on it so I can quickly do simple

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2014-10-09 Thread Steve Kinney
On 10/09/2014 08:25 PM, chefebe wrote: I even keep an old Linux system around that has 2.6 on it so I can quickly do simple edits because of this annoyance. I don't believe you. It's as simple as that. Video and independent testimony, or it didn't happen.

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2014-10-09 Thread Robert T. Short
On 10/09/2014 05:38 PM, Bob Long wrote: chefebe wrote on 10/10/14 10:25: In violation of good forum behavior I am commenting on this eternal, and very old thread because that is all I have the bandwidth to do. I also hate the export feature. I even keep an old Linux system around that has

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2014-10-09 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
10 окт. 2014 г. 4:25 chefebe for...@gimpusers.com написал: In violation of good forum behavior I love gimp. I am indebted to the creators and maintainers. Thanks, but first offense is still first offence. Alex ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-11-04 Thread maderios
On 11/04/2013 02:30 AM, dksill wrote: I fully agree with the first post of this blog. the question whether to save unsaved work spoils the whole efficiency to quickly edit a file. Hi It's a very old story... *Four years ago* Gimp developer Martin Nordholts explained on his blog: A lot of

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-11-04 Thread Richard Gitschlag
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 02:30:11 +0100 From: for...@gimpusers.com To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org CC: t...@gimpusers.com Subject: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior I fully agree with the first post of this blog. the question whether to save unsaved work spoils the whole

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-11-04 Thread Stephen Allen
On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 04:53:29PM +0100, maderios wrote: On 11/04/2013 02:30 AM, dksill wrote: I fully agree with the first post of this blog. the question whether to save unsaved work spoils the whole efficiency to quickly edit a file. Hi It's a very old story... *Four years ago* Gimp

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-11-04 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 5:22 AM, Stephen Allen wrote: On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 04:53:29PM +0100, maderios wrote: On 11/04/2013 02:30 AM, dksill wrote: I fully agree with the first post of this blog. the question whether to save unsaved work spoils the whole efficiency to quickly edit a file.

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-11-04 Thread Burnie West
On 11/04/2013 05:37 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: Maderios has already been unsubscribed for repetitive violation of the code of conduct. ?? - but M still posts? ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-11-04 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
Replied offlist. No, he doesn't. His last email was his last. On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:04 AM, Burnie West w...@ieee.org wrote: On 11/04/2013 05:37 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: Maderios has already been unsubscribed for repetitive violation of the code of conduct. ?? - but M still posts?

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-10-14 Thread Stephen Allen
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 09:02:27PM -0500, Thomas Widlar wrote: Good. +1 ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-10-13 Thread Richard Gitschlag
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 10:29:29 -0600 From: johnme...@pueblocomputing.com To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior When did Ted Stryker become part of the development team? If that's an Airplane reference, I don't get

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-10-12 Thread maderios
On 10/12/2013 01:44 PM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: On 12 Oct 2013 19:23, maderios mader...@gmail.com mailto:mader...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/11/2013 10:20 PM, Melleus wrote: P.S. If you really prefer accidentally loosing your information you can surely redefine hot keys. Hi This is a

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-10-12 Thread Andrew Bridget
On 12/10/2013 13:23, maderios wrote: I save at least every milestone, sometimes every step Surely this backup's the reason why the software works as it does now, as saving each step would mean saving to the native file format (ie .xcf) and then exporting to the finished required format ( .png,

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-10-12 Thread Melleus
Andrew Bridget andrew_brid...@btinternet.com writes: On 12/10/2013 13:23, maderios wrote: I save at least every milestone, sometimes every step Surely this backup's the reason why the software works as it does now, Bingo! ___ gimp-user-list

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-10-11 Thread maderios
On 10/10/2013 12:56 PM, Andrew Bridget wrote: On 10/10/2013 11:17, Helen wrote: Although I also hate the new feature which restricts what I can do, I don't think taking a poll is a useful idea. It seems to me the developers ought to be aware, as everyone else is, that this was a bad move,

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-10-11 Thread Melleus
I work with the tool from its version numbered 2.4. And I use it primarily as a photo processing tool. I can say that the save/export feature is a very logical one from my point of view as I can be sure that I have ALL THE INFORMATION in the SAVED image as long as I can have only PARTIAL

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-10-10 Thread Helen
Although I also hate the new feature which restricts what I can do, I don't think taking a poll is a useful idea. It seems to me the developers ought to be aware, as everyone else is, that this was a bad move, that many (who knows whether most, but certainly many) GIMP users hate it, and just

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-10-10 Thread Michael Natterer
On 10/10/2013 11:20 PM, vitalif wrote: We are given this software by the we can not demand anything Of course! And the best of it is that the license is free so you can at least patch it for yourself [just like I did]. But my idea was that it's generally a good idea to listen to your users

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-10-10 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 1:37 AM, vitalif wrote: Why don't the haters unsubscribe instead? Of course because we don't hate the thread in our inbox, we just hate the feature! :) Let me repeat it for you: we will *not* make the save/export separation a configurable option. Thanks, in fact I've

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-10-10 Thread Thomas Widlar
Good. On 10/10/2013 8:54 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: You've just banned yourself from the mailing list. Alexandre ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership:

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-10-04 Thread Richard Gitschlag
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 21:48:31 +0200 From: for...@gimpusers.com To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org CC: t...@gimpusers.com Subject: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior Your social skills surely reflect your intelligence level. Ha-ha. I just say that what I think and don't feel

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-10-04 Thread Eduard Braun
Hi all, I don't get it! This discussion is going on for months now, constantly spamming the mailing list. Still I don't see even the slightest willingness to compromise on either side. It seems you are carrying out a war with hardened fronts on the back of GIMP which will give neither side

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-10-04 Thread John Meyer
Or you could just remap the keyboard shortcuts. On 10/4/2013 10:45 AM, Eduard Braun wrote: Hi all, I don't get it! This discussion is going on for months now, constantly spamming the mailing list. Still I don't see even the slightest willingness to compromise on either side. It seems you

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-10-04 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 1:07 AM, vitalif wrote: What constructive actions can be applied? I think these are: 1) Just make a configuration setting for enabling/disabling the format restriction for Save. 2) I think that even disabling the restriction on a permanent basis without adding any

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-10-03 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* vitalif for...@gimpusers.com [10-03-13 12:41]: I want to say two things: 1) The new behaviour is a TOTAL PIECE OF SHIT. And the authors are just MORONS because they argue that if you dislike it, you are an idiot, misuse gimp and should only use MSPAINT because of a low IQ. Just like it was

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-10-03 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * vitalif for...@gimpusers.com [10-03-13 12:41]: I want to say two things: 1) The new behaviour is a TOTAL PIECE OF SHIT. And the authors are just MORONS because they argue that if you dislike it, you are an idiot, misuse gimp and

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-14 Thread Richard Gitschlag
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 14:03:04 -0700 From: k...@anechoicmedia.com To: akk...@shallowsky.com CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior I find it oddly unsettling how the developers have consistently turned a deaf ear to this important

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-13 Thread Madeleine Fisher
[...] I just copy/paste and scale as needed but I cannot work on anything else until I anchor it. Actually you can also click New layer in the layers dalogue to turn the floating selection into a layer, and then you can work on other things. Very frustrating when I want to adjust something

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-13 Thread Richard Gitschlag
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 13:46:58 +0800 From: ngoonee.t...@gmail.com To: mader...@gmail.com CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior Thousands? In all the time I've followed this list I've seen maybe a dozen threads. I believe all of them

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-13 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Richard Gitschlag strata_ran...@hotmail.com [08-13-13 11:26]: This single topic has nearly 300 replies by now (if not more), and there have certainly been dozens of other, smaller topics over time, mostly clustered around 2.8's launch. It is probably safe to assume there are over 1,000

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-13 Thread Akkana Peck
Oon-Ee Ng writes: Thousands? In all the time I've followed this list I've seen maybe a dozen threads. I believe all of them have your replies in there. Trying to count the number of complainants, I estimate probably one or two dozen as well. In case people are curious: I've been saving posts

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-13 Thread maderios
On 08/13/2013 07:14 PM, Akkana Peck wrote: Oon-Ee Ng writes: Thousands? In all the time I've followed this list I've seen maybe a dozen threads. I believe all of them have your replies in there. Trying to count the number of complainants, I estimate probably one or two dozen as well. In case

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-13 Thread Burnie West
On 08/13/2013 11:48 AM, maderios wrote: ...Akkana ___ snip That's all I can say Regards -- Maderios Ah-h-hwish it were so ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-13 Thread Kim Cascone
I too have been following this thread since it's inception (not as empirically as Ms Peck though) and see the same exact complaints come up time and again I find it oddly unsettling how the developers have consistently turned a deaf ear to this important issue by not making it possible in the

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-12 Thread Burnie West
On 08/11/2013 01:38 PM, Jernej Simončič wrote: On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 06:41:50 -0700, Richard Gitschlag wrote: GIMP is the only application I know of where the selection mask is considered actual document content (rather than an interface entity used for manipulating document content). That

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-12 Thread Richard Gitschlag
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org From: jernej|s-gm...@eternallybored.org Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 22:38:04 +0200 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior In Paint Shop Pro and Excel the selection is also saved with document. Speaking of Excel, Excel has really weird cut

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-12 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 08:56:22 -0700, Richard Gitschlag wrote: Speaking of Excel, Excel has really weird cut-and-paste behavior compared to every other app I know; the Cut command doesn't actually remove anything from the document or place it on the clipboard, it just marks it with marching

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-12 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Jernej Simončič jernej|s-gm...@eternallybored.org [08-12-13 12:02]: On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 08:56:22 -0700, Richard Gitschlag wrote: Speaking of Excel, Excel has really weird cut-and-paste behavior compared to every other app I know; the Cut command doesn't actually remove anything from

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-12 Thread Joseph A. Nagy, Jr
On 08/11/13 08:41, Richard Gitschlag wrote: On the contrary, this is the dangerous situation... - load file - create complicated selection/path to update part of the image - update that part - export image - quit (and throw the selection away...). IMHO the only safe case is when the image has

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-12 Thread Richard Gitschlag
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 11:14:20 -0500 From: jnagyjr1...@gmail.com To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior I had meant to send this on-list yesterday...didn't realize my error until Richard replied off-list. Don't forget the 'floating

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-12 Thread maderios
On 08/10/2013 06:54 PM, John Meyer wrote: On 8/10/2013 10:50 AM, maderios wrote: On 08/09/2013 03:07 PM, s.kortenweg wrote: When i started 50 years ago in the early days of IT as prof was me told that there are 2 rules for program developers : first keep it simple and second the user must be

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-12 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2013-08-12 at 11:14 -0500, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote: [...] I just copy/paste and scale as needed but I cannot work on anything else until I anchor it. Actually you can also click New layer in the layers dalogue to turn the floating selection into a layer, and then you can work on other

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-12 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:08 AM, maderios mader...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/10/2013 06:54 PM, John Meyer wrote: On 8/10/2013 10:50 AM, maderios wrote: On 08/09/2013 03:07 PM, s.kortenweg wrote: When i started 50 years ago in the early days of IT as prof was me told that there are 2 rules for

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-11 Thread Richard Gitschlag
On the contrary, this is the dangerous situation... - load file - create complicated selection/path to update part of the image - update that part - export image - quit (and throw the selection away...). IMHO the only safe case is when the image has one singe layer without mask, no

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-11 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 06:41:50 -0700, Richard Gitschlag wrote: GIMP is the only application I know of where the selection mask is considered actual document content (rather than an interface entity used for manipulating document content). That was a very workflow-breaking issue to come to

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-11 Thread Ofnuts
On 08/11/2013 03:41 PM, Richard Gitschlag wrote: On the contrary, this is the dangerous situation... - load file - create complicated selection/path to update part of the image - update that part - export image - quit (and throw the selection away...). IMHO the only safe case is when the

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-10 Thread Cristian Secară
În data de Fri, 09 Aug 2013 14:41:01 -0700, Tom Williams a scris: A couple of weeks ago, I stumbled upon a similar behavior in MS Word 2010. I had created a document that I wanted to save as a PDF file. I used the Save As function to do so. The PDF file got saved and Adobe Reader was opened

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-10 Thread Thomas Taylor
ENOUGH ALREADY - PLEASE give this topic a burial. Tom ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-10 Thread Richard Gitschlag
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 11:07:34 +0300 From: li...@secarica.ro To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior În data de Fri, 09 Aug 2013 14:41:01 -0700, Tom Williams a scris: What realy misses here is some intelligent way in determining

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-10 Thread Ofnuts
On 08/10/2013 03:37 PM, Richard Gitschlag wrote: I can agree with you here. If: - No changes have been made since the last export command, and: - The current image has no XCF file associated with it Then IMHO this is a scenario where suppressing the Save changes? prompt can be quite useful

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-10 Thread Tom Williams
On 08/10/2013 01:07 AM, Cristian Secară wrote: În data de Fri, 09 Aug 2013 14:41:01 -0700, Tom Williams a scris: A couple of weeks ago, I stumbled upon a similar behavior in MS Word 2010. I had created a document that I wanted to save as a PDF file. I used the Save As function to do so. The

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-10 Thread maderios
On 08/09/2013 03:07 PM, s.kortenweg wrote: When i started 50 years ago in the early days of IT as prof was me told that there are 2 rules for program developers : first keep it simple and second the user must be happy with the results of your work. In the endless discussion of export vs. Save i

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-10 Thread John Meyer
On 8/10/2013 10:50 AM, maderios wrote: On 08/09/2013 03:07 PM, s.kortenweg wrote: When i started 50 years ago in the early days of IT as prof was me told that there are 2 rules for program developers : first keep it simple and second the user must be happy with the results of your work. In the

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-10 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 8:54 PM, John Meyer wrote: And I don't know about Enlightenment, but I'm assuming that the main developer isn't trying to please everybody. Listen to everybody, fine. But pleasing everybody is the same as pleasing nobody. Sadly not everyone understands the

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-10 Thread maderios
On 08/10/2013 08:46 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 8:54 PM, John Meyer wrote: And I don't know about Enlightenment, but I'm assuming that the main developer isn't trying to please everybody. Listen to everybody, fine. But pleasing everybody is the same as pleasing

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-10 Thread John Meyer
On 8/10/2013 1:29 PM, maderios wrote: On 08/10/2013 08:46 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 8:54 PM, John Meyer wrote: And I don't know about Enlightenment, but I'm assuming that the main developer isn't trying to please everybody. Listen to everybody, fine. But

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-10 Thread Stephen Allen
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 01:30:10PM -0600, John Meyer wrote: On 8/10/2013 1:29 PM, maderios wrote: On 08/10/2013 08:46 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 8:54 PM, John Meyer wrote: And I don't know about Enlightenment, but I'm assuming that the main developer isn't

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-09 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 2:42 PM, pitibonom wrote: EDIT: amazing the captcha of this posting window is 'dictatorship' :D a subtle message ? ;-) Wait till you get handcuffs or ball and chain :) so as a conclusion you mean that because it's free, it's allowed to be not functionnal. Am i wrong ?

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-09 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 2:59 PM, pitibonom wrote: Finally am wondering wether there's still a branch of the 2.6 version that is active ? There's no such thing to the best of my knowledge. Is there even the possibility to download the old 2.6 somewhere ? Yes, of course. Ah it seems yes, but

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-09 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:07 PM, pitibonom wrote: really amazing Alexandre, the feeling you give me that am speaking to some kind of deity :D Would you like to repent while at that? :) Mebe in your supreme knowledge and power you could convince other companies like unity, adobe,

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-09 Thread s.kortenweg
When i started 50 years ago in the early days of IT as prof was me told that there are 2 rules for program developers : first keep it simple and second the user must be happy with the results of your work. In the endless discussion of export vs. Save i believe that the second rule is violated.

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-09 Thread Simon Budig
s.kortenweg (s.korten...@hccnet.nl) wrote: When i started 50 years ago in the early days of IT as prof was me told that there are 2 rules for program developers : first keep it simple and second the user must be happy with the results of your work. Compared to 50 years ago there has been a

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-09 Thread Ofnuts
On 08/09/2013 12:42 PM, pitibonom wrote: It's quite natural to hope saving a pic in the format it has been loaded. Load a jpg ? ok, modify it and save it as jpg. Why is it natural ? just because jpg format ( though it degrades the image quality at each save, but this is another question ) is red

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-09 Thread Daniel
On Fri, 2013-08-09 at 21:02 +0200, Ofnuts wrote: On 08/09/2013 12:42 PM, pitibonom wrote: It's quite natural to hope saving a pic in the format it has been loaded. Load a jpg ? ok, modify it and save it as jpg. Why is it natural ? just because jpg format ( though it degrades the image

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-09 Thread Ofnuts
On 08/09/2013 09:09 PM, Daniel wrote: On Fri, 2013-08-09 at 21:02 +0200, Ofnuts wrote: On 08/09/2013 12:42 PM, pitibonom wrote: It's quite natural to hope saving a pic in the format it has been loaded. Load a jpg ? ok, modify it and save it as jpg. Why is it natural ? just because jpg format (

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-09 Thread Kristian Rink
First off, I have been using Gimp ever since 0.9.something, it's still my most used GNU/Linux desktop application, and I did quite some cursing the very day the new save/export behaviour was introduced - but mainly because, in the end, it broke a workflow I was used to. Am 09.08.2013 21:09,

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-09 Thread Tom Williams
On 08/09/2013 01:30 PM, pbft wrote: This thread is like a wound that won't heal - I keep picking the scab even though I know I should just let it be. For me, it seems that there are well-established precedents for this type of situation, and in general it would be better to follow

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-08 Thread Rauh, Stuart
PM To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior * Yottskry for...@gimpusers.com [08-07-13 15:12]: [...] The best thing that can happen to GIMP now is that the current developers all experience some sort of programming-related long term memory

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-07 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Yottskry wrote: The sheer arrogance of the developers is astonishing. Essentially the attitude is that if you don't like the mindless changes they've made then you're simply not part of the target audience. Apparently GIMP is aimed at professionals. Fine, but

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-07 Thread A. den Oudsten
Op 07-08-13 21:24, Alexandre Prokoudine schreef: On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Yottskry wrote: The sheer arrogance of the developers is astonishing. Essentially the attitude is that if you don't like the mindless changes they've made then you're simply not part of the target audience.

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-07 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Yottskry for...@gimpusers.com [08-07-13 15:12]: [...] The best thing that can happen to GIMP now is that the current developers all experience some sort of programming-related long term memory loss and the project can be taken over by people who care about what users think. Or that users

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-03 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sat, 2013-08-03 at 18:44 +0200, Sam_ wrote: a great improvement : 1 button for everything. I'm guessing that a window with only one button marked Save, and no open, paste, open as layers, cut, copy, filters or other features would not in fact satisfy you, Sam_. In fact no recent version of

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-03 Thread Kasim Ahmic
I understand exactly how you feel. I hated the export feature too for like a month or so until it just became second nature for me to use it. It shouldn't take you that long to get used to it. However, if it bothers you that much, there's a plugin you can install that'll add a new option

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-07-31 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 8:51 PM, asbesto wrote: I really hope for a fork of the entire Gimp project someday. http://github.com/mskala/noxcf-gimp The fork is in your hands. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ gimp-user-list mailing

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-07-31 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 07/31/2013 12:58 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: http://github.com/mskala/noxcf-gimp The fork is in your hands. awesome, I tried apt-get install noxcf-gimp and it didn't find it.. is this package real?? -- Paul Cartwright ___ gimp-user-list

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-07-31 Thread scl
Paul Cartwright wrote: awesome, I tried apt-get install noxcf-gimp and it didn't find it.. is this package real?? It's a Github repository. You can clone it with Git or download the sources ZIP file (see the right border on that site) and build this GIMP fork from the sources. Kind regards,

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-07-31 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 07/31/2013 12:58 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: http://github.com/mskala/noxcf-gimp The fork is in your hands. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org well, the good news is I was able to download it. the bad news is, it won't install.. SIGH this is the part where linux isn't

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