Re: [MBZ] Turbines for power and heat [was Re: The demise pf Pruis h*ters]

2015-09-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
As someone who was involved in research involving micro turbines for distributed power, I can fully agree with what Grant is saying. Back in my Kohler days we looked closely at small gas turbines for power generation, and so many of the requirements were beyond the scope of realistic

Re: [MBZ] Turbines for power and heat [was Re: The demise pf Pruis h*ters]

2015-09-11 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Turbine engine may make sense on paper, but in reality, there is no cheap turbine engine. Having several decades of experience in the manufacture, sale, and use of turbine engines, including APU [aux power unit] systems, my experience tells me the application is not practical for automotive use..

[MBZ] Was, wherez my Paatz.

2015-09-11 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Alles.Last night I said that these things come in threes. Well #3 was that this morning the olde and rusty '87 300TD was stone dead, no lights, no start, again.Broken ground strap. Wait for it. As I was replacing the ground strap, it came to my attention that the whole cap of the shock tower

Re: [MBZ] Was, wherez my Paatz.

2015-09-11 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Wow, that is _rusty_! Rusty but no longer trusty. So, is the automatic antenna by chance working and how much would it cost shipped down this way? I could also use some tailgate parts... - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <

Re: [MBZ] Turbines for power and heat [was Re: The demise pf Pruish*ters]

2015-09-11 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
'Zackly Wilton - Original Message - From: "G Mann via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "G Mann" Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Turbines for power and heat [was Re: The demise

Re: [MBZ] Terminology [was: Re: Benzin price Wuz: CLK55 needed]

2015-09-11 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 11:58:35 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > Igarots are very shy and only come out at night to nibble the asphalt > from the edges of the road, and are very rarely seen. This is why in > WI the edges of the asphalt roads start to crumble and fall

Re: [MBZ] Was, wherez my Paatz.

2015-09-11 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 11/09/2015 11:33 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Alles.Last night I said that these things come in threes. Well #3 was that this morning the olde and rusty '87 300TD was stone dead, no lights, no start, again.Broken ground strap. Wait for it. As I was replacing the ground strap, it

Re: [MBZ] Turbines for power and heat [was Re: The demise pf Pruis h*ters]

2015-09-11 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
So sorry to bring rain to the parade.. Reality is like that. The internal combustion engine is noisy, stinks, pollutes, and it's inefficient. However, to date, there is no practical replacement for use in motorcars. The theory can be raised that mankind is inherently lazy. Horses, for example,

Re: [MBZ] Turbines for power and heat [was Re: The demise pf Pruis h*ters]

2015-09-11 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 09:56:52 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > So sorry to bring rain to the parade.. > > Reality is like that. The internal combustion engine is noisy, stinks, > pollutes, and it's inefficient. However, to date, there is no practical > replacement for

Re: [MBZ] Was, wherez my Paatz.

2015-09-11 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Meade.Wow! I have not yet decided on the hulk's future and the scavengers are out!Seriously, I have not yet decided what the future holds. The antenna is kaput, permanently up. The tailgate is keeping the rain out, so far.I'll let you (se) know, when the decision is made. Fred Moir.Lynn

Re: [MBZ] The demise pf Pruis h*ters

2015-09-11 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Like this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOT-OF-TWO-MICROTURBO-SAPHIRE-TURBINE-APU-PACKAGES-FOR-FALCON-CORPORATE-JET-/271958346624?hash=item3f51fb0b80=mtr On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 11:33 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I like the idea of having a back-up fossil fuel engine

Re: [MBZ] Was, wherez my Paatz.

2015-09-11 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Curly.Don't think I'll chance it. If it came loose it would, at least bore a hole in the hood, whilst giving me the choice of new underwear. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. > Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 11:33:49 -0500 > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was, wherez my Paatz. > From:

Re: [MBZ] Was, wherez my Paatz.

2015-09-11 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Randy, it is a strut but not a coil-over strut (there is a separate spring). Very bad if the upper strut came free, but not quite as bad as the loss of control when the ball joint lets go. Fred, thinking a little further, perhaps the issue is the rubber strut mount (replaceable with ease) and

Re: [MBZ] The demise pf Pruis h*ters

2015-09-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
As a young boy growing up in Indianapolis, I vividly recall the revolutionary application of a gas turbine in a major motorsports event: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STP-Paxton_Turbocar Under full race setup the reciprocating engined cars would easily exceed 120 db sound levels. Andy’s car

Re: [MBZ] Gov. Taking

2015-09-11 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Here in SC there is apparently some under-the-radar resettlement of some sort of "refugees" "immigrants" or "migrants" or something, being coordinated by some "religious" organizations that stand to make a pile of dinars off all the free shiite that is being given away.

Re: [MBZ] Terminology [was: Re: Benzin price Wuz: CLK55 needed]

2015-09-11 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 11/09/2015 1:43 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: We definitely have Igarots eating our private asphalt road here at the airpark. Where do we get Hodags? On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Igarots are very shy and only come out at

Re: [MBZ] Terminology [was: Re: Benzin price Wuz: CLK55 needed]

2015-09-11 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
We definitely have Igarots eating our private asphalt road here at the airpark. Where do we get Hodags? On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Igarots are very shy and only come out at night to nibble the asphalt from > the edges of the

Re: [MBZ] Turbines for power and heat [was Re: The demise pf Pruis h*ters]

2015-09-11 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 09:56:52 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes wrote: So sorry to bring rain to the parade.. Reality is like that. The internal combustion engine is noisy, stinks, pollutes, and it's inefficient. However, to date, there is no practical replacement for use

Re: [MBZ] Was, wherez my Paatz.

2015-09-11 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
My wife's grandfather used to tell a story about driving down to Florida in the winter. He had the car filled up at a service station along the way and the gas jockey checked the oil for him and then came to the window and asked him to come look under the hood. There was oil on the shock and

Re: [MBZ] Turbines for power and heat [was Re: The demise pf Pruis h*ters]

2015-09-11 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I've read about people making power with a Lister clone and using the waste heat in the house. Apparently its possible to find significant savings there. Lister engines are super cool too... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes To: Okie Benz

Re: [MBZ] Turbines for power and heat [was Re: The demise pf Pruis h*ters]

2015-09-11 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
This reminds me that Kohler was doing something not long after I had left with "capstone" turbines. Not sure of the significance, but I do recall the term being used. I know they would have been relatively small units, if I recall in the 10kW-15kW range. They were talking at one time about

Re: [MBZ] Terminology [was: Re: Benzin price Wuz: CLK55 needed]

2015-09-11 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Having lived in southeast Wisconsin for eight years, I never heard of such a thing. The wife used to go to Tomahawk regularly, as Harley-Davidson's fiberglass plant was there, but she never mentioned anything like this. I'll have to ask her. Maybe their range wasn't that far from

Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?

2015-09-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
This is my third in less than a decade. On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It seems like you've done a bunch of sphere replacements though. I guess > with two cars... > I think my new VW Golf needs brakes, I haven't done that in a few

Re: [MBZ] Terminology [was: Re: Benzin price Wuz: CLK55 needed]

2015-09-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Having lived in southeast Wisconsin for eight years, I never heard of such a thing. The wife used to go to Tomahawk regularly, as Harley-Davidson’s fiberglass plant was there, but she never mentioned anything like this. I’ll have to ask her. Maybe their range wasn’t that far from

Re: [MBZ] Turbines for power and heat [was Re: The demise pf Pruis h*ters]

2015-09-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
This reminds me that Kohler was doing something not long after I had left with “capstone” turbines. Not sure of the significance, but I do recall the term being used. I know they would have been relatively small units, if I recall in the 10kW-15kW range. They were talking at one time about

Re: [MBZ] Turbines for power and heat [was Re: The demise pf Pruis h*ters]

2015-09-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 4:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > I've read about people making power with a Lister clone and using the waste > heat in the house. Apparently its possible to find significant savings there. > Lister engines are super cool too... >

Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?

2015-09-11 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
It seems like you've done a bunch of sphere replacements though. I guess with two cars... I think my new VW Golf needs brakes, I haven't done that in a few years. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc:

Re: [MBZ] Gov. Taking

2015-09-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I'd love to but "Mountain man" already volunteered. On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 12:45 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Why yes Andrew.. what a splendid idea... > > Pack up and go live in a war zone, in a mud house, with no running water or > medical care, under constant

Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?

2015-09-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Max, I only do serious DIY work under the supervision of factory trained techs at MBCA tech sessions held at MB dealerships on qweekends. So far, no disappointments in nearly 30 years.. On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Fred Moir via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Mao.What

Re: [MBZ] Turbines for power and heat [was Re: The demise pf Pruis h*ters]

2015-09-11 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> G wrote: > > Turbine engine may make sense on paper, but in reality, > there is no cheap turbine engine. Yet. I can dream. If Andrew can dream of a only-solar powered, I can dream of a practical, small turbine. > my experience tells me the application is not practical for > automotive use..

Re: [MBZ] wagon build

2015-09-11 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Yes I am thinking om606 in w124. I stopped learning about mercedes wagons after the 1987 model year. If you tell me 1995 wagon is a better body, I will believe you, but when did anyone do a 606 swap on one of those? What number is that? w201 or 202? If people are paying 14k for cars like this

Re: [MBZ] Turbines for power and heat [was Re: The demise pf Pruis h*ters]

2015-09-11 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Chryslers Turbine Cars of the '70s ".There were numerous functional challenges and limitations with the Turbine Cars, of which sluggish throttle response was the biggest. This is an inherent design limitation of turbines, as they need to spin up to over 40,000 rpm to develop full power.

Re: [MBZ] wagon build

2015-09-11 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
What is the drivetrain from? No reserve is the way to get people fired up. I sold a rather rusty but mechanically solid 1963 190dc sedan for almost 3K that way. Just let 'er rip. K On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 6:39 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I'm gearing up

Re: [MBZ] Turbines for power and heat [was Re: The demise pf Pruis h*ters]

2015-09-11 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Grant wrote: > Materials needed to withstand both temperature and speed of rotational > components are expensive. Address the story heard recently that GE has created a 3D printed turbine. Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Turbines for power and heat [was Re: The demise pf Pruis h*ters]

2015-09-11 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 11/09/2015 3:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I've read about people making power with a Lister clone and using the waste heat in the house. Apparently its possible to find significant savings there. Lister engines are super cool too... -Curt A lot of effort and trouble. I

Re: [MBZ] Turbines for power and heat [was Re: The demise pf Pruis h*ters]

2015-09-11 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 11/09/2015 3:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: On Sep 11, 2015, at 4:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I've read about people making power with a Lister clone and using the waste heat in the house. Apparently its possible to find significant savings there.

Re: [MBZ] Gov. Taking

2015-09-11 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Grant wrote: > Pack up and go live in a war zone, in a mud house, with no running water or > medical care, under constant threat of death.. Yes. And trade that with someone that lives here now. Give. That's the spirit. Thinking about it, the fear that we are supposed to have by gov't edict, the

Re: [MBZ] Gov. Taking

2015-09-11 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
--R wrote: > ..I hope that at least some of them are able to open some > restaurants to introduce summadat stuffs with all the taxpayer free shiite > they are getting. As Scott pointed out - there ain't no free. Trade places. I been here all my life. Trade place is intended to be permanent,

Re: [MBZ] Turbines for power and heat [was Re: The demise pf Pruis h*ters]

2015-09-11 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Dodge (well Chrysler I presume) made some kind of a turbine engine car way back in the '60s. Apparently it was actually quite nice to drive. I forget where I read the article about it, probably a magazine, it was awhile ago. All the issues related to startup and shutdown can be easily computer

Re: [MBZ] wagon build

2015-09-11 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Yah wagons only for me. Very practical cars. I have my eye on one. K On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 4:27 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Karl, > > Your 123 wagon is probably worth $5k or more on eBay. > > Are you looking for an '87 wagon or sedan to hot rod? Wagons are

Re: [MBZ] Turbines for power and heat [was Re: The demise pf Pruis h*ters]

2015-09-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I suspect he’s talking about the legacy Listers, not modern day ones. The “originals” Listers were practically machined out of a solid block of steel. You couldn’t kill them. 20,000 hours was not unheard of without any service other than basic maintenance. I used to work for a guy years ago

Re: [MBZ] wagon build

2015-09-11 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
What is with all the slammo wagon spring mutilators? That thing looks like it would shake your eye teeth out. If someone would actually race one, I could see the point. But that thing isn't even a diesel. Pshaw. Did they really run the w124 from 1987 through to 1995? Holy cow that is a long

Re: [MBZ] Terminology [was: Re: Benzin price Wuz: CLK55 needed]

2015-09-11 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
In 1893, newspapers reported the discovery of a hodag in Rhinelander, Wisconsin. It had "the head of a frog, the grinning face of a giant elephant, thick short legs set off by huge claws, the back of a dinosaur, and a long tail with spears at the end". The reports were instigated by well-known

Re: [MBZ] Turbines for power and heat [was Re: The demise pf Pruis h*ters]

2015-09-11 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Grant wrote: > Go Green, Be Clean as long as it's easy.. Too true!! mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] wagon build

2015-09-11 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Karl, Your 123 wagon is probably worth $5k or more on eBay. Are you looking for an '87 wagon or sedan to hot rod? Wagons are somewhat rare, and usually neglected and beat up. 124 wagons are generally sold for less than 123 wagons. My current dream is an OM606 turbo in a '95 wagon body. --

Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?

2015-09-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I received mine on time Wednesday. They are awesome, made in Germany Corteco accumulators purchased from an ebay seller that Rich Hawkins recommended. On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:16 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I was expecting my accumulators today or tomorrow.

Re: [MBZ] wagon build

2015-09-11 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
For Kaleb you change the ignition lock so it doesn't match any of the others. The car is $500, the key is $10,000... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Dan Penoff Sent: Friday, September

Re: [MBZ] Benzin price Wuz: CLK55 needed

2015-09-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
$1.80 for diesel?? Time to emigrate! On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:51 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Sure hope you didn't run into any Hodags or Igarots, passing so close to >> Rhinelander... >> >> You mention some places I haven't been since my youth, I'm sure the

Re: [MBZ] wagon build

2015-09-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I'm gearing up to sell my repainted 1985 300TD, diamond blue with a near-flawless dark blue interior, after market third seat, working A/C, and roof racks. It has a replacement drive train but so what? Should be an interesting ebay auction. The toughest part will be settling on a reserve

Re: [MBZ] wagon build

2015-09-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
$10k $500 for Kaleb. No title included, of course. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > I'm gearing up to sell my repainted 1985 300TD, diamond blue with a > near-flawless dark blue interior, after market

Re: [MBZ] wagon build

2015-09-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I was thinking the same number, perhaps wishfully... On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > $10k > > $500 for Kaleb. No title included, of course. > > Dan > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <

Re: [MBZ] God's plan for aging

2015-09-11 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Fred Moir wrote: > I'm becoming an olde coot. > 1) Distinguished: Geezer who wears suits, ties, shiny shoes, and is well > groomed most of the time. > > 2) Duffer: Golfer of ordinary ability: Includes geezers. > > 3) Codger: old-fashioned or eccentric geezer. > > 4) Geezer: Old man. > 5)

Re: [MBZ] Very rare car

2015-09-11 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Ooooh, an invisible car... -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 9:08 PM Subject: [MBZ] Very rare car Somebody needs to jump

Re: [MBZ] Terminology [was: Re: Benzin price Wuz: CLK55 needed]

2015-09-11 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Igarots are very shy and only come out at night to nibble the asphalt from the edges of the road, and are very rarely seen. This is why in WI the edges of the asphalt roads start to crumble and fall apart and create more work for the road construction crews. Nobody likes igarots except the road

Re: [MBZ] Was, wherez my Paatz.

2015-09-11 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Alles.Last night I said that these things come in threes. Well #3 was that this morning the olde and rusty '87 300TD was stone dead, no lights, no start, again.Broken ground strap. Wait for it. As I was replacing the ground strap, it came to my attention that the whole cap of the shock tower

Re: [MBZ] The demise pf Pruis h*ters

2015-09-11 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Definitely not pointless - Toymotors is selling a lot of them - profit is the point. On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 9:58 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Dimitri sez: Was thinking the same thing. Prius is a pointless turd. >> > > Naa, not pointless. It allows them to

Re: [MBZ] Gov. Taking

2015-09-11 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
The aspect of the current refugee situation which amazes me is the media focus on the refugees while completely ignoring the situation that is creating the problem. This is like focusing totally on burn treatments while refusing to put out (or even acknowledge) the fire. > -Original

Re: [MBZ] Turbines for power and heat [was Re: The demise pf Pruis h*ters]

2015-09-11 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 19:38:48 -0700 Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > > What kind of turbine would one use? > > One that doesn't exist yet! > > > Any idea where to buy one? > > In the future, I hope. > > > Turbine engine may make sense on paper, but in reality, there is

Re: [MBZ] wagon build

2015-09-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Here's what you need, Karl: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2443121-w124-estate-lowered.html#post12790073 Dan Sent from my iPad > On Sep 10, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes > wrote: > > I am thinking of going 87. Can't bring

Re: [MBZ] Turbines for power and heat [was Re: The demise pf Pruis h*ters]

2015-09-11 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Just so happens that I had opportunity to inspect then drive, for a short test drive, one of the Dodge Bros/ Chrysler turbine powered car, back when it came out. Local dealer had one in for a show and tell demonstration, with all the "This is the Wave of the Future" hoopla.. It was incredibly

Re: [MBZ] Very rare car

2015-09-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Blind eunuchs. On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 10:10 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > It is the extremely rare invisible version. Only two were built.. the other > one was parked and never found again... > > No photo record of the build line exists, it is rumored only blind

Re: [MBZ] Turbines for power and heat [was Re: The demise pf Pruis h*ters]

2015-09-11 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
What kind of turbine would one use? One that doesn't exist yet! Any idea where to buy one? In the future, I hope. Turbine engine may make sense on paper, but in reality, there is no cheap turbine engine. They're not cheap, so we don't sell a lot of them. We don't sell a lot of them,

Re: [MBZ] Very rare car

2015-09-11 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Does it also have the very rare zundfogel engine? --R (sent from my miniPad) On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: That's an amazing car - made in Stockholm Germany. It's a stealth model that cannot be photographed, either. On Fri, Sep 11,

Re: [MBZ] God's plan for aging

2015-09-11 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
I'm becoming an olde coot. 1) Distinguished 2) Duffer 3) Codger 4) Geezer 5) Coot Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. > Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 22:25:42 -0400 > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Subject: [MBZ] God's plan for aging > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > CC: arche...@embarqmail.com > >

Re: [MBZ] Very rare car

2015-09-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I would be willing to bet it has the rare Zundfolge engine Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:10 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > It is the extremely rare invisible version. Only two were built.. the other > one was parked and never found again... > > No

[MBZ] Very rare car

2015-09-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Somebody needs to jump on this quick http://maine.craigslist.org/cto/5217362694.html Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Turbines for power and heat [was Re: The demise pf Pruis h*ters]

2015-09-11 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
'63 Chrysler. Wilton - Original Message - From: "archer75--- via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Turbines for power and heat [was Re: The

Re: [MBZ] Terminology [was: Re: Benzin price Wuz: CLK55 needed]

2015-09-11 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 18:52:06 -0400 archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: > In 1893, newspapers reported the discovery of a hodag in Rhinelander, > Wisconsin. It had "the head of a frog, the grinning face of a giant > elephant, thick short legs set off by huge claws, the back of

Re: [MBZ] Very rare car

2015-09-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
That's an amazing car - made in Stockholm Germany. It's a stealth model that cannot be photographed, either. On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:08 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Somebody needs to jump on this quick > > http://maine.craigslist.org/cto/5217362694.html

Re: [MBZ] Very rare car

2015-09-11 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
It is the extremely rare invisible version. Only two were built.. the other one was parked and never found again... No photo record of the build line exists, it is rumored only blind workers were used... On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 6:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com>

Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?

2015-09-11 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
DIY, so it's zero cost to install. Even leaving out your time, and the annoyance factor that comes with having to do the same thing AGAIN, there will be fluid loss and that stuff is not particularly cheap. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?

2015-09-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
$21 per liter. Not a big deal. On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 10:20 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: > DIY, so it's zero cost to install. >> > > Even leaving out your time, and the annoyance factor that comes > with having to do the same thing AGAIN, there will be fluid loss > and that

Re: [MBZ] Gov. Taking

2015-09-11 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Sounds like you need to join the Peace Corps . . . On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > And I can learn how to eat the food there in > war wreck that you want to eat here in the comfort of luxury with fear > and wealth with hatred. > mao

[MBZ] God's plan for aging

2015-09-11 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Gerry wrote: Someone mentioned that there are several of us geezers on the list (those over about 75 years) in a somewhat critical tone. Younger people (those under 65) do find us geezers; with our various deficiencies; threatening or disturbing. Just so they can understand why we have these

Re: [MBZ] Terminology [was: Re: Benzin price Wuz: CLK55 needed]

2015-09-11 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Craig, your second version is how I learned to pronounce it, straight Midwestern: hoe-dag. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] The demise pf Pruis h*ters

2015-09-11 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
You need to watch the whole episode‎. South Park Season 10 Episode 2. It's on Hulu.  Rick  Sent from my BlackBerry Z10   Original Message   From: Mountain Man via Mercedes Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 10:40 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Mountain Man

Re: [MBZ] wagon build

2015-09-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Why not, if it's nice? You can always do a "second chance offer" if it doesn't meet the reserve. Just remember that eBay will rape you on fees. It's a necessary evil, but where else will you get that kind of exposure? With that in mind, you might want to consider signing up for BenzWorld and

Re: [MBZ] wagon build

2015-09-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The point being is that it will be mostly MB people who know the car well and will often pick nits. I don't expect you'll get top dollar there for just that reason, unless the car is really outstanding. If you want to get top dollar, I would say go to eBay. People pay stupid money for stuff

Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?

2015-09-11 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Andrew, recommend you write the installation date and odometer mileage on each accumulator, so that if they fail prior to about 100k miles / ten years, you will be able to decide if they were really better than paying more for the dealer parts. - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Sep 11,

Re: [MBZ] wagon build

2015-09-11 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
But does the AC BLOW ICE COLD and does it get 40mpg on FREE VEG OIL??? --R On 9/11/15 9:55 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I was thinking the same number, perhaps wishfully... On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: $10k $500 for

Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?

2015-09-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Well, dealer price was 300 % higher, so I think I will come out ahead, so long as I don't live past 110. On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Andrew, recommend you write the installation date and odometer mileage on > each accumulator, so

Re: [MBZ] wagon build

2015-09-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The last thing I need is a "discerning buyer"... On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > But does the AC BLOW ICE COLD and does it get 40mpg on FREE VEG OIL??? > > --R > > > > > On 9/11/15 9:55 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > >> I

Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?

2015-09-11 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Whats the installation cost?For instance if the dealer part was $300 vs $100 for yours and the installation is $200 say.If the cheap ones last 5 years and the good ones last 10 years you'd have been $100 ahead to buy the more expensive part. Never mind that when they fail it'll be the least

[MBZ] Gov. Taking

2015-09-11 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Scott wrote: > Well, here's one non-partisan truth: The Government can't give anything to > anybody without first taking it from someone else (and taking a cut along the > way). > Definitely sounds non-partisan but it certainly becomes partisan real quick, doesn't it? Maybe Gov. has a

Re: [MBZ] Gov. Taking

2015-09-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What a great idea - trading places. Sort of like an adult exchange service. On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Mountain Man via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Scott wrote: > > Well, here's one non-partisan truth: The Government can't give anything > to anybody without first taking

[MBZ] Turbines for power and heat [was Re: The demise pf Pruis h*ters]

2015-09-11 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 21:33:00 -0700 Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > The strength of a diesel is at partial throttle, which is > not necessary in a series hybrid. I think the _best_ series > hybrid would be a small turbine engine. Turbines, gas, > and diesels are all

Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?

2015-09-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
DIY, so it's zero cost to install. Also, if one or both "fail" the rides gets a little bouncier, which I actually don't mind. On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Whats the installation cost?For instance if the dealer part was $300 vs >

[MBZ] Terminology [was: Re: Benzin price Wuz: CLK55 needed]

2015-09-11 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 21:51:58 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: > >Sure hope you didn't run into any Hodags or Igarots, passing so > >close to Rhinelander... > > Definitely encountered hodags. Went right through downtown > Rhinelander both ways. Got chased by some

Re: [MBZ] The demise pf Pruis h*ters

2015-09-11 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Rick wrote: > "Smug" WOW - sooo preachy! I can't even decipher the point. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?

2015-09-11 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Fred wrote: > ...and now, instead of bowling merrily down the 'pike to Boston/Lynn, they > are off on a scenic ride to Michigan. The Magic Kingdom of USPS has me > baffled... > My shipment has gone from Providence to my local USPS and out for delivery yesterday and then it sez it is in Santa

Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?

2015-09-11 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Andrew, I'll bet your hourly wage is not zero when you are at work. Time off from work is, in my opinion, worth more per hour that time at work (that's why I'm not working overtime, unless I am). One can use the hourly salary number or a larger number, but that is the cost / hour for DIY work,

Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz?

2015-09-11 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Mao.What indeed?!The local, Lynn MA, people sorted it out for me. Hooray for the human touch! Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. > Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 10:46:22 -0500 > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wherz my Paatz? > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > CC: maontin@gmail.com >

Re: [MBZ] Turbines for power and heat [was Re: The demise pf Pruis h*ters]

2015-09-11 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I used to be assigned to USS LEWIS B. PULLER (FFG 23) which used two gas turbine engines for main propulsion. LM-2500 engines I think, same basic design as used in a DC-9 from foggy memory. 20,000 shaft horse power from each engine. Under normal operations, the Engineering Section began for

Re: [MBZ] Was, wherez my Paatz.

2015-09-11 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Max.The "Coal-scuttle" that holds the upper rubber mount is almost adrift.I had been contemplating a welding spree, now I don't know, as I have my hands full with the green one.Chowdah Q is almost upon us. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. > Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 13:07:58 -0400 > To: