Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On Monday, January 8, 2018 at 1:38:07 PM UTC-5, Wael Nasreddine wrote: > On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 11:23 AM tai...@gmx.com wrote: > > On 01/07/2018 12:14 PM, Wael M. Nasreddine wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 1:57 PM tai...@gmx.com wrote: > > > I did

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On Monday, January 8, 2018 at 1:55:05 PM UTC-5, awokd wrote: > On Mon, January 8, 2018 6:44 pm, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > > > I would have advised purchasing a lower power single slot fanless model > > for your primary video - as that is dual slot you will be wasting one of > > your PCI-e slots.

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On Monday, January 8, 2018 at 1:55:05 PM UTC-5, awokd wrote: > On Mon, January 8, 2018 6:44 pm, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > > > I would have advised purchasing a lower power single slot fanless model > > for your primary video - as that is dual slot you will be wasting one of > > your PCI-e slots.

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On Mon, January 8, 2018 6:44 pm, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > I would have advised purchasing a lower power single slot fanless model > for your primary video - as that is dual slot you will be wasting one of > your PCI-e slots. You can still use that 760 and it would work fine, I > just wouldn't buy

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On 01/08/2018 01:37 PM, Wael M. Nasreddine wrote: On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 11:23 AM taii...@gmx.com wrote: On 01/07/2018 12:14 PM, Wael M. Nasreddine wrote: On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 1:57 PM taii...@gmx.com wrote: I did build PCs before, but that was literarly

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 11:23 AM taii...@gmx.com wrote: > On 01/07/2018 12:14 PM, Wael M. Nasreddine wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 1:57 PM taii...@gmx.com wrote: > > I did build PCs before, but that was literarly a life time ago (early > > 2000's), and

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On 01/08/2018 11:34 AM, cooloutac wrote: Corsair has crap quality control, and evil engineers. EVGA on the other hand, is the best quality in PSU's I've ever seen, no matter the model. I've also had cheap psu's not work properly with a ups, but never the case with an evga psu. I hate

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

I also would never buy corsair ram. fk that company. My fav brand is G.Skill. And ram is also backwards compatible when comes to frequencies. And when using a lower frequency you can always lower timings, and still have it in case you upgrade to higher frequency board in future. --

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I also would never buy corsair ram. fk that company. My fav brand is G.Skill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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Just remembered the snowden documentary, when he would type the password into his laptop covering it and his head with a blanket. Maybe we should all do that? Then they really would need to catch the electrical or radiation frequencies lol. @Wael, Thats a sweet PSU you picked. EVGA doesn't

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

Just remembered the snowden documentary, when he would type the password into his laptop covering it and his head with a blanket. Maybe we should all do that? Then they really would need to catch the electrical or radiation frequencies lol. @Wael, Thats a sweet PSU you picked. EVGA doesn't

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

Just remembered the snowden documentary, when he would type the password into his laptop covering it and his head with a blanket. Maybe we should all do that? Then they really would need to catch the electrical or radiation frequencies lol. @Wael, Thats a sweet PSU you picked. EVGA

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On 01/07/2018 12:14 PM, Wael M. Nasreddine wrote: On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 1:57 PM taii...@gmx.com wrote: On 01/04/2018 01:23 PM, Wael M. Nasreddine wrote: I read a bit more on M/B connectors and https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153218=1 has one

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 1:57 PM taii...@gmx.com wrote: > On 01/04/2018 01:23 PM, Wael M. Nasreddine wrote: > > > I read a bit more on M/B connectors and > > > https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153218=1 > > has one EPS (8 pin) and one ATX (8 pin as well),

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On 01/04/2018 01:23 PM, Wael M. Nasreddine wrote: I read a bit more on M/B connectors and https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153218=1 has one EPS (8 pin) and one ATX (8 pin as well), so it's all good. Taiidan, what GPU do you use? The board has only a VGA, which is OK

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 3:16 PM awokd wrote: > On Fri, January 5, 2018 9:52 pm, Wael M. Nasreddine wrote: > > > I'm still missing a GPU as I need to run a couple of 1080p monitors, I > > see on ebay quite a bit (and quite cheap) AMD GPUs here[0], I haven't > > owned a Radeon

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On Fri, January 5, 2018 9:52 pm, Wael M. Nasreddine wrote: > I'm still missing a GPU as I need to run a couple of 1080p monitors, I > see on ebay quite a bit (and quite cheap) AMD GPUs here[0], I haven't > owned a Radeon before, any suggestions? I know a bit about Radeons at least. Suggest

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 11:52 AM cooloutac wrote: > EVGA is my fav brand for psu's. > Thanks for the tip, Here's my final list of parts: - Case: https://goo.gl/ethkyC - PSU: https://goo.gl/DAvHH8 - Motherboard: https://goo.gl/iG3Xia - CPU: https://goo.gl/HxjKPi - CPU

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On Fri, January 5, 2018 8:17 pm, cooloutac wrote: > But I guess to sum it up, if the government assassin is after you... > DON"T USE A KEYBOARD AT ALL> THEY ARE ALL BAD. Unless it's a model M. Those can serve a double purpose in both shielding from bullets and in beating the assassin with

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

hmm, they do say they can get readings from electrical sockets on a power grid. That sounds like it can be done remotely. nuts. They keep stressing "on older ps/2 keyboards" though which makes me wonder if its as practical for newer hardware. Newer cell phones emit more radiation then

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 1:23:37 PM UTC-5, Wael Nasreddine wrote: > I read a bit more on M/B connectors and > https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153218=1 > has one EPS (8 pin) and one ATX (8 pin as well), so it's all good. > > Taiidan, what GPU do you use? The

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 10:21:04 PM UTC-5, awokd wrote: > On Thu, January 4, 2018 2:34 am, Wael M. Nasreddine wrote: > > This is even better > > https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817153218 for $280 > > but it does not seem to come with 2 EPS (even though I see +12V1

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

I read a bit more on M/B connectors and https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153218=1 has one EPS (8 pin) and one ATX (8 pin as well), so it's all good. Taiidan, what GPU do you use? The board has only a VGA, which is OK for setting it up, but I want to run a 1080p widescreen

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On Thu, January 4, 2018 2:34 am, Wael M. Nasreddine wrote: > This is even better > https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817153218 for $280 > but it does not seem to come with 2 EPS (even though I see +12V1 and > +12V2. > I think one is EPS and another one is ATX. I read on

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

This is even better https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817153218 for $280 but it does not seem to come with 2 EPS (even though I see +12V1 and +12V2. I think one is EPS and another one is ATX. I read on coreboot that adapters can catch on fire, but not sure if that applies here

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 10:57 AM Wael M. Nasreddine < wael.nasredd...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 9:53 PM taii...@gmx.com wrote: > >> On 12/29/2017 10:28 PM, Wael M. Nasreddine wrote: >> >> > On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 3:06 PM taii...@gmx.com >>

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 9:53 PM taii...@gmx.com wrote: > On 12/29/2017 10:28 PM, Wael M. Nasreddine wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 3:06 PM taii...@gmx.com wrote: > > > >> Those dual 6386 are a good price I would get them if I was you, there > >> will

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On 12/29/2017 10:28 PM, Wael M. Nasreddine wrote: On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 3:06 PM taii...@gmx.com wrote: Those dual 6386 are a good price I would get them if I was you, there will always be plenty of buyers if you want to sell the second one. Ok got the CPU and the cooler.

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 3:06 PM taii...@gmx.com wrote: > Those dual 6386 are a good price I would get them if I was you, there > will always be plenty of buyers if you want to sell the second one. > Ok got the CPU and the cooler. I'm struggling to find a good case. There are

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 2:23 AM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > On 12/29/2017 12:01 PM, Sandy Harris wrote: >> That may be good advice, but there's another point of view. ... > What exactly are you trying to say here? That either one of us are idiots > like the man in your example?

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Those dual 6386 are a good price I would get them if I was you, there will always be plenty of buyers if you want to sell the second one. The KGPE-D16 almost always comes with the module so don't worry - btw MSRP is $415 for brand new KGPE-D16 so don't overpay. Yeah that cooler is the one to

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On Friday, 29 December 2017 19:23:01 CET taii...@gmx.com wrote: > I am sure the massive > markup over parts cost is worth it for a "tested working properly" > system right? Yes. Yes it is. -- Tom Zander Blog: https://zander.github.io Vlog: https://vimeo.com/channels/tomscryptochannel -- You

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 12:02 PM Wael M. Nasreddine < wael.nasredd...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 5:19 PM taii...@gmx.com wrote: > >> On 12/28/2017 05:43 PM, Wael M. Nasreddine wrote: >> >> > Thx for the tip, yea might not worth the $70 to buy used, I'll keep an

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 5:19 PM taii...@gmx.com wrote: > On 12/28/2017 05:43 PM, Wael M. Nasreddine wrote: > > > Thx for the tip, yea might not worth the $70 to buy used, I'll keep an > eye > > out for RAM/CPU on eBay. BTW on the manual of the board, it says that I > can > > go

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 1:23:10 PM UTC-5, tai...@gmx.com wrote: > On 12/29/2017 12:01 PM, Sandy Harris wrote: > > >> I would buy the RAM and CPU off of ebay, there is no reason to pay $80/ea > >> for that ram or $172 for a 6380 ($100 on ebay) you could get a 6386SE for > >> that price.

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On 12/29/2017 12:01 PM, Sandy Harris wrote: I would buy the RAM and CPU off of ebay, there is no reason to pay $80/ea for that ram or $172 for a 6380 ($100 on ebay) you could get a 6386SE for that price. (needs 140W cooler FYI) No reason to get the "protection plan" for anything either its a

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> I would buy the RAM and CPU off of ebay, there is no reason to pay $80/ea > for that ram or $172 for a 6380 ($100 on ebay) you could get a 6386SE for > that price. (needs 140W cooler FYI) No reason to get the "protection plan" > for anything either its a waste of money. That may be good advice,

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On 12/28/2017 05:43 PM, Wael M. Nasreddine wrote: Thx for the tip, yea might not worth the $70 to buy used, I'll keep an eye out for RAM/CPU on eBay. BTW on the manual of the board, it says that I can go with <4 or >4 RAM sticks but from what you said so far, it sounded like I need to fill all

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 7:02 PM taii...@gmx.com wrote: > On 12/27/2017 04:50 PM, Marco Silva wrote: > > > Pretty much any server hardware will work fine, personally I'm running a > Tyan S7050 motherboard with a couple of E5-2667 V2 CPU's and 64gb of > samsung ddr 3 ecc ram a

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 12:59:53 AM UTC-5, tai...@gmx.com wrote: > On 12/27/2017 11:05 PM, cooloutac wrote: > > > sorry for the spam I don't mean to make fun. > You only do that to yourself. > > You are immature and you are going to get someone killed if you keep > this up. > >

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Sorry man, I have to be a bit blunt here, while using google search is cool it gives you no real understanding of hardware, My cpu's are E5-2667 V2 these are ivy-bridge architecture 22NM 4GHZ 8 cores/16 threads. Not the ones you linked (E5-2667 - Sandy bridge - 32NM 6 cores/12 threads) for

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On 12/27/2017 11:05 PM, cooloutac wrote: sorry for the spam I don't mean to make fun. You only do that to yourself. You are immature and you are going to get someone killed if you keep this up. Basically I can't see it being easier to exploit the ps/2 then usb. For one how can you spoof

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 11:05:22 PM UTC-5, cooloutac wrote: > sorry for the spam I don't mean to make fun. Basically I can't see it being > easier to exploit the ps/2 then usb. For one how can you spoof a device? > And there is no other free ports, so can't have multiple devices.

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sorry for the spam I don't mean to make fun. Basically I can't see it being easier to exploit the ps/2 then usb. For one how can you spoof a device? And there is no other free ports, so can't have multiple devices. It seems to me you should be more worried about the actual keyboard you are

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

Just realized that you prefer to have mouse and kb on the same usb controller rather then using ps/2 port. Who do you think is tapping the "ground wire" of your keyboard? Is it the CIA? hehe... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users"

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 10:27:28 PM UTC-5, tai...@gmx.com wrote: > On 12/27/2017 09:40 PM, cooloutac wrote: > > > I would suggest, as advice I followed from qubes docs, is to just try to > > find a board that has a manual describing iommu/vt-d options as available. > > Preferably

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On 12/27/2017 09:40 PM, cooloutac wrote: I would suggest, as advice I followed from qubes docs, is to just try to find a board that has a manual describing iommu/vt-d options as available. Preferably manual stating its on by default. The best of all scenarios being a manual that shows a

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On 12/27/2017 04:50 PM, Marco Silva wrote: Pretty much any server hardware will work fine, personally I'm running a Tyan S7050 motherboard with a couple of E5-2667 V2 CPU's and 64gb of samsung ddr 3 ecc ram a couple of ssd's in (fake) raid 0 and 2 AMD gpu's. Unless you're pretty paranoid I

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

I currently have an ASRock Z170 Pro4 and an i7-6700k and I found it crashing from time to time for no particular reason, I might give the AMD Ryzen

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

Pretty much any server hardware will work fine, personally I'm running a Tyan S7050 motherboard with a couple of E5-2667 V2 CPU's and 64gb of samsung ddr 3 ecc ram a couple of ssd's in (fake) raid 0 and 2 AMD gpu's. Unless you're pretty paranoid I wouldn't go with really old and slow hardware.

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 8:48 AM taii...@gmx.com wrote: > I would buy the RAM and CPU off of ebay, there is no reason to pay > $80/ea for that ram or $172 for a 6380 ($100 on ebay) you could get a > 6386SE for that price. (needs 140W cooler FYI) No reason to get the > "protection

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 8:48 AM taii...@gmx.com wrote: > > I would buy the RAM and CPU off of ebay, there is no reason to pay > $80/ea for that ram or $172 for a 6380 ($100 on ebay) you could get a > 6386SE for that price. (needs 140W cooler FYI) No reason to get the >

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On 12/20/2017 08:24 PM, Wael Nasreddine wrote: On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 5:28:12 PM UTC-8, tai...@gmx.com wrote: On 12/08/2017 04:54 PM, Wael Nasreddine wrote: On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 12:07:56 AM UTC-8, tai...@gmx.com wrote: On 12/08/2017 02:43 AM, Yethal wrote: W dniu

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 5:28:12 PM UTC-8, tai...@gmx.com wrote: > On 12/08/2017 04:54 PM, Wael Nasreddine wrote: > > > On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 12:07:56 AM UTC-8, tai...@gmx.com wrote: > >> On 12/08/2017 02:43 AM, Yethal wrote: > >> > >>> W dniu czwartek, 7 grudnia 2017 21:23:18

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On 12/08/2017 04:54 PM, Wael Nasreddine wrote: On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 12:07:56 AM UTC-8, tai...@gmx.com wrote: On 12/08/2017 02:43 AM, Yethal wrote: W dniu czwartek, 7 grudnia 2017 21:23:18 UTC+1 użytkownik Wael Nasreddine napisał: Hello, I'm looking to build a new Desktop

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 12:07:56 AM UTC-8, tai...@gmx.com wrote: > On 12/08/2017 02:43 AM, Yethal wrote: > > > W dniu czwartek, 7 grudnia 2017 21:23:18 UTC+1 użytkownik Wael Nasreddine > > napisał: > >> Hello, > >> > >> I'm looking to build a new Desktop specifically for Qubes OS, so my

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

W dniu piątek, 8 grudnia 2017 09:07:56 UTC+1 użytkownik tai...@gmx.com napisał: > On 12/08/2017 02:43 AM, Yethal wrote: > > > W dniu czwartek, 7 grudnia 2017 21:23:18 UTC+1 użytkownik Wael Nasreddine > > napisał: > >> Hello, > >> > >> I'm looking to build a new Desktop specifically for Qubes OS,

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On 12/08/2017 03:07 AM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: Your only hope is to buy hardware without it such as the new enough to be useful Socket G34 and C32 AMD PRE-PSP Systems, boards KGPE-D16 and KCMA-D8 have libre firmware available and can play video games in a VM via IOMMU-GFX, they also have dual

Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

On 12/08/2017 02:43 AM, Yethal wrote: W dniu czwartek, 7 grudnia 2017 21:23:18 UTC+1 użytkownik Wael Nasreddine napisał: Hello, I'm looking to build a new Desktop specifically for Qubes OS, so my most important requirement is compatibility. I currently have 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4