Re: Most used eMail clients (was: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)))

2019-07-21 Thread Marek Mikus
devices might be over- or under-represented due to automatic image blocking. > Hello everybody, > on Samstag, 20. Juli 2019 at 09:57 Lüko Willms wrote > re Most used eMail clients (was: ...working on version 9 — will > essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-21 Thread Lüko Willms
Hello everybody, on Samstag, 20. Juli 2019 at 14:41 Gleason wrote re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) >> This makes me think that you don't know anything about HTML and CSS. > Yes, I do know what css i

Re: Most used eMail clients (was: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)))

2019-07-21 Thread Lüko Willms
Hello everybody, on Samstag, 20. Juli 2019 at 09:57 Lüko Willms wrote re Most used eMail clients (was: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))) addressing Mr. Gleason: > But you mention only one of the "major

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-21 Thread Gleason
Lüko, > Hello everybody, > on Samstag, 20. Juli 2019 at 14:48 Ethan J. Mings wrote > re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? > (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) > >> Moderator, can you please save us from this debate. It is

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-21 Thread Lüko Willms
Hello everybody, on Samstag, 20. Juli 2019 at 14:48 Ethan J. Mings wrote re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) > Moderator, can you please save us from this debate. It is really not > helpful. You are

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-21 Thread Gleason
Ira, > Hello Lüko, > Sunday, July 21, 2019, 8:34:03 AM, you wrote: > That's OK, but I also understand from your statement that you do > not understand the MIME structure of today's emails in the first place. > I'm a user, not an author. I don't care one tiny bit about rules or > structures

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-21 Thread Ira
Title: Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) Hello Lüko, Sunday, July 21, 2019, 8:34:03 AM, you wrote:  That's OK, but I also understand from your statement that you do not understand the MIME structure of today's

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-21 Thread Gleason
Lüko, > Hello everybody, > on Samstag, 20. Juli 2019 at 19:17 Ira wrote > re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? > (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) >> I'm not trying to understand the structure of emails, I just want to read >

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-21 Thread Gleason
Lüko, > Hello everybody, > on Samstag, 20. Juli 2019 at 19:17 Ira wrote > re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? > (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) >> I'm not trying to understand the structure of emails, I just want to read >>

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-21 Thread Lüko Willms
Hello everybody, on Samstag, 20. Juli 2019 at 19:17 Ira wrote re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) > I'm not trying to understand the structure of emails, I just want to read > them. That's OK, but I also unde

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-20 Thread Ira
Title: Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) Hello Lüko, Saturday, July 20, 2019, 12:41:09 AM, you wrote: TheBAt! should have two separate lists, selectable by a TAB, one of the real attachments, the other the nested

Re: Most used eMail clients (was: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)))

2019-07-20 Thread Gleason
. Juli 2019 at 19:54 Gleason wrote re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) > In this case, the important thing is that the system works, Fact is, that the quoting in TheBat! is broken, is utter nonsense and does not w

Re: Most used eMail clients (was: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)))

2019-07-20 Thread Gleason
Lüko, > Hello everybody, > on Freitag, 19. Juli 2019 at 19:54 Gleason wrote > re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? > (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) > >> In this case, the important thing is that the system works, > F

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-20 Thread Ethan J. Mings
July 20, 2019 Hello Gleason, Saturday, July 20, 2019, 8:41:11 AM, you wrote: > Stop trying to make The Bat unusable. Maybe the concerns can wrapped up and put in one email. Moderator, can you please save us from this debate. It is really not helpful. Jerry -- Ethan J. Mings President,

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-20 Thread Gleason
Lüko, > Hello everybody, > on Freitag, 19. Juli 2019 at 15:05 Gleason wrote > re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? > (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) > >>>> Thunderbird - Must assign bcc by identity. Quote bar doesn't

Most used eMail clients (was: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)))

2019-07-20 Thread Lüko Willms
Hello everybody, on Freitag, 19. Juli 2019 at 19:54 Gleason wrote re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) > In this case, the important thing is that the system works, Fact is, that the quoting in TheBat! is bro

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-20 Thread Luca via TBBETA
Lüko Willms: > Hello everybody, > > on Freitag, 12. Juli 2019 at 01:22 Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA > wrote > re The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt) > > > we are now working on version 9 > >essential changes like these for proper quoting in HTML-Mai

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-20 Thread Lüko Willms
Hello everybody, on Freitag, 19. Juli 2019 at 15:05 Gleason wrote re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) >>> Thunderbird - Must assign bcc by identity. Quote bar doesn't show on other >>> clients.

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-20 Thread Lüko Willms
Hello everybody, on Samstag, 20. Juli 2019 at 01:00 Ira wrote re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) stop showing emails without attachments as having a dozen or more attachments. I can live with messed up display

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-19 Thread Gleason
Ira, > Hello Gleason, > Friday, July 19, 2019, 2:42:09 PM, you wrote: Gleason>> HTML being a moving target. That might have something to do with why Gleason>> browsers require such frequent updates. Good enough reason to let people Gleason>> use MS libraries to view html email like The Bat

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-19 Thread Gleason
Ira, > Hello Gleason, > Friday, July 19, 2019, 2:42:09 PM, you wrote: Gleason>> HTML being a moving target. That might have something to do with why Gleason>> browsers require such frequent updates. Good enough reason to let people Gleason>> use MS libraries to view html email like The Bat

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-19 Thread Ira
Title: Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) Hello Gleason, Friday, July 19, 2019, 2:42:09 PM, you wrote: Gleason> HTML being a moving target.  That might have something to do with why Gleason> browsers r

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-19 Thread Gleason
Ira, > Hello Gleason, > Friday, July 19, 2019, 7:10:47 AM, you wrote: Gleason>> Qualcomm, which produced the (at one time widely used) Eudora email client, now Gleason>> defunct. They gave it to Mozilla where it has gone no where. > It died because someone thought Thunderbird with a Eudora

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-19 Thread Gleason
Lüko, > Hello everybody, > on Freitag, 19. Juli 2019 at 15:32 Gleason wrote > re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? > (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) > >>> I can't comment on the "best product" (I am not sat

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-19 Thread Ira
Title: Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) Hello Gleason, Friday, July 19, 2019, 7:10:47 AM, you wrote: Gleason> Qualcomm, which produced the (at one time widely used) Eudora email client, now Gleason> d

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-19 Thread Lüko Willms
Hello everybody, on Freitag, 19. Juli 2019 at 15:32 Gleason wrote re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) >> I can't comment on the "best product" (I am not satisfied, and I >> would have l

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-19 Thread Gleason
Lüko, > Hello everybody, > on Freitag, 19. Juli 2019 at 16:10 Gleason wrote > re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? > (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) > >>> this universally accepted quoting is what I don't want to loose.

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-19 Thread Lüko Willms
Hello everybody, on Freitag, 19. Juli 2019 at 16:10 Gleason wrote re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) >> this universally accepted quoting is what I don't want to loose. >> A quote is a QUOTE, not a

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-19 Thread Gleason
t 15:26 Gleason wrote > re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? > (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) > > this universally accepted quoting is what I don't want to loose. > A quote is a QUOTE, not a table. I guess I don't think it matters what it

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-19 Thread Gleason
Lüko, > Hello everybody, > on Montag, 15. Juli 2019 at 19:55 Gleason wrote > re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? > (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) > >> list [of email clients] I keep >> For instance here is my sh

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-19 Thread Gleason
Lüko, > Hello everybody, > on Montag, 15. Juli 2019 at 15:26 Gleason wrote > re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? > (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) > > this universally accepted quoting is what I don't want to loose. >

Re: One more on chosing FROM name and address (was: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)))=

2019-07-19 Thread Gleason
Lüko, > Hello everybody, > on Montag, 15. Juli 2019 at 22:49 Gleason wrote > re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? > (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) > > Yes, that allows you to tie a specific set of macros to a specific email

Re: Chosing the FROM name and address in a drop down menu (was: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)))

2019-07-19 Thread Gleason
Lüko, > Hello everybody, > on Montag, 15. Juli 2019 at 22:49 Gleason wrote > re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? > (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) > > Yes, that allows you to tie a specific set of macros to a specific email

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-19 Thread Gleason
Lüko, > Hello everybody, > on Dienstag, 16. Juli 2019 at 12:49 Gleason wrote > re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? > (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) > >> It seems to me that Rit Labs is an economic marvel. They have >>

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-19 Thread Lüko Willms
Hello everybody, on Montag, 15. Juli 2019 at 19:55 Gleason wrote re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) > list [of email clients] I keep > For instance here is my short list — with my comments regarding quotin

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-19 Thread Lüko Willms
Hello everybody, on Montag, 15. Juli 2019 at 15:26 Gleason wrote re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) this universally accepted quoting is what I don't want to loose. A quote is a QUOTE, not a table. You

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-19 Thread Gleason
Lüko, > Hello everybody, > on Montag, 15. Juli 2019 at 19:55 Gleason wrote > re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? > (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) > >> Thunderbird - Must assign bcc by identity. Quote bar doesn't show

One more on chosing FROM name and address (was: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)))=

2019-07-19 Thread Lüko Willms
Hello everybody, on Montag, 15. Juli 2019 at 22:49 Gleason wrote re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) Yes, that allows you to tie a specific set of macros to a specific email address. Better would be to be able

Chosing the FROM name and address in a drop down menu (was: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)))

2019-07-19 Thread Lüko Willms
Hello everybody, on Montag, 15. Juli 2019 at 22:49 Gleason wrote re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) Yes, that allows you to tie a specific set of macros to a specific email address. Better would be to be able

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-19 Thread Lüko Willms
Hello everybody, on Dienstag, 16. Juli 2019 at 12:49 Gleason wrote re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) > It seems to me that Rit Labs is an economic marvel. They have > produced the best product on the

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-19 Thread Lüko Willms
Hello everybody, on Montag, 15. Juli 2019 at 19:55 Gleason wrote re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) > Thunderbird - Must assign bcc by identity. Quote bar doesn't show on other > clients. Showing

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-16 Thread NetVicious
Title: Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) lunes, 15 jul. 2019 at 22:49, it seems you wrote: Yes, that allows you to tie a specific set of macros to a specific email address.  Better would be to be able to specify

Re[2]: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-16 Thread Paul Van Noord
7/16/2019 8:09 AM Hi The, On 7/16/2019 Gleason wrote: G> It seems to me that Rit Labs is an economic marvel. They have G> produced the best product on the market and remain viable in a niche G> that many others have found bankrupting. How true! - -- Paul 32bit TB 8.8.2.8 (BETA) Windows 7

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-16 Thread Gleason
Ira, > Hello Gleason, > Monday, July 15, 2019, 9:55:49 PM, you wrote: > You do embedded work. I bet you are paid well, and you can afford > the luxury of jumping on an airplane to fix somebody's problem. > Yes, I do embedded work. I own the company, so I can do what I want > and yes I could

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-16 Thread Gleason
MAU, > Hello Gleason, The Bat - poor support for identities >>> What do you need? >>> I use a lot of email aliases, and with macros in the templates I use >>> each aliases without any problem. I set one folder to receive all the >>> messages sent or received with one alias. And when I

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-16 Thread MAU
Hello Gleason, >>> The Bat - poor support for identities >> What do you need? >> I use a lot of email aliases, and with macros in the templates I use >> each aliases without any problem. I set one folder to receive all the >> messages sent or received with one alias. And when I create a new

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-16 Thread Ira
Title: Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) Hello Gleason, Monday, July 15, 2019, 9:55:49 PM, you wrote: You do embedded work.  I bet you are paid well, and you can afford the luxury of jumping on an airplane to fix

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-15 Thread Gleason
Ira, Hello Gleason, Monday, July 15, 2019, 10:55:48 AM, you wrote: Gleason> So give The Bat a fair chance. It is the best out there relatively. I do give it a fair chance and I always upgrade, but that doesn't mean it's not broken. Personally, not one piece of software I've written has

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-15 Thread Ira
Title: Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) Hello Gleason, Monday, July 15, 2019, 10:55:48 AM, you wrote: Gleason> So give The Bat a fair chance.  It is the best out there relatively. I do give it a fair chance an

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-15 Thread Gleason
NetVicious, > lunes, 15 jul. 2019 at 19:55, it seems you wrote: >> The Bat - poor support for identities > What do you need? > I use a lot of email aliases, and with macros in the templates I use > each aliases without any problem. I set one folder to receive all the > messages sent or

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-15 Thread NetVicious
lunes, 15 jul. 2019 at 19:55, it seems you wrote: > The Bat - poor support for identities What do you need? I use a lot of email aliases, and with macros in the templates I use each aliases without any problem. I set one folder to receive all the messages sent or received with one alias. And

Re[2]: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-15 Thread Paul Van Noord
7/15/2019 2:08 PM Hi Gleason, On 7/15/2019 The you wrote: G> So give The Bat a fair chance. It is the best out there relatively. Agreed! - -- Paul 32bit TB 8.8.2.8 (BETA) Windows 7 Pro 7600 No IMAP No OTFE 'Using TBBETA'

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-15 Thread Gleason
Ira, > Hello Maxim, > Monday, July 15, 2019, 9:04:21 AM, you wrote: Maxim>> We are still committed to compatibility with Windows XP > How many customers still use XP? I bet it's in the single digit > percent and you're better off leaving them behind. No one who has > any inkling of security

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-15 Thread Ira
Title: Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) Hello Maxim, Monday, July 15, 2019, 9:04:21 AM, you wrote: Maxim> We are still committed to compatibility with Windows XP How many customers still use XP? I bet i

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-15 Thread Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA
Hello Lüko, We are replacing TB2K/TBX/SpTBX toolbars and menus to DevExpress ribbon controls. Window elements like buttons, checkboxes, radiobuttons, status bars, etc. will have consistent look according to a currently selected theme provided by the DevExpress library. PGP internal

Re: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)

2019-07-15 Thread Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA
Hello Marck, Friday, July 12, 2019, 3:50:46 AM, you wrote: > Interesting! Delphi certainly has issues. We will try to make a small isolated piece of code that reproduces the issue and if we succeed will submit it to the developers of Delphi. We have submitted several bugs them already during

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-15 Thread Gleason
Lüko, Hello Gleason, hello everybody, on Montag, 15. Juli 2019 at 00:59 Gleason wrote re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) >> So stop talking nonsense about things which are beyond your >> horizon,

Re: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)

2019-07-15 Thread Gunivortus Goos
Hello Maxim , > So the 32-bit version of The Bat! did not have the bug with OpenPGP > signed messages. We have re-writted relevant code in The Bat! to > mitigate the compiler bug. However, we are now working on version 9 > and will unlikely publish a new beta or release soon. So I'd suggest > to

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-15 Thread Gleason
Lüko, > Hello Gleason, hello everybody, > on Montag, 15. Juli 2019 at 00:59 Gleason wrote > re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? > (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) > >>> So stop talking nonsense about things which are

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-15 Thread Lüko Willms
Hello everybody, on Montag, 15. Juli 2019 at 03:41 Thomas Fernandez wrote re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) I don't know about blockquotes but what annoys me tremendously is that some HTML messages are simply

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-15 Thread Lüko Willms
Hello Gleason, hello everybody, on Montag, 15. Juli 2019 at 00:59 Gleason wrote re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) >> So stop talking nonsense about things which are beyond your >> horizon, and stay

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Lüko, On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 19:05:14 +0200 GMT (14-Jul-19, 23:35 +0700 GMT), Lüko Willms wrote: Hello everybody, on Freitag, 12. Juli 2019 at 01:22 Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA wrote re The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt) > we are now working on version 9 essential changes l

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-14 Thread Gleason
Lüko, > Hello Gleaseon (? I can't find your signature), > on Sonntag, 14. Juli 2019 at 20:28 Gleason wrote > re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? > (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) > >> disagree >You simply do not under

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-14 Thread Lüko Willms
Hello Gleaseon (? I can't find your signature), on Sonntag, 14. Juli 2019 at 20:28 Gleason wrote re ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) > disagree You simply do not understand what this is about. From the hea

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-14 Thread Gleason
Lüko, > Hello everybody, > on Freitag, 12. Juli 2019 at 01:22 Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA > wrote > re The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt) > >> we are now working on version 9 >essential changes like these for proper quoting in HTML-Mails, more than > two y

Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-14 Thread Gleason
Lüko, Hello everybody, on Freitag, 12. Juli 2019 at 01:22 Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA wrote re The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt) > we are now working on version 9 essential changes like these for proper quoting in HTML-Mails, more than two years old: 1216: HTML viewer d

...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-07-14 Thread Lüko Willms
Hello everybody, on Freitag, 12. Juli 2019 at 01:22 Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA wrote re The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt) > we are now working on version 9 essential changes like these for proper quoting in HTML-Mails, more than two years old: 1216: HTML viewer does not ren

Re: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)

2019-07-13 Thread Lüko Willms
Hello everybody, on Freitag, 12. Juli 2019 at 19:25 Gleason wrote re The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt) > Is anybody saying that ms vs doesn't have issues? People need to > insist on using Delphi to keep ms honest if for no other reason. Agree. Cheers, Lüko Willms Fra

Re: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)

2019-07-12 Thread Gleason
Lüko, Hello everybody, on Freitag, 12. Juli 2019 at 02:50 Marck Pearlstone wrote re The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt) TBL>> We have figured out that the bug was in 64-bit Delphi compiler > ... > Interesting! Delphi certainly has issues. Nobody is perfect... Besi

Re: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)

2019-07-12 Thread Lüko Willms
Hello everybody, on Freitag, 12. Juli 2019 at 02:50 Marck Pearlstone wrote re The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt) TBL>> We have figured out that the bug was in 64-bit Delphi compiler > ... > Interesting! Delphi certainly has issues. Nobody is perfect... Besides, o

Re: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)

2019-07-12 Thread Ethan J. Mings
July 12, 2019 Hello Maxim, Thursday, July 11, 2019, 7:22:39 PM, you wrote: > We have figured out that the bug was in 64-bit Delphi compiler > which produced wrong code when a variable of ShortString type was > passed by value rather then by reference. See more on "value" vs > "reference" on >

Re: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)

2019-07-11 Thread Marck Pearlstone
On 12 July 2019 at 00:22 Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA wrote and made these points TBL> Tuesday, June 4, 2019, 11:06:32 PM, you wrote: >> 8.8.9 also does not let me send OpenPGP signed messages as described for >> 8.8.2.8 TBL> We have figured out that the bug was in 64-bit Delphi compiler ...

Re: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)

2019-07-11 Thread Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA
Hello Marck, Tuesday, June 4, 2019, 11:06:32 PM, you wrote: > 8.8.9 also does not let me send OpenPGP signed messages as described for > 8.8.2.8 We have figured out that the bug was in 64-bit Delphi compiler which produced wrong code when a variable of ShortString type was passed by value

Re: SmartSpace reading not working with some HTML messages (WAS: Re: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-06-09 Thread Lüko Willms
Hello MAU, and everybody else, on Samstag, 8. Juni 2019 at 19:06 MAU wrote re SmartSpace reading not working with some HTML messages (WAS: Re: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)) > SmartSpace reading does not work with *some* What is this "SmartSpace" in the first pla

Re: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)

2019-06-09 Thread tux.
U, no new license needed. 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

SmartSpace reading not working with some HTML messages (WAS: Re: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))

2019-06-08 Thread MAU
Hello Maxim, > Please try The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI files (3rd attempt): > > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_8-8-9.msi With this version of TB I've discovered that, as the Subject says, SmartSpace reading does not work with *some* HTML messages, it does not mark the

Re: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt) / HTML issues

2019-06-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maxim, On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 22:48:13 +0300 GMT (05-Jun-19, 2:48 +0700 GMT), Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA wrote: > Please try The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI files (3rd attempt): > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_8-8-9.msi > It should not require (I hope) the new registration key

Re: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)

2019-06-05 Thread Lüko Willms
Hello everybody, on Dienstag, 4. Juni 2019 at 21:48 Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA wrote re The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt) > Please try The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI files (3rd attempt): > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_32_8-8-9.msi > It should not require (I hope

Re: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)

2019-06-05 Thread MAU
Hello Maxim, > Please try The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI files (3rd attempt): > > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_8-8-9.msi > > It should not require (I hope) the new registration key I hope. > > Please let me know whether it works. New license not requested and, so far, running

Re: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)

2019-06-05 Thread Viktor Kabelac
Hello Maxim, Tuesday, June 4, 2019, 9:48:13 PM, you wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_32_8-8-9.msi Works fine here :) > It should not require (I hope) the new registration key I hope. It doesn't, works with the present key. Though the "About" dialog still shows the

The Bat! 8.8.9 MSI runs fine on wine, was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)

2019-06-04 Thread Joerg Schiermeier
Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_32_8-8-9.msi > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_8-8-9.msi New MSI files means also new tests against brand new wine v4.1 which was released just some days ago (February 4, 2019):

Re: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)

2019-06-04 Thread Richard Newman via TBBETA
Hello Maxim, Tuesday, June 4, 2019, 3:48:13 PM, you wrote: MMvT> Please try The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI files (3rd attempt): MMvT> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_8-8-9.msi Installed just fine this time. U -- Best regards, Richard

Re: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)

2019-06-04 Thread Marck Pearlstone
On 04 June 2019 at 20:48 Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA wrote and made these points TBL> Please try The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI files (3rd attempt): TBL> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_32_8-8-9.msi TBL> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_8-8-9.msi TBL> It

The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)

2019-06-04 Thread Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA
Please try The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI files (3rd attempt): https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_32_8-8-9.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_8-8-9.msi It should not require (I hope) the new registration key I hope. Please let me know whether it works.