Re: [Vo]:OT: The Mindless crap shoot of evolution

2007-12-20 Thread Edmund Storms
OrionWorks wrote: Thomas sez: All three of us, Stanford, the Cruncher and I believe that the web of life was divinely ordered. I have previously made the case that, if the earth sun system is viewed as a closed system, then the web of life is reversing the second law of thermodynamics.

Re: [Vo]:OT: The Mindless crap shoot of evolution

2007-12-20 Thread Edmund Storms
of information will increase. Right now, this communication is based on interaction with the cell structure within a few sensitive brains, a very unreliable method. ED On 12/20/07, Edmund Storms [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [Vo]:Re: Cold Fusion-Treated Palladium-Lithium-Boron Laser Fusion Target Factory

2007-12-30 Thread Edmund Storms
Jed, It depends on what you mean by relationship. Both hot and cold fusion produce the same end products, but in different ratios. The reactions in each case involve the fusion of deuterium. However, the two process are completely different in the mechanism that allows the fusion to occur.

Re: [Vo]:Re: Cold Fusion-Treated Palladium-Lithium-Boron Laser Fusion Target Factory

2007-12-31 Thread Edmund Storms
Fred, Hot fusion initiates the neutron producing path, cold fusion does not. This is the basic difference based an observation. The glow discharge does not produce neutrons. In addition, the voltages are too low to produce a hot fusion reaction. As for heat production, the glow discharge

Re: [Vo]:Re: Cold Fusion-Treated Palladium-Lithium-Boron Laser Fusion Target Factory

2007-12-31 Thread Edmund Storms
? In any case, this is not hot fusion. Hot fusion makes energetic neutrons. It does not use neutrons for subsequent reactions. Ed Jones Edmund Storms wrote: Fred, Hot fusion initiates the neutron producing path, cold fusion does not. This is the basic difference based an observation

Re: [Vo]:Re: Cold Fusion-Treated Palladium-Lithium-Boron Laser Fusion Target Factory

2007-12-31 Thread Edmund Storms
material, the NAE, which is not influenced by the boron. The situation is much more complex than you are taking into account. Ed Jones Beene wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: Does LENR glow discharge benefit significantly from boron content in the electrode? No, boron has no effect. Well

Re: [Vo]:Re: Cold Fusion-Treated Palladium-Lithium-Boron Laser Fusion Target Factory

2007-12-31 Thread Edmund Storms
Jones Beene wrote: Ed, Boron is deposited on the Pd surface in every P-F cell as the Pyrex dissolves. Nevertheless, no radioactivity is detected and heat is seldom produced. As for the Pd-B, I attempted to get heat both from a sample supplied by Miles and by a fresh sample supplied by

Re: [Vo]:Re: Cold Fusion-Treated Palladium-Lithium-Boron Laser Fusion Target Factory

2008-01-02 Thread Edmund Storms
than anything yet put forward to explain that variety of experiment. The SPAWAR experiment is indeed in that variety, but many others, including those of Ed Storms are not. Edmund Storms wrote: Jones Beene wrote: Ed, Boron is deposited on the Pd surface in every P-F cell as the Pyrex

Re: [Vo]:Re: Cold Fusion-Treated Palladium-Lithium-Boron Laser Fusion Target Factory

2008-01-02 Thread Edmund Storms
Jones, I have no idea what Miley believes. Take a look at the Larsen paper where they make a comparison to a selected set of the Miley work and tell me what you think. The fit is even less good to other data sets. The logic of the fit is even flawed. When a neutron is added to an element,

Re: [Vo]:Re: Cold Fusion-Treated Palladium-Lithium-Boron Laser Fusion Target Factory

2008-01-03 Thread Edmund Storms
Sorry Robin, I meant to type half-life. When I'm fasting, my mind has a mind of its own. I'm now back on food so that, hopefully, I might make more sense. Regards, Ed Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to Edmund Storms's message of Wed, 02 Jan 2008 12:10:44 -0700: Hi Ed, [snip] The dead

Re: [Vo]:Re: Cold Fusion-Treated Palladium-Lithium-Boron Laser Fusion Target Factory

2008-01-03 Thread Edmund Storms
Horace Heffner wrote: Sorry for the delay in responding. Time seems to be in short supply of late. On Jan 2, 2008, at 8:00 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: Jones, the Widom-Larsen theory is not only inconsistent with normal physics but it is also inconsistent with what has been observed

Re: [Vo]:Re: Cold Fusion-Treated Palladium-Lithium-Boron Laser Fusion Target Factory

2008-01-06 Thread Edmund Storms
Horace Heffner wrote: snip We can debate all day about what the arrangement of electrons looks like and how they might in theory behave. Nevertheless, if electrons can in fact gain the required 0.78 MeV from their surroundings to make a neutron, why is this process not detected?

Re: [Vo]:Nothing on

2008-01-10 Thread Edmund Storms
OrionWorks wrote: Jed sez: Regarding the Storms book listing in Wikipedia, the books are listed in alphabetical order by author, as they should be. I put them that way at one point. They have deleted Beaudette again, which is an atrocity. I forgot about Beaudette's book. Glad I read

Re: [Vo]:CNN.COM: Bush pushes Saudis for help with rising oil prices

2008-01-15 Thread Edmund Storms
Well Steven, if you had the oil, would you agree to take less money for your dwindling resource just because Bush asked? After all, this would mean you would also get less selling to China, a country that now has the money to pay your price. Or would you rather keep the price high to make more

Re: [Vo]:CNN.COM: Bush pushes Saudis for help with rising oil prices

2008-01-15 Thread Edmund Storms
we're all pretty much in agreement on the point that decades of cheap oil essentially killed off AE research for decades. Had AE research started twenty years ago and continued unabated we probably wouldn't be having this insane conversation now. On 1/15/08, Edmund Storms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: [Vo]:CNN.COM: Bush pushes Saudis for help with rising oil prices

2008-01-15 Thread Edmund Storms
Jed Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: Well Steven, if you had the oil, would you agree to take less money for your dwindling resource just because Bush asked? No, but throughout its history, OPEC has been careful to keep the price reasonably low, for two reasons: 1. To keep from

Re: [Vo]:Edmund Storms lecture video at YouTube

2008-01-17 Thread Edmund Storms
Thanks Steve, but Brian has already done this. Ed Steven Krivit wrote: I can get the whole 50min piece up on Google. Give me a day or two. At 11:26 AM 1/17/2008, you wrote: See: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ltZhii3g2HY This is pretty good. Ignoring the content, here are some comments

Re: [Vo]:Storms video and the observables

2008-01-18 Thread Edmund Storms
You are right, Frank. The size and the temperature do not affect the nuclear reaction directly. However, both affect the NAE. This environment is very important because it allows the nuclear process to occur. This feature of the reaction is generally overlooked by theory. Ed [EMAIL

Re: [Vo]:Edmund Storms video URL

2008-01-21 Thread Edmund Storms
I just tried looking at this (1-21-08, 8:30 MDT) and was told it s not available. Looks like the black forces have struck again. Ed Jed Rothwell wrote: The video is now available here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9026092151512597723 We hope it will not change again. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Ed Storm's and thermionic generators

2008-01-21 Thread Edmund Storms
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed Stoms mentions in the video that electrical production may be possible with thermal to electric generations. These would be of very low efficiency and not suitable for your cell phone. I believe that without the lack of a proper theory, he has missed the main

Re: [Vo]:I'm bored and writing to much, but what is fused salt Ed?

2008-01-22 Thread Edmund Storms
Fused salt is a mixture of potassium and lithium metals containing dissolved D. No water or Cl is present. D2 is produced at the anode, which is palladium. Ed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If that salt water. Is chlorine liberated? Does the cell produce yucky green sludge? Frank

Re: [Vo]:I'm bored and writing to much, but what is fused salt Ed?

2008-01-22 Thread Edmund Storms
Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to Edmund Storms's message of Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:23:44 -0700: Hi, [snip] Fused salt is a mixture of potassium and lithium metals containing dissolved D. No water or Cl is present. D2 is produced at the anode, which is palladium. So the salt is

Re: [Vo]:D2 at the anode, now I am really confused

2008-01-22 Thread Edmund Storms
Frank, The D does not carry a positive charge in this solution because the Li and K are more electropositive than is D. This is standard chemistry. Ed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fused salt is a mixture of potassium and lithium metals containing dissolved D. No water or Cl is present. D2 is

Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

2008-01-27 Thread Edmund Storms
R.C.Macaulay wrote: Harry Veeder quotes.. Al Gore The brunt of this climate crisis is going to be felt in the developing world. All your work... will be undone if you don't focus on this, Bono said. It is clear that those people who have least created this climate crisis... are the

Re: [Vo]:some experiments completed

2008-02-01 Thread Edmund Storms
Thanks for the offer, Frank. However, I have my hands full exploring the radiation produced by gas discharge. The beauty of this method is that the radiation gives a window into the process and mechanism. Once this understanding is achieved, it will be easy to predict what will work and what

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Colds and the Future

2008-02-04 Thread Edmund Storms
Jed, the cure is simple. When you feel a cold coming on, take a hot sauna or hot-tub. The virus does not like the increased body temperature this produces. Afterwards, bundle up and stay warm. Do not take aspirin. Repeat several times while taking lots of fluids to wash the reaction products

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Colds and the Future

2008-02-04 Thread Edmund Storms
OrionWorks wrote: Ed sez: Jed, the cure is simple. When you feel a cold coming on, take a hot sauna or hot-tub. The virus does not like the increased body temperature this produces. Afterwards, bundle up and stay warm. Do not take aspirin. Repeat several times while taking lots of fluids

Re: [Vo]:Creationism (was Re:OT: periodic table)

2008-02-04 Thread Edmund Storms
However, I suggest that the absence God does not mean the absence of a spiritual intelligence. This intelligence is presumed to have developed at the same time intelligence was developing in the material world. Religion confuses this intelligence with a God. In fact, it is simply another

Re: [Vo]:Creationism (was Re:OT: periodic table)

2008-02-04 Thread Edmund Storms
Harry Veeder wrote: On 4/2/2008 7:06 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: However, I suggest that the absence God does not mean the absence of a spiritual intelligence. This intelligence is presumed to have developed at the same time intelligence was developing in the material world. Religion confuses

Re: [Vo]:Notes regarding NAE construction and maintenance

2008-02-14 Thread Edmund Storms
Jones, A marked difference exists in cold fusion between what the experiments tell us and what people propose to happen based on their overactive imaginations. The paper you quote is pure speculation that has no basis in reality. As Horace has correctly noted, cracks are bad. Ed Jones

Re: [Vo]:Notes regarding NAE construction and maintenance

2008-02-14 Thread Edmund Storms
Jones, The treatment given the Pd is designed to achieve a high composition. In addition, the treatment would be expected to reduce crack formation. Unfortunately, it is too bad that the studies have not included a measurement of crack formation, especially in view of my work showing the

Re: [Vo]:Notes regarding NAE construction and maintenance

2008-02-14 Thread Edmund Storms
Jones Beene wrote: --- Horace AFAIK - *everyone* including FF, agrees that high loading is critical. No argument there. I am not arguing that the Italian theory is correct, far from it, and I agree with Ed that without proof, it is just a hollow theory --- but I can see his main point,

Re: [Vo]:[VO] : Old Energy New Money

2008-03-15 Thread Edmund Storms
It gets worse. The administration has not only made government bigger, they have made government part of the free enterprise system by printing money to keep large financial institutions from failing. This means that the lose will be shared by everyone who holds dollars. In other words,

Re: [Vo]:The Twinkle in Clarke's sk(eye)

2008-03-28 Thread Edmund Storms
Thanks Terry for making this story available. Although Sir Clark provides a cute tale, it resets on the hubris of the human belief that God cares what we do and has any more or less interest than for the billions of other aware life forms in the universe. In fact, the salvation of our life

Re: [Vo]:The Twinkle in Clarke's sk(eye)

2008-03-28 Thread Edmund Storms
that pokes fun without stirring up trouble. Whether this was Clarke's view is unknown. Ed Jed Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: Thanks Terry for making this story available. Although Sir Clark provides a cute tale, it resets on the hubris of the human belief that God cares what we do and has any

Re: [Vo]:LHC Lawsuit

2008-03-30 Thread Edmund Storms
Now isn't this ironic. The physics community spends a lot of money to understand aspects of nature that appear to have very little application to the real world. Then they are are stopped in their tracks when people carry their theories one step further and actually apply them to the real

Re: [Vo]:Which are the new results at BLP?

2008-04-09 Thread Edmund Storms
thomas malloy wrote: Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:58:32 -0400: Hi, [snip] This must be what everyone is talking about. The description of the power plant is rather nebulous. The section gets off on the wrong foot with this

Re: [Vo]:The (possible) oil peak rolls on

2008-04-18 Thread Edmund Storms
I'm confused. Perhaps someone on this list has the answer. Everyone who has discussed the issues here seems to agree to the following: 1. Increase in energy cost will drive up food and other commodity prices, which will reduce consumer spending. 2. Increased cost of personal transportation

Re: [Vo]:The (possible) oil peak rolls on

2008-04-18 Thread Edmund Storms
on an international standard, such as gold for instance, the stock market has lost over half its value since Bush took office. cough, cough ... actually the market has lost most of that real value since he started his second term... Jones Original Message From: Edmund Storms I'm confused

Re: [Vo]:The (possible) oil peak rolls on

2008-04-18 Thread Edmund Storms
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: I'm confused. Perhaps someone on this list has the answer. Everyone who has discussed the issues here seems to agree to the following: 1. Increase in energy cost will drive up food and other commodity prices, which will reduce consumer

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC A friend without health insurance

2008-04-21 Thread Edmund Storms
This is indeed a sad story, Jed, that is repeated many times each day. The basic problem is that the American people have accepted the idea that life in this country should be based mainly on the individual effort, with socialism being un-American. Liberalism, which tries to use the state to

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC A friend without health insurance

2008-04-21 Thread Edmund Storms
, and the cycle continues. On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Edmund Storms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is indeed a sad story, Jed, that is repeated many times each day. The basic problem is that the American people have accepted the idea that life in this country should be based mainly

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC A friend without health insurance

2008-04-21 Thread Edmund Storms
not start sooner rather than later? How much more suffering must occur before the conclusion becomes obvious? Ed Jeff Fink wrote: If you think health care is expensive now, just wait till it's free. Jeff -Original Message- From: Edmund Storms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday

Re: [Vo]:Blacklight Power: Sci-fi science rejected by UK-IPO

2008-05-12 Thread Edmund Storms
After reading the decision of the patent examiner, my impression is that the patent was rejected for good reason. The rejection argument is not that the theory is wrong but that Mills is trying to patent a theory and its application to calculating electron states. This would be like having a

Re: [Vo]:John Lear Interview

2008-05-19 Thread Edmund Storms
Any one who believes we did not land on the moon is simply delusional. Consequently, any opinion they have about any subject should be ignored. Of course, such an event is impossible to prove to such people without actually taking them to the moon. Normal people don't need such proof because

Re: [Vo]:Toyota Still Likes NiMH

2008-05-24 Thread Edmund Storms
Here we have an example of the basic policy difference between the US and other countries. The US, in the body of GM, proposes to make the perfect hybrid using batteries that are not yet available and may never work as expected. In addition, the car will not be available for two years. In

Re: [Vo]:4D reactions HPG - was :Arata device schematic

2008-05-27 Thread Edmund Storms
Jones, After reading the rather poor description on the website, I think this is only a way to provide chemical heat by converting UH6 to U3O8. No nuclear reaction is involved or possible. As they say, it is like a battery that provides energy for a limited time. I agree, this is a

Re: [Vo]:4D reactions HPG - was :Arata device schematic

2008-05-28 Thread Edmund Storms
Jones, If this is a nuclear reactor, the radiation would be too dangerous to make this practical. Even if it were buried deep enough to stop the radiation, it could not be safely dug up after 5 years. Besides, no sane person would want a nuclear reactor buried near them. The chemical

Re: [Vo]:4D reactions HPG - was :Arata device schematic

2008-05-28 Thread Edmund Storms
Robin, If this energy is produced by a nuclear reaction, then neutrons and gamma are produced. This requires significant shielding. In addition, the core would be too active to dig up in five years and haul away for reprocessing, at least right away. In addition, the electric conversion

Re: [Vo]:4D reactions HPG - was :Arata device schematic

2008-05-29 Thread Edmund Storms
Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to Edmund Storms's message of Wed, 28 May 2008 21:13:05 -0600: Hi Ed, Vortex is bouncing my posts again, could you forward this for me? [snip] Robin, If this energy is produced by a nuclear reaction, then neutrons and gamma are produced. It

[Fwd: Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion, Wet or Dry?]

2008-05-31 Thread Edmund Storms
Original Message Subject: Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion, Wet or Dry? Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 13:04:24 -0600 From: Edmund Storms [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Energy K. Systems To: Nick Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Before you get carried

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion, Wet or Dry?

2008-05-31 Thread Edmund Storms
Hoyt, where did you get this information? In all my reading, I have never seen where F-P added CS2 to their cell. Ed Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. wrote: Remember PonsFleishmann deliberately poisoned their electrolyte with carbon disulfide ( which unfortunately disables any platinum recombiner you may

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion, Wet or Dry?

2008-06-01 Thread Edmund Storms
Hi Horace, Thanks for remembering this heroic effort to make tritium using the F-P method. The intention was to create a NAE on the surface, not to improve loading, which this treatment did not do. We tried a lot of stupid ideas at a time when we didn't know what might work. A few did work,

Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention

2008-06-03 Thread Edmund Storms
At the risk of replowing the same field, of course intention and belief play a role at some level. For example, people can never win at the slots unless they have sufficient belief to actually put the coin into the machine and push the button. If the expected belief is not fulfilled, the

Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention

2008-06-03 Thread Edmund Storms
You raise an interesting point, Richard, by this example. People need encourage to believe they can do things that need to be done but are threatening or hard. Stories like David and Goliath, whether it is true or not, provide this encouragement. Missing, of course are the stories of the more

Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention

2008-06-03 Thread Edmund Storms
You are right, Steven, if belief were only required, the reality we find ourselves in would not work and it would not survive long enough for us to debate the issue. I suppose we could conclude that the Darwin process has eliminated this possibility. If this is true, then this process would

Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention

2008-06-03 Thread Edmund Storms
Hi Richard, I used religion as an example of my point because you used a metaphor based on religion in your example. I agree with you, the organized religions are nothing but power structures that are used to control behavior, which is needed of course. However, they offer very little

Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention

2008-06-03 Thread Edmund Storms
OrionWorks wrote: From Edmund Storms: Of course, there is another possibility that can be confused with getting something when you want it bad enough. Suppose, certain people are able to obtain information by mental telepathy. This ability would give them an advantage in getting their way

Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention

2008-06-03 Thread Edmund Storms
of the evidence or logic? Ed Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: You are right, Steven, if belief were only required, the reality we find ourselves in would not work and it would not survive long enough for us to debate the issue. I suppose we could conclude that the Darwin process

Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention

2008-06-04 Thread Edmund Storms
R C Macaulay wrote: Howdy Ed, This thread is becoming most interesting because it deals with a voyage toward a science of ideas where, once embarked upon that sea, there can be no return. Our decision then becomes that of selecting the posture one takes in the boat, I agree partially

Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention

2008-06-05 Thread Edmund Storms
thomas malloy wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: . Regardless of the difficulty in accepting the claims and observations, when thousands of people keep experiencing the same reproducible events, something real must be happening. I don't want this to be a discussion of Sai Baba. Nevertheless, his

Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention

2008-06-05 Thread Edmund Storms
. - Original Message From: Edmund Storms [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2008 7:30:26 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: OrionWorks wrote: Thanks for bringing Sai Baba back to my attention, Ed. How foolish

Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention

2008-06-06 Thread Edmund Storms
the entire book) on-line. Thanks, I ordered the book. Ed P. - Original Message From: Edmund Storms [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2008 9:23:11 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention Thanks for pointing this out, Philip. I have not read of Richard

Re: [Vo]:Gas flow to Arata cell NOT shut off

2008-06-06 Thread Edmund Storms
stopped to something like D+ absorption stops (or ends or sample stop absorbing D+). Stopped sounds transitive, indicating that someone stopped it. I was surprised to learn that absorption can stop so abruptly. I thought it would taper off gradually. However, Edmund Storms told me: Clean, finely

Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention

2008-06-07 Thread Edmund Storms
Let me answer your question, Richard. The issue was how does a person evaluate reality. Of course, different kinds of or different levels of reality exist. Therefore, different methods are required. Science uses objective evaluation of observation in the material world. The question was

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

2008-06-08 Thread Edmund Storms
Hi Jack, You are right. The oil gang has benefited from Iraq. However, this benefit is temporary, as I'm sure they must realize. Meanwhile, decisions have set in motion that will eventually lead to their demise as well as a situation that no one wants. For example, all kinds of oil saving

Re: [Vo]:Arata's results really are astounding

2008-06-08 Thread Edmund Storms
I agree with Jed, the data show some extra heat. However, I find this approach to be very sad. Arata had a chance to design the experiment so that the doubts and speculation could have been significantly reduced. He could have, without much extra effort, made the demonstration professional and

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

2008-06-08 Thread Edmund Storms
the fears of the Israeli government. Why can these issues be debated without emotion and the use of anti-Semitism? Ed Jed Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: The third possibility, which I favor, is that the Bush gang is so incompetent and so under the domination of Israel

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

2008-06-08 Thread Edmund Storms
controlling the world's oil flows. I must have been either mistaken or blind... These must have been Mossad agents in disguise... Silly me for not immediately seeing that... P. - Original Message From: Edmund Storms [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, June 8

Re: [Vo]:J.K. Rowling's graduation address to Harvard

2008-06-08 Thread Edmund Storms
Thanks Steven, that is indeed worth reading. Ed OrionWorks wrote: J.K. Rowling's graduation address to Harvard. Some of us may find it worth the time to read: http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2008/06.05/99-rowlingspeech.html http://tinyurl.com/63dvc3 Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

2008-06-08 Thread Edmund Storms
. - Original Message From: Edmund Storms [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, June 8, 2008 7:03:40 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds Well, Philip, you did see Bush holding hands with the Saudi king. He was trying to get the Saudi to pump more oil, which they refused to do

Re: [Vo]:Arata's results really are astounding

2008-06-08 Thread Edmund Storms
Good question. The significance of 1 degree depends on how much insulation is on the cell and how well the thermocouples were calibrated. If the cell is well insulated, 1 degree would represent very little extra power. Since we don't have any information about either, the significance is

Re: [Vo]:RE: Arata's results are really astounding

2008-06-09 Thread Edmund Storms
Good question, Steven. If this method is as good as claimed, it is the best and only method I believe that can result in a commercial device. Earlier use of palladium black by Arata showed similar behavior. Using this material, McKubre (SRI) replicated the claimed heat production and produced

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

2008-06-10 Thread Edmund Storms
Stephen, you are making a huge assumption when you say that past lives are not remembered. I suggest you read the books by Dr. Ian Stevenson (MD). Prof. Stevenson spent his career at the University of Virginia investigating reincarnation using a scientific approach. Naturally, his extensive

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

2008-06-10 Thread Edmund Storms
the physical reality. Why can't this improved approach be applied to this new reality? Ed Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: Stephen, you are making a huge assumption when you say that past lives are not remembered. True, it's a big one; it's based on the small amount

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

2008-06-10 Thread Edmund Storms
just imagination and self promotion. Nevertheless, I always hope there are a few people in the world who share my approach, but apparently not many. Ed Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: Stephen, you are making a huge assumption when you say that past lives are not remembered

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

2008-06-10 Thread Edmund Storms
You are certainly right Stephen, might does make right and land is always taken by force and retained the victor. We did it to the British, the Indians, and to the Mexicans while feeling very proud of ourselves. However, the situation with Israel is different. Here a higher moral principal is

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

2008-06-10 Thread Edmund Storms
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: You are certainly right Stephen, might does make right and land is always taken by force and retained the victor. Excuse me, I didn't say that, or didn't intend to. It's Thomas who elevated it to a principle of international law

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

2008-06-10 Thread Edmund Storms
Good idea, Steven, but I suggest a different approach from atheism. A good dose of real humility would work as well. If they would simply question whether a god as old and complex as the one that must exist in a universe as vast and old as ours would give a shit who occupies this speck of

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

2008-06-10 Thread Edmund Storms
- The Sleeping Prophet P.. - Original Message From: Edmund Storms [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:10:08 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds Stephen, you are making a huge assumption when you say that past lives are not remembered. I suggest you

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

2008-06-10 Thread Edmund Storms
point, theological and historical arguments simply won't work any more. How long must people wait until this reality becomes obvious? Ed Edmund Storms wrote: God's will. We are to believe that the Jews are more favored than the Philistines by God and that the moral teachings of Christ allow

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

2008-06-10 Thread Edmund Storms
passed and proposed, that condemn its behavior. Surely these facts must concern all Jews and Christians. At some point, theological and historical arguments simply won't work any more. How long must people wait until this reality becomes obvious? Ed Edmund Storms wrote: God's will. We

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

2008-06-11 Thread Edmund Storms
thomas malloy wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: thomas malloy wrote: The return of the Jews, the conquest of the land, it's subsequent prosperity, the hatred of the Arabs, their refusal to get over the indignity of the loss of that part of their conquered land, the Liberals support of Islam

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

2008-06-11 Thread Edmund Storms
Great story Terry, just what we need to lower the tension. If we need more proof that God is nothing but trouble, read the attached article. http://www.antiwar.com/avnery/?articleid=12963 Ed Terry Blanton wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:50 AM, OrionWorks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think

Re: [Vo]:Divine Intervention

2008-06-11 Thread Edmund Storms
Thanks for the story Steven. Such occurrence can give us hope. As for your questions? Ask yourself how you would communicate a message under such circumstances if you were God. Intervention is out of the question for reasons that have been debated for centuries. To me, the message to the

Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds

2008-06-11 Thread Edmund Storms
Harry Veeder wrote: On 11/6/2008 1:49 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: thomas malloy wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: thomas malloy wrote: The return of the Jews, the conquest of the land, it's subsequent prosperity, the hatred of the Arabs, their refusal to get over the indignity of the loss

Re: [Vo]:Divine Intervention

2008-06-11 Thread Edmund Storms
Stephen, why do you assume the child was any less supernatural than the rabbi? It seems to me we have only two possibilities. 1. Both the rabbi and the child were real and left the scene without being noticed. This seems unlikely since help was at hand. 2. Both the rabbi and the child were

Re: [Vo]:Tell us how you really feel Bob

2008-06-12 Thread Edmund Storms
Even when Park is talking about ordinary things, i.e. improved gas mileage, he is uninformed. Use of a small amount of hydrogen in the air entering an engine can improve the efficiency of combustion. The only issue is whether this increased efficiency is larger than the energy needed to make

Re: [Vo]:What are the best papers on cold fusion and their web links?

2008-06-13 Thread Edmund Storms
Jeff, I suggest you get a copy of my book The Science of Low Energy Nuclear Reaction available from World Scientific. I spent 6 months providing an answer to your question, which is not worth repeating. Ed Jeff Driscoll wrote: What are the best papers in cold fusion and what are the web

Re: [Vo]:Hokkaido Shimbun reports on Mizuno hydrocarbon experiments

2008-06-16 Thread Edmund Storms
Jones Beene wrote: --- Ed Excellent point. ... when interpreting the work of Arata, you need to separate what he claims from what is known about palladium The extra hydrogen is absorbed to the surface and is present as spill-over hydrogen attached to the ZrO2. The issue is, Does

[Vo]:irrational thinking

2008-06-20 Thread Edmund Storms
If you would like to understand the irrational thinking that drives the policy with respect to Iran and Israel, read this article. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2008/06/iran-neocons-sa.html The neocons once again are revealing their shallow thinking in an effort to protect

Re: [Vo]:PhysOrg discussion of Arata

2008-06-22 Thread Edmund Storms
Jed, these comments are a gold mine of issues that we need to address in our description of the experiment. This provides an incentive to expand the description. Ed Jed Rothwell wrote: With comments by the usual suspects: http://www.physorg.com/news131101595.html

Re: [Vo]:irrational thinking

2008-06-23 Thread Edmund Storms
Harry Veeder wrote: On 23/6/2008 8:14 AM, Taylor J. Smith wrote: Hi All, Now Mohamed ElBaradei follows in the footsteps of Admiral Fallon. Jack Smith Ed Storms wrote on 6-20-08: ``If you would like to understand the irrational thinking that drives the policy with respect to Iran and

Re: [Vo]:irrational thinking

2008-06-24 Thread Edmund Storms
attack on Natanz and other sites, would be to deter Iran's pursuit of a nuclear weapon. Senior retired U.S. military officers, contacted by EIR and asked to comment on the WINEP report, denounced it as extremely dangerous. Harry Veeder wrote: On 23/6/2008 12:05 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: Harry

Re: [Vo]:irrational thinking

2008-06-24 Thread Edmund Storms
Thanks for the offer, Richard, but it seems to me San Francisco does not have any adults to spare. :-) In any case, the adult population of Washington has been kept low thanks to Bush. Obama might import a few he knows. Ed R C Macaulay wrote: Howdy Ed, I have looked but I am having a

Re: [VO]: Biomass/ Ethanol economics

2008-06-25 Thread Edmund Storms
I suggest we have three separate issues here. 1. Cost of oil that is used to make gasoline. 2. Cost of gasoline. 3. How much oil is used in the US for transportation. Each of these issues have a different solution and consequence. As Terry pointed out and I have seen also, use of gasoline in

Re: [Vo]:U.S. Freezes Solar Energy Projects

2008-06-27 Thread Edmund Storms
We have seen this approach many times in the past. When this government is given two choices, it will always pick the least intelligent one. Hopefully, the next administration will reverse these decisions. Ed Horace Heffner wrote: I'm hopefully not given to apoplexy, but this just about did

Re: [Vo]:U.S. Freezes Solar Energy Projects

2008-06-27 Thread Edmund Storms
Every normal person is in favor of protecting the environment, Mike. Its the way it is done or the hypocrisy shown by the administration that is so stupid. For example, drilling in the coastal waters or in Alaska is all right even though the harm to the environment is obvious. But, covering

Re: [Vo]:Rothwell Storms describe Arata paper

2008-07-11 Thread Edmund Storms
A universal way of critiquing in science is recognized by most scientists, which was followed in this case. Arata was given a chance to respond, as he would be given by any journal when a paper critical of a person's work is submitted. We can not know why he did not respond and it does not

Re: [Vo]:new blog post

2008-07-22 Thread Edmund Storms
To anyone who is interested. In quoting me, as below, Steve once again uses a communication sent to him in private to make a point that is a distortion of the intent. I did not and would not discourage anyone from reporting all of the key facts of LENR research. My intent was to suggest

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