Gays and lesbians should stay in the closet.
Their choice. They should NOT be afraid to come out of the closet, nor
should they expect to be accepted.
In my own personal experience, those of my friends who came out of the
closet remained my friends, and were counseled by me in love to change
Let me offer another perspective on abortion, one that I held before joining
the church.
I myself was against abortion. However, I felt physically sick when I
thought of those children born to drug addicts and worse. Why should they
have to suffer? Abortion was a much better choice.
Of
I am way behind and the quiz has apparently been taken down for
whatever reason. Anyone care to give me an idea of what kind of
quiz this was?
Cousin Bill
You had to go to your local grocery store and buy boxes of grits. If you
couldn't find them, you got a 100% Yankee score. Depending
a running mate that would naturally upstage him from time to
time, Edwards would make a very attractive vice presidential
candidate. He certainly brought a fresh face and attitude to the
campaign. I only wish he'd gotten rolling earlier.
Ron
-Original Message-
From: Jon Spencer [mailto
Satan wants you to be discouraged, John. Take heart. Do something
positive, perhaps encouraging same-sex marriage by taking on a few more
wives.
Okay, maybe not. But do something to help the situation and you will feel
much better.
Jon
- Original Message -
From: John W. Redelfs
I hate to break this to you Jim, but they landed there 40 years ago.
Jon
- Original Message -
From: Jim Cobabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:39 PM
Subject: [ZION] Starship troopers
They've landed at Berkeley, CA.
This is all true, but I like Edward's pronouncements the best. In his
speech in Raleigh where he quit the campaign, Edwards asked all to join him
in his quest to end all poverty in the US during the next 4 years. And
everybody cheered their heads off!
All ya gots ta do is to have the right
Wimps.
Jon
- Original Message -
From: Jim Cobabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:46 AM
Subject: [ZION] Marriage resolution dropped
Deseret Morning News, Wednesday, March 10, 2004
Marriage resolution dropped
S. Jordan Council decides to skip
doesn't suggest that one is
a pushover.
Ron
-Original Message-
From: Jon Spencer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 2:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ZION] Foreign Leaders Support Kerry
You left out France, Germany, Iran, and Belgium. You
also
And I believe that as we grow in power and influence, that we will be feared
by others, just as in Nauvoo, and attacked. The more we humble ourselves
before the Lord, the better we will be able to resist these attacks, but
they will come.
Jon
Stacy Smith wrote:
I think that we will grow in
John W. Redelfs wrote:
But that is just anecdotal. --JWR
I don't know Ann, but I know her brother, Tom Scrotal. And he says that
she, indeed, is often just that.
Noj
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What in the world happened? I know that I typed Tom's name as Tom
Ecdotal, because my spell checker complained and I told it to leave it.
Hmmm - maybe I clicked the wrong button.
Oh well
Noj
- Original Message -
From: Jon Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent
If this were lds-poll, I would say that there was a third hell, something
about Mass. and one of their Senators.
Jon
- Original Message -
From: Gerald Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 7:26 AM
Subject: [ZION] Sons of Perdition
There are
I agree with Gramps. Get a rebuilt transmission installed, if you think
that the rest of the car will last another 100,000. The oil use could be
one of many things, some cheap, some not. You could be (among other
things):
- leaking oil around the valve cover
- leaking oil around the
helps!
Again, thanks!
Jon
- Original Message -
From: Grampa Bill in Savannah [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [ZION] This is I (sorry that I kin speekee the English)
Jon Spencer wrote:
Children: 2
David - 17 - leaves 4/14
Ah! NOW I remember you.
Noj
- Original Message -
From: Stephen Beecroft [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 2:56 PM
Subject: [ZION] My intro
Who am I?
Think back to high school. Remember the coolest kid there? He was
incredibly smart, but so
Yes, yes, Till once had a bugeye Austin Healy Sprite*. Absolute fun to
drive. The only drawbacks were the long gap between 2nd and 3rd gear, and
the absence of side windows (had curtains) when it was cold. Sure miss
that little blue Frog!
I had a 1953 Healy 100. It was a sports car of
I have a good book on becoming a Gospel Scholar. I'll try to find it.
Jon
- Original Message -
From: John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:31 PM
Subject: [ZION] How to Become a Gospel Scholar
Didn't one of the apostles give a talk
It seems that I may have been taken in by the popular press accounts of her,
without doing much critical thinking. On the other hand, since I don't know
much about her, I must avoid being taken in by negative stories.
But, to tell you the truth, I don't really know if it is important enough to
John W. Redelfs wrote:
Not only that, but according to Christ, almsgiving is to be done
anonymously. Mother Theresa was FAMOUS for her unselfishness. Just how
unselfish can giving be when it brings that kind of fame? --JWR
**
I think that we need to be careful about our view of MT. This
I had heard that two apostles will be killed in Jerusalem and be brought
back to life 3 1/2 years before the return of Christ, but have no scriptural
reference for this.
Jon
- Original Message -
From: John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 10,
John W. Redelfs wrote:
My wife hopes to retire in about three years. We hope to serve missions
for the Church if our health permits. In the meantime, I'll prepare for
my
mission with scripture and gospel study, and by continuing to run these
email lists.
So, whose going to take over the
Jon Spencer
Age(less): 55
Joined Church at age 45
Years until we go on a mission: 5
Years until our youngest goes on a mission: 5
Married to Nancy (boy, did I fool her!)
Children: 2
David - 17 - leaves 4/14/2004 for Fort Benning - Basic/AIT, then jump
school, then RIP (Ranger Indoctrination
Thrift:
We buy new cars at the end of the model year, for cash. No car payments.
We drive them until they die. My 1997 Chrysler Town and Country MiniVan
($28K new) has 175,000+ miles, with no major work (water pump, brakes, minor
things). I think that this is because a lot of the miles are put
You left out Chapel Hill, HC.
Jon
- Original Message -
From: John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 7:32 PM
Subject: [ZION] Commies and Pinkos
Ron Scott wrote:
That's fine. The politics can come later--as you gain more light and
I am not here. I'm over there.
Jon
-Original Message-
From: John W. Redelfs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 1:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ZION] Roll Call
Some former list members are returning. Hallelujah! I'm interested in
finding
But the Book of Mormon is still the Word of God, right? --JWR
The Iron Rod is the Word of God! (Like my voice??)
Jon
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to separate the wheat from the chafe.
Jon
- Original Message -
From: John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 11:09 PM
Subject: [ZION] Loving Mormon Bashers
Jon Spencer wrote:
It's hard not to love someone who loves the Lord, even
I had a great experience last Sunday at our Stake Conference. (It was, in
fact, both our last and our first Stake conference. Our last in the Raleigh
NC Stake, and our first in the new Apex NC Stake. But that is another
post.)
I saw a man go by. He was someone that I had home taught in the
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [ZION] Breaking the charter?
Jon Spencer wrote:
In the US, their actions are protected speech. While the actions of the
two
members in response to this provocation are understandable from an
emotional
point
Whether this happened or did not happen, it certainly could have and has in
other places. One example is that some missionaries, short on time, took
their laundry to a local cleaners (bad decision #1). The owner kept a pair
of garments and displayed them in the window (bad decision #2) and would
I ran across this quote from Leo Tolstoy the other day. Rather than saying
what I thought about it, I would like to put it out to the list and hear
what you might have to say.
It is within my power either to serve God or not to serve him.
Serving him, I add to my own good, and the good of the
Nowhere else, unless (R)nold changed his residence.
:-)
Jon
- Original Message -
From: Jim Cobabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 11:12 PM
Subject: [ZION] Schwarzenegger
Arnold becomes the new governor of California.
Where else could such a
Oink!
Jon
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION] Schwarzenegger
I'm actually quite pleased with this. I think Arnold is one of the more
intelligent and topical politicians that came out of the
and compassion in the face of hurt or offense.
Just a thought...
Noel
-Original Message-
From: Jon Spencer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 2:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ZION] Forgiveness of Serious Sins by Individual Members
NO! it is up to the Lord
I log in regularly (usually at least daily), and have done so for a few
years. Our stake was one of the first 12 to be the guinea pigs. It is
quite useful.
Jon
- Original Message -
From: Lew Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: zion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 12:48 AM
Newsflash -
Women with less than 18 year old children at home are not allowed to work at
the temple. I served in the Washington DC temple for several years, and
then in the Raleigh temple for two stints, until I couldn't handle working
at the temple (fully qualified in all roles other than the
No. It is definitely a cannot according to both our Temple President and
our Stake President.
Jon
- Original Message -
From: Valerie Nielsen Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION] Women working in the temple (was
- even if ya is wrong. Gus
Segar via Popeye
-- Jon Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And isn't it amazing to think that this entire thread all started out with
some chocolate! Chocolate makes everything better!
Jon
- Original Message -
From: Chet Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL
And isn't it amazing to think that this entire thread all started out with
some chocolate! Chocolate makes everything better!
Jon
- Original Message -
From: Chet Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 4:31 AM
Subject: Re: [ZION] Thought for the
Stacy Smith wrote:
Not for a diabetic.
What? You never heard of sucralose?
Jon
Thought for the Day:
A nice box of chocolate can provide your entire daily intake of calories
in
one place.
Isn't that handy?
Jon
Subject: RE: [ZION] Thought for the day
Works for me! Especially if it's Dove or Lindt chocolate!
By the way, Job...aren't you in North Carolina? If so, did you sustain
any
damage from Isabel?
Heidi
[Original Message]
From: Jon Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: zion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date
Stacy Smith wrote:
No, what is it? (sucralose)
Sucralose is the trade name for the stereoisomer of normal sucrose (table
sugar). It tastes the same as regular sugar, but is not processed by the
body. Your taste buds can't tell the difference (but perhaps your
pocketbook can!).
If I remember
Sucralose is sold under the brand name Splenda and is available next to
Equal in grocery stores. It is a one teaspoon for one teaspoon substitute
for table sugar. Note, however, that it is somewhat pricey. Some companies
have started to use it in products. For example, Diet Rite drinks are
Thought for the Day:
A nice box of chocolate can provide your entire daily intake of calories in
one place.
Isn't that handy?
Jon
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I read it through as a challenge, and was able to read it fairly quickly,
although not as quickly as I could have if the words were properly spelled.
Why? I think it is because, for me at least, I pattern match words. When
the words are misspelled, the pattern matching is more difficult.
it will not.
Jon
- Original Message -
From: Paul Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: [ZION] Concealed Carry
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 21:59:10 -0400 Jon Spencer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Every action has consequences, good or bad
Perhaps now you can begin to understand why you cannot teach (the Teachers)
if ye have not the Spirit!
Jon
- Original Message -
From: Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 8:22 AM
Subject: Re: [ZION] The Meaning of the Olive Press or the
George Cobabe wrote:
I am so used to having someone disagree that it just came naturally to me.
Yes, there are so few of us who are right all the time. I completely
understand.
Noj
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stay at Benning, he may end up at Bragg.
Jon
Maj Tom Merrill wrote:
Guilty as charged grin.
Jon Spencer wrote:
Hey! Are you indeed another NC resident? Fayetteville, perhaps?
Jon in Apex (the home of the Raleigh NC temple
:
Guilty as charged grin.
Jon Spencer wrote:
Hey! Are you indeed another NC resident? Fayetteville, perhaps?
Jon in Apex (the home of the Raleigh NC temple)
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Did the revelation allow the use of moldy bread as our Teachers tried to do
once when they wanted to use some bread left in the container we use to
bring the Sacrament trays back and forth to the school we meet in because
someone forgot to bring the bread? (A quick trip to my house solved this
John, from your history of posts, I agree that you are a lucky man, but it
is not because of where you live. It is because of the one big mistake your
wife made.
Jon
- Original Message -
From: John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003
Certainly, someone living in sin is not allowed to be baptized. We were
teaching a couple who were living together and had a child together. They
were from south of the border and there was some economic reason they had
not married. Once they married, they were allowed to be baptized (the very
Hey! Are you indeed another NC resident? Fayetteville, perhaps?
Jon in Apex (the home of the Raleigh NC temple)
- Original Message -
From: Maj Tom Merrill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION] Where Suicides Go
No. A
JWR wrote:
Occasionally we hear inactive members suggest they can be good people
without being active in the Church. They are confused. Whatever they
suppose, they are willfully breaking promises made to God.
Well, John, I suppose you are right. I don't know what the relationship is
between
Grampa Bill comments:
Found an excellent (if wordy) discussion on staying safe in a virus
infected world at
http://www.isalliance.org/resources/papers/ISAhomeuser.pdf . Many of
their suggestions are common semse, but it never hurts to make sure the
basics are covered before going off
I am not certain what you mean by defiling. Apparently, the Lord has seen
fit to do whatever is necessary to ensure that when an self-known unworthy
person enters the temple, then it is still OK to use it as a House of Our
Lord. I trust that he will continue to do so until he tells his servant,
The following has happened to both me and someone who works for me, as well
as the company hosting our store's web site (which is running Linux, and is
thus not susceptible to the viruses)
Email is being sent out using my email name, but I did not send it, nor did
it originate from my machine.
The good news is that my Norton/Symantec virus scanner is catching the new
viruses. The bad news is that I am getting so many, that my virus detection
screen is popping up faster than I can enter dates into my TroopMaster
software for Scouts! In my last batch, it caught about 13-15 infected
John -
This was a very interesting article. It is certainly true that there are
fallible men in our Church, and at all levels. I have my own stories of the
actions of these men.
However, this article was written as if all that was said is the truth.
When I am irked at someone in the Church, I
Chet Cox wrote:
What miracles seem miraculous to you?
I was reminded today during Gospel Doctrine of an event which happened to
me. Was it miraculous? I guess that depends upon your definition. Did it
impact my testimony? I'll let you guess.
I received my endowments on 1994 Sep 23. During
Dear John wrote:
(my comments inserted)
- Original Message -
From: John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION] Bankruptcy and LDS
Jim Cobabe wrote:
The liberal perspective examined...
He works off of a checklist.
Broken heart
Contrite Spirit
Ordinances completed
Not a member of silly email lists
Jon
Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
Luke 18:13.
Again, does God work off a checklist, or does He desire a broken heart
and
a contrite spirit?
John W. Redelfs wrote:
I agree that President Bush is either the most righteous man we have had
for President of the United States in modern times, or the biggest
hypocrite. Time will tell. If he is a hypocrite, he has snookered a lot
of really wonderful, good people. --JWR
Why, thanks for
I thought I might respond to this email, although it is old. Having been
gone a lot lately (50 mile hike, work, etc.), I have just gotten to this
place in my email.
Joseph Smith's First Vision did happen. It is a fact. How do I know? I
know from my own testimony. I know from the hundreds of
Stacy Smith wrote:
What are we supposed to do about temple workers' hands? Are we to ask if
they have washed them?
Just do what I said. Don't touch your face, and wash your hands before
sticking them into your mouth. By the way, from experience I can tell you
that this rule also applies to
I think that you are going to have to confess this email in your next temple
recommend interview.
Jon
- Original Message -
From: Paul Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION] hand shakes
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 04:11:31
Gramps, this is interesting. Of course, as you said, it is all speculation,
and I might add, wild speculation at that. What you describe sounds more
like Gadianton robbers than Saints. The Lord does not need a vast amount of
wealth to be turned over at some point, of this I am quite certain. I
Well ..
As I have been fully qualified for all ordinanaces and supervisory positions
in the Temple other than the Baptistry, all I can say is that this doctrine
is certainly not taught there. We don't teach it in Seminary. It is not
taught in Sunday School. It hasn't been taught in General
It seems to me that here are certain places where hand shaking or similar
actions are vital for our salvation!
Jon
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 12:40 PM
Subject: RE: [ZION] hand shakes
It seems to me that the tradition
Antibacterial soap is no more effective than regular soap. Here's the
facts:
1. The skin keeps bacteria and viruses out of the body.
2. Bacteria and especially viruses lurk in the oil on your hand.
3. Washing with water only does a poor job of removing these disgusting
oils!
4. Washing with
You probably can. Who is the manufacturer? I know that both Dell and
Compaq know the identity of the owner from the serial number (or in Dell's
case, the service number).
Jon
- Original Message -
From: Paul Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003
Hmmm ... exactly what does it mean for God to love all sinners (i.e.,
everyone living today, at a minimum), but he does not love them
unconditionally?
Either He does not love all of them because of some condition, or He loves
all of them. You can't have it both ways.
Of course, it may be true
Paul Osborne wrote:
Anyway, God loves me, and that's final.
And I love you too, Paul. That makes two!
Noj
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So long as you are not the next person to go up in that plane!
Jon
Steven Montgomery wrote:
Well, any landing you can walk away from is a good one.
--
Steven Montgomery
At 09:14 AM 5/31/2003, you wrote:
No bounce at this end. You message landed with a
solid thud. But, not to waste a
For anyone interested in the latest news in the development of fuel cell
technology, use the link below to subscribe to the Fuel Cell Connection
email newsletter.
http://lb.bcentral.com/ex/manage/subscriberprefs?customerid=9927
Jon
I can attest that, based upon my own personal experiences and confirmations
and outright manifestations of God, that God does indeed love me, a sinner.
Jon
- Original Message -
From: Gerald Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003
I guess the moral of the story is to ensure that your food storage is stored
in waterproof containers.
Jon
Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
It could have been be worse . . .
http://www.ucsc.edu/news_events/press_releases/text.asp?pid=355
May 27, 2003
Contact: Tim Stephens (831) 459-2495; [EMAIL
I, on the other hand, while watching the situation very carefully, have not
yet asked for a Prozac prescription. While I do not trust the government,
neither do I assume evil intent. I fear the activism of the judicial branch
far more than I fear the effects of the Patriot Act (interesting name,
Doesn't prophesy say that the Elders will save it? But prophesy also says
that the Elders will be killed so there will be a 7 to 1 ratio of the
righteous, women to men.
What's a mother (or father for that matter) to do?
Jon
- Original Message -
From: Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But Paul, come on now, be honest. how do you REALLY feel?
Noj
Paul Osborne wrote:
Gee-wizz, John. I thought we weren't suppose to talk about Iraq? Remember
the last flame war we had? Well, since we are about to go at it again I
will only make one little itty bitty comment which is that I
I concur, but we have to do more than get Saddam out of their. We have to
have a different form of government, not another dictator, even one who was
on our side.
Jon
Gerald Smith wrote:
Well, I hope we don't have to bomb Iraq. I hope we can get Saddam out of
there without having to injure a
I read this article last night. Wasn't it wonderful?! If you haven't yet
read it, get off this silly list and go read it right now.
Jon
- Original Message -
From: Stephen Beecroft [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 11:32 AM
Subject: [ZION]
Have youse guys read the article?
Jon
- Original Message -
From: George Cobabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION] Conditional divine love
Divine love is perfect, infinite, enduring, and universal. The full
flower of
John -
I will not write what initially came to my mind when I read your post. It
might be misunderstood! :-)
So, let me state that there are several reasons why a country might arm
itself. These include:
1. To act as a deterrent. In this case, the fact that they have them is
made known
John W. Redelfs wrote:
Perhaps it would be more accurate to say that we don't pray to Jesus
Christ. We pray to the Father in the name of Jesus Christ. Anyway, it
is
impossible to worship one member of the Godhead without worshipping all
three. They are that one. --JWR
So does this mean
And do you realize how boring it is to be a sealer? Saying all those words,
over and over again, and trying to pronounce those ferin names and all.
Now, working in Initiatories - THAT is a true privilege!
Jon
- Original Message -
From: Stephen Beecroft [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL
Ya know, now that you mention it, I don't think that there is anything wrong
with having a little talk with Christ. The gratitude I am certain we all
feel for Christ and what He did for us is well beyond anything that I can
express in words. And how about talking with your mother or father or
Well, then, if I am on an eternal progression, how come my current house is
smaller than my previous home (although the lack of a current mortgage is a
nice by-product!).
And does this mean that I've been PO'ed? :-)
Jon
Paul Osborne wrote:
Then, my friend, what is meant by the term eternal
Sorry, but your stating a specific definition does not make it so.
The prophets and the scriptures tell me something different than they tell
you.
Good thing we have a prophet to sort things out for us!
And I'll bet that GBH would not think that this specific discussion was high
on his list to
And just to add a little something, this is not what I believe we are taught
in the temple.
Jon
- Original Message -
From: Paul Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION] Subject to natural law
I agree with with
of armed conflict with Iraq applies in spades to Pakistan, why
aren't we
talking about the invasion of Pakistan?
Are we also to be held responsible for the deaths in China due to the
astonishing
record of the communist government there over the past half century?
Jon Spencer wrote
I am glad that you know what is in the hearts of all men. I myself have no
such gift.
Jon
John W. Redelfs wrote:
No, we are just modest and humble in spite of our reasons for being
arrogant. Wouldn't it be nice if our fellow Americans were the
same? Instead they indulge themselves in
I would, except I have not yet received a response from my subscription.
Jon
- Original Message -
From: John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 4:56 PM
Subject: [ZION] Notice from the Listowner
I have a special request. Will those of
No, it doesn't. You are creating doctrine that does not exist.
Apostasy alert! Apostasy alert! :-)
Jon
George the Babe wrote:
As God is, man may become by obeying the
laws that God (created) to (allow us to) become God.
Just a little change. :-) Then it becomes a truly correct
George the Babe wrote:
When God created this universe, and
this world, He created the Laws by which things work, which may be the
same
as what His Father created or they may be different. The bottom line is
that our Father is responsible for the Laws by which we live.
He did not create this
Wimps! You're all wimps!
Noj
- Original Message -
From: Val [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:35 AM
Subject: Re:[ZION] World's Tallest Buildings
I agree, John. On NPR this morning, I heard that the original plans
submitted this summer, were
Where were you people during the sixties, and have none of you ever gone to
a health food store? Look at a vegan brownie, and odds'll getcha that it
has carob rather than cocoa.
I know we're not supposed to be OF the world, but every once in a while you
can go out into it! :-)
Jon
P.S. I
No. He should have played golf, wherein you are actually fore-warned.
Jon
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From: Chet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 2:46 PM
Subject: RE: [ZION] Curiosity About Alma 1:21
Paul Osborne wrote:
Thomas Jefferson and
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