Re: [PEIRCE-L] APA Pacific Meeting Author Meets Critics: From the Axial Age to the Moral Revolution

2018-03-12 Thread Gary Richmond
t the only one in this forum who would like to hear more about Peirce's "semiotic animism" as you phrased it. Best, Gary R *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York* *718 482-5690 <(718)%20482

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Perfect Sign Revisited

2018-03-10 Thread Gary Richmond
quot; which will never *actually *be achieved, either. I must admit that I don't see what you're disagreeing with. Best, Gary R *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York* *718 482-5690 <(718)%2048

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Perfect Sign Revisited

2018-03-10 Thread Gary Richmond
EP 2:120; CP 1.211 Final causation does not determine in what particular way it is to be brought about, but only that the result shall have a certain *general characte**r**. *(emphasis added by me) In my view, the 'general character' of the evolution of the Cosmos through, shall we say, in

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Perfect Sign Revisited

2018-03-10 Thread Gary Richmond
Jon, list, You concluded: "Any comments? I am guessing that these topics must simply not be of much interest, or people are just very busy these days, since I find it hard to believe that everyone agrees with everything I have been posting. :-)" I would imagine that there are several on this lis

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Perfect Sign Revisited

2018-03-10 Thread Gary Richmond
es, etc. Upon this first, and in one sense this sole, rule of reason, that in order to learn you must desire to learn, and in so desiring not be satisfied with what you already incline to think, there follows one corollary which itself deserves to be inscribed upon every wall of the city of philo

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Fwd: Peirce's Last House: A Monument and Memorial

2018-03-08 Thread Gary Richmond
Terry, list, Terry asked: Is there an estimate of what those ongoing maintenance and repair costs [for the Peirce monument] might be? I haven't personally been involved in the project, but I'll look into it. Best, Gary *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Com

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Fwd: Peirce's Last House: A Monument and Memorial

2018-03-08 Thread Gary Richmond
ans for permanent upkeep with finally be devised. Best, Gary ​ *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York* *718 482-5690 <(718)%20482-5690>* On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 6:18 AM, Terry L Rankin wrote: > Thank

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Fwd: Peirce's Last House: A Monument and Memorial

2018-03-08 Thread Gary Richmond
re, where Peirce and his wife, Juliette, stayed on their arrival in Milford on April 28, 1887. Best, Gary *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York* *718 482-5690* On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 2:08 AM, Everett,

[PEIRCE-L] Fwd: Peirce's Last House: A Monument and Memorial

2018-03-07 Thread Gary Richmond
he committee is now asking interested members of the Peirce community to make generous contributions so that the monument may be erected soon. Please see the complete announcement below which includes a link to information on how you may contribute. Best, Gary Richmond Peirce's Last Hou

Re: Scientific inquiry does not involve matters "of vital importance," was, [PEIRCE-L] A footnote on reason

2018-03-06 Thread Gary Richmond
imes more potent a greenhouse gas than carbon. I think, Gene, that you would, however, find it difficult to find in Peirce very much support for your thesis. However, in our age especially, I think it's true that science, and especially technology, have been plundered and misused--just as the b

Re: Scientific inquiry does not involve matters "of vital importance," was, [PEIRCE-L] A footnote on reason

2018-03-03 Thread Gary Richmond
whatsoever, so I have no idea what this has to do with anything, let alone my last post. On the face of it, it isn't Peirce-related at all. Conspiracy? Really? World-spectator? Really? Certainly "conspiracy" sounds offensive and, as such, has no place on the list. Gary Richmo

Re: Scientific inquiry does not involve matters "of vital importance," was, [PEIRCE-L] A footnote on reason

2018-03-03 Thread Gary Richmond
tioned above, so that much of the population seems, well, almost brain-washed by the propaganda and "alternative facts" thrown at them every day such that they, for example, often vote against their own best interests. And all this too is, I believe, anticipated in a close reading o

Re: Scientific inquiry does not involve matters "of vital importance," was, [PEIRCE-L] A footnote on reason

2018-03-03 Thread Gary Richmond
d *that* lecture series and not "Evolutionary Love." Best, Gary R *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York* *718 482-5690* On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 1:25 PM, Stephen C. Rose wrote: > I think K

Re: Scientific inquiry does not involve matters "of vital importance," was, [PEIRCE-L] A footnote on reason

2018-03-03 Thread Gary Richmond
men (being yet the tiniest fraction of a percentage of the world population) and the corrupt institutions they've put in place and over which they have almost unlimited control. Best, Gary ​ *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College o

Re: Scientific inquiry does not involve matters "of vital importance," was, [PEIRCE-L] A footnote on reason

2018-03-03 Thread Gary Richmond
irit of Peirce, I would be delighted to have you prove me wrong. Then I'd have learned something I hadn't known and corrected an error in my thinking. Peirce called this approach 'Critical Commonsensism', and commented that his Pragmatism could be thought of as but a develop

Scientific inquiry does not involve matters "of vital importance," was, [PEIRCE-L] A footnote on reason

2018-03-02 Thread Gary Richmond
s without saying, I'd hope, that the positive results of scientific inquiry, for example, new technologies, may be applied to matters of vital importance (for example, in medicine, etc.) Best, Gary R Best, Gary R *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Stud

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Quasi-minds Revisited

2018-03-02 Thread Gary Richmond
sible that we are basing our recent analyses at least on Peirce's own model of triadic semiosis (which is hardly linear), whereas I find a certain "linearity" in, for example, your own model of input-mediation-output, your notion of "dynamic transformic nature" in a semiotic c

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Quasi-minds Revisited

2018-03-02 Thread Gary Richmond
particular I'm wondering what your understanding of the nature of the Immediate Object is. Best, Gary R ​ *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York* *718 482-5690 <(718)%20482-5690>* On Thu, Mar 1,

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Quasi-minds Revisited

2018-02-28 Thread Gary Richmond
n; just two Dynamic Objects directly and reciprocally affecting each other (cf. EP 2:411; 1907). But here we are speaking of Science, while I believe that Art is--even if rarely--able to perfectly represent its Object, one which however, it retrospectively, so to speak, creates. Best, Gar

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Quasi-minds Revisited

2018-02-28 Thread Gary Richmond
f when one considers Sign-action in the light of continuity.* Best, Gary R *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York* *718 482-5690* On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 5:08 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt wrote: > List: >

[PEIRCE-L] Extended Deadline: 2nd International Conference Semiosis in Communication: Differences and Similarities

2018-02-28 Thread Gary Richmond
*: Call_for_Papers <http://iass-ais.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Call_for_Papers.pdf> *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York* *718 482-5690* - PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on

Re: [PEIRCE-L] A Peircean linguistic view of the Second Amendment

2018-02-23 Thread Gary Richmond
hicago* (2010). In *Heller*, the Supreme Court resolved any remaining circuit splits <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_split> by ruling that the Second Amendment protects an individual right. Although the Second Amendment is the only Constitutional amendment with a prefatory clause, such

[PEIRCE-L] A Peircean linguistic view of the Second Amendment

2018-02-22 Thread Gary Richmond
meant only to demonstrate one way in which Peircean thought is being effectively employed in consideration of contemporary issues. Best, Gary R *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York* *718 482-5690 <(718

Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Quasi-mind

2018-02-21 Thread Gary Richmond
erested in moving from the abstract to the concrete stage of this inquiry, but only after we have settled a bit more firmly on what a Quasi-mind is; then on what a perfect Sign is; then if the two really are one. Once we have some agreement on *that* perhaps we can move on to a more concrete experi

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Quasi-mind

2018-02-19 Thread Gary Richmond
Jerry, list, Would you please explain why you posted this to the list, especially in this thread. I cannot see what pertinence it has to the discussion of quasi-minds? Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia

[PEIRCE-L] Quasi-mind

2018-02-16 Thread Gary Richmond
rmination of a quasi-mind. The quasi-mind is itself a sign, a determinable sign. [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York* *718 482-5690* - PEIRCE-L subscri

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Knowledge Bases in Inquiry, Learning, Reasoning

2018-02-16 Thread Gary Richmond
d ideas from "Pragmatism" in preparation for beginning a discussion. So, for now, especially as I'm occupied with other matters needing my attention, I'll drop off the list for at least the rest of the week, perhaps longer, and try to find time to re-read "Pragmatism."

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Knowledge Bases in Inquiry, Learning, Reasoning

2018-02-15 Thread Gary Richmond
y you've been arguing that it is a degenerate Sign. Now you've written "that what happens within the child is Sign-action, not dyadic action/reaction;" but are you saying that only if the child cried something like "Maman!" and not "Aie!" (which, again, I find t

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Knowledge Bases in Inquiry, Learning, Reasoning

2018-02-14 Thread Gary Richmond
nce again think that perhaps you are enthralled--at least in this hypothetical case--by semiotic abstraction, especially abstract terminology, and in doing so have disconnected your analysis from not only "the life of the sign," but from life more generally--from semiosis as it is lived

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Knowledge Bases in Inquiry, Learning, Reasoning

2018-02-13 Thread Gary Richmond
tive claims and suggestions (for example, that the child's scream may not be sign-action at all) which seem, well, strained. So, I'm going to leave it to others to offer constructive criticism. Meanwhile, I'll stand by my previous analyses. Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Knowledge Bases in Inquiry, Learning, Reasoning

2018-02-13 Thread Gary Richmond
in the future for the child; not leaving the child alone in the kitchen in the future for the mother. Again, this stark difference in habit-change strongly suggests to me two different signs, not one. Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *C

Self-control and self-criticism, was, Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Note from List Moderator : Frequency of Posting

2018-02-13 Thread Gary Richmond
categories. For Normative Science in general being the science of the laws of conformity of things to ends, esthetics considers those things whose ends are to embody qualities of feeling, ethics those things whose ends lie in action, and logic those things whose end is to represent something. Best

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Knowledge Bases in Inquiry, Learning, Reasoning

2018-02-13 Thread Gary Richmond
on my thought that Edwina may be using 'Form' in a different sense than Peirce such that in her sense it *would* connect more to 3ns than to 1ns. And of course I'd be especially eager to hear what Edwina thinks about that interpretation. Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Ri

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Knowledge Bases in Inquiry, Learning, Reasoning

2018-02-12 Thread Gary Richmond
meaning of 'Form', while there seems to me that for Peirce 'Form' *is *1ns, Edwina's analysis of Form seems to me more related to structure--the forms of the organization of related elements in a material system, rather than the forms of the elements themselves. In that physic

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Note from List Moderator : Frequency of Posting

2018-02-12 Thread Gary Richmond
ot;. . . the list, while not a community (rather a forum, a place) still requires a consideration of *all* who gather here." Best, Gary (writing as list moderator) [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the Cit

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Note from List Moderator: Frequency of posting

2018-02-11 Thread Gary Richmond
on (and not only for active contributors) . In short, such self-discipline could possibly benefit all of us: participants and lurkers. Best, Gary Richmond (writing as list moderator) [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia Co

Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Knowledge Bases in Inquiry, Learning, Reasoning

2018-02-10 Thread Gary Richmond
, I suggest reading (or rereading) NEM 4:292-300, not just EP 2:303-304, to see how he clearly aligned Form with 1ns, Matter with 2ns, and Entelechy with 3ns. I agree with Jon that Peirce aligns Form with 1ns and that it might be prudent to stick with his usage. Any thoughts? Bes

[PEIRCE-L] Re: Note from List Moderator: Frequency of posting

2018-02-10 Thread Gary Richmond
active participants and observers--when so many other philosophy and semiotics fora have floundered. Best, Gary R (writing, again, as list moderator) [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University of

[PEIRCE-L] Note from List Moderator: Frequency of posting

2018-02-10 Thread Gary Richmond
re being fewer postings--could be that such an approach might allow for more time for additional thoughtful reflection on the matter(s) under consideration (and not only for active contributors) . But, again, please post as you see fit! Best, Gary Richmond (writing as list moderator) [image:

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Representamen Discussion

2018-02-09 Thread Gary Richmond
nterpretant (so part of the child's Sign), but for the mother the cry is a Sign, a Rhematic Indexical Sinsign. And this final point again brings up for me the interesting idea of "Signs of SIgns," since the child's Interpretant Sign becomes a different Sign for her mother (in my v

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Representamen Discussion

2018-02-08 Thread Gary Richmond
represent other signs, etc. I'd like to hear from folk on the list how they might characterize the Signs and semiosis involved in this example. Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the Ci

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Representamen Discussion

2018-02-08 Thread Gary Richmond
eeing that word doesn't read English? Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York* *718 482-5690* On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 9:33 AM, Mary Libertin wrote: > Dan and Pei

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Representamen

2018-02-06 Thread Gary Richmond
st Now the vase is gone and I am left alone [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York* *718 482-5690* On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 8:59 AM, Gary Richmond wrote: > For Jon S's surv

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Representamen

2018-02-06 Thread Gary Richmond
ar to modern languages. [—] A rhe*me is defined as a sign which is represented in its signified interpretant as if it were a character or mark (or as being so).* [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University o

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Collateral Experience and Habits of Interpretation (was Immediate Objects and Phenomena)

2018-02-05 Thread Gary Richmond
some Bellucci to see if I can make more sense of it in the light of Stjernfelt's work and Gary f's and Jeff's analyses, also very intriguing. Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of t

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Collateral Experience and Habits of Interpretation (was Immediate Objects and Phenomena)

2018-02-04 Thread Gary Richmond
*meant *to say that your emphasis seems to be on latter (the external sign), mine on the internal (the cognitive sign that 'responds' to that external sign as immediate object. Sorry about that! Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Com

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Collateral Experience and Habits of Interpretation (was Immediate Objects and Phenomena)

2018-02-04 Thread Gary Richmond
n-cognitive one. I see you as emphasizing the external, existential sign, whereas I always tend to turn to the cognitive one (as at least springboard). In "a sign of a sign" your emphasis seems to me to be the former, mine the latter. Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *P

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Collateral Experience and Habits of Interpretation (was Immediate Objects and Phenomena)

2018-02-04 Thread Gary Richmond
be helpful. I think it might be easier to get a 'handle' on this question focusing on human semiosis (anyhow, I'm finding the 'bird' example 'tricky'). Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studi

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Collateral Experience and Habits of Interpretation (was Immediate Objects and Phenomena)

2018-02-04 Thread Gary Richmond
y in a flock of birds? OK, hazy thinking for now. But circling around this seems to be of potential value imo, at least for me. Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York* *718 4

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Collateral Experience and Habits of Interpretation (was Immediate Objects and Phenomena)

2018-02-04 Thread Gary Richmond
that e*very species of actual cognition is of the nature of a sign.* [—] Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York* *718 482-5690* On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 9:22 PM, Edwina Taborsk

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Immediate Objects and Phenomena (was Lowell Lecture 3.14)

2018-02-01 Thread Gary Richmond
I hope so. On the other hand, in certain matters (e.g., "the sign of a sign") I remain confused and uncertain. And for me the terminology remains a morass which I due soon to leave to others to try to sort out. Still, I think both you and I, Jon, always enter into a discussion such as this

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Immediate Objects and Phenomena (was Lowell Lecture 3.14)

2018-01-31 Thread Gary Richmond
, it *cannot *be a proposition. Yet obviously it is *embodied *as a Sinsign, as all Qualisigns (and Legisigns) *must *be, and a Sinsign *can *be a Dicisign. Does the statue, as an embodied Qualisign, turn out to be a Dicent Sinsign of a peculiar kind? If so, what are S and P in the particular prop

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Immediate Objects and Phenomena (was Lowell Lecture 3.14)

2018-01-31 Thread Gary Richmond
ism, and classification of sciences. In February I hope to introduce a topic in pragmatism that I've been drafting a message regarding for a while now. (I'll be reading responses to this post--if any--but this will be my last message for about a week at least.) Best, Gary R [image:

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Immediate Objects and Phenomena (was Lowell Lecture 3.14)

2018-01-29 Thread Gary Richmond
ow we learn" example, however, before I consider retracting them. Perhaps I'll discover that I have myself completely misunderstood Peirce's semeiotic terminology. Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardi

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Immediate Objects and Phenomena (was Lowell Lecture 3.14)

2018-01-29 Thread Gary Richmond
not replied to my response to his three quotation and comments (today he discussed only the final part of my message on techniques I employ, making thought experiments or observing my own semioses "on the fly"), so I have no idea why he coined the expression "Partial) signs,"

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Immediate Objects and Phenomena (was Lowell Lecture 3.14)

2018-01-29 Thread Gary Richmond
in this matter. But to reduce my view (you wrote, "what you have in mind") as a matter of some mere sense of mine of a "temporal immediacy," when in fact it is not at all my view at all, but part of my process, is for me at least, not presently very helpful as we explore this inter

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Immediate Objects and Phenomena (was Lowell Lecture 3.14)

2018-01-29 Thread Gary Richmond
tainly occurred in a fraction of a second, a 'moment' as Peirce analyzes the minimum of time. And, to boot, one can see in that moment several semiotic events: the qualisign which is the heat, the resultant pain (another qualisign), the immediate withdrawing of her hand (involving now 2ns),

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Immediate Objects and Phenomena (was Lowell Lecture 3.14)

2018-01-29 Thread Gary Richmond
on S, I too am likely to remain unconvinced by Bellucci "that, according to Peirce, only propositions have immediate objects" Best, Gary R ​ [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University of N

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Immediate Objects and Phenomena (was Lowell Lecture 3.14)

2018-01-28 Thread Gary Richmond
Then there are 3 divisions that relate to the Object. One according to *the form under which the Sign presents its Object. This is of course **the object **as the sign represents it**, i.e. the Immediate Object *(emphasis added by GR). Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Biosemiosis (was Lowell Lecture 3.12

2018-01-25 Thread Gary Richmond
ogies, etc. They most certainly need not be in conflict. Indeed, one would hope that they would mutually fecundate, even fructify each other. There is also the real possibility and practice of inter- and transdisciplinarity. Best, Gary R xx [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and C

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 3.14

2018-01-25 Thread Gary Richmond
change my thinking--which, again, is most certainly Peirce's (many passages to that effect)--about the omnipresence of all three categories in every phenomenon. Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia Coll

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 3.14

2018-01-25 Thread Gary Richmond
is so basic to Peirce's thinking throughout cenoscopic philosophy (but, perhaps, especially in phenomenology and logic as semiotics) that I wonder what prompted your question. Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 3.14

2018-01-25 Thread Gary Richmond
phenomenology and semiotic. Semiotic will most certainly employ the discoveries of phenomenology, but that's an entirely different matter. Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City Universi

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Biosemiosis (was Lowell Lecture 3.12

2018-01-24 Thread Gary Richmond
fficiently explored nor developed (with the possible exception of the third branch of the normative sciences, namely, logic as semiotic). Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City Universit

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 3.14

2018-01-23 Thread Gary Richmond
odern triadic semeiotic (or, as I like to think of it, trichotomic semeiotic, as involving the categories at almost every stage of his semeiotic analysis)? But, this is just a quick guess; and there may be more to these passages than I've suggested here involving, as you've suggested, phe

Re: Logic as semeiotic in relation to theoretical and practical psychology, was [PEIRCE-L] Biosemiosis (was Lowell Lecture 3.12

2018-01-22 Thread Gary Richmond
for Peirce, theoretical rhetoric (methodeutic, esp. in its including a pragmatistic theory of inquiry) is the final branch for which the other two prepare. Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City U

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Biosemiosis (was Lowell Lecture 3.12

2018-01-22 Thread Gary Richmond
sychic sciences--has come a very long way since Peirce's day and a new outline of idioscopy would no doubt look very different from Peirce's. But one would expect to find biosemiotics among the special sciences and most certainly not as a sub-division of the *normative science* of logic as s

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Biosemiosis (was Lowell Lecture 3.12

2018-01-22 Thread Gary Richmond
unknown and which having discovered these phenomena use the same observational methods to push the study of them further. Again, why is any of this controversial? Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College

Logic as semeiotic in relation to theoretical and practical psychology, was [PEIRCE-L] Biosemiosis (was Lowell Lecture 3.12

2018-01-22 Thread Gary Richmond
actice of applied psychology (but probably not vice versa). Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York* *718 482-5690* On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 12:21 PM, Stephen C. Rose wro

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Biosemiosis (was Lowell Lecture 3.12

2018-01-20 Thread Gary Richmond
interpretant.” This idea of "consisting" leads astray, in my opinion. Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York* *718 482-5690* On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 6:19 PM, w

Re: Aw: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Biosemiosis (was Lowell Lecture 3.12

2018-01-20 Thread Gary Richmond
s "a special relationship where each input has a single output." I don't see how this gels with the snippet of Peirce's above (quite a characteristic one, I believe). Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communic

[PEIRCE-L] Gatherings in Biosemiotics 2018.

2018-01-20 Thread Gary Richmond
List, I'm forwarding Kalevi Kull's announcement of Gatherings in Biosemiotics 2018 at Berkeley. Best, Gary R -- Forwarded message -- From: Kalevi Kull Date: Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 2:08 PM Subject: [biosemiotics:9256] GB 18 – Berkeley To: biosemiot...@lists.ut.ee Dear colleagues

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Biosemiosis (was Lowell Lecture 3.12

2018-01-20 Thread Gary Richmond
ies to Peirce's thinking. Has there been any work (articles, dissertations, etc.) comparing the thinking of the two? As I recall, John, some of your papers touch on this. But I'm wondering if there has been any more extensive work in this area? Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *G

Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 3.12

2018-01-19 Thread Gary Richmond
l Stamets describes ways trees and other plants have communication through fungal networks. They provide something like a neural net would for a brain. . . . Here is a video on fungi where Stamets reports some of his work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAw_Zzge49c Best, Gary R ​ [imag

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 3.12

2018-01-19 Thread Gary Richmond
by some specific 'external object'. It is that dynamic object which remains the same (e.g. the bird sound), while each immediate object so determined will be specific to some individual (person or animal). Best, Gary R . [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critic

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 3.12

2018-01-19 Thread Gary Richmond
gic |MS [R] 499(s) …*every sign* has *two* objects. It has that object which it represents itself to have, its Immediate Object, which has no other being than that of being represented to be, a mere Representative Being. . . (emphasis added) ( *Commens*) Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *G

Re: [PEIRCE-L] A Neglected Additament: Peirce on Logic, Cosmology, and the Reality of God

2018-01-18 Thread Gary Richmond
Jon, list, Congratulations, Jon. I am delighted to see your excellent essay published. I highly recommend it to list members. Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York

[PEIRCE-L] International Conference on Semiosis in Communication: Differences and Similarities

2018-01-16 Thread Gary Richmond
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Re: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 3.12

2018-01-15 Thread Gary Richmond
dering the varieties of interpretants which Peirce outlines as well as in consideration of such fields as biosemiotics. Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York* *718 4

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 3.11

2018-01-11 Thread Gary Richmond
ne can't look at the 'content' of these two sciences but see how far 'physical' and 'psychical' sciences have advanced since Peirce's time. But of course he predicted that that advance would necessarily have to be. Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Ga

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 3.11

2018-01-06 Thread Gary Richmond
ience, but also importantly to reflect on our experience in order to, come to better understandings of the nature of physical pain, to, for example, discover means to control it medically for not only humans, but for primates, other mammals, etc. Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gar

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 3.11

2018-01-05 Thread Gary Richmond
ke to discuss at some point along the way (perhaps even in a separate thread). Gf: ‘Experience’ itself is only a word, like other words: how then do you reach the point where you can judge for yourself whether experience is your only teacher or not? Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gar

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 3.6

2018-01-02 Thread Gary Richmond
a Taborsky, Auke van Breeman, and yourself. Best, Gary Richmond (writing as list moderator) [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York* *718 482-5690 <(718)%20482-5690>* On Mon,

[PEIRCE-L] Year end note by list moderato

2017-12-31 Thread Gary Richmond
to think. . .” CSP The corollary Peirce gives to this is, perhaps, even more famous. So to all a Happy New Year, one full of many good and fruitful things, including lively philosophical conversation in this forum! Best wishes, Gary Richmond (writing as list moderator) [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Nativity scenes

2017-12-30 Thread Gary Richmond
topian one, at least not in my view. In any event, and towards the new year, to paraphrase Robert Browning, our human reach should exceed our grasp. Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City Univers

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Nativity scenes

2017-12-30 Thread Gary Richmond
resent discussion). Truthfully, what I most want to say, perhaps as a possible motto for the new year, is something Tom Peters, business guru, once wrote: "Celebrate what you want to see more of." Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communicati

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Nativity scenes

2017-12-29 Thread Gary Richmond
healthy and productive 2018. Here's one of my favorite New Year's quotes. And now we welcome the new year. Full of things that have never been. Rainer Maria Rilke Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuard

Fwd: [PEIRCE-L] Nativity scenes

2017-12-28 Thread Gary Richmond
y making such generalizations as I just did and to which you ​ ​ properly reacted. Please accept my apology. I will make it public if you wish. Best always, Gary [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City Unive

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Nativity scenes

2017-12-28 Thread Gary Richmond
easoning." http://www.jfsowa.com/pubs/analog.htm. I see that Jon S has addressed this well, so I'll stop here. Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York* *718 4

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Nativity scenes

2017-12-28 Thread Gary Richmond
pear that many Christians, esp. of the evangelical fundamentalist stripe, have lost it (or at least suppress it). Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York* *718 482-5690

Re: Re: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 3.6

2017-12-23 Thread Gary Richmond
n why we should not say that a sign is a (triadic) relation, but that a *sign relation* is triadic — and its *correlates* should not be regarded as * parts*. I tend to strongly agree with his conclusion. Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking*

Re: Re: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 3.4

2017-12-15 Thread Gary Richmond
nger that in the new semiosis. I'll have to call it a day on list discussion as not one but two sets of nieces and their husbands are arriving as house guests in the next few hours and there's much to do before they arrive. Best, Gary [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosop

Re: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 3.4

2017-12-15 Thread Gary Richmond
re *made the object* of another--a new and different sign. Anyhow, that is my understanding of the interpretant in semiosis. Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York* *718 48

Re: Towards welcoming newcomers to Peirce, was, [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 3.4

2017-12-14 Thread Gary Richmond
it may, I think that there is a great deal in Peirce which is compatible with an attitude and philosophy of meliorism, that, for example, wherever it is up to us to put our shoulder to some task towards improving our human lot that we ought do that. Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gar

Towards welcoming newcomers to Peirce, was, [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 3.4

2017-12-12 Thread Gary Richmond
tures and, in my view, very useful commentary (even if one doesn't necessarily agree with all of it) presently remains my primary focus. Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University

Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 3.4

2017-12-12 Thread Gary Richmond
irce himself will change his mind characterizing some of his trichotomies, although the later changes always seem to me to be closer to the mark. For me--and I think for Peirce--tricategorial thinking represents a kind of heuristic. I certainly am not married to any trichotomies which I have posited. Best,

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 3.4

2017-12-12 Thread Gary Richmond
is most useful for her purposes ought be left up to the individual inquirer, that we ought not insist on what is right or wrong (seek consensus) for others in this matter. Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia Co

Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: Categories vs. Elements (was Lowell Lecture 2.14)

2017-12-08 Thread Gary Richmond
for that.) I would be very interested in why you think that anyone here is making such an effort toward consensus building on Peirce-L, and examples are always quite helpful. Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuard

Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: Categories vs. Elements (was Lowell Lecture 2.14)

2017-12-08 Thread Gary Richmond
on's proposal (although not the whole *tout court* as you and perhaps some others here apparently do, Mike), I have been personally stimulated to do some thinking I might otherwise not have done had he not made it, and I personally thank him for that. And I thank you also for your criticism, M

[PEIRCE-L] Robert Lane's new book on metaphysics

2017-12-07 Thread Gary Richmond
tween the mind and the external world." Best, Gary R [image: Gary Richmond] *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York* *718 482-5690* - PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "R

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