On 03 Dec 2013, at 19:29, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrot
I have already insist that God cannot be part of the explanation.
We agree on this.
Then I repeat my question, why add useless wheels within wheels that
explain nothing to
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
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On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
Measure is relative,
Yes, so your current measure of next finding yourself in a Drelb
I´m very interested in what you question. One of the wonders of life is how
a living being select relevant information from the environment for their
needs. I think that the aestetic sense is a heavy part of the activity of
the mind at the unconscious level. Form recognition is computation
On 03 Dec 2013, at 01:42, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Samiya Illias
samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote:
Good question, and one which is repeatedly asked by many within and
outside the faith. God, in His complete knowledge, knows each and
every soul and who is worthy of
On 04 Dec 2013, at 16:24, Telmo Menezes wrote:
Hi Alberto,
I agree with you that religion cannot be avoided in this sense.
Here's a funny example:
The Leipzig secular solstice celebration:
http://lesswrong.com/meetups/u6
Here's a video of some guy who's trying to become a priest for
On 04 Dec 2013, at 18:17, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Theory? I am betting neither Clarke the writer, nor Shermer, the
Atheist, has put a lot of intellectual efforts in their perspectives/
statements. Clarke was aiming at human perspective. Shermer was
trying to shoot down the attitudes of
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
Measure is relative,
Yes, so your current
On 04 Dec 2013, at 21:41, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/4/2013 1:38 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 03 Dec 2013, at 21:53, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/3/2013 10:09 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 02 Dec 2013, at 19:11, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/2/2013 1:55 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
wants to be worshiped, judges
On 04 Dec 2013, at 13:13, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
I repeat the cult of men to men is the most primitive and dangerous
religion. And RELIGION CAN NOT BE AVOIDED: you can not live without
a form of religion or religions like you can not live alone.
OK.
Bruno
On 04 Dec 2013, at 11:39, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
You talk like if I was believing in comp, or defending that comp is
true. I don't do that at all.
So you think that your belief in COMP is product of a computation,
At many levels. yes. if comp is assumed, that belief is generated by
On 05 Dec 2013, at 08:03, LizR wrote:
On 5 December 2013 19:59, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
Measure is relative, it doesn't drop while you approach death.
Probabilities add up to one... And by no cul de dac you should not
count where you 're dead.
In fact you don't approach
On 05 Dec 2013, at 09:53, Jason Resch wrote:
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
wrote:
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Quentin Anciaux
allco...@gmail.com wrote:
Measure is relative,
Yes, so your
On 5 December 2013 20:58, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/5 LizR lizj...@gmail.com
Well all the possibilities ever experienced by an human beings anywhere
in the multiverse add up to a vanishingly small measure compared to all the
parts of the multiverse where we didn't
On 5 December 2013 21:53, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote:
I´m very interested in what you question. One of the wonders of life is
how a living being select relevant information from the environment for
their needs. I think that the aestetic sense is a heavy part of the
activity
2013/12/5 LizR lizj...@gmail.com
On 5 December 2013 20:58, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/5 LizR lizj...@gmail.com
Well all the possibilities ever experienced by an human beings anywhere
in the multiverse add up to a vanishingly small measure compared to all the
parts of
Bertrand Russell's gross misunderstanding of Plato's theory of knowledge and
perception
In http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1EiQEwn1lc
Plato believed that truth is a conceptual form of knowledge, which
is a priori and so not obtained through the senses. Truth obtained
through the senses, Plato
As far as I remember, the entropy of the black hole is measured in absolute
terms. that is, taking the information from the most fundamental level, at
the Planck scale. But the entropy of a jar is relative to the jar broken
state, not absolute.
The example of a gas is more clear than the one of
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 8:12 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
The earliest reference I can find is 1783 by John Michell, he called
them dark stars, however it had very different properties from a modern
Black Hole. If I was far from one of Michell's Newtonian dark stars I could
not see it,
I think with black holes there's a physically natural coarse-graining
defined by the no-hair theorem which says that in classical general
relativity, the only distinguishing characteristics of black holes are
mass, charge and angular momentum, they bear no other traces of the
particular
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:25 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
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On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Quentin
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 05 Dec 2013, at 09:53, Jason Resch wrote:
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
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On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Quentin Anciaux
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:36 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/5 LizR lizj...@gmail.com
On 5 December 2013 20:58, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/5 LizR lizj...@gmail.com
Well all the possibilities ever experienced by an human beings anywhere
in the
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:25 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
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On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Quentin
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On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 05 Dec 2013, at 09:53, Jason Resch wrote:
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
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On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
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On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 05 Dec 2013, at 09:53, Jason Resch wrote:
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Quentin
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On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
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On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
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On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 05 Dec 2013, at 09:53, Jason Resch wrote:
On 05 Dec 2013, at 13:28, Roger Clough wrote:
Bertrand Russell's gross misunderstanding of Plato's theory of
knowledge and perception
In http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1EiQEwn1lc
Plato believed that truth is a conceptual form of knowledge, which
is a priori and so not obtained through the
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:25 AM, Quentin
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On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
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On 05 Dec 2013, at 17:09, Jason Resch wrote:
Everett said there is a non-denumerable number of copies, can you
not apply relative measure to these?
Really? Only in the case of classical QM, but did he pretend that to
be really the case? He would favor string theory on any literal
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On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Quentin
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2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 05 Dec 2013, at 17:09, Jason Resch wrote:
Everett said there is a non-denumerable number of copies, can you not
apply relative measure to these?
Really? Only in the case of classical QM, but did he pretend that
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
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2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Quentin
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On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
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On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:43 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
I repeat my question, why add useless wheels within wheels that explain
nothing to otherwise nice theories?
To take into account the discovery already made by arithmetical machine
that there is a transcendental truth
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.comwrote:
you can not live without a form of religion
Speak for yourself, I've been living without religion since i was 12.
John K Clark
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I believe in science.
That is my religion.
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:35 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.comwrote:
you can not live without a form of religion
Speak for yourself, I've been living without
A religion is based on dogma, science is not, hence science is not a
religion.
2013/12/5 Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com
I believe in science.
That is my religion.
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:35 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Alberto G.
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:42 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 5 December 2013 04:24, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
One of the most perverse tricks that the system played on us, in my
opinion, was in convincing people to accept that the state should raise the
kids. Sure,
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
A religion is based on dogma, science is not, hence science is not a
religion.
Some religions may be, that doesn't mean they all are, however.
How do you relate science to beliefs about the world and reality? Would
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 04 Dec 2013, at 16:24, Telmo Menezes wrote:
Hi Alberto,
I agree with you that religion cannot be avoided in this sense.
Here's a funny example:
The Leipzig secular solstice celebration:
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
A religion is based on dogma, science is not, hence science is not a
religion.
Some religions may be, that doesn't mean they all are, however.
Could you give an
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
A religion is based on dogma, science is not, hence science is not a
religion.
Some religions may be, that doesn't mean they all are, however.
How do you relate
On 05 Dec 2013, at 17:20, Jason Resch wrote:
So if you were to spend a day in the box with Schrodinger's cat
(each hour having a 50% chance of poisoning you), what would you
predict experience to be at the end of that day?
I like to answer this by this: At the end of the day I feel well
On 12/5/2013 1:43 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 04 Dec 2013, at 13:13, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
I repeat the cult of men to men is the most primitive and dangerous religion. And
RELIGION CAN NOT BE AVOIDED: you can not live without a form of religion or religions
like you can not live alone.
On 12/5/2013 12:43 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 03 Dec 2013, at 19:29, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be wrot
I have already insist that God cannot be part of the explanation. We
agree on this.
Then I repeat
On 12/5/2013 12:53 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
Relative to what? Does not one's measure of being alive drop in half with each trigger
pull,
Wanna borrow my gun? It's a lot more reliable than that. :-)
Brent
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Who can tell me that quantum immortality is not religion.
BTW it is not dogma that I believe in.
Richard
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On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Quentin Anciaux
On 12/5/2013 12:53 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
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mailto:allco...@gmail.com wrote:
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On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Quentin Anciaux
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:40 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/5/2013 12:53 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
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2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Quentin Anciaux
On 05 Dec 2013, at 17:13, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Quentin Anciaux
allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:25 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
On 12/5/2013 1:41 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
But what has happened is that science has taken away more and more of their
domain,
It was in the domain at the start. Science is only a lamp, not a truth. It is a way to
look at any domain.
And the way science looks at a domain is to make models
On 12/5/2013 2:15 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
In measure theory ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measure_(mathematics)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measure_%28mathematics%29 ) just because there are an
infinite number does not mean they are equal. Your measure each time you pull the
trigger in the
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 05 Dec 2013, at 17:20, Jason Resch wrote:
So if you were to spend a day in the box with Schrodinger's cat (each hour
having a 50% chance of poisoning you), what would you predict experience to
be at the end of that
On 12/5/2013 2:35 AM, LizR wrote:
On 5 December 2013 21:53, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com
mailto:agocor...@gmail.com wrote:
I´m very interested in what you question. One of the wonders of life is how
a living
being select relevant information from the environment for their
It isn't... QI is not worshipped, it is not a belief per se (you can
entertain the idea for an argument or a theory that's all) and QI could in
principle be proven false... A religion by being based on faith cannot.
Quentin
2013/12/5 Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com
Who can tell me that
On 12/5/2013 8:07 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
How did you get to our current state to begin with? If we keep following it backwards it
seems it leads to some primordial conscious state from which any future state might
emerge. If the branch in which your are shot by the quantum gun kills you,
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote:
I believe in science. That is my religion.
Yes, but only if the meaning of the sequential ASCII characters
r-e-l-i-g-i-o-n is anything you think is important. Some people are far
more interested in the sound of words
On 12/5/2013 8:09 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
No, because there is no absolute measure to decrease to begin with. The thing is, doing
dangerous thing *increase* likeliness to experience being crippled, that's what is more
likely.
So what was your measure before you were born?
Brent
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They are proven false. People leave religions all the time. Often for another
one.
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On 12/5/2013 11:05 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
The way I have for a time looked at is, is there are X instances that explain your
current experience. Some may be ordinary while others might be, say a dream. If in
your experience, you encounter something you are unlikely to survive ordinarily,
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote:
Who can tell me that quantum immortality is not religion.
I can. The defining characteristic of religious people is being seldom
correct but always certain, and so quantum immortality is not a religion
because I'm far
Well John not you nor I are believers in QI
but there seem to be plenty on this list.
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:51 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote:
Who can tell me that quantum immortality is not religion.
Quentin wrote:
*A religion is based on dogma, science is not, hence science is not a
religion.*
*(*addressed to Richard's:I believe in science.That is my religion.)
It is a questionable semantic situation what one can call an 'axiom', or
even
a math-groundrule (like: primes are primes ) what (I
John,
I learned my physics dogma at Harvard Grad School.
Before that I was a mechanical engineer.
Richard
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:14 PM, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote:
Quentin wrote:
*A religion is based on dogma, science is not, hence science is not a
religion.*
*(*addressed to
2013/12/5 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 12/5/2013 8:09 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
No, because there is no absolute measure to decrease to begin with. The
thing is, doing dangerous thing *increase* likeliness to experience being
crippled, that's what is more likely.
So what was your
2013/12/5 spudboy...@aol.com
They are proven false. People leave religions all the time. Often for
another one.
If they were proven false, what's your explanation of why the catholic
church still exists and has followers ? (or take your pick at any current
religion here on earth)
Quentin
On 12/5/2013 1:30 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/12/5 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net
On 12/5/2013 8:09 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
No, because there is no absolute measure to decrease to begin with. The
thing is,
doing dangerous thing *increase*
On 12/5/2013 1:33 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/12/5 spudboy...@aol.com mailto:spudboy...@aol.com
They are proven false. People leave religions all the time. Often for
another one.
If they were proven false, what's your explanation of why the catholic church still
exists and has
But despite fundamentalism, like what killed Islamic science,
it is here for good. (Any interpretation of the ambiguity will do)
Rich
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 5:12 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/5/2013 1:33 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/12/5 spudboy...@aol.com
They
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 03 Dec 2013, at 01:42, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com
wrote:
Good question, and one which is repeatedly asked by many within and
outside the faith. God, in
On 12/5/2013 8:53 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
I don't know how you count but for me the chance to be in a Dreb world after 24h is
1%^24 == infinitesimal. Each choice are independent...
That would be the probability that you went to Dreb independently each hour. So you died
the first hour,
On 6 December 2013 03:00, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 8:12 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
The earliest reference I can find is 1783 by John Michell, he called
them dark stars, however it had very different properties from a modern
Black Hole. If I was
Reality is not matter, it's Heidegger's dasein, which is Leibniz's monad
Materialists spend much effort on trying to show that reality is simply
physics. But the philosophy of Plato, Leibniz, Kant, and now Heidegger
shows that materialism and analytic philosophy is incomplete,
since it omits
On 6 December 2013 08:08, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
The hypothesis is that BHs have entropy the same way as everything else,
except that the microscopic degrees of freedom are in spacetime - which
isn't understood.
So are you saying that black holes have emergent entropy, and that
On 6 December 2013 14:15, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Reality is not matter, it's Heidegger's dasein, which is Leibniz's monad
Materialists spend much effort on trying to show that reality is simply
physics. But the philosophy of Plato, Leibniz, Kant, and now Heidegger
shows
On 12/5/2013 5:18 PM, LizR wrote:
On 6 December 2013 08:08, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
The hypothesis is that BHs have entropy the same way as everything else,
except that
the microscopic degrees of freedom are in spacetime - which isn't
On 6 December 2013 14:35, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
Yeah, that's Susskinds firewall idea. Just above the event horizon,
within a few Planck lengths, the strings corresponding to stuff that fell
in are spread over the surface and their degrees of freedom account for the
entropy.
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