Hi Richard Ruquist
There is not really any problem between free will and
pre-determinism as long as the men did what they wanted to do.
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Hi Stephen P. King
1) I don't understand your application of "infinite regress"
to the One. The One is something like an intellectual white hole
from which all comes, to invent a description.
2) As far as E = mc^2 goes, yes, theory can change,
but the underlying phenomena
Hi Stephen P. King
Infallibility isn't involved. The typical textbook
explanation for realism is, "if a tree falls in a
forest and nobody is there to hear it, would it
make a sound?"
A realist (such as me) would say "yes."
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Hi Stephen P. King
You could see it that way, but I only meant that 1p is subjective
(as I see or know it (here,now)) while 3p is objective (as they
see or know whatever, whenever).
Which raises Wittgenstein's question, "Can there be a
private language ?"
Roger Clough, rclo
Hi Stephen P. King
Good. That is another way to define objective (public).
Whereas 1p is personal and always private.
If 1p is communicated, it becomes 3p.
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Hi Stephen P. King
I believe that truth is independent of mind,
but we poor beggars cannot be sure of how
to state what that criterion is.
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Hi Stephen P. King
Plato in the end confessed that the best he
could offer was a likely story. I see no reason
to doubt his authority. Nor of the Bible,
for that matter.
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Hi Stephen P. King
I have no problem with that, although
I do think that there are some eternal truths
external to those minds.
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Hi Stephen P. King
In the end, we must accept a truth, so in the end,
all truth is pragmatic. We must cast our own vote.
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the brain per se,
but the life which lives in or is associated with the brain, and more
broadly with the whole body. While it still lives. I think, therefore I am.
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cally, according to some plan, and to have design.
I think that the One can do such things spontaneously or else
the One would be subservient to numbers.
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Hi Stephen P. King
Hmmm. Spacetime is xyzt and so extended,
1p is inextended and so not part of that.
Thus, contrary to you and Berkeley,
1p and the physical universe do not need
each other. xyzt does fine on its own.
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11/5/2012
"Forever is a long
Hi meekerdb
Love is a qualia and science cannot touch qualia.
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being good,
and although there is evil, God made the best possible world.
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Hi Stephen P. King
A tape recorder could prove your theory wrong.
Berkeley finally gave in and said that realism
was acceptable because God could see or hear it.
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Hi Stephen P. King
Yes, I had forgotten about many 1p.
And your dismissal of the possibility of a private language
is exactly what Witgenstein concluded.
Great minds must think alike.
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11/5/2012
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Hi Stephen P. King
No, they don't all have to had witnessed it, they can simply
be told about it. In court that is called "hearsay".
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Hi Stephen P. King
There you go again. That's the same question that einstein raised,
but in a positive format. He wondered why and how the universe was
so conducive to reason and methematics.
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Hi Stephen P. King
I don't think there's a better standard of truth.
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Hi Stephen P. King
Simple. All truths can probably only be known by the One who
it seems generated them (not sure).
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Hi Evgenii Rudnyi
I have heard it said that every year a certain mathematics
society gets together to celebrate the fact that not one of
their papers has proven to be useful.
Pragmatists on the other hand believe that only the useful is true.
Take your pick.
Roger Clough, rclo
the last moment narrowly squeezed out the electoral vote and
so won at least officially.
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do. Self-animation probably covers the whole list.
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re of the split is also historically the same.
There were liberals and conservatives in the
time of Caesar's senate. Pretty much like today.
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--
You receive
' skin or shell.
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Hi Russell Standish
According to Leibniz's idealistic metaphysics, nothing is causal,
things just appear to happen by cause. Their motions instead
occur according to a pre-established (a priori) harmony.
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Hi Stephen P. King
OK, let me rephrase the question. If a tree
falls in the forest with nobody to observe it, will
it end up on the ground ?
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Hi Stephen P. King
OK, you must be talking about physical evidence then.
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such thing as randomness,
each event is chosen by a supreme mind. The Bible
says as such, that not a hair of our heads can change
on its own.
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Hi Alberto G. Corona
I'm much indebted to you for bringing this
very important observation to my attention.
I need very badly to study the issue and
am starting right now.
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11/6/2012
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end.&quo
refutes Berkeley's
position that things exist because we perceive them.
And the Ten Commandments, if they exist, exist
independent of us. If evil is the diminishment of life
and good the enhancement of it, evil and good have real effects
and so are real, whether you believe in them or not.
Hi Bruno Marchal
How can you be in two places at once ?
At least in this universe ?
Prisoners in jails would love to be also free.
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(invisible).
The world effectively is as it appears to be.
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Hi Bruno Marchal
OK.
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Subject: Re: why IMHO
Hi Bruno Marchal
Thank you. Astute remarks.
Godel, not Nietszche, is the ghost-
actually, not a ghost, just incompleteness.
There's no remedy except acceptance.
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Hi Bruno Marchal
Thanks for your patience. Beautiful stuff,
it reads like Mozart sounds.
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he showed (very simply) that time is relative.
This was invented I think, entirely new, not deduced.
I suppose this might be construed as a form of nominalism,
and if so, realism can be expanded with intuition.
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11/6/2012
"Forever is a long time, espec
Stephen,
My new understanding of realism is that
according to it, what happens in this world is
not created by our minds, but created by a
higher power. It could have happened
without us.
That concerns events. Truth, according to
realism, is also mind-independent.
Roger Clough, rclo
Hi Bruno Marchal
My understanding is that qualia are subjective or 1-view,
while the realm of science is completely objective (3-view).
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Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy
By poet, I suspect that Bruno was attesting to
Nietzsche's ability to think in terms of metaphors
(such as Apollo and Dionysius in his "Genealogy of Morals." )
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Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy
So what ? I have no stomach for the revaluation
of all values and the other garbage Nietzsche
taught. If you are truly a platonist, you would
agree with me.
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11/6/2012
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Hi Stephen P. King
Even Berkeley had to admit that no forest, no whatever..
was foolishness and so said that in that case, God
observed it. Get real.
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Hi Stephen P. King
It's physical evidence if it can help convict a criminal in
a court of law.
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Hi Stephen P. King
How about those that are deaf, dumb and blind ?
They've never seen the moon for example.
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racts ?
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On 11
Hi Stephen P. King
So that by believing that God exists, He exists ?
Or believing that 2 + 2 = 5 makes it so ?
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r, influential philosophers agree
with Nietzsche in his
placing psychology and power over the use of human reason. "
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there's no need
for that. It is simply an assumption, and looking
out on the universe, I see no disharmony-- it
all works just fine.
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Hi Stephen P. King
Your criticism might be valid, but I never made the claim that Berkeley
is said to have made. Leibniz, possibly more like you,
would never have made such a claim. Leibniz believed that God
is purposeful (caused things to happen at least partially due
to end causes).
Roger
c church,
three centuries previously, which held reason and action over faith
(Luther held faith over everything). That was the breaking point
for the Reformation.
Luther in fact said that "Reason is the Devil's whore."
He later softened that view but just a little.
Roger Clough,
oning, the premises do not guarantee the conclusion. Abductive reasoning
can be understood as "inference to the best explanation".[6]
There has been renewed interest in the subject of abduction in the
fields of law,[7] computer science, and artificial intelligence research.[8] "
Roge
telligence, seemingly a desirable comp activity.
In other words, comp as a form of artificial intelligence.
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Hi Craig Weinberg
I don't really know, but one starts with one point (a number ?)
then two points to form a line, then rotation of that line to form
an angle and a plane as well. I don't see why comp can't do all of that.
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11/7/2012
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get an extended object in
spacetime.
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Subject: Re:
self-animation, metabolism, self-defense,
eating and mating.
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e obviously incompatible with those of Plato.
Note that also, later on in The Republic, Plato banned all poets, which
was a strong suit of Nietzche's, he was masterly with metaphors.
Overall, I doubt if Nietzsche and Plato would get along.
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Hi Stephen P. King
That sounds like Leibniz. Each monad contains the
views of all of the other monads in order to see
the whole, not from just one perspective.
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Hi Stephen P. King
The machine or program that made the calculation
doesn't have to be real, it's purely an a priori,
a given.
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Hi Stephen P. King
Sounds reasonable.
Being a conservative, however, I tend to adopt orthodox views
such as that of Leibniz (to my mind at least) and the Bible.
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government
sell the pot to improve its budget. It would help california's
bottom line.
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Hi Bruno Marchal
Cool. Shows you how little I know.
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Hi Hal Ruhl
What is pAP1 ?
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ne of trust, as a child trusts
its parents, its mother especially. Lutherans call that trust faith.
This lead K to conclude (and I agree) that truth is subjective (1p).
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Hi Stephen P. King
Glad to have a fellow enthusiast.
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that beats me.
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and
b) somehow unify and focus the perception into a
single point of view.
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There is no reality of conscious experience independent of the effects of
various vehicles of
content on subsequent action (and hence, of course, on memory).[1]' "
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t action (and hence, of course, on memory).[1]' "
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Hi Craig Weinberg
That was only a clue, not an explanation.
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Hi Hal Ruhl
Since life in the form of photosynthesis creates
order in the form of cell structure out of a
random (entropic) environment, life seems to
reverse time's arrow, and hence slow down the heat death
of the universe.
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11/8/2012
"Forever
nd
differences.
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Hi Hal,
Just look at the metaphors you use to see that your idea below is wrong.
You say that life hastens death.
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mber of mathematical points.
>From dust we come and to dust we shall return.
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Hi Stephen P. King
The prime numbers were somehow "calculated" without
access to the physical world. Euclids' geometry as well,
the natural numbers, etc.
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Hi Stephen P. King
Libertarians aren't weird.
They're essentially conservatives without a military.
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Hi Stephen P. King
Who are these entities and how can they exist
a priori as does 2+2=4 ?
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Hi Stephen P. King
You don't need to throw anything.
Parabolas are completely described mathematically.
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can create flight imperfections
and no measurements of their flights can be perfect.
I am also told that Heisenberg's uncertainty principle
does not depend on scale.
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Hi meekerdb
So how does Platonia's perfect necessary classes restrain or
contain this world of contingency ? Or does it ?
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choice B
\/
The chooser,
which must have
a fixed identity
Is there a chooser in comp ? Meaning a fixed identity ?
Does a Turing machine have a fixed identity to make such choices
(or do anything)?
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11/9/2012
"Fo
e principles of
propositional logic.
Necessitation Rule: If A is a theorem of K, then so is ?A.
Distribution Axiom: ?(A?B) ? (?A??B).
etc. etc. etc.
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--
You received thi
Hi Bruno Marchal
Perhaps no leap of faith is required to
go from completeness to incompleteness (consciousness),
if subject = 1p= the incomplete portion of a system
consciousness = subject + object
consciousness = the incomplete (me, 1p) + what remains (the object of
perception)
Roger
ntext -- not only in where
they are placed in a text but how they arose from culture.
Language is culture.
And in mandarin, three characters placed together might not
have anything to do with literal meaning. For example, the
characters for
I touch flowers in vase
can mean
Final touch
before you use them.
In other words, you need a fixed, conscious observer.
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Hi Bruno
1) Do you have any example snippets from anybody's comp program?
Love to see them.
2) How do you know that such an output can imitate a human mental process ?
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Hi Hal Ruhl
1) OK, I was thinking only about the living entity.
Even so, the storage of energy by its body
ought to delay degeneration by its lifetime,
not increase the rate of decay.
2) As to randomness of the environment, you seem to
know more about that than I do.
Roger Clough, rclo
Hi Hal Ruhl
Talk to Dawkins. The purpose of the gene is
to create more genes. So the purpose of
life (at a minimum) is to create more life.
You may notice that earth was once lifeless
but its surface become alive with plants,
fishes and the other stuff from Genesis 1.
Roger Clough, rclo
Hi Hal Ruhl
Sorry, I can not respond as you clipped off my previous post
containing said metaphors.
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sometimes
sickness and sorrow. Note that God is the author of the
sorrows.
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n the universe-- but from his own perspective.
3) Leibniz says that the monads, through their appetities and
perceptions, are "laden with the past and pregnant with the future."
Memory and some foresight or sense of the future.
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11/9/2012
"Fo
Hi Stephen P. King
The only two necessary requirements to be a conservative
are that you are fiscally conservative and are
ready to defend your country. Aggressive warfare is out.
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Hi Russell Standish
I left out the part that the perfect harmony is
only possible in Platonia, but when performed
and/or listened to on earth by people with
somehat muddled or defective senses (us),
will contain distortions and dissonances.
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)
is that the objects are directed from a
timeless, spaceless realm (the mind of the One,
not my mind, obeying necessary logic) but are
actually carried out in the real, imperfect. contingent world.
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Hi Hal Ruhl
The most important feature of a theory is that it is
worthless unless you can communicate it to the world.
Maybe I'm wrong. I can't understand your theory,
perhaps others can.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
11/9/2012
"Forever is a long time, especial
Hi Jason Resch
My apologies if I step on toes here, I'm just relying
on experience, but avoiding answering questions,
together with changing the subject, seem to be the
hallmarks of liberalism.
It's uncanny.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
11/9/2012
"Forever is a long t
Hi Stephen P. King
In idealism, physics is conceptual, so things must
happen as they're supposed to.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
11/9/2012
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Hi Stephen P. King
Get a box of crackers with the crackers all lined perfectly up inside.
That's Platonia.
Now invert the box and let the crackers fall, scattering on the
floor and some even breaking. That's our contingent world.
Nobody knows why, but that's the way time works.
Hi Stephen P. King
Contingent ordering is what happens to perfection, given time.
Because of entropy.
But nobody knows why.
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11/9/2012
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