On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 11:07 PM, John Mikes wrote:
> Telmo wrote:
>
> I agree. But sometimes we're lazy.
> My worry is always the same: the energy budget necessary to drill the
> holes and maintain the infrastructure compared to the yield. I'm not
> saying this isn't a good idea, just that this a
Telmo wrote:
*I agree. But sometimes we're lazy.My worry is always the same: the energy
budget necessary to drill theholes and maintain the infrastructure compared
to the yield. I'm notsaying this isn't a good idea, just that this analysis
in necessary tomake it convincing. I would be glad t
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 11:41 PM, John Mikes wrote:
> Dear Telmo, oil wells went down deeper than previously estimated as
> feasible. Techniques are evolving.
> If 2, 0r 5 pipes are inadequate in transport capacity, use more. Ask the
> engineers - I also claim ignorance.
> the geological temperatu
Well, those PV panels are of course using a handy fusion reactor.
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Chris: you said it. I did not refer to "hydraulic fracturing' or "injecting
(anything) INTO THE ROCK"
nto
> the spinning turbine. If you used the steam from the well head you would be
> replacing turbines every year or two.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
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> *Sent:* Satu
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On 11/16/2013 12:51 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
Dry rock geothermal
On 11/16/2013 12:51 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
Dry rock geothermal certainly does have a big upside potential -- there is a whole lot
of heat just a few miles below the ground, but it is not as easy or simple as you seem
to think it is. For example in a lot of dry areas water supply becomes a
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Chris: if you utter "reservoir" - you are on the wrong track. Nothing must
"COME OUT" from the depth.
Not even what YOU pumped
rote:
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
Dear Telmo, oil wells went down deeper than previously estimated as
feasible. Techniques are evolving.
If 2, 0r 5 pipes are inadequate in transport capacity, use more. Ask the
engineers - I also claim ignorance.
the geological temperature vertical map is varying according to a lot of
factors.
Ignor
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If you need to push this TW challenge back at me, I would
my fear is that
neither can, and rather then perish from AGW, we perish from energy starvation
because the old tech is so dirty.
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Telmo:
unfortunately I reflected to the NZ solution on another
Hi John,
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:33 PM, John Mikes wrote:
> Telmo:
> unfortunately I reflected to the NZ solution on another list... - it is a
> convoluted - I could say:
> inadeqyate - technology, just as the Au version of the surface utilization.
> SOME PARTS OF THE WORLD??? let us say: the s
Brent: that is a convoluted solution! I appreciate that you love sunshine,
but keep it for the beach.
Have you ever calculated how much surface of the present day efficiency is
required to collect -
say - 1000 times the energy we use today on the Globe? Think of energy
required for the missing
rain
Telmo:
unfortunately I reflected to the NZ solution on another list... - it is a
convoluted - I could say:
inadeqyate - technology, just as the Au version of the surface utilization.
SOME PARTS OF THE WORLD??? let us say: the surface?
Solar woulrd cover immense surfaces just for supplying the energ
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Ok, but I am not hostile at all to geothermal, especially
must work, or its virtually, useless. If
people insist on new, clean, energy, then they must produce the solutions.
Hence, I say, faster, please.
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On 11/15/2013 12:15 AM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
So the energy would
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>>Please understand, that unless your geothermal is
On 16 November 2013 07:01, meekerdb wrote:
> The main problem is just size. I considered designing an energy storage
> system to be used with home, rooftop PVs. I looked around for something
> heavy that could be lifted up to store energy. My car. It weighs about
> 2600lb. Suppose I lifted i
On 11/15/2013 12:15 AM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
So the energy would be stored in the potential energy of the heavy piston and the water
would just be a working medium? Why not put the weight on a cable and use a purely
mechanical system? I'd think that could be more efficient that a water t
costly, this is, how
environmental, how technically doable-I don't know.
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On 11/14/2013 3:39 PM, LizR wrote:
On 15 November 20
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On 11/14/2013 6:28 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
From
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On 11/14/2013 3
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On 11/14/2013 3:39 PM, LizR wrote:
On 15 November 2013 11:39, John
On 15 November 2013 13:29, meekerdb wrote:
> On 11/14/2013 3:39 PM, LizR wrote:
>
> On 15 November 2013 11:39, John Mikes wrote:
>
>> Telmo and other 'experts':
>> why does nobody even mention the geothermic energy app - available in
>> huge Q-s and so far tapped only in (literalily) 'superfici
On 11/14/2013 3:39 PM, LizR wrote:
On 15 November 2013 11:39, John Mikes mailto:jami...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Telmo and other 'experts':
why does nobody even mention the geothermic energy app - available in huge
Q-s and
so far tapped only in (literalily) 'superficial' usage. The high p
On 15 November 2013 11:39, John Mikes wrote:
> Telmo and other 'experts':
> why does nobody even mention the geothermic energy app - available in huge
> Q-s and so far tapped only in (literalily) 'superficial' usage. The high
> pressure ultra-clean steam from a deepened modification of the exhaus
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> > Subject: Re: Our Demon-Haunted World
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:49 AM, LizR wrote:
> >> On 13 November 2013 10:55, wrote:
> >>>
> >>> if you
On 13 Nov 2013, at 23:43, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/13/2013 12:38 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
What is legal? Guns, oil, car, tobacco, alcohol, those things kill
a lot, and none are/were really necessary.
Killing people with guns (or otherwise) is generally illegal.
I think it is a good idea, exc
On 13 Nov 2013, at 23:27, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/13/2013 11:38 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
The catholic and the chihite,
This one: http://lordblumiere.deviantart.com/art/Chihite-Angelorum-61177983
Sorry, I was using the french terming. I was referring to those
following Shi'a Islam, or Shi'
On 13 Nov 2013, at 17:43, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/13/2013 12:59 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 12 Nov 2013, at 22:10, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
As human beings they were reluctant to provide hard earned data to
those who had proved to mere critics - like you - with no interest
but to spre
On 11/13/2013 12:38 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
What is legal? Guns, oil, car, tobacco, alcohol, those things kill a lot, and none
are/were really necessary.
Killing people with guns (or otherwise) is generally illegal. Very few things are
necessary to live - but many things are desirable.
Wha
On 11/13/2013 11:38 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
The catholic and the chihite,
This one: http://lordblumiere.deviantart.com/art/Chihite-Angelorum-61177983
Brent
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>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:49 AM, LizR wrote:
>> On 13 November 2013 10:55, wrote:
>>>
>>> if you want us to give up the bad, dirty, power, then please provide
>>> a clean, affordable, abundant su
A few moments ago I though: For sure meekerdeb will attack with one of
their standard two-line mini-rant snippets that cut and paste
everywhere
And here it is.
Chris at least spend a bit more effort before his final attack with his
black helicopters
2013/11/13 meekerdb
> On 11/13/2013 2
On 13 Nov 2013, at 12:54, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
I would be easy to make a joke of your comments about cannabis, but
it would not have been fair.
No problem.
But If I take it seriously, I can not figh both conspiranoic
theories in the same thread.
Thanks for not using the "conspi
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On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:49 AM, LizR wrote:
> On 13 November 2013 10:55, wrote:
>>
>> if you want us to give up the bad, dirty, power,
On 11/13/2013 2:51 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Also, I am against prohibition of any products, including oil, but "prohibition of hemp"
has lead to making oil quasi obligatory.
So the problem is not oil (and fossil fuel), the problem is the unfair competition
brought by people having private inter
On 11/13/2013 2:13 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
That is not bad in principle, is what is it and is human nature. But in anomial
societies like the modern West, where the small comunities were lost time ago, and the
christian faith that created a big sense of comunity for all the West also has
On 11/13/2013 1:06 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
Regarding solar power -- this could be the solution but it's sci-fi at
the moment.
I don't know what you mean by this? Are you implying that it is like teleportation or
interstellar space flight? Those are things that we don't know how to do. But
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 13, 2013 12:17 AM
> *To:* everything-list
>
> *Subject:* Re: Our Demon-Haunted World
>
>
>
> Of course comrade.
>
> Why don´t y
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On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:49 AM, LizR
Demon-Haunted World
Of course comrade.
Why don´t you translate to Europe? Here our party is not only in the
University, but in the media too. Here the truth is said: Every disaster is
a product of greedy American capitalism, or barbarious zionism. But better
though, We need you there in the
On 11/13/2013 12:59 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 12 Nov 2013, at 22:10, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
As human beings they were reluctant to provide hard earned data to those
who had
proved to mere critics - like you - with no interest but to spread doubt.
Can ever have been a more cle
.
Exactly.
> Mitch
>
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> Subject: Re: Our Demon-Haunted World
>
> On 13 November 2013 10:55, wrote:
>>
>> if you want us to give up the bad, dirty, power, then plea
13 6:49 pm
Subject: Re: Our Demon-Haunted World
On 13 November 2013 10:55, wrote:
if you want us to give up the bad, dirty, power, then please provide a clean,
affordable, abundant substitute. Faster, please.
The Sun, of course. Produces millions of times more power than we need.
Trou
I would be easy to make a joke of your comments about cannabis, but it
would not have been fair.
But If I take it seriously, I can not figh both conspiranoic theories in
the same thread. The deniers of global warming hell and the deniers of
cannabis heaven. It´s too much for me.
2013/11/13 Br
On 13 Nov 2013, at 10:32, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Bruno.
Thanks for your measured style and your gentle responses, as always.
But the prevention principle, that has been incorporated to the
French Constitution a few years ago, has disastrous consequences. We
have only one planet. But we h
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:18 AM, LizR wrote:
> On 13 November 2013 22:06, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:49 AM, LizR wrote:
>> > On 13 November 2013 10:55, wrote:
>> >>
>> >> if you want us to give up the bad, dirty, power, then please provide a
>> >> clean, affordable,
t; invalid reason, ...
>
> Bruno
>
>
>
>
>
> Mitch
> -Original Message-----
> From: Alberto G. Corona
> To: everything-list
> Sent: Tue, Nov 12, 2013 3:12 pm
> Subject: Re: Our Demon-Haunted World
>
> Thus said, because there are eternal laws, t
Wikipedia on the price of solar panels. The last sentence shows the
"Moore's law" type trend which I hope will continue.
Average pricing information divides in three pricing categories: those
buying small quantities (modules of all sizes in the kilowatt range
annually), mid-range buyers (typically
On 13 November 2013 22:06, Telmo Menezes wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:49 AM, LizR wrote:
> > On 13 November 2013 10:55, wrote:
> >>
> >> if you want us to give up the bad, dirty, power, then please provide a
> >> clean, affordable, abundant substitute. Faster, please.
> >
> >
> > The Sun
Corona
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Thus said, because there are eternal laws, there are eternal truths.
For the materialists, Konrad Lorenz said something extraordinarily
profound that connect two universes of knowledge: The Kantian
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:49 AM, LizR wrote:
> On 13 November 2013 10:55, wrote:
>>
>> if you want us to give up the bad, dirty, power, then please provide a
>> clean, affordable, abundant substitute. Faster, please.
>
>
> The Sun, of course. Produces millions of times more power than we need.
>
On 12 Nov 2013, at 22:10, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
As human beings they were reluctant to provide hard earned data to
those who had proved to mere critics - like you - with no interest
but to spread doubt.
Can ever have been a more clear confession of sectarianism ? Doubt
about what
Of course comrade.
Why don´t you translate to Europe? Here our party is not only in the
University, but in the media too. Here the truth is said: Every disaster is
a product of greedy American capitalism, or barbarious zionism. But better
though, We need you there in the Capitalist land.
Salam ale
As I see it, the problem is connecting atmospheric disaster events to
global warming.
I have been looking for such a connection in the scientific literature and
even in AGW blogs w/o success.
Before going into physics I was an undergraduate student of mechanical
engineering.
In our fluid dynamic c
On 12 November 2013 22:56, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
>
>> This is laughable. Not a SINGLE article against human warming was
> publised in the main scientific magazines and you said that the process was
> perverted by the "deniers"? I have no option but to think that you believe
> en evil deamons
2013/11/13 LizR
> On 13 November 2013 10:55, wrote:
>
>> if you want us to give up the bad, dirty, power, then please provide a
>> clean, affordable, abundant substitute. Faster, please.
>>
>
> The Sun, of course. Produces millions of times more power than we need.
>
> Trouble is the fossil fue
On 11/12/2013 3:49 PM, LizR wrote:
On 13 November 2013 10:55, mailto:spudboy...@aol.com>>
wrote:
if you want us to give up the bad, dirty, power, then please provide a
clean,
affordable, abundant substitute. Faster, please.
The Sun, of course. Produces millions of times more power th
On 13 November 2013 10:55, wrote:
> if you want us to give up the bad, dirty, power, then please provide a
> clean, affordable, abundant substitute. Faster, please.
>
The Sun, of course. Produces millions of times more power than we need.
Trouble is the fossil fuel industry doesn't want us to u
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On 11/12/2013 1:36 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Brent, trycruising Wikipedia. I don't know of any biologist or
physician,that di
Indeed. I look at things a bit different, perhaps. then yourself. I see it, us,
as being set against obliteration versus existence.
Mitch
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Subject: Re: Our Demon-Haunted World
Thus said
On 11/12/2013 1:36 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Brent, try cruising Wikipedia. I don't know of any biologist or physician, that didn't
approve of this nonsense. I am not aware of anyone speaking out authoritatively, as a
scientist that opposed eugenics. Maybe you can, but I don't recall anyone
s was pro-birth control medical
advocates, or public health administrators, I think nobody uttered a peep,
anywhere until maybe the 1950's?
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On
> As human beings they were reluctant to provide hard earned data to those
> who had proved to mere critics - like you - with no interest but to spread
> doubt.
>
> Can ever have been a more clear confession of sectarianism ? Doubt about
what? about what yours affirm that is truth and must be taken
On 13 November 2013 06:40, meekerdb wrote:
> I knew you didn't live on this planet or care for it's future.
>
> Quite clearly - "I have my own dirt to attend to" ignores the existence of
the commons we all share in. If Alberto wants to move to Mars then fine, he
is no longer invested in the Earth
On 13 November 2013 05:19, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
>
> And the fact is that there are plenty of energy and materials everywhere.
> The only lacking resource is the inteligence and ingenuity of more people
> to learn to use them.
>
That at least you have got right.
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On 11/12/2013 12:30 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
So you say that because the data was finally available against their will, they are good
scientists that welcome the challenges and the scientific method?
They were not compelled, they agreed to provide the data after discussing whether there
wa
So you say that because the data was finally available against their will,
they are good scientists that welcome the challenges and the scientific
method? : Their practices tell absolutely the contrary. And the fact that
their data leaked out is not in their merit, in the contrary. All what you
men
ith your elegy.
>
> Mitch
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> Sent: Tue, Nov 12, 2013 6:42 am
> Subject: Re: Our Demon-Haunted World
>
> To spudboy:
>
> Reason alone does`n move to anything, not even to knowledge. If yo
On 11/12/2013 11:53 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
You said it: the calentological comunity, acting as a single entity, denied their data.
to scientists with different points of view.
But they didn't. They only discussed it and noted that some of the data didn't belong to
them but had been shar
You said it: the calentological comunity, acting as a single entity, denied
their data. to scientists with different points of view. That is not
science. that is a sectarian organization that, because are working with
public funding are breaking not only the law and the decency, but the last
bit of
On 11/12/2013 4:14 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 12 Nov 2013, at 11:54, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
"So what would you suggest as a replacement? The scientific method is, to paraphrase
Winston Churchill on democracy, the worst system we have apart from all the others
we've tried."
Following yo
On 11/12/2013 2:54 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
When the science and their media is dominated by a single coalition united in the mutual
interest to increase their budget and they have the communication means of internet to
coordinate in this effort, then there is no science.
Albert doesn't
a totalitarian
> new world order and force everyone into the chains of communism
>
> Watch out for those black helicopters they are out to get you.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> everything-list@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf
On 11/12/2013 1:56 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
2013/11/12 meekerdb mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>>
On 11/11/2013 5:04 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Every science whose conclusions have effects in politics has a high
risk of
being manipulated. In the URSS and here. From Ant
to G. Corona
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 1:56 AM
To: everything-list
Subject: Re: Our Demon-Haunted World
2013/11/12 meekerdb
On 11/11/2013 5:04 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Every science whose conclusions have effects in politics has a high risk of
being manipulated. In the URSS and
I agree and understand, Alberto, with your elegy.
Mitch
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Subject: Re: Our Demon-Haunted World
To spudboy:
Reason alone does`n move to anything, not even to knowledge. If you think that
2013/11/12 Bruno Marchal
>
> On 12 Nov 2013, at 11:54, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
>
>
> "So what would you suggest as a replacement? The scientific method is, to
> paraphrase Winston Churchill on democracy, the worst system we have apart
> from all the others we've tried."
>
> Following your analog
On 12 Nov 2013, at 11:54, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
"So what would you suggest as a replacement? The scientific method
is, to paraphrase Winston Churchill on democracy, the worst system
we have apart from all the others we've tried."
Following your analogy. when the the media, and the pol
> dining at a restaurant, a good one, the High Reasoner, meets with an old
> friend to discuss the new FIFA rules issued for the World Cup. The friend
> slides over a closed sports magazine. "Have a look at this article in the
> middle, here." Inside the magazine is a rather th
On 12 Nov 2013, at 06:23, Chris de Morsella wrote:
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] On Behalf Of Bruno Marchal
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On 11 Nov 2013
"So what would you suggest as a replacement? The scientific method is, to
paraphrase Winston Churchill on democracy, the worst system we have apart
from all the others we've tried."
Following your analogy. when the the media, and the politicians
of majority parties form a coalition to defend their
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:36 AM, LizR wrote:
> Hi Telmo
>
> There maye have been a hint of sarcasm in my comment, to be honest.
I suspected as much, but wanted to babble anyway :)
> I don't
> think we will better the scientific method, although we may be able to
> improve how we "implement" it,
2013/11/12 LizR
> On 12 November 2013 14:04, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
>
>> Every science whose conclusions have effects in politics has a high risk
>> of being manipulated. In the URSS and here. From Anthropology to long term
>> Meteorology to everything in the middle. The one that does not real
2013/11/12 meekerdb
> On 11/11/2013 5:04 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
>
>> Every science whose conclusions have effects in politics has a high risk
>> of being manipulated. In the URSS and here. From Anthropology to long term
>> Meteorology to everything in the middle. The one that does not reali
Hi Telmo
There maye have been a hint of sarcasm in my comment, to be honest. I don't
think we will better the scientific method, although we may be able to
improve how we "implement" it, as it were - the human part of the equation.
But I'm glad I stimulated your interesting comments, anyway!
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On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 3:30 AM, LizR wrote:
> On 12 November 2013 14:04, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
>>
>> Every science whose conclusions have effects in politics has a high risk
>> of being manipulated. In the URSS and here. From Anthropology to long term
>> Meteorology to everything in the middl
On 12 November 2013 17:47, Chris de Morsella wrote:
> Morpheus: This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back.
> You take the blue pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and
> believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill - you stay in
> Wonderland and I sho
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On 11 Nov 2013, at 18:49, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
A
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>> it's like when there actually are rising temperatures and
On 11 Nov 2013, at 19:34, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/11/2013 12:13 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 10 Nov 2013, at 05:52, meekerdb wrote:
3. What do you recommend if the US refuses to comply?
?? You mean the U.S. government refuses to act in the best
interests of it's citizens: Vote them out.
it's like when there actually are rising temperatures and rising sea levels
and rising O2 and increasingly wild weather and ice melting all over the
world, you stop and say, oh hang on, maybe Fourier had a point after all
when he worked out the Greenhouse effect in 1824. Rather than just putting
y
he middle, here." Inside the magazine is a rather
thick envelope.
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On 11 Nov 2013, at 01:27, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Ok, but this is a techn
On 12 November 2013 14:04, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
> Every science whose conclusions have effects in politics has a high risk
> of being manipulated. In the URSS and here. From Anthropology to long term
> Meteorology to everything in the middle. The one that does not realize that
> is poor fool
On 11/11/2013 5:04 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Every science whose conclusions have effects in politics has a high risk of being
manipulated. In the URSS and here. From Anthropology to long term Meteorology to
everything in the middle. The one that does not realize that is poor fool who does no
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