Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
He isn't getting a folic acid supplement but he does get some in his EVO cat food. I'm almost done with the bottle of Pet-Tinic and then I'm going to try Nutrived. Amy I would keep doing what you're doing, 27% isn't horrible. Be sure and keep up the pet tinic, is he getting folic acid too it isn't in pet tinic and is needed for building new blood. I wouldn't panic yet, just keep a close eye on him and think positive. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
Thanks for the info. I've joined the anemia group and am reading up on it. Has anybody on this list tried the Epogen for a leuk pos cat that is anemic? I read a lot about Epogen being very effective for anemia and I read about people using it for CRF. Just wondering what sort of experiences people have had using it for non-regenerative anemia not due to CRF. Thanks Amy --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 6:48 AM Amy, Epogen is very effective for treating non-regenerative anemia. Treatment is not started until the HCT or PCV is below 20 and usually in the mid-teens. The Anemia group I gave you the link for has more info on treatment protocol. Sharyl --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Iva Lark Emily Seaberg melleph...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Iva Lark Emily Seaberg melleph...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 1:32 AM A few years ago I had a kitty with Chronic Renal Failure. Towards the end he was extremely anemic and we did the Epogen. I'm so glad we did it because it did buy us some time. I decided to try the Epogen when it became clear he was not making new blood cells, his anemia became extreme and we knew that without help he would die from it, a slow, lethargic and very sad death. I wanted to give him a chance and the Epogen did. My vet talked to UC Davis about his unique situation (he also had high blood pressure and a heart problem) and we gave him a really really low dose. I believe typically they give it 3-4 times a week and we gave it once a week. It was such a low dose the vet thought it might not work, but it did and actually better than we anticipated. So, I can't speak for the FeLV stuff, but I can say the Epogen wasn't as evil as I was expecting to be from what I had heard word of mouth. We used it very cautiously, and it seemed to make a big difference. You just really have to watch it, start off slow. It is easier to add treatments then try and slow it down and you don't want their values increasing too fast. Good luck, Iva - Original Message - Message: 7 Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:38:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update So I've been posting about my cat Wolfie who has been losing weight since about mid 2006, from 15.4 lbs down to 10.8 lbs today. His last visit was on July 2nd and he had a HCT of 29. He also tested positive for Mycoplasma haemominutum previously called Haemobartonella felis small form. He's been on doxy, pred, and Pet-Tinic twice daily for almost a month. My vet thought he looked great today and he hasn't lost any weight since his last visit but he's not gaining and his HCT is still going down. We took a tiny amount of blood and sent it out for a reticulocyte count. I've lost almost all my leuk positives to anemia in the end (except for one to lymphoma and one to neurological issues) and I'm really bummed out by the news. I was hoping treating the Hemobart would help the HCT even though my vet wasn't as optimistic. I'm just wondering how most people here lose their leuk positives. It seems all of mine do so well, are completely asymptomatic and then out of nowhere they stop making red blood cells, the HCT starts to drop, and it is downhill from there. My vet wrote me a 10 page letter on everything that could cause weight loss and anemia and we have eliminated almost all the possibilities I think. We haven't done a digestive panel yet because it takes 4 mls of blood and I don't want to do that with his HCT dropping. If the reticulocyte test comes back and shows he is making red blood cells, we will start investigating digestive issues or anything else that could be causing his lower HCT. If it comes back as nonregenerative anemia, is there anything I can do? I know there is the option of Epogen and I'm looking into that. Anything else or do I just spend time with him and wait? I hate this point where they are feeling fine, looking fine, and I know it's only a matter of time :( This guy has been with me longer than any of my other positives and I'd do anything to help him but I'm afraid there's nothing else I can do. Thoughts? Amy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
Great, I think as long as he seems to feel fine and his HCT doesn't start dropping I would be too concerned yet. All kitties are individuals and maybe that is a decent HCT for him, wouldn't want it to get much lower though. Fred's (CRF) HCT has been between 24% and 29% for the last 3 years or more. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
Bailey was on epogen for almost 6 months when he became anemic, it brought his HCT from a low of 15% back up to 40% within 6 weeks or so. When he passed he was still on a maintanence dose of epogen once a week and his HCT was holding at 33%. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
PS. His anemia was related to his positive status. My vet thinks the virus activated in his bone marrow and that is what brought on the anemia, he developed pancreatic cancer in the 6 months we were trying to figure out what was going on. It was obvious something was still wrong because even after we got his HCT normalized he was very lethargic and wouldn't eat. My gut feeling was pancreatitis but my vet didn't think so because his blood work was normal, I wish I had followed my instincts and had the test for pancreatitis done, he may not have developed cancer if we had treated him for that. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
Amy. I haven't had any success once they start to fail. Maybe others can help. There are two yahoo groups that may help with the symptoms. There is a assist feeding group that can offer support regarding the wt. loss. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/ There is an anemia group that has info in their files on Epogen for non-regenerative anemia http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline_Anemia/ Hugs to Wolfie Sharyl --- On Tue, 8/4/09, Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 7:38 PM So I've been posting about my cat Wolfie who has been losing weight since about mid 2006, from 15.4 lbs down to 10.8 lbs today. His last visit was on July 2nd and he had a HCT of 29. He also tested positive for Mycoplasma haemominutum previously called Haemobartonella felis small form. He's been on doxy, pred, and Pet-Tinic twice daily for almost a month. My vet thought he looked great today and he hasn't lost any weight since his last visit but he's not gaining and his HCT is still going down. We took a tiny amount of blood and sent it out for a reticulocyte count. I've lost almost all my leuk positives to anemia in the end (except for one to lymphoma and one to neurological issues) and I'm really bummed out by the news. I was hoping treating the Hemobart would help the HCT even though my vet wasn't as optimistic. I'm just wondering how most people here lose their leuk positives. It seems all of mine do so well, are completely asymptomatic and then out of nowhere they stop making red blood cells, the HCT starts to drop, and it is downhill from there. My vet wrote me a 10 page letter on everything that could cause weight loss and anemia and we have eliminated almost all the possibilities I think. We haven't done a digestive panel yet because it takes 4 mls of blood and I don't want to do that with his HCT dropping. If the reticulocyte test comes back and shows he is making red blood cells, we will start investigating digestive issues or anything else that could be causing his lower HCT. If it comes back as nonregenerative anemia, is there anything I can do? I know there is the option of Epogen and I'm looking into that. Anything else or do I just spend time with him and wait? I hate this point where they are feeling fine, looking fine, and I know it's only a matter of time :( This guy has been with me longer than any of my other positives and I'd do anything to help him but I'm afraid there's nothing else I can do. Thoughts? Amy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
Hello Amy :-) All I know is that Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator by Imulan worked very well for my FeLV+ cat w/ severe anemia... http://www.imulan.com/ Hiromi :-D Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:38:44 -0700 From: awilkin...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update So I've been posting about my cat Wolfie who has been losing weight since about mid 2006, from 15.4 lbs down to 10.8 lbs today. His last visit was on July 2nd and he had a HCT of 29. He also tested positive for Mycoplasma haemominutum previously called Haemobartonella felis small form. He's been on doxy, pred, and Pet-Tinic twice daily for almost a month. My vet thought he looked great today and he hasn't lost any weight since his last visit but he's not gaining and his HCT is still going down. We took a tiny amount of blood and sent it out for a reticulocyte count. I've lost almost all my leuk positives to anemia in the end (except for one to lymphoma and one to neurological issues) and I'm really bummed out by the news. I was hoping treating the Hemobart would help the HCT even though my vet wasn't as optimistic. I'm just wondering how most people here lose their leuk positives. It seems all of mine do so well, are completely asymptomatic and then out of nowhere they stop making red blood cells, the HCT starts to drop, and it is downhill from there. My vet wrote me a 10 page letter on everything that could cause weight loss and anemia and we have eliminated almost all the possibilities I think. We haven't done a digestive panel yet because it takes 4 mls of blood and I don't want to do that with his HCT dropping. If the reticulocyte test comes back and shows he is making red blood cells, we will start investigating digestive issues or anything else that could be causing his lower HCT. If it comes back as nonregenerative anemia, is there anything I can do? I know there is the option of Epogen and I'm looking into that. Anything else or do I just spend time with him and wait? I hate this point where they are feeling fine, looking fine, and I know it's only a matter of time :( This guy has been with me longer than any of my other positives and I'd do anything to help him but I'm afraid there's nothing else I can do. Thoughts? Amy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Get your vacation photos on your phone! http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx?OCID=0809TL-HM ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
hiromi, i'd be very interested in learning about the blood values your cat showed, what kind of anemia it had, what other things you tried, how long it was on the lcti, etc. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
If nothing else is working, by the way I have heard doxy can take as long as 6 weeks to show results, but if his HCT is still going down don't know that I would be thinking that. But as I was saying if nothing else is working and you are faced with death, my personally I would try the epogen, if the alternative is death you have nothing to lose. Sending lots of prayers for Wolfie and you. What is his HCT now?? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
A few years ago I had a kitty with Chronic Renal Failure. Towards the end he was extremely anemic and we did the Epogen. I'm so glad we did it because it did buy us some time. I decided to try the Epogen when it became clear he was not making new blood cells, his anemia became extreme and we knew that without help he would die from it, a slow, lethargic and very sad death. I wanted to give him a chance and the Epogen did. My vet talked to UC Davis about his unique situation (he also had high blood pressure and a heart problem) and we gave him a really really low dose. I believe typically they give it 3-4 times a week and we gave it once a week. It was such a low dose the vet thought it might not work, but it did and actually better than we anticipated. So, I can't speak for the FeLV stuff, but I can say the Epogen wasn't as evil as I was expecting to be from what I had heard word of mouth. We used it very cautiously, and it seemed to make a big difference. You just really have to watch it, start off slow. It is easier to add treatments then try and slow it down and you don't want their values increasing too fast. Good luck, Iva - Original Message - Message: 7 Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:38:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update So I've been posting about my cat Wolfie who has been losing weight since about mid 2006, from 15.4 lbs down to 10.8 lbs today. His last visit was on July 2nd and he had a HCT of 29. He also tested positive for Mycoplasma haemominutum previously called Haemobartonella felis small form. He's been on doxy, pred, and Pet-Tinic twice daily for almost a month. My vet thought he looked great today and he hasn't lost any weight since his last visit but he's not gaining and his HCT is still going down. We took a tiny amount of blood and sent it out for a reticulocyte count. I've lost almost all my leuk positives to anemia in the end (except for one to lymphoma and one to neurological issues) and I'm really bummed out by the news. I was hoping treating the Hemobart would help the HCT even though my vet wasn't as optimistic. I'm just wondering how most people here lose their leuk positives. It seems all of mine do so well, are completely asymptomatic and then out of nowhere they stop making red blood cells, the HCT starts to drop, and it is downhill from there. My vet wrote me a 10 page letter on everything that could cause weight loss and anemia and we have eliminated almost all the possibilities I think. We haven't done a digestive panel yet because it takes 4 mls of blood and I don't want to do that with his HCT dropping. If the reticulocyte test comes back and shows he is making red blood cells, we will start investigating digestive issues or anything else that could be causing his lower HCT. If it comes back as nonregenerative anemia, is there anything I can do? I know there is the option of Epogen and I'm looking into that. Anything else or do I just spend time with him and wait? I hate this point where they are feeling fine, looking fine, and I know it's only a matter of time :( This guy has been with me longer than any of my other positives and I'd do anything to help him but I'm afraid there's nothing else I can do. Thoughts? Amy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Update re: New Kitten, New Worries
Good news! Our newest kitten, arescue who only has about 20% sight, is FeLV NEGATIVE! We dearly love our two positive kitties but are so glad Charcoal doesn't have that to deal with in addition to blindness. Thanks to all for the kind words! Jody and Coal Help blind cats see a future! www.blindcatrescue.com On Aug 3, 2009, at 1:00 PM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org wrote: Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org You can reach the person managing the list at felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Have I done enough to open the room where ourbeautiful little FELV+ kitty died? (catatonya) 2. Re: Have I done enough to open the room whereourbeautiful little FELV+ kitty died? (gary) 3. New Kitten, New Worries (Jody Butler) 4. Re: New Kitten, New Worries (Gloria B. Lane) 5. Re: New Kitten, New Worries (Sharyl) 6. Introduction - Rebecca (Iva Lark Emily Seaberg) 7. Re: Introduction - Rebecca (gary) 8. Re: Introduction - Rebecca (Chris) 9. Re: for Kelley OT (Kelley Saveika) 10. Re: Introduction - Rebecca (Sharyl) 11. Re: Introduction - Rebecca (Diane Rosenfeldt) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 10:55:07 -0700 (PDT) From: catatonya catato...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Have I done enough to open the room where our beautiful little FELV+ kitty died? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: 877117.77528...@web43139.mail.sp1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 are your other cats vaccinated? if so I would go ahead. --- On Tue, 7/21/09, margaret-sou...@comcast.net margaret-sou...@comcast.net wrote: From: margaret-sou...@comcast.net margaret-sou...@comcast.net Subject: [Felvtalk] Have I done enough to open the room where our beautiful little FELV+ kitty died? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 12:12 AM I hope we can get some advice. Last Monday we had to have our beautiful little foster kitty euthanized.? We belong to a rescue group that pulls and fosters cats at the local county shelter who are in danger of being put down.? We found out about a week after pulling little Maybelline that she was FELV+.? Our vet did complete blood work on her.? Her pvc was only 20 (normal being 30-45), but she was eating and loved attention.? We were so hopeful and of course adopted her immediately.? Within ten days or so Maybelline became listless and wouldn't eat.? Our vet rushed over.??Total count?was down to 8% and immediately we rushed Maybelline to the local vet hospital for a blood transfusion.? She did really well; predisone was also described.? Again we were hopeful.? Our vet planned to check her count every week. At week one it was 15%, not great, but if she could maintain it and EAT, she could continue on.? In only 5 days we noticed same ominous symptoms again.? Vet rechecked Maybelline's blood.? Count was down to 10% and her gums were terribly pale.? In good conscience our vet said we simply couldn't transfuse every two weeks, it just wasn't fair to our little girl.? I heard this news when in Boston visitng my aging (95.5 yrs) mother.? My husband had been prepared that Maybelline might die over the weekend before I returned.? My husband tried everything he knew to get her to eat, but nothing really worked.? She was just too weak. Thankfully, little Maybelline lasted through the weekend.? Sunday we tried to spend as much time as possible with her.? Monday our vet euthanized her.? Both of us were crying.? I'm still having bad spells as it just seemed so preventable and unnecessary if only Maybelline's first owners had vaccinated her! Anyhow, we kept her completely separate from our other five kitties.? We've cleaned the room thoroughly (soap and water on floors and walls she might have touched) and removed her litter box.? I always kept her food dishes separate.? The perch cover and blankets and sheets she touched or slept on have been washed with bleach.? Only a few furniture surfaces like the legs on the bed or desk haven't been washed.? Should they be?? While we would take another FELV+ kitty in a heartbeat (just hope we'd have them a little longer!), we definitely don't want to jeopardize our other little ones who are 100% healthy and have had vaccinations against FELV. Can we open the room at this point?? Our other five kitties used to?play in?it, but we heard no complaints when Maybelline occupied it! We'd appreciate any advice anyone can give on this topic.? I'm
[Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
So I've been posting about my cat Wolfie who has been losing weight since about mid 2006, from 15.4 lbs down to 10.8 lbs today. His last visit was on July 2nd and he had a HCT of 29. He also tested positive for Mycoplasma haemominutum previously called Haemobartonella felis small form. He's been on doxy, pred, and Pet-Tinic twice daily for almost a month. My vet thought he looked great today and he hasn't lost any weight since his last visit but he's not gaining and his HCT is still going down. We took a tiny amount of blood and sent it out for a reticulocyte count. I've lost almost all my leuk positives to anemia in the end (except for one to lymphoma and one to neurological issues) and I'm really bummed out by the news. I was hoping treating the Hemobart would help the HCT even though my vet wasn't as optimistic. I'm just wondering how most people here lose their leuk positives. It seems all of mine do so well, are completely asymptomatic and then out of nowhere they stop making red blood cells, the HCT starts to drop, and it is downhill from there. My vet wrote me a 10 page letter on everything that could cause weight loss and anemia and we have eliminated almost all the possibilities I think. We haven't done a digestive panel yet because it takes 4 mls of blood and I don't want to do that with his HCT dropping. If the reticulocyte test comes back and shows he is making red blood cells, we will start investigating digestive issues or anything else that could be causing his lower HCT. If it comes back as nonregenerative anemia, is there anything I can do? I know there is the option of Epogen and I'm looking into that. Anything else or do I just spend time with him and wait? I hate this point where they are feeling fine, looking fine, and I know it's only a matter of time :( This guy has been with me longer than any of my other positives and I'd do anything to help him but I'm afraid there's nothing else I can do. Thoughts? Amy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tigerlily,Grace and Cherry update
Great news. Hugs to everyone and double hugs to Dr. Jen Sharyl --- On Sat, 5/30/09, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Tigerlily,Grace and Cherry update To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 8:58 PM Well I spoke with Dr. Jen tonight and she said she was just about to let Tigerlily go when ger gut told her not to give up just yet.She also retested her and she is now fiv-. She had to put a feeding tube in and now just needs prayers. Grace is a rollercoaster,fevers up and down not eating well.But she is not giving up on her. Cherry is doing the best now,she is reponding pretty well to the meds but still not out of the water yet. So please keep them all in your prayers Jen included she is just SO drained,but she is AWESOME!! Thank you all; Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tigerlily,Grace and Cherry update
Thanks for the update Sherry. Continuing to send prayers and healing thoughts to your sweet Tigerlily, Grace and Cherry. Wonderful that Tigerlily retested fiv - -- Dr Jen has a good gut instinct. Tell Dr Jen she is indeed awesome, hugs, Kerry M. On 30/05/2009, at 7:58 PM, Sherry DeHaan wrote: Well I spoke with Dr. Jen tonight and she said she was just about to let Tigerlily go when ger gut told her not to give up just yet.She also retested her and she is now fiv-. She had to put a feeding tube in and now just needs prayers. Grace is a rollercoaster,fevers up and down not eating well.But she is not giving up on her. Cherry is doing the best now,she is reponding pretty well to the meds but still not out of the water yet. So please keep them all in your prayers Jen included she is just SO drained,but she is AWESOME!! Thank you all; Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Tigerlily,Grace and Cherry update
Well I spoke with Dr. Jen tonight and she said she was just about to let Tigerlily go when ger gut told her not to give up just yet.She also retested her and she is now fiv-. She had to put a feeding tube in and now just needs prayers. Grace is a rollercoaster,fevers up and down not eating well.But she is not giving up on her. Cherry is doing the best now,she is reponding pretty well to the meds but still not out of the water yet. So please keep them all in your prayers Jen included she is just SO drained,but she is AWESOME!! Thank you all; Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tigerlily,Grace and Cherry update
You bet...they are all in my thoughts and prayers! In a message dated 5/30/2009 5:58:36 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, sherryd...@yahoo.com writes: Well I spoke with Dr. Jen tonight and she said she was just about to let Tigerlily go when ger gut told her not to give up just yet.She also retested her and she is now fiv-. She had to put a feeding tube in and now just needs prayers. Grace is a rollercoaster,fevers up and down not eating well.But she is not giving up on her. Cherry is doing the best now,she is reponding pretty well to the meds but still not out of the water yet. So please keep them all in your prayers Jen included she is just SO drained,but she is AWESOME!! Thank you all; Sherry TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Sultan/Startup, WA. _http://tazzys.org/_ (http://tazzys.org/index.html) Board Member for 501(c)3 Non-Profit national rescue. All donations are tax deductible. _http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/_ (http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/) Terrie Mohr-Forker **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221322950x1201367186/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62bcd= MaystepsfooterNO62) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tigerlily,Grace and Cherry update
Has Jen considered cloning herself? ;-) Bless her for all her efforts to save these babies, and vibes that they all perk up. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 7:58 PM To: Felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] Tigerlily,Grace and Cherry update Well I spoke with Dr. Jen tonight and she said she was just about to let Tigerlily go when ger gut told her not to give up just yet.She also retested her and she is now fiv-. She had to put a feeding tube in and now just needs prayers. Grace is a rollercoaster,fevers up and down not eating well.But she is not giving up on her. Cherry is doing the best now,she is reponding pretty well to the meds but still not out of the water yet. So please keep them all in your prayers Jen included she is just SO drained,but she is AWESOME!! Thank you all; Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] UPDATE: Tampa FL: Double suicide leaves 3 FELV+ cats, high kill facility
I hope I didn't sound angry in my post (angry towards the couple who committed suicide)I have dealt with severe depression my whole lifewhen I have those thoughts though I know I have so many precious little lives who need me. I do however regret the pain that caused these people to take their lives leaving these cats behind. On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote: Mary Christine thank you so much for posting this, I neglected to do so before people showed up to work on my pc and didn't have access again till this morning. With all of my rescue work, I have heard stories like this before...but it is the first time it happened to me directly that I was trying to save some only to find it was too late. I can only hope it somehow means they perhaps would have had a difficult road ahead and needed to be with their family, but of course that's little consolation and it feels like these people just left them to meet the same fate. Last fall a young friend of my bf's passed away, he was only 37 and left behind 2 sr. cats who were, as with these 3, in the house a while after the death and it was quite a battle getting them healthy again. They were not felv+ cats and these 3 had been in the house with no food or water for 11 days. I am presenting rationalizations but of course my heart doesn't really believe them and wanted them to have a chance. I thank you all for your concern...the rescue work is full of heartbreak, sadly there have been many losses I haven't posted here but should have so they could be added to the bridge list. If it's ok for me to send a list I will do so soon. Thank you all for caring for FELV kitties, as we all know, they are given very limited chances in this world, due to no fault of their own. Every cat deserves love good care for whatever time they have. Heather On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: Thanks MC - sorry to hear this, thanks for working to help them - Gloria On Apr 30, 2009, at 4:04 PM, MaryChristine wrote: special thanks to everyone who has been working on this one all day; we've learned that all three of the kitties were euthanized earlier this afternoon, upon the advice of the shelter veterinarian, who is very well respected in the area; the shelter itself has an excellent reputation as rescue-friendly, the cats were placed on a long-time hold yesterday, and rescuers were contacted this morning. this one does NOT seem to be one of those, oh, no, kill them just because they're FeLV! but terribly sad nevertheless. heather, thank you especially, for trying to do the impossible, and managing to locate others who are as delusional as you! MC ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] UPDATE: Tampa FL: Double suicide leaves 3 FELV+ cats, high kill facility
Heather, of course you should share your losses with us. It's sad, but I think it's really important to acknowledge these little souls. As for the couple who committed suicide, I can't imagine the kind of pain that led them to do this. Times are so very hard right now, and while I feel a lot of hope for the future, the present is what we're living in now and it's pretty sucky. But if you *are* feeling anger toward them, I think that's okay. They had stuff going on, obviously, but they also had three little lives depending on them and they should have made some provision for them, either given them away or even taken them in themselves for a kind death, although of course this is the last resort. Perhaps they thought, like so many apparently do, that the cats would be all right on their own. I can't be angry at these people, but I do resent the way they treated their cats. Sorry you had to do this. You did what you could, which is way more than a lot of folks would. Hugs. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 8:27 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] UPDATE: Tampa FL: Double suicide leaves 3 FELV+ cats,high kill facility Mary Christine thank you so much for posting this, I neglected to do so before people showed up to work on my pc and didn't have access again till this morning. With all of my rescue work, I have heard stories like this before...but it is the first time it happened to me directly that I was trying to save some only to find it was too late. I can only hope it somehow means they perhaps would have had a difficult road ahead and needed to be with their family, but of course that's little consolation and it feels like these people just left them to meet the same fate. Last fall a young friend of my bf's passed away, he was only 37 and left behind 2 sr. cats who were, as with these 3, in the house a while after the death and it was quite a battle getting them healthy again. They were not felv+ cats and these 3 had been in the house with no food or water for 11 days. I am presenting rationalizations but of course my heart doesn't really believe them and wanted them to have a chance. I thank you all for your concern...the rescue work is full of heartbreak, sadly there have been many losses I haven't posted here but should have so they could be added to the bridge list. If it's ok for me to send a list I will do so soon. Thank you all for caring for FELV kitties, as we all know, they are given very limited chances in this world, due to no fault of their own. Every cat deserves love good care for whatever time they have. Heather On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: Thanks MC - sorry to hear this, thanks for working to help them - Gloria On Apr 30, 2009, at 4:04 PM, MaryChristine wrote: special thanks to everyone who has been working on this one all day; we've learned that all three of the kitties were euthanized earlier this afternoon, upon the advice of the shelter veterinarian, who is very well respected in the area; the shelter itself has an excellent reputation as rescue-friendly, the cats were placed on a long-time hold yesterday, and rescuers were contacted this morning. this one does NOT seem to be one of those, oh, no, kill them just because they're FeLV! but terribly sad nevertheless. heather, thank you especially, for trying to do the impossible, and managing to locate others who are as delusional as you! MC ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] UPDATE: Tampa FL: Double suicide leaves 3 FELV+ cats, high kill facility
Heather, I have several feelings around this. Sadness, anger, frustration, compassion. This couple was likely not thinking straight about the future or their kitties when they took their own lives. I can never know what is in someone else's mind or heart. I do know that I have feelings that are legitimate and that feelings are not facts and underlying my own feelings is FEAR. Bless you for what you did to try to help these kitties. I totally relate to your email about figuring out what I can do to help and knowing my limitations. I can't do hands on help anymore, either. Take care, Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 8:30 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] UPDATE: Tampa FL: Double suicide leaves 3 FELV+ cats, high kill facility I hope I didn't sound angry in my post (angry towards the couple who committed suicide)I have dealt with severe depression my whole lifewhen I have those thoughts though I know I have so many precious little lives who need me. I do however regret the pain that caused these people to take their lives leaving these cats behind. On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote: Mary Christine thank you so much for posting this, I neglected to do so before people showed up to work on my pc and didn't have access again till this morning. With all of my rescue work, I have heard stories like this before...but it is the first time it happened to me directly that I was trying to save some only to find it was too late. I can only hope it somehow means they perhaps would have had a difficult road ahead and needed to be with their family, but of course that's little consolation and it feels like these people just left them to meet the same fate. Last fall a young friend of my bf's passed away, he was only 37 and left behind 2 sr. cats who were, as with these 3, in the house a while after the death and it was quite a battle getting them healthy again. They were not felv+ cats and these 3 had been in the house with no food or water for 11 days. I am presenting rationalizations but of course my heart doesn't really believe them and wanted them to have a chance. I thank you all for your concern...the rescue work is full of heartbreak, sadly there have been many losses I haven't posted here but should have so they could be added to the bridge list. If it's ok for me to send a list I will do so soon. Thank you all for caring for FELV kitties, as we all know, they are given very limited chances in this world, due to no fault of their own. Every cat deserves love good care for whatever time they have. Heather On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: Thanks MC - sorry to hear this, thanks for working to help them - Gloria On Apr 30, 2009, at 4:04 PM, MaryChristine wrote: special thanks to everyone who has been working on this one all day; we've learned that all three of the kitties were euthanized earlier this afternoon, upon the advice of the shelter veterinarian, who is very well respected in the area; the shelter itself has an excellent reputation as rescue-friendly, the cats were placed on a long-time hold yesterday, and rescuers were contacted this morning. this one does NOT seem to be one of those, oh, no, kill them just because they're FeLV! but terribly sad nevertheless. heather, thank you especially, for trying to do the impossible, and managing to locate others who are as delusional as you! MC ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] UPDATE: Tampa FL: Double suicide leaves 3 FELV+ cats, high kill facility
special thanks to everyone who has been working on this one all day; we've learned that all three of the kitties were euthanized earlier this afternoon, upon the advice of the shelter veterinarian, who is very well respected in the area; the shelter itself has an excellent reputation as rescue-friendly, the cats were placed on a long-time hold yesterday, and rescuers were contacted this morning. this one does NOT seem to be one of those, oh, no, kill them just because they're FeLV! but terribly sad nevertheless. heather, thank you especially, for trying to do the impossible, and managing to locate others who are as delusional as you! MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] UPDATE: Tampa FL: Double suicide leaves 3 FELV+ cats, high kill facility
Thanks MC - sorry to hear this, thanks for working to help them - Gloria On Apr 30, 2009, at 4:04 PM, MaryChristine wrote: special thanks to everyone who has been working on this one all day; we've learned that all three of the kitties were euthanized earlier this afternoon, upon the advice of the shelter veterinarian, who is very well respected in the area; the shelter itself has an excellent reputation as rescue-friendly, the cats were placed on a long-time hold yesterday, and rescuers were contacted this morning. this one does NOT seem to be one of those, oh, no, kill them just because they're FeLV! but terribly sad nevertheless. heather, thank you especially, for trying to do the impossible, and managing to locate others who are as delusional as you! MC ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] UPDATE: Tampa FL: Double suicide leaves 3 FELV+ cats, high kill facility
How very sad for all concerned. Gentle Bridge vibes to all these troubled souls, human and feline. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] UPDATE: Tampa FL: Double suicide leaves 3 FELV+ cats,high kill facility Thanks MC - sorry to hear this, thanks for working to help them - Gloria On Apr 30, 2009, at 4:04 PM, MaryChristine wrote: special thanks to everyone who has been working on this one all day; we've learned that all three of the kitties were euthanized earlier this afternoon, upon the advice of the shelter veterinarian, who is very well respected in the area; the shelter itself has an excellent reputation as rescue-friendly, the cats were placed on a long-time hold yesterday, and rescuers were contacted this morning. this one does NOT seem to be one of those, oh, no, kill them just because they're FeLV! but terribly sad nevertheless. heather, thank you especially, for trying to do the impossible, and managing to locate others who are as delusional as you! MC ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte
Heheheheheohai, MC! Are you all settled in? Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:17:28 -0400 From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte good to know you feel that way, mom--will make sure there's a DNR order in your file! 2009/4/20 Debbie Harrison dlh1...@hotmail.com LOL, I have actually made that kind of reply to people before...Really? Well, if you ever get sick, I'll just have you put down to save moneythanks!... Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King From: maima...@duo-county.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:43:08 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte Ask your mother if she would like to be put down under the circumstances. Don't let her get you down. You did wonderfully. No matter how it turns out, Charlotte is a very lucky cat and she knows it. On Apr 19, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Laura Mostello wrote: I brought Charlotte back to the vet yesterday. She still wasn't doing well, just nibbling at her food and appearing very lethargic. Since I wasn't especially happy with my vet's response to her, I tried another clinic that I'd heard good things about, just to get a second opinion. Dr. Ray took more blood and told me that Charlotte was indeed very anemic - her PCV was 9% versus about 40% for a healthy young adult cat. So I was a little ticked off that my regular vet didn't tell me just how anemic she was, and a week had gone by when something else could have been done. The vet was concerned about tumors but X-rays showed nothing. He recommended that a blood transfusion be done immediately, so he packed up his 22 pound donor cat and I brought both cats to North Fulton emergency center since they were just down the road Dr Ray's office was closing for the day. I picked Charlotte up at 11:30 last night (lots of coffee was needed since it was an hour and a half drive) and she was so hungry! She started chowing down right away. She now has doxycycline and Prednisilone twice a day. Now we just have to wait for the rest of the test results to come back. I'll keep you all updated. Thank goodness for Visait was almost $900 yesterday. My mom asked me, Why didn't you just put her down? but I couldn't. She doesn't want to die. She's purring and rolling over to be petted and even yesterday when she didn't feel good she was going up to everybody and looking for attention. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte
Laura, believe me when I say that many of us are in the same financial boat! But I wouldnt do anything different...these babies are MY responsibility, and I will do everything I can for them. I'm glad Charlotte is feeling better...don't worry, she'll eat more as she improves. Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 14:05:58 -0700 From: hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte I've thought about checking it out, but I've met a few people who have been turned down by Care Credit lately for no obvious reason. I suppose the rotting posts on the front porch won't be fixed this year, and forget about painting the dining room. That's the most I've ever spent in one day on a vet visit. And that's in addition to the $600 spent last week on Tabby's teeth cleaning, Charlotte's initial exam, testing and meds and 2 neuters. Charlotte already is more active and is walking around the turtle room. She still isn't eating as much as I'd like, but she just seems so more normal now. And I really liked the vet we saw yesterday (Dr Michael Ray at the Cat Clinic of Roswell in Roswell, GA, for all you Georgians on the list). I think we've found a new vet. --- On Sun, 4/19/09, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote: From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Laura Mostello hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com Date: Sunday, April 19, 2009, 11:06 AM Laura, hang in there as long as you can and if they have Care Credit in your area, try it instead of Visa. you don't have to pay interest if you pay it off wihtin a year. you can reach them at www.geoonlineservice.com or 1-866-893-7864. they have gotten me thru a couple of $600.00 bills and a big dental bill. i don't know if they are in your area or your vet uses them, but would be worth a try. dorlis Laura Mostello hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com wrote: I brought Charlotte back to the vet yesterday. She still wasn't doing well, just nibbling at her food and appearing very lethargic. Since I wasn't especially happy with my vet's response to her, I tried another clinic that I'd heard good things about, just to get a second opinion. Dr. Ray took more blood and told me that Charlotte was indeed very anemic - her PCV was 9% versus about 40% for a healthy young adult cat. So I was a little ticked off that my regular vet didn't tell me just how anemic she was, and a week had gone by when something else could have been done. The vet was concerned about tumors but X-rays showed nothing. He recommended that a blood transfusion be done immediately, so he packed up his 22 pound donor cat and I brought both cats to North Fulton emergency center since they were just down the road Dr Ray's office was closing for the day. I picked Charlotte up at 11:30 last night (lots of coffee was needed since it was an hour and a half drive) and she was so hungry! She started chowing down right away. She now has doxycycline and Prednisilone twice a day. Now we just have to wait for the rest of the test results to come back. I'll keep you all updated. Thank goodness for Visait was almost $900 yesterday. My mom asked me, Why didn't you just put her down? but I couldn't. She doesn't want to die. She's purring and rolling over to be petted and even yesterday when she didn't feel good she was going up to everybody and looking for attention. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ More than messages–check out the rest of the Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte
LOL, I have actually made that kind of reply to people before...Really? Well, if you ever get sick, I'll just have you put down to save moneythanks!... Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King From: maima...@duo-county.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:43:08 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte Ask your mother if she would like to be put down under the circumstances. Don't let her get you down. You did wonderfully. No matter how it turns out, Charlotte is a very lucky cat and she knows it. On Apr 19, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Laura Mostello wrote: I brought Charlotte back to the vet yesterday. She still wasn't doing well, just nibbling at her food and appearing very lethargic. Since I wasn't especially happy with my vet's response to her, I tried another clinic that I'd heard good things about, just to get a second opinion. Dr. Ray took more blood and told me that Charlotte was indeed very anemic - her PCV was 9% versus about 40% for a healthy young adult cat. So I was a little ticked off that my regular vet didn't tell me just how anemic she was, and a week had gone by when something else could have been done. The vet was concerned about tumors but X-rays showed nothing. He recommended that a blood transfusion be done immediately, so he packed up his 22 pound donor cat and I brought both cats to North Fulton emergency center since they were just down the road Dr Ray's office was closing for the day. I picked Charlotte up at 11:30 last night (lots of coffee was needed since it was an hour and a half drive) and she was so hungry! She started chowing down right away. She now has doxycycline and Prednisilone twice a day. Now we just have to wait for the rest of the test results to come back. I'll keep you all updated. Thank goodness for Visait was almost $900 yesterday. My mom asked me, Why didn't you just put her down? but I couldn't. She doesn't want to die. She's purring and rolling over to be petted and even yesterday when she didn't feel good she was going up to everybody and looking for attention. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte
good to know you feel that way, mom--will make sure there's a DNR order in your file! 2009/4/20 Debbie Harrison dlh1...@hotmail.com LOL, I have actually made that kind of reply to people before...Really? Well, if you ever get sick, I'll just have you put down to save moneythanks!... Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King From: maima...@duo-county.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:43:08 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte Ask your mother if she would like to be put down under the circumstances. Don't let her get you down. You did wonderfully. No matter how it turns out, Charlotte is a very lucky cat and she knows it. On Apr 19, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Laura Mostello wrote: I brought Charlotte back to the vet yesterday. She still wasn't doing well, just nibbling at her food and appearing very lethargic. Since I wasn't especially happy with my vet's response to her, I tried another clinic that I'd heard good things about, just to get a second opinion. Dr. Ray took more blood and told me that Charlotte was indeed very anemic - her PCV was 9% versus about 40% for a healthy young adult cat. So I was a little ticked off that my regular vet didn't tell me just how anemic she was, and a week had gone by when something else could have been done. The vet was concerned about tumors but X-rays showed nothing. He recommended that a blood transfusion be done immediately, so he packed up his 22 pound donor cat and I brought both cats to North Fulton emergency center since they were just down the road Dr Ray's office was closing for the day. I picked Charlotte up at 11:30 last night (lots of coffee was needed since it was an hour and a half drive) and she was so hungry! She started chowing down right away. She now has doxycycline and Prednisilone twice a day. Now we just have to wait for the rest of the test results to come back. I'll keep you all updated. Thank goodness for Visait was almost $900 yesterday. My mom asked me, Why didn't you just put her down? but I couldn't. She doesn't want to die. She's purring and rolling over to be petted and even yesterday when she didn't feel good she was going up to everybody and looking for attention. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte
I brought Charlotte back to the vet yesterday. She still wasn't doing well, just nibbling at her food and appearing very lethargic. Since I wasn't especially happy with my vet's response to her, I tried another clinic that I'd heard good things about, just to get a second opinion. Dr. Ray took more blood and told me that Charlotte was indeed very anemic - her PCV was 9% versus about 40% for a healthy young adult cat. So I was a little ticked off that my regular vet didn't tell me just how anemic she was, and a week had gone by when something else could have been done. The vet was concerned about tumors but X-rays showed nothing. He recommended that a blood transfusion be done immediately, so he packed up his 22 pound donor cat and I brought both cats to North Fulton emergency center since they were just down the road Dr Ray's office was closing for the day. I picked Charlotte up at 11:30 last night (lots of coffee was needed since it was an hour and a half drive) and she was so hungry! She started chowing down right away. She now has doxycycline and Prednisilone twice a day. Now we just have to wait for the rest of the test results to come back. I'll keep you all updated. Thank goodness for Visait was almost $900 yesterday. My mom asked me, Why didn't you just put her down? but I couldn't. She doesn't want to die. She's purring and rolling over to be petted and even yesterday when she didn't feel good she was going up to everybody and looking for attention. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Re Update on Charlotte
Hi Laura, Thanks for the update on Charlotte. I'm so glad she is doing better now after her tranfusion, but egads what a vet bill!!! Your mom sounds like mine (God rest her soul). She was always upset about the money I spent on my cats, and she always suggested I put them to sleep. Lorrie On 04-19, Laura Mostello wrote: I brought Charlotte back to the vet yesterday. She still wasn't doing well, just nibbling at her food and appearing very lethargic. Since I wasn't especially happy with my vet's response to her, I tried another clinic that I'd heard good things about, just to get a second opinion. Dr. Ray took more blood and told me that Charlotte was indeed very anemic - her PCV was 9% versus about 40% for a healthy young adult cat. So I was a little ticked off that my regular vet didn't tell me just how anemic she was, and a week had gone by when something else could have been done. The vet was concerned about tumors but X-rays showed nothing. He recommended that a blood transfusion be done immediately, so he packed up his 22 pound donor cat and I brought both cats to North Fulton emergency center since they were just down the road Dr Ray's office was closing for the day. I picked Charlotte up at 11:30 last night (lots of coffee was needed since it was an hour and a half drive) and she was so hungry! She started chowing down right away. She now has doxycycline and Prednisilone twice a day. Now we just have to wait for the rest of the test results to come back. I'll keep you all updated. Thank goodness for Visait was almost $900 yesterday. My mom asked me, Why didn't you just put her down? but I couldn't. She doesn't want to die. She's purring and rolling over to be petted and even yesterday when she didn't feel good she was going up to everybody and looking for attention. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte
Laura, hang in there as long as you can and if they have Care Credit in your area, try it instead of Visa. you don't have to pay interest if you pay it off wihtin a year. you can reach them at www.geoonlineservice.com or 1-866-893-7864. they have gotten me thru a couple of $600.00 bills and a big dental bill. i don't know if they are in your area or your vet uses them, but would be worth a try. dorlis Laura Mostello hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com wrote: I brought Charlotte back to the vet yesterday. She still wasn't doing well, just nibbling at her food and appearing very lethargic. Since I wasn't especially happy with my vet's response to her, I tried another clinic that I'd heard good things about, just to get a second opinion. Dr. Ray took more blood and told me that Charlotte was indeed very anemic - her PCV was 9% versus about 40% for a healthy young adult cat. So I was a little ticked off that my regular vet didn't tell me just how anemic she was, and a week had gone by when something else could have been done. The vet was concerned about tumors but X-rays showed nothing. He recommended that a blood transfusion be done immediately, so he packed up his 22 pound donor cat and I brought both cats to North Fulton emergency center since they were just down the road Dr Ray's office was closing for the day. I picked Charlotte up at 11:30 last night (lots of coffee was needed since it was an hour and a half drive) and she was so hungry! She started chowing down right away. She now has doxycycline and Prednisilone twice a day. Now we just have to wait for the rest of the test results to come back. I'll keep you all updated. Thank goodness for Visait was almost $900 yesterday. My mom asked me, Why didn't you just put her down? but I couldn't. She doesn't want to die. She's purring and rolling over to be petted and even yesterday when she didn't feel good she was going up to everybody and looking for attention. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte
Laura, bravo for finding a different vet! And a huge HOORAY for Miss Charlotte Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 07:02:26 -0700 From: hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte I brought Charlotte back to the vet yesterday. She still wasn't doing well, just nibbling at her food and appearing very lethargic. Since I wasn't especially happy with my vet's response to her, I tried another clinic that I'd heard good things about, just to get a second opinion. Dr. Ray took more blood and told me that Charlotte was indeed very anemic - her PCV was 9% versus about 40% for a healthy young adult cat. So I was a little ticked off that my regular vet didn't tell me just how anemic she was, and a week had gone by when something else could have been done. The vet was concerned about tumors but X-rays showed nothing. He recommended that a blood transfusion be done immediately, so he packed up his 22 pound donor cat and I brought both cats to North Fulton emergency center since they were just down the road Dr Ray's office was closing for the day. I picked Charlotte up at 11:30 last night (lots of coffee was needed since it was an hour and a half drive) and she was so hungry! She started chowing down right away. She now has doxycycline and Prednisilone twice a day. Now we just have to wait for the rest of the test results to come back. I'll keep you all updated. Thank goodness for Visait was almost $900 yesterday. My mom asked me, Why didn't you just put her down? but I couldn't. She doesn't want to die. She's purring and rolling over to be petted and even yesterday when she didn't feel good she was going up to everybody and looking for attention. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Show them the way! Add maps and directions to your party invites. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/events.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte
I've thought about checking it out, but I've met a few people who have been turned down by Care Credit lately for no obvious reason. I suppose the rotting posts on the front porch won't be fixed this year, and forget about painting the dining room. That's the most I've ever spent in one day on a vet visit. And that's in addition to the $600 spent last week on Tabby's teeth cleaning, Charlotte's initial exam, testing and meds and 2 neuters. Charlotte already is more active and is walking around the turtle room. She still isn't eating as much as I'd like, but she just seems so more normal now. And I really liked the vet we saw yesterday (Dr Michael Ray at the Cat Clinic of Roswell in Roswell, GA, for all you Georgians on the list). I think we've found a new vet. --- On Sun, 4/19/09, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote: From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Laura Mostello hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com Date: Sunday, April 19, 2009, 11:06 AM Laura, hang in there as long as you can and if they have Care Credit in your area, try it instead of Visa. you don't have to pay interest if you pay it off wihtin a year. you can reach them at www.geoonlineservice.com or 1-866-893-7864. they have gotten me thru a couple of $600.00 bills and a big dental bill. i don't know if they are in your area or your vet uses them, but would be worth a try. dorlis Laura Mostello hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com wrote: I brought Charlotte back to the vet yesterday. She still wasn't doing well, just nibbling at her food and appearing very lethargic. Since I wasn't especially happy with my vet's response to her, I tried another clinic that I'd heard good things about, just to get a second opinion. Dr. Ray took more blood and told me that Charlotte was indeed very anemic - her PCV was 9% versus about 40% for a healthy young adult cat. So I was a little ticked off that my regular vet didn't tell me just how anemic she was, and a week had gone by when something else could have been done. The vet was concerned about tumors but X-rays showed nothing. He recommended that a blood transfusion be done immediately, so he packed up his 22 pound donor cat and I brought both cats to North Fulton emergency center since they were just down the road Dr Ray's office was closing for the day. I picked Charlotte up at 11:30 last night (lots of coffee was needed since it was an hour and a half drive) and she was so hungry! She started chowing down right away. She now has doxycycline and Prednisilone twice a day. Now we just have to wait for the rest of the test results to come back. I'll keep you all updated. Thank goodness for Visait was almost $900 yesterday. My mom asked me, Why didn't you just put her down? but I couldn't. She doesn't want to die. She's purring and rolling over to be petted and even yesterday when she didn't feel good she was going up to everybody and looking for attention. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte
Ask your mother if she would like to be put down under the circumstances. Don't let her get you down. You did wonderfully. No matter how it turns out, Charlotte is a very lucky cat and she knows it. On Apr 19, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Laura Mostello wrote: I brought Charlotte back to the vet yesterday. She still wasn't doing well, just nibbling at her food and appearing very lethargic. Since I wasn't especially happy with my vet's response to her, I tried another clinic that I'd heard good things about, just to get a second opinion. Dr. Ray took more blood and told me that Charlotte was indeed very anemic - her PCV was 9% versus about 40% for a healthy young adult cat. So I was a little ticked off that my regular vet didn't tell me just how anemic she was, and a week had gone by when something else could have been done. The vet was concerned about tumors but X-rays showed nothing. He recommended that a blood transfusion be done immediately, so he packed up his 22 pound donor cat and I brought both cats to North Fulton emergency center since they were just down the road Dr Ray's office was closing for the day. I picked Charlotte up at 11:30 last night (lots of coffee was needed since it was an hour and a half drive) and she was so hungry! She started chowing down right away. She now has doxycycline and Prednisilone twice a day. Now we just have to wait for the rest of the test results to come back. I'll keep you all updated. Thank goodness for Visait was almost $900 yesterday. My mom asked me, Why didn't you just put her down? but I couldn't. She doesn't want to die. She's purring and rolling over to be petted and even yesterday when she didn't feel good she was going up to everybody and looking for attention. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Arlene update 1
This is the update I received on the CatForum regarding the situation with Arlene. It is too long for one post so I have broken it into two. *** Dear Sue I wanted to give you an update and also a big thank you for the donations that came for Arlene. A little background on Arlene. She has been working with us for 3 years doing S/N of feral cats that appear and live in her back yard. She has a deep love for animals esp the ferals. Her area is a prime dumping ground for cats and dogs. Its very sad and nothing was being done till Paws Patrol started doing TNR there. Arlene lives in a small funky Arizona town called Arivaca. Its out in the middle of nowhere near the border of Mexico It’s filled with colorful characters who move there because it is an inexpensive (and isolated) place to live. There are retired people on very limited incomes, Mexican trailer park (where they don’t speak English. We have to put flyers up in Spanish when we are going to do trapping). Old hippies have settle there. There are meth houses there too Well you get the picture. Last year her husband was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. The doctors wanted to do chemo and surgery. So we had to do a big sweep of all the kittens in the backyard. (That is how I ended up with 10 kittens suddenly. That was a story in its self.) Her husband ended up dieing several weeks later. Which left her strapped with medical bills and loss of his retirement income portion which put her house into foreclosure when her meager savings were used up to pay bills. It’s so very sad. The nice part of all this is when we found out she had been buying her own indoor animals food with her food stamps we knew we had to help her. It was like it took a life of its own. People could finally put a face to all the woes going on in this economy. I called a friend of mine who had adopted a kitten I had fostered from her yard and asked them if they like to donate a bag of cat food to Arlene in their beloved crazy Chili Beans honor. They said absolutely yes! And brought me up $ for her. They told another friend and they donated too. Another friend of mine was talking at lunch to her co-workers and boss about what was happening. The boss gave her a hundred dollar bill and said give this to Arlene cuz Im sure there are things food stamps wont cover and I’m want her to use it on herself Others went out and brought us food and litter and dog food. It was amazing and I’m choking up just typing and recounting it all in my mind to tell you. ** End of part 1 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Arlene update 1
This is the update I received on the CatForum regarding the situation with Arlene. It is too long for one post so I have broken it into two. *** Dear Sue I wanted to give you an update and also a big thank you for the donations that came for Arlene. A little background on Arlene. She has been working with us for 3 years doing S/N of feral cats that appear and live in her back yard. She has a deep love for animals esp the ferals. Her area is a prime dumping ground for cats and dogs. Its very sad and nothing was being done till Paws Patrol started doing TNR there. Arlene lives in a small funky Arizona town called Arivaca. Its out in the middle of nowhere near the border of Mexico It’s filled with colorful characters who move there because it is an inexpensive (and isolated) place to live. There are retired people on very limited incomes, Mexican trailer park (where they don’t speak English. We have to put flyers up in Spanish when we are going to do trapping). Old hippies have settle there. There are meth houses there too Well you get the picture. Last year her husband was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. The doctors wanted to do chemo and surgery. So we had to do a big sweep of all the kittens in the backyard. (That is how I ended up with 10 kittens suddenly. That was a story in its self.) Her husband ended up dieing several weeks later. Which left her strapped with medical bills and loss of his retirement income portion which put her house into foreclosure when her meager savings were used up to pay bills. It’s so very sad. The nice part of all this is when we found out she had been buying her own indoor animals food with her food stamps we knew we had to help her. It was like it took a life of its own. People could finally put a face to all the woes going on in this economy. I called a friend of mine who had adopted a kitten I had fostered from her yard and asked them if they like to donate a bag of cat food to Arlene in their beloved crazy Chili Beans honor. They said absolutely yes! And brought me up $ for her. They told another friend and they donated too. Another friend of mine was talking at lunch to her co-workers and boss about what was happening. The boss gave her a hundred dollar bill and said give this to Arlene cuz Im sure there are things food stamps wont cover and I’m want her to use it on herself Others went out and brought us food and litter and dog food. It was amazing and I’m choking up just typing and recounting it all in my mind to tell you. ** End of part 1 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Arlene update 2
Arlene update part 2 ** We had been supplying her with food for the ferals we TNR in her backyard. She knows each one and who the new ones are that appear. We also let Arlene know to contact us if she needs food for her indoor kitties. Not to take it out of her food stamps anymore. We brought her a bunch of cat food, dog food and kitty litter. Also we arrange with the local vet that Arlene could bring any of her indoor companion animals in to see him and be treated. We would cover the bill. Which she has now done. I know this wont stop her house going into foreclosure and we have to find a place for over 20 + ferals but she had a little weight lifted off her burden and was so very touched at everyone reaching out to her. I’m sure she felt forgotten and abandoned when her husband died. She told us it was caring for the ferals and her own indoor pets that has gotten her thru after her husbands death. Sue you and your friends who reached out and pay pal donations touched her life in a big way. It didn’t solve her housing dilemma but lightened her load and let her know she is cared about and people appreciate her efforts and love for the cats. There are no government agencies or united way or any of the common organizations down where she is. But alas it’s the goodness of people that love and give that helped her. Sue I was so touched at your kindness and wanting to help. I wanted to let you know it really did help. So far apx $800 have come in and we have it in a special fund to meet her vet needs and food needs as long as it lasts. In gratitude and love Merry PS Arlene had to turn her phone off. My director drove down to bring her more food and give her the $100. She had mentioned to us that 3 pregnant females had wandered into her yard and were living there. When Patti was talking to her on her front porch one of the females was giving birth to kittens right then!! Patti called us to let us know kitten season has officially started!!! *** Thank you everyone for your support and for your thoughts and prayers. Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Arlene update 2 for Sue
Hi. I missed earlier posts and would like to donate. Is someone going to try to get those other 2 preg females spayed or are there objections to that? Her population could double with 3 litters. Laurie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Arlene update 2 for Sue
Hi Laurie, Here is the website Merry gave me for donations: I work with Paws Patrol of Green Valley. We have a website with pay pal if that would be convenient to donate there. http://greenvalleypawspatrol.org/ Be sure and mention it is for Arlene. Her group does TNR in that area and I'm pretty sure they will take care of getting the girls spayed. Thank you, Sue Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: Hi. I missed earlier posts and would like to donate. Is someone going to try to get those other 2 preg females spayed or are there objections to that? Her population could double with 3 litters. Laurie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Further update on Tofu :-)
Bless you for giving Tofu a loving home. Sharyl --- On Mon, 1/26/09, Emily Hunter emilyofw...@aol.com wrote: From: Emily Hunter emilyofw...@aol.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Further update on Tofu :-) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, January 26, 2009, 9:08 PM After our Denzel died, I wasn't sure that I wanted to stay subscribed to the list since he was our only positive. I decided to stay on because I felt like another positive would come into our lives. Well, I'm a spiritual person, and it really seemed like at least a nudge from God when Kelley was writing about Tofu in Austin which, by Texas standards, is pretty close to where I live. Anyway, last Thursday this beautiful little girl came home with me :-) We're still in the adjustment period, but so far she and the other kitties are cautiously getting to know each other. (One of our others is about the same age as Tofu and they've had some fun chasing each other.) We should be having a wellness visit with the vet soon, to decide what kind of preventive treatment to start her on; unlike Denzel, who was pretty symptomatic his whole life, she doesn't seem sick at all. So a question for those who have dealt with a combo positive - is there anything special I need to be looking out for with the added FIV? From Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Further update on Tofu cont'd
Emily, congrats to you and Tofu for having found each other, and to Kelley for babysitting until you did! Here's vibes that you have a long and happy life with each other. FIV is much less problematic than FeLV; often an FIV+ cat can live out its full lifespan asymptomatically, and since FIV is much harder to transmit (basically deep puncture wounds and sex) speutering should take care of the biggest risk factors. And yes, keeping them healthy is pretty much the same as with an FeLV+ kitty. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emily Hunter Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 8:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Further update on Tofu cont'd Sorry, my mom was talking at me and I accidently hit send - anyway, I was going to say that from what I've read, it seems like the felv may be worse to deal with than the fiv, and that the precautions for both are about the same. If anyone knows anything different, please share! Thanks! -Emily Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Further update on Tofu cont'd
This would be purely anecdoctal on one experience, but, we got a Mom (double+) and her 4 kittens in March/April of 2007...she has outlived all of her kittens, though she's also outlived other Leuk+ rescues we've gotten within that time. Other than the fact that kittens born with FELV generally have much shorter lifespans (seems some on this list have had the major exceptions to that), seems those infected as adults, really just depends on the individual cat. Of those 4 kittens we caught at 6 weeks of age, 2 were also double+, 2 only FIV+...all went on to clear the FIV, but all remained or went + for FELV (and were retested a few times months apart). Just in case this experience is of interest... On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Rosenfeldt, Diane d...@quarles.com wrote: Emily, congrats to you and Tofu for having found each other, and to Kelley for babysitting until you did! Here's vibes that you have a long and happy life with each other. FIV is much less problematic than FeLV; often an FIV+ cat can live out its full lifespan asymptomatically, and since FIV is much harder to transmit (basically deep puncture wounds and sex) speutering should take care of the biggest risk factors. And yes, keeping them healthy is pretty much the same as with an FeLV+ kitty. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emily Hunter Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 8:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Further update on Tofu cont'd Sorry, my mom was talking at me and I accidently hit send - anyway, I was going to say that from what I've read, it seems like the felv may be worse to deal with than the fiv, and that the precautions for both are about the same. If anyone knows anything different, please share! Thanks! -Emily Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Further update on Tofu :-)
After our Denzel died, I wasn't sure that I wanted to stay subscribed to the list since he was our only positive. I decided to stay on because I felt like another positive would come into our lives. Well, I'm a spiritual person, and it really seemed like at least a nudge from God when Kelley was writing about Tofu in Austin which, by Texas standards, is pretty close to where I live. Anyway, last Thursday this beautiful little girl came home with me :-) We're still in the adjustment period, but so far she and the other kitties are cautiously getting to know each other. (One of our others is about the same age as Tofu and they've had some fun chasing each other.) We should be having a wellness visit with the vet soon, to decide what kind of preventive treatment to start her on; unlike Denzel, who was pretty symptomatic his whole life, she doesn't seem sick at all. So a question for those who have dealt with a combo positive - is there anything special I need to be looking out for with the added FIV? From Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Further update on Tofu cont'd
Sorry, my mom was talking at me and I accidently hit send - anyway, I was going to say that from what I've read, it seems like the felv may be worse to deal with than the fiv, and that the precautions for both are about the same. If anyone knows anything different, please share! Thanks! -Emily Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Further update on Tofu cont'd
You are right about the Felv being worse than FIV. I think precaustions would be about the same. There is another group and FIV group that has files on double positives. You may want to join that group as well. There are several people who were on this group and now on that group as well. Thanks you for taking this cat into your life. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/fiv-healthscience/ Sally On 1/26/09, Emily Hunter emilyofw...@aol.com wrote: Sorry, my mom was talking at me and I accidently hit send - anyway, I was going to say that from what I've read, it seems like the felv may be worse to deal with than the fiv, and that the precautions for both are about the same. If anyone knows anything different, please share! Thanks! -Emily Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Sally(me), Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soul mate angel), Lionel(angel),Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior, Hotdog (newest) Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Further update on Tofu :-)
Congratulations on your new family member! tonya Emily Hunter emilyofw...@aol.com wrote: After our Denzel died, I wasn't sure that I wanted to stay subscribed to the list since he was our only positive. I decided to stay on because I felt like another positive would come into our lives. Well, I'm a spiritual person, and it really seemed like at least a nudge from God when Kelley was writing about Tofu in Austin which, by Texas standards, is pretty close to where I live. Anyway, last Thursday this beautiful little girl came home with me :-) We're still in the adjustment period, but so far she and the other kitties are cautiously getting to know each other. (One of our others is about the same age as Tofu and they've had some fun chasing each other.) We should be having a wellness visit with the vet soon, to decide what kind of preventive treatment to start her on; unlike Denzel, who was pretty symptomatic his whole life, she doesn't seem sick at all. So a question for those who have dealt with a combo positive - is there anything special I need to be looking out for with the added FIV? From Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Further update on Tofu :-)
Tofu is the cutest girl, and I really want to thank Emily for giving her such a good home. We were first boarding her at the vet, and then keeping her in a bathroom, and she was not happy. I know you can mix cats, but most of our fosters have some sort of special needs cat that is immune compromised and it is contraindicated to vaccinate them. So we were just crossing our fingers we could get a sanctuary placement, and even then a home is so much better! So thanks Emily for giving this special little girl a real home, and I hope you bring each other many years of joy:) On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:31 PM, catatonya catato...@yahoo.com wrote: Congratulations on your new family member! tonya Emily Hunter emilyofw...@aol.com wrote: After our Denzel died, I wasn't sure that I wanted to stay subscribed to the list since he was our only positive. I decided to stay on because I felt like another positive would come into our lives. Well, I'm a spiritual person, and it really seemed like at least a nudge from God when Kelley was writing about Tofu in Austin which, by Texas standards, is pretty close to where I live. Anyway, last Thursday this beautiful little girl came home with me :-) We're still in the adjustment period, but so far she and the other kitties are cautiously getting to know each other. (One of our others is about the same age as Tofu and they've had some fun chasing each other.) We should be having a wellness visit with the vet soon, to decide what kind of preventive treatment to start her on; unlike Denzel, who was pretty symptomatic his whole life, she doesn't seem sick at all. So a question for those who have dealt with a combo positive - is there anything special I need to be looking out for with the added FIV? From Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help Tofu - combo positive! http://rescuties.chipin.com/tofu Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Tofu update!
Hi guys, I wanted to give everyone an update on Tofu. First, she did test pos on the IFA:( But what is really really good is that she is going to a real home - not a sanctuary but a HOME - she's being adopted! Please don't contribute anything else to her (a big thank you to those who did and thank you letters will go out soon) but we do not need any more money for her. I will put another cat in need on my sig line soon, I'm sure there will be one. This group is so awesome! Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help Tofu - combo positive! http://rescuties.chipin.com/tofu Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tofu update!
:) YAY!! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 11:28 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tofu update! CONGRATULATIONS, TOFU! I hope you have a great life at your forever home! Great work, Kelley! Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 10:48 AM To: felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] Tofu update! Hi guys, I wanted to give everyone an update on Tofu. First, she did test pos on the IFA:( But what is really really good is that she is going to a real home - not a sanctuary but a HOME - she's being adopted! Please don't contribute anything else to her (a big thank you to those who did and thank you letters will go out soon) but we do not need any more money for her. I will put another cat in need on my sig line soon, I'm sure there will be one. This group is so awesome! Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help Tofu - combo positive! http://rescuties.chipin.com/tofu Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Tommy
That's great news Lisa! I'm dealing with 3 cats that are very ill, and they are all my negatives. (Knock on wood.) My positive is fat and sassy and doing fine. She's especially enjoying all the treats I've been using trying to get my 3 sick ones to eat and take med.s. lol. tonya Lisa Borden tuckerandtes...@zoominternet.net wrote: My FeLV+ kitten, Tommy, continues to do wonderfully! He is active and playful, and has a tremendous appetite. He will be neutered on January 29th - his holistic vet said to continue to give him the DMG to help his immune system with the stress of surgery. She also gave him a probiotic to help his bowels when he is on an antibiotic. This is so much different from what I thought it would be like to have an FeLV kitten! I understand we are very lucky, and for that I am grateful. His holistic vet says that after the surgery, once he is stress free again, we can retest him for FeLV. Lisa ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Re Update on Tommy
Hi Tonya, Do you think your negatives could have turned positive? I worry all the time about my 9 month old kitten who was negative when I brought him home, because he was exposed to his litter mates and 4 of them have already died from FelV. So far he is doing well, but I still worry. What is wrong with your three? Lorrie On 01-11, catatonya wrote: I'm dealing with 3 cats that are very ill, and they are all my negatives. (Knock on wood.) My positive is fat and sassy and doing fine. She's especially enjoying all the treats I've been using trying to get my 3 sick ones to eat and take med.s. lol. tonya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Re Update on Tommy
No. They are retested everytime they get sick and are always negative. My cats are just old. One has crf, the other hyperthyroid, and the other herpes. They have all tested negative to rule that out. I've had many cats come and go (from things other than felv). I've never had one get felv from one of my positives. I guess I'm going on toward 15 years by now. tonya Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: Hi Tonya, Do you think your negatives could have turned positive? I worry all the time about my 9 month old kitten who was negative when I brought him home, because he was exposed to his litter mates and 4 of them have already died from FelV. So far he is doing well, but I still worry. What is wrong with your three? Lorrie On 01-11, catatonya wrote: I'm dealing with 3 cats that are very ill, and they are all my negatives. (Knock on wood.) My positive is fat and sassy and doing fine. She's especially enjoying all the treats I've been using trying to get my 3 sick ones to eat and take med.s. lol. tonya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Update on Tommy
My FeLV+ kitten, Tommy, continues to do wonderfully! He is active and playful, and has a tremendous appetite. He will be neutered on January 29th - his holistic vet said to continue to give him the DMG to help his immune system with the stress of surgery. She also gave him a probiotic to help his bowels when he is on an antibiotic. This is so much different from what I thought it would be like to have an FeLV kitten! I understand we are very lucky, and for that I am grateful. His holistic vet says that after the surgery, once he is stress free again, we can retest him for FeLV. Lisa ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Tommy
It's great to hear that he is doing so well. Sounds like you have a good holistic vet, very involved in what is going on with him. Keep loving your little guy! Sue Lisa Borden tuckerandtes...@zoominternet.net wrote: My FeLV+ kitten, Tommy, continues to do wonderfully! He is active and playful, and has a tremendous appetite. He will be neutered on January 29th - his holistic vet said to continue to give him the DMG to help his immune system with the stress of surgery. She also gave him a probiotic to help his bowels when he is on an antibiotic. This is so much different from what I thought it would be like to have an FeLV kitten! I understand we are very lucky, and for that I am grateful. His holistic vet says that after the surgery, once he is stress free again, we can retest him for FeLV. Lisa ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Tommy
Thank you, Sue - and I will keep loving him. He's cuddling with me now, making it hard to type, and I wouldn't have it any other way! His holistic vet is wonderful - I just love her! Lisa On Wed 07/01/09 12:48 PM , Sue Frank Koren fs...@roadrunner.com sent: It's great to hear that he is doing so well. Sounds like you have a good holistic vet, very involved in what is going on with him. Keep loving your little guy! Sue Lisa Borden wrote: My FeLV+ kitten, Tommy, continues to do wonderfully! He is active and playful, and has a tremendous appetite. He will be neutered on January 29th - his holistic vet said to continue to give him the DMG to help his immune system with the stress of surgery. She also gave him a probiotic to help his bowels when he is on an antibiotic. This is so much different from what I thought it would be like to have an FeLV kitten! I understand we are very lucky, and for that I am grateful. His holistic vet says that after the surgery, once he is stress free again, we can retest him for FeLV. Lisa ___ Felvtalk mailing list http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org [3] Links: -- [3] https://webmail2.agoc.com/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Ffelineleukemia.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ffelvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Swollen tonsils update
Hi guys, Well, I took Smookie in to the doc and the vet opened her mouth and said, Whoa! From Thursday to Friday, Smookie had developed tiny little bubbles on the inflamed area in the back of her mouth, and this morning when I gave her her antibiotic, I noticed the roof of her mouth is now red and irritated. Whatever she has, it's moving fast. There was no redness on Friday when I took her in, which is probably why the vet did not say Stomatitis. The vet said she wasn't exactly sure what it was without a biopsy (just a bunch of normal colored tissue in the back of her mouth), and she didn't want to do that right away until we tried some drugs first. She wanted to give her a steroid shot, but because I suspect Smookie has feline herpes because of her history of corneal ulcers, I wanted to try the antibiotics first since steriods tend to surpress the immune system further. Even though she did not have a fever, I figured something bacterial was going on because of the yucky drool she's been having at night (which I originally thought was coming out the other end, and had a fecal done about 3 weeks ago which showed nothing). Not sure that bypassing the steriod shot was such a good idea now since her mouth is getting red. I will probably take her back in tomorrow and get the shot for her. She pilled great the first two days, not so much this morning. She can be a little devil if she wants to be. I did some research and the good news is, if it is Stomatis and it can't be controlled with normal treatment, there is an 85% cure rate with extraction, so that's hopeful. Wish us luck that this goes away as fast as it's coming on. Any input/advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks so much, Wendy and Smookie Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ From: wendy wendy2...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 10:55:51 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Swollen tonsils?? Hey Gloria, That's what I thought at first, but Smookie's gums are not at all red or swollen. I think Kerry may have hit it on the head because Smookie does have herpes (or I assume so, due to her severe corneal ulcers when I first adopted her) and that is one of the symptoms because the virus replicates in the tonsils. Who knew? Taking her to vet today at 2:15. Will let you guys know how it goes. Thank you :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 9:41:23 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Swollen tonsils?? Hey Wendy - Sounds like Stomatitis. My Toby (b w male, older adult) has that in the back of his throat. Vet said give Depo shot periodically. We're also trying penicillin injections, and I'm trying Georges Aloe Vera orally. Last night I gave him some homeopathic arnica Gloria On Jan 1, 2009, at 12:58 PM, wendy wrote: Hey guys, I have an FeLV- kitty, Smookie, who I noticed when she was yawning that she had these huge things in the back of each side of her throat. They look like two giant cauliflowers or lettuce heads; one on each side. I also notice that it seems she has swollen lymph nodes on each side of her throat on the outside. Have any of you ever heard of a kitty with infected tonsils or tonsils having to be removed? Now that I think about it, she's had the lumps on her throat for a while, months, but I just thought when I petted her that was how her throat was. I didn't realize she had these growth-looking things on the inside of her throat! Any help is appreciated! Thanks, Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Swollen tonsils update
Taking pills might be hurting her already inflamed throat. I would ask for liquid meds. Also, have you tried giving L Lysine? That is what I treat my herpes kitties with. It works like a dream. When Winston gets real sick we use antibiotics. Have you joined the feline herpes yahoo group? Can you get to an ER vet today? Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 11:11 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Swollen tonsils update Hi guys, Well, I took Smookie in to the doc and the vet opened her mouth and said, Whoa! From Thursday to Friday, Smookie had developed tiny little bubbles on the inflamed area in the back of her mouth, and this morning when I gave her her antibiotic, I noticed the roof of her mouth is now red and irritated. Whatever she has, it's moving fast. There was no redness on Friday when I took her in, which is probably why the vet did not say Stomatitis. The vet said she wasn't exactly sure what it was without a biopsy (just a bunch of normal colored tissue in the back of her mouth), and she didn't want to do that right away until we tried some drugs first. She wanted to give her a steroid shot, but because I suspect Smookie has feline herpes because of her history of corneal ulcers, I wanted to try the antibiotics first since steriods tend to surpress the immune system further. Even though she did not have a fever, I figured something bacterial was going on because of the yucky drool she's been having at night (which I originally thought was coming out the other end, and had a fecal done about 3 weeks ago which showed nothing). Not sure that bypassing the steriod shot was such a good idea now since her mouth is getting red. I will probably take her back in tomorrow and get the shot for her. She pilled great the first two days, not so much this morning. She can be a little devil if she wants to be. I did some research and the good news is, if it is Stomatis and it can't be controlled with normal treatment, there is an 85% cure rate with extraction, so that's hopeful. Wish us luck that this goes away as fast as it's coming on. Any input/advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks so much, Wendy and Smookie Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ From: wendy wendy2...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 10:55:51 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Swollen tonsils?? Hey Gloria, That's what I thought at first, but Smookie's gums are not at all red or swollen. I think Kerry may have hit it on the head because Smookie does have herpes (or I assume so, due to her severe corneal ulcers when I first adopted her) and that is one of the symptoms because the virus replicates in the tonsils. Who knew? Taking her to vet today at 2:15. Will let you guys know how it goes. Thank you :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 9:41:23 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Swollen tonsils?? Hey Wendy - Sounds like Stomatitis. My Toby (b w male, older adult) has that in the back of his throat. Vet said give Depo shot periodically. We're also trying penicillin injections, and I'm trying Georges Aloe Vera orally. Last night I gave him some homeopathic arnica Gloria On Jan 1, 2009, at 12:58 PM, wendy wrote: Hey guys, I have an FeLV- kitty, Smookie, who I noticed when she was yawning that she had these huge things in the back of each side of her throat. They look like two giant cauliflowers or lettuce heads; one on each side. I also notice that it seems she has swollen lymph nodes on each side of her throat on the outside. Have any of you ever heard of a kitty with infected tonsils or tonsils having to be removed? Now that I think about it, she's had the lumps on her throat for a while, months, but I just thought when I petted her that was how her throat was. I didn't realize she had these growth-looking things on the inside of her throat! Any help is appreciated! Thanks, Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo
[Felvtalk] update on Mickey
I sent this earlier but I don't think it went through. I wrote a couple of weeks ago that my cat, Mickey, was going to have a growth removed from his leg that kept bleeding. The biopsy came back as malignant hemangio sarcoma. Even though it was on the skin and the doctor said he was 99% sure he got it all, I have been told that it will probably come back in his lungs or heart. I don't think I want to put him through chemo if it does. I want him to have as many good days as he can. Viky Digangi Support Enforcement Officer II Monroe Regional Office 318-362-5280 ext 297 Fax 318-362-3363 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] update on Mickey
Viky, I'm sorry the news wasn't better. I don't know anything about this, but I'm wondering if there's a way to do chemo now that would prevent reoccurrence later? I know chemo is never an easy thing. Hugs to both of you. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Viky Digangi Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 1:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] update on Mickey I sent this earlier but I don't think it went through. I wrote a couple of weeks ago that my cat, Mickey, was going to have a growth removed from his leg that kept bleeding. The biopsy came back as malignant hemangio sarcoma. Even though it was on the skin and the doctor said he was 99% sure he got it all, I have been told that it will probably come back in his lungs or heart. I don't think I want to put him through chemo if it does. I want him to have as many good days as he can. Viky Digangi Support Enforcement Officer II Monroe Regional Office 318-362-5280 ext 297 Fax 318-362-3363 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] update on Mickey
I read all of the information...thanks, by the way...and I agree with you; I wouldn't put one of my little ones through chemo with such a bleak outlookjust love him all you can while he's still well enough to enjoy it! Debbie (COL)I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God,I will do(Edward Everett Hale) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:29:20 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] update on Mickey I sent this earlier but I don't think it went through. I wrote a couple of weeks ago that my cat, Mickey, was going to have a growth removed from his leg that kept bleeding. The biopsy came back as malignant hemangio sarcoma. Even though it was on the skin and the doctor said he was 99% sure he got it all, I have been told that it will probably come back in his lungs or heart. I don't think I want to put him through chemo if it does. I want him to have as many good days as he can.Viky Digangi Support Enforcement Officer II Monroe Regional Office 318-362-5280 ext 297 Fax 318-362-3363 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] update on Mickey
Vicky, I'm sorry about the dx. I've never had a cancer kitty so can't offer any advise. You plan to keep Mickey happy sounds like a good one. Sharyl --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Viky Digangi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Viky Digangi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] update on Mickey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 2:29 PM I sent this earlier but I don't think it went through. I wrote a couple of weeks ago that my cat, Mickey, was going to have a growth removed from his leg that kept bleeding. The biopsy came back as malignant hemangio sarcoma. Even though it was on the skin and the doctor said he was 99% sure he got it all, I have been told that it will probably come back in his lungs or heart. I don't think I want to put him through chemo if it does. I want him to have as many good days as he can. Viky Digangi Support Enforcement Officer II Monroe Regional Office 318-362-5280 ext 297 Fax 318-362-3363 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] update on Mickey
HI I am so sorry to hear about Micky's dx.The dermal form is less agressive, so maybe there is hope there. The site I went to basically said chemo does not do much good. However I would go with the vets opinion on that. http://www.addl.purdue.edu/newsletters/2004/Fall/heman.htm I will be pulling for Micky. Hugs Sally ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] update on Mickey
My typical comments on situations that look bad: see if you can find an alternative vet. Mine has increased the quality of life for four of my wonderful friends and the new kittens, Copper and Thomas, see one just to make sure they are getting everything they need (they came from a pine thicket and very questionable background healthwise. Obviously their mothers cared a lot for them because they were brought behind my Mom's home where they would be found and given everything.) Next, do not dwell on what may be. None of us are guaranteed a minute of life. The goal, IMO, is to have the highest quality of life possible with all the love possible. Blessings to you and your Mickey. You are both blessed to have each other. On Oct 21, 2008, at 2:50 PM, Sharyl wrote: Vicky, I'm sorry about the dx. I've never had a cancer kitty so can't offer any advise. You plan to keep Mickey happy sounds like a good one. Sharyl --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Viky Digangi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Viky Digangi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] update on Mickey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 2:29 PM I sent this earlier but I don't think it went through. I wrote a couple of weeks ago that my cat, Mickey, was going to have a growth removed from his leg that kept bleeding. The biopsy came back as malignant hemangio sarcoma. Even though it was on the skin and the doctor said he was 99% sure he got it all, I have been told that it will probably come back in his lungs or heart. I don't think I want to put him through chemo if it does. I want him to have as many good days as he can. Viky Digangi Support Enforcement Officer II Monroe Regional Office 318-362-5280 ext 297 Fax 318-362-3363 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] update on Mickey
just be sure there is no alternative. maybe chemo for a few treatments and then if too hard for Mickey, stop. i've been there last year with Shadow and Shorty. i had to put them to sleep within a month of each other. Shadow had a tumor on his spine and he was 18 years old. by the time we got to Columbia (U of MO vet school), the tumor had cut off circulation for 2 long and said he would never have use of back legs. Shorty woke me up screaming. he was having a series of strokes. drove 90 miles an hour to emergency vet (4am). did do one smart thing, called 911 and told them on way to vet and wasn't stopping for tickets, could follow me and give it to me at vet's. the nice lady asked me for color of car, license, said to drive carefully and called ahead to highway patrol and other police departments i would be passing thru. had 2 cars falsh their lights at me and motion me on. people put police down today, but they can be nice people. Since Shorty was also 18, any treatment might be more than he could handle. never want to hear a cat screaming like that again and hate making that decision. dorlis Rosenfeldt wrote: Viky, I'm sorry the news wasn't better. I don't know anything about this, but I'm wondering if there's a way to do chemo now that would prevent reoccurrence later? I know chemo is never an easy thing. Hugs to both of you. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Viky Digangi Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 1:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] update on Mickey I sent this earlier but I don't think it went through. I wrote a couple of weeks ago that my cat, Mickey, was going to have a growth removed from his leg that kept bleeding. The biopsy came back as malignant hemangio sarcoma. Even though it was on the skin and the doctor said he was 99% sure he got it all, I have been told that it will probably come back in his lungs or heart. I don't think I want to put him through chemo if it does. I want him to have as many good days as he can. Viky Digangi Support Enforcement Officer II Monroe Regional Office 318-362-5280 ext 297 Fax 318-362-3363 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Update on Macy
I appreciate all those who responded and all of the suggestions. Macy came home from the hospital yesterday and is feeling better, but not great. They never found the source of her fever but put her on an antibiotic (ClavaMox), as well as Famotidine for her tummy. We're to give her each twice a day for a week. They did find that one of her kidneys is on the small size of normal and the other is tiny so she'll have to have urine tests more often. Because of the kidney issue, they've put her on a senior diet so she'll get more fiber and less protein. We see her regular vet later this week. Would love to hear if anyone has any suggestions. Dawn ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Macy
Dawn, glad she is home with you again. Regarding the Famotidine (Original Strength Pepcid AC) what dose did the vet recommend. For kitties with compromised kidneys the general starting dose is 2.5 mg EOD (every other day). I don't remember how old Marcy is. The older the kitty the longer it takes for the Famotidine to clear their system. To much Famotidine will also cause nausea. You might want to bookmark this site. www.felineCRF.org It has a wealth of info on kidney disease. Better to start educating yourself now before Marcy is in a crisis mode. There are several option for kidney diet foods - both canned and dry. Your regular vet will have more info. I don't want to scare you but there are real advantages to treating kidney issues early. Hugs to Marcy Sharyl --- On Mon, 10/13/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] Update on Macy To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 1:55 PM I appreciate all those who responded and all of the suggestions. Macy came home from the hospital yesterday and is feeling better, but not great. They never found the source of her fever but put her on an antibiotic (ClavaMox), as well as Famotidine for her tummy. We're to give her each twice a day for a week. They did find that one of her kidneys is on the small size of normal and the other is tiny so she'll have to have urine tests more often. Because of the kidney issue, they've put her on a senior diet so she'll get more fiber and less protein. We see her regular vet later this week. Would love to hear if anyone has any suggestions. Dawn ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tweezer update
Sue, thank goodness he is with you now. Sounds like he might have a chance with a little help. Just keep loving him. Sharyl --- On Thu, 9/18/08, Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] Tweezer update To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 8:16 AM Today I took Tweezer to the vet. I am so angry that a supposed rescue group could let him get into such bad shape. He only weights about 3 1/2 lbs. He has a horrible case of ear mites. He has an eye infection and an upper respiratory infection. The fact that he can't seem to put on weight may be caused by a genetic defect of the liver (liver shunts?). A blood panel was taken and his urine is being tested. The one good thing is that he does not seem to be a bit anemic. His appetite is also good. He ate most of a can of Wellness today. So - now we await the results of the tests. I will not hear back from the vet until Tuesday because they are going out of town. He is on Doxycycline for his eye infection and the respiratory infection. They also gave him a treatment of ear mite/flea medication that they put on the back of his neck. He is such a wonderful sweet kitty. He just loves to be loved. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tweezer update
Most of these things can be treated pretty easily. The ear mite/flea medication is probably Revolution - I believe Frontline has come out with a similar product called Frontline plus. I keep all my cats on Revolution monthly, mostly for heartworm prevention, there are other more effective flea preventatives. The eye infection and upper respiratory infection can be easily treated. Unfortunately I know little about liver shunts - we have not had to deal with any of those yet. On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:13 AM, Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sue, thank goodness he is with you now. Sounds like he might have a chance with a little help. Just keep loving him. Sharyl --- On Thu, 9/18/08, Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] Tweezer update To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 8:16 AM Today I took Tweezer to the vet. I am so angry that a supposed rescue group could let him get into such bad shape. He only weights about 3 1/2 lbs. He has a horrible case of ear mites. He has an eye infection and an upper respiratory infection. The fact that he can't seem to put on weight may be caused by a genetic defect of the liver (liver shunts?). A blood panel was taken and his urine is being tested. The one good thing is that he does not seem to be a bit anemic. His appetite is also good. He ate most of a can of Wellness today. So - now we await the results of the tests. I will not hear back from the vet until Tuesday because they are going out of town. He is on Doxycycline for his eye infection and the respiratory infection. They also gave him a treatment of ear mite/flea medication that they put on the back of his neck. He is such a wonderful sweet kitty. He just loves to be loved. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with the Friday Night Lights' kittens medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/the-friday-night-lights-kittens Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tweezer update
Sue, here is a good link to more info on liver shunts. http://www.petplace.com/cats/portosystemic-shunt-hepatic-shunt-in-cats/page1.aspx If that is the dx it could be caused by the FeLV. Looks like that could be why he is so small. It is treatable but a low protein diet seems to be important. Sharyl --- On Fri, 9/19/08, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tweezer update To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, September 19, 2008, 5:01 AM Most of these things can be treated pretty easily. The ear mite/flea medication is probably Revolution - I believe Frontline has come out with a similar product called Frontline plus. I keep all my cats on Revolution monthly, mostly for heartworm prevention, there are other more effective flea preventatives. The eye infection and upper respiratory infection can be easily treated. Unfortunately I know little about liver shunts - we have not had to deal with any of those yet. On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:13 AM, Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sue, thank goodness he is with you now. Sounds like he might have a chance with a little help. Just keep loving him. Sharyl --- On Thu, 9/18/08, Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] Tweezer update To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 8:16 AM Today I took Tweezer to the vet. I am so angry that a supposed rescue group could let him get into such bad shape. He only weights about 3 1/2 lbs. He has a horrible case of ear mites. He has an eye infection and an upper respiratory infection. The fact that he can't seem to put on weight may be caused by a genetic defect of the liver (liver shunts?). A blood panel was taken and his urine is being tested. The one good thing is that he does not seem to be a bit anemic. His appetite is also good. He ate most of a can of Wellness today. So - now we await the results of the tests. I will not hear back from the vet until Tuesday because they are going out of town. He is on Doxycycline for his eye infection and the respiratory infection. They also gave him a treatment of ear mite/flea medication that they put on the back of his neck. He is such a wonderful sweet kitty. He just loves to be loved. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with the Friday Night Lights' kittens medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/the-friday-night-lights-kittens Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Tweezer update
Today I took Tweezer to the vet. I am so angry that a supposed rescue group could let him get into such bad shape. He only weights about 3 1/2 lbs. He has a horrible case of ear mites. He has an eye infection and an upper respiratory infection. The fact that he can't seem to put on weight may be caused by a genetic defect of the liver (liver shunts?). A blood panel was taken and his urine is being tested. The one good thing is that he does not seem to be a bit anemic. His appetite is also good. He ate most of a can of Wellness today. So - now we await the results of the tests. I will not hear back from the vet until Tuesday because they are going out of town. He is on Doxycycline for his eye infection and the respiratory infection. They also gave him a treatment of ear mite/flea medication that they put on the back of his neck. He is such a wonderful sweet kitty. He just loves to be loved. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vet visit update
I've found two homes for Isobel's kittens. I hope she only has four. Maybe I can talk my boyfriend into keeping the one that doesn't get adopted.. Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) --- On Wed, 8/27/08, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vet visit update To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 4:41 AM I would go ahead with spay abort. I'm sure there are plenty of kittens being pts at this time of year where you live. Why let them be born? If they do get a home it just means that another cat/kitten will take their place being pts. This way they are never born and they never know. jmo tonya Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good news about the test results. One suggestion though--contact this no-kill shelter RIGHT NOW! Most no-kills are always full up and you need to be absolutely sure they will take the kittens. Also, please check the shelter yourself to make sure its on the up and up. Ask what happens to kittens who aren't adopted? Do they keep them? Don't wait until the kittens are born. Christiane Biagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Vet visit update Morrison and Isobel are both FeLV NEGATIVE! I was so happy when I found out! Those were the longest 10 minutes of my life (the time it takes for the test results). They both got their FeLV vaccine. At first they weren't going to give Isobel one because she's pregnant (the vet confirmed) but then they found their FeLV vaccine for pregnant kitties. I spoke with my vet about a spay-abort and he said basically it was my choice, but that is something he does (for a much bigger price), but he said I should also consider no-kill shelters. There's a shelter that brings cats who're up for adoption to my vet's office and they're on display in the lobby. He told me to take the kittens there after they've been weened and seen by him and most likely they'd be adopted out sooner rather than later, and possibly even displayed in his office, and their kittens always go fast. There's an adoption application and a donation fee, so as to make sure they're being adopted into good homes who really want them. I got the feeling from my vet that he's not too fond of doing spay-abortions. He said if I do choose to do that, I need to do it within the next two weeks tops because he guesstimated that she's going to give birth within four weeks, give or take. As for Ash, he got his rabies vaccination and he's all set to get neutered on the 28th. I discussed supplements for him and he recommended Lisine (spelling). He said I can get it at most health food stores, or maybe even Walmart. 250 mgs a day. I am going to look into other supplements as well. I have names of some. With the supplements and with periodic wellness visits, Ash should be fine for a while (I hope). Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vet visit update
I would go ahead with spay abort. I'm sure there are plenty of kittens being pts at this time of year where you live. Why let them be born? If they do get a home it just means that another cat/kitten will take their place being pts. This way they are never born and they never know. jmo tonya Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good news about the test results. One suggestion though--contact this no-kill shelter RIGHT NOW! Most no-kills are always full up and you need to be absolutely sure they will take the kittens. Also, please check the shelter yourself to make sure its on the up and up. Ask what happens to kittens who aren't adopted? Do they keep them? Don't wait until the kittens are born. Christiane Biagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Vet visit update Morrison and Isobel are both FeLV NEGATIVE! I was so happy when I found out! Those were the longest 10 minutes of my life (the time it takes for the test results). They both got their FeLV vaccine. At first they weren't going to give Isobel one because she's pregnant (the vet confirmed) but then they found their FeLV vaccine for pregnant kitties. I spoke with my vet about a spay-abort and he said basically it was my choice, but that is something he does (for a much bigger price), but he said I should also consider no-kill shelters. There's a shelter that brings cats who're up for adoption to my vet's office and they're on display in the lobby. He told me to take the kittens there after they've been weened and seen by him and most likely they'd be adopted out sooner rather than later, and possibly even displayed in his office, and their kittens always go fast. There's an adoption application and a donation fee, so as to make sure they're being adopted into good homes who really want them. I got the feeling from my vet that he's not too fond of doing spay-abortions. He said if I do choose to do that, I need to do it within the next two weeks tops because he guesstimated that she's going to give birth within four weeks, give or take. As for Ash, he got his rabies vaccination and he's all set to get neutered on the 28th. I discussed supplements for him and he recommended Lisine (spelling). He said I can get it at most health food stores, or maybe even Walmart. 250 mgs a day. I am going to look into other supplements as well. I have names of some. With the supplements and with periodic wellness visits, Ash should be fine for a while (I hope). Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Patches update
Please pray for Patches again. Her PCV went down from 20 to 18, and she's not eating much on her own anymore. Her liver values were normal, though. She did get some chemo yesterday. I am not sure why she is getting worse. They think the cancer is in remission. Maybe it is the anemia. Maybe her pancreatitis is acting up. I am not sure. Prayers helped before, though thanks, Michelle _ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any tax advice expressed above by Mayer Brown LLP was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any taxpayer to avoid U.S. federal tax penalties. If such advice was written or used to support the promotion or marketing of the matter addressed above, then each offeree should seek advice from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Patches update
Here's vibes that Patches rallies through this. She has so much going on, poor baby. Hugs to her and to Michelle. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:14 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Patches update Please pray for Patches again. Her PCV went down from 20 to 18, and she's not eating much on her own anymore. Her liver values were normal, though. She did get some chemo yesterday. I am not sure why she is getting worse. They think the cancer is in remission. Maybe it is the anemia. Maybe her pancreatitis is acting up. I am not sure. Prayers helped before, though thanks, Michelle _ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any tax advice expressed above by Mayer Brown LLP was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any taxpayer to avoid U.S. federal tax penalties. If such advice was written or used to support the promotion or marketing of the matter addressed above, then each offeree should seek advice from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Seizures Update
Here's an update on my adopted/returned foster cat with alleged seizures: By the time his appt rolled around yesterday with the vet of my choice, I knew it was going to go well. The more people I talked to about it, the more people said there was something wrong with those people at that house and having him out of there was the most important thing. But he's just gotten better and better. I have no trouble medicating him at all. Just those first few times. He's actually one of the easiest I've ever medicated now!! I haven't had a scratch or a bite yet and it goes super fast-- he's a good boy! The odd aggressive behavior is lessened. He totally trusts me already and is a complete love-bug. He is just a quirky, willful little thing and that's just his personality-- he wants to run around and be hyper and get into everything and so sometimes when I scoop him up, he does that growling, but it's funny/harmless. Most importantly, no seizures-- no signs of seizures. I've had him since Thursday and you'd think he never left me with the way he responds to me! So the vet saw a totally healthy, friendly, bright, Curious George Cat yesterday! He just walks all over the exam room, jumps in the doctor's lap and rolls around!, purrs, tries to get into everything! It's great to watch. Dr. said we have a very healthy cat and he can't believe those people said they were going to put him down! He said this is not a cat you even consider that with! He agrees there was possible abuse. But he also suggested that-- upon watching the cat's behavior in the exam room- that he is a cat who wants to get into everything so he thinks it's very possible the cat got into something- like a chemical- and the people- since they are so weird- just didn't know and overreacted. He said that's very possible and with the way that cats metabolize things so slowly, it might just take a while for him to work it out of his system and that could be why he maybe had continuing seizures (if he even had them). He said since there's been so seizures and the cat is happy, he doesn't want to change anything. Stay on the same dose of phenobarb for 1 mth. Then he wants to see him again in a month and they will take blood and get a phenobarb level at that time. Then we will work on taking him off it slowly and monitoring the level. He said if we start taking him off and he has a seizure- then we know he was having them, but at least we know that the phenobarb will control it. But Dr. said no signs of a neurological defect-- none at all. No need to even consider a catscan b/c there's just no signs-- totally alert and bright. He said if it was FIP, there'd be other neurological signs, like ataxia. But also, I don't know if I told you that?- adoptive parents vet called on sat- and everything negative- fip, toxo, felv, fiv- neg. Dr. confirmed too that blood work looks great. Good news all around! He's a happy, healthy, bouncing boy and I'm glad to have him back in my care! Thanks for everyone's input, care and concern! Caroline _ See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. http://www.windowslive.com/connect?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_connect2_082008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Seizures Update
That's wonderful, Caroline!! Gloria On Aug 19, 2008, at 10:16 AM, Caroline Kaufmann wrote: Here's an update on my adopted/returned foster cat with alleged seizures: By the time his appt rolled around yesterday with the vet of my choice, I knew it was going to go well. The more people I talked to about it, the more people said there was something wrong with those people at that house and having him out of there was the most important thing. But he's just gotten better and better. I have no trouble medicating him at all. Just those first few times. He's actually one of the easiest I've ever medicated now!! I haven't had a scratch or a bite yet and it goes super fast-- he's a good boy! The odd aggressive behavior is lessened. He totally trusts me already and is a complete love-bug. He is just a quirky, willful little thing and that's just his personality-- he wants to run around and be hyper and get into everything and so sometimes when I scoop him up, he does that growling, but it's funny/harmless. Most importantly, no seizures-- no signs of seizures. I've had him since Thursday and you'd think he never left me with the way he responds to me! So the vet saw a totally healthy, friendly, bright, Curious George Cat yesterday! He just walks all over the exam room, jumps in the doctor's lap and rolls around!, purrs, tries to get into everything! It's great to watch. Dr. said we have a very healthy cat and he can't believe those people said they were going to put him down! He said this is not a cat you even consider that with! He agrees there was possible abuse. But he also suggested that-- upon watching the cat's behavior in the exam room- that he is a cat who wants to get into everything so he thinks it's very possible the cat got into something- like a chemical- and the people- since they are so weird- just didn't know and overreacted. He said that's very possible and with the way that cats metabolize things so slowly, it might just take a while for him to work it out of his system and that could be why he maybe had continuing seizures (if he even had them). He said since there's been so seizures and the cat is happy, he doesn't want to change anything. Stay on the same dose of phenobarb for 1 mth. Then he wants to see him again in a month and they will take blood and get a phenobarb level at that time. Then we will work on taking him off it slowly and monitoring the level. He said if we start taking him off and he has a seizure- then we know he was having them, but at least we know that the phenobarb will control it. But Dr. said no signs of a neurological defect-- none at all. No need to even consider a catscan b/c there's just no signs-- totally alert and bright. He said if it was FIP, there'd be other neurological signs, like ataxia. But also, I don't know if I told you that?- adoptive parents vet called on sat- and everything negative- fip, toxo, felv, fiv- neg. Dr. confirmed too that blood work looks great. Good news all around! He's a happy, healthy, bouncing boy and I'm glad to have him back in my care! Thanks for everyone's input, care and concern! Caroline _ See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. http://www.windowslive.com/connect?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_connect2_082008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Seizures Update
Caroline, looks like that precious baby has found his forever home with you! How lucky for both of you. Keep us updated, please.Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:16:42 -0400 Subject: [Felvtalk] Seizures Update Here's an update on my adopted/returned foster cat with alleged seizures: By the time his appt rolled around yesterday with the vet of my choice, I knew it was going to go well. The more people I talked to about it, the more people said there was something wrong with those people at that house and having him out of there was the most important thing. But he's just gotten better and better. I have no trouble medicating him at all. Just those first few times. He's actually one of the easiest I've ever medicated now!! I haven't had a scratch or a bite yet and it goes super fast-- he's a good boy! The odd aggressive behavior is lessened. He totally trusts me already and is a complete love-bug. He is just a quirky, willful little thing and that's just his personality-- he wants to run around and be hyper and get into everything and so sometimes when I scoop him up, he does that growling, but it's funny/harmless. Most importantly, no seizures-- no signs of seizures. I've had him since Thursday and you'd think he never left me with the way he responds to me!So the vet saw a totally healthy, friendly, bright, Curious George Cat yesterday! He just walks all over the exam room, jumps in the doctor's lap and rolls around!, purrs, tries to get into everything! It's great to watch. Dr. said we have a very healthy cat and he can't believe those people said they were going to put him down! He said this is not a cat you even consider that with! He agrees there was possible abuse. But he also suggested that-- upon watching the cat's behavior in the exam room- that he is a cat who wants to get into everything so he thinks it's very possible the cat got into something- like a chemical- and the people- since they are so weird- just didn't know and overreacted. He said that's very possible and with the way that cats metabolize things so slowly, it might just take a while for him to work it out of his system and that could be why he maybe had continuing seizures (if he even had them). He said since there's been so seizures and the cat is happy, he doesn't want to change anything. Stay on the same dose of phenobarb for 1 mth. Then he wants to see him again in a month and they will take blood and get a phenobarb level at that time. Then we will work on taking him off it slowly and monitoring the level. He said if we start taking him off and he has a seizure- then we know he was having them, but at least we know that the phenobarb will control it. But Dr. said no signs of a neurological defect-- none at all. No need to even consider a catscan b/c there's just no signs-- totally alert and bright. He said if it was FIP, there'd be other neurological signs, like ataxia. But also, I don't know if I told you that?- adoptive parents vet called on sat- and everything negative- fip, toxo, felv, fiv- neg. Dr. confirmed too that blood work looks great. Good news all around! He's a happy, healthy, bouncing boy and I'm glad to have him back in my care! Thanks for everyone's input, care and concern! Caroline _ See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. http://www.windowslive.com/connect?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_connect2_082008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+worldmkt=en-USform=QBRE ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Patches update
We're thinking and praying for Patches and visualizing a quick recovery. Jane On Aug 19, 2008, at 11:09 AM, Rosenfeldt, Diane wrote: __ __ ansmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Michelle's Patches update!
Some great Monday morning news from Michelle: Patches ate almost a whole can of A/D on her own over yesterday, in addition to the (reduced) tube feedings we gave her. She is going up and down the stairs, and right now is outside with Gray (she asked to go outside about an hour ago and has not wanted to come in). She's purring and bright, and started grooming herself. Almost unbelievable. Knock on wood a thousand times. I almost wrote yesterday to tell you, but am so superstitious and worried about communicating such good news, afraid it will stop. But it's not really fair to only write the bad news! She does have diarrhea, but maybe just from eating so much after so long of reduced calories, and she's not really used to A/D (the internist insists it's ok for her pancreatitis, and she's on increased insulin, although her sugar values were down today so she got her normal dose this morning). And her breathing sounds funny sometimes, like wheezy or whistly, but it comes and goes and we think it is her nose, and it does not seem to bother her. She has a oncology appointment day after tomorrow, so we'll have it checked then if she's still doing it. So thank you for all your prayers and warm thoughts. And I know this is my mantra, but she has a lot going on and is not out of woods yet. But today is a blessing so far. Please let the list know. thanks, Michelle _ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any tax advice expressed above by Mayer Brown LLP was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any taxpayer to avoid U.S. federal tax penalties. If such advice was written or used to support the promotion or marketing of the matter addressed above, then each offeree should seek advice from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vet visit update
Jennifer, Congratulations on the negative FeLV test results! The supplement your vet recommended is lysine. You can find it fairly inexpensive at health food stores and online, if not elsewhere. Sometimes lysine can have additives that can cause Heinz body anemia in cats, so make sure you buy it in pure form. Keep us posted on your pregnant kitty and I'm so glad for her and her kittens that she is negative! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:34:15 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Vet visit update Morrison and Isobel are both FeLV NEGATIVE! I was so happy when I found out! Those were the longest 10 minutes of my life (the time it takes for the test results). They both got their FeLV vaccine. At first they weren't going to give Isobel one because she's pregnant (the vet confirmed) but then they found their FeLV vaccine for pregnant kitties. I spoke with my vet about a spay-abort and he said basically it was my choice, but that is something he does (for a much bigger price), but he said I should also consider no-kill shelters. There's a shelter that brings cats who're up for adoption to my vet's office and they're on display in the lobby. He told me to take the kittens there after they've been weened and seen by him and most likely they'd be adopted out sooner rather than later, and possibly even displayed in his office, and their kittens always go fast. There's an adoption application and a donation fee, so as to make sure they're being adopted into good homes who really want them. I got the feeling from my vet that he's not too fond of doing spay-abortions. He said if I do choose to do that, I need to do it within the next two weeks tops because he guesstimated that she's going to give birth within four weeks, give or take. As for Ash, he got his rabies vaccination and he's all set to get neutered on the 28th. I discussed supplements for him and he recommended Lisine (spelling). He said I can get it at most health food stores, or maybe even Walmart. 250 mgs a day. I am going to look into other supplements as well. I have names of some. With the supplements and with periodic wellness visits, Ash should be fine for a while (I hope). Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vet visit update
Jennifer, if you have a GNC near you, they carry the pure form. Pharmacies tend to have the human kind with the additives. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 10:59 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vet visit update Jennifer, Congratulations on the negative FeLV test results! The supplement your vet recommended is lysine. You can find it fairly inexpensive at health food stores and online, if not elsewhere. Sometimes lysine can have additives that can cause Heinz body anemia in cats, so make sure you buy it in pure form. Keep us posted on your pregnant kitty and I'm so glad for her and her kittens that she is negative! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:34:15 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Vet visit update Morrison and Isobel are both FeLV NEGATIVE! I was so happy when I found out! Those were the longest 10 minutes of my life (the time it takes for the test results). They both got their FeLV vaccine. At first they weren't going to give Isobel one because she's pregnant (the vet confirmed) but then they found their FeLV vaccine for pregnant kitties. I spoke with my vet about a spay-abort and he said basically it was my choice, but that is something he does (for a much bigger price), but he said I should also consider no-kill shelters. There's a shelter that brings cats who're up for adoption to my vet's office and they're on display in the lobby. He told me to take the kittens there after they've been weened and seen by him and most likely they'd be adopted out sooner rather than later, and possibly even displayed in his office, and their kittens always go fast. There's an adoption application and a donation fee, so as to make sure they're being adopted into good homes who really want them. I got the feeling from my vet that he's not too fond of doing spay-abortions. He said if I do choose to do that, I need to do it within the next two weeks tops because he guesstimated that she's going to give birth within four weeks, give or take. As for Ash, he got his rabies vaccination and he's all set to get neutered on the 28th. I discussed supplements for him and he recommended Lisine (spelling). He said I can get it at most health food stores, or maybe even Walmart. 250 mgs a day. I am going to look into other supplements as well. I have names of some. With the supplements and with periodic wellness visits, Ash should be fine for a while (I hope). Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vet visit update
Diane and Wendy - thanks for the advice on lysine. I do have a GNC in the local mall. I'll check it out there. Thanks! Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) --- On Sat, 8/16/08, Diane Rosenfeldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Diane Rosenfeldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vet visit update To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, August 16, 2008, 4:06 PM Jennifer, if you have a GNC near you, they carry the pure form. Pharmacies tend to have the human kind with the additives. Diane R. mia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Vet visit update
Morrison and Isobel are both FeLV NEGATIVE! I was so happy when I found out! Those were the longest 10 minutes of my life (the time it takes for the test results). They both got their FeLV vaccine. At first they weren't going to give Isobel one because she's pregnant (the vet confirmed) but then they found their FeLV vaccine for pregnant kitties. I spoke with my vet about a spay-abort and he said basically it was my choice, but that is something he does (for a much bigger price), but he said I should also consider no-kill shelters. There's a shelter that brings cats who're up for adoption to my vet's office and they're on display in the lobby. He told me to take the kittens there after they've been weened and seen by him and most likely they'd be adopted out sooner rather than later, and possibly even displayed in his office, and their kittens always go fast. There's an adoption application and a donation fee, so as to make sure they're being adopted into good homes who really want them. I got the feeling from my vet that he's not too fond of doing spay-abortions. He said if I do choose to do that, I need to do it within the next two weeks tops because he guesstimated that she's going to give birth within four weeks, give or take. As for Ash, he got his rabies vaccination and he's all set to get neutered on the 28th. I discussed supplements for him and he recommended Lisine (spelling). He said I can get it at most health food stores, or maybe even Walmart. 250 mgs a day. I am going to look into other supplements as well. I have names of some. With the supplements and with periodic wellness visits, Ash should be fine for a while (I hope). Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vet visit update
Good news about the test results. One suggestion though--contact this no-kill shelter RIGHT NOW! Most no-kills are always full up and you need to be absolutely sure they will take the kittens. Also, please check the shelter yourself to make sure its on the up and up. Ask what happens to kittens who aren't adopted? Do they keep them? Don't wait until the kittens are born. Christiane Biagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Vet visit update Morrison and Isobel are both FeLV NEGATIVE! I was so happy when I found out! Those were the longest 10 minutes of my life (the time it takes for the test results). They both got their FeLV vaccine. At first they weren't going to give Isobel one because she's pregnant (the vet confirmed) but then they found their FeLV vaccine for pregnant kitties. I spoke with my vet about a spay-abort and he said basically it was my choice, but that is something he does (for a much bigger price), but he said I should also consider no-kill shelters. There's a shelter that brings cats who're up for adoption to my vet's office and they're on display in the lobby. He told me to take the kittens there after they've been weened and seen by him and most likely they'd be adopted out sooner rather than later, and possibly even displayed in his office, and their kittens always go fast. There's an adoption application and a donation fee, so as to make sure they're being adopted into good homes who really want them. I got the feeling from my vet that he's not too fond of doing spay-abortions. He said if I do choose to do that, I need to do it within the next two weeks tops because he guesstimated that she's going to give birth within four weeks, give or take. As for Ash, he got his rabies vaccination and he's all set to get neutered on the 28th. I discussed supplements for him and he recommended Lisine (spelling). He said I can get it at most health food stores, or maybe even Walmart. 250 mgs a day. I am going to look into other supplements as well. I have names of some. With the supplements and with periodic wellness visits, Ash should be fine for a while (I hope). Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vet visit update
Good idea Chris. Thanks for the advice. I know of some other no-kill shelters in the area as well. One is called Ron's Animal Shelter, which is where I got Morrison from years ago. All they ask is that you donate a bag of cat or dog food if you're dropping off animals. I've been there before and it's a nice place, as far as shelters go. I will do my homework. Thanks. Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) --- On Fri, 8/15/08, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vet visit update To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, August 15, 2008, 12:58 AM Good news about the test results. One suggestion though--contact this no-kill shelter RIGHT NOW! Most no-kills are always full up and you need to be absolutely sure they will take the kittens. Also, please check the shelter yourself to make sure its on the up and up. Ask what happens to kittens who aren't adopted? Do they keep them? Don't wait until the kittens are born. Christiane Biagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Vet visit update Morrison and Isobel are both FeLV NEGATIVE! I was so happy when I found out! Those were the longest 10 minutes of my life (the time it takes for the test results). They both got their FeLV vaccine. At first they weren't going to give Isobel one because she's pregnant (the vet confirmed) but then they found their FeLV vaccine for pregnant kitties. I spoke with my vet about a spay-abort and he said basically it was my choice, but that is something he does (for a much bigger price), but he said I should also consider no-kill shelters. There's a shelter that brings cats who're up for adoption to my vet's office and they're on display in the lobby. He told me to take the kittens there after they've been weened and seen by him and most likely they'd be adopted out sooner rather than later, and possibly even displayed in his office, and their kittens always go fast. There's an adoption application and a donation fee, so as to make sure they're being adopted into good homes who really want them. I got the feeling from my vet that he's not too fond of doing spay-abortions. He said if I do choose to do that, I need to do it within the next two weeks tops because he guesstimated that she's going to give birth within four weeks, give or take. As for Ash, he got his rabies vaccination and he's all set to get neutered on the 28th. I discussed supplements for him and he recommended Lisine (spelling). He said I can get it at most health food stores, or maybe even Walmart. 250 mgs a day. I am going to look into other supplements as well. I have names of some. With the supplements and with periodic wellness visits, Ash should be fine for a while (I hope). Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Furry Laura update ?'s
Hi All, I've been reading through this list, lots of great information! Been trying to chime in but having trouble keeping up with the fast pace lately, you are all very chatty :) Anyway, Laura, my FeLV + kitty is doing wonderfully. She had several days of loose stool, a few weeks back and I think it was from the vetri-science treats that I was giving her, they had lysine (she has herpes) and DMG in them. Once I stopped them, she firmed back up again. She's gained quite a bit of weight, my neighbor/pet sitter (who visits Laura daily) thinks it might be a bit too much. But honestly I think having a little bit of extra insulalation is good for her, gives her more of a buffer if she should become sick. What do you all think? She's not fat, but she is very solid and borderline a little chunky. She looks great, all of her fur has grown back (she had alot of bald patches when I got her) and her coat is shiny and dense. She eats a full can and 1/2 of wellness per day (5.5 oz can) plus I free feed dry wellness for her. Since I currently have a very sick 14 year old, who won't eat, I'm just thrilled that Laura's appetite is so healthy, maybe it's too much, but again, I think she needs a little extra meat on her on bones. Thanks in advance for any comments, Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I wish Dixie had been a little larger weight wise. She was so small that anemia and the resulting dehydration took her very quickly. A little extra weight might have helped. Unfortunately, Dixie was very good, as most cats are, at disguising health problems. And you are feeding a good food. On Aug 3, 2008, at 7:54 AM, Laura B wrote: Hi All, I've been reading through this list, lots of great information! Been trying to chime in but having trouble keeping up with the fast pace lately, you are all very chatty :) Anyway, Laura, my FeLV + kitty is doing wonderfully. She had several days of loose stool, a few weeks back and I think it was from the vetri-science treats that I was giving her, they had lysine (she has herpes) and DMG in them. Once I stopped them, she firmed back up again. She's gained quite a bit of weight, my neighbor/pet sitter (who visits Laura daily) thinks it might be a bit too much. But honestly I think having a little bit of extra insulalation is good for her, gives her more of a buffer if she should become sick. What do you all think? She's not fat, but she is very solid and borderline a little chunky. She looks great, all of her fur has grown back (she had alot of bald patches when I got her) and her coat is shiny and dense. She eats a full can and 1/2 of wellness per day (5.5 oz can) plus I free feed dry wellness for her. Since I currently have a very sick 14 year old, who won't eat, I'm just thrilled that Laura's appetite is so healthy, maybe it's too much, but again, I think she needs a little extra meat on her on bones. Thanks in advance for any comments, Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Furry Laura update ?'s
I agree with you 100% Laura. If she's enjoying her food that much she must be feeling good and if she gets fat so what. We wouldn't want to stress or upset her by taking away food. A far worse problem is trying to force feed them when they're wasting away. Lynne - Original Message - From: Laura B [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 8:54 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Furry Laura update ?'s Hi All, I've been reading through this list, lots of great information! Been trying to chime in but having trouble keeping up with the fast pace lately, you are all very chatty :) Anyway, Laura, my FeLV + kitty is doing wonderfully. She had several days of loose stool, a few weeks back and I think it was from the vetri-science treats that I was giving her, they had lysine (she has herpes) and DMG in them. Once I stopped them, she firmed back up again. She's gained quite a bit of weight, my neighbor/pet sitter (who visits Laura daily) thinks it might be a bit too much. But honestly I think having a little bit of extra insulalation is good for her, gives her more of a buffer if she should become sick. What do you all think? She's not fat, but she is very solid and borderline a little chunky. She looks great, all of her fur has grown back (she had alot of bald patches when I got her) and her coat is shiny and dense. She eats a full can and 1/2 of wellness per day (5.5 oz can) plus I free feed dry wellness for her. Since I currently have a very sick 14 year old, who won't eat, I'm just thrilled that Laura's appetite is so healthy, maybe it's too much, but again, I think she needs a little extra meat on her on bones. Thanks in advance for any comments, Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 3301 (20080727) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Furry Laura update ?'s
JMHO but a good appetite is a good thing. So many if the problems we face affect appetite. She is eating a good diet. Unless she gets obese I wouldn't worry about it. Sharyl --- On Sun, 8/3/08, Laura B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Laura B [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] Furry Laura update ?'s To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 8:54 AM Hi All, I've been reading through this list, lots of great information! Been trying to chime in but having trouble keeping up with the fast pace lately, you are all very chatty :) Anyway, Laura, my FeLV + kitty is doing wonderfully. She had several days of loose stool, a few weeks back and I think it was from the vetri-science treats that I was giving her, they had lysine (she has herpes) and DMG in them. Once I stopped them, she firmed back up again. She's gained quite a bit of weight, my neighbor/pet sitter (who visits Laura daily) thinks it might be a bit too much. But honestly I think having a little bit of extra insulalation is good for her, gives her more of a buffer if she should become sick. What do you all think? She's not fat, but she is very solid and borderline a little chunky. She looks great, all of her fur has grown back (she had alot of bald patches when I got her) and her coat is shiny and dense. She eats a full can and 1/2 of wellness per day (5.5 oz can) plus I free feed dry wellness for her. Since I currently have a very sick 14 year old, who won't eat, I'm just thrilled that Laura's appetite is so healthy, maybe it's too much, but again, I think she needs a little extra meat on her on bones. Thanks in advance for any comments, Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Furry Laura update ?'s
My Tucson is a big cat but still a bit on the heavy side but you know, if she doesn't feel well, she instantly stops eating... Not only does it give me a signal something's wrong but that extra weight gives us a bit of time to figure out what's going on. Of course, she's a bit of a fusspot and what's going on could be she has an upset tummy, has hairballs, is annoyed at something or other--But she's had a couple of episodes where her white blood count really went down low and she wouldn't eat much of anything for a few days; again having that extra weight helped get her through it. Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura B Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 8:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] Furry Laura update ?'s Hi All, I've been reading through this list, lots of great information! Been trying to chime in but having trouble keeping up with the fast pace lately, you are all very chatty :) Anyway, Laura, my FeLV + kitty is doing wonderfully. She had several days of loose stool, a few weeks back and I think it was from the vetri-science treats that I was giving her, they had lysine (she has herpes) and DMG in them. Once I stopped them, she firmed back up again. She's gained quite a bit of weight, my neighbor/pet sitter (who visits Laura daily) thinks it might be a bit too much. But honestly I think having a little bit of extra insulalation is good for her, gives her more of a buffer if she should become sick. What do you all think? She's not fat, but she is very solid and borderline a little chunky. She looks great, all of her fur has grown back (she had alot of bald patches when I got her) and her coat is shiny and dense. She eats a full can and 1/2 of wellness per day (5.5 oz can) plus I free feed dry wellness for her. Since I currently have a very sick 14 year old, who won't eat, I'm just thrilled that Laura's appetite is so healthy, maybe it's too much, but again, I think she needs a little extra meat on her on bones. Thanks in advance for any comments, Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Furry Laura update ?'s
yeah, i'd much rather have a slightly plumb FeLV than a scrawny one.. that's an excellent point, too, chris, about being able to see the change more easily when she DOES stop eating On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Tucson is a big cat but still a bit on the heavy side but you know, if she doesn't feel well, she instantly stops eating... Not only does it give me a signal something's wrong but that extra weight gives us a bit of time to figure out what's going on. Of course, she's a bit of a fusspot and what's going on could be she has an upset tummy, has hairballs, is annoyed at something or other--But she's had a couple of episodes where her white blood count really went down low and she wouldn't eat much of anything for a few days; again having that extra weight helped get her through it. Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura B Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 8:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] Furry Laura update ?'s Hi All, I've been reading through this list, lots of great information! Been trying to chime in but having trouble keeping up with the fast pace lately, you are all very chatty :) Anyway, Laura, my FeLV + kitty is doing wonderfully. She had several days of loose stool, a few weeks back and I think it was from the vetri-science treats that I was giving her, they had lysine (she has herpes) and DMG in them. Once I stopped them, she firmed back up again. She's gained quite a bit of weight, my neighbor/pet sitter (who visits Laura daily) thinks it might be a bit too much. But honestly I think having a little bit of extra insulalation is good for her, gives her more of a buffer if she should become sick. What do you all think? She's not fat, but she is very solid and borderline a little chunky. She looks great, all of her fur has grown back (she had alot of bald patches when I got her) and her coat is shiny and dense. She eats a full can and 1/2 of wellness per day (5.5 oz can) plus I free feed dry wellness for her. Since I currently have a very sick 14 year old, who won't eat, I'm just thrilled that Laura's appetite is so healthy, maybe it's too much, but again, I think she needs a little extra meat on her on bones. Thanks in advance for any comments, Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Furry Laura update ?'
Hi Laura I have to agree with Sharyl. I kept Junior a bit on the chunky side for the same reason. He went from a low weight of 10.5 pounds after being DX'd to about 12.5 pounds which was a little above his normal weight. He was still chunky when he was sent on his journey. I am glad he did not go through a wasting stage. He always had a good appetite. Sally ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Buzz anemia update
Marylyn I was so sorry to hear about your Dixie. When I first started on this list I remember you saying how special she was to you. It must have been so awful to lose her! Every time we lose one of our friends it's like they take a piece of us with them. I just lost my Tucker on May 31 and it still hurts so much. How did you fix the liver? Was it chicken liver or beef liver? I have Pet-Tabs vitamins that I have been mixing in with tuna and feeding him for the last couple of days. They say there is 5.0 mg of iron in each tablet. For the last couple of days it has seemed like Buzz has been just too tired to purr. On the deck tonight I was giving him a Reiki treatment and he started purring and kept it up for a while. He was rubbing his head against my hands like he was really enjoying it. I am going to take that as a good sign. Sue _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 7:42 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Buzz anemia update Try some liver. I gave it to a wonderful dog who was anemic and it helped. There are some vitamins (Pet Tinic comes to mind) that has iron in it too. Just ideas but sometimes we have to try whatever gives us any hope. Dixie developed anemia very quickly. It was regenerative but the suddenness and severity took her from me before we could get it reversed. She had wonderful care from her regular vets and from her holistic vet. If you have access to a holistic/alternative vet, you might contact her to see what she recommends. Good luck to you both. Remember, though, that the important thing is the love you give and the time you spend with your little friend. On Jul 28, 2008, at 6:21 PM, Sue Frank Koren wrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Buzz anemia update
On Jul 30, 2008, at 11:28 PM, Marylyn wrote: It has been 10 years since I fixed it for Mai Mai. I got beef liver, lightly cooked it the grinded it up. I froze it in muffin pans so I fixed quite a bit at a time. I am vegetarian so I tried to do a week or so supply. They are saying that liquids are better for absorption than pills if you can find some pet tinic. That is what we tried on Dixie. If you can't get it easily, www.amazon.com has it very reasonably. Mai Mai was a wonderful dog so she ate a lot more than a little cat. She was also very terminal so she pretty well got what she wanted. One of the holistic vets here recommended raw beef or buffalo/bison, preferably organic. Apparently the bison are raised with fewer drugs. Just a thoughtyou might grind some liver raw for him. Literally to a soup. It couldn't do harm that I can see. I fed Dixie Primal Raw and believe in a raw diet. If he eats it fine if not then try to cook some. Remember that the antibiotics may make him tired but do not attribute it all to that. Keep a very close watch on his gums. Good luck. On Jul 30, 2008, at 8:07 PM, Sue Frank Koren wrote: Marylyn I was so sorry to hear about your Dixie. When I first started on this list I remember you saying how special she was to you. It must have been so awful to lose her! Every time we lose one of our friends it’s like they take a piece of us with them. I just lost my Tucker on May 31 and it still hurts so much. How did you fix the liver? Was it chicken liver or beef liver? I have Pet-Tabs vitamins that I have been mixing in with tuna and feeding him for the last couple of days. They say there is 5.0 mg of iron in each tablet. For the last couple of days it has seemed like Buzz has been just too tired to purr. On the deck tonight I was giving him a Reiki treatment and he started purring and kept it up for a while. He was rubbing his head against my hands like he was really enjoying it. I am going to take that as a good sign. Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Buzz anemia update
Hello everyone - Today I got doxycycline from the vet. It came in 50mg capsules which I have to open up and divide in two. I mix half with water and give it to Buzzy in a syringe. Half a capsule every 12 hours. Tomorrow he goes for some kind of protein test and possibly set him up with a specialist for a transfusion. When I questioned the vet she said his anemia is not the non-regenerative kind. Doesn't that mean there is more hope? He is still eating fairly well. I have cooked him chicken, and I am mixing some vitamins in with tuna. I feed him a little bit as often as I can; he seems to eat more that way. In a little while I will take him out on the deck to sit in my lap for a while. He loves smelling the fresh air. I hope this message goes through to the list, this is my fourth try. Thanks for all the help, more suggestions are still appreciated. Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Buzz anemia update
Yes, non-regenerative is the bad kind of anemia. Regenerative means that his red blood cells still have the capability to regenerate, which is what he needs to survive. I would put my money on the doxy. So happy to hear that he's got his meds and has the better of the two types of anemia. Please keep us posted on sweet Buzz! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 6:21:27 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Buzz anemia update Hello everyone - Today I got doxycycline from the vet. It came in 50mg capsules which I have to open up and divide in two. I mix half with water and give it to Buzzy in a syringe. Half a capsule every 12 hours. Tomorrow he goes for some kind of protein test and possibly set him up with a specialist for a transfusion. When I questioned the vet she said his anemia is not the non-regenerative kind. Doesn't that mean there is more hope? He is still eating fairly well. I have cooked him chicken, and I am mixing some vitamins in with tuna. I feed him a little bit as often as I can; he seems to eat more that way. In a little while I will take him out on the deck to sit in my lap for a while. He loves smelling the fresh air. I hope this message goes through to the list, this is my fourth try. Thanks for all the help, more suggestions are still appreciated. Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Buzz anemia update
Try some liver. I gave it to a wonderful dog who was anemic and it helped. There are some vitamins (Pet Tinic comes to mind) that has iron in it too. Just ideas but sometimes we have to try whatever gives us any hope. Dixie developed anemia very quickly. It was regenerative but the suddenness and severity took her from me before we could get it reversed. She had wonderful care from her regular vets and from her holistic vet. If you have access to a holistic/alternative vet, you might contact her to see what she recommends. Good luck to you both. Remember, though, that the important thing is the love you give and the time you spend with your little friend. On Jul 28, 2008, at 6:21 PM, Sue Frank Koren wrote: Hello everyone - Today I got doxycycline from the vet. It came in 50mg capsules which I have to open up and divide in two. I mix half with water and give it to Buzzy in a syringe. Half a capsule every 12 hours. Tomorrow he goes for some kind of protein test and possibly set him up with a specialist for a transfusion. When I questioned the vet she said his anemia is not the non- regenerative kind. Doesn't that mean there is more hope? He is still eating fairly well. I have cooked him chicken, and I am mixing some vitamins in with tuna. I feed him a little bit as often as I can; he seems to eat more that way. In a little while I will take him out on the deck to sit in my lap for a while. He loves smelling the fresh air. I hope this message goes through to the list, this is my fourth try. Thanks for all the help, more suggestions are still appreciated. Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Buzz anemia update
I'm glad to hear Buzz is eating Sue and getting his medication. I truly hope things take a turn for the better with him and he gets to spend a longer time with you. But if it isn't meant to be, you and he just keep on enjoying that fresh air out on the deck and every minute you have together. My husband would put BooBoo inside his jacket and take him out for fresh air when he was with us. I so wanted him to live til the spring so he could sit out on the patio and watch the birds and enjoy the warmth. It still saddens me so much to think of his loss, even though we're now blessed with Snowball. I know what you are going through with all the confusion, treatments, hope for a good outcome and I commend you for you love of this little guy. Lynne - Original Message - From: Sue Frank Koren To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 7:21 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Buzz anemia update Hello everyone - Today I got doxycycline from the vet. It came in 50mg capsules which I have to open up and divide in two. I mix half with water and give it to Buzzy in a syringe. Half a capsule every 12 hours. Tomorrow he goes for some kind of protein test and possibly set him up with a specialist for a transfusion. When I questioned the vet she said his anemia is not the non-regenerative kind. Doesn't that mean there is more hope? He is still eating fairly well. I have cooked him chicken, and I am mixing some vitamins in with tuna. I feed him a little bit as often as I can; he seems to eat more that way. In a little while I will take him out on the deck to sit in my lap for a while. He loves smelling the fresh air. I hope this message goes through to the list, this is my fourth try. Thanks for all the help, more suggestions are still appreciated. Sue __ NOD32 3301 (20080727) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 3301 (20080727) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Buzz anemia update
Sue, some fresh air on the deck sounds like good medicine to me. Glad it is regenerative and you got the doxy. Usually when a kitty isn't feeling well several small meals per day are better. You might try crushing up a folic acid tablet and adding it to his food with the vitamins. My FeLV+ kitties get 200 mcg of folic acid/day just as a precaution plus their Super B Complex.. Sharyl --- On Mon, 7/28/08, Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] Buzz anemia update To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 7:21 PM Hello everyone - Today I got doxycycline from the vet. It came in 50mg capsules which I have to open up and divide in two. I mix half with water and give it to Buzzy in a syringe. Half a capsule every 12 hours. Tomorrow he goes for some kind of protein test and possibly set him up with a specialist for a transfusion. When I questioned the vet she said his anemia is not the non-regenerative kind. Doesn't that mean there is more hope? He is still eating fairly well. I have cooked him chicken, and I am mixing some vitamins in with tuna. I feed him a little bit as often as I can; he seems to eat more that way. In a little while I will take him out on the deck to sit in my lap for a while. He loves smelling the fresh air. I hope this message goes through to the list, this is my fourth try. Thanks for all the help, more suggestions are still appreciated. Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Buzz anemia update
It is so good to hear from you Sue. I've been hoping to see good news about Buzz. I'm praying that he can make a full recovery and that you can figure out a diet and supplement routine that will keep him stable. We're pulling for you. Please keep us posted. Jane On Jul 28, 2008, at 7:52 PM, Sharyl wrote: Sue, some fresh air on the deck sounds like good medicine to me. Glad it is regenerative and you got the doxy. Usually when a kitty isn't feeling well several small meals per day are better. You might try crushing up a folic acid tablet and adding it to his food with the vitamins. My FeLV+ kitties get 200 mcg of folic acid/day just as a precaution plus their Super B Complex.. Sharyl --- On Mon, 7/28/08, Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] Buzz anemia update To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 7:21 PM Hello everyone - Today I got doxycycline from the vet. It came in 50mg capsules which I have to open up and divide in two. I mix half with water and give it to Buzzy in a syringe. Half a capsule every 12 hours. Tomorrow he goes for some kind of protein test and possibly set him up with a specialist for a transfusion. When I questioned the vet she said his anemia is not the non- regenerative kind. Doesn't that mean there is more hope? He is still eating fairly well. I have cooked him chicken, and I am mixing some vitamins in with tuna. I feed him a little bit as often as I can; he seems to eat more that way. In a little while I will take him out on the deck to sit in my lap for a while. He loves smelling the fresh air. I hope this message goes through to the list, this is my fourth try. Thanks for all the help, more suggestions are still appreciated. Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: Smokey update
Kathryn what Smokey is going through sounds totally like the feline herpes virus, not really related to the leukemia problem. It of course can affect animals with a comprimised immune system and stress is the biggest contributor. If he is recovering nicely from this then I would think there is great hope for him. I thought once a cat had herpes they weren't immunized against it but I was wrong. My little girl got her shot before she was turned over to us and after she recovered from her health problems. I don't honestly know if they give this to Felv positive cats as mine didn't live long enough to find out. I guess it's like a flu shot and may lessen the severity of an outbreak. I know what you're going through, the highs and the lows. It can be a totally exhausting experience emotionally. As for emergency vets I can only speak of the one we had to go to on two occasions and in both instances we came home without our cats. I don't trust them but sometimes you have no choice. Keep us updated on Snokey's health. I think we all feel we have a stake in each and everyone of these little guys. Lynne - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:10 AM Subject: Re: Smokey update Hi Everyone, I had a real scare with Smokey over the weekend. I thought I was loosing him and I didn't even know if an emergency vet would treat him because of his disease. Do they?The good news is that I didn't need to find out, he's snapped out of it. I've been treating him for an upper respiratory problem and an eye infection. He also has ulcers on his mouth, poor boy! The little cat is a wreck, but he appears to have turned the corner. As of today, his mouth is healing, his eye isn't running and his breathing is nor mal. I do not want to get my hopes up too much, but I sure do want the little boy to stay with me. I can't believe how many tears I have shed for a little guy I've known less then two weeks. He's just so sweet. Is it normal for them to snap back so quickly? Is this a good sign that he might live a while? My vet says that he could live a few years and has even emailed me outdoor enclosures to look at. He was a stray and longs to be outside, so it would be nice for him to go outside once in a while. I really appreciate this site. It's wonderful to hear from people who know about this and also who understand. As with my horse, (he's a rescue, too) most of my friends think I am nuts for taking on this little cat. Thank you for listening, Kathryn -Original Message- From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 7:33 am Subject: Re: Welcome, Kathryn I didn't get your original email Kathryn. Welcome to ghe group. Is your cat showing any symptoms? How old is he? tonya Diane Rosenfeldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've come to a great place for information and support. Others have much more experience with these babies, but I can tell you that diet and stress control are paramount. If you can give your new guy (what's his name?) the best food possible and keep him as happy as possible, that's a great first step. You can also supplement his diet with L-lysine (from natural food stores, without the addit ives found in the kind you find in most drugstores, which is toxic to cats). Make sure your vet is knowledgeable on FeLV -- if he/she didn't immediately suggest euthanasia, that's a good sign. If he/she isn't, look around for one who is. Some people here like holistic vets, if there are some in your area, in addition to their regular vet. There's no way to know how long any of them will last. Some people here have kitties who have lived long and well with FeLV, and then there are some (like my Patches, who came to me as a stray, too, who only stayed with me six weeks.) What's important is to enjoy him every minute he's with you, fight the good fight together, but know when it's time to let go. Not easy, but doable. Go od luck with your guy. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 9:50 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Melina Please add to the CLS :( I am very sorry to hear of the passing of Melina. I am new to this site and really know nothing of this terrible disease. I have recently (just bringing him home from the vets today) adopted the sweetest little boy who sadly has this virus. He showed up a few days ago as a stray. My husband and I fell in love with him and took him to the vet for shots, etc. Sadly, we were informed that he has tested positive. I really do not know what this means. Any information will be greatly appreciated. I especially would like to know what I can
