Hi: One person having problems mailed in his, her, laptop to AI Squared for
analysis and a fix.
What were the problems being encounterd and the results of the analysis and
the fix if any?
This was a big hassle for the person involved and warrents a response me
thinks.
We all cant pack up our
Hi Rod:
First I have to figure out what to turn off and how:
here is the first article i read on the related subject:
It was for Windows 7 but gives a good overview of 3 states that may need to
be addressed I guess:
I think, I run a Desktop machine, I may have to turn off Hybrid sleep from
the
OK Rod: I set both the combo box settings to never so never hibernate and
never sleep I guess.
Not what I really want in case I want the machine to power save if I end up
away from it for a lengthly period but if it allows me to not lose speech I
guess worth the trade-off.
If it does not work I
lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 6:21 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: What Was Result Of Mailed In Laptop Test
Hi: One person having problems mailed in his, her, laptop to AI Squared for
analysis an
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 6:56 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Rod: Sleep Mode Situation
Hi Rod:
First I have to figure ou
Hi Again Rod:
Below article indicates that when the computer goes into sleep or hibernate
mode, still fuzzy on all this, that ram can be lost - sounds like something
that could cause the problems described in prior posts after a sleep
session. Think of WE loading something into ram memory, the
Indeed: You sending in your machine and them working out the problem was a
good effort on both parties part.
I like it when a plan comes together.
My philosophy is your fault, my fault, nobodys fault just get the job done
and done right.
Rick USA
-Original Message-
From: Talk
Hi Chris;
I have a Dell Optiplex 8 gig ram i7 intel processor.
I lose speech a few times a day and especially if I am switching between
applications too fast and try to navigate before I hear WindowEyes
responding.
That said, sometimes it just goes dead.
I just turned off sleep mode since that can
Hi Dave:
Yup, having an idea of how the sausage is made gives you a better insight
into what may be going on indeed.
I too have sat through meetings both hot and snoozy and found the same
things.
It is likely, in AI Squareds case, they want to fix the problem but it is
either too deeply embedded
Hi:
I just got up and my machine was asleep over night.
I quickly logged in and went to the internet, google via internet Explorer.
No speech with tabbing nor the arrow keys but some with the mouse so the
sound card was still active.
I closed IE and went back to the desktop and it read ok.
Tried
more helpful than this message.
Respectfully,
Tom
On 9/30/2015 6:53 PM, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote:
> This is an interesting note since I found some problems related to the mouse
> moving around.
> After tweaking some settings the problem has gone away but it indicates that
> Windo
Hi Brice:
Now that you mention it, I don't recall ever getting the WE Error window
when things locked up or I lost speech.
This, if the case, would be a big help if we could forward the OS status and
any messages to WindowEyes and something I would think would be a priority
if AISquared is having
This is an interesting note since I found some problems related to the mouse
moving around.
After tweaking some settings the problem has gone away but it indicates that
WindowEyes does things behind the scenes with the mouse pointer and in my
case may have been causing problems with reading and,
Finding a needle would be easy with a metal detector.
Not so much finding a problem of this nature in a software product.
It should be done, needs to be done but there are allot of moving parts to
the analysis of this problem.
That said, I cant imagine AISquared has not been able to replicate this
Hi Mark:
Ya, using the Microsoft Accessibility Properties for all Windows Winforms
projects is how they are designed. I usually just use the default roles and
set the other values like names to whatever values are appropriate.
The design of my forms use the standard Winforms controls and most work
Hi: Just floundered around Hulu some.
The arrow keys did not help much, mouse read more than they did and tabbing
found some things but mostely it was a mess.
Does anyone use Hulu+ with WindowEyes and can you do searches and pick
things like tv programs, series and individual shows?
Rick USA
Hi: I think it was Mike, might be wrong, who did the experimentation of
resolving a WE lockup by having his chess program run on a dedicated thread
- background thread most likely.
I was just mucking with my parallelized project this morning and considering
the possibility of WE running on a
Hi: Same here.
I have found that sometimes it pays to move very slowly through a page and
especially be careful if you are getting slow results and try a WE search
for something. I have had WE go dead as a dornail many times when trying to
perform a search.
This even usually locks up the keyboard
Hi: I just went to realtor.com and when the page started reading I hit the
ctll=-shift-s to start a search then the first letter of the word "results"
and after hitting the lettr WE told me no radio buttons on page so there was
a delay in the search box coming up and taking control of keyboard
Hi: This just happened to me as well.
I ReStarted WindowEyes and was able to exit IE 11 and continue working in
another program.
In that program some of the WindowEyes operations like tabbing and arrow
keys worked ok.
The ReadToEnd did not work at all.
I then attempted to go into Outlook and open
Hi: I am waiting to install Windows 10 until the new browser is fully
supported by WindowEyes so I don't have to muck with Chrome or somehow
keeping IE 11 after the Download and install or Upgrade or however it works.
I was wondering if anyone has heard about any timeframe regarding the Edge
Hi Steve:
First, For me clicking the Reinstate link in the e-mail telling me my
account had been disable seemed to work.
That said, it is risky to ever click on anything inside a e-mail message
unless you are 100 percent sure who the sender was.
Financial institutions include enough partial
Hi Steve, responding to your initial analysis with some suggestions:
Well, it is only sort of the provider since this doesn't happen to everyone.
Have you checked the Mailman Log Files to ensure it isnt happening to everyone?
If so what are the messages about why you were getting bounce backs -
/joseph.hudson.9404
Twitter
https://twitter.com/josephhudson89
On Aug 28, 2015, at 1:39 PM, Rick Thomas via Talk
talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:
Hi: Sorry to hear that. This is getting ridiculus and totally unnecessary
from some work I have done.
Since you are bounced you wont get
Hi Nick and others who are tired of this thread line:
Unless there is something for me to respond to specifically I am done with
this thread.
The problem has 2 outcomes, it will get fixed, it wont get fixed.
Simple as that at the bottom line.
Thanks to you and the others who are giving me a way
Sure Steve:
Later and have a good weekend.
Rick USA
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 11:36 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' talk@lists.window-eyes.com
I don't know about that but WindowEyes is a good piece of software and for
the most part works and is cheap if you get the Office version.
It needs some tlc from the staff, don't know if they are capable, but out of
the box it does allot and for the price is pretty good.
I use JAWS and Narrator as
Hi: I have not seen any postings from AI Squared about the likely source of
their bouncing problem.Perhaps they have not come through to me or perhaps
they are just not interested.
If you have heard anything on list let me know. I put some real work into
finding answers for them so would
Thomas via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com
mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:
Hi: Sorry to hear that. This is getting ridiculus and totally unnecessary
from some work I have done.
Since you are bounced you wont get this but you might if you get reinstated.
You might try contacting AI Squared
Hi: Sorry to hear that. This is getting ridiculus and totally unnecessary
from some work I have done.
Since you are bounced you wont get this but you might if you get reinstated.
You might try contacting AI Squared and asking why this keeps happening over
and over and don't let them tell you it is
you really think, with everything going on, that this should be their
most important priority? So it takes a couple of minutes to subscribe
again, is that really a big deal? That said, I am one of the lucky ones.
On 8/28/2015 12:10 PM, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote:
Hi: I have not seen any postings
. Please set me up again.
Ai fixed it
-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+vince=theyachtsalescompany@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 2:00 PM
To: 'joseph hudson'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: got cut off
owner and groups.io is better.
Regards, Marten
On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 16:19:39 -0400 Rick Thomas via Talk
talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:
Hi Again: Take a look at Free Lists as a e-mail provider.
Messages get put through almost instantly and they seem never to have any
problems.
I dont know
Thomas via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com
mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:
Hi: Sorry to hear that. This is getting ridiculus and totally unnecessary
from some work I have done.
Since you are bounced you wont get this but you might if you get reinstated.
You might try contacting AI Squared
Hi and Thanks Chris:
If you are using a e-mail provider lean on them using the technicals.
It is their responsibility to handle the plumbing indeed.
Rick USA
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Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author
and do not
Here is the first thing that came up when I googled this problem:
I dont know if it is the software they are using but it shows that control
of bouncing is most likely at the AI2 end and not at our end nor the IP Host
end.
Also, it doesnt address why the Talk list messages are being flagged as
Hi: Here is a lengthly discussion of black listing of e-lists and various
reasons why a server like AI2 Mailman may be experiencing the problems it
does and suggested solutions of several kinds including having a valid
e-mail address for ping backs from major IP Hosts if I remember the content
Hi: some time ago I downloaded and ran Firefox as my primary browser due to
WE and IE 11 crashes but ran into so many problems with flash and WE crashes
I switched back to Internet Explorer 11 as my primary browser.
Now all the sites I visit don't seem to recognize me - I have to log into
them
Hi: Some time either I changed or something changed, the way cookies were
deleted and was set to when the browser closes. I unchecked it and my first
test on Yahoo indicated an automatic logon so guess that was the culpret.
Man, I hate switching around to third party software it is just one work
Hi Dave: I am in between. I get allot of freeze ups especially in IE 11
using WindowEyes 9.1 and 9.2 but not all the time.
Allot depends on which Websites I am visiting and how cranky WindowEyes is
behaving when I go to them.
There have been several good ideas about this ranging from automatic
Hi Chris:
A friend told me that the major IP vendors will pping back when a message is
sent to them like from the AI2 e-mail server.
If they don't get a reply from a valid e-mail address they will bounce the
message back to AI2. At that point if Mailman is not set up properly then
that bounced
Hi Tom: Is that a part of where a IP host does security checks like ping
backs to ensure the sender has an actual active e-mail address and bounces a
copy back to the sending server if the ping back fails?
A friend told me about this but he didn't have a name for it and I didn't
know if this was
Hi: OK, no matter whatever the current method is can you tab around inside a
tool-tip or baloon?
There may be 2 or more buttons like cancel or execute now and what happens
depends on which button is clicked.
Just wondering since I don't get too many of them, perhaps I have this
feature turned off
Hi: In Outlook, using Brighthouse, my spam gets put into a spam folder on my
local machine but I have actually set it up to allow all spam to hit my main
InBox and just hit the delete key so don't have to go into the Internet
Control Panel for my e-mail account very often. When I have there is
=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 5:48 AM
To: 'Bill Belew' b...@mind.net; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
talk@lists.window-eyes.com; 'Rod Hutton' rod_hut...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Reading a tool tip
Hi: OK, no matter whatever
Hi: Happens here on my Windows 8.1 machine with WE 9.2 and IE 11.
The symptoms are losing speech, losing the up and down arrow keys and
usually the tabbing keys and sometimes the alt-tab function.
Sometimes the ctl-alt-w keys will bring it back but often only partially.
Sometimes firing up
Hi Manny:
That is interesting.
When a program runs in parallel mode it is suppose to have resources shared
among all the cpu processes via something like time slicing depending on the
priority of the program when it was started I think.
My initial thought might be that if the chess game sets the
back in and enabled the list again. I am using gmail so guess
it's not immune to gmail as well.
- Original Message -
From: Rick Thomas via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com
To: 'Danny' dpark13...@gmail.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
talk@lists.window-eyes.com; 'Kevin Huber' huber.kev
Hi: There is more and more software that runs multiple cores or virtual
processes out there including anything I write these days that would benefit
from multi-core processing techniques.
I do believe that when you create a task you can specify it use a single
assigned processor but I have not
Lets be clear. It means that the IP is bouncing the message back to the AI2
server but forwarding the message to the target computer unless AI2 disables
the users e-mail account based on their, AI2, Mailman property settings if a
fellow who discussed this with me is correct.
It is not, according
Hi Again: Just a thought...
If there is a way to set the priority of the WindowEyes task in a
multi-core, multi-threaded situation it would get more time, faster results,
than any programs running at normal priority settings.
Just a thought for you guys mucking with this and something I think
too many bounces
I got the same notice last week and had to hit reply, supposedly. I did and
still get the messages. Hope it wasn't some kind of hack.
www.harmonicaworkshops.com
www.woodeneyemusic.com
On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 16:41:28 -0400
Rick Thomas via Talk
the same notice last week and had to hit reply, supposedly. I did and
still get the messages. Hope it wasn't some kind of hack.
www.harmonicaworkshops.com
www.woodeneyemusic.com
On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 16:41:28 -0400
Rick Thomas via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Hi: responding to a post. Don't know what will work but we says I
have too many bounces and my e-mail is now going to be disabled.
If anyone gets this what is going on here?
What a piece of garbag...
Rick USA
-Original Message-
From: Talk
Hi: Today WE has decided to lock up in my Amazon attempts to navigate
between prime movies and tv ahows and in some desktop apps.
It seems in Internet Explorer that we gets stuck in some of the search
objects defined on the page as far as I can tell.
In my own desktop app it seems to just dying in
Hi: I was on the yahoo finance page looking at a balance sheet.
I tried to copy the contents using f8 but it copied the webpage down to the
balance sheet and not the stuff in the balance sheed which I set as the
selection start and end.
I tried this 3 times with the same results, the wrong content
Hi Guys and AI2 developers: In all visual controls in a windows forms
project there are accessibility settings that are stated by Microsoft to
supply information to screen readers so they can render the control
correctly.
I am looking at using a StatusStrip and StatusLabel controls which may be
Hi Guys: This can be handled by having the root set file and not allowing a
user to modify it directly.
A user could override or extend it in another file but the root content
always remains the same.
When an update comes in it replaces the root file but if the design is good
anything in the user
Hi: Is everyone having problems with WE not responding in the FileExplorer
under Windows 10?
Do we know what is causing the problem IE a script, WE root code base or
some setting?
Rick USA
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Hi: Yesterday I left my desktop for some time and it went into, I guess,
sleep mode.
WE 9.2 wouldn't read anything and it seemed locked up but I fired up
narrator and found it was the logon screen so logged on using narrator and
then windoweyes came up as usual.
But that problem is not unique to
Hi Chip: It is pretty much a full blown version of Visual Studio and is
free. It will replace the old Express versions but everything is in one IDE
as with the paid versions of Visual Studio. It also includes allot of
advanced features not included in the Express versions - I don't recall
which
Hi Guys: Has WindowEyes ever started looking at the standard Winforms
Controls for accessibility and their selectable Accessibility settings for
use with screen readers?
I am again considering the TabbedDocument, views, control and perhaps the
Winforms Grid control with lists or tables inside each
Hi Again:
Do you know if the developers at WindowEyes, AI2, have anyone developing
full-time using Visual Studio?
I just thought about this since I read something about another screen reader
having folks using Visual Studio full-time and thus their developers are
very aware of the windows controls
Hi: I have not downloaded VS 2015 yet.
I am building a large, complex project using Visual Studio Community Edition
2013 and will install VS 2015 after some time to let all the buggs get
rolled out of it if any.
The usual types of interfaces most financial analysts use is an excel style
layout
Hi Larry: No problem. A ongoing identification of problems with details is
how we will help nail down any accessibility issues that AI2 might address.
This has not cropped up for anyone else but since I had it happen when I was
screwing around with some Window
Eyes settings, not before and not
Hi: That happened to me a couple of times and like you I was lucky and found
them in the Recycle bin.
I don't know, it happened while I was having problems with WindowEyes so I
have no idea if it is a WindowEyes related thing or not.
It wasn't the OS cleaning up unused icons since one of them was
Hi: I find the same thing. Looks like they have it setup as some type of
tabbed page but I couldn't make heads or tails out of how to navigate it
with WE - in fairness I didn't try any other screen reader so it may, or
not, be a webpage problem or a WindowEyes problem but it was confusing and I
Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:34 AM
To: 'Baracco, Andrew W'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Loy'
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: For those with speech loss and crash issues
Hi
www.aisquared.com
-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 3:35 AM
To: 'Reg Webb' regw...@btinternet.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Hi Don: My e-mail I sent at 4:20 in the afternoon hit my inbox at 7:50 ish
so it took about 3 hours to go through.
I use Brighthouse.
My other messages on other lists continued coming through in a matter of
seconds so there does seem to be something diferent from other lists I am on
causing long
Hi: I just went to a yahoo finance news page, tabbed down quickly to avoid
perhaps locking up with the flash plugin message and was able to arrow down
and tab in the normal web page a few times.
I then did a find to look for the word providers and WindowEyes locked up.
I tried to fire up narrator
Hi: Whenever I go to the pages I use for financial analysis or financial
news I usually get a message that flash has crashed and I have to send it to
whoever and then lose the webpage I am on.
Sometimes I can tab and continue with the page but with other pages I just
end back in my root program or
Hi Don:
If you get this I am sending it at about 4:20 EST.
I sent a message about 10 minutes ago and so far it has not appeared in my
inbox but I see your message so perhaps you will get mine.
Good luck.
Rick USA
-Original Message-
From: Talk
I just tried DDG and it worked very well, was very clean and fast on my
initial run through.
My only question is about how it loads the pages it finds.
I noticed it kept adding the link, heading as usual, followed by either the
article or a preview of each article into the list of found results
Park
Fort Wayne, IN 46825
(802) 362-3612
www.aisquared.com
-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 4:42 AM
To: 'Mike Rogers' harpm...@gmail.com; 'Window-Eyes
/. Assuming you don't have Flash
disabled, a small Flash object will load on the page and display the version
of Flash being used. I hope this helps.
Regards,
Marc
-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+msolomon=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent
Hi: I am running Firefox latest edition I think.
After updating I get the message that The Adobe Flash PlugIn has crashed on
most every webpage.
I looked up this message and found instructions on trying diferent things to
fix it.
Most talk about going into the PlugIns MenuItem in Firefox and
Hi: Me too. 2 days ago the search started returning a 404 message to any
search for the labs accessibility page.
Another programmer and myself ran some tests and it looks like they have
finally taken that feature down pretty much completely other than the home
page - the search just wont work even
Hi: Try ReBooting the computer and then directly going to the page and read
it with Internet Explorer and, or, Firefox.
If it works most likely it is something like a WindowEyes script which was
not working properly or didn't load properly.
If it still doesn't work and you have it try JAWS to see
Hi Robbin: I found the same thing running windows 8.1.
It got so bad I switched to Firefox which works much better with WindowEyes
for the websites I use for my work.
Disappointing is putting it mildly for what is suppose to be a Microsoft
Partner.
I do not like using non Microsoft software am
Hi Bud:Often on sites in Internet Explorer I click links and nothing seems
to happen - no page reload or notification anything has changed. But, if I
redraw the screen and arrow down I often find new content that was added to
the page which was loaded or made visible by clicking on the link.
Hi Guys:
I copied the MyFile.zip and then pasted it into the message body and the zip
file was attached to the message.
The recipient got the message and the zip file was intact and he used it
without a problem.
This is easy enough to remember for an old fat blind guy I guess.
I also remember the
Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 6:57 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Attach zipped file to Outlook msg in windows 8.1
Hi: I am trying to attach a MyFolder.zip file
Hi: I am trying to attach a MyFolder.zip file to an e-mail but when I hit
alt tab to the attach file, navigate to the MyFile.zip and select it it
seems that Outlook is trying to insert the file(s) inside the zipped file
and the attachment fails with the can not find the file to attach message.
Hi Rod: Bloody good question.
If I upgrade to windows 10 what happens to WindowEyes? What about the
Elequence I purchassed from them?
Rick USA
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Monday, June
Hi Chip: I have the Office 365 version of WE.
The support I would require mostely revolves around what I consider
WindowEyes buggs or at best soft spots but if they decide it is not a bug
but how WindowEyes is designed to work I would have to pay for support even
if I consider bad design and
Hi Elizabeth et al:
(sorryElizabeth , I responded but it went to your private address so
duplicating for list)
I responded to you off list with some details but in short the platform is
not complete yet and I would only distribute it to folks whose background
would indicate they could benefit
Hi Dave: Not yet.
I am not even sure if you trade on the site itself or if you have to use the
desktop app they provide.
It will be some time before I can get to reviewing brokerages since I have
started a major programming project to upgrade my trading platform.
I might prefer to use a brokerage
Hi: What platform does AI2 use for development of WindowEyes?
Do they have any programmers working full-time in Visual Studio - the
Microsoft flagship cross-platform development platform?
I think it even has development tools for several cell phones, tablets and
laptops - not sure about these but
OK: I closed outlook and ReTyped a message and WE is working normally again.
Features? Forget it, improve WE stability, get rid of use of the mouse
behind the scenes and use it as a client input device, keyboard mouse
functions, as it was designed to be used and fix flash so there are not
major
Big lag trying to type this. Speeds slow down sometimes stops nasty need to
re boot I guess - another r request for feature - stability and sometime
hearing sveral things start reading tht offs
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Any views or opinions presented in this email are
OK, after the ReBoot WindowEyes seems to be working quickly and normally.
Why did it start locking up in outlook when trying to type into the prior
messages?
Again, it sounds like WE is slowing down and stopping while it tries to read
either from the beginning of the text or the line or the buffer
Indeed! I took much time to write a program to manage my stock brokerage
account e*trade, from the desktop per their suggestions about accessibility.
After much work and during my first test instead of entering my id and
password they popped up a captcha in addition so that puppy was put to
sleep.
Hi Peter: OK, so who pays the staff at AI2 if WE is free with a free office
package?
Behind the scenes this is a real problem in how much work gets done for any
software including a screen reader or available scripts or other software in
general.
Rick USA
-Original Message-
From: Talk
OK, how about fixing WindowEyes so it will not grab the Error Window when
editing code in the code editor window for Visual Studio.
WindowEyes stands alone with this problem and it was not there in the WE 8.x
versions if I remember correctly.
I have tried to script a solution but couldn't figure
Mouse is one of what I think are the underlying problems.
It appears WE uses the mouse behind the scenes to monitor dynamic events and
I think this causes stability issues.
Stop doing this and use another method and have the mouse for client input
as it is designed.
Rick USA
-Original
Hi Lloyd:
From Gods mouth to AI2 ears me hopes.
Rick USA
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 7:46 PM
To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking
Hi: This is another Microsoft flagship product like Visual Studio and in my
opinion these packages along with SQL Server Management Studio should be
pretty accessible for any Microsoft Partner.
Note how 90 percent of the desires on this thread are for free software
products indicating these folks
that windows
feature to see if it is reproducable.
What a hassle, good thing WindowEyes is pretty much free.
Rick USA
Rick USA
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 6:27 AM
Hi Guys:
OK, after having turned off the mouse voice setting the phantom speech went
away.
But, now when in some lists like the This Computer list of drives and
reviewing the Context Menuu or in my own program WindowEyes will sometimes
start reading a list item then stop, speech is cut off before
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