On Monday, April 03 dkotschessa posted:
Most of my zazen over the years I have done in half lotus, which is
sufficient. In the beginning I did full lotus before I found it was
not necessary.
Last night I decided I would try full lotus again. I have to say it
seemed better somehow. I just
In a recent TV news broadcast on the sentencing hearing of Zacarias
Moussaoui which is being conducted to decide whether or not he will be
executed it was reported that one of the major factors being considered is
the question of whether he is 'delusional' or a 'religious zealot'.
What is the
On 4/19/06, Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a recent TV news broadcast on the sentencing hearing of Zacarias
Moussaoui which is being conducted to decide whether or not he will be
executed it was reported that one of the major factors being considered is
the question of whether he
On Tuesday, April 25, 2006 Susan wrote:
Who knows, it [chanting] might even make more sense in a language you
don't
know! :)
Actually that's a very insightful statement. Chanting is not meant to 'make
sense'. 'Nonsense' syllables are the best - like 'OM' or 'MU'*. A foreign
language is
On Wednesday, May 03 Eugene wrote:
But if multi-tasking is 'allowed in Zen' (don't hit me for this
phrase...), what does the text of Suzuki mean that I cited in my
previous post?
I hit you one-hundred times!
Nothing is 'disallowed', but multi-tasking does not lend itself well to
being one
On Thursday, May 04 Eugene also wrote:
Dear Bill,
Everyone multi-tasks all the time. I think the discussion is not on
multi-tasking or not, but on the degree of multi-tasking. This makes
the discussion more complex than simply saying don't!.
Change the qualifier 'all the time' to 'some of the
On Thursday, May 04, Ahmed wrote:
Ahmed, Thanks for your posting. As usual I disagree with just about every
sentence you wrote. I won't go through your posting line-by-line, but have
picked out a few examples:
Multitasking is a task like eating, walking, going to school, studying or
talking to
On Friday, May 05, 2006 Blossom wrote:
Eugene, I thought your question was wonderful and thought-provoking.
Please do not let the ugly words of someone like Jarvis hurt you; they
are only words and can be washed away like sand into the sea. He
speaks of your hurt and violation and sadness but
On Saturday, May 06 Eugene Wrote:
And the practical approach in Ahmeds longer posting (9917), where he
describes his handling boredom in classrooms, seems very OK to me. I
can not judge how Zen masters would agree to his approach, but I
think that is exactly how to handle these kind of
On Saturday, May 06 Eugene Wrote:
They also convince my idea that, despite some disappointments, an
open, even naive, attitude to the world ('empty' in Zen texts???) is
well feasible and best for all.
I think you're on the right track here. A non-Buddhist Bodhisattva once
said 'you have to
On Sunday, May 07, 2006 Eugene wrote:
Bill, I think this is a word-game. What does it mean if something
is 'not allowed'?
Eugene, You may be right about the word-game. I've been accused (and
perhaps guilty) of that before. The words 'allowed' and 'helpful' do mean
very different things to
From Jarvis: Some numbers seem to show up more than others in various
religions. Where is the common source? Is there one?
Actually there are 72 sources for religious numbers...Bill!
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From: donald hwong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Okay, here we go... Is there an objective or not?
DaveK wrote:
To what?
...to any of Jarvis' posts.
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Donald wrote:
I apologize for not being clear on the question. I am the newest member to
the group. The moderator, I guess is Jarvis, sent me a few articles to read
and encouraged me to ask questions and participate in the discussion.
After I read zen.pdf, Wu-Ming and Instructions of Meditation,
The New Al? Naw! That's not cool at all.
How about Mondo Al?
...Bill!
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On Thursday, June 15 Al wrote:
Grow up and get over it.
Is this actually Al, the moderate moderator, that wrote this - or could it
be Tr*v*s creeping back from the e-netherworld?
Empty minds want to know...Bill!
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On Thursday, June 15 Zen Warrior wrote:
My only concern with allowing the entire world as we
know it an inner peek at our discussions, is the
safety factor. [...balance snipped...]
You bring up some valid points concerning privacy and the internet.
Personally I don't share your concerns because
On Friday, June 16 donald hwong wrote:
Hey! A real posting! Thanks Donald. I'm in your debt. My high-speed
response follows:
With Palms together,
With palms spread out over my keyboard,
Zen is defined as the universal life force and wisdom. It emcompasses all.
Zen is not definable. Any
On Saturday, June 17 enroute05 (Frank) wrote:
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Intro
[Frank...]Hello, Bill, and thanks for the welcome.
[Frank...]I stayed at Wat Ram Poeng while in Thailand, up near Chiang
Mai...snip...
[Frank...]Before that I'd spent several months on two
On Monday, June 19, 2006 JasonZavoda wrote:
[JasonZ...]Should I just jump in or was this directed toward just one
person?
Please feel free. This is an open forum and all are welcome at anytime.
Thanks for your post...Bill!
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On Tuesday, June 20 kahtychen wrote:
[kahtychen...]Ok, I've got the jist of the Three Treasures, the Four Noble
Truths,
the Five Aggregates, and the Eightfold path, ... now, please, what
are:
The Two Vehicles?
The Three Realms and their Nine Grounds?
The Three or more Domains?
The Three Natures,
On Tuesday, June 20 kahtychen wrote:
[Kahty...]Zen is five ... and six, ... and sometimes even fifty one.
Yesterday
when I was doing dishes, zen was fourteen.
Beautiful! Crisp! To-the-point. No clouds. No fog. No smoke and
mirrors.
Thank you...Bill!
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On Wednesday, June 2 Frank wrote:
[Frank...]Donald'statement that everything happening in this universe is
part of this one - misleads because it makes one an object to
be desired and comprehended. It sets up an I-thou that won't be
resolved till the duality is erased - and ordinary language
On Wednesday, June 21 rbs000 (Ian) wrote:
[Ian...]One, five, fifty one... I also don't see why we need to attach too
much importance to one. It seems to me that if the mind
makes one then there's one. If the mind makes two then
there's two. And when the mind isn't making one or two or
even
On Wednesday, June 21 donald hwong (JMJM) wrote:
[...introductory portion snipped...]
[JMJM...]Is there a disconnect in the teachings after 2500 years? Is there
one true which is also all? Or is it important?
Importance is a relative term.
For those who wish to paint-by-number these teachings,
On Thursday, June 22 donald hwong (JMJM) wrote:
[JMJM...]After BodhiDharma brought the teaching without words and
formalities to China, this Buddhist teaching is slowly mixed with the
Daoiest teaching, which states, Any description of path is not the path.
This mix is then called Chan. then
On Thursday, June 22 woof puppy wrote:
[woof...]I found a song that I feel really captures the
Buddhist message. Sometimes I listen to it to help
ground myself.
Gone by Switchfoot
[woof...]She told him she'd rather fix her makeup
than try and fix what's going on
But the problem keeps on calling
On Saturday, June 24 JMJM wrote:
[JMJM...]I have checked with Taiwan. I am sorry to inform you that our
groupd don't have any facility or teacher in Thailand. However if you do
have an opportunity to travel to Taiwan, I will make arrangement for you to
visit two or three different Chan Schools.
On Thursday, August 03, 2006 Rob wrote:
Yes! Donald, that was exactly my next question. What's competent,
and do I recognize it when I see it? :-)
Just find someone who's not drowning and isn't clinging to the side of the
pool.
If Buddhism is the middle path, maybe I'll throw out only half my
On Wednesday, August 09, 2006 kahtychen wrote:
Kahty, Thanks for this post.
To me, the more interesting questions raised by the film concerns our
interest in using scientific language to prove our consciousness and
validate our physical and metaphysical experiences (think intelligent
design!!).
On Sunday, August 13, 2006 Ian and I (Bill!) had the following exchange:
Ian:
Bill!
Is there spirituality in Zen?
Bill!:
Ian,
Yes.
I was very surprised (and disappointed) that no one called me out for giving
a 'yes' or 'no' answer to this question when in my posting just previous to
this I
On Monday, September 11 Donald Hwong wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Every since I supplement Bill's statement by saying something
like, all words and concepts are irrelevant to our practice,
including this discussion group. This place became quiet. Hmmm,
that is no fun. It is time to mess up
Of dkotschessa
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006
11:17 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Zen] Re: Is religion the
problem?
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Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED].. wrote:
This is just the yin/yang of the zen forum. Sometimes it's hot; and
sometimes it's
This recent posting made absolutely no sense to me. In fact I didn't even
bother to attach it to this posting since I really saw no use in doing so.
Did anyone have any idea what this posting was talking about?
...Bill!
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On Sunday, November 12, 2006 siobhansbabe1 wrote:
Just a little note to let you know that a video clip
of Zen Master Jian Liao's 1st episode of his teaching
On Meditation is here, along with some still photos
of him and our other guests (in the Heroes Section):
Are any of Master
On Friday, November 17 Mrs. JDK wrote:
My question to all is: Is there a directional pull on this planet
when it comes to faceing when you meditate?
There are all kinds of 'directional pulls' on this planet: gravitational,
electromagnetic and perhaps even some kinds of physic or metaphysical
Sorry for the botched and then duplicate postings. There must have been
some kind of cyber-pull on my MS Outlook. From now on I'll post facing the
opposite direction...Bill!
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Perplexed:
Donald posted a very good reply to your questions from a Buddhist
perspective, but since this is a zen forum, I'll have to reply also from a
zen perspective:
Dignity and Morality are functions of the ego, and as such fall into the
category of samsara (illusions). They are not
Donald wrote:
Giant hats-off to you, Bill.
(Is this English correct?? Is it hat off or hats off? With or without dash?
Honestly?)
Your English is correct! The way you've used it, 'hats-off' is a compound
word. That's two or more words used together as a single word. English
allows you
Wanghualia_5 wrote:
I am Gay, and I practice zazen. Is there any sangha or Zen Temple for
Gay/lesbians?
All zen sanghas are for all people. I have never heard of any zen group
that restricts or focuses its membership on any specific classification of
people. To do so would be to reinforce
Bill Smart wrote:
All zen sanghas are for all people. I have never heard of any zen
group that restricts or focuses its membership on any specific
classification of people. To do so would be to reinforce the erroneous
idea that Buddha nature or the way to realize it is not the same in
all
Curt wrote:
A person asks a simple question about finding a Sangha (see below).
Either answer the question or keep your deluded psychological
projections to yourself. It sounds like you should have continued to lurk.
Hey, ease up at bit on Kathy. We like to encourage our lurkers to join in
How about.?
1. Get a Life! - anonymous
2. Poor, poor, pitiful me. - Warren Zevon
3. If you're scared dude, stay home! - Pizza Dude
Kathy's original straight-line was:
Does anyone have three or so short, but poignant quotes regarding
compassion? Something from a great
Kathy, Okay - now I'm seriously going to try to address your question.
It's an interesting question. I thought a lot about it and really can't
come up with the type of philosophical or warm-'n-fuzzy quote you're
probably looking for. I know zen just doesn't put a lot of value on
philosophy,
Kathy,
I talked to a friend of mine about this and he gave me a little different
perspective. He reminded me that zen in the West has been very heavily
influenced by Japanese and Korean zen, both of which are expressions of very
macho cultures. The West also is pretty macho so it was an easy
Pascal,
I don't disagree with your conclusion, but isn't most of everything in
America smoke and mirrors? Such as Christianity, Islam, Democracy,
Capitalism, Socialism, Personal Freedom, Human Rights, etc.
The American expression of Zen is no different than these; but, like all of
these, if you
Most zen groups do practice zen and an expression of Buddhism. There have
been hard-core Christians (the Catholic monk Tomas Merton comes to mind)
that have incorporated zen into their expression of Christianity. Of course
there's lot of examples of non-sectarian zen practitioners - Alan Watts
Anthony Wu wrote:
Yes, the Satan you worship is your self. The better way is to have others
worship you. Either case, you cannot get rid of suffering, which is the
objective of Zen.
Anthony, I agree. I also believe the (God, Buddha, Krishna, Ganeesh,
Empiricism, Fill-In-The Blank) you
Al, Are you trying to woo us into this Wu-Wu Zen; or does this most recent
posting of yours just amount to nothing?
.Bill!
From: Anthony Wu 'wu' in Chinese, or 'mu' in Japanese, means 'nothing'. I
don't understand you, or maybe you don't want me or anybody to understand.
Wouldn't
Al, Welcome to the Zen Forum!
As you can tell by scanning the postings over the past several weeks there
has not been much action except the reason short exchanges prompted by Tony
Wu's posting. I hope you'll feel free to engage whenever there are postings
of interest, and I encourage you to
Topezdragon_42,
Thinking, whether it be Western or Eastern, does not have anything MISSING.
Thinking, when not put in proper perspective, ADDS a lot of activity that is
unnecessary and misleading.
All that is necessary to practice zen is to sit (do zazen - zen
meditation). To sit means just
Mayka wrote:
Dear Bill:
Do you feel yourself as an enlightened person?. It seems as my piece
of written has offended your ego. Sorry, I didn't mean!.
Mayka, In a very recent post you wrote:
We are not enlightened, why then we should be so dull and pretend something
that we are not?.
In my
Mayka wrote:
When we are hungry, we eat
When we are thirsty, we drink
when we are tired of living, we die.
Mayka
When we are hungry, we eat.
When we are thirsty, we drink.
When we are living, we live.
When we are dieing, we die.
.Bill!
Mayka wrote:
Friends you seems so solemn and strict in your all practice that you
have nothing to share!.
Love from
Mayka
What about our solemnity and strictness? Haven't we already shared that
with you?
.Bill!
Allen, It sounds like you did very well. Your body and your mind are not
separate. Just as you sit to quiet-down your mind, you also sit to relax
your body; both are one. As you continue sitting these things will happen
naturally and will not need to be forced.
However, this is not medieval
Makya wrote:
Thich Nhat takes seriously whatever it needs to be taken seriously.
But what in the soho tradition is taken too over seriously, Thich
Nhat Hanh will say Breathe friends, relax, you are alive. Smile and
enjoy it!. and don't take as seriously your practice that you put
others off!
Mayka wrote:
I am you
You is me
We are One
Mayka
I am me,
You are you,
One is.
.Bill!
Mayka,
The poem I wrote back to you was not a correction; it was a response. I was
like a song where you sing one verse and I sing another. In its extreme
form in the Japanese tradition this is called Dharma Combat. It is when one
zen practitioner expresses their understanding and another
Mayka wrote:
Aspiration is free of desire. It is like when you see a living Buddha,
you would like to became one but you are not caught in that desire.
There is no attachment in aspiration.
Why do you believe you are not a living Buddha yourself, and that there is
nothing else that you need
Mayka,
Every morning I begin a journey. Every night the journey ends.
Mayka wrote:
Dear Bill
At the end you or me or the both us lost the real point which is
shows how useless and what a waste of time trying to explain things
to people who have already many preconcepts in their minds. Yes I
farah1_a, my comments are embedded below:
On Saturday, March 24, 2007 8:00 and 8:02 and 8:07 and 8:12 and 8:20 and
8:36 PM farah1_a posted:
Deos anyone know about the concept of work and dicipline in Zen?
There are no concepts in zen, only here and now - that's the point of zen.
How
On Saturday, March 24, 2007 8:43 PM and many other times before this
farah1_a posted:
How one can get rid of constant fear and insecurity using zen?
You do this the same way you do everything in zen - you sit. If you empty
your mind you will have no fear and insecurity.
Does anyone know that
[Al poked Bill at with:] I apologize to Bill for thinking he knew the
ASS-U-ME parable.
Were you 'thinking' as in 'assuming' I knew the parable; or 'thinking' as in
'not having an empty mind'; or both?
.Bill!
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Lulando wrote:
Well, can we have the parable, please?
I know it as a quote from Thomas Harris
If you assume, you make an ass out of you and me (ass - u - me)
Any more to that?
There's no more to it than that as far as I know. I didn't even know it was
from a quote by Tomas Harris. Al is the one
MU!
.Bill!
Sometimes a bull, sometimes an ox, but always MU!
Anthony wrote:
Are you a bullo or an ox?
Anthony
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MU!
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Mayka wrote:
Dear Bill:
What an extraordinary question you ask!
I'm a zen buddhist practicioner. What is the difference between Bill
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Thanks for the advice. I'm trying to practice Zen myself.
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To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 5:06:17 AM
Subject: [Zen] Re: beginning again
I have not had any experience with the Zen Tarot deck. I did try once
try one of those big liquid-filled Eight Balls with the little window
that shows the answer to your question; but all I kept getting was
ANSWER HAZY - TRY AGAIN LATER.
...Bill!
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for right now, But I'll share my
expreiences with the group. Would that be Ok?
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From: Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 4:51:26 AM
Subject: [Zen] Re: beginning again
I practice by myself also
I recently made some postings that caused some participants
unpleasantness. Sometimes that's okay, and I certainly have been
know to purposely rattle a few cages, but in these recent postings
that was not my intent. So...I would like to clarify my past and
future postings as follows:
I do
The whole point of this thread was to suggest people just LIGHTEN UP
about the Zen Forum.
It's just a forum. It's like going down to your local public park,
sitting on a bench with 5 or 6 strangers, and engaging in a
discussion about football, or the NBA, or politics, or zen. In fact
an
Donald Hwong,
You're right, of course, and I wrestle with this each time I sit down
to write a post - how can I best express my buddha nature in this
medium?
The problem is that this forum is a words-based forum, and zen is not
best communicated via words. Worse than that it's a text-base
and write a poem. You could start with, There was an
old man called Bill who.. etc etc.
Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Donald Hwong,
You're right, of course, and I wrestle with this each time I sit
down
to write a post - how can I best express my buddha
Because we two have opened our lock(s).
Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's true. Poetry uses words and text, but does not
necessarily
depend on rationality. How about a haiku?
Young fox pokes old bear,
Bear smiles, revealing long fangs,
Fur flies, brown and red
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anatmanwave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Same thing, Zen
comes from Chan from the Chinese, they morphed it
from India.
Just a matter of semantics but subject is the same.
Guy
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What is the relationship, if any, between zen
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Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 12:47:42 AM
Subject: [Zen] Caveat Emptor
I recently made some postings that caused some participants
unpleasantness. Sometimes that's okay, and I certainly have
Ooops!
That was not a TRICK question. I meant to ask:
Can you practice zen without being buddhist? If NO, why? If YES,
why?
...Bill!
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Mike and Guy, Thank you for your responses.
Let me ask this question
My house is spotless,
Zen is nowhere to be found,
What stinks? My finger!
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Haiku .357
Glock 3-3,
Loaded, safety off,
Would you like a cup of tea?
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bullet,
Hole where head should be,
Hot tea refreshes the World.
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Glock 3-3,
Loaded, safety off,
Would you like a cup of tea?
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ZenBob,
You wrote:
Here is a Haiku:
Please join me for tea,
Sweet is the nightengale song
Glock locked, loaded.
This is 5-7-4, not 5-7-5.
or:
Tea n' trajectory,
The silver moon rises fast
My Glock is more swift.
This one is 6-7-5.
or:
Would you like a scone
With your warm
Al, I liked this one! ...Bill!
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Of Al
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 10:16 PM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Zen] Rap Tanka
OK, this is coming from Cypress Hill:
5-7-5-7-7 (OK maybe not)
Move to a different carriage…Bill!
When the old drunk guy sitting next to you on the train farts and shits himself
and the odour fills the carriage - are you going to cleanse your chakras or
what else are you going to do?
Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Koan is for
Okay! Cool! .Bill!
I think I corrected this in an earlier post ('slug' instead od bullet) to
conform to the .357 'magnu,' form. But it's all a work in progress...
Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This Haiku is 4-5-7. What gives? ...Bill!
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I’m already here!
Me too! But it's 'how' we move which determines the zen..
Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Move to a different carriage…Bill!
When the old drunk guy sitting next to you on the train farts and shits himself
and the odour fills the carriage - are you going to cleanse your
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Kirbo
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:18 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Zen Koans
[…stuff cut…]you can imagine your companion to be a beautiful and charming
young lady (or
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 ZenBob wrote:
It is neither correct nor incorrect to
state that if one practices Zen that one does not make choices. As
humans, we make choices, and practicing Zen is a choice.
If we then choose to practice Zen, then our Zen Mind, and Zen Bones,
follow that
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 ZenBob wrote:
No, absolutely no. You fail to understand the manner of human thinking.
We cannot say don't think of an elephant and not think of an elephant --
even the act of attempting to negate that thought is the formation of that
thought.
Understanding the manner of
On Thursday, January 03 Mike Brown wrote:
Hi Bill. I don't have much to say about your words regarding sentient
beings, Christianity and Enlightenment because I think our views are in
accord. However, I'd just like to add that in discussions about zen and the
bodhisattva ideal there is often some
Jeff,
First of all, WELCOME TO THE YAHOO! ZEN FORUM. We're all beginners
here, so I hope you will feel right at home.
Since you're a newbie, I'll be especially gentle with you. My
comments on your posting are imbedded below:
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This is a test posting using email. Disregard.Bill!
Fajian is not SPAM. He is a regular contributor. He's just plugging his
other Yahoo Forum. We do get SPAM from time to time, but Al, our 3-headed
Cerberus, gets rid of them pretty quickly.
But to answer your question below, this is a bogus zen forum.
.Bill!
From: diablodrakul
On Thursday, January 10 Jue Miao Jing Ming wrote:
Bill, you are right. Yet Hanh is not wrong.
Ten thousand dharma for ten thousand hearts. Each is a beauty in itself.
Ferrying sentient beings from a formed domain into a formless domain is always
a challenge.
We can only seed the cause
Boo who? ...Bill!
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... boo!
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I can live with no death. But is life worth living with no Zen Forum
posts?
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Bill wrote:
Boo who?
Why are you upset?
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sedation takes me thru' the leaner times. Boo hoo (who).
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From: Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 14 January, 2008 10:33:04 PM
Subject: [Zen] Re: no death
I can live with no death
Is this 200 HUMAN years? Or DOG years? ...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, dhammastudents [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Anti-aging or reverse unhealthy cells with Nano technology to create
zero energy or also known as scalar energy .
Zazen will do this for you. You can live 200 years.
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