Re: Getting my iCloud backup onto a new phone

[Gerardo Corripio]

as soon as you first power on your new toy, (phone), it'll ask you that there's 
a phone from which data can be transferred. Follow the steps, and in no time at 
all, you'll have everything on the new IPhone! You'll be surprised that (at 
least in my case), you'll hardly need to log-in to apps, and your music will be 
on your new phone too! Good luck!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 13 mar 2022, a la(s) 9:23 p.m., Dennis Long  
> escribió:
> 
> Your best bet will be to do a phone to phone transfer.
> 
> 
> 
> Dennis Long
> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro
> 
>>> On Mar 13, 2022, at 11:18 PM, Kevin Minor  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi.
>>  
>> Tomorrow, I’m getting an iPhone 13 Max to replace my X. I have my current 
>> phone backed up in iCloud. I’d like this to be on my new phone. What do I do 
>> to get this working?
>>  
>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>>  
>> Kevin and Jilly
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Re: Getting my iCloud backup onto a new phone

[Dennis Long]

Your best bet will be to do a phone to phone transfer.



Dennis Long
Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro

> On Mar 13, 2022, at 11:18 PM, Kevin Minor  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi.
>  
> Tomorrow, I’m getting an iPhone 13 Max to replace my X. I have my current 
> phone backed up in iCloud. I’d like this to be on my new phone. What do I do 
> to get this working?
>  
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>  
> Kevin and Jilly
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Getting my iCloud backup onto a new phone

[Kevin Minor]

Hi.

Tomorrow, I'm getting an iPhone 13 Max to replace my X. I have my current phone 
backed up in iCloud. I'd like this to be on my new phone. What do I do to get 
this working?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Kevin and Jilly

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Re: What are the pros and cons of a previous iPhone to new iPhone wireless data transfer setup versus setting up a new iPhone from an iCloud backup of the previous iPhone?

[Kelly Pierce]

In the past, the downside of restoring data through iCloud was that
iCloud did not back up music. A wireless or computer backup was the
only way to move everything from one iPhone to another. Now in iOS 15,
Apple has created three weeks of extra iCloud storage for moving all
data from one iPhone to another. It is unclear if this includes videos
and music. Even if it did, it would seem the time needed to upload
tens of gigabytes of data and then to download all that data would be
longer with the new iCloud transfer than the wireless transfer with
the two phones sitting next to each other.

Kelly




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>
> I am curious about the following.
>
> What are the pros and cons of a previous iPhone to new iPhone wireless data
> transfer setup versus setting up a new iPhone from an iCloud backup of the
> previous iPhone?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Keith
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What are the pros and cons of a previous iPhone to new iPhone wireless data transfer setup versus setting up a new iPhone from an iCloud backup of the previous iPhone?

['Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone]

Hi,

I am curious about the following.

What are the pros and cons of a previous iPhone to new iPhone wireless data 
transfer setup versus setting up a new iPhone from an iCloud backup of the 
previous iPhone? 

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RE: New SE2020 Setting up from ICloud backup, or via phone transfer?

[Richard Turner]

It was faster for me going phone to phone.
But, results may vary.



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 6:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: New SE2020 Setting up from ICloud backup, or via phone transfer?

Since I’ve music on my old SE that I don’t care if it gets transferred onto the 
new one (I can always connect to ITunes and transfer it that way to the new 
phone at a later date), what advantages do you guys see setting up the new SE 
from an ICloud backup, versus from phone to phone transfer? Is one way quicker 
than the other? Thanks in advance for info.


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New SE2020 Setting up from ICloud backup, or via phone transfer?

[Gerardo Corripio]

Since I’ve music on my old SE that I don’t care if it gets transferred onto the new one (I can always connect to ITunes and transfer it that way to the new phone at a later date), what advantages do you guys see setting up the new SE from an ICloud backup, versus from phone to phone transfer? Is one way quicker than the other? Thanks in advance for info.   Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10 



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Re: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup

[Joshua Hendrickson]

My iPhone 8 is my only device.  I see no reason to get an iPad or iPod.

On 10/19/19, Dave  wrote:
> I think, it depends on the bugs.
>
> If it's someones only device, and the voiceover crashing issue, has not been
>
> fixed. Then that can be more than a pain to say the least.
>
> People choose to become beta testers. But for us that don't. Then we don't
> want to have a phone, with these kinds of problems.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 4:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup
>
> I somewhat understand if somebody wants to wait a month or two after a new
> version of iOS comes out until most of the bugs are ironed out, but much
> beyond that there is absolutely no reason which makes any sense not to
> upgrade, certainly by the time Christmas or the new year comes around
> everybody should be on the latest version of iOS. Apps get updated and
> typically work best with the latest version of iOS, you will get the best
> support from Apple and of course have the latest security patches.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave
> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 8:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup
>
> I agree. It would have been much better, to be on 12.4.1, than iOS 11. But
> now you don't have that choice.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 4:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup
>
> I suspect staying on iOS 11 is the cause for all your headaches.
> Now, I also suspect that you either stay stuck, call Apple Accessibility, or
>
> update to iOS 13.1.3 which has its own set of headaches.
>
> If you have not yet, called Apple Accessibility, that is the absolute next
> thing to do.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>  Live long and prosper
>
>
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> kelby
> carlson
> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 7:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup
>
> No, I never updated to iOS 12.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Dave  wrote:
>>
>> are you sure, you don't mean, 12.4.1?
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: kelby carlson
>> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 2:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup
>>
>> I am on iOS 11.4.1. I have reset multiple times with the same issue.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:28 AM, Feliciano Godoy
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ah. Shouldn’t be. What version you on? If it appears, I suggest you
>>> reset
>>> iphone again and give it another shot.
>>> Feliciano
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>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
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Re: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup

[Dave]

I think, it depends on the bugs.

If it's someones only device, and the voiceover crashing issue, has not been 
fixed. Then that can be more than a pain to say the least.


People choose to become beta testers. But for us that don't. Then we don't 
want to have a phone, with these kinds of problems.


Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 4:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup

I somewhat understand if somebody wants to wait a month or two after a new 
version of iOS comes out until most of the bugs are ironed out, but much 
beyond that there is absolutely no reason which makes any sense not to 
upgrade, certainly by the time Christmas or the new year comes around 
everybody should be on the latest version of iOS. Apps get updated and 
typically work best with the latest version of iOS, you will get the best 
support from Apple and of course have the latest security patches.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 8:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup

I agree. It would have been much better, to be on 12.4.1, than iOS 11. But 
now you don't have that choice.


Dave.


-Original Message-
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 4:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup

I suspect staying on iOS 11 is the cause for all your headaches.
Now, I also suspect that you either stay stuck, call Apple Accessibility, or 
update to iOS 13.1.3 which has its own set of headaches.


If you have not yet, called Apple Accessibility, that is the absolute next 
thing to do.




Richard

 Live long and prosper


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kelby
carlson
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 7:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup

No, I never updated to iOS 12.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 19, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Dave  wrote:

are you sure, you don't mean, 12.4.1?



-Original Message- From: kelby carlson
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 2:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup

I am on iOS 11.4.1. I have reset multiple times with the same issue.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:28 AM, Feliciano Godoy 
wrote:

Ah. Shouldn’t be. What version you on? If it appears, I suggest you reset
iphone again and give it another shot.
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ones who do. -Steve Jobs


On Oct 19, 2019, at 6:16 AM, kelby carlson 
wrote:

I am not yet running iOS 13.1.3. Is it a requirement to have iOS
up-to-date to restore from iCloud?

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:12 AM, kelby carlson 
wrote:

That was an incorrect subject line. It is iCloud that isn't working.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:04 AM, Feliciano Godoy
 wrote:


Hi,
So...
you did a icloud back up and not a iTunes back up on computer? Try
going through the process on iPhone, should have iCloud back up there
to restore.Feliciano For tech tips and updates:
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RE: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I somewhat understand if somebody wants to wait a month or two after a new 
version of iOS comes out until most of the bugs are ironed out, but much beyond 
that there is absolutely no reason which makes any sense not to upgrade, 
certainly by the time Christmas or the new year comes around everybody should 
be on the latest version of iOS. Apps get updated and typically work best with 
the latest version of iOS, you will get the best support from Apple and of 
course have the latest security patches.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 8:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup

I agree. It would have been much better, to be on 12.4.1, than iOS 11. But now 
you don't have that choice.

Dave.


-Original Message-
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 4:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup

I suspect staying on iOS 11 is the cause for all your headaches.
Now, I also suspect that you either stay stuck, call Apple Accessibility, or 
update to iOS 13.1.3 which has its own set of headaches.

If you have not yet, called Apple Accessibility, that is the absolute next 
thing to do.



Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kelby 
carlson
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 7:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup

No, I never updated to iOS 12.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Dave  wrote:
>
> are you sure, you don't mean, 12.4.1?
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: kelby carlson
> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 2:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup
>
> I am on iOS 11.4.1. I have reset multiple times with the same issue.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:28 AM, Feliciano Godoy  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Ah. Shouldn’t be. What version you on? If it appears, I suggest you reset 
>> iphone again and give it another shot.
>> Feliciano
>> For tech tips and updates:
>> LIKE
>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.facebook.com%
>> 2Ftheblindman12vdata=02%7C01%7C%7C076aa6d683554718d7d708d754a318
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>> those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the
>> ones who do. -Steve Jobs
>>
>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 6:16 AM, kelby carlson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am not yet running iOS 13.1.3. Is it a requirement to have iOS 
>>> up-to-date to restore from iCloud?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:12 AM, kelby carlson  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That was an incorrect subject line. It is iCloud that isn't working.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:04 AM, Feliciano Godoy 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> So...
>>>>> you did a icloud back up and not a iTunes back up on computer? Try
>>>>> going through the process on iPhone, should have iCloud back up there 
>>>>> to restore.Feliciano For tech tips and updates:
>>>>> LIKE
>>>>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.facebook.c
>>>>> om%2Ftheblindman12vdata=02%7C01%7C%7C076aa6d683554718d7d708d7
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Re: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup

[Dave]

I agree. It would have been much better, to be on 12.4.1, than iOS 11. But 
now you don't have that choice.


Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 4:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup

I suspect staying on iOS 11 is the cause for all your headaches.
Now, I also suspect that you either stay stuck, call Apple Accessibility, or 
update to iOS 13.1.3 which has its own set of headaches.


If you have not yet, called Apple Accessibility, that is the absolute next 
thing to do.




Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kelby 
carlson

Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 7:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup

No, I never updated to iOS 12.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 19, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Dave  wrote:

are you sure, you don't mean, 12.4.1?



-Original Message- From: kelby carlson
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 2:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup

I am on iOS 11.4.1. I have reset multiple times with the same issue.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:28 AM, Feliciano Godoy  
wrote:


Ah. Shouldn’t be. What version you on? If it appears, I suggest you reset 
iphone again and give it another shot.

Feliciano
For tech tips and updates:
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those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the
ones who do. -Steve Jobs

On Oct 19, 2019, at 6:16 AM, kelby carlson  
wrote:


I am not yet running iOS 13.1.3. Is it a requirement to have iOS 
up-to-date to restore from iCloud?


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:12 AM, kelby carlson  
wrote:


That was an incorrect subject line. It is iCloud that isn't working.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:04 AM, Feliciano Godoy 
 wrote:


Hi,
So...
you did a icloud back up and not a iTunes back up on computer? Try
going through the process on iPhone, should have iCloud back up there 
to restore.Feliciano For tech tips and updates:

LIKE
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the world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs

On Oct 19, 2019, at 5:54 AM, kelby carlson  
wrote:




I needed to reformat my iPhone, so I made an iCloud backup and erased 
all contents and settings. However, when I tried to restore from 
iCloud backup, it said there was no backup available. When I set up 
my iPhone as new and checked iCloud, it said there was a backup from 
last night. What's going on?


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup

[kelby carlson]

I also have an iTunes backup from a bit earlier that I plan to try, I just 
don't have access to my PC right now.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2019, at 10:03 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I suspect staying on iOS 11 is the cause for all your headaches.
> Now, I also suspect that you either stay stuck, call Apple Accessibility, or 
> update to iOS 13.1.3 which has its own set of headaches.
> 
> If you have not yet, called Apple Accessibility, that is the absolute next 
> thing to do.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
>  Live long and prosper
> 
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kelby 
> carlson
> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 7:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup
> 
> No, I never updated to iOS 12.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Dave  wrote:
>> 
>> are you sure, you don't mean, 12.4.1?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: kelby carlson
>> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 2:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup
>> 
>> I am on iOS 11.4.1. I have reset multiple times with the same issue.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:28 AM, Feliciano Godoy  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ah. Shouldn’t be. What version you on? If it appears, I suggest you reset 
>>> iphone again and give it another shot.
>>> Feliciano
>>> For tech tips and updates:
>>> LIKE 
>>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.facebook.com%
>>> 2Ftheblindman12vdata=02%7C01%7C%7C076aa6d683554718d7d708d754a318
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>>> those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the 
>>> ones who do. -Steve Jobs
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 6:16 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I am not yet running iOS 13.1.3. Is it a requirement to have iOS 
>>>> up-to-date to restore from iCloud?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:12 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> That was an incorrect subject line. It is iCloud that isn't working.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:04 AM, Feliciano Godoy 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> So...
>>>>>> you did a icloud back up and not a iTunes back up on computer? Try 
>>>>>> going through the process on iPhone, should have iCloud back up there to 
>>>>>> restore.Feliciano For tech tips and updates:
>>>>>> LIKE 
>>>>>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.facebook.c
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RE: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup

[Richard Turner]

I suspect staying on iOS 11 is the cause for all your headaches.
Now, I also suspect that you either stay stuck, call Apple Accessibility, or 
update to iOS 13.1.3 which has its own set of headaches.

If you have not yet, called Apple Accessibility, that is the absolute next 
thing to do.



Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kelby 
carlson
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 7:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup

No, I never updated to iOS 12.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Dave  wrote:
> 
> are you sure, you don't mean, 12.4.1?
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: kelby carlson
> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 2:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup
> 
> I am on iOS 11.4.1. I have reset multiple times with the same issue.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:28 AM, Feliciano Godoy  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ah. Shouldn’t be. What version you on? If it appears, I suggest you reset 
>> iphone again and give it another shot.
>> Feliciano
>> For tech tips and updates:
>> LIKE 
>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.facebook.com%
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>> those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the 
>> ones who do. -Steve Jobs
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 6:16 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am not yet running iOS 13.1.3. Is it a requirement to have iOS 
>>> up-to-date to restore from iCloud?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:12 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> That was an incorrect subject line. It is iCloud that isn't working.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:04 AM, Feliciano Godoy 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> So...
>>>>> you did a icloud back up and not a iTunes back up on computer? Try 
>>>>> going through the process on iPhone, should have iCloud back up there to 
>>>>> restore.Feliciano For tech tips and updates:
>>>>> LIKE 
>>>>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.facebook.c
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>>>>> ;reserved=0 those who are crazy enough to think they can change 
>>>>> the world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 5:54 AM, kelby carlson  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I needed to reformat my iPhone, so I made an iCloud backup and erased 
>>>>>> all contents and settings. However, when 

Re: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup

[kelby carlson]

No, I never updated to iOS 12.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Dave  wrote:
> 
> are you sure, you don't mean, 12.4.1?
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: kelby carlson
> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 2:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup
> 
> I am on iOS 11.4.1. I have reset multiple times with the same issue.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:28 AM, Feliciano Godoy  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ah. Shouldn’t be. What version you on? If it appears, I suggest you reset 
>> iphone again and give it another shot.
>> Feliciano
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>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 6:16 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am not yet running iOS 13.1.3. Is it a requirement to have iOS 
>>> up-to-date to restore from iCloud?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:12 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> That was an incorrect subject line. It is iCloud that isn't working.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:04 AM, Feliciano Godoy 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> So...
>>>>> you did a icloud back up and not a iTunes back up on computer? Try going 
>>>>> through the process on iPhone, should have iCloud back up there to 
>>>>> restore.Feliciano
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>>>>> LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
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>>>>> ones who do. -Steve Jobs
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 5:54 AM, kelby carlson  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I needed to reformat my iPhone, so I made an iCloud backup and erased 
>>>>>> all contents and settings. However, when I tried to restore from iCloud 
>>>>>> backup, it said there was no backup available. When I set up my iPhone 
>>>>>> as new and checked iCloud, it said there was a backup from last night. 
>>>>>> What's going on?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup

[Dave]

are you sure, you don't mean, 12.4.1?



-Original Message- 
From: kelby carlson

Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 2:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup

I am on iOS 11.4.1. I have reset multiple times with the same issue.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:28 AM, Feliciano Godoy  
wrote:


Ah. Shouldn’t be. What version you on? If it appears, I suggest you reset 
iphone again and give it another shot.

Feliciano
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On Oct 19, 2019, at 6:16 AM, kelby carlson  
wrote:


I am not yet running iOS 13.1.3. Is it a requirement to have iOS 
up-to-date to restore from iCloud?


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:12 AM, kelby carlson  
wrote:


That was an incorrect subject line. It is iCloud that isn't working.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:04 AM, Feliciano Godoy 
 wrote:


Hi,
So...
you did a icloud back up and not a iTunes back up on computer? Try 
going through the process on iPhone, should have iCloud back up there 
to restore.Feliciano

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On Oct 19, 2019, at 5:54 AM, kelby carlson  
wrote:




I needed to reformat my iPhone, so I made an iCloud backup and erased 
all contents and settings. However, when I tried to restore from 
iCloud backup, it said there was no backup available. When I set up my 
iPhone as new and checked iCloud, it said there was a backup from last 
night. What's going on?


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Re: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup

[kelby carlson]

I am on iOS 11.4.1. I have reset multiple times with the same issue.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:28 AM, Feliciano Godoy  
> wrote:
> 
> Ah. Shouldn’t be. What version you on? If it appears, I suggest you reset 
> iphone again and give it another shot.
> Feliciano
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> 
>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 6:16 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>> 
>> I am not yet running iOS 13.1.3. Is it a requirement to have iOS up-to-date 
>> to restore from iCloud?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:12 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That was an incorrect subject line. It is iCloud that isn't working.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:04 AM, Feliciano Godoy  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> So...
>>>> you did a icloud back up and not a iTunes back up on computer? Try going 
>>>> through the process on iPhone, should have iCloud back up there to 
>>>> restore.Feliciano
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>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 5:54 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I needed to reformat my iPhone, so I made an iCloud backup and erased all 
>>>>> contents and settings. However, when I tried to restore from iCloud 
>>>>> backup, it said there was no backup available. When I set up my iPhone as 
>>>>> new and checked iCloud, it said there was a backup from last night. 
>>>>> What's going on?
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Re: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup

[Feliciano Godoy]

Ah. Shouldn’t be. What version you on? If it appears, I suggest you reset 
iphone again and give it another shot.
Feliciano
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> On Oct 19, 2019, at 6:16 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
> 
> I am not yet running iOS 13.1.3. Is it a requirement to have iOS up-to-date 
> to restore from iCloud?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:12 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>> 
>> That was an incorrect subject line. It is iCloud that isn't working.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:04 AM, Feliciano Godoy  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> So...
>>> you did a icloud back up and not a iTunes back up on computer? Try going 
>>> through the process on iPhone, should have iCloud back up there to 
>>> restore.Feliciano
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>>> who do. -Steve Jobs 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 5:54 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I needed to reformat my iPhone, so I made an iCloud backup and erased all 
>>>> contents and settings. However, when I tried to restore from iCloud 
>>>> backup, it said there was no backup available. When I set up my iPhone as 
>>>> new and checked iCloud, it said there was a backup from last night. What's 
>>>> going on?
>>>> 
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Re: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup

[kelby carlson]

I am not yet running iOS 13.1.3. Is it a requirement to have iOS up-to-date to 
restore from iCloud?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:12 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
> 
> That was an incorrect subject line. It is iCloud that isn't working.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:04 AM, Feliciano Godoy  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> So...
>> you did a icloud back up and not a iTunes back up on computer? Try going 
>> through the process on iPhone, should have iCloud back up there to 
>> restore.Feliciano
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>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 5:54 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I needed to reformat my iPhone, so I made an iCloud backup and erased all 
>>> contents and settings. However, when I tried to restore from iCloud backup, 
>>> it said there was no backup available. When I set up my iPhone as new and 
>>> checked iCloud, it said there was a backup from last night. What's going on?
>>> 
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Re: Can't Restore from iCloud Backup

[kelby carlson]

That was an incorrect subject line. It is iCloud that isn't working.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:04 AM, Feliciano Godoy  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> So...
> you did a icloud back up and not a iTunes back up on computer? Try going 
> through the process on iPhone, should have iCloud back up there to 
> restore.Feliciano
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> 
>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 5:54 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I needed to reformat my iPhone, so I made an iCloud backup and erased all 
>> contents and settings. However, when I tried to restore from iCloud backup, 
>> it said there was no backup available. When I set up my iPhone as new and 
>> checked iCloud, it said there was a backup from last night. What's going on?
>> 
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Re: iCloud Backup

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

You don't have to turn off automatic backups to do one yourself. Choose the 
Apple ID button at the top of Settings, then iCloud, then Backup. You can do a 
backup from that screen at any time as well as turn automatic backups on or off.

Best,
Anna




> On Oct 16, 2019, at 6:13 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn  
> wrote:
> 
>> Where is the setting to turn off automatic backups so that I can do it 
>> myself?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Oct 16, 2019, at 4:06 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The phone doesn't have to be locked to do a manual backup. It's just that 
>> automatic backups only happen when it's locked.
>> 
>> Best,
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>> 
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>> 
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>> Is it possible to do an iCloud backup without the phone being locked? Now it 
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Re: iCloud Backup

[Feliciano Godoy]

Hi,

Go to your device settings, Apple ID, iCloud, iCloud back up on and double tap 
it and there you have the option to activate the back up button to do a manual 
back up or to enable or disable automatic back up.

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> On Oct 16, 2019, at 4:14 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> Where is the setting to turn off automatic backups so that I can do it 
>> myself?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Oct 16, 2019, at 4:06 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The phone doesn't have to be locked to do a manual backup. It's just that 
>> automatic backups only happen when it's locked.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 16, 2019, at 5:38 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn  
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>> 
>> Is it possible to do an iCloud backup without the phone being locked? Now it 
>> says the phone has to be locked, connected to power, and connnected to 
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>> 
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> Where is the setting to turn off automatic backups so that I can do it myself?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 16, 2019, at 4:06 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The phone doesn't have to be locked to do a manual backup. It's just that 
> automatic backups only happen when it's locked.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 16, 2019, at 5:38 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn  
> wrote:
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> 
> Is it possible to do an iCloud backup without the phone being locked? Now it 
> says the phone has to be locked, connected to power, and connnected to wi-fi. 
> I never had to lock my phone to backup before this.
> 
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Re: iCloud Backup

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

The phone doesn't have to be locked to do a manual backup. It's just that 
automatic backups only happen when it's locked.

Best,
Anna




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iCloud Backup

[Dulce Muccio Weisenborn]

Hi, All,Is it possible to do an iCloud backup without the phone being locked?   Now it says the phone has to be locked, connected to power, and connnected to wi-fi.   I never had to lock my phone to backup before this.Dulce



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Re: iCloud backup. Will my VDR library be restored from here?

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Keith,

Open Settings in Voice Dream Reader, and go to Cloud Sync. Make sure "Sync 
library using iCloud" is on. If it is, your books will be backed up to iCloud 
and restored if you restore your iPhone.

Best,
Anna




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> restored from this iCloud backup after resetting my phone, that my VDR 
> library will be restored?
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iCloud backup. Will my VDR library be restored from here?

['Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone]

Hi,

I have VDR enabled as an app in iCloud storage. Does this mean when I restored 
from this iCloud backup after resetting my phone, that my VDR library will be 
restored?

I would very much like to avoid having to use iTunes and File Transfer for this 
purpose.

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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Where is the option in Settings to perform an ICloud Backup now?

['Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone]

Thanks. I did that, and it worked. I then backed out and found out that from 
the Settings screen, one taps on one’s name at the top, 1 swipe right from the 
Search  field. And, and it actually announces Apple ID, iCloud, iTunes and App 
Store from the Search Home Screen, before the announcement of Button . Duhhh.

Keith

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Hi,
I often forget also. I just ask Siri to open iCloud settings.
Max.


On 22 Sep 2018, at 8:51 am, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
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Hi,

I know I should know this, but have had no luck the past 2 days trying find 
where in Settings one goes to perform an iCloud backup now.

I give up. Can someone please tell me how this is done?

Thanks, Keith

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Re: Where is the option in Settings to perform an ICloud Backup now?

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Hi,
I often forget also. I just ask Siri to open iCloud settings.
Max.

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Where is the option in Settings to perform an ICloud Backup now?

['Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone]

Hi,

I know I should know this, but have had no luck the past 2 days trying find 
where in Settings one goes to perform an iCloud backup now.

I give up. Can someone please tell me how this is done?

Thanks, Keith

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Re: ICloud backup of VDR is

[Gerardo Corripio]

I guess my Voice Dream library isn’t that big then. I’ve gone through 3 iPhones 
since Christmas2015 when Santa brought me VDR, and have transferred including 
Voice Dream Reader, to the point that it’s with the first books I uploaded!

Gera
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El 18 sep 2018, a la(s) 9:39 p. m., Mary Otten  escribió:

> I have subscribe to the 50 GB iCloud thing, but I also have a Mac. So I’m not 
> sure. It’s not really clear to me if you had a successful iCloud back up of 
> your device, but the Voice Dream Lee reader library messed up with that 
> sinking, how would you get that back on your phone? In other words, I just 
> don’t know that having enough iCloud space is sufficient to guarantee that 
> you’re going to get a good restoration if you got a new phone for instance.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2018, at 7:37 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve been reading how you guys with Voice Dream Reader have an ICloud backup 
>> of your libraries, thus hoping you’ll could help. Is it normal that within 
>> my ICloud backup (in case I’d ever need to restore my phone from an ICloud 
>> backup) is 3GB, almost making my IPhone’s backup ICloud 4.8GB in size! I’m 
>> thus wondering if you’ll with extensive VDR libraries, to make ICloud 
>> backups of, just in case, have you needed to subscribe, to expand your 
>> ICloud space? Would the 50GB plan suffice, according to your experiences?  
>> Thanks in advance for ideas on this topic.
>> 
>> Gera
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Re: ICloud backup of VDR is

[Mary Otten]

I have subscribe to the 50 GB iCloud thing, but I also have a Mac. So I’m not 
sure. It’s not really clear to me if you had a successful iCloud back up of 
your device, but the Voice Dream Lee reader library messed up with that 
sinking, how would you get that back on your phone? In other words, I just 
don’t know that having enough iCloud space is sufficient to guarantee that 
you’re going to get a good restoration if you got a new phone for instance.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 18, 2018, at 7:37 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> I’ve been reading how you guys with Voice Dream Reader have an ICloud backup 
> of your libraries, thus hoping you’ll could help. Is it normal that within my 
> ICloud backup (in case I’d ever need to restore my phone from an ICloud 
> backup) is 3GB, almost making my IPhone’s backup ICloud 4.8GB in size! I’m 
> thus wondering if you’ll with extensive VDR libraries, to make ICloud backups 
> of, just in case, have you needed to subscribe, to expand your ICloud space? 
> Would the 50GB plan suffice, according to your experiences?  Thanks in 
> advance for ideas on this topic.
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
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ICloud backup of VDR is

[Gerardo Corripio]

I’ve been reading how you guys with Voice Dream Reader have an ICloud backup of 
your libraries, thus hoping you’ll could help. Is it normal that within my 
ICloud backup (in case I’d ever need to restore my phone from an ICloud backup) 
is 3GB, almost making my IPhone’s backup ICloud 4.8GB in size! I’m thus 
wondering if you’ll with extensive VDR libraries, to make ICloud backups of, 
just in case, have you needed to subscribe, to expand your ICloud space? Would 
the 50GB plan suffice, according to your experiences?  Thanks in advance for 
ideas on this topic.

Gera
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RE: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup

[Alan Lemly]

Kimber,

I still have a Mobile Applications folder on my computer which I can access 
with Windows Explorer but the latest date of any of the apps in it is October 
of 2017. Also, any apps I've installed since iTunes stopped supporting local 
backups aren't there.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kimber Gardner
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 12:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup

Admittedly, I haven't done an encrypted backup in a while. What do you mean by 
you can no longer backup apps to your local computer? Does that mean the mobile 
apps folder is no longer present in windows explorer?

I used to back up my apps folder before doing major apps updates just in case 
some of my favorite apps got broken. What a shame if that is no longer possible.


On 9/5/18, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> Hi Arnold and all,
>
> Home screen arrangements are restored with either type of backup. BARD 
> books are not saved in either kind of backup. The latest version of 
> apps is copied to your device whether you use an iCloud or iTunes backup.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
>
>
>> On Sep 5, 2018, at 2:16 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>
>> As I said in another message, I will be delighted if I am wrong about 
>> the following. If one has any books saved in Kindle or Bard, they 
>> will not restore from iClouth and will have to be downloaded again, 
>> they will be restored from an encrypted backup. Also, any books in 
>> Voice Dream will not restore from ICloud, unless the iCloud storage 
>> feature in Voice Dream is enabled first. I hope Winston has gotten 
>> that feature to be more reliable now than it once was, I have read 
>> many threads about how people's libraries got all messed up by it. 
>> Again, it very well may be all right now. Any other books, such as 
>> those in  Learning Ally will not restore from iCloud, but should from 
>> an encrypted backup. Finally, I know that music is not backed up in 
>> ICloud. Your music library from Apple Music is there, but not any 
>> downloads. Any music on your device from cd's on your hard drive that 
>> were on the device will not be restored in an ICloud backup. If none 
>> of these things matter, then an ICloud backup is fine. An ICloud 
>> backup  surely is better than nothing,  if something goes wrong with 
>> your device when you are not near your home computer and you have to restore 
>> it.
>>
>> Arnold Schmidt
>>
>>
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 4, 2018, at 8:25 PM, Anna Dresner > <mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Keith,
>>
>> Both types of backups back up all of the same information. If you 
>> restore from a backup, even iTunes backups download your apps from 
>> the app store if you restore from them, so there isn't a speed 
>> advantage in restoring from iTunes either. I would suggest backing up 
>> with icloud on a regular basis and doing an encrypted iTunes backup 
>> before you get a new device so that if you have to restore from the 
>> backup, the iTunes one is available in case something is wrong with the 
>> iCloud one.
>>
>> Best,
>> Anna
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 4, 2018, at 6:22 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I understand iCloud backups are getting close to encrypted iTunes 
>>> backups. Is there still an advantage or advantages to encrypted 
>>> iTunes backups?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance. Keith
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Re: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup

[Kimber Gardner]

Admittedly, I haven't done an encrypted backup in a while. What do you
mean by you can no longer backup apps to your local computer? Does
that mean the mobile apps folder is no longer present in windows
explorer?

I used to back up my apps folder before doing major apps updates just
in case some of my favorite apps got broken. What a shame if that is
no longer possible.


On 9/5/18, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> Hi Arnold and all,
>
> Home screen arrangements are restored with either type of backup. BARD books
> are not saved in either kind of backup. The latest version of apps is copied
> to your device whether you use an iCloud or iTunes backup.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
>
>
>> On Sep 5, 2018, at 2:16 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>
>> As I said in another message, I will be delighted if I am wrong about the
>> following. If one has any books saved in Kindle or Bard, they will not
>> restore from iClouth and will have to be downloaded again, they will be
>> restored from an encrypted backup. Also, any books in Voice Dream will not
>> restore from ICloud, unless the iCloud storage feature in Voice Dream is
>> enabled first. I hope Winston has gotten that feature to be more reliable
>> now than it once was, I have read many threads about how people's
>> libraries got all messed up by it. Again, it very well may be all right
>> now. Any other books, such as those in  Learning Ally will not restore
>> from iCloud, but should from an encrypted backup. Finally, I know that
>> music is not backed up in ICloud. Your music library from Apple Music is
>> there, but not any downloads. Any music on your device from cd's on your
>> hard drive that were on the device will not be restored in an ICloud
>> backup. If none of these things matter, then an ICloud backup is fine. An
>> ICloud backup  surely is better than nothing,  if something goes wrong
>> with your device when you are not near your home computer and you have to
>> restore it.
>>
>> Arnold Schmidt
>>
>>
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 4, 2018, at 8:25 PM, Anna Dresner > <mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Keith,
>>
>> Both types of backups back up all of the same information. If you restore
>> from a backup, even iTunes backups download your apps from the app store
>> if you restore from them, so there isn't a speed advantage in restoring
>> from iTunes either. I would suggest backing up with icloud on a regular
>> basis and doing an encrypted iTunes backup before you get a new device so
>> that if you have to restore from the backup, the iTunes one is available
>> in case something is wrong with the iCloud one.
>>
>> Best,
>> Anna
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 4, 2018, at 6:22 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I understand iCloud backups are getting close to encrypted iTunes
>>> backups. Is there still an advantage or advantages to encrypted iTunes
>>> backups?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance. Keith
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Re: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Alan and all,

How interesting that apps were loaded from your iTunes backup. When my daughter 
restored from an iTunes backup a year ago, all her apps were loaded from the 
cloud. That's why I thought they were always loaded from the cloud regardless 
of which kind of backup you do. I wish Apple would explain what's going on so 
we didn't have to guess!

Anna




> On Sep 5, 2018, at 11:05 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Hi Arnold,
>  
> I'm running iTunes 12.8.0.16 and also expected the latest version of my apps 
> to be downloaded from the cloud when I restored my iTunes encrypted backup to 
> my new iPhone 8. However, this isn't what happened. Even though you're ight 
> that iTunes no longer lets you backup apps to your local computer, I somehow 
> ended up with the same versions of my apps on my iPhone 8 that I had running 
> on my iPhone 7. I'm sure of this because when I went into updates on the Apps 
> Store, I still had over 70 apps listed there with newer versions. If all of 
> my apps had been downloaded with their most current versions, nothing should 
> have shown on the Apps Store update screen except apss that had a new release 
> uploaded very recently.
>  
> I was glad I had my iTunes backup because I initially selected restore from 
> the cloud backup as it didn't give me any other options except for setting it 
> up as a brand new phone and I knew I didn't want that. During the cloud 
> restore, I started getting prompts that the iPhone wanted the password for an 
> Apple ID that I did not recognize and was not my email address. When this 
> started happening, I launched iTunes and restored my encrypted backup which 
> ran overnight and returned everything to what I expected. Well, I had one app 
> that was no longer available in the Apps Store so that was not restored. So, 
> I'm confused how and where the apps are obtained when doing a restore from an 
> encrypted backup. My experience seems to say they come from the cloud but if 
> the apps are still available, you get whatever version you were running when 
> you backed up your device.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Arnold Schmidt
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 1:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup
>  
> I  will be delighted if I am wrong about this, but starting with ITunes 12.7, 
> apps no longer  are backed up to an encrypted backup.  When one restores the 
> device, the  latest version of the app is restored to the device. Also, 
> remember that if you have spent any time arranging your home screens the way 
> you want them, or making folders for apps, I think  all that will be gone  
> and the apps will appear in alphabetical order.  I do not know if the 
> customized screens will be restored from an encrypted backup or not, I do not 
> think they are restored from an ICloud backup. They use to be restored from 
> an encrypted backup. 
>  
>  
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> On Sep 5, 2018, at 1:16 AM, Kimberly  <mailto:kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>  
> The one advantage encrypted backups have is that you can return to a previous 
> version of an app it necessary. Say for example, accessibility is broken in a 
> later update or if the app should disappear from the app store, with an 
> encrypted backup you still have the older version. With iCloud you always get 
> the latest version of your apps. 
> 
> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we 
> go on.—Annie Proulx
> 
> On Sep 4, 2018, at 8:25 PM, Anna Dresner  <mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Keith,
>>  
>> Both types of backups back up all of the same information. If you restore 
>> from a backup, even iTunes backups download your apps from the app store if 
>> you restore from them, so there isn't a speed advantage in restoring from 
>> iTunes either. I would suggest backing up with icloud on a regular basis and 
>> doing an encrypted iTunes backup before you get a new device so that if you 
>> have to restore from the backup, the iTunes one is available in case 
>> something is wrong with the iCloud one.
>>  
>> Best,
>> Anna
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 4, 2018, at 6:22 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I understand iCloud backups are getting close to encrypted iTunes backups. 
>> Is there still an advantage or adva

RE: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Arnold,

 

I'm running iTunes 12.8.0.16 and also expected the latest version of my apps to 
be downloaded from the cloud when I restored my iTunes encrypted backup to my 
new iPhone 8. However, this isn't what happened. Even though you're ight that 
iTunes no longer lets you backup apps to your local computer, I somehow ended 
up with the same versions of my apps on my iPhone 8 that I had running on my 
iPhone 7. I'm sure of this because when I went into updates on the Apps Store, 
I still had over 70 apps listed there with newer versions. If all of my apps 
had been downloaded with their most current versions, nothing should have shown 
on the Apps Store update screen except apss that had a new release uploaded 
very recently.

 

I was glad I had my iTunes backup because I initially selected restore from the 
cloud backup as it didn't give me any other options except for setting it up as 
a brand new phone and I knew I didn't want that. During the cloud restore, I 
started getting prompts that the iPhone wanted the password for an Apple ID 
that I did not recognize and was not my email address. When this started 
happening, I launched iTunes and restored my encrypted backup which ran 
overnight and returned everything to what I expected. Well, I had one app that 
was no longer available in the Apps Store so that was not restored. So, I'm 
confused how and where the apps are obtained when doing a restore from an 
encrypted backup. My experience seems to say they come from the cloud but if 
the apps are still available, you get whatever version you were running when 
you backed up your device.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 1:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup

 

I  will be delighted if I am wrong about this, but starting with ITunes 12.7, 
apps no longer  are backed up to an encrypted backup.  When one restores the 
device, the  latest version of the app is restored to the device. Also, 
remember that if you have spent any time arranging your home screens the way 
you want them, or making folders for apps, I think  all that will be gone  and 
the apps will appear in alphabetical order.  I do not know if the customized 
screens will be restored from an encrypted backup or not, I do not think they 
are restored from an ICloud backup. They use to be restored from an encrypted 
backup. 

 

 

Arnold Schmidt 


On Sep 5, 2018, at 1:16 AM, Kimberly  wrote:

 

The one advantage encrypted backups have is that you can return to a previous 
version of an app it necessary. Say for example, accessibility is broken in a 
later update or if the app should disappear from the app store, with an 
encrypted backup you still have the older version. With iCloud you always get 
the latest version of your apps. 

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On Sep 4, 2018, at 8:25 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:

Hi Keith,

 

Both types of backups back up all of the same information. If you restore from 
a backup, even iTunes backups download your apps from the app store if you 
restore from them, so there isn't a speed advantage in restoring from iTunes 
either. I would suggest backing up with icloud on a regular basis and doing an 
encrypted iTunes backup before you get a new device so that if you have to 
restore from the backup, the iTunes one is available in case something is wrong 
with the iCloud one.

 

Best,

Anna

 





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Hi,

 

I understand iCloud backups are getting close to encrypted iTunes backups. Is 
there still an advantage or advantages to encrypted iTunes backups?

 

Thanks in advance. Keith

 

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Re: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup

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Hi Arnold and all,

Home screen arrangements are restored with either type of backup. BARD books 
are not saved in either kind of backup. The latest version of apps is copied to 
your device whether you use an iCloud or iTunes backup.

Best,
Anna




> On Sep 5, 2018, at 2:16 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> As I said in another message, I will be delighted if I am wrong about the 
> following. If one has any books saved in Kindle or Bard, they will not 
> restore from iClouth and will have to be downloaded again, they will be 
> restored from an encrypted backup. Also, any books in Voice Dream will not 
> restore from ICloud, unless the iCloud storage feature in Voice Dream is 
> enabled first. I hope Winston has gotten that feature to be more reliable now 
> than it once was, I have read many threads about how people's libraries got 
> all messed up by it. Again, it very well may be all right now. Any other 
> books, such as those in  Learning Ally will not restore from iCloud, but 
> should from an encrypted backup. Finally, I know that music is not backed up 
> in ICloud. Your music library from Apple Music is there, but not any 
> downloads. Any music on your device from cd's on your hard drive that were on 
> the device will not be restored in an ICloud backup. If none of these things 
> matter, then an ICloud backup is fine. An ICloud backup  surely is better 
> than nothing,  if something goes wrong with your device when you are not near 
> your home computer and you have to restore it.  
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
> 
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> Hi Keith,
> 
> Both types of backups back up all of the same information. If you restore 
> from a backup, even iTunes backups download your apps from the app store if 
> you restore from them, so there isn't a speed advantage in restoring from 
> iTunes either. I would suggest backing up with icloud on a regular basis and 
> doing an encrypted iTunes backup before you get a new device so that if you 
> have to restore from the backup, the iTunes one is available in case 
> something is wrong with the iCloud one.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
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Re: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup

[Arnold Schmidt]

As I said in another message, I will be delighted if I am wrong about the 
following. If one has any books saved in Kindle or Bard, they will not restore 
from iClouth and will have to be downloaded again, they will be restored from 
an encrypted backup. Also, any books in Voice Dream will not restore from 
ICloud, unless the iCloud storage feature in Voice Dream is enabled first. I 
hope Winston has gotten that feature to be more reliable now than it once was, 
I have read many threads about how people's libraries got all messed up by it. 
Again, it very well may be all right now. Any other books, such as those in  
Learning Ally will not restore from iCloud, but should from an encrypted 
backup. Finally, I know that music is not backed up in ICloud. Your music 
library from Apple Music is there, but not any downloads. Any music on your 
device from cd's on your hard drive that were on the device will not be 
restored in an ICloud backup. If none of these things matter, then an ICloud 
backup is fine. An ICloud backup  surely is better than nothing,  if something 
goes wrong with your device when you are not near your home computer and you 
have to restore it.  

Arnold Schmidt 


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On Sep 4, 2018, at 8:25 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:

Hi Keith,

Both types of backups back up all of the same information. If you restore from 
a backup, even iTunes backups download your apps from the app store if you 
restore from them, so there isn't a speed advantage in restoring from iTunes 
either. I would suggest backing up with icloud on a regular basis and doing an 
encrypted iTunes backup before you get a new device so that if you have to 
restore from the backup, the iTunes one is available in case something is wrong 
with the iCloud one.

Best,
Anna


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Re: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup

[Arnold Schmidt]

All your passwords will be restored if you have enabled keychain. Also, 
remember that wallet must be enabled to restore all your credit card 
information for Apple Pay,  along with any other data you may have in wallet. 

Arnold Schmidt 


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On Sep 4, 2018, at 11:26 PM, Robert Wright  wrote:

Are you saying that theiCloud backup stores all passwords just as the iTunes 
incripted backup?
 
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From: Anna Dresner
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Subject: Re: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup
 
Hi Keith,
 
Both types of backups back up all of the same information. If you restore from 
a backup, even iTunes backups download your apps from the app store if you 
restore from them, so there isn't a speed advantage in restoring from iTunes 
either. I would suggest backing up with icloud on a regular basis and doing an 
encrypted iTunes backup before you get a new device so that if you have to 
restore from the backup, the iTunes one is available in case something is wrong 
with the iCloud one.
 
Best,
Anna
 


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Hi,
 
I understand iCloud backups are getting close to encrypted iTunes backups. Is 
there still an advantage or advantages to encrypted iTunes backups?
 
Thanks in advance. Keith
 
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Re: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup

[Arnold Schmidt]

I  will be delighted if I am wrong about this, but starting with ITunes 12.7, 
apps no longer  are backed up to an encrypted backup.  When one restores the 
device, the  latest version of the app is restored to the device. Also, 
remember that if you have spent any time arranging your home screens the way 
you want them, or making folders for apps, I think  all that will be gone  and 
the apps will appear in alphabetical order.  I do not know if the customized 
screens will be restored from an encrypted backup or not, I do not think they 
are restored from an ICloud backup. They use to be restored from an encrypted 
backup. 


Arnold Schmidt 

On Sep 5, 2018, at 1:16 AM, Kimberly  wrote:


The one advantage encrypted backups have is that you can return to a previous 
version of an app it necessary. Say for example, accessibility is broken in a 
later update or if the app should disappear from the app store, with an 
encrypted backup you still have the older version. With iCloud you always get 
the latest version of your apps. 

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> On Sep 4, 2018, at 8:25 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
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> Hi Keith,
> 
> Both types of backups back up all of the same information. If you restore 
> from a backup, even iTunes backups download your apps from the app store if 
> you restore from them, so there isn't a speed advantage in restoring from 
> iTunes either. I would suggest backing up with icloud on a regular basis and 
> doing an encrypted iTunes backup before you get a new device so that if you 
> have to restore from the backup, the iTunes one is available in case 
> something is wrong with the iCloud one.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
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Re: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup

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The one advantage encrypted backups have is that you can return to a previous 
version of an app it necessary. Say for example, accessibility is broken in a 
later update or if the app should disappear from the app store, with an 
encrypted backup you still have the older version. With iCloud you always get 
the latest version of your apps. 

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> On Sep 4, 2018, at 8:25 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
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> Hi Keith,
> 
> Both types of backups back up all of the same information. If you restore 
> from a backup, even iTunes backups download your apps from the app store if 
> you restore from them, so there isn't a speed advantage in restoring from 
> iTunes either. I would suggest backing up with icloud on a regular basis and 
> doing an encrypted iTunes backup before you get a new device so that if you 
> have to restore from the backup, the iTunes one is available in case 
> something is wrong with the iCloud one.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
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RE: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup

[Robert Wright]

Are you saying that theiCloud backup stores all passwords just as the iTunes 
incripted backup?

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From: Anna Dresner
Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2018 6:25 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup

Hi Keith,

Both types of backups back up all of the same information. If you restore from 
a backup, even iTunes backups download your apps from the app store if you 
restore from them, so there isn't a speed advantage in restoring from iTunes 
either. I would suggest backing up with icloud on a regular basis and doing an 
encrypted iTunes backup before you get a new device so that if you have to 
restore from the backup, the iTunes one is available in case something is wrong 
with the iCloud one.

Best,
Anna



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Re: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Keith,

Both types of backups back up all of the same information. If you restore from 
a backup, even iTunes backups download your apps from the app store if you 
restore from them, so there isn't a speed advantage in restoring from iTunes 
either. I would suggest backing up with icloud on a regular basis and doing an 
encrypted iTunes backup before you get a new device so that if you have to 
restore from the backup, the iTunes one is available in case something is wrong 
with the iCloud one.

Best,
Anna


> On Sep 4, 2018, at 6:22 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
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> Hi,
>  
> I understand iCloud backups are getting close to encrypted iTunes backups. Is 
> there still an advantage or advantages to encrypted iTunes backups?
>  
> Thanks in advance. Keith
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iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup

['Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone]

Hi,

I understand iCloud backups are getting close to encrypted iTunes backups. Is 
there still an advantage or advantages to encrypted iTunes backups?

Thanks in advance. Keith

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Restoring from an iCloud backup

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How do I do this in ios11?


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Re: restoring an ICloud backup

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Vicki,

The 5c doesn't have Touch ID. The 5s is the first one that does.

Best,
Anna



> On Aug 9, 2017, at 11:36 AM, Vicki <vwher...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Does touch ID have to do more with the phone or the IOS. My phone is pretty 
> old, a 5C, but I am hoping to get a new one pretty soon.
>  
> I'm just not sure which one yet.
>  
> Vicki
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Woody Anna Dresner <mailto:wadres...@att.net>
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: restoring an ICloud backup
>> 
>> Hi Vicki,
>> 
>> You could be right. Setting up a passcode is pretty easy, and using it is 
>> even easier if your phone has Touch ID.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 9, 2017, at 10:19 AM, Vicki <vwher...@comcast.net 
>>> <mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Doesn't health data only work if you have a passcode on your phone? I think 
>>> I was told that by someone.
>>>  
>>> I haven't had a passcode on my phone, so I could never get it to work right.
>>>  
>>> Vicki
>>>  
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: Woody Anna Dresner <mailto:wadres...@att.net>
>>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 10:51 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: restoring an ICloud backup
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Harry,
>>>> 
>>>> That's a good question, and I don't know the answer. It may be that if you 
>>>> turn on Keychain, the same passwords are saved as in an iTunes backup My 
>>>> understanding is that health data is not part of iCloud backups in iOS 10, 
>>>> so that would still be an advantage of an encrypted iTunes backup.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Anna
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 9, 2017, at 1:29 AM, Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com 
>>>>> <mailto:ubupanora...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Which passwords are included in an iTunes encrypted backup which are not 
>>>>> included in Keychain, which is (I think) stored in iCloud? Harry
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 8 Aug 2017, at 23:05, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net 
>>>>> <mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Vicki,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Encrypted iTunes backups include health data and passwords, but 
>>>>>> otherwise, they're the same as iCloud ones. If you set iTunes to 
>>>>>> download copies of all your purchased apps, it will restore from those 
>>>>>> downloaded apps instead of the app store, however. I usually do an 
>>>>>> iTunes backup before installing a new version of iOS but do iCloud 
>>>>>> backups the rest of the time because iCloud backups are automatic That 
>>>>>> way, if for some reason I unexpectedly had to erase my phone or start 
>>>>>> with a new device, I would have a recent backup.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Anna
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2017, at 5:00 PM, Vicki <vwher...@comcast.net 
>>>>>>> <mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yes, thank you. Do you think that backing up with ITunes is a better 
>>>>>>>> choice? Does that back up more?
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> Vicki
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>>>>>> From: Woody Anna Dresner <mailto:wadres...@att.net>
>>>>>>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 11:22 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: restoring an ICloud backup
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Vicki,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> To restore to an iCloud backup, go to Settings, choose General, then 
>>>>>>>> Reset, then Erase All Content and Settings. Follow the prompts. This 
>>>>>>>> will completely wipe 

Re: restoring an ICloud backup

[Vicki]

Does touch ID have to do more with the phone or the IOS. My phone is pretty 
old, a 5C, but I am hoping to get a new one pretty soon.

I'm just not sure which one yet.

Vicki

  - Original Message - 
  From: Woody Anna Dresner 
  To: VIPhone Mailing List 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:37 AM
  Subject: Re: restoring an ICloud backup


  Hi Vicki,


  You could be right. Setting up a passcode is pretty easy, and using it is 
even easier if your phone has Touch ID.


  Best,
  Anna






On Aug 9, 2017, at 10:19 AM, Vicki <vwher...@comcast.net> wrote:


Doesn't health data only work if you have a passcode on your phone? I think 
I was told that by someone.

I haven't had a passcode on my phone, so I could never get it to work right.

Vicki

  - Original Message - 
  From: Woody Anna Dresner
  To: VIPhone Mailing List
  Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 10:51 AM
  Subject: Re: restoring an ICloud backup


  Hello Harry,


  That's a good question, and I don't know the answer. It may be that if 
you turn on Keychain, the same passwords are saved as in an iTunes backup My 
understanding is that health data is not part of iCloud backups in iOS 10, so 
that would still be an advantage of an encrypted iTunes backup.


  Best,
  Anna






On Aug 9, 2017, at 1:29 AM, Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com> wrote:


Which passwords are included in an iTunes encrypted backup which are 
not included in Keychain, which is (I think) stored in iCloud? Harry

On 8 Aug 2017, at 23:05, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:


  Hi Vicki,


  Encrypted iTunes backups include health data and passwords, but 
otherwise, they're the same as iCloud ones. If you set iTunes to download 
copies of all your purchased apps, it will restore from those downloaded apps 
instead of the app store, however. I usually do an iTunes backup before 
installing a new version of iOS but do iCloud backups the rest of the time 
because iCloud backups are automatic. That way, if for some reason I 
unexpectedly had to erase my phone or start with a new device, I would have a 
recent backup.


  Best,
  Anna






On Aug 8, 2017, at 5:00 PM, Vicki <vwher...@comcast.net> wrote:


  Yes, thank you. Do you think that backing up with ITunes is a 
better choice? Does that back up more?

  Vicki


  - Original Message - 
  From: Woody Anna Dresner
  To: VIPhone Mailing List
  Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 11:22 AM
  Subject: Re: restoring an ICloud backup


  Hi Vicki,


      To restore to an iCloud backup, go to Settings, choose General, 
then Reset, then Erase All Content and Settings. Follow the prompts. This will 
completely wipe all the info on your device. You then start the set-up process, 
and when you are asked, choose to restore from iCloud. The device will restore 
from the latest backup.


  As for why the backup file is small, it doesn't include the OS or 
your apps. It also doesn't include large files like podcasts and music. 
Instead, it contains a list of all your apps and how you had them arranged, 
along with app data such as preferred settings and game scores. some apps 
include other data, like documents, but many do not. You have to download the 
data again. In short, restoring from a backup takes some work and I wouldn't 
recommend it unless there's a compelling reason to do it.


  I hope that helps.


  best,
  Anna






On Aug 8, 2017, at 5:23 AM, Vicki <vwher...@comcast.net> wrote:


Good Morning,

I am very confused how to restore an ICloud backup on both my 
Phone and mini IPad.

Shouldn't there be a list of backups somewhere to choose from?

Also, when I check the size of the storage used for backing up, 
it is very small, only 111 mg. for my phone and Mini IPad combined.

If ICloud is backing up everything I have selected, shouldn't 
it be much larger than that, if it is also including backing up the Current IOS?

Thanks. 

Vicki



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Re: restoring an ICloud backup

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Vicki,

You could be right. Setting up a passcode is pretty easy, and using it is even 
easier if your phone has Touch ID.

Best,
Anna



> On Aug 9, 2017, at 10:19 AM, Vicki <vwher...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Doesn't health data only work if you have a passcode on your phone? I think I 
> was told that by someone.
>  
> I haven't had a passcode on my phone, so I could never get it to work right.
>  
> Vicki
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Woody Anna Dresner <mailto:wadres...@att.net>
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 10:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: restoring an ICloud backup
>> 
>> Hello Harry,
>> 
>> That's a good question, and I don't know the answer. It may be that if you 
>> turn on Keychain, the same passwords are saved as in an iTunes backup My 
>> understanding is that health data is not part of iCloud backups in iOS 10, 
>> so that would still be an advantage of an encrypted iTunes backup.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 9, 2017, at 1:29 AM, Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com 
>>> <mailto:ubupanora...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Which passwords are included in an iTunes encrypted backup which are not 
>>> included in Keychain, which is (I think) stored in iCloud? Harry
>>> 
>>> On 8 Aug 2017, at 23:05, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net 
>>> <mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Vicki,
>>>> 
>>>> Encrypted iTunes backups include health data and passwords, but otherwise, 
>>>> they're the same as iCloud ones. If you set iTunes to download copies of 
>>>> all your purchased apps, it will restore from those downloaded apps 
>>>> instead of the app store, however. I usually do an iTunes backup before 
>>>> installing a new version of iOS but do iCloud backups the rest of the time 
>>>> because iCloud backups are automatic. That way, if for some reason I 
>>>> unexpectedly had to erase my phone or start with a new device, I would 
>>>> have a recent backup.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Anna
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 8, 2017, at 5:00 PM, Vicki <vwher...@comcast.net 
>>>>> <mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, thank you. Do you think that backing up with ITunes is a better 
>>>>>> choice? Does that back up more?
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Vicki
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>>>> From: Woody Anna Dresner <mailto:wadres...@att.net>
>>>>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 11:22 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: restoring an ICloud backup
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Vicki,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To restore to an iCloud backup, go to Settings, choose General, then 
>>>>>> Reset, then Erase All Content and Settings. Follow the prompts. This 
>>>>>> will completely wipe all the info on your device. You then start the 
>>>>>> set-up process, and when you are asked, choose to restore from iCloud. 
>>>>>> The device will restore from the latest backup.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As for why the backup file is small, it doesn't include the OS or your 
>>>>>> apps. It also doesn't include large files like podcasts and music. 
>>>>>> Instead, it contains a list of all your apps and how you had them 
>>>>>> arranged, along with app data such as preferred settings and game 
>>>>>> scores. some apps include other data, like documents, but many do not. 
>>>>>> You have to download the data again. In short, restoring from a backup 
>>>>>> takes some work and I wouldn't recommend it unless there's a compelling 
>>>>>> reason to do it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I hope that helps.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> best,
>>>>>> Anna
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2017, at 5:23 AM, Vicki <vwher...@comcast.net 
>>>>>>> <mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>&g

Re: restoring an ICloud backup

[Vicki]

Doesn't health data only work if you have a passcode on your phone? I think I 
was told that by someone.

I haven't had a passcode on my phone, so I could never get it to work right.

Vicki

  - Original Message - 
  From: Woody Anna Dresner 
  To: VIPhone Mailing List 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 10:51 AM
  Subject: Re: restoring an ICloud backup


  Hello Harry,


  That's a good question, and I don't know the answer. It may be that if you 
turn on Keychain, the same passwords are saved as in an iTunes backup. My 
understanding is that health data is not part of iCloud backups in iOS 10, so 
that would still be an advantage of an encrypted iTunes backup.


  Best,
  Anna






On Aug 9, 2017, at 1:29 AM, Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com> wrote:


Which passwords are included in an iTunes encrypted backup which are not 
included in Keychain, which is (I think) stored in iCloud? Harry

On 8 Aug 2017, at 23:05, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:


  Hi Vicki,


  Encrypted iTunes backups include health data and passwords, but 
otherwise, they're the same as iCloud ones. If you set iTunes to download 
copies of all your purchased apps, it will restore from those downloaded apps 
instead of the app store, however. I usually do an iTunes backup before 
installing a new version of iOS but do iCloud backups the rest of the time 
because iCloud backups are automatic. That way, if for some reason I 
unexpectedly had to erase my phone or start with a new device, I would have a 
recent backup.


  Best,
  Anna






On Aug 8, 2017, at 5:00 PM, Vicki <vwher...@comcast.net> wrote:


  Yes, thank you. Do you think that backing up with ITunes is a better 
choice? Does that back up more?

  Vicki


  - Original Message - 
  From: Woody Anna Dresner
  To: VIPhone Mailing List
  Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 11:22 AM
  Subject: Re: restoring an ICloud backup


  Hi Vicki,


  To restore to an iCloud backup, go to Settings, choose General, then 
Reset, then Erase All Content and Settings. Follow the prompts. This will 
completely wipe all the info on your device. You then start the set-up process, 
and when you are asked, choose to restore from iCloud. The device will restore 
from the latest backup.


  As for why the backup file is small, it doesn't include the OS or 
your apps. It also doesn't include large files like podcasts and music. 
Instead, it contains a list of all your apps and how you had them arranged, 
along with app data such as preferred settings and game scores. some apps 
include other data, like documents, but many do not. You have to download the 
data again. In short, restoring from a backup takes some work and I wouldn't 
recommend it unless there's a compelling reason to do it.


  I hope that helps.


  best,
  Anna






On Aug 8, 2017, at 5:23 AM, Vicki <vwher...@comcast.net> wrote:


Good Morning,

I am very confused how to restore an ICloud backup on both my Phone 
and mini IPad.

Shouldn't there be a list of backups somewhere to choose from?

Also, when I check the size of the storage used for backing up, it 
is very small, only 111 mg. for my phone and Mini IPad combined.

If ICloud is backing up everything I have selected, shouldn't it be 
much larger than that, if it is also including backing up the Current IOS?

Thanks. 

Vicki



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Re: restoring an ICloud backup

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hello Harry,

That's a good question, and I don't know the answer. It may be that if you turn 
on Keychain, the same passwords are saved as in an iTunes backup. My 
understanding is that health data is not part of iCloud backups in iOS 10, so 
that would still be an advantage of an encrypted iTunes backup.

Best,
Anna



> On Aug 9, 2017, at 1:29 AM, Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Which passwords are included in an iTunes encrypted backup which are not 
> included in Keychain, which is (I think) stored in iCloud? Harry
> 
> On 8 Aug 2017, at 23:05, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net 
> <mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Vicki,
>> 
>> Encrypted iTunes backups include health data and passwords, but otherwise, 
>> they're the same as iCloud ones. If you set iTunes to download copies of all 
>> your purchased apps, it will restore from those downloaded apps instead of 
>> the app store, however. I usually do an iTunes backup before installing a 
>> new version of iOS but do iCloud backups the rest of the time because iCloud 
>> backups are automatic. That way, if for some reason I unexpectedly had to 
>> erase my phone or start with a new device, I would have a recent backup.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 8, 2017, at 5:00 PM, Vicki <vwher...@comcast.net 
>>> <mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yes, thank you. Do you think that backing up with ITunes is a better 
>>>> choice? Does that back up more?
>>>>  
>>>> Vicki
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: Woody Anna Dresner <mailto:wadres...@att.net>
>>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 11:22 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: restoring an ICloud backup
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Vicki,
>>>> 
>>>> To restore to an iCloud backup, go to Settings, choose General, then 
>>>> Reset, then Erase All Content and Settings. Follow the prompts. This will 
>>>> completely wipe all the info on your device. You then start the set-up 
>>>> process, and when you are asked, choose to restore from iCloud. The device 
>>>> will restore from the latest backup.
>>>> 
>>>> As for why the backup file is small, it doesn't include the OS or your 
>>>> apps. It also doesn't include large files like podcasts and music. 
>>>> Instead, it contains a list of all your apps and how you had them 
>>>> arranged, along with app data such as preferred settings and game scores. 
>>>> some apps include other data, like documents, but many do not. You have to 
>>>> download the data again. In short, restoring from a backup takes some work 
>>>> and I wouldn't recommend it unless there's a compelling reason to do it.
>>>> 
>>>> I hope that helps.
>>>> 
>>>> best,
>>>> Anna
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 8, 2017, at 5:23 AM, Vicki <vwher...@comcast.net 
>>>>> <mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good Morning,
>>>>>  
>>>>> I am very confused how to restore an ICloud backup on both my Phone and 
>>>>> mini IPad.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Shouldn't there be a list of backups somewhere to choose from?
>>>>>  
>>>>> Also, when I check the size of the storage used for backing up, it is 
>>>>> very small, only 111 mg. for my phone and Mini IPad combined.
>>>>>  
>>>>> If ICloud is backing up everything I have selected, shouldn't it be much 
>>>>> larger than that, if it is also including backing up the Current IOS?
>>>>>  
>>>>> Thanks. 
>>>>>  
>>>>> Vicki
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
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Re: restoring an ICloud backup

[Harry Bell]

Which passwords are included in an iTunes encrypted backup which are not 
included in Keychain, which is (I think) stored in iCloud? Harry

> On 8 Aug 2017, at 23:05, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Vicki,
> 
> Encrypted iTunes backups include health data and passwords, but otherwise, 
> they're the same as iCloud ones. If you set iTunes to download copies of all 
> your purchased apps, it will restore from those downloaded apps instead of 
> the app store, however. I usually do an iTunes backup before installing a new 
> version of iOS but do iCloud backups the rest of the time because iCloud 
> backups are automatic. That way, if for some reason I unexpectedly had to 
> erase my phone or start with a new device, I would have a recent backup.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>>> On Aug 8, 2017, at 5:00 PM, Vicki <vwher...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, thank you. Do you think that backing up with ITunes is a better 
>>> choice? Does that back up more?
>>>  
>>> Vicki
>>>  
>>>  
>>> - Original Message ----- 
>>> From: Woody Anna Dresner
>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 11:22 AM
>>> Subject: Re: restoring an ICloud backup
>>> 
>>> Hi Vicki,
>>> 
>>> To restore to an iCloud backup, go to Settings, choose General, then Reset, 
>>> then Erase All Content and Settings. Follow the prompts. This will 
>>> completely wipe all the info on your device. You then start the set-up 
>>> process, and when you are asked, choose to restore from iCloud. The device 
>>> will restore from the latest backup.
>>> 
>>> As for why the backup file is small, it doesn't include the OS or your 
>>> apps. It also doesn't include large files like podcasts and music. Instead, 
>>> it contains a list of all your apps and how you had them arranged, along 
>>> with app data such as preferred settings and game scores. some apps include 
>>> other data, like documents, but many do not. You have to download the data 
>>> again. In short, restoring from a backup takes some work and I wouldn't 
>>> recommend it unless there's a compelling reason to do it.
>>> 
>>> I hope that helps.
>>> 
>>> best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 8, 2017, at 5:23 AM, Vicki <vwher...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Good Morning,
>>>>  
>>>> I am very confused how to restore an ICloud backup on both my Phone and 
>>>> mini IPad.
>>>>  
>>>> Shouldn't there be a list of backups somewhere to choose from?
>>>>  
>>>> Also, when I check the size of the storage used for backing up, it is very 
>>>> small, only 111 mg. for my phone and Mini IPad combined.
>>>>  
>>>> If ICloud is backing up everything I have selected, shouldn't it be much 
>>>> larger than that, if it is also including backing up the Current IOS?
>>>>  
>>>> Thanks. 
>>>>  
>>>> Vicki
>>>>  
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Re: restoring an ICloud backup

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Vicki,

Encrypted iTunes backups include health data and passwords, but otherwise, 
they're the same as iCloud ones. If you set iTunes to download copies of all 
your purchased apps, it will restore from those downloaded apps instead of the 
app store, however. I usually do an iTunes backup before installing a new 
version of iOS but do iCloud backups the rest of the time because iCloud 
backups are automatic. That way, if for some reason I unexpectedly had to erase 
my phone or start with a new device, I would have a recent backup.

Best,
Anna



> On Aug 8, 2017, at 5:00 PM, Vicki <vwher...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, thank you. Do you think that backing up with ITunes is a better choice? 
>> Does that back up more?
>>  
>> Vicki
>>  
>>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Woody Anna Dresner <mailto:wadres...@att.net>
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 11:22 AM
>> Subject: Re: restoring an ICloud backup
>> 
>> Hi Vicki,
>> 
>> To restore to an iCloud backup, go to Settings, choose General, then Reset, 
>> then Erase All Content and Settings. Follow the prompts. This will 
>> completely wipe all the info on your device. You then start the set-up 
>> process, and when you are asked, choose to restore from iCloud. The device 
>> will restore from the latest backup.
>> 
>> As for why the backup file is small, it doesn't include the OS or your apps. 
>> It also doesn't include large files like podcasts and music. Instead, it 
>> contains a list of all your apps and how you had them arranged, along with 
>> app data such as preferred settings and game scores. some apps include other 
>> data, like documents, but many do not. You have to download the data again. 
>> In short, restoring from a backup takes some work and I wouldn't recommend 
>> it unless there's a compelling reason to do it.
>> 
>> I hope that helps.
>> 
>> best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 8, 2017, at 5:23 AM, Vicki <vwher...@comcast.net 
>>> <mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good Morning,
>>>  
>>> I am very confused how to restore an ICloud backup on both my Phone and 
>>> mini IPad.
>>>  
>>> Shouldn't there be a list of backups somewhere to choose from?
>>>  
>>> Also, when I check the size of the storage used for backing up, it is very 
>>> small, only 111 mg. for my phone and Mini IPad combined.
>>>  
>>> If ICloud is backing up everything I have selected, shouldn't it be much 
>>> larger than that, if it is also including backing up the Current IOS?
>>>  
>>> Thanks. 
>>>  
>>> Vicki
>>>  
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Re: restoring an ICloud backup

[Vicki]

  Yes, thank you. Do you think that backing up with ITunes is a better choice? 
Does that back up more?

  Vicki


  - Original Message - 
  From: Woody Anna Dresner 
  To: VIPhone Mailing List 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 11:22 AM
  Subject: Re: restoring an ICloud backup


  Hi Vicki,


  To restore to an iCloud backup, go to Settings, choose General, then Reset, 
then Erase All Content and Settings. Follow the prompts. This will completely 
wipe all the info on your device. You then start the set-up process, and when 
you are asked, choose to restore from iCloud. The device will restore from the 
latest backup.


  As for why the backup file is small, it doesn't include the OS or your apps. 
It also doesn't include large files like podcasts and music. Instead, it 
contains a list of all your apps and how you had them arranged, along with app 
data such as preferred settings and game scores. some apps include other data, 
like documents, but many do not. You have to download the data again. In short, 
restoring from a backup takes some work and I wouldn't recommend it unless 
there's a compelling reason to do it.


  I hope that helps.


  best,
  Anna






On Aug 8, 2017, at 5:23 AM, Vicki <vwher...@comcast.net> wrote:


Good Morning,

I am very confused how to restore an ICloud backup on both my Phone and 
mini IPad.

Shouldn't there be a list of backups somewhere to choose from?

Also, when I check the size of the storage used for backing up, it is very 
small, only 111 mg. for my phone and Mini IPad combined.

If ICloud is backing up everything I have selected, shouldn't it be much 
larger than that, if it is also including backing up the Current IOS?

Thanks. 

Vicki



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Re: restoring an ICloud backup

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Vicki,

To restore to an iCloud backup, go to Settings, choose General, then Reset, 
then Erase All Content and Settings. Follow the prompts. This will completely 
wipe all the info on your device. You then start the set-up process, and when 
you are asked, choose to restore from iCloud. The device will restore from the 
latest backup.

As for why the backup file is small, it doesn't include the OS or your apps. It 
also doesn't include large files like podcasts and music. Instead, it contains 
a list of all your apps and how you had them arranged, along with app data such 
as preferred settings and game scores. some apps include other data, like 
documents, but many do not. You have to download the data again. In short, 
restoring from a backup takes some work and I wouldn't recommend it unless 
there's a compelling reason to do it.

I hope that helps.

best,
Anna



> On Aug 8, 2017, at 5:23 AM, Vicki <vwher...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Good Morning,
>  
> I am very confused how to restore an ICloud backup on both my Phone and mini 
> IPad.
>  
> Shouldn't there be a list of backups somewhere to choose from?
>  
> Also, when I check the size of the storage used for backing up, it is very 
> small, only 111 mg. for my phone and Mini IPad combined.
>  
> If ICloud is backing up everything I have selected, shouldn't it be much 
> larger than that, if it is also including backing up the Current IOS?
>  
> Thanks. 
>  
> Vicki
>  
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restoring an ICloud backup

[Vicki]

Good Morning,

I am very confused how to restore an ICloud backup on both my Phone and mini 
IPad.

Shouldn't there be a list of backups somewhere to choose from?

Also, when I check the size of the storage used for backing up, it is very 
small, only 111 mg. for my phone and Mini IPad combined.

If ICloud is backing up everything I have selected, shouldn't it be much larger 
than that, if it is also including backing up the Current IOS?

Thanks. 

Vicki

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Re: restoring from icloud backup

[John Panarese]

   If you get stuck like that, your only recourse is to delete the backup and 
start a new one. Unfortunately, you, of course, can’t finish the restore from 
the previous backup. Again, it’s important to allow the backup to complete.


Take Care

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> On Sep 23, 2016, at 11:16 AM, Greg Wocher <gwoc...@gwocher.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> When my dad got his new phone back in June, the rep at the AT store started 
> the restore from an iCloud backup. When we were ready to leave the restore 
> was not finished. The rep told my   Dad that it would be fine if we left. 
> This however screwed up my dads phone. My dads phone would not let him update 
> the phone when 9.3.4 came out. It kept telling him that his phone was not 
> done restoring from the backup even though this was a week or two later. It 
> is definintly important to stay in WIFI coverage till the restore is finished 
> because you cant do the restore with cell data.
> 
> Regards,
> Greg Wocher
> On 9/23/2016 10:03 AM, John Panarese wrote:
>>   When you set up the new phone, you should get an option to either start as 
>> new device or restore from a backup. At that point, you can choose your most 
>> recent backup. 
>> 
>>From experience, be sure you are on a wireless network and will be in 
>> range of that network until the restore is completely finished. In other 
>> words, if you start the restore in the Apple Store, be sure you are going to 
>> be there for the duration. I made this mistake and it wasn’t pretty.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
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>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
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>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2016, at 2:28 AM, don bishop <w6...@donbishop.org 
>>> <mailto:w6...@donbishop.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm getting an iphone 7 plus and want to restore the data from my ipone 6 
>>> plus onto the iphone 7 plus. I did a icloud backup, but unsure how to 
>>> restore from that backup. I don't see any ortion for that. Using ios 10.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks Don  
>>> Don  
>>> 
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Re: restoring from icloud backup

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,

When my dad got his new phone back in June, the rep at the AT store 
started the restore from an iCloud backup. When we were ready to leave 
the restore was not finished. The rep told my Dad that it would be fine 
if we left. This however screwed up my dads phone. My dads phone would 
not let him update the phone when 9.3.4 came out. It kept telling him 
that his phone was not done restoring from the backup even though this 
was a week or two later. It is definintly important to stay in WIFI 
coverage till the restore is finished because you cant do the restore 
with cell data.



Regards,
Greg Wocher
On 9/23/2016 10:03 AM, John Panarese wrote:
  When you set up the new phone, you should get an option to either 
start as new device or restore from a backup. At that point, you can 
choose your most recent backup.


   From experience, be sure you are on a wireless network and will be 
in range of that network until the restore is completely finished. In 
other words, if you start the restore in the Apple Store, be sure you 
are going to be there for the duration. I made this mistake and it 
wasn’t pretty.



Take Care

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On Sep 23, 2016, at 2:28 AM, don bishop <w6...@donbishop.org 
<mailto:w6...@donbishop.org>> wrote:


I'm getting an iphone 7 plus and want to restore the data from my 
ipone 6 plus onto the iphone 7 plus. I did a icloud backup, but 
unsure how to restore from that backup. I don't see any ortion for 
that. Using ios 10.



Thanks Don
Don


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Re: restoring from icloud backup

[John Panarese]

  When you set up the new phone, you should get an option to either start as 
new device or restore from a backup. At that point, you can choose your most 
recent backup. 

   From experience, be sure you are on a wireless network and will be in range 
of that network until the restore is completely finished. In other words, if 
you start the restore in the Apple Store, be sure you are going to be there for 
the duration. I made this mistake and it wasn’t pretty.


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> On Sep 23, 2016, at 2:28 AM, don bishop <w6...@donbishop.org> wrote:
> 
> I'm getting an iphone 7 plus and want to restore the data from my ipone 6 
> plus onto the iphone 7 plus. I did a icloud backup, but unsure how to restore 
> from that backup. I don't see any ortion for that. Using ios 10.
> 
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> Don  
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restoring from icloud backup

[don bishop]

I'm getting an iphone 7 plus and want to restore the data from my ipone 6 plus 
onto the iphone 7 plus. I did a icloud backup, but unsure how to restore from 
that backup. I don't see any ortion for that. Using ios 10.


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Re: Restoring iPhone 7 from iCloud backup

[Anthony Vece]

Hi Wayne; I would call Apple accessibility 877-204-3930



Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 4:37 AM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> All,
> Last night I got my new iPhone 7! Yay! When setting up the phone I was asked 
> what method I wanted to use to restore my information. I chose the most 
> recent iCloud backup that I had made. When checking my phone an hour ago 
> though, it looked like a brand new phone does. None of my apps and folders 
> that I had on the 6S were showing on the new 7. This is the first time 
> something like this has happened to me, each time before when I had restored 
> from iCloud, all of my stuff came back. What do I need to do to get 
> everything on the 7 like I had it on my 6S? Do I need to start over by 
> erasing all data and setting up the 7 all over again? Please help!! All of my 
> settings, app purchases, and app positions have been erased on the new 7. I 
> really don't want to have to download each app all over again and arrange 
> them, but I've got nothing else going on this weekend, grin.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Wayne Merritt
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Re: Restoring iPhone 7 from iCloud backup

[Wayne Merritt]

Thanks Anna. I solved my problem by reseting my phone and erasing all content 
and settings. I didn't have much data on so I figured why not. It worked! I was 
able to setup my phone as if it were a new phone and restore from iCloud. I've 
got all my apps, folders and settings like I had before.

Sincerely,

Wayne Merritt
Sent from my iPhone 7

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
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> Hi Wayne,
> 
> First, I would make sure your Internet connection is working properly. If it 
> is, check your old phone to see when it was backed up last & do another 
> backup to be sure everything is backed up. Then go to 
> Settings/General/Reset/Erase on the new phone, erase  all, and try restoring 
> from the backup again. I had something similar happen Where I tried to 
> restore from iTunes and only got a few apps. Fortunately, the second attempt 
> went fine.
> 
> Good luck,
> Anna
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 3:37 AM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> All,
>> Last night I got my new iPhone 7! Yay! When setting up the phone I was asked 
>> what method I wanted to use to restore my information. I chose the most 
>> recent iCloud backup that I had made. When checking my phone an hour ago 
>> though, it looked like a brand new phone does. None of my apps and folders 
>> that I had on the 6S were showing on the new 7. This is the first time 
>> something like this has happened to me, each time before when I had restored 
>> from iCloud, all of my stuff came back. What do I need to do to get 
>> everything on the 7 like I had it on my 6S? Do I need to start over by 
>> erasing all data and setting up the 7 all over again? Please help!! All of 
>> my settings, app purchases, and app positions have been erased on the new 7. 
>> I really don't want to have to download each app all over again and arrange 
>> them, but I've got nothing else going on this weekend, grin.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> Wayne Merritt
>> Sent from my iPhone 7
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Re: Restoring iPhone 7 from iCloud backup

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Wayne,

First, I would make sure your Internet connection is working properly. If it 
is, check your old phone to see when it was backed up last & do another backup 
to be sure everything is backed up. Then go to Settings/General/Reset/Erase on 
the new phone, erase  all, and try restoring from the backup again. I had 
something similar happen Where I tried to restore from iTunes and only got a 
few apps. Fortunately, the second attempt went fine.

Good luck,
Anna


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> On Sep 17, 2016, at 3:37 AM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> All,
> Last night I got my new iPhone 7! Yay! When setting up the phone I was asked 
> what method I wanted to use to restore my information. I chose the most 
> recent iCloud backup that I had made. When checking my phone an hour ago 
> though, it looked like a brand new phone does. None of my apps and folders 
> that I had on the 6S were showing on the new 7. This is the first time 
> something like this has happened to me, each time before when I had restored 
> from iCloud, all of my stuff came back. What do I need to do to get 
> everything on the 7 like I had it on my 6S? Do I need to start over by 
> erasing all data and setting up the 7 all over again? Please help!! All of my 
> settings, app purchases, and app positions have been erased on the new 7. I 
> really don't want to have to download each app all over again and arrange 
> them, but I've got nothing else going on this weekend, grin.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Wayne Merritt
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Restoring iPhone 7 from iCloud backup

[Wayne Merritt]

All,
Last night I got my new iPhone 7! Yay! When setting up the phone I was asked 
what method I wanted to use to restore my information. I chose the most recent 
iCloud backup that I had made. When checking my phone an hour ago though, it 
looked like a brand new phone does. None of my apps and folders that I had on 
the 6S were showing on the new 7. This is the first time something like this 
has happened to me, each time before when I had restored from iCloud, all of my 
stuff came back. What do I need to do to get everything on the 7 like I had it 
on my 6S? Do I need to start over by erasing all data and setting up the 7 all 
over again? Please help!! All of my settings, app purchases, and app positions 
have been erased on the new 7. I really don't want to have to download each app 
all over again and arrange them, but I've got nothing else going on this 
weekend, grin.

Sincerely,
Wayne Merritt
Sent from my iPhone 7

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Re: Restoring Phone from Icloud Backup

[Rajmund]

Hello,
They will redownload. So, at the slide to reset screen, you will get to a 
screen, where it says setup as new, import from android, restore from iTunes, 
restore from iCloud backup. Choose iCloud backup. 



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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, July 8, 2016 1:07 pm
Subject: Restoring Phone from Icloud Backup

>
>
>  
> Could someone please tell me how to restore my phone from an 
> Icloud backup? I have been having a lot of problems with my phone bein 
> unresponsive. I constantly have to lock my phone only to unlock it to 
> continue doing what I was doing. Last night, I backed my phone up to the 
> cloud. I reset my phone to factory settings and erased the content. I can't 
> seem to find where to restore my phone from the cloud. 
>  
> Also, are my apps and folders going to redownload as they were before? Or, am 
> I going to have to download all the apps again? 
>  
> Thank you very much, 
>  
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Restoring Phone from Icloud Backup

[Lynda Ingraham]

 

Could someone please tell me how to restore my phone from an
Icloud backup? I have been having a lot of problems with my phone bein
unresponsive. I constantly have to lock my phone only to unlock it to
continue doing what I was doing. Last night, I backed my phone up to the
cloud. I reset my phone to factory settings and erased the content. I can't
seem to find where to restore my phone from the cloud. 

 

Also, are my apps and folders going to redownload as they were before? Or,
am I going to have to download all the apps again? 

 

Thank you very much, 

 

Lynda 

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Re: Do Voice Dream Reader voices get backed up with an encrypted iTunes backup or iCloud backup?

[Mary Otten]

I think it is supposed to work in theory if you do an encrypted iTunes backup. 
I did that, and I lost my iVona voices, and my attempt to reinstall them last 
year was a miserable failure. I tried more than once with the same result. 
However, I had a discussion on list at that time, and there were others who had 
not had this problem. So good luck.
Mary


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> On Mar 14, 2016, at 10:09 AM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Subject pretty much says it all. I'd like to be able to keep the Ivona voices 
> I've bought, if at all possible, and backed up others, just in case they no 
> longer are available at some point. Is this possible?
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> Thanks,
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Do Voice Dream Reader voices get backed up with an encrypted iTunes backup or iCloud backup?

[englishrider91]

Subject pretty much says it all. I'd like to be able to keep the Ivona voices 
I've bought, if at all possible, and backed up others, just in case they no 
longer are available at some point. Is this possible?


Thanks,
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iCloud backup

[Iolaire]

Hi.  Can somebody answer a question for me please.  I have an iPhone 6,
128gig model.  I got an iStick and placed around 15gig of music on the
phone.  Every time I charge the phone I'm told the phone hasn't been backed
up for x number of weeks, if I recall it says there is not enough space.  I
went to settings and I have the default storage of 5gig so I am well over
the limit just with my music.  This music is not in the iPhone music app but
it is stored in the iStick app.  Now although the iCloud settings said I had
5gig of storage, when it tells me what I have left it says 4.9gig.  Now I'm
wondering, why is the  phone saying I have 4.9gig of storage left but it
then tells me the phone hasn't been backed up because there is not enough
space?  When it comes to backing up, is it all or nothing? but if that is
the case then what is the 100mg that is up there since it says I have 4.9gig
left.  If it were all or nothing then I would imagine it would say I have
5gig left.  Answers I understand will be appreciated. LOL.  Walter.



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Re: iCloud backup

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

Even if you aren't using iCloud backup, you may be using iCloud to sync 
contacts, icloud.com <http://icloud.com/> email messages, Pages documents, and 
similar data. If so, that data would explain the numbers you are seeing.

It sounds like you have two options : buy more iCloud storage (you can get 50 
GB for $1 per month, or more for more money), or turn off iCloud backup and 
back up to your computer. If you turn iCloud backup off, your phone will back 
up to your computer automatically every time you connect it.

Best,
Anna



> On Nov 19, 2015, at 12:44 PM, Iolaire <w...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hi.  Can somebody answer a question for me please.  I have an iPhone 6, 
> 128gig model.  I got an iStick and placed around 15gig of music on the phone. 
>  Every time I charge the phone I'm told the phone hasn't been backed up for x 
> number of weeks, if I recall it says there is not enough space.  I went to 
> settings and I have the default storage of 5gig so I am well over the limit 
> just with my music.  This music is not in the iPhone music app but it is 
> stored in the iStick app.  Now although the iCloud settings said I had 5gig 
> of storage, when it tells me what I have left it says 4.9gig.  Now I'm 
> wondering, why is the  phone saying I have 4.9gig of storage left but it then 
> tells me the phone hasn't been backed up because there is not enough space?  
> When it comes to backing up, is it all or nothing? but if that is the case 
> then what is the 100mg that is up there since it says I have 4.9gig left.  If 
> it were all or nothing then I would imagine it would say I have 5gig left.  
> Answers I understand will be appreciated. LOL.  Walter.
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Re: restoring a new iPhone from an iCloud Backup

[John Diakogeorgiou]

They don't set up the phone. All they do is put a simm card with your
phone information on it. So when you turn it on you still need to
enter your id and password and set up the phone.
As far as restoring from backup, before you restore your phone, try
going to settings, iCloud and entering your user name and password. It
may restore your phone.

On 9/29/15, Gerardo Corripio <gera1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>   OK and if the phone has been sent and I don't know the pass-code?
> Hopefully they'll send it without one!
> El 29/09/2015 03:23 p.m., Woody Anna Dresner escribió:
>> Hi Brian,
>>
>> Go to Settings and choose General, then Reset, then Erase all Content and
>> Settings. You'll need to enter your phone passcode at least once to
>> confirm that you want to do this. Once the phone resets, press the Home
>> button 3 times to turn on VoiceOVer and go through the setup process. You
>> won't have to activate again because your phone info is in your sim card.
>> After you set up Wi-Fi and a couple more steps, you'll have the option to
>> restore from an iCloud backup.
>>
>> HTH,
>> Anna
>>
>>
>>
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>>> How do I restore my new iphone from an  iCloud backup? I essentially
>>> want the new phone to reflect what I had on the old one. I did a
>>> google of this process and think I get it but would appreciate one of
>>> you fine folks giving your input. All the best, Brian
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restoring a new iPhone from an iCloud Backup

[Brian Albriton]

How do I restore my new iphone from an  iCloud backup? I essentially
want the new phone to reflect what I had on the old one. I did a
google of this process and think I get it but would appreciate one of
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Re: restoring a new iPhone from an iCloud Backup

[Jeffrey Shockley]

Hi,
Here’s what you do.
Turn on the new phone, and run through the first part of the Setup Assistant. 
Once you connect to your Wi-Fi network, there is an option to restore from an 
iCloud backup. It’s really easy, and everything is pretty much explained 
onscreen.
Hope this helps,
Jeffrey
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Re: restoring a new iPhone from an iCloud Backup

[Gerardo Corripio]

 Wow thanks for these tips, fo for when I get mine in a few weeks, I'll 
know what to do to restore. I would have thought i'd have to go to 
Settings/General/Restore, but maybe there's another way?


El 29/09/2015 03:09 p.m., Brian Albriton escribió:

That does help, indeed. My iphone six is already up and running. So
how to I get to this set up assistant screen. Would I choose one of
the options in reset?
To make it a little clearer, they set it up at the apple store, and at
the time, I did not have this icloud backup available. Hope this makes
sense.

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How do I restore my new iphone from an  iCloud backup? I essentially
want the new phone to reflect what I had on the old one. I did a
google of this process and think I get it but would appreciate one of
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Re: restoring a new iPhone from an iCloud Backup

[Brian Albriton]

That does help, indeed. My iphone six is already up and running. So
how to I get to this set up assistant screen. Would I choose one of
the options in reset?
To make it a little clearer, they set it up at the apple store, and at
the time, I did not have this icloud backup available. Hope this makes
sense.

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> How do I restore my new iphone from an  iCloud backup? I essentially
> want the new phone to reflect what I had on the old one. I did a
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Re: restoring a new iPhone from an iCloud Backup

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Brian,

Go to Settings and choose General, then Reset, then Erase all Content and 
Settings. You'll need to enter your phone passcode at least once to confirm 
that you want to do this. Once the phone resets, press the Home button 3 times 
to turn on VoiceOVer and go through the setup process. You won't have to 
activate again because your phone info is in your sim card. After you set up 
Wi-Fi and a couple more steps, you'll have the option to restore from an iCloud 
backup.

HTH,
Anna



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Re: restoring a new iPhone from an iCloud Backup

[Gerardo Corripio]

 OK and if the phone has been sent and I don't know the pass-code? 
Hopefully they'll send it without one!

El 29/09/2015 03:23 p.m., Woody Anna Dresner escribió:

Hi Brian,

Go to Settings and choose General, then Reset, then Erase all Content and 
Settings. You'll need to enter your phone passcode at least once to confirm 
that you want to do this. Once the phone resets, press the Home button 3 times 
to turn on VoiceOVer and go through the setup process. You won't have to 
activate again because your phone info is in your sim card. After you set up 
Wi-Fi and a couple more steps, you'll have the option to restore from an iCloud 
backup.

HTH,
Anna




On Sep 29, 2015, at 2:33 PM, Brian Albriton<autoharp...@gmail.com>  wrote:

How do I restore my new iphone from an  iCloud backup? I essentially
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Re: iCloud backup

[Jenifer Barr]

One thing I wish it would back up is messages. There is no option to back up 
texts or iMessages. I wonder why? 

Jenifer Barr
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 23, 2015, at 5:22 AM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
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> OK, I don't have anything that does articles, so I'll just leave them all on! 
>  
>  
> Carol P
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Alex Hall
> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone
> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 1:07 AM
> Subject: Re: iCloud backup
> 
> By default, all apps will back up to iCloud, as far as I know. The ones I 
> turn off are the ones that save *all* of their content online anyway. 
> Instapaper or Pocket, for instance, will pull all your articles, folders, and 
> so on from the internet once you log in, so there's no sense backing them up. 
> Same for Facebook, Messenger, Rooms, Twitter, Dice World, Skype, and others. 
> Of course, I did all this back in the caveman days of early 2015, way back 
> when I only had 5GB of iCloud space. Now that I'm paying a buck a month for 
> 50GB, I don't bother and let iCloud back up whatever it wants to. 
>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 16:29, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Another question springs from that one:   Which apps should we check to 
>> enable iCloud backup?
>>  
>> If in doubt I check mine, but am not always sure which to go for.
>>  
>> I guess the GPS apps that save POIs may be included ... or maybe not ...
>>  
>> Anyway, if anyone uses ones that definitely backup to iCloud, I'd like to 
>> know.
>>  
>> Carol P
>>  
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Alex Hall
>>> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 8:34 PM
>>> Subject: Re: iCloud backup
>>> 
>>> They should be safe in your iCloud backup, so long as VDR is set to back 
>>> up, of course.
>>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 15:02, Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Will my books on Voice Dream Reader come back when restoring from iCloud 
>>>> backup or only from iTunes backup?
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Harry
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>> On 22 Sep 2015, at 19:56, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> An iCloud backup will give you everything--apps and all their data, home 
>>>>> screen layout, settings, all that. The only things it lacks are secure 
>>>>> items. That is, it won't give you your wifi passwords, logins for apps, 
>>>>> and so on. It will be unaffected by iCloud Keychain for Safari; what I 
>>>>> mean is that your Facebook app, for instance, won't come up with you 
>>>>> logged in. It will instead have you log in when you first open it, 
>>>>> because iCloud backups don't contain login details like that. I hope this 
>>>>> makes sense.
>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 14:29, Chris Smart <csma...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Follow-up question:
>>>>>> If one just backs up to the cloud  regularly, not backing up 
>>>>>> using iTunes, and needs to restore the phone at some future time, will 
>>>>>> they have to manually download each app again from the App Store, then 
>>>>>> restore from the last iCloud back up? Or, is iCloud smart enough to also 
>>>>>> get the App store to redownload all apps?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> At 06:00 PM 9/18/2015, you wrote:
>>>>>>> It does not back up apps, it will back up your data such as contacts. 
>>>>>>> For a true backup use iTunes and backup the phone that way. That will 
>>>>>>> backup all your apps and data.
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Steve Sweeney
>>>>>>> Sent: September 18, 2015 17:35
>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: iCloud backup
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> Does the iCloud backup backup the entire phone including all of its 
>>>>>>> apps and data or does it just back up the OS and basic data like 
>>>&g

Re: iCloud backup

[Wayne Merritt]

I believe you can go into Settings/Messages, and choose to have
messsages kept for certain lengths of time, such as a week, a month,
or forever. I have changed this to forever, since there are some work
related messages that I need access to. I made the change several
years ago and whenever I have updated my iPhone or gotten a new phone
and restored from iCloud, all of my messages have been there. So far
this hasn't blown up my iCloud storage since I still have over half of
the free 5 gigs available. I backup many other things to iCloud too,
so it's not all saved messages.

Wayne

On 9/23/15, Jenifer Barr <claudas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> One thing I wish it would back up is messages. There is no option to back up
> texts or iMessages. I wonder why?
>
> Jenifer Barr
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 23, 2015, at 5:22 AM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> OK, I don't have anything that does articles, so I'll just leave them all
>> on!  
>>
>> Carol P
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Alex Hall
>> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 1:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: iCloud backup
>>
>> By default, all apps will back up to iCloud, as far as I know. The ones I
>> turn off are the ones that save *all* of their content online anyway.
>> Instapaper or Pocket, for instance, will pull all your articles, folders,
>> and so on from the internet once you log in, so there's no sense backing
>> them up. Same for Facebook, Messenger, Rooms, Twitter, Dice World, Skype,
>> and others. Of course, I did all this back in the caveman days of early
>> 2015, way back when I only had 5GB of iCloud space. Now that I'm paying a
>> buck a month for 50GB, I don't bother and let iCloud back up whatever it
>> wants to. 
>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 16:29, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone
>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Another question springs from that one:   Which apps should we check
>>> to enable iCloud backup?
>>>
>>> If in doubt I check mine, but am not always sure which to go for.
>>>
>>> I guess the GPS apps that save POIs may be included ... or maybe not ...
>>>
>>> Anyway, if anyone uses ones that definitely backup to iCloud, I'd like to
>>> know.
>>>
>>> Carol P
>>>
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: Alex Hall
>>>> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 8:34 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: iCloud backup
>>>>
>>>> They should be safe in your iCloud backup, so long as VDR is set to back
>>>> up, of course.
>>>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 15:02, Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Will my books on Voice Dream Reader come back when restoring from
>>>>> iCloud backup or only from iTunes backup?
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Harry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 22 Sep 2015, at 19:56, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An iCloud backup will give you everything--apps and all their data,
>>>>>> home screen layout, settings, all that. The only things it lacks are
>>>>>> secure items. That is, it won't give you your wifi passwords, logins
>>>>>> for apps, and so on. It will be unaffected by iCloud Keychain for
>>>>>> Safari; what I mean is that your Facebook app, for instance, won't
>>>>>> come up with you logged in. It will instead have you log in when you
>>>>>> first open it, because iCloud backups don't contain login details like
>>>>>> that. I hope this makes sense.
>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 14:29, Chris Smart <csma...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Follow-up question:
>>>>>>> If one just backs up to the cloud      regularly, not backing
>>>>>>> up using iTunes, and needs to restore the phone at some future time,
>>>>>>> will they have to manually download each app again from the App
>>>>>>> Store, then restore from the last iCloud back up? Or, is iCloud smart
>>>>>>> enough to also get the App store to redownload all apps?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

Re: iCloud backup

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

OK, I don't have anything that does articles, so I'll just leave them all on!  


Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Alex Hall 
  To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 1:07 AM
  Subject: Re: iCloud backup


  By default, all apps will back up to iCloud, as far as I know. The ones I 
turn off are the ones that save *all* of their content online anyway. 
Instapaper or Pocket, for instance, will pull all your articles, folders, and 
so on from the internet once you log in, so there's no sense backing them up. 
Same for Facebook, Messenger, Rooms, Twitter, Dice World, Skype, and others. Of 
course, I did all this back in the caveman days of early 2015, way back when I 
only had 5GB of iCloud space. Now that I'm paying a buck a month for 50GB, I 
don't bother and let iCloud back up whatever it wants to. 

On Sep 22, 2015, at 16:29, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:


Another question springs from that one:  Which apps should we check to 
enable iCloud backup?

If in doubt I check mine, but am not always sure which to go for.

I guess the GPS apps that save POIs may be included ... or maybe not ...

Anyway, if anyone uses ones that definitely backup to iCloud, I'd like to 
know.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Alex Hall 
  To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 8:34 PM
  Subject: Re: iCloud backup


  They should be safe in your iCloud backup, so long as VDR is set to back 
up, of course.

On Sep 22, 2015, at 15:02, Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com> wrote:


Will my books on Voice Dream Reader come back when restoring from 
iCloud backup or only from iTunes backup?
Thanks
Harry

 

On 22 Sep 2015, at 19:56, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:


      An iCloud backup will give you everything--apps and all their data, 
home screen layout, settings, all that. The only things it lacks are secure 
items. That is, it won't give you your wifi passwords, logins for apps, and so 
on. It will be unaffected by iCloud Keychain for Safari; what I mean is that 
your Facebook app, for instance, won't come up with you logged in. It will 
instead have you log in when you first open it, because iCloud backups don't 
contain login details like that. I hope this makes sense.

On Sep 22, 2015, at 14:29, Chris Smart <csma...@cogeco.ca> wrote:


Follow-up question:
If one just backs up to the cloud regularly, not backing up using 
iTunes, and needs to restore the phone at some future time, will they have to 
manually download each app again from the App Store, then restore from the last 
iCloud back up? Or, is iCloud smart enough to also get the App store to 
redownload all apps?

Chris

 
At 06:00 PM 9/18/2015, you wrote:

  It does not back up apps, it will back up your data such as 
contacts. For a true backup use iTunes and backup the phone that way. That will 
backup all your apps and data.
   
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Steve Sweeney
  Sent: September 18, 2015 17:35
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
      Subject: iCloud backup
   
  Hi,
      Does the iCloud backup backup the entire phone including all of 
its apps and data or does it just back up the OS and basic data like contacts… 
tthe checked items in iCloud in settings?
  Thx –Steve
   
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Re: iCloud backup

[Alex Hall]

An iCloud backup will give you everything--apps and all their data, home screen 
layout, settings, all that. The only things it lacks are secure items. That is, 
it won't give you your wifi passwords, logins for apps, and so on. It will be 
unaffected by iCloud Keychain for Safari; what I mean is that your Facebook 
app, for instance, won't come up with you logged in. It will instead have you 
log in when you first open it, because iCloud backups don't contain login 
details like that. I hope this makes sense.
> On Sep 22, 2015, at 14:29, Chris Smart <csma...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
> 
> Follow-up question:
> If one just backs up to the cloud regularly, not backing up using iTunes, and 
> needs to restore the phone at some future time, will they have to manually 
> download each app again from the App Store, then restore from the last iCloud 
> back up? Or, is iCloud smart enough to also get the App store to redownload 
> all apps?
> 
> Chris
> 
>  
> At 06:00 PM 9/18/2015, you wrote:
>> It does not back up apps, it will back up your data such as contacts. For a 
>> true backup use iTunes and backup the phone that way. That will backup all 
>> your apps and data.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Steve Sweeney
>> Sent: September 18, 2015 17:35
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iCloud backup
>>  
>> Hi,
>> Does the iCloud backup backup the entire phone including all of its apps and 
>> data or does it just back up the OS and basic data like contacts… tthe 
>> checked items in iCloud in settings?
>> Thx –Steve
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Re: iCloud backup

[Harry Bell]

Will my books on Voice Dream Reader come back when restoring from iCloud backup 
or only from iTunes backup?
Thanks
Harry

 

> On 22 Sep 2015, at 19:56, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> An iCloud backup will give you everything--apps and all their data, home 
> screen layout, settings, all that. The only things it lacks are secure items. 
> That is, it won't give you your wifi passwords, logins for apps, and so on. 
> It will be unaffected by iCloud Keychain for Safari; what I mean is that your 
> Facebook app, for instance, won't come up with you logged in. It will instead 
> have you log in when you first open it, because iCloud backups don't contain 
> login details like that. I hope this makes sense.
>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 14:29, Chris Smart <csma...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Follow-up question:
>> If one just backs up to the cloud regularly, not backing up using iTunes, 
>> and needs to restore the phone at some future time, will they have to 
>> manually download each app again from the App Store, then restore from the 
>> last iCloud back up? Or, is iCloud smart enough to also get the App store to 
>> redownload all apps?
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>>  
>> At 06:00 PM 9/18/2015, you wrote:
>>> It does not back up apps, it will back up your data such as contacts. For a 
>>> true backup use iTunes and backup the phone that way. That will backup all 
>>> your apps and data.
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Steve Sweeney
>>> Sent: September 18, 2015 17:35
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: iCloud backup
>>>  
>>> Hi,
>>> Does the iCloud backup backup the entire phone including all of its apps 
>>> and data or does it just back up the OS and basic data like contacts… tthe 
>>> checked items in iCloud in settings?
>>> Thx –Steve
>>>  
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Re: iCloud backup

[Alex Hall]

They should be safe in your iCloud backup, so long as VDR is set to back up, of 
course.
> On Sep 22, 2015, at 15:02, Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Will my books on Voice Dream Reader come back when restoring from iCloud 
> backup or only from iTunes backup?
> Thanks
> Harry
> 
>  
> 
> On 22 Sep 2015, at 19:56, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com 
> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
> 
>> An iCloud backup will give you everything--apps and all their data, home 
>> screen layout, settings, all that. The only things it lacks are secure 
>> items. That is, it won't give you your wifi passwords, logins for apps, and 
>> so on. It will be unaffected by iCloud Keychain for Safari; what I mean is 
>> that your Facebook app, for instance, won't come up with you logged in. It 
>> will instead have you log in when you first open it, because iCloud backups 
>> don't contain login details like that. I hope this makes sense.
>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 14:29, Chris Smart <csma...@cogeco.ca 
>>> <mailto:csma...@cogeco.ca>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Follow-up question:
>>> If one just backs up to the cloud regularly, not backing up using iTunes, 
>>> and needs to restore the phone at some future time, will they have to 
>>> manually download each app again from the App Store, then restore from the 
>>> last iCloud back up? Or, is iCloud smart enough to also get the App store 
>>> to redownload all apps?
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>>  
>>> At 06:00 PM 9/18/2015, you wrote:
>>>> It does not back up apps, it will back up your data such as contacts. For 
>>>> a true backup use iTunes and backup the phone that way. That will backup 
>>>> all your apps and data.
>>>>  
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [ 
>>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Steve Sweeney
>>>> Sent: September 18, 2015 17:35
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: iCloud backup
>>>>  
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Does the iCloud backup backup the entire phone including all of its apps 
>>>> and data or does it just back up the OS and basic data like contacts… tthe 
>>>> checked items in iCloud in settings?
>>>> Thx –Steve
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RE: iCloud backup

[Chris Smart]

Follow-up question:
If one just backs up to the cloud regularly, not backing up using iTunes,
and needs to restore the phone at some future time, will they have to
manually download each app again from the App Store, then restore from
the last iCloud back up? Or, is iCloud smart enough to also get the App
store to redownload all apps?
Chris
 
At 06:00 PM 9/18/2015, you wrote:
It does not back up apps, it
will back up your data such as contacts. For a true backup use iTunes and
backup the phone that way. That will backup all your apps and data.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
[
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Sweeney
Sent: September 18, 2015 17:35
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iCloud backup
 
Hi,
Does the iCloud backup backup the entire phone including all of its apps
and data or does it just back up the OS and basic data like contacts…
tthe checked items in iCloud in settings?
Thx –Steve
 
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Re: iCloud backup

[Harry Bell]

Thanks, Alex - fingers crossed!

 

> On 22 Sep 2015, at 20:34, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> They should be safe in your iCloud backup, so long as VDR is set to back up, 
> of course.
>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 15:02, Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Will my books on Voice Dream Reader come back when restoring from iCloud 
>> backup or only from iTunes backup?
>> Thanks
>> Harry
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>> On 22 Sep 2015, at 19:56, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> An iCloud backup will give you everything--apps and all their data, home 
>>> screen layout, settings, all that. The only things it lacks are secure 
>>> items. That is, it won't give you your wifi passwords, logins for apps, and 
>>> so on. It will be unaffected by iCloud Keychain for Safari; what I mean is 
>>> that your Facebook app, for instance, won't come up with you logged in. It 
>>> will instead have you log in when you first open it, because iCloud backups 
>>> don't contain login details like that. I hope this makes sense.
>>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 14:29, Chris Smart <csma...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Follow-up question:
>>>> If one just backs up to the cloud regularly, not backing up using iTunes, 
>>>> and needs to restore the phone at some future time, will they have to 
>>>> manually download each app again from the App Store, then restore from the 
>>>> last iCloud back up? Or, is iCloud smart enough to also get the App store 
>>>> to redownload all apps?
>>>> 
>>>> Chris
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> At 06:00 PM 9/18/2015, you wrote:
>>>>> It does not back up apps, it will back up your data such as contacts. For 
>>>>> a true backup use iTunes and backup the phone that way. That will backup 
>>>>> all your apps and data.
>>>>>  
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Steve Sweeney
>>>>> Sent: September 18, 2015 17:35
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>>>>> Does the iCloud backup backup the entire phone including all of its apps 
>>>>> and data or does it just back up the OS and basic data like contacts… 
>>>>> tthe checked items in iCloud in settings?
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Re: iCloud backup

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Another question springs from that one:  Which apps should we check to enable 
iCloud backup?

If in doubt I check mine, but am not always sure which to go for.

I guess the GPS apps that save POIs may be included ... or maybe not ...

Anyway, if anyone uses ones that definitely backup to iCloud, I'd like to know.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Alex Hall 
  To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 8:34 PM
  Subject: Re: iCloud backup


  They should be safe in your iCloud backup, so long as VDR is set to back up, 
of course.

On Sep 22, 2015, at 15:02, Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com> wrote:


Will my books on Voice Dream Reader come back when restoring from iCloud 
backup or only from iTunes backup?
Thanks
Harry

 

On 22 Sep 2015, at 19:56, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:


      An iCloud backup will give you everything--apps and all their data, home 
screen layout, settings, all that. The only things it lacks are secure items. 
That is, it won't give you your wifi passwords, logins for apps, and so on. It 
will be unaffected by iCloud Keychain for Safari; what I mean is that your 
Facebook app, for instance, won't come up with you logged in. It will instead 
have you log in when you first open it, because iCloud backups don't contain 
login details like that. I hope this makes sense.

On Sep 22, 2015, at 14:29, Chris Smart <csma...@cogeco.ca> wrote:


Follow-up question:
If one just backs up to the cloud regularly, not backing up using 
iTunes, and needs to restore the phone at some future time, will they have to 
manually download each app again from the App Store, then restore from the last 
iCloud back up? Or, is iCloud smart enough to also get the App store to 
redownload all apps?

Chris

 
At 06:00 PM 9/18/2015, you wrote:

  It does not back up apps, it will back up your data such as contacts. 
For a true backup use iTunes and backup the phone that way. That will backup 
all your apps and data.
   
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Steve Sweeney
  Sent: September 18, 2015 17:35
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
      Subject: iCloud backup
   
  Hi,
      Does the iCloud backup backup the entire phone including all of its 
apps and data or does it just back up the OS and basic data like contacts… tthe 
checked items in iCloud in settings?
  Thx –Steve
   
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Re: iCloud backup

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By default, all apps will back up to iCloud, as far as I know. The ones I turn 
off are the ones that save *all* of their content online anyway. Instapaper or 
Pocket, for instance, will pull all your articles, folders, and so on from the 
internet once you log in, so there's no sense backing them up. Same for 
Facebook, Messenger, Rooms, Twitter, Dice World, Skype, and others. Of course, 
I did all this back in the caveman days of early 2015, way back when I only had 
5GB of iCloud space. Now that I'm paying a buck a month for 50GB, I don't 
bother and let iCloud back up whatever it wants to. 
> On Sep 22, 2015, at 16:29, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Another question springs from that one:  Which apps should we check to enable 
> iCloud backup?
>  
> If in doubt I check mine, but am not always sure which to go for.
>  
> I guess the GPS apps that save POIs may be included ... or maybe not ...
>  
> Anyway, if anyone uses ones that definitely backup to iCloud, I'd like to 
> know.
>  
> Carol P
>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Alex Hall <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>
>> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 8:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: iCloud backup
>> 
>> They should be safe in your iCloud backup, so long as VDR is set to back up, 
>> of course.
>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 15:02, Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com 
>>> <mailto:ubupanora...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Will my books on Voice Dream Reader come back when restoring from iCloud 
>>> backup or only from iTunes backup?
>>> Thanks
>>> Harry
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On 22 Sep 2015, at 19:56, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com 
>>> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> An iCloud backup will give you everything--apps and all their data, home 
>>>> screen layout, settings, all that. The only things it lacks are secure 
>>>> items. That is, it won't give you your wifi passwords, logins for apps, 
>>>> and so on. It will be unaffected by iCloud Keychain for Safari; what I 
>>>> mean is that your Facebook app, for instance, won't come up with you 
>>>> logged in. It will instead have you log in when you first open it, because 
>>>> iCloud backups don't contain login details like that. I hope this makes 
>>>> sense.
>>>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 14:29, Chris Smart <csma...@cogeco.ca 
>>>>> <mailto:csma...@cogeco.ca>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Follow-up question:
>>>>> If one just backs up to the cloud regularly, not backing up using iTunes, 
>>>>> and needs to restore the phone at some future time, will they have to 
>>>>> manually download each app again from the App Store, then restore from 
>>>>> the last iCloud back up? Or, is iCloud smart enough to also get the App 
>>>>> store to redownload all apps?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> At 06:00 PM 9/18/2015, you wrote:
>>>>>> It does not back up apps, it will back up your data such as contacts. 
>>>>>> For a true backup use iTunes and backup the phone that way. That will 
>>>>>> backup all your apps and data.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [ 
>>>>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On 
>>>>>> Behalf Of Steve Sweeney
>>>>>> Sent: September 18, 2015 17:35
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Subject: iCloud backup
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> Does the iCloud backup backup the entire phone including all of its apps 
>>>>>> and data or does it just back up the OS and basic data like contacts… 
>>>>>> tthe checked items in iCloud in settings?
>>>>>> Thx –Steve
>>>>>>  
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Re: is app data included in the iCloud backup

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Yeah, that would be interesting to know.  After all, when you upgrade over 
the air everything (usually) comes back absolutely sorted as you left it, 
though I know for some upgrades (if you have the space) it's not necessary 
that the information is removed, so perhaps that's why!  


Anyone know?

Carol P

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Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 6:04 AM
Subject: is app data included in the iCloud backup


I know that app data does get backed up to the cloud, but I'm wondering if 
it is a part of an actual iCloud backup, or is it treated separately like 
contacts and calendar data? What is prompting me to ask the question, is 
that I'm trying to figure out just how my app data got restored back to my 
iPhone 6.


Somehow, after I upgraded to iOS 9 from the iOS 9 public beta, opting to 
do that rather than upgrade to the iOS 9.1 beta, I goofed up something 
during the process.  For, when I tried to restore from iTunes, only my 
default apps were showing up, even though my device settings appeared to 
be restored.  Then, when I tried to restore from an iCloud backup, I was 
told there were no backups of my device, even though I had backed up to 
iCloud just a few days before.  Although, to be fair, I had checked iCloud 
earlier before I started this process and was told there were no backups, 
and in fact, the several backups I had then tried to perform had failed, 
something I just attributed to using the beta.  I had, though,  just done 
an encrypted iTunes backup manually.


Thus, after several attempts to restore my apps from the iTunes backup not 
working, I finally just restored once again from that iTunes backup that 
preserved my settings, and then I manually went in and put all my apps 
back on the phone.  I first started adding them through iTunes, but found 
that more time consuming than I liked, so used the app store on my phone 
to put the rest of them back.  Then, I was fully prepared to either put 
all my app data on the phone manually, or just live without it, depending 
on the app.  So, you can imagine just how pleased I was to go into all my 
apps and find all my data there and up to date.  For examples, my two 
checkbook programs had my account transactions even from earlier that day, 
Ariadne GPS showed all my favorites and Weather Radio still showed my 
selected cities.  I figured I had overwritten the iTunes backup with all 
my attempts to fix things, and I had lost my prior iCloud backup somehow 
when working with the beta.


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is app data included in the iCloud backup

[Vicky Collins]

I know that app data does get backed up to the cloud, but I'm 
wondering if it is a part of an actual iCloud backup, or is it 
treated separately like contacts and calendar data? What is 
prompting me to ask the question, is that I'm trying to figure 
out just how my app data got restored back to my iPhone 6.


Somehow, after I upgraded to iOS 9 from the iOS 9 public beta, 
opting to do that rather than upgrade to the iOS 9.1 beta, I 
goofed up something during the process.  For, when I tried to 
restore from iTunes, only my default apps were showing up, even 
though my device settings appeared to be restored.  Then, when I 
tried to restore from an iCloud backup, I was told there were no 
backups of my device, even though I had backed up to iCloud just 
a few days before.  Although, to be fair, I had checked iCloud 
earlier before I started this process and was told there were no 
backups, and in fact, the several backups I had then tried to 
perform had failed, something I just attributed to using the 
beta.  I had, though,  just done an encrypted iTunes backup 
manually.


Thus, after several attempts to restore my apps from the iTunes 
backup not working, I finally just restored once again from that 
iTunes backup that preserved my settings, and then I manually 
went in and put all my apps back on the phone.  I first started 
adding them through iTunes, but found that more time consuming 
than I liked, so used the app store on my phone to put the rest 
of them back.  Then, I was fully prepared to either put all my 
app data on the phone manually, or just live without it, 
depending on the app.  So, you can imagine just how pleased I was 
to go into all my apps and find all my data there and up to date.  
For examples, my two checkbook programs had my account 
transactions even from earlier that day, Ariadne GPS showed all 
my favorites and Weather Radio still showed my selected cities.  
I figured I had overwritten the iTunes backup with all my 
attempts to fix things, and I had lost my prior iCloud backup 
somehow when working with the beta.


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Re: iCloud backup?

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

I had the same problem and think mine may have started before the upgrade as 
my iCloud backup kept disappearing from availability, or showing at all.


I could only think that I'd reset my WiFi connections but hadn't got round 
to re-writing my original phone name back into the About section.  This 
brought about some interesting times ...  I've now put the name back, 
hopefully exactly as it was before, and note that a backup too iCloud took 
place this morning.


If anyone can confirm I've done the right thing and explain the consequences 
of not doing so, this would be useful information.


Thanks.

I don't know if this sorts your problem, but perhaps it might.  I hope, 
anyway, that you find a solution.


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From: "Harry Bell" <ubupanora...@icloud.com>

To: "Abridged Recipients" <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 8:17 PM
Subject: iCloud backup?


Bizarre! Just now I noticed that the amount of iCloud storage i have used 
had suddenly dropped massively. I checked on my iPhone 5s and on my iPad Air 
and in settings, even though iCloud backup is turned on, each device claimed 
it had not been backed up for months - but I know this is untrue. My partner 
checked her iPhone 6 Plus and her iPad Air and she had exactly the same 
issue - her iPad even claimed it had never been backed up - which we both 
know is untrue. Anyone else noticing this? Could it be caused by Apple 
increasing our iCloud storage quota to 50GB and in the process wiping out 
existing backups? Or iOS 9?

Thanks
Harry



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iCloud backup?

[Harry Bell]

Bizarre! Just now I noticed that the amount of iCloud storage i have used had 
suddenly dropped massively. I checked on my iPhone 5s and on my iPad Air and in 
settings, even though iCloud backup is turned on, each device claimed it had 
not been backed up for months - but I know this is untrue. My partner checked 
her iPhone 6 Plus and her iPad Air and she had exactly the same issue - her 
iPad even claimed it had never been backed up - which we both know is untrue. 
Anyone else noticing this? Could it be caused by Apple increasing our iCloud 
storage quota to 50GB and in the process wiping out existing backups? Or iOS 9?
Thanks
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RE: iCloud backup

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Apps are not actually backed up when you do an iTunes backup and neither is 
music. Those are synced and the information as to which apps you have on your 
phone and where they are in terms of homescreen position or location in folders 
and so on is part of the backup. If you have to do a restore and you have 
synced with iTunes and done a backup, then the apps are synced back to your 
phone from iTunes. If you back up to iCloud the same is true except that 
instead of your apps syncing from iTunes they are redownloaded from the app 
store.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jesus Garcia
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 3:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iCloud backup

 

It does not back up apps, it will back up your data such as contacts. For a 
true backup use iTunes and backup the phone that way. That will backup all your 
apps and data.

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sweeney
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: iCloud backup

 

Hi,

Does the iCloud backup backup the entire phone including all of its apps and 
data or does it just back up the OS and basic data like contacts… the checked 
items in iCloud in settings?

Thx –Steve

 

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RE: iCloud backup

[Jesus Garcia]

It does not back up apps, it will back up your data such as contacts. For a 
true backup use iTunes and backup the phone that way. That will backup all your 
apps and data.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Steve Sweeney
Sent: September 18, 2015 17:35
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iCloud backup

 

Hi,

Does the iCloud backup backup the entire phone including all of its apps and 
data or does it just back up the OS and basic data like contacts… the checked 
items in iCloud in settings?

Thx –Steve

 

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iCloud backup

[Steve Sweeney]

Hi,

Does the iCloud backup backup the entire phone including all of its apps and
data or does it just back up the OS and basic data like contacts. the
checked items in iCloud in settings?

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Re: iCloud backup?

[Wayne Merritt]

I noticed this as well on my iPhone 6 the night that I updated. I
wonder if it showed that message because for as long as the
phone/device has had iOS 9, it has not been backed up. That's my
working theory but I don't exactly know why it reports that. I just
looked in my iCloud settings, and even though my iPhone probably
backed up last night, it said "unknown" under last backup. Weird.

Wayne

On 9/18/15, Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com> wrote:
> Bizarre! Just now I noticed that the amount of iCloud storage i have used
> had suddenly dropped massively. I checked on my iPhone 5s and on my iPad Air
> and in settings, even though iCloud backup is turned on, each device claimed
> it had not been backed up for months - but I know this is untrue. My partner
> checked her iPhone 6 Plus and her iPad Air and she had exactly the same
> issue - her iPad even claimed it had never been backed up - which we both
> know is untrue. Anyone else noticing this? Could it be caused by Apple
> increasing our iCloud storage quota to 50GB and in the process wiping out
> existing backups? Or iOS 9?
> Thanks
> Harry
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Re: a definite issue with creating an iCloud backup

[Paul Ferrara]

It turns out things my wife deleted went into a deleted items folder which 
we did not realize existed; we have fixed the problem.


Thanks all.

Paul

-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 9:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a definite issue with creating an iCloud backup

Do you also use iTunes for computer backups?
Or, at least do you have iTunes?
If so, check on the phone under usage in settings and see how much room it 
says is left, then connect the phone to iTunes on a computer, and select the 
iphone button then see what iTunes says is available.
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difference, you may need to backup the phone with iTunes on the computer, 
and I would recommend an encrypted backup so you get all your passwords etc.

Then select restore in iTunes.
This will erase the phone, reinstall the firmware, then you can restore from 
that computer backup.

Then see if the iCloud will now work.
Just a thought based on a recent experience I had when my 64 GB phone said I 
had 4 GB free, but itunes said I had 8 GB free.

After doing the above steps, I have 11 GB free.
The accessibility advisor I spoke with said that if I had canceled a backup 
in progress, I could have ended upwith some corrupt files that were wasting 
memory.

Apparently, she was correct.
HTH,
Richard





On Jul 18, 2015, at 5:42 PM, Paul Ferrara paul.ferr...@twc.com wrote:

It says she has much more stuff than 5 gigs, but this does not make sense; 
I have lots more stuff on my phone and still a gig of free storage; 
something is still not right.


I do see that several backups are there and not one; is that normal; I 
think I only show one backup.


Please advise.

Paul

-Original Message- From: Shaf
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 4:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a definite issue with creating an iCloud backup

Try settingsiCloudstorage and see how much storage she has in her
iCloud account, if a lot clear out the junk and try again.


On 7/18/2015 9:10 PM, Paul Ferrara wrote:
All, my wife’s phone, whenever she pluggs it in, tells her that there is
a problem creating a backup to iCloud; apparently she has 4 or 5 gigs of
stuff beyond the 5-gig limit according to iCloud. This seems rather
unlikely given the fact that she has a small amount of photos and videos
and little or no music.
We had to reset all settings recently when we had an issue with the Alex
voice; one night the voice switched to the high quality female voice,
and it would not switch back to Alex even though the sound effect
sounded so the Apple representative said she needed to reset all 
settings.

Since then we have had to fix things here and there; there seems to be
no way she has that much stuff on her phone—I have more stuff and do not
have this issue.

How can I discover what the cause is so I can remedy it?
Is there something else I could reset, turn on or off, etc.?

Thank you.

Paul Ferrara

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Re: a definite issue with creating an iCloud backup

[Shaf]

Try settingsiCloudstorage and see how much storage she has in her
iCloud account, if a lot clear out the junk and try again.

On 7/18/2015 9:10 PM, Paul Ferrara wrote:
 All, my wife’s phone, whenever she pluggs it in, tells her that there is
 a problem creating a backup to iCloud; apparently she has 4 or 5 gigs of
 stuff beyond the 5-gig limit according to iCloud. This seems rather
 unlikely given the fact that she has a small amount of photos and videos
 and little or no music.
 We had to reset all settings recently when we had an issue with the Alex
 voice; one night the voice switched to the high quality female voice,
 and it would not switch back to Alex even though the sound effect
 sounded so the Apple representative said she needed to reset all settings.
 Since then we have had to fix things here and there; there seems to be
 no way she has that much stuff on her phone—I have more stuff and do not
 have this issue.
  
 How can I discover what the cause is so I can remedy it?
 Is there something else I could reset, turn on or off, etc.?
  
 Thank you.
  
 Paul Ferrara
 
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a definite issue with creating an iCloud backup

[Paul Ferrara]

All, my wife’s phone, whenever she pluggs it in, tells her that there is a 
problem creating a backup to iCloud; apparently she has 4 or 5 gigs of stuff 
beyond the 5-gig limit according to iCloud. This seems rather unlikely given 
the fact that she has a small amount of photos and videos and little or no 
music.
We had to reset all settings recently when we had an issue with the Alex voice; 
one night the voice switched to the high quality female voice, and it would not 
switch back to Alex even though the sound effect sounded so the Apple 
representative said she needed to reset all settings.
Since then we have had to fix things here and there; there seems to be no way 
she has that much stuff on her phone—I have more stuff and do not have this 
issue.

How can I discover what the cause is so I can remedy it?
Is there something else I could reset, turn on or off, etc.?

Thank you.

Paul Ferrara

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Re: a definite issue with creating an iCloud backup

[Paul Ferrara]

It says she has much more stuff than 5 gigs, but this does not make sense; I 
have lots more stuff on my phone and still a gig of free storage; something 
is still not right.


I do see that several backups are there and not one; is that normal; I think 
I only show one backup.


Please advise.

Paul

-Original Message- 
From: Shaf

Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 4:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a definite issue with creating an iCloud backup

Try settingsiCloudstorage and see how much storage she has in her
iCloud account, if a lot clear out the junk and try again.

On 7/18/2015 9:10 PM, Paul Ferrara wrote:

All, my wife’s phone, whenever she pluggs it in, tells her that there is
a problem creating a backup to iCloud; apparently she has 4 or 5 gigs of
stuff beyond the 5-gig limit according to iCloud. This seems rather
unlikely given the fact that she has a small amount of photos and videos
and little or no music.
We had to reset all settings recently when we had an issue with the Alex
voice; one night the voice switched to the high quality female voice,
and it would not switch back to Alex even though the sound effect
sounded so the Apple representative said she needed to reset all settings.
Since then we have had to fix things here and there; there seems to be
no way she has that much stuff on her phone—I have more stuff and do not
have this issue.

How can I discover what the cause is so I can remedy it?
Is there something else I could reset, turn on or off, etc.?

Thank you.

Paul Ferrara

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Re: a definite issue with creating an iCloud backup

[Richard Turner]

Do you also use iTunes for computer backups?
Or, at least do you have iTunes?
If so, check on the phone under usage in settings and see how much room it says 
is left, then connect the phone to iTunes on a computer, and select the iphone 
button then see what iTunes says is available.
If they are more than 1 or 1.5 GB different, maybe allow up to 2 GB of 
difference, you may need to backup the phone with iTunes on the computer, and I 
would recommend an encrypted backup so you get all your passwords etc.
Then select restore in iTunes.
This will erase the phone, reinstall the firmware, then you can restore from 
that computer backup.
Then see if the iCloud will now work.
Just a thought based on a recent experience I had when my 64 GB phone said I 
had 4 GB free, but itunes said I had 8 GB free.
After doing the above steps, I have 11 GB free.
The accessibility advisor I spoke with said that if I had canceled a backup in 
progress, I could have ended upwith some corrupt files that were wasting memory.
Apparently, she was correct.
HTH,
Richard




 On Jul 18, 2015, at 5:42 PM, Paul Ferrara paul.ferr...@twc.com wrote:
 
 It says she has much more stuff than 5 gigs, but this does not make sense; I 
 have lots more stuff on my phone and still a gig of free storage; something 
 is still not right.
 
 I do see that several backups are there and not one; is that normal; I think 
 I only show one backup.
 
 Please advise.
 
 Paul
 
 -Original Message- From: Shaf
 Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 4:11 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: a definite issue with creating an iCloud backup
 
 Try settingsiCloudstorage and see how much storage she has in her
 iCloud account, if a lot clear out the junk and try again.
 
 On 7/18/2015 9:10 PM, Paul Ferrara wrote:
 All, my wife’s phone, whenever she pluggs it in, tells her that there is
 a problem creating a backup to iCloud; apparently she has 4 or 5 gigs of
 stuff beyond the 5-gig limit according to iCloud. This seems rather
 unlikely given the fact that she has a small amount of photos and videos
 and little or no music.
 We had to reset all settings recently when we had an issue with the Alex
 voice; one night the voice switched to the high quality female voice,
 and it would not switch back to Alex even though the sound effect
 sounded so the Apple representative said she needed to reset all settings.
 Since then we have had to fix things here and there; there seems to be
 no way she has that much stuff on her phone—I have more stuff and do not
 have this issue.
 
 How can I discover what the cause is so I can remedy it?
 Is there something else I could reset, turn on or off, etc.?
 
 Thank you.
 
 Paul Ferrara
 
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Re: iCloud backup problems

[Agent086b]

Hi,
I have 3gb available. I have signed out of iCloud and back in and notice still 
no backup.
Any other ideas please?
Thanks.
Max.

 On 28 Feb 2015, at 10:01 am, Feliciano Godoy theblindman...@hotmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 You only have 5 GB of free iCloud storage. Are you trying to back up more 
 than that? Under the iCloud settings, make sure to select only the 
 information that you want to back up to iCloud.pictures and videos that are 
 in your message application also try to back up to iCloud, so if you do not 
 want to back up those pictures and videos in the message conversations, be 
 sure to delete them or delete the message conversation.
 
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 mailto:agent0...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 is anybody having problems backing up to iCloud. My last backup was on 14 
 Feb. I have been trying manual backups but I only get to about 50% and that 
 has taken over an hour today to get that far. My phone is an iPhone6 16gb. I 
 have about 7gb free on the phone so there is not much to backup.
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