[FairfieldLife] Enlightenment as moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sinhlnx sinhlnx@ wrote: ---Consider an apartment as a type of cage. Could a person only think the apartment is real, but really be living inside Mae West's head?

[FairfieldLife] Male FFL'ers and CC?

2007-07-25 Thread cardemaister
Adam Sandler apparently (not-alltogether-jokingly?) missing his praeputium on Conan inspired this question: What percentage of (male) FFL'ers, in your estimate, has lost a sensitive part (IMO, almost as sensitive as lips) of there lingam? :/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment as moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sinhlnx sinhlnx@ wrote: ---Consider an apartment as a type of cage. Could a person only think the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip I don't view the ego in the way you seem to be using it

[FairfieldLife] Challenging the primary assumption

2007-07-25 Thread TurquoiseB
So here's a question for the group. One of the most fundamental assumptions within the TMO, and in many paths that see enlightenment as the end product of their spiritual sadhana, is that *in* the state of enlightenment one's perceptions are accurate, a true reflection of reality. The reasons

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Me: I have been enjoying lurking I have been thinking something about how you write that I would like to run by you Rory. I think

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread t3rinity
Thanks Curtis for your quick response, and especially for not taking offense in any way. That really speaks for you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for taking the time to respond in detail. I think you have brought out some very good

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor matrixmonitor@ wrote: ---the people you mention - living in cages. They should practice TM regularly and buy all the CD's DVD's relating to Ramana

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenging the primary assumption

2007-07-25 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This assumption forms the entire *basis* of guru yoga. You should do what the guru says because he's *right*; his perceptions are accurate, free from distortion, unclouded by the things that cloud our perceptions. The

[FairfieldLife] Three more and I'll begin impeachment

2007-07-25 Thread uns_tressor
House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers has said that if three more Congress Members get behind impeachment he will start the impeachment proceedings. http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp? articleID=32859 Uns.

[FairfieldLife] Three more and I'll start impeachment

2007-07-25 Thread uns_tressor
House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers has said that if three more Congress Members get behind impeachment he will start the impeachment proceedings. http://tinyurl.com/2294ds Uns.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenging the primary assumption

2007-07-25 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So let's open the question up to the group. This *is* a really interesting group, full of strong spiritual seekers who have spent the better part of their lives pursuing enlightenment. So whaddyathink? When you realize

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodm

2007-07-25 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
New morning et al posts snipped: When the heart is full, one sees love in everything. A sweet radiant love -- emanating from everything. When one is Full of It, one sees That everywhere. In that sense, I think it is still a projection, a line, of a distinct, but out there not so significant

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodm

2007-07-25 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Barry writes snipped: You'll realize that there was never anything you could DO to escape from jail, because you were never in it in the first place. There IS no doing when it comes to escaping from the imaginary prison of self. I hope for your sake that this happens soon. I know that it'll

Re: [FairfieldLife] Jesus Christ speaks of the living waters..bliss conscious...

2007-07-25 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 7/24/07 4:37:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jesus (addressing the Samarian woman at the well) answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again, ...but, whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenging the primary assumption

2007-07-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So here's a question for the group. One of the most fundamental assumptions within the TMO, and in many paths that see enlightenment as the end product of their spiritual sadhana, is that *in* the state of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sinhlnx sinhlnx@ wrote: ---Consider an apartment as a type of cage. Could a person only think the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment as moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sinhlnx sinhlnx@ wrote: ---Consider an apartment as a type of cage. Could a person only think the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sinhlnx sinhlnx@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor matrixmonitor@ wrote: ---the people you mention - living in cages. They should

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment as moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The bottom line from my point of view is that there is simply No Way to tell whether someone is bullshitting you (and often themselves) about their supposed enlight- enment or not. So you believe whatever you want, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenging the primary assumption

2007-07-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: So here's a question for the group. One of the most fundamental assumptions within the TMO, and in many paths that see enlightenment as the end

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread Vaj
On Jul 24, 2007, at 10:39 PM, new.morning wrote: This is a common theme in neo-advaitin realizers, the inability to present a correct View (drsti) regarding the two truths (satyadvaya). Being THE correct view, I am sure all realized ones agree on it. :-) If only.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just one short comment to this: For me it is a wonderful refreshment to FFL, and for me personally, that you and Jim are saying what you do. Since the two of you started saying what you say this place has made a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus Christ speaks of the living waters..bliss conscious...

2007-07-25 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/24/07 4:37:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jesus (addressing the Samarian woman at the well) answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment as moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: The bottom line from my point of view is that there is simply No Way to tell whether someone is bullshitting you (and often themselves) about their

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An yet, someone also said (Saint Byron perhaps) that if you can't imagine the opposite of something -- as possibly being true, then you are stuck in in that boundary. The point of my kidding has been, Can you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Curtis for your quick response, and especially for not taking offense in any way. That really speaks for you. It was easy not to be offended since your post had some interesting points for me to think about. It

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodm

2007-07-25 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
New Morning et al write snipped: Is it true? Can you absolutely know that it's true? How do you react when you think that thought? Who would you be without the thought? Can you turn it around? (Each turnaround is an opportunity to experience the opposite of your original statement and see

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
Rory: As I said when I first met you here, I am completely willing to be unenlightened with you in your world, if you are willing to be enlightened with me in mine -- will that do? Can we be both ordinary and special simultaneously together? I will if you will. Actually, I will even if you won't

[FairfieldLife] Peg Leg Sam - The Tat Wala Baba of blues harmonica players!

2007-07-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
One of the most amazing guys I have come across lately is this hobo harmonica player named Peg Leg Sam. He represents one of the most irrepressible human spirits I have seen. Whatever life throws at him, he just reframes it and moves on. When he lost his leg hopping a freight train, he strapped

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment as moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: The bottom line from my point of view is that there is simply No Way to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: An yet, someone also said (Saint Byron perhaps) that if you can't imagine the opposite of something -- as possibly being true, then you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: An yet, someone also said (Saint Byron perhaps) that if you can't

[FairfieldLife] the mantra

2007-07-25 Thread new7892001
Hi, Just wondering, how much does a mantra cost these days? When I got my first one (the second one from Maharishi himself, in 1971) I could manage financially. But now I heard that it costs around 2.500 dollars, (though there is discount for families). If so, why so expensive? Is it only

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're enlightened, and you refuse to even *think* that you might not be. Did I get that right, Jim? You are missing what I and many others have already said again and again here. Enlightenment is not experienced on the

Re: [FairfieldLife] the mantra

2007-07-25 Thread Peter
Dude or dudette, Welcome and are you serious or are you a troll? --- new7892001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just wondering, how much does a mantra cost these days? When I got my first one (the second one from Maharishi himself, in 1971) I could manage financially. But now I heard

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread Marek Reavis
Quick comment at the bottom: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rory: As I said when I first met you here, I am completely willing to be unenlightened with you in your world, if you are willing to be enlightened with me in mine -- will that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread qntmpkt
---Thanks, true, but why are you talking about it? In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: You're enlightened, and you refuse to even *think* that you might not be. Did I get that right,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: You're enlightened, and you refuse to even *think* that you might not be.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread jim_flanegin
Good question— Are you not interested? Seriously, there are many seekers on the path, like the poster who asked me if I think I am or am not enlightened, who want to believe that we can achieve an enlightened state permanently, theoretically, maybe, possibly, almost, according to these

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: You're enlightened, and you refuse to even *think* that you might not be. Did I get that right, Jim? You are missing what I and many others have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: You're enlightened, and you refuse to even *think* that you might not be.

[FairfieldLife] 'New York DC top Cocaine use list'

2007-07-25 Thread Robert Gimbel
DC: 7 tons of cocaine up the nose down the drain Recently a German research outfit tested wastewater in more than a dozen worldwide cities for metabolites of cocaine. The idea was to infer per-capita cocaine use

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus Christ speaks of the living waters..bliss consc...

2007-07-25 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 7/25/07 8:35:21 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jesus (addressing the Samarian woman at the well) answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again, ...but, whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him

[FairfieldLife] Mark Landau re: Conny

2007-07-25 Thread Rick Archer
From Mark Landau: It has come to my attention that a message I intended as personal communication regarding Conny Larsson made its way into Fairfield Life and other sites on the Internet. These words were sincere but incorrect. I would like to try to rectify that. My words were: “In my

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was in a rush before; want to add a couple things: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip *Without a doubt*, these people's enlightenment was self-evident to them. There was no

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: You're

Re: [FairfieldLife] Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights

2007-07-25 Thread Peter
When you behave like an arrogant, idiot asshole there are consequences, yes? --- Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights In Modern Era, Only Nixon and Truman Scored Worse, Just Barely By Peter Baker Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, July 25, 2007;

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip One of the paradoxes of the TM system is that anyone claiming to have reached the goal was always viewed with great suspicion when I was involved. I can imagine the rash of S-- you would have gotten for

[FairfieldLife] Re: My experience with the awakened Kundalini

2007-07-25 Thread Ron
Hello, I am typing in a dark room in Germany. I know the keyboard but will keet it short because I cant type as fast as Rick. What is interesting is what came about in my writting the posts as I was reporting my experiences, and the conclusion that ended was 1. Who am I 2. How sure are you

[FairfieldLife] Siddhanandas first post since Realization

2007-07-25 Thread Ron
Namaste and Om Dear Swamiji and Group, I have been fully absorbed and relishing the company of our beloved Sat Guru and have not had a free moment to sit down and write of what has taken place in the past few days. It is very difficult to relate and speak about the transformation that took

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment as moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jul 25, 2007, at 4:26 PM, Peter wrote: I officially declare that Jim is enlightened and is the envy of the entire host of celestial gods. I will declare anyone else to be enlightened too if they like. Also Risk Archer is enlightened because he's my initiator. Micheal Dean Goodman is also

[FairfieldLife] 'Man stops for cigs during police chase'

2007-07-25 Thread Robert Gimbel
Jul 25, 2007 11:08 am US/Mountain Fugitive Stops For Cigarettes During Police Chase Video: Fugitive makes cigarette pit stopPHOENIX - A man involved in a police chase on Tuesday surprised authorities when he stopped at a convenience store to buy cigarettes -- before resuming

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: You're enlightened, and you refuse to even *think* that you might not be. Did I get that right, Jim? You are missing what I and many others have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that what new.morning was getting at is whether you or anyone who considers themselves enlightened are willing to do the work on your assumption that you're enlightened.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Was in a rush before; want to add a couple things: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip *Without a doubt*,

[FairfieldLife] WTO Announces Formalized Slavery Model for Africa

2007-07-25 Thread do.rflex
WTO Announces Formalized Slavery Model for Africa US Trade Representative to Africa, Governor of Nigeria Central Bank weigh in at Wharton WTO NEWS: 2006 PRESS RELEASES WTO News Archives, November 13, 2006 http://www.gatt.org/wharton.html Philadelphia - At a Wharton Business School

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: I don't know where to start with your plethora of rhetorical questions. They are interesting questions, IMO. But I like to play with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodm

2007-07-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TomT: OK New the work is what you do to you not other. Ok. Good point I guess. I am used to hearing Byron (audio MP3 version) do it to others so it seemed natural. A I recall, you have asked others

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Was in a rush before; want to add a couple things: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: You're enlightened, and you refuse to even *think* that you might not be.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread yifuxero
---to a certain extent, your're right, Vaj; except that there's an infinite variation in the possible Siddhis, and then one would have to judge which of them is a criterion: certainly, being able to communicate with lobsters would be on top of the list, for sure! At the very least, Siddhis

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: You're enlightened, and you refuse to even *think* that you might not be.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Foxnews Reports: Sen.Specter(R-PA)Switches to Dem.'

2007-07-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Foxnews mistakenly reported today; In a subliminal message That Sen. Arlen Spector, specter.senate.gov/ Had switched parties; As he was speaking against Alberto Gonzales... Scarey? There was nothing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: that sort. I do know that when you are dreaming, its hard to accept that you are dreaming -- but assume you are awake. Though sometimes in the

[FairfieldLife] 'Foxnews Reports: Sen.Specter(R-PA)Switches to Dem.'

2007-07-25 Thread Robert Gimbel
Foxnews mistakenly reported today; In a subliminal message That Sen. Arlen Spector, specter.senate.gov/ Had switched parties; As he was speaking against Alberto Gonzales... Scarey? - Choose the right car based on your needs. Check

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good question— Are you not interested? Seriously, there are many seekers on the path, like the poster who asked me if I think I am or am not enlightened, I assume you man me. Or perhaps Barry. Perhaps both of us

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: You're

[FairfieldLife] 'An Islamic Solution?'

2007-07-25 Thread Robert Gimbel
Acts of Faith: The Story of an American Muslim, the Struggle for the Soul of a Generation by Eboo Patel About This Book Synopses Reviews Comment on this title and you could win free

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Good question— Are you not interested? Seriously, there are many seekers on the path, like the poster who asked me if I think I am or am

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread Vaj
On Jul 25, 2007, at 9:09 PM, new.morning wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 25, 2007, at 10:17 AM, new.morning wrote: Can you absolutely know that it's true? I hate to bring up what seems obvious to me, but there are objective ways to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: You're enlightened, and you refuse to even *think* that you might not be.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment as moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread Peter
I officially declare that Jim is enlightened and is the envy of the entire host of celestial gods. I will declare anyone else to be enlightened too if they like. Also Risk Archer is enlightened because he's my initiator. Micheal Dean Goodman is also enlightened because I drum with him and went to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: Can you imagine that you are only imagining that you are enlightened if

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: He can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that what new.morning was getting at is whether you or anyone who considers themselves enlightened are

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mathatbrahman mathatbrahman@ wrote: ---Nope I disagree. The questions below are legitimate, of interest, and potentially of value; but obviously not to Neo-Advaitins who

[FairfieldLife] Re: Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights

2007-07-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you behave like an arrogant, idiot asshole there are consequences, yes? Is that a judgement? Is there possibly any projection in that judgement? (Thats a non-judgemental and non-leading question. We like you either way.)

[FairfieldLife] 'Fox news clip'

2007-07-25 Thread Robert Gimbel
Angle's report on Gonzales hearing falsely identified Specter as a Democrat On the July 24 edition of Fox News' Special Report with Brit Hume, on-screen text identified Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA) as a Democrat during a report from chief Washington correspondent Jim Angle about Attorney

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mathatbrahman mathatbrahman@ wrote: ---Nope I disagree. The questions below are legitimate, of

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Foxnews Reports: Sen.Specter(R-PA)Switches to Dem.'

2007-07-25 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: Foxnews mistakenly reported today; In a subliminal message That Sen. Arlen Spector, specter.senate.gov/ Had switched parties;

[FairfieldLife] Spiritual Awakening in Israel

2007-07-25 Thread mathatbrahman
...featured on CNN this morning, 7-25, numerous Israelis flocking to India in search of Spiritual Awakenings. The story featured the often-seen still photo of the Beatles with MMY - as if to imply that a similar type of Renaissance is occurring. Of course, there are major differences

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 25, 2007, at 5:20 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: I'm just sayin' that there is a big red flag raised for me when someone believes one of their stories so completely And Jim was just sayin' that the nature of

[FairfieldLife] Enlightened One comments on Siddhanandas post

2007-07-25 Thread Ron
Namaste, Swami Siddananda. Wow. What a beautiful report. The freshness of it is so... refreshing. Had forgotten the incredible fear of what the ego tries to convince will be death and extinction. That was the last hurdle - the one that required absolute surrender,even at the risk of death...

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Foxnews Reports: Sen.Specter(R-PA)Switches to Dem.'

2007-07-25 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: Foxnews mistakenly reported today; In a subliminal message That Sen. Arlen Spector, specter.senate.gov/ Had switched parties; As

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: I don't know where to start with your plethora of rhetorical

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: You're enlightened, and you refuse to even *think* that you might not be. Did I get that right, Jim? You are missing what I and many others have

RE: [FairfieldLife] When the Ricks Away....

2007-07-25 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bhairitu Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 10:08 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] When the Ricks Away Looks like a whole bunch of folks here blew there wad and next weeks on Byron Katie.

[FairfieldLife] Question for Vaj

2007-07-25 Thread cardemaister
Quite often during the first minutes of my meditation session I start burping amazingly forcefully, like farting big fat farts but, from the wrong end. What could that be a sign of? Usually I perform less than 10 burps per session. This morning it started again at the end of my session when I did

[FairfieldLife] Re: Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights

2007-07-25 Thread shempmcgurk
The disfavor for Bush registered by polls is surpassed only by the disfavor for the majority-controlled Congress whose poll numbers are even worse than Bush's... Funny, that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 25, 2007, at 10:17 AM, new.morning wrote: Can you absolutely know that it's true? I hate to bring up what seems obvious to me, but there are objective ways to test states of enlightenment which have been used

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quick comment at the bottom: ** Curtis, your last comment (last sentence, immediately above) re the friendly connection represents for me, too, the best of FFL. Whenever people here are willing to presume the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread authfriend
Was in a rush before; want to add a couple things: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip *Without a doubt*, these people's enlightenment was self-evident to them. There was no question in their minds that it existed. But did it? I have no idea. Do

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread mathatbrahman
---Nope I disagree. The questions below are legitimate, of interest, and potentially of value; but obviously not to Neo-Advaitins who believe that nothing exists anyway. As for Buddhists, Sakyamuni Buddha stated that there's not enough time to investigate natural laws and also do one's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: He can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that what new.morning was getting

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Good question— Are you not interested? Seriously, there are many seekers on the path, like the poster who asked me if I think I am or am

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