yeah I like this game to.
I may eventually buy the tank and a class 5 engine.
Right now I have porned off most of my stuff this is because I have run out of
cash.
I tried destroying a rival company's ship but got no real advantage.
I have 43 grand, but can't afford anything good that I already
well the video game jafar is working on may be that as its a hybrid of audio
and video.
its going to take a while and it may actually be usefull.
However standard hybrids are not comman.
the only ones we have are teraformas, aq and blind eye.
But themselves they are not fully hybrids or at least
well its the only option but a single person doing this is just foolish.
Now a large group may actually have a better chance.
but who has the cash to really go for it.
At 06:21 a.m. 8/11/2009, you wrote:
That's exactly my point. This might be our only option but I have a very
strong feeling that
well when I started on the game and got my varification sorted he said he was
unsure how a blind person would play.
It is clear that him and others are listening.
Because on the first day I posted to him all the stuff I found inaccessible
which was a large bundle.
It was sorted in the next
sigh
its a shame I will be middle aged or so before that even starts, heck I may be
dead before anything happens, that really is just suckfull.
I have actually no idea what will happen if I really get a real job.
I have time to bother with email lists, podcasts, etc.
But I wander what would
hmmm well we should have the tech for it.
pc wise we are already using directx, xna, sdl dotnet mono c++ flash,
shockwave, projecter and various others.
So its possible in tech terms we are quite up with the play.
There is no access gap in that reguard.
However we only worry about the sounds and
well japan is one of the countries like carrier that actually has better tech
not sure about the us or uk but sertainly better than nz.
and yet they say they are lagging a bit.
Hmmm japan as one big corperation?
interesting thought, I get an image of japan being this mega office somewhere.
Wow!
I'm sorry but I don't think it is.
Like I said although the email didn't reach this list, Thomas is no longer
in a credible position to moderate posts regarding piracy ever again. If you
can't be good, be careful. Well he's caught himself out there well and truly
and if the powers that be decide
Well for either 35 or 40k, you can get 1 extractor. Go get one.
-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of shaun everiss
Sent: 08 November 2009 08:06
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Audyssey] My thoughts on core
Nobody's perfect dood. I'm sure you do things that other people would
consider to put you in a not credible position to make the statements
you made below. Stop being so selfrighteous
Darren Harris wrote:
I'm sorry but I don't think it is.
Like I said although the email didn't reach this
There's a difference. I'm not a moderator of a list or in any form of
position of power. That's the point. If you are in that position then you
have a degree of responsibility.
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Willem
Nobody really. That's why I don't see this going anywhere. And if the media
gets hold of it, well there's every possibility as I said, that it'll only
confirm in people's minds that we are in fact spoiled, demanding brats.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of
Me too. And i'll be thirty next year. Quite depressing sometimes. I have a
feeling that by the time accessibility is ever a standard feature in
mainstream games or that it's decided that it would be worthwhile to make a
sidemarket for them, I'll be too old and set in my ways, the same as the
How about we not fan the flames? There's really no point in continuing this
discussion any further. What's done is done regardless of how it happened or
the reasons behind it. And it's not even on topic.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza?
Vender: No
Hi
Are there any bugle sounds?
Marsha
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Hi,
In fact it is possible to write to them in Japanese and all of them will
understand your message: just go to www.translaate.google.com .
Write the message, translate it, copy it to clipboard and paste it into an
email. Google's translations are the best in the industry so far.
Josh
Hi Marsha,
Yes,16 of them.
Disc 1:
95. Bugle Call - Alarm 0:10
96. Bugle Call - Company Sergeant's 0:23
97. Bugle Call - Fall In 0:18
98. Bugle Call - Fanfare 0:08
99. Bugle Call - Fatigue 0:15
100. Bugle Call - Fire Alarm 0:15
Disc 2:
1. Bugle Call - Jazz 0:11
2. Bugle Call - Lights Out
well I can only say this, if i have still the life in me and the milage then I
may take it all up.
However thats easier said than done ofcause.
Right now I am home with my parents, at age 28.
I don't need to do most of the cooking or rather anything and I don't work.
whilst I may never fully go
I have 43k, I'll go get an extracter.
I can afford it, and it may be the best thing.
however I may buy some more ebks for hull as I am getting lowish.
In fact I have got loads for all armours well a lot so I can handle the prices,
I probably should get more for level1 armour repairs so I will
Hi,
To write japanese the website is www.translate.google.com
josh
send email to myself at jkenn...@gmail.com www.satogo.com Get klango at
www.klango.net it's free! Get NVDA www.nvda-project.org it's free! Grab Ubuntu
at www.ubuntu.com it's free! and www.twitter.com/jkenn337
Ok. So here's what you do.
Extractors.
Get a mineral or metal extractor. That's probably what's going to net you
the most cash. Then when you've done that place it on a planet. Now you're
going to need IP for this. You're going to need IP to survey the planet for
it's resources so you can
thanks.
this may come in handy.
At 05:34 a.m. 9/11/2009, you wrote:
Ok. So here's what you do.
Extractors.
Get a mineral or metal extractor. That's probably what's going to net you
the most cash. Then when you've done that place it on a planet. Now you're
going to need IP for this. You're
No problem. Now to try and stop this stupid AVG from marking all my emails
as spam it's annoying me
-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of shaun everiss
Sent: 08 November 2009 16:54
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [SPAM]
what if, let's say instead of copying and distributing that cassette, you
tell the person to turn on the radio at the exact same time you do and
record the exact same content? Or you could simply let the person borrow
that cassette for a few days, then give it back. they would've still
Here's something else for you all to consider: let's say you pirate a bunch
of movies, tv shows etc, but you never intend to buy them, no matter how
awesome they are. Would there even be any loss for that company when you
never intended to purchase the content in the first place? Let's now look
this is already confirmed on many people's minds at least according to their
believes anyway, so what difference will it make? We're already depicted in
a negative light due to the disability itself.
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From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net
To: Gamers
Your first example:
Yes, there would be a loss for the company even if you never intended to buy
them, because you're still accessing the content without ever paying for it.
Just because you never intended to buy the product doesn't mean you
shouldn't have.
Your second example:
If you've spent
So we have a responsibility not to make it worse.
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Yohandy
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 11:18 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Visually impaired gamer sues Sony
Well, this topic seems to be off the topic of games, but I'm lending my
comment here to it anyway. The companies put out movies, music, and books
for people to buy to make money for the company and the artist/author that
originally made the item. As an author myself; I would disagree that I
Which is exactly what I've been trying to say. And make it worse is exactly
what this lawsuit's going to do most likely.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza?
Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
- Original Message -
From: Ryan Strunk
Yes it's a minefield no arguments there. But the whole point is that piracy
on this list is not permitted yet a request was made, whether it was an
accident or not is of no importance, the point is, a direct request for
pirated content was sent to this list, by the very person that is meant to
be
is that responsibility to just sit there and let things go on as they are?
There needs to be change of some kind, and this lawsuit will at least make
companies aware we exist.
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From: Ryan Strunk ryan.str...@gmail.com
To: 'Gamers Discussion list'
Your statement:
If your friend gives you his copy, that's not illegal because the media
hasn't been duplicated. If, however, your friend makes a separate copy for
you, that is illegal.
If my friend gave me a copy, I still accessed that copy, enjoyed it free of
charge, and will most likely not
I'm sure Kevin and rawl took the necessary actions against Thomas, like
they would for anyone.
The policies won't change, so people can not take him seriously
all they want, but I'm sure it will still be enforced. And you will sure
take someone seriously when you are kicked off a list with
Hi Josh,
This may seem like a stupid question, but how do you make it work? I put in
translate to japanese and translate from english, and I wrote some stuff
into the edit box but it didn't change it at all.
Thanks for any help,
al
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From: Josh jkenn...@gmail.com
Lol. The funny thing is if thomas is the one to do it it only makes him look
all the worse for it. Sorry but it does.
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Willem
Sent: 08 November 2009 18:50
To: Gamers Discussion list
And it's not going to do any good if we keep chewing over it. Haven't we
already driven it into the ground?
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza?
Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
- Original Message -
From: Darren Harris
Hello,
Please note that the legal requirement is for a certain percentage of
people with disabilities, not for blind people specifically. That said,
the rehab agencies train specific work skills and then help the blind
person to find work which requires the skills.
David Chittenden, MS,
That is true. And I doubt fining game developers would do much good. They
might build accessibility but build the absolute minimum amount that they
could get away with just so they could say they were within the law. At
least in the US it might go that way.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across
Hello Everyone,
I remember a request for 3D Snake in the past; I was going to send it to the
list, but it was too big. So I'm uploading this and the original game to
SendSpace, and I will send that to the list once it's up.
Hayden
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 1:01 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Piracy was: Requesting Rogue Angel Series
And it's not going
Hi David,
Thanks so much for your informative e-mail. I'm glad there was someone
on here could answer not only my questions on this issue, but clears up
some things I may have said that were perhaps less true than the reality
of the situation.
Smile.
David Chittenden wrote:
Hello,
I
Hi all,
This is just a reminder that this topic was officially closed by Raul
and myself. Please, do not continue to post on this topic.
Thanks.
Hayden Presley wrote:
Indeed. Ponder the following Senerio:
A previously convicted murderer discuveries another murderer on the street.
Upon
Hi all,
This topic is also off topic. Raul asked you guys last Friday to start
getting back on topic. So please close this topic, and let's get back to
gaming.
Thanks.
Ryan Strunk wrote:
Charles,
It is only legal to copy an audio cassette, CD, etcetera if you make only
one copy, and only
Hi Listers,
At this time my status as a list moderator has not been officially
decided. However, my fellow moderator, Raul, hopes that I would stay on
as list moderator until Kevin says otherwise. So at this time I am still
one of the list's moderators, and you should treat me as one
Hi all,
Since many of you seam to forgot Raul's request to get back on topic I'm
officially closing the following topics immediately.
Piracy was Requesting Rogue Angel Series
Moderator Serious Warning
If anyone else posts on these topics after this message you will be
placed on moderated
Hi,
Here is how to use the www.translate.google.com websiite.
step 1. go to www.translate.google.com .
step 2. go to the edit box just before the two combo boxes and hit enter to
turn on forms mode make it so you can type things into that edit box.
step 3. type or paste your message. if you
Hi,
I'm writing to let you know about a special broadcast of my show, The
Canadian Connection, on The Global Voice Internet radio. Normally, this
show features music from Canada and around the world in various styles, but
on Saturday, November 14, at 1:00 UTC (that would be Friday, 8:00 PM
If you buy something from a company, and you give it to me, one copy bought,
one copy being used. No loss to the company. How is this piracy?
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From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday,
Hi!
My name is Sharon Hooley from Idaho. I've enjoyed playing some of the
accessible games. I'm especially hooked on Crazy Tennis! I like games that
require actions and being able to tell where things are, but now I have the
cochlear implant on one side, and a hearing aid on the other, so
Hi.
Sounds fun indeed.
Will there be a recording made of the broardcast, - sinse I'm obviously
in England, and the correspondance of eastern time to gmt isn't always
helpful.
while I admit, -- as people on list will have probably noted, I do
sometimes have a rather vampyric time
Hi Sharon.
Desent into madness is indeed fun, - but sadly I don't believe it was
ever finished for %100. thus, there are stil known bugs such as those you
identify yourself.
I've not heard of any fixes to the program unfortunately, which is a
shame (particularly about the saving
HI,
Hmmm...I've noticed those same problems. Unfortunately I cannot help you,
though it is a great game.
Hayden
-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Sharon Hooley
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 3:22 PM
To: gamers List
Hi Charles,
Well, keep in mind that was a ball park figure, a good guess on my part,
but I believe David Greenwood said at one time that Shades of Doom 1.0
had sold a little over 200 copies. If you do the math 200 games times
$35.00 each is $7,000.00 USD give or take a few for rounding. Then,
The save game feature in Descent in to Madness is permanently broken.
On 11/8/09, Sharon Hooley shool...@q.com wrote:
Hi!
My name is Sharon Hooley from Idaho. I've enjoyed playing some of the
accessible games. I'm especially hooked on Crazy Tennis! I like games that
require actions and
Hi Dark,
It is certainly true that an especially good game never completely dies
out, but it is also true that interests do change. When I was a kid the
arcade games like Packman, Centapede, Asteroids, etc were the rave.
Every kid I knew had Packman, Missile Command, Asteroids, and some of
Hi Dark,
Well, keep in mind here that most independent developers are in it more
for the pleasure of doing it than the money. Call it a hobby that brings
in a few extra dollars and cents, and the real value is creating game
worlds from scratch, and letting people play in those worlds. That's
While this makes sense Tom, I would however be interested to know what
Draconis' or 7-128's overheads are, sinse both, rather than being one
man bands, are full companies with a larger staff.
does the larger staff, with it's inclusion of actors sound designers
and musicians as well
Thanks Josh for helping me out. grin.
al
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From: Josh jkenn...@gmail.com
To: gamers list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 3:55 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] translation
Hi,
Here is how to use the www.translate.google.com websiite.
step 1. go to
Bizarre
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of James Dietz
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 4:00 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Introduction and Questions
The save game feature in Descent in to Madness
Hi,
If someone would eMail me off list about this, I'd appreciate it. I recently
earned a trophy called Quick Drop+ or something like that, but I have no
actual idea as to how I earned it; could someone enlighten me as to how one
gets that trophy?
Hayden
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True Tom, though I've heard a lot of hard line gamers like my brother
and some of my friends complain that now, games are becoming so large,
cinematic and industry driven, they are losing significant amounts of
playability in the process.
This even goes for my friends who are fps players
Hi Allan,
Unfortunately, that pbroaches the question of how you will make the
business work. Sure you could put millions into the company for start up
costs, but you still have to earn that money back with a healthy profit
to make it continue. Of course if the games are designed in such a way
Hello,
Here again are sample translations. I set the message encoding to unicode UTF8
so thiss time it should work propperly. when sending japanese or foreign emails
be sure to switch your encoding to unicode UTF8. and if stuff does not display
propperly in your web browser change its encoding
Hi David,
Absolutely correct. Our list is a minority of a minority and we usually
have around 300 members on average. All of us together would not be a
very convincing group of blind gamers to encourage mainstream game
developers of the value of accessibility. If a talking clock that sold
Hi Al,
It simply is not financially feasible for a company like Sony to do
that. It would likely cost them much more than it is worth to create a
line of games specifically for the visually impaired. There is a lot of
money involved in bringing a single product like that to market, and
True Tom, but even more successful independent companies have been
reasonable about access.
One great example of this is Niels bauer, for their full history, look
them up on Wikipedia, --- and you'll see they've been going for a lot
longer, and been far more successful (relatively
If you mean the quickdraw pluss trophy, you get it for having a high
accuracy I believe.
Beware the grue!
dark.
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From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 11:22 PM
Subject:
Hey guys, just getting back into gaming and picked up the king of fighters
99 for PS1. Any one can help me with getting to know the game?
I got the teams and chars memorized, but I can't seem to figure out how to
switch char in practice mode or in battle.
Also, a move list would be nice.
The
Hi Tom,
Thanks for that explanation. I was even thinking about paychecks and all
that other stuff, so I was really off target with that idea, grin.
Thanks again,
al
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This one would help people on the list, so I'm responding here.
Quick Draw + happens for beating Supreme Commander Ather quickly.
-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Hayden Presley
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 5:22 PM
I saw a perfect example of simplicity and addictive game play never
dying a few days ago actually. Played a gig at quite a swanky venue
here in London, and to our delight we discovered a big retro looking
arcade cab loaded with a game called backstage invaders. From what I
could tell it was a
I aggree yohandy.
asking does not get anyware, well hmmm we can only try as direct as we can may
take a bit to find the right info as front desk staff won't know you really
need to find key people and ask.
suing will probably work but please people in general can we actually sue as a
group and
Hi Dark,
Well, I don't know Draconis's or 7-128's financial overhead, but it
would be interesting to add to the debate if they would be willing to
share or release such information here. All I do know is that game's
specifically created for the blind generally don't do well, and the
income
That's interesting and brings a new perspective to the debate.
I didn't realize the cost of living in the us was quite that high currently.
In England, the governmental minimum wage is about £14000 a year, which
given current exchange rate is probably something like $21000.
A wage of
Is this game evolution? When space invaders first came out, it wouldn't
compare with a wee, or however it's spelled. (grin)
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, November 08,
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