[Gimp-user] printing

[ajtiM]

Hi! I am a FreeBSD user and GIMP user on KDE 4. I got HP business Inkjet 3000 
which works great in console and on KDE 4 (LibreOffice...) except GIMP. Looks 
like that Gutenprint doesn't support the printer. Is it possible to substitute 
driver from older version, please? 
Thanks in advance.

Mitja

http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa
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[Gimp-user] Printing photos

[gerard82]

>>>I'm a new user of GIMP 2.6.11 for OSX, and I can't figure out how to make 
>>>photo colors print correctly.  My printer is an Epson 2200, driver version 
>>>8.37.  When I print one of my old photos from Mac Preview, colors come out 
>>>the same as they did when I used this printer from Photoshop 6 on my old 
>>>Windows PC.  When I print the same image from GIMP on the Mac (using the 
>>>Print command, not Gutenprint, and selecting photo quality and specifying 
>>>the right paper, etc), the colors are too far off for a simple CY, MAG, Y 
>>>level adjustment to get back to what I expect.  Under image properties GIMP 
>>>says the color profile of the image is sRGB IEC61966-2.1, and the image 
>>>appears the same on my monitor in GIMP as it does in Preview.  But it 
>>>appears GIMP may be using a different color profile for printing than for 
>>>display.  is that possible, and if so, how can I change it?

>>Why don't you use gutenprint?
>>I have an Epson RX560.
>>Gimp + gutenprint give me very good prints.
>>Gerard.

>I tried Gutenprint once, but it seemed to ignore my instructions on what size 
>to print.  I'll try it again and see if I can sort out the sizing problem.  
>Thanks for the idea.

Sizes can be set with "custom".
I experimented with odd sizes and it worked quite well.
There are limits:It should be long enough for the paper transport to handle.
Another important factor is your Gimp calibration.
For instance when you set image size to 150x100 mm it should measure that on 
the screen at 100%! (Or in inches)
I use gutenprint-5.2.6.
Gerard.


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[Gimp-user] Printing photos

[dmclean]

>>I'm a new user of GIMP 2.6.11 for OSX, and I can't figure out how to make 
>>photo colors print correctly.  My printer is an Epson 2200, driver version 
>>8.37.  When I print one of my old photos from Mac Preview, colors come out 
>>the same as they did when I used this printer from Photoshop 6 on my old 
>>Windows PC.  When I print the same image from GIMP on the Mac (using the 
>>Print command, not Gutenprint, and selecting photo quality and specifying the 
>>right paper, etc), the colors are too far off for a simple CY, MAG, Y level 
>>adjustment to get back to what I expect.  Under image properties GIMP says 
>>the color profile of the image is sRGB IEC61966-2.1, and the image appears 
>>the same on my monitor in GIMP as it does in Preview.  But it appears GIMP 
>>may be using a different color profile for printing than for display.  is 
>>that possible, and if so, how can I change it?

>Why don't you use gutenprint?
>I have an Epson RX560.
>Gimp + gutenprint give me very good prints.
>Gerard.

I tried Gutenprint once, but it seemed to ignore my instructions on what size 
to print.  I'll try it again and see if I can sort out the sizing problem.  
Thanks for the idea.

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[Gimp-user] Printing photos

[gerard82]

>I'm a new user of GIMP 2.6.11 for OSX, and I can't figure out how to make 
>photo colors print correctly.  My printer is an Epson 2200, driver version 
>8.37.  When I print one of my old photos from Mac Preview, colors come out the 
>same as they did when I used this printer from Photoshop 6 on my old Windows 
>PC.  When I print the same image from GIMP on the Mac (using the Print 
>command, not Gutenprint, and selecting photo quality and specifying the right 
>paper, etc), the colors are too far off for a simple CY, MAG, Y level 
>adjustment to get back to what I expect.  Under image properties GIMP says the 
>color profile of the image is sRGB IEC61966-2.1, and the image appears the 
>same on my monitor in GIMP as it does in Preview.  But it appears GIMP may be 
>using a different color profile for printing than for display.  is that 
>possible, and if so, how can I change it?

Why don't you use gutenprint?
I have an Epson RX560.
Gimp + gutenprint give me very good prints.
Gerard.


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[Gimp-user] Printing photos

[dmclean]

I'm a new user of GIMP 2.6.11 for OSX, and I can't figure out how to make photo 
colors print correctly.  My printer is an Epson 2200, driver version 8.37.  
When I print one of my old photos from Mac Preview, colors come out the same as 
they did when I used this printer from Photoshop 6 on my old Windows PC.  When 
I print the same image from GIMP on the Mac (using the Print command, not 
Gutenprint, and selecting photo quality and specifying the right paper, etc), 
the colors are too far off for a simple CY, MAG, Y level adjustment to get back 
to what I expect.  Under image properties GIMP says the color profile of the 
image is sRGB IEC61966-2.1, and the image appears the same on my monitor in 
GIMP as it does in Preview.  But it appears GIMP may be using a different color 
profile for printing than for display.  is that possible, and if so, how can I 
change it?

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[Gimp-user] Printing Problem

[redforce]

>I just did as well!  :)

Got the new packages today by automatic update, I think the bug has been fixed 
(by patching).

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing Problem

[Tom Williams]

On 11/05/2010 03:11 PM, redforce wrote:
>> Indeed. Please file a bug-report at Ubuntu. We explicitly released a
>> fixed version (2.6.11) before the Ubuntu release. The Ubuntu maintainers
>> should do their users a favor and update to that release.
> Seems that this has been reported:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gimp/+bug/671229
>
> Maybe Chad can mark this bug as affecting him.
>

I just did as well!  :)

Peace...

Tom
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[Gimp-user] Printing Problem

[redforce]

>Indeed. Please file a bug-report at Ubuntu. We explicitly released a
>fixed version (2.6.11) before the Ubuntu release. The Ubuntu maintainers
>should do their users a favor and update to that release.

Seems that this has been reported:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gimp/+bug/671229

Maybe Chad can mark this bug as affecting him.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing Problem

[Sven Neumann]

On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 01:11 +0100, geoffrey wrote:
> I just installed gimp with Ubuntu 10.10. Simple problem. Any way I try
> to print, the printer produces a blank sheet of paper.  HPDeskJetPro
> prints any other program's output. It seems that the package on Ubuntu
> gets the 2,6.10
> with the cairo software that doesn't work. Have I answered my own question?

Indeed. Please file a bug-report at Ubuntu. We explicitly released a
fixed version (2.6.11) before the Ubuntu release. The Ubuntu maintainers
should do their users a favor and update to that release.


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing Problem

[Tom Williams]

On 10/31/2010 05:11 PM, geoffrey wrote:
> I just installed gimp with Ubuntu 10.10. Simple problem. Any way I try to 
> print, the printer produces a blank sheet of paper.  HPDeskJetPro prints any 
> other program's output. It seems that the package on Ubuntu gets the 2,6.10
> with the cairo software that doesn't work. Have I answered my own question?
>
> Geoffrey

Gimp 2.6.11 addresses this printing issue:

http://developer.gimp.org/NEWS-2.6

Peace...

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[Gimp-user] Printing Problem

[geoffrey]

I just installed gimp with Ubuntu 10.10. Simple problem. Any way I try to 
print, the printer produces a blank sheet of paper.  HPDeskJetPro prints any 
other program's output. It seems that the package on Ubuntu gets the 2,6.10
with the cairo software that doesn't work. Have I answered my own question?

Geoffrey









>>Chad,

>>Can you print _anything_ from Gimp?

>>If you can print a very tiny image, maybe it is a printer memory problem.

>>Sorry, I can't help further.  I don't have Vista and I am sitting here 
>>happily 
>>emailing from Ubuntu.  ;-)

>>I will have to get Vista soon (for certain software we will be required to 
>>use), 
>>but I will run that under Vmware on the Ubuntu (as I do with XP, W2K, Win95, 
>>and 
>>RedHat Linux, and Unixware!).

>>Jay

>Hi Jay,
>Thanks for the idea. I was trying to print a fairly large graphic file size. 
>Will try a small simple graphic and will also try saving as a .jpg instead of 
>Gimp's default format and see if that works for me. I'll let you know but it 
>may be a few days until I can get back to the forum to let you know.
>Thanks again.
>I love forums -- You usually get the best answers there.  :)
>Chad


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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing Problem

[Jay Smith]

On 10/15/2010 09:30 AM, John Culleton wrote:
> On Thursday 14 October 2010 18:09:18 ChadBJX wrote:
>>> Chad,
>>>
>>> Can you print _anything_ from Gimp?
>>>
>>> If you can print a very tiny image, maybe it is a printer memory
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> Sorry, I can't help further.  I don't have Vista and I am sitting
>>> here happily emailing from Ubuntu.  ;-)
>>>
>>> I will have to get Vista soon (for certain software we will be
>>> required to use), but I will run that under Vmware on the Ubuntu
>>> (as I do with XP, W2K, Win95, and RedHat Linux, and Unixware!).
>>>
>>> Jay
>>
>> Hi Jay,
>> Thanks for the idea. I was trying to print a fairly large graphic
>> file size. Will try a small simple graphic and will also try saving
>> as a .jpg instead of Gimp's default format and see if that works
>> for me. I'll let you know but it may be a few days until I can get
>> back to the forum to let you know. Thanks again.
>> I love forums -- You usually get the best answers there.  :)
>> Chad

John Culleton wrote:
>
> I don't try to use the print capabilities of Gimp, of Inkscape, of
> Krita, of Scribus or whatever. It is easier to save a file (PDF
> anyone?) and print that file out using e.g., Acrobat Reader.
>
> And now a question. Why are you "upgrading" to the effectively
> abandoned product Vista? Would not Windows 7 make more sense?

CHAD: .jpg is a _lossy_ image file format (even at the highest quality 
setting). 
It is probably not an issue if you are printing to a low-quality printer, but 
be 
aware that _every_ time you save a .jpg, the image quality is lessened.  If for 
some reason you must save/export to .jpg keep the original image and always do 
all editing in the original image.

I don't have any problems printing from Gimp, even to a cheap, low-memory 
ink-jet, but then I am on Ubuntu Linux.

JOHN:  IMHO, the idea of having go through yet another file format (PDF) and 
program (Acrobat) just to print is not an acceptable long-term solution.  I 
have 
had images that I needed to print to a cheap ink-jet printer (because that was 
the only printer available at the time due to service problems) and simply had 
to have a print right now.  Due to the printer's lack of calibration, I had to 
tweak a _copy_ of the image to get colors to come out as needed -- I had to 
print about 12 times to dial it in.  If I had to make a PDF each time, it would 
have taken much, much longer.

Regarding Vista vs Windows 7, etc., I did not write clearly.  I will have to 
install whatever version of Windoze the required software demands.  But it will 
be installed under Vmware Workstation and run under Vmware Player, allowing 
that 
single Windoze instance to be run from any physical workstation on the network.

Jay
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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing Problem

[John Culleton]

On Thursday 14 October 2010 18:09:18 ChadBJX wrote:
> >Chad,
> >
> >Can you print _anything_ from Gimp?
> >
> >If you can print a very tiny image, maybe it is a printer memory
> > problem.
> >
> >Sorry, I can't help further.  I don't have Vista and I am sitting
> > here happily emailing from Ubuntu.  ;-)
> >
> >I will have to get Vista soon (for certain software we will be
> > required to use), but I will run that under Vmware on the Ubuntu
> > (as I do with XP, W2K, Win95, and RedHat Linux, and Unixware!).
> >
> >Jay
>
> Hi Jay,
> Thanks for the idea. I was trying to print a fairly large graphic
> file size. Will try a small simple graphic and will also try saving
> as a .jpg instead of Gimp's default format and see if that works
> for me. I'll let you know but it may be a few days until I can get
> back to the forum to let you know. Thanks again.
> I love forums -- You usually get the best answers there.  :)
> Chad

I don't try to use the print capabilities of Gimp, of Inkscape, of 
Krita, of Scribus or whatever. It is easier to save a file (PDF 
anyone?) and print that file out using e.g., Acrobat Reader. 

And now a question. Why are you "upgrading" to the effectively 
abandoned product Vista? Would not Windows 7 make more sense?
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[Gimp-user] Printing Problem

[ChadBJX]

>Chad,

>Can you print _anything_ from Gimp?

>If you can print a very tiny image, maybe it is a printer memory problem.

>Sorry, I can't help further.  I don't have Vista and I am sitting here happily 
>emailing from Ubuntu.  ;-)

>I will have to get Vista soon (for certain software we will be required to 
>use), 
>but I will run that under Vmware on the Ubuntu (as I do with XP, W2K, Win95, 
>and 
>RedHat Linux, and Unixware!).

>Jay

Hi Jay,
Thanks for the idea. I was trying to print a fairly large graphic file size. 
Will try a small simple graphic and will also try saving as a .jpg instead of 
Gimp's default format and see if that works for me. I'll let you know but it 
may be a few days until I can get back to the forum to let you know.
Thanks again.
I love forums -- You usually get the best answers there.  :)
Chad


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[Gimp-user] Printing Problem

[ChadBJX]

Hi,
I'm new to Gimp and love it. I'm using version 2.6.10 on a laptop running Win 
Vista. But I do have a problem (besides using Windows - I prefer Ubuntu but 
stuck with Windows here). I just bought a Kodak ESP 3250 printer. I can't get 
the printer to print from Gimp, I get a message that the printer isn't found. I 
can Scan from it (it's a printer/scanner)using Gimp. I can also print with the 
printer using WordPad (Windows text editor) and can print from an old copy of 
Paint Shop Pro (vr. 7) Also, when I try to print from Gimp it seems to bog down 
or something. Much later, when shutting down the printer, I did get a message 
asking if I was sure I wanted to cancel printing the graphic I was trying to 
print in Gimp.

Now I COULD keep editing in Gimp, saving as a file compatible to Paint Shop 
Pro, opening the graphic with Paint Shop and printing from there but that's 
kind of a pain.

Any ideas, suggestions would be very helpful, other than trashing Windows 
(which isn't an option since I don't own this computer, I just have to work 
with it). Kodak's out-sourced support was NO help at all.

Thanks,
Chad

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing

[Frank Gore]

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Norman Silverstone
 wrote:
> I have had a perfectly good colour printer for some years but have
> concluded that, for good results and peace of mind at a reasonable cost,
> I send my photos to be commercially printed. I agree that there are
> reasonably priced printers readily available but the real cost of
> printing is in the ink and paper. For example, unless you leave your
> printer permanently switched, on every time you start the printer the
> procedure at start up uses ink. There are many other things that can
> happen such as clogged jets which are difficult to clean and also
> consume ink and, unless you buy really good quality inks which are
> expensive, you will probably never be really satisfied with the results.

That's very debatable, and depends entirely on the outside lab you use
to get your pictures printed. Most photo labs have printers that only
cover the sRGB gamut or less. For example, all the cheap photo labs
(ie. WalMart, Costco, local pharmacies) use commercial printers that
don't even cover the full sRGB gamut. A 4x6 picture at these places is
usually $0.15 or so, depending on taxes.

Some higher end photo labs (Ritz Camera, Lord Photo, other camera
retail outlets) have a printer that covers the AdobeRGB gamut, but
their software and their lab techs only work in sRGB anyways. They
have their workspace set to sRGB and they usually ignore any embedded
colour space in your files. There's a 50/50 chance they'll either
convert it to sRGB anyways (which minimizes the damage), or they'll
assign an sRGB profile to your picture and ruin the colours in the
process. I recently paid $0.29 at Ritz camera for a single 4x6, which
is twice as much as the places I mentioned above.

Of the professional photo labs, many only work in sRGB. Some work with
AdobeRGB, but these tend to cost more. The result usually looks great,
but they cost significantly more than the camera retail stores. I have
to wait for them to be printed and mailed (more cost), then I have to
get into my big V8 diesel pickup truck and drive to the mailbox to
pick them up, thereby adding yet more cost. If I'm not happy with the
results, too bad for me.

Meanwhile, the high-end photo printers from Canon, HP, Epson et al
cost very little initially, and they tend to cover an even wider
colour gamut than AdobeRGB (closer to ProPhotoRGB in some cases). If I
really care about a photo I'm printing, I can print it myself, see the
results right away, and if I need to make any changes, I can do those
right away and reprint immediately. This is a very nice luxury.

If I have a bunch of pictures to print and their quality isn't
important to me, I'll happily drive over to WalMart and use one of
those self-serve kiosks. It's cheap, it's fast, and the pictures look
fine in my opinion. Not stunning, just fine (as long as I converted
them all to sRGB first and don't mind losing some of the colours). I
can even justify the fuel cost. But if I have a stunning picture that
I spent hours post-processing, I want the luxury of being able to
print it myself. I want the widest colour gamut possible, I want
complete control over the process, and I want to see it immediately.
This is worth the extra cost for me, and I actually find it cheaper
than working with the professional photo labs.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing

[Norman Silverstone]

< snip >

> I'm one of those people who's a hard core open source user and sniffs
> disdainfully at any proprietary solution to achieve my means :) But I
> try not to impose these irrational beliefs on anyone else, especially
> on mailing lists and forums. I'd much rather saddle myself with a
> crappy, generic photo printer of dubious quality than try out software
> that might function perfectly well :)

I do under stand your point of view regarding software and Linux.
> 
> But in all seriousness, there are other reasons to get a photo
> printer. My Color LaserJet might be great for documents and graphics,
> but it sucks horribly at printing photos. It can't do border-less
> printing, its colour rendering is inferior, and it costs a fortune in
> toner. A great HP photo printer is only $140 or so and would give me
> better print quality than commercial photo printing companies.
 
I have had a perfectly good colour printer for some years but have
concluded that, for good results and peace of mind at a reasonable cost,
I send my photos to be commercially printed. I agree that there are
reasonably priced printers readily available but the real cost of
printing is in the ink and paper. For example, unless you leave your
printer permanently switched, on every time you start the printer the
procedure at start up uses ink. There are many other things that can
happen such as clogged jets which are difficult to clean and also
consume ink and, unless you buy really good quality inks which are
expensive, you will probably never be really satisfied with the results.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing

[Gene Heskett]

On Sunday 21 February 2010, Frank Gore wrote:
>On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Dick Smith  wrote:
>> However, if the $140 printer won't print on linux, then there is lttle to
>> be gained by purchasing one.
>
>I always check for proper Linux support first. There are very few HP
>printers that aren't perfectly supported under Linux. My Color
>LaserJet 2840 does everything in Linux flawlessly, from printing to
>faxing to scanning and even remote-initiated copies (wtf is the point
>of that, anyways?), all over the network. I couldn't even get it to do
>those things reliably under Windows.
>
>On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Gene Heskett  
wrote:
>> And if you ever have shootout comparing that HP to the others, from my
>> experience an Epson ink squirter will be the last man standing.  An old 4
>> color C82 made prints of weddings good enough to sell, with closer color
>> matching than the so called pro who farms his stuff out to the "custom
>> lab" in his local CVS.  HP's red dye is way too orange to suit me. 
>> That's how they get the brightness, yes, but that isn't a true red no
>> matter how much ink you soak the paper with.  Sadly, the C82 finally
>> burned out its head, so there is now an NX515 sitting here, but I need to
>> do a bit of fine tuning, the drivers are a bit old too.
>
>That's interesting! I've been doing tons more photography lately, and
>Gimp has become a much more useful tool as a result. I'm definitely
>looking for something with good colour fidelity, so I'll have to check
>out the options. It's just hard to beat HP's Linux support. Even the
>printers they don't officially support (of which there are few) tend
>to work flawlessly anyways. I've been burned in this department before
>with cheap Lexmark printers.
>
Lexmark?  Oops, sorry, but now we're both guilty, so I'll be right behind you 
in the line to warsh my mouth out with some of grandma's lye soap.  They 
obviously have more lawyers than engineers, and will sue anyone who says 
differently.  Be advised their warranty is null and void if its ever been 
hooked up to a linux box.  Been there, learned  that, but the lesson cost me 
a bit over 100 USD for that class's tuition.

-- 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing

[Frank Gore]

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Dick Smith  wrote:
> However, if the $140 printer won't print on linux, then there is lttle to be
> gained by purchasing one.

I always check for proper Linux support first. There are very few HP
printers that aren't perfectly supported under Linux. My Color
LaserJet 2840 does everything in Linux flawlessly, from printing to
faxing to scanning and even remote-initiated copies (wtf is the point
of that, anyways?), all over the network. I couldn't even get it to do
those things reliably under Windows.

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Gene Heskett  wrote:
> And if you ever have shootout comparing that HP to the others, from my
> experience an Epson ink squirter will be the last man standing.  An old 4
> color C82 made prints of weddings good enough to sell, with closer color
> matching than the so called pro who farms his stuff out to the "custom lab"
> in his local CVS.  HP's red dye is way too orange to suit me.  That's how
> they get the brightness, yes, but that isn't a true red no matter how much
> ink you soak the paper with.  Sadly, the C82 finally burned out its head, so
> there is now an NX515 sitting here, but I need to do a bit of fine tuning,
> the drivers are a bit old too.

That's interesting! I've been doing tons more photography lately, and
Gimp has become a much more useful tool as a result. I'm definitely
looking for something with good colour fidelity, so I'll have to check
out the options. It's just hard to beat HP's Linux support. Even the
printers they don't officially support (of which there are few) tend
to work flawlessly anyways. I've been burned in this department before
with cheap Lexmark printers.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing

[Frank Gore]

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Norman Silverstone
 wrote:
> Just a suggestion, have you tried using TurboPrint, a free trial is
> available? It may work and is much cheaper than a new printer.

I'm one of those people who's a hard core open source user and sniffs
disdainfully at any proprietary solution to achieve my means :) But I
try not to impose these irrational beliefs on anyone else, especially
on mailing lists and forums. I'd much rather saddle myself with a
crappy, generic photo printer of dubious quality than try out software
that might function perfectly well :)

But in all seriousness, there are other reasons to get a photo
printer. My Color LaserJet might be great for documents and graphics,
but it sucks horribly at printing photos. It can't do border-less
printing, its colour rendering is inferior, and it costs a fortune in
toner. A great HP photo printer is only $140 or so and would give me
better print quality than commercial photo printing companies.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing

[Norman Silverstone]

> > Using GIMP 2.6, running on Ubuntu Linux, v9.10.  The printer is an HP
> > Photosmart C5180 on my home network.  I have the hplip printing package
> > installed.  I've chosen Custom Sizes from the page setup options, choosing
> > the C5180.
> >
> > The HPLIP is the latest version available.
> 
> I've never been able to print custom sizes with my HP printer and
> HPLIP. Not with Gimp or anything else. Anything other than the
> printer's built-in formats results in either cups disabling the
> printer, or a messed-up output. My printer is not a photo printer,
> it's a business-class network laser printer, so I can't even print
> pictures because there are no built-in picture sizes available for me
> to choose from. This is despite the fact that my printer has a
> built-in card reader and a dedicated picture-printing function. I
> can't even select custom sizes on the printer itself, disregarding
> HPLIP altogether. I've been contemplating buying a picture printer
> specifically for making prints of my pictures without having to drive
> to the store all the time.

Just a suggestion, have you tried using TurboPrint, a free trial is
available? It may work and is much cheaper than a new printer.

Norman


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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing

[Frank Gore]

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Dick Smith  wrote:
> Using GIMP 2.6, running on Ubuntu Linux, v9.10.  The printer is an HP
> Photosmart C5180 on my home network.  I have the hplip printing package
> installed.  I've chosen Custom Sizes from the page setup options, choosing
> the C5180.
>
> The HPLIP is the latest version available.

I've never been able to print custom sizes with my HP printer and
HPLIP. Not with Gimp or anything else. Anything other than the
printer's built-in formats results in either cups disabling the
printer, or a messed-up output. My printer is not a photo printer,
it's a business-class network laser printer, so I can't even print
pictures because there are no built-in picture sizes available for me
to choose from. This is despite the fact that my printer has a
built-in card reader and a dedicated picture-printing function. I
can't even select custom sizes on the printer itself, disregarding
HPLIP altogether. I've been contemplating buying a picture printer
specifically for making prints of my pictures without having to drive
to the store all the time.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing

[Dick Smith]

Using GIMP 2.6, running on Ubuntu Linux, v9.10.  The printer is an HP
Photosmart C5180 on my home network.  I have the hplip printing package
installed.  I've chosen Custom Sizes from the page setup options, choosing
the C5180.

The HPLIP is the latest version available.

Dick

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:

> For starters, what version of GIMP? What platform (WIN, MAC, Linux)?
> What version? Are your drivers up to date? What are you using to print
> from GIMP? What settings are you using in the printer driver, and in the
> interface to the printer driver?
>
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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Dick Smith wrote:


> Is it possible to print to custom sizes using Gimp?  I keep having
> failures when I try to print to a non-standard print size.  Specifically
> trying to create greeting cards printed to a 7x10 inch format.
> Everything seems ok until I send the print job to my HP Photosmart C5180.
>
> The only way I have found around it so far is to save the image and then
> import it into Open Office and print from there, where there are no
> problems.
>
> Thoughts?

For starters, what version of GIMP? What platform (WIN, MAC, Linux)? 
What version? Are your drivers up to date? What are you using to print 
from GIMP? What settings are you using in the printer driver, and in the 
interface to the printer driver?

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[Gimp-user] Printing

[Dick Smith]

Is it possible to print to custom sizes using Gimp?  I keep having failures
when I try to print to a non-standard print size.  Specifically trying to
create greeting cards printed to a 7x10 inch format.  Everything seems ok
until I send the print job to my HP Photosmart C5180.

The only way I have found around it so far is to save the image and then
import it into Open Office and print from there, where there are no
problems.

Thoughts?

Dick
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Re: [Gimp-user] printing

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Somewhere I what wrote:

In case my post was not clear enough, I print black and white line 
drawings and photos from within GIMP 2.6.8 to my printer, a Ricoh Aficio 
610, directly through Ricoh network drivers running an OS of Win 98 PRO SP3.

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing

[Noel Stoutenburg]

jon s.:


I, too, am using Windows XP (though not on a Dell), and upgraded to Gimp 
2.6.8 after I posted my response. Printer is a Ricoh Aficio 610, 
connected as a network printer through a router, printing directly using 
the Windows network drivers supplied by Ricoh for the printer, and it 
works exactly as I expect with black and white line drawings and 
photographs.

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing

[Cristian Secară]

On Sun,  7 Feb 2010 23:05:19 +0100 (CET), jon s. wrote:

> I am running windows xp on a nice dell optiplex.  I believe the os is
> up to date.  Just upgrade to ..6.8.  Gimp works fine, except that I
> cannot print!  I open a line drawing, do file, print, and nothing
> happens.  There must be some setup or plugin I am missing.

I have a similar problem with a Konica Minolta 1300 that is set
up on network (http port), which happens to be the default one in my
system.
My workaround, if I *really* need to prin from within GIMP:
- in my system there is also PDFCreator installed
- I set PDFCreator as the default printer *before* starting GIMP
- do whatever in GIMP
- print -> PDFCreator -> generating pdf
- open the pdf and print to whatever printer

In the above case, after the click on "Print..." but just when the
printers dialog comes up I select the Konica Minolta printer, the
dialog hangs and I have to close it by force, giving a GIMP message
about the plug-in "print.exe" which has crashed, blah, blah.

Cristi

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing

[Deniz Dogan]

2010/2/7 jon s. :
> Hi all, and thanks in advance for your help.  I am a newbie with GIMP, and
> usually use it for light touch up of digital photos of artwork.
>
> I am running windows xp on a nice dell optiplex.  I believe the os is up to
> date.  Just upgrade to ..6.8.  Gimp works fine, except that I cannot print!  I
> open a line drawing, do file, print, and nothing happens.  There must be some
> setup or plugin I am missing.  The fix must be easy, but I am stumped.  I
> would appreciate some help.  Thanks,
>
> Jon Stivers
>

For what it's worth, I have never been able to print from GIMP either.
I have to save it to a "normal" image format, open it up in a "normal"
image viewer and print it from there.

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing

[Noel Stoutenburg]

jon s.:

The information you included is insufficient for me to be of much help.


> I am running windows xp on a nice dell optiplex.  I believe the os is up to
> date.  Just upgrade to ..6.8.  Gimp works fine, except that I cannot print!  I
> open a line drawing, do file, print, and nothing happens.  There must be some
> setup or plugin I am missing.  The fix must be easy, but I am stumped.  I
> would appreciate some help.


In particular, one needs to know what printer you are using, and in what 
mode. Are your printer drivers up to date? Do you get any error 
messages? I don't know what browser you use, but most browsers will 
handle certain image formats natively; can you print one of those? what 
happens if you save your line drawing in one of the formats that your 
preferred browser handles natively; will it print that way?

ns

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[Gimp-user] printing

[jon s.]

Hi all, and thanks in advance for your help.  I am a newbie with GIMP, and
usually use it for light touch up of digital photos of artwork.

I am running windows xp on a nice dell optiplex.  I believe the os is up to
date.  Just upgrade to ..6.8.  Gimp works fine, except that I cannot print!  I
open a line drawing, do file, print, and nothing happens.  There must be some
setup or plugin I am missing.  The fix must be easy, but I am stumped.  I
would appreciate some help.  Thanks,

Jon Stivers

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing (was Re: running out of hair)

[Norman Silverstone]

After lots and lots of trying to print I had to spend some cash and buy
TurboPrint - problem solved.

Norman

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing (was Re: running out of hair)

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 28 December 2009, Akkana Peck wrote:
>Gene Heskett writes:
>> >So my question is: Where do I put the BR2140.ppd that cups uses so that
>> > the gutenprint plug-in can also find it?  The regular print dialog has
>> > no knowledge of this printer, and nowhere near enough controls to be
>> > usable.
>
>The regular (GTK) print dialog should see CUPS-registered printers.

Yes and no.  It sees them, but I've had to add them before it works.

>Gutenprint doesn't -- for Gutenprint you have to add each printer
>yourself, and it doesn't have drivers for a lot of printers that
>CUPS supports just fine,

Or reconfigure it by figuring out where to put the HL-2140.ppd.gz package, 
which I believe I have done now:
[r...@coyote ups]# locate HL2140.ppd.gz
/usr/share/foomatic/db/source/PPD/Brother/HL2140.ppd.gz
/usr/share/ppd/HL2140.ppd.gz

So that one is working.  And it now appears I need to do the same thing for 
my new NX-515 all-in-one, but that brings up another problem.  I cannot leave 
the xsane dialog open to the scanner in it, and print at the same time, the 
print jobs then apparently go to /dev/null, and the printer icons green ready 
button in the FF display turns yellow, not red.  I tried to use the NX515's 
built in copy function, but the copy was so bad it went straight to the round 
file.  So if there are multiple pages to copy, I have to get them, save them, 
close out the xsane dialog, then reload, do any adjustments, and then print.
And when the printing didn't work, it made a 20 minute job for 8 pages into a 
4 hour job.  Foomatics NX400.ppd almost works with this, as does mtink, but 
it says all the color tanks are empty all the time.

And mtink, I need working badly as the thing doesn't tell you which tank is 
low.  Does it expect you to replace all 4 tanks at almost $90 USD everytime 
one runs out?  If so, I will shortly have enough in this one to be able to 
afford a color laser, if I could stand the orange color of their reds.

Recommendations please?

Thanks.

>For Gutenprint, try asking on the gimp-print list (they're friendly)

except for Waugh, its his way or the hiway, so I eventually unssubbed.

>to find out if there's a way to install a ppd manually.
>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gimp-print-devel

I resubscribed (I think) and posted a query there on 11/17/2009, but no 
replies have been received.  No traffic from the list at all...  Not even a 
reminder from mailman.  I'll go see if it will let me login.  No, so my 
subscription didn't stick.

rant mode ON!

Dammit I'm sick of sourceforge's CRS, enough so that I would never host a 
project of mine there.  I'm a maintainer of the nitros9 project, and it 
forgot about me about a week after I setup the account 4 or 5 years ago so I 
haven't been able to do a cvs submission since and it won't let be setup a 
new account, claims I already exist.  Fuggem.

/rant

>> It is then printed portrait, full sized.  Any other method prints it
>> landscape, slightly smaller in scale and still with some of the bottom
>> clipped off.
>
>I've had a lot of trouble controlling details like edges and borders.
>With my HP and the GTK print dialog, I managed briefly to get
>borderless (full bleed) prints, but something changed in the CUPS
>settings and now I get unpredictable margin sizes, and I haven't
>found the magic setting to turn borderless back on.

That option, as you know, comes from the driver, and is displayed and 
changeable from the gutenprint gui gimp calls here, and hasn't changed with 
any cups updates, currently at 1.3.11 here.  However there are some miss-cues 
in the NX515 when being driven by the NX400 driver ppd, which is the newest 
one I can find.  Trying some modes will only empty the paper chute for 
instance.  My one message to the list did get there, and I offered to be a 
crash test dummy/mule, so I figured that would generate some traffic.  No.  
And now I'm not subbed (again).

>I didn't
>have any better luck when I had an Epson and used Gutenprint.
>Accurate printing from GIMP still involves some luck and black magic.

That depends on the printer.  My old C82, using the C84 driver ppd, was photo 
perfect, I've sold wedding prints out of it!  Until after > 2 kilobucks in 
ink over many years and at least half a ton of paper, the print head finally 
failed.  This NX515 I will need to fight with till its obsolete, at which 
point we may have a good driver for it. ;-)  With luck.  And that luck does 
NOT include sourceforge.

>   ...Akkana

Thanks Akkana

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[Gimp-user] Printing (was Re: running out of hair)

[Akkana Peck]

Gene Heskett writes:
> >So my question is: Where do I put the BR2140.ppd that cups uses so that the
> >gutenprint plug-in can also find it?  The regular print dialog has no
> >knowledge of this printer, and nowhere near enough controls to be usable.

The regular (GTK) print dialog should see CUPS-registered printers.
Gutenprint doesn't -- for Gutenprint you have to add each printer
yourself, and it doesn't have drivers for a lot of printers that
CUPS supports just fine, so you have to use "Postscript Level II"
and do without any special features the printer might otherwise offer.
For Gutenprint, try asking on the gimp-print list (they're friendly)
to find out if there's a way to install a ppd manually.
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gimp-print-devel

> It is then printed portrait, full sized.  Any other method prints it 
> landscape, slightly smaller in scale and still with some of the bottom 
> clipped off.

I've had a lot of trouble controlling details like edges and borders.
With my HP and the GTK print dialog, I managed briefly to get
borderless (full bleed) prints, but something changed in the CUPS
settings and now I get unpredictable margin sizes, and I haven't
found the magic setting to turn borderless back on. I didn't
have any better luck when I had an Epson and used Gutenprint.
Accurate printing from GIMP still involves some luck and black magic.

...Akkana
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[Gimp-user] Printing from only one print jet

[Dotan Cohen]

I understand that in the past Gimp could not work with CMYK colours,
but that the current version 2.6.x can. I need to clean one of the
print jets on my HP Officejet 4255 printer and I wonder if I could
create an image in Gimp that would spray with only this jet. How would
I go about creating three images, each of which would only use one of
the CMY colours for printing?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing issue

[John Culleton]

On Friday 24 July 2009 12:40:42 am Erik Lotspeich wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have OpenSUSE 11.1 and Gimp 2.6.2.  I am having a serious
> problem with printing that I cannot figure out.
>
> For background, I've used Gimp since 1997 and I'm no novice to
> Gimp, Linux, or Unix.
>
> That being said, I found the printing in Gimp 2.2 to be near
> perfect. It worked perfectly and had a feature to auto-fit the
> image to the correct paper size.  Image rotation
> (landscape/portrait) was never an issue.
>
> I find the printing interface in Gimp 2.6.2 to be a complete
> failure in terms of both interface and functionality.  Here are
> links to some screenshots:
>
> https://joomla.lotspeich.org/~erik/gimp-print-fail.png
> https://joomla.lotspeich.org/~erik/gimp-image-properties.png
>
> I would like to know why the width and height do not correspond
> to any reasonable value.  I set my paper size to 4x6 borderless
> on an HP OfficeJet 6110.  Printing on this printer works
> perfectly in other programs; I'm using hplip and CUPS.
>
> Why is there no auto-resize like there is in Gimp 2.2?
>
> Why is the X and Y resolution pegged to 1133.948?  Why won't it
> let me set this value?
>
> The preview does not correspond in any way to my paper size (see
> the huge border on the bottom!).
>
> I'm sorry to sound upset by this issue, but I'm completely
> shocked that a wonderful program like Gimp would have such a
> complete regression. I'm using the distro version of Gimp
> (OpenSUSE); I haven't tried to compile the latest version from
> source.
>
> I also tried Gimp for Windows on my wife's Windows Vista
> computer. Printing here is just as much of a failure.  On
> Windows, it's actually worse since the page setup options that
> Gimp provides conflict with the printer driver's settings (e.g.
> paper size, rotation, etc.).  I tried all permutations of
> portrait/landscape and could never find a way to print correctly.
>
> Any help or assistance would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards,
>
> Erik
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My history with Gimp is much more limited than yours.  I have always 
used Gimp for creation/manipulation of images and some other 
program for printing out the  results in a document.  When I rarely 
need to print color work locally I throw a switch to redirect 
traffic to my Epson Stylus Color 880 and select that printer from 
the Cups popup.  Someday I hope to get a color laser. But I will 
still use Gimp for image massaging and something else to print out 
the results. 

Perhaps I should test Gutenprint directly from Gimp just to be sure 
it works.

My Epson 880 is ancient. Hence it is well understood by software.  
When it dies I may try to find another on EBay. 

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing issue

[Norman Silverstone]

> I guess that it is possible your theory is correct and that this is the
> motivation.
> 
> Since printing with Gimp on Vista does not work properly, it calls this
> theory into question, however.

You have a point. However, my view has always been that, although it is
great that the bulk of software I need to use is free, I am quite
prepared to buy something, if necessary. Thus, I use TurboPrint for
printing from Gimp and have done for several years.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing issue

[Erik Lotspeich]

Hi Norman,

I guess that it is possible your theory is correct and that this is the
motivation.

Since printing with Gimp on Vista does not work properly, it calls this
theory into question, however.

Regards,

Erik

Norman Silverstone wrote:
> < snip >
> 
>> Just imagine a novice Linux user.  Imagine your mother-in-law who wants
>> to print a photo with Gimp.  She will fail.  That is my point.  I think
>> that you all are missing the point that I'm making.  Your mother-in-law
>> will be confused by "Print" and "Print with Gutenprint".  Nobody has to
>> worry about this garbage with Photoshop -- the user does File->Print and
>> it "just works".  Us open-source guys are smart talented people.  Let's
>> make software that actually works and is easy-to-use.
> 
> I have tried to follow this discussion because I also have had printing
> problems over the years. Could part of the need for 2 possible 'print'
> selections be because of the need to please Windows as well as Linux
> users?
> 
> Norman
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing issue

[Norman Silverstone]

< snip >

> Just imagine a novice Linux user.  Imagine your mother-in-law who wants
> to print a photo with Gimp.  She will fail.  That is my point.  I think
> that you all are missing the point that I'm making.  Your mother-in-law
> will be confused by "Print" and "Print with Gutenprint".  Nobody has to
> worry about this garbage with Photoshop -- the user does File->Print and
> it "just works".  Us open-source guys are smart talented people.  Let's
> make software that actually works and is easy-to-use.

I have tried to follow this discussion because I also have had printing
problems over the years. Could part of the need for 2 possible 'print'
selections be because of the need to please Windows as well as Linux
users?

Norman


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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing issue

[Erik Lotspeich]

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Hi Gene,

Your point is well taken.  I do not expect the Gimp people to keep on
top of printing at all.

But why not have Gutenprint be a pre-requisite to Gimp?  Why deliver a
broken default printing system?

For the record, my distro does deliver the Gutenprint Gimp plug-in, but
it wasn't installed by default.  As I mentioned before, this is not a
distro issue.

Software should "just work".  We should all be moving toward this goal.

Gene Heskett wrote:
> Those of us who've used Gimp for the last half decade and more, just know 
> that 
> we should also pull in gutenprint, or if your distro doesn't have it, build 
> it 
> from the tarball, its not THAT difficult.

In my opinion, this attitude is completely wrong.  Gimp needs to work
out-of-the-box.  As I mentioned, I used Gimp for many years and I was
caught by surprise by this Gutenprint thing.

Just imagine a novice Linux user.  Imagine your mother-in-law who wants
to print a photo with Gimp.  She will fail.  That is my point.  I think
that you all are missing the point that I'm making.  Your mother-in-law
will be confused by "Print" and "Print with Gutenprint".  Nobody has to
worry about this garbage with Photoshop -- the user does File->Print and
it "just works".  Us open-source guys are smart talented people.  Let's
make software that actually works and is easy-to-use.

Regards,

Erik.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing issue

[Gene Heskett]

On Saturday 25 July 2009, Erik Lotspeich wrote:
>Hi Chris,
>
>I appreciate your feedback.  Looking at the history of gutenprint only
>solidifies my point which is:
>
>Native Gimp printing = FAIL
>Gutenprint (Gimp plug-in) = WIN
>
>My distro is OpenSUSE 11.1 which is a popular, modern Linux distribution
>backed by a large company.  I have all the updates.
>
>The fact is that it is the Gimp maintainers who have failed to provide a
>working printing system.  Surely, you aren't asserting that the
>Gutenprint folks are responsible for Gimp's broken native printing
>system... the Gimp folks need to deliver a complete piece of software.
>They have nobody to blame but themselves for the current mess.
>
>Gutenprint provides a printing system that works.  The OpenSUSE folks
>have NOTHING to do with the fact that Gimp's printing is all but
>non-functional.
>
>I'm quite sick of this attitude in the Linux community that distro
>maintainers are responsible for broken software.  The truth is that the
>distro maintainers are constantly patching and making up for the
>inadequacies of the upstream source packages to try to cobble something
>together that works.  They often don't succeed.
>
>Regards,
>
>Erik.

Erik, I thinnk you are missing a point here.  Gimp is the image tool, yes.
But between foomatic and gutenprint, and as I have epson printers, I'm partial 
to gutenprint, keeping ahead of the continuous efforts of the printer people 
to create a completely dependent on the maker product, so they can give away 
the printer and make it up on inflated ink prices, and do it as well as they 
do, involves at least as many folks to keep gutenprint up to date as it does 
to keep a steady stream of improvements coming along in Gimp.

This is really two separate problems cuz there are 200 printers, all needing 
slightly different drivers out in the field being used every day, for every 
Gimp contributor.  Probably at least 250 under the Epson label alone, & 
Lexmark (spit) probably doesn't make the same model for more than 30 days.

You simply cannot expect the Gimp folks to keep ahead of that.

Those of us who've used Gimp for the last half decade and more, just know that 
we should also pull in gutenprint, or if your distro doesn't have it, build it 
from the tarball, its not THAT difficult.  I've done it many times and I'm 
your classic old fart, I'll be 75 in a couple months.

>> Please go here and read the history/purpose of gutenprint (below the
>> news): http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/
>>
>> Then direct your rant at whoever is packaging your distro ;)

+1000

>> Chris

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing issue

[Erik Lotspeich]

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Hi Chris,

I appreciate your feedback.  Looking at the history of gutenprint only
solidifies my point which is:

Native Gimp printing = FAIL
Gutenprint (Gimp plug-in) = WIN

My distro is OpenSUSE 11.1 which is a popular, modern Linux distribution
backed by a large company.  I have all the updates.

The fact is that it is the Gimp maintainers who have failed to provide a
working printing system.  Surely, you aren't asserting that the
Gutenprint folks are responsible for Gimp's broken native printing
system... the Gimp folks need to deliver a complete piece of software.
They have nobody to blame but themselves for the current mess.

Gutenprint provides a printing system that works.  The OpenSUSE folks
have NOTHING to do with the fact that Gimp's printing is all but
non-functional.

I'm quite sick of this attitude in the Linux community that distro
maintainers are responsible for broken software.  The truth is that the
distro maintainers are constantly patching and making up for the
inadequacies of the upstream source packages to try to cobble something
together that works.  They often don't succeed.

Regards,

Erik.

Chris Mohler wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Erik Lotspeich wrote:
> 
>> The fact that the Gimp engineers haven't integrated these two printing
>> systems is unacceptable -- they should be ashamed.  Gimp will never be
>> taken seriously until this printing nightmare is resolved.  I am a
>> software engineer myself, so it's not like I'm speaking simply from a
>> user point-of-view.
> 
> Please go here and read the history/purpose of gutenprint (below the news):
> http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/
> 
> Then direct your rant at whoever is packaging your distro ;)
> 
> Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing issue

[Chris Mohler]

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Erik Lotspeich wrote:

> The fact that the Gimp engineers haven't integrated these two printing
> systems is unacceptable -- they should be ashamed.  Gimp will never be
> taken seriously until this printing nightmare is resolved.  I am a
> software engineer myself, so it's not like I'm speaking simply from a
> user point-of-view.

Please go here and read the history/purpose of gutenprint (below the news):
http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/

Then direct your rant at whoever is packaging your distro ;)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing issue

[Erik Lotspeich]

Hi Joao,

I very much appreciate your measured response to my rant! ;)

I installed the Gutenprint plugin and printing works exactly as I would
expect it to.  Your suggestion really saved the day for me and I
appreciate it greatly!


For the record, I find it absurd that Gimp has two parallel printing
systems.  The default system, although it can glean printer and
paper-size information from CUPS, is clearly broken and lacks features
necessary to print photographs and other media effectively (or, in many
cases, at all!).

Gutenprint has necessary features like auto-orientation, color
correction, ability to auto-size images, etc. but lacks integration with
CUPS.  It is necessary to use RAW mode or have the PPD available and
print PostScript to obtain decent results.  This is also non-ideal since
CUPS already has the PPD and you need to reference it again for
Gutenprint (sometimes this means having the PPD both on the local
machine and on the remote print server).

The fact that the Gimp engineers haven't integrated these two printing
systems is unacceptable -- they should be ashamed.  Gimp will never be
taken seriously until this printing nightmare is resolved.  I am a
software engineer myself, so it's not like I'm speaking simply from a
user point-of-view.

Regards,

Erik.


Joao S. O. Bueno wrote:
> On Friday 24 July 2009, Erik Lotspeich wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have OpenSUSE 11.1 and Gimp 2.6.2.  I am having a serious problem with
>> printing that I cannot figure out.
>>
>> For background, I've used Gimp since 1997 and I'm no novice to Gimp,
>> Linux, or Unix.
>>
>> That being said, I found the printing in Gimp 2.2 to be near perfect.
>> It worked perfectly and had a feature to auto-fit the image to the
>> correct paper size.  Image rotation (landscape/portrait) was never an
>> issue.
> (...)
> 
> Hi Erik - 
> those features are now maintained in the external "gutenprint" (formerly 
> "gimp-print" ) project;. Please search you r distro packages for gutenprint
> gimp related packages, and the printing plgu-in with the itnerface you are 
> used to (and the features you are needing) should become available.
> 
>   js
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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing issue

[Joao S. O. Bueno]

On Friday 24 July 2009, Erik Lotspeich wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have OpenSUSE 11.1 and Gimp 2.6.2.  I am having a serious problem with
> printing that I cannot figure out.
>
> For background, I've used Gimp since 1997 and I'm no novice to Gimp,
> Linux, or Unix.
>
> That being said, I found the printing in Gimp 2.2 to be near perfect.
> It worked perfectly and had a feature to auto-fit the image to the
> correct paper size.  Image rotation (landscape/portrait) was never an
> issue.
(...)

Hi Erik - 
those features are now maintained in the external "gutenprint" (formerly 
"gimp-print" ) project;. Please search you r distro packages for gutenprint
gimp related packages, and the printing plgu-in with the itnerface you are 
used to (and the features you are needing) should become available.

  js
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[Gimp-user] Printing issue

[Erik Lotspeich]

Hi,

I have OpenSUSE 11.1 and Gimp 2.6.2.  I am having a serious problem with
printing that I cannot figure out.

For background, I've used Gimp since 1997 and I'm no novice to Gimp,
Linux, or Unix.

That being said, I found the printing in Gimp 2.2 to be near perfect.
It worked perfectly and had a feature to auto-fit the image to the
correct paper size.  Image rotation (landscape/portrait) was never an issue.

I find the printing interface in Gimp 2.6.2 to be a complete failure in
terms of both interface and functionality.  Here are links to some
screenshots:

https://joomla.lotspeich.org/~erik/gimp-print-fail.png
https://joomla.lotspeich.org/~erik/gimp-image-properties.png

I would like to know why the width and height do not correspond to any
reasonable value.  I set my paper size to 4x6 borderless on an HP
OfficeJet 6110.  Printing on this printer works perfectly in other
programs; I'm using hplip and CUPS.

Why is there no auto-resize like there is in Gimp 2.2?

Why is the X and Y resolution pegged to 1133.948?  Why won't it let me
set this value?

The preview does not correspond in any way to my paper size (see the
huge border on the bottom!).

I'm sorry to sound upset by this issue, but I'm completely shocked that
a wonderful program like Gimp would have such a complete regression.
I'm using the distro version of Gimp (OpenSUSE); I haven't tried to
compile the latest version from source.

I also tried Gimp for Windows on my wife's Windows Vista computer.
Printing here is just as much of a failure.  On Windows, it's actually
worse since the page setup options that Gimp provides conflict with the
printer driver's settings (e.g. paper size, rotation, etc.).  I tried
all permutations of portrait/landscape and could never find a way to
print correctly.

Any help or assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Erik
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[Gimp-user] Printing problems

[John R.]

Gimp 2.6.5, Vista software, HP printer.  Selecting "print" in Gimp "file" area
selects my HP printer window, but print results don't match my selection in HP
printer window. Gimp doesn't talk to printer.  Printer is ok in other software
pgms.  No "special "print" window as shone in online help. 

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing from a batch

[Decimator Doseven]

On Wed Feb 25 13:50:21 PST 2009 Sven Neumann wrote:

>It would help to make some suggestions for the parameters that need to

>be added.

>Until we have changed this, you could work around the missing parameters
>by having your script modify the files print-settings and
>print-page-setup as found in the ~/.gimp-2.6 folder.

Well, the most important parameters would be:
Destination printer, copies, the four margins, DPI, paper size,
and how to fit a large image on a page.
Shrink, crop, tile over multiple pages, or tile multiple images on a page.
Portrait or landscape would also be useful.



  
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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing from a batch

[Sven Neumann]

Hi,

On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 07:03 -0800, Decimator Doseven wrote:
> It appears that I was mistaken, and the script used a command that gimp does 
> not have:
> "file_print_gimp"
> 
> http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/lists/gimp-user/2006-April/007923.html
> 
> I assumed(obviously incorrectly) that the name of the command had changed.
> 
> In this case, is this there a command that allows me to change the 
> destination printer for gimp?
> I have succeeded in making gimp print via a batch, using file-print-gtk, but 
> it prints to the last used printer.
> I also need a command to modify the margins, as gimp currently cuts off part 
> of the image.

No, there isn't. It might make sense to add some additional parameters
to the file-print-gtk and file-print-gtk-page-setup procedures. That
would break the API and might cause problems for scripts using these.
But then, the current API does not seem sufficient to actually use these
procedures, so I guess we can afford the breakage.

It would help to make some suggestions for the parameters that need to
be added.

Until we have changed this, you could work around the missing parameters
by having your script modify the files print-settings and
print-page-setup as found in the ~/.gimp-2.6 folder.


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing from a batch

[Decimator Doseven]

It appears that I was mistaken, and the script used a command that gimp does 
not have:
"file_print_gimp"

http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/lists/gimp-user/2006-April/007923.html

I assumed(obviously incorrectly) that the name of the command had changed.

In this case, is this there a command that allows me to change the destination 
printer for gimp?
I have succeeded in making gimp print via a batch, using file-print-gtk, but it 
prints to the last used printer.
I also need a command to modify the margins, as gimp currently cuts off part of 
the image.



Sven Neumann on Tue Feb 24 12:09:08 PST 2009

>What does it not do that you need? I am pretty sure that the API of
>file-print-gtk did not change, so I wonder what those scripts would do
>differently.


  
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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing from a batch

[Sven Neumann]

Hi,

On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 15:02 -0800, Decimator Doseven wrote:
> It does not appear to.  All it has is (file-print-gtk run-mode image),
> which does not do what I need and does not match what I've seen 
> in the various(unfortunately non-working) scripts that I was able to find.

What does it not do that you need? I am pretty sure that the API of
file-print-gtk did not change, so I wonder what those scripts would do
differently.


Sven

PS: Next time, please reply to the list.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing from a batch

[Sven Neumann]

Hi,

On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 14:20 -0800, Decimator Doseven wrote:
> Could someone tell me the proper syntax for "file-print-gtk"?

The Prodecure Browser (as found in the GIMP Help menu) should tell you.


Sven


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[Gimp-user] Printing from a batch

[Decimator Doseven]

Could someone tell me the proper syntax for "file-print-gtk"?

I am building a script to clean up scanned pdfs.  (the originals are carbon 
copies, blech)

I have a working script to clean up tiff files, and am now trying to make it 
work on pdfs.

I want to open the pdf file with gimp, run the operations, and then print it 
back to a pdf file.

I have only been able to find non-working scripts for this purpose.



  
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Re: [Gimp-user] printing only blue

[Francois du Toit]

Another method is to leave the cartridge overnight in a sealed plastic
bag with a piece of wet cloth or similar inside. Of course it won't
work as fast as submerging the nozzle in water, but then you don't
risk flooding the cartridge either.

>> > This is how the printer technician at my work does it:
>> > Place the cartridge head down in a shallow bowl with clean water.
>> > Leave it in for a few hours, wipe it of gently with a clean cloth rag.
>> > Do NOT use tissuepaper!
>> > Make sure its dry before you place it back into the printer again.
>> > This might have to be repeated, but its safe for the nozzles and ink.
>>
>> Thank you, I will try that. I am wary of water and electronics, but
>> the cartridge is pretty much all PET or ABS, and I do believe that the
>> ink is water based.
>
> Just a fraction of an inch of water.
> Dont submerge the whole thing.
> You only need to "wet" the nozzles.
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Re: [Gimp-user] printing only blue

[Rikard Johnels]

On Friday 26 September 2008 01:46, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2008/9/25 Rikard Johnels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Spit is probably one of the worst cleaning solvents you can use...
> > The nozzles are so small that particles in your spit will clog them.
> >
> > This is how the printer technician at my work does it:
> > Place the cartridge head down in a shallow bowl with clean water.
> > Leave it in for a few hours, wipe it of gently with a clean cloth rag.
> > Do NOT use tissuepaper!
> > Make sure its dry before you place it back into the printer again.
> > This might have to be repeated, but its safe for the nozzles and ink.
>
> Thank you, I will try that. I am wary of water and electronics, but
> the cartridge is pretty much all PET or ABS, and I do believe that the
> ink is water based.

Just a fraction of an inch of water.
Dont submerge the whole thing.
You only need to "wet" the nozzles.


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Re: [Gimp-user] printing only blue

[Dotan Cohen]

2008/9/25 Rikard Johnels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Spit is probably one of the worst cleaning solvents you can use...
> The nozzles are so small that particles in your spit will clog them.
>
> This is how the printer technician at my work does it:
> Place the cartridge head down in a shallow bowl with clean water.
> Leave it in for a few hours, wipe it of gently with a clean cloth rag.
> Do NOT use tissuepaper!
> Make sure its dry before you place it back into the printer again.
> This might have to be repeated, but its safe for the nozzles and ink.
>

Thank you, I will try that. I am wary of water and electronics, but
the cartridge is pretty much all PET or ABS, and I do believe that the
ink is water based.

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing only blue

[Rikard Johnels]

On Tuesday 23 September 2008 19:11, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2008/9/23 Kevin Cozens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Dotan Cohen wrote:
> >> My printer has a stuck blue nozzle and I am trying to clean it.
> >
> > The simplest solution is to run multiple cleaning cycles to clear the
> > nozzles. I had an inkjet printer where multiple nozzles were clogged. It
> > took about three or four of the printers built-in cleaning cycles to
> > fully unclog all holes in all of the cartridges.
>
> I've run tens of passes. Everything is clean but the blue reservoir,
> which is stuck real bad. I'm cleaning it with spit, printing, spit,
> printing, but I have a long ways to go and I'd like to not waste the
> ink from the other reservoirs. That's why I'd like to print only blue.

Spit is probably one of the worst cleaning solvents you can use...
The nozzles are so small that particles in your spit will clog them.

This is how the printer technician at my work does it:
Place the cartridge head down in a shallow bowl with clean water.
Leave it in for a few hours, wipe it of gently with a clean cloth rag. 
Do NOT use tissuepaper!
Make sure its dry before you place it back into the printer again.
This might have to be repeated, but its safe for the nozzles and ink.



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Re: [Gimp-user] printing only blue

[Dotan Cohen]

2008/9/23 Don Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Cheaper printers are RBY, not CMYK.  He never said he had an RGB
> printer. (I don't think anyone even makes an RGB printer.)  My HP printer,
> for example, had a Red-Blue-Yellow cartridge and a black one. I do have
> another printer that is CMYK.
>

I should have been clear about that, sorry. The printer cartridge has
red, blue, and yellow reserviors, in fact, it is an HP model.

> Best suggestion so far is to use the printer's clean mode.  Otherwise,
> I don't see a big problem with a little bit of red leaking through.
>

I have used the printer's clean mode but it is wasting much ink from
the other reserviors, and wasting the black as well. I figure that I
need at least another ten or so passes, maybe more, so I'd like to
save the other colours.

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing only blue

[Dotan Cohen]

2008/9/23 Kevin Cozens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> My printer has a stuck blue nozzle and I am trying to clean it.
>
> The simplest solution is to run multiple cleaning cycles to clear the nozzles.
> I had an inkjet printer where multiple nozzles were clogged. It took about
> three or four of the printers built-in cleaning cycles to fully unclog all
> holes in all of the cartridges.
>

I've run tens of passes. Everything is clean but the blue reservoir,
which is stuck real bad. I'm cleaning it with spit, printing, spit,
printing, but I have a long ways to go and I'd like to not waste the
ink from the other reservoirs. That's why I'd like to print only blue.

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing only blue

[Don Koch]

On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:26:28 -0400
John Culleton wrote:

> On Tuesday 23 September 2008 05:20:47 am Torsten Neuer wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Am Dienstag, 23. September 2008 10:36:18 schrieb Dotan Cohen:
> > > My printer has a stuck blue nozzle and I am trying to clean it.
> > > Of the blue, yellow, red, and black cartridges, I want to only
> > > print from the blue. I tried to configure a blue-255 colour and
> > > the rest 0, however the printed image still uses a bit from the
> > > red cartridge as the choice of colours differ from those in Gimp.
> > > What colour could I configure, that would translate to blue only
> > > from the printer?
> >
> > Printers are normally CMYK, not RGB. That is why ff will also
> > utilize the other cartridges of the printer, not only cyan.
> > You will therefore have to select 100% C from CMYK colourspace in
> > order to only print from the C cartridge - which is a bit awkward
> > in Gimp, since the program has no direct CMYK support.
> > Nevertheless, you can do so with the colour selector (get to the
> > printer colour selection mode for CMYK colours). The colour will be
> > translated to RGB 00...
> >
> > HTH
> >
> >   Torsten
> 
> ImageMagick will convert from rgb to cmyk after saving the file from 
> Gimp.  If the above RGB 00 is used then it should convert to Cyan 
> (not exactly blue.)

Cheaper printers are RBY, not CMYK.  He never said he had an RGB
printer. (I don't think anyone even makes an RGB printer.)  My HP printer,
for example, had a Red-Blue-Yellow cartridge and a black one. I do have
another printer that is CMYK.

Best suggestion so far is to use the printer's clean mode.  Otherwise,
I don't see a big problem with a little bit of red leaking through.

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing only blue

[John Culleton]

On Tuesday 23 September 2008 05:20:47 am Torsten Neuer wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Am Dienstag, 23. September 2008 10:36:18 schrieb Dotan Cohen:
> > My printer has a stuck blue nozzle and I am trying to clean it.
> > Of the blue, yellow, red, and black cartridges, I want to only
> > print from the blue. I tried to configure a blue-255 colour and
> > the rest 0, however the printed image still uses a bit from the
> > red cartridge as the choice of colours differ from those in Gimp.
> > What colour could I configure, that would translate to blue only
> > from the printer?
>
> Printers are normally CMYK, not RGB. That is why ff will also
> utilize the other cartridges of the printer, not only cyan.
> You will therefore have to select 100% C from CMYK colourspace in
> order to only print from the C cartridge - which is a bit awkward
> in Gimp, since the program has no direct CMYK support.
> Nevertheless, you can do so with the colour selector (get to the
> printer colour selection mode for CMYK colours). The colour will be
> translated to RGB 00...
>
> HTH
>
>   Torsten

ImageMagick will convert from rgb to cmyk after saving the file from 
Gimp.  If the above RGB 00 is used then it should convert to Cyan 
(not exactly blue.)

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing only blue

[Kevin Cozens]

Dotan Cohen wrote:
> My printer has a stuck blue nozzle and I am trying to clean it.

The simplest solution is to run multiple cleaning cycles to clear the nozzles. 
I had an inkjet printer where multiple nozzles were clogged. It took about 
three or four of the printers built-in cleaning cycles to fully unclog all 
holes in all of the cartridges.

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing only blue

[Torsten Neuer]

Hello,

Am Dienstag, 23. September 2008 10:36:18 schrieb Dotan Cohen:
> My printer has a stuck blue nozzle and I am trying to clean it. Of the
> blue, yellow, red, and black cartridges, I want to only print from the
> blue. I tried to configure a blue-255 colour and the rest 0, however
> the printed image still uses a bit from the red cartridge as the
> choice of colours differ from those in Gimp. What colour could I
> configure, that would translate to blue only from the printer?

Printers are normally CMYK, not RGB. That is why ff will also utilize the 
other cartridges of the printer, not only cyan.
You will therefore have to select 100% C from CMYK colourspace in order to 
only print from the C cartridge - which is a bit awkward in Gimp, since the 
program has no direct CMYK support. Nevertheless, you can do so with the 
colour selector (get to the printer colour selection mode for CMYK colours).
The colour will be translated to RGB 00...

HTH

  Torsten


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[Gimp-user] printing only blue

[Dotan Cohen]

My printer has a stuck blue nozzle and I am trying to clean it. Of the
blue, yellow, red, and black cartridges, I want to only print from the
blue. I tried to configure a blue-255 colour and the rest 0, however
the printed image still uses a bit from the red cartridge as the
choice of colours differ from those in Gimp. What colour could I
configure, that would translate to blue only from the printer?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing in gimp..

[norman]

< snip >

> I'm pretty sure the same thing is true of the latest Fedora package for
> gimp 2.4.3.   But one can get the gutenprint gimp plugin which does the
> job quite well.  I bet that is available for ubuntu also.

As far as I know, it always has for Ubuntu.

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing in gimp..

[Sven Neumann]

Hi,

to shed some more light on the issue of how preview works with the GIMP
Print plug-in based on GTK+ Print, here's an excerpt from another mail
on this subject:

  We just hand-off printing (and previewing) to Gtk. Gtk then calls the
  appropriate pdf viewer. WHat is the "appropriate" previewer can be
  configured in .gtkrc-2.0 located in your home directory. 
  The important entry is:
 
gtk-print-preview-command="evince --unlink-tempfile --preview
   --print-settings %s %f" 

  the above line should work for most older versions of evince. Of
  course  you can also use other programs such as:
 
gtk-print-preview-command="gv %f" 

  or
 
   gtk-print-preview-command="xpdf -q %f" 

  Note that evince is preferred since gtk creates temporary files and 
  --unlink-tempfile tells evince to delete them. The other commands
  will keep those temporary pdf files around. 

Note that this is only true for printing on Linux and other UNIX
platforms. Your desktop may also override the settings in
your .gtkrc-2.0.

On Win32 things work differently. As far as I understand the default
viewer for metafiles is used for the preview. By default this seems to
be the "Windows Picture and Fax Viewer".


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-user] printing in gimp..

[Leonard Evens]

On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 19:00 +0100, Sven Neumann wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Thu, 2008-01-24 at 01:25 +0900, Choi, JiHui wrote:
> 
> > 1. in windows, gimp doesn't have print preview..
> 
> That's a problem of the GTK+ print system. The implementation on Windows
> is lacking some functionality. I am sure the GTK+ developers would love
> to get some help with that.
> 
>  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=376469
> 
> And some links to bug reports about problems with the Print preview on
> other platforms:
> 
>  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=491488
>  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=505453
>  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=509909
> 
> As you can see there is a lot left to be done.
> 
> > and in ubuntu, gimp doesn't have even print menu, either
> 
> The people who package GIMP for Ubuntu decided to build GIMP without
> Print support. If you want to know why, you got to ask them.

I'm pretty sure the same thing is true of the latest Fedora package for
gimp 2.4.3.   But one can get the gutenprint gimp plugin which does the
job quite well.  I bet that is available for ubuntu also.

> 
> 
> Sven
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] printing in gimp..

[Sven Neumann]

Hi,

On Thu, 2008-01-24 at 01:25 +0900, Choi, JiHui wrote:

> 1. in windows, gimp doesn't have print preview..

That's a problem of the GTK+ print system. The implementation on Windows
is lacking some functionality. I am sure the GTK+ developers would love
to get some help with that.

 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=376469

And some links to bug reports about problems with the Print preview on
other platforms:

 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=491488
 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=505453
 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=509909

As you can see there is a lot left to be done.

> and in ubuntu, gimp doesn't have even print menu, either

The people who package GIMP for Ubuntu decided to build GIMP without
Print support. If you want to know why, you got to ask them.


Sven


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[Gimp-user] printing in gimp..

[Choi, JiHui]

Hi, all
I have two questions.


1. in windows, gimp doesn't have print preview..
and in ubuntu, gimp doesn't have even print menu, either.

and I found gimp-print plugin. it's so cool.
but it doesn't install with gimp, although it is the official package.
why?

2. Is there no print preview plugin or something for windows?


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Re: [Gimp-user] printing

[Sven Neumann]

Hi,

one more thing that I forgot to say. Prior to GIMP 2.4 we basically
didn't have a Print dialog. We shipped with the plug-in that the
gimp-print (now gutenprint) project developed. On the Linux platform,
you can still get the Gutenprint plug-in for GIMP if you prefer that.


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-user] printing

[Sven Neumann]

Hi,

On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 20:19 +0100, norman wrote:
> I am using 2.3.18 

Please update to a newer version then, before anything else. If you are
using Ubuntu 7.10, simply installing the gimp package will get you GIMP
2.4rc3.

About the Print dialog. This dialog is platform specific and almost all
of it predefined by GTK+. If you want to discuss changes to the Print
dialog, please talk to the GTK+ developers.


Sven


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[Gimp-user] printing

[norman]

I am using 2.3.18 and like it very much so I decided today to have a
look at the printing setup. It is certainly very different from 2.2.X
and seems overcomplicated by comparison. I have been spoilt by having
all the settings on one page. Furthermore, the print preview does not
work and I assume that this will be rectified by the time we get the
official release. By the way I am using Ubuntu 7.10.

Norman

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing on DVD

[norman]

> > The printer I have is said to be capable of printing on a CD or DVD. I
> > wondered if it were possible to prepare and print images using Gimp and,
> > if so, how would one go about the task?
> 
> I use OpenOffice.org Draw to do that (and GIMP for any actual image work). 
> Draw lets you arrange shapes (circles, in this case) so that nothing prints 
> outside the outer circle, and nothing prints in the inner circle.

Thank you for that very useful information.

Norman

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing on DVD

[Bob Long]

- Original Message - 
From: "norman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> The printer I have is said to be capable of printing on a CD or DVD. I
> wondered if it were possible to prepare and print images using Gimp and,
> if so, how would one go about the task?

I use OpenOffice.org Draw to do that (and GIMP for any actual image work). 
Draw lets you arrange shapes (circles, in this case) so that nothing prints 
outside the outer circle, and nothing prints in the inner circle.

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing on DVD

[norman]

On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 21:04 +0100, norman wrote:
> > * norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [07-19-07 13:35]:
> > > The printer I have is said to be capable of printing on a CD or DVD. I
> > > wondered if it were possible to prepare and print images using Gimp and,
> > > if so, how would one go about the task?
> > 
> > no problem preparing the image/s, as to printing, hard to tell.  You
> > provide so much information...
> > 
> > Probably need to turn right at that corner.
> > 
> How right you are. I think it may be possible to actually print from
> Open Office or Turboprint the problem is getting the correct dimensions
> and the image in the correct place on the page.

As an addendum I have found a paper setting in the print menu, CD 5in
and further reading indicates that this should print to the CD or DVD
avoiding the centre hole and the edge. I must find an old disc and try
it and report back.

Norman

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing on DVD

[norman]

> * norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [07-19-07 13:35]:
> > The printer I have is said to be capable of printing on a CD or DVD. I
> > wondered if it were possible to prepare and print images using Gimp and,
> > if so, how would one go about the task?
> 
> no problem preparing the image/s, as to printing, hard to tell.  You
> provide so much information...
> 
> Probably need to turn right at that corner.
> 
How right you are. I think it may be possible to actually print from
Open Office or Turboprint the problem is getting the correct dimensions
and the image in the correct place on the page.

Norman

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing on DVD

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* norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [07-19-07 13:35]:
> The printer I have is said to be capable of printing on a CD or DVD. I
> wondered if it were possible to prepare and print images using Gimp and,
> if so, how would one go about the task?

no problem preparing the image/s, as to printing, hard to tell.  You
provide so much information...

Probably need to turn right at that corner.

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[Gimp-user] printing on DVD

[norman]

The printer I have is said to be capable of printing on a CD or DVD. I
wondered if it were possible to prepare and print images using Gimp and,
if so, how would one go about the task?

Norman

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing Gimp.app 2.2.11 OSX to Xerox Phaser 6100

[Axel Wernicke]

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Hi there,

I'm using gimp.app 2.2.11 too and printing works for me with a HP  
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Greetings, lexA

Am 21.01.2007 um 20:18 schrieb Matthew Polashek:

> Hi!
>
> I can't seem to print from Gimp.app to my Xerox Phaser 6100.  When I
> print with the default settings I get a client error bad request.
> Any ideas?
>
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[Gimp-user] Printing Gimp.app 2.2.11 OSX to Xerox Phaser 6100

[Matthew Polashek]

Hi!

I can't seem to print from Gimp.app to my Xerox Phaser 6100.  When I  
print with the default settings I get a client error bad request.   
Any ideas?

Matt
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[Gimp-user] Printing

[Bob Williams]

Hi,

I'm a newbie as far as GIMP is concerned, and I'm having trouble printing. In 
the setup printer dialog, my HP Photosmart 8150 is not listed as a known 
printer. I don't know where to find my printer's PPD file.

Can I edit the print command (currently lp -s -dp1 -oraw) to get some 
meaningful output?
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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing to non-epson printer

[John R. Culleton]

On Sunday 24 September 2006 10:54, Matthew Polashek wrote:
> I have been trying to figure out how to print to my xerox color laser
> printer.  Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks!
> Matt

In general Gimp is best used to create illos for documents/web
pages rather than the documents themselves. But you can save a
gimp image as PostScript (don't forget to zero out the offsets in
the print dialog) and then route that PostScript page to your
printer somehow. Alternatively you can incorporate the image in a
document type you know you can print and then print that document.  
MSWord comes to mind, if you are on MSWindows. 



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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing on CDs with the new gtk+ printing dialog

[Daniel Kasak]

Sven Neumann wrote:

ith an older Gimp 
allows me to print this CD cover. Any ideas?



You can install gutenprint if that gives you better results.


I also have this installed.


 You could
investigate the problem and file a bug report against GTK+. You can use
the stable GIMP that you should still have installed. Or did you
actually replace it with an unstable development snapshot?


I replaced it, but rolling back isn't too hard, and I have a lot of 
other PCs around I can use for now. I will investigate further and file 
a bug against gtk.


Thanks for the quick response :)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing on CDs with the new gtk+ printing dialog

[Sven Neumann]

Hi,

On Fri, 2006-09-29 at 09:20 +1000, Daniel Kasak wrote:

> With the old gimp & print dialog ( and with the help of a gimp plugin to 
> set up CD covers ), I've had great success in printing CD covers. After 
> a recent gimp update, the old print dialog has been replaced with the 
> new gtk+ one. I can't get it to print CD covers. It says:
> 
> Image width (11.1097 in) is larger than printable width (4.56944 in).
>
> I have selected the correct media type ( CD - 5 in ) and also selected 
> this in the 'page setup' bit. I've checked everything else in the print 
> dialog as well. Copying my gimp project to a PC with an older Gimp 
> allows me to print this CD cover. Any ideas?

You can install gutenprint if that gives you better results. You could
investigate the problem and file a bug report against GTK+. You can use
the stable GIMP that you should still have installed. Or did you
actually replace it with an unstable development snapshot?


Sven


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[Gimp-user] Printing on CDs with the new gtk+ printing dialog

[Daniel Kasak]

Hi all.

With the old gimp & print dialog ( and with the help of a gimp plugin to 
set up CD covers ), I've had great success in printing CD covers. After 
a recent gimp update, the old print dialog has been replaced with the 
new gtk+ one. I can't get it to print CD covers. It says:


Image width (11.1097 in) is larger than printable width (4.56944 in).

I have selected the correct media type ( CD - 5 in ) and also selected 
this in the 'page setup' bit. I've checked everything else in the print 
dialog as well. Copying my gimp project to a PC with an older Gimp 
allows me to print this CD cover. Any ideas?


Dan

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[Gimp-user] Printing to non-epson printer

[Matthew Polashek]

I have been trying to figure out how to print to my xerox color laser 
printer.  Any suggestions?


Thanks!
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Re: [ale] [Gimp-user] printing landscape on 3x5 cards

[Jim Philips]

On Tuesday 18 April 2006 09:56, Geoffrey wrote:
> Jim Philips wrote:
> > On Monday 17 April 2006 21:14, Geoffrey wrote:
> >> David Lee wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 08:37:17 -0400 Jim Philips
> >>>
> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  I have some 3x5 templates in .png format that I downloaded. I want
>  to print them out in landscape format, because if I print them as
>  portrait my printer bracket won't come in tight enough to hold the
>  card in place. So, I open the .png in Gimp and flip it 90 degrees
>  and save it. I then try to print it from Gimp, with 3x5 specified
>  as the paper size. What gets printed is a long string of raw
>  Postscript and nothing else. I have to kill the print job. I'm
>  using Gimp 2.2.10 with CUPS 1.1.23 on a Slackware box. Any clues as
>  to what is wrong? Am I using a crappy print driver? The printer is
>  an Epson C-62 inkjet. It prints without problems otherwise, even
>  some 3x5 cards in landscape. But those are from a Web page where
>  formatting is enforced by CSS.
> >>>
> >>> I believe you will need to pick "setup printer" from the print dialog
> >>> and pick the type of printer you are using.  This is what did the
> >>> trick for me.
> >>
> >> One thing I recall about the GIMP is that it wants a non compressed ppd
> >> file.  What I've had to do is go to the directory where they exist and
> >> unpack the file there.  Make sure you retain the gunzipped version
> >> though because other applications look for it.  For example, for my
> >> Minolta laser I have the following ppd files:
> >>
> >> /usr/share/cups/model/Minolta-magicolor_2300_DL.ppd
> >> /usr/share/cups/model/Minolta-magicolor_2300_DL.ppd.gz
> >>
> >> You set this in the setup printer dialog of GIMP David has mentioned.
> >
> > OK. I found the .ppd file and created an unzipped version. It made no
> > difference.
>
> What distro is this?  Did you use the setup printer option in gimp to
> make sure it's pointed to the proper ppd file?

This is Slackware current. I went through the printer setup and pointed to 
the .ppd file. It makes no difference in the output. The description of the 
problem I found indicates a conflict between CUPS way of defining landscape 
orientation and Ghostscript's way of defining it. I can modify the raw 
Postscript after saving the file as Postscript. And this offers some slight 
gain...but it still doesn't print my image properly. Anyway, this doesn't 
appear to be a Gimp issue. I believe I could reproduce the problem with any 
Linux app where CUPS and Ghostscript are handling the printing.
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Re: [ale] [Gimp-user] printing landscape on 3x5 cards

[Geoffrey]

Jim Philips wrote:

On Monday 17 April 2006 21:14, Geoffrey wrote:

David Lee wrote:

On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 08:37:17 -0400 Jim Philips

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I have some 3x5 templates in .png format that I downloaded. I want
to print them out in landscape format, because if I print them as
portrait my printer bracket won't come in tight enough to hold the
card in place. So, I open the .png in Gimp and flip it 90 degrees
and save it. I then try to print it from Gimp, with 3x5 specified
as the paper size. What gets printed is a long string of raw
Postscript and nothing else. I have to kill the print job. I'm
using Gimp 2.2.10 with CUPS 1.1.23 on a Slackware box. Any clues as
to what is wrong? Am I using a crappy print driver? The printer is
an Epson C-62 inkjet. It prints without problems otherwise, even
some 3x5 cards in landscape. But those are from a Web page where
formatting is enforced by CSS.

I believe you will need to pick "setup printer" from the print dialog
and pick the type of printer you are using.  This is what did the
trick for me.

One thing I recall about the GIMP is that it wants a non compressed ppd
file.  What I've had to do is go to the directory where they exist and
unpack the file there.  Make sure you retain the gunzipped version
though because other applications look for it.  For example, for my
Minolta laser I have the following ppd files:

/usr/share/cups/model/Minolta-magicolor_2300_DL.ppd
/usr/share/cups/model/Minolta-magicolor_2300_DL.ppd.gz

You set this in the setup printer dialog of GIMP David has mentioned.


OK. I found the .ppd file and created an unzipped version. It made no 
difference.


What distro is this?  Did you use the setup printer option in gimp to 
make sure it's pointed to the proper ppd file?



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Re: [ale] [Gimp-user] printing landscape on 3x5 cards

[Jim Philips]

On Monday 17 April 2006 21:14, Geoffrey wrote:
> David Lee wrote:
> > On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 08:37:17 -0400 Jim Philips
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I have some 3x5 templates in .png format that I downloaded. I want
> >> to print them out in landscape format, because if I print them as
> >> portrait my printer bracket won't come in tight enough to hold the
> >> card in place. So, I open the .png in Gimp and flip it 90 degrees
> >> and save it. I then try to print it from Gimp, with 3x5 specified
> >> as the paper size. What gets printed is a long string of raw
> >> Postscript and nothing else. I have to kill the print job. I'm
> >> using Gimp 2.2.10 with CUPS 1.1.23 on a Slackware box. Any clues as
> >> to what is wrong? Am I using a crappy print driver? The printer is
> >> an Epson C-62 inkjet. It prints without problems otherwise, even
> >> some 3x5 cards in landscape. But those are from a Web page where
> >> formatting is enforced by CSS.
> >
> > I believe you will need to pick "setup printer" from the print dialog
> > and pick the type of printer you are using.  This is what did the
> > trick for me.
>
> One thing I recall about the GIMP is that it wants a non compressed ppd
> file.  What I've had to do is go to the directory where they exist and
> unpack the file there.  Make sure you retain the gunzipped version
> though because other applications look for it.  For example, for my
> Minolta laser I have the following ppd files:
>
> /usr/share/cups/model/Minolta-magicolor_2300_DL.ppd
> /usr/share/cups/model/Minolta-magicolor_2300_DL.ppd.gz
>
> You set this in the setup printer dialog of GIMP David has mentioned.

OK. I found the .ppd file and created an unzipped version. It made no 
difference.
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Re: [ale] [Gimp-user] printing landscape on 3x5 cards

[Jim Philips]

On Monday 17 April 2006 21:14, Geoffrey wrote:
> David Lee wrote:
> > On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 08:37:17 -0400 Jim Philips
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I have some 3x5 templates in .png format that I downloaded. I want
> >> to print them out in landscape format, because if I print them as
> >> portrait my printer bracket won't come in tight enough to hold the
> >> card in place. So, I open the .png in Gimp and flip it 90 degrees
> >> and save it. I then try to print it from Gimp, with 3x5 specified
> >> as the paper size. What gets printed is a long string of raw
> >> Postscript and nothing else. I have to kill the print job. I'm
> >> using Gimp 2.2.10 with CUPS 1.1.23 on a Slackware box. Any clues as
> >> to what is wrong? Am I using a crappy print driver? The printer is
> >> an Epson C-62 inkjet. It prints without problems otherwise, even
> >> some 3x5 cards in landscape. But those are from a Web page where
> >> formatting is enforced by CSS.
> >
> > I believe you will need to pick "setup printer" from the print dialog
> > and pick the type of printer you are using.  This is what did the
> > trick for me.
>
> One thing I recall about the GIMP is that it wants a non compressed ppd
> file.  What I've had to do is go to the directory where they exist and
> unpack the file there.  Make sure you retain the gunzipped version
> though because other applications look for it.  For example, for my
> Minolta laser I have the following ppd files:
>
> /usr/share/cups/model/Minolta-magicolor_2300_DL.ppd
> /usr/share/cups/model/Minolta-magicolor_2300_DL.ppd.gz
>
> You set this in the setup printer dialog of GIMP David has mentioned.

OK. I went through the printer setup. Now I don't get the Postscript garbage 
when I print. What I do get is my printer attempting to print in portrait 
format even though the file is saved in landscape format. So, the next time I 
tried I went to the Image Output tab of the print dialog and changed it to 
landscape format. And voila! The garbage Postscript output returned. I don't 
have the ppd file, since I'm using Gimp-Print and it doesn't seem to need 
that. I found at least one indication in somebody else's post that this is a 
CUPS issue. Anyway, I'm still feeling thwarted.
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Re: [Gimp-user] printing landscape on 3x5 cards

[Geoffrey]

David Lee wrote:

On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 08:37:17 -0400 Jim Philips
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I have some 3x5 templates in .png format that I downloaded. I want
to print them out in landscape format, because if I print them as
portrait my printer bracket won't come in tight enough to hold the
card in place. So, I open the .png in Gimp and flip it 90 degrees
and save it. I then try to print it from Gimp, with 3x5 specified
as the paper size. What gets printed is a long string of raw
Postscript and nothing else. I have to kill the print job. I'm
using Gimp 2.2.10 with CUPS 1.1.23 on a Slackware box. Any clues as
to what is wrong? Am I using a crappy print driver? The printer is
an Epson C-62 inkjet. It prints without problems otherwise, even
some 3x5 cards in landscape. But those are from a Web page where
formatting is enforced by CSS.


I believe you will need to pick "setup printer" from the print dialog
and pick the type of printer you are using.  This is what did the
trick for me.


One thing I recall about the GIMP is that it wants a non compressed ppd 
file.  What I've had to do is go to the directory where they exist and 
unpack the file there.  Make sure you retain the gunzipped version 
though because other applications look for it.  For example, for my 
Minolta laser I have the following ppd files:


/usr/share/cups/model/Minolta-magicolor_2300_DL.ppd
/usr/share/cups/model/Minolta-magicolor_2300_DL.ppd.gz

You set this in the setup printer dialog of GIMP David has mentioned.

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing landscape on 3x5 cards

[David Lee]

On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 08:37:17 -0400
Jim Philips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have some 3x5 templates in .png format that I downloaded. I want to
> print them out in landscape format, because if I print them as portrait
> my printer bracket won't come in tight enough to hold the card in
> place. So, I open the .png in Gimp and flip it 90 degrees and save it.
> I then try to print it from Gimp, with 3x5 specified as the paper size.
> What gets printed is a long string of raw Postscript and nothing else.
> I have to kill the print job. I'm using Gimp 2.2.10 with CUPS 1.1.23 on
> a Slackware box. Any clues as to what is wrong? Am I using a crappy
> print driver? The printer is an Epson C-62 inkjet. It prints without
> problems otherwise, even some 3x5 cards in landscape. But those are
> from a Web page where formatting is enforced by CSS. 

I believe you will need to pick "setup printer" from the print dialog and pick 
the type of printer you are using.  This is what did the trick for me.

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[Gimp-user] printing landscape on 3x5 cards

[Jim Philips]

I have some 3x5 templates in .png format that I downloaded. I want to
print them out in landscape format, because if I print them as portrait
my printer bracket won't come in tight enough to hold the card in
place. So, I open the .png in Gimp and flip it 90 degrees and save it.
I then try to print it from Gimp, with 3x5 specified as the paper size.
What gets printed is a long string of raw Postscript and nothing else.
I have to kill the print job. I'm using Gimp 2.2.10 with CUPS 1.1.23 on
a Slackware box. Any clues as to what is wrong? Am I using a crappy
print driver? The printer is an Epson C-62 inkjet. It prints without
problems otherwise, even some 3x5 cards in landscape. But those are
from a Web page where formatting is enforced by CSS. 
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Re: [Gimp-user] printing from OSX

[Axel Wernicke]

Am 09.03.2006 um 09:57 schrieb Matthew Polashek:

I have a Xerox 6100 though and I havne't had the same success,  
though I did

install GIMP.app.  What did you select as a printer when printing?


Well, I get a pretty huge print dialog which contains a drop down  
list where I just select the printer of my choice by the same name as  
in OS X.

Which version of the gimp-app are you using?

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[Matthew Polashek]

I have a Xerox 6100 though and I havne't had the same success, though I did
install GIMP.app.  What did you select as a printer when printing?

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On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:57 , Axel Wernicke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:

>Hi,
>
>Am 09.03.2006 um 09:39 schrieb Matthew Polashek:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Is there any way to get GIMP for OSX to print to the standard  
>> printer I have set
>> up in OSX?  I have a Xerox 6100N Color Laser that I'd love to use  
>> with GIMP, but
>> I can't find a PPD for OSX.
>
>Why would you want to find yourself a ppd for GIMP printing? I just  
>downloaded gimp.app from gimp-app.sf.net and printing to the systems  
>default printer (HP Color Laserjet 4500DN) was no problem at all.
>
>leXa
>
>>
>> (I did find one for PPC linux, but it didn't work.)
>>
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Re: [Gimp-user] printing from OSX

[Axel Wernicke]

Hi,

Am 09.03.2006 um 09:39 schrieb Matthew Polashek:


Hi!

Is there any way to get GIMP for OSX to print to the standard  
printer I have set
up in OSX?  I have a Xerox 6100N Color Laser that I'd love to use  
with GIMP, but

I can't find a PPD for OSX.


Why would you want to find yourself a ppd for GIMP printing? I just  
downloaded gimp.app from gimp-app.sf.net and printing to the systems  
default printer (HP Color Laserjet 4500DN) was no problem at all.


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[Matthew Polashek]

Hi!

Is there any way to get GIMP for OSX to print to the standard printer I have set
up in OSX?  I have a Xerox 6100N Color Laser that I'd love to use with GIMP, but
I can't find a PPD for OSX.

(I did find one for PPC linux, but it didn't work.)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing success stories?

[Doug]

P.S. If like me you don't have any German, you'll need Babelfish
http://babelfish.altavista.com/
in order to understand the bug report form, but you can report in 
English and the reply comes back in English as well


HTH
Doug



Doug wrote:


Hi Paul,

Sorry you're not having much joy so far.
I don't know that I can offer any specific advice - I do remember 
suffering a similar problem to yours at first which did get resolved, 
perhaps by following the instructions in the manual religiously, but 
now I don't recall how. I do find the printed colours I get are a 
close match to the monitor - as judged by eye - although I agree, 
that's only an interim solution till there's  proper colour management 
in Gimp.


However, what I would recommend is submitting a bug report to

http://www.turboprint.de/feedback.html

The people there are very prompt in replying and helpful - I found, 
for example, that I could not print on two of the better quality Epson 
papers with my Epson Stylus Photo 2100; and within a few days received 
a new PPD file that solved it.


Hope you have some success!

Doug




Paul Waldo wrote:


Hi Doug,

I have been experimenting with TurboPrint and have not been very 
impressed with the results.  It is still better than the stock 
gimpprint, but my test image has a noticeable red-cast.  Can you give 
some more details on your results with TurboPrint? 
If it would give me Windows-quality prints, I would gladly pay them 
twice what they are asking, but so far it is really unusable for me 
:-(.  I don't see how they can expect decent color without having 
some kind of monitor profile in the loop... 
Any thoughts you have would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!


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[Doug]

Hi Paul,

Sorry you're not having much joy so far.
I don't know that I can offer any specific advice - I do remember 
suffering a similar problem to yours at first which did get resolved, 
perhaps by following the instructions in the manual religiously, but now 
I don't recall how. I do find the printed colours I get are a close 
match to the monitor - as judged by eye - although I agree, that's only 
an interim solution till there's  proper colour management in Gimp.


However, what I would recommend is submitting a bug report to

http://www.turboprint.de/feedback.html

The people there are very prompt in replying and helpful - I found, for 
example, that I could not print on two of the better quality Epson 
papers with my Epson Stylus Photo 2100; and within a few days received a 
new PPD file that solved it.


Hope you have some success!

Doug




Paul Waldo wrote:


Hi Doug,

I have been experimenting with TurboPrint and have not been very impressed 
with the results.  It is still better than the stock gimpprint, but my test 
image has a noticeable red-cast.  Can you give some more details on your 
results with TurboPrint?  

If it would give me Windows-quality prints, I would gladly pay them twice what 
they are asking, but so far it is really unusable for me :-(.  I don't see 
how they can expect decent color without having some kind of monitor profile 
in the loop...  


Any thoughts you have would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing success stories?

[Paul Waldo]

Hi Doug,

I have been experimenting with TurboPrint and have not been very impressed 
with the results.  It is still better than the stock gimpprint, but my test 
image has a noticeable red-cast.  Can you give some more details on your 
results with TurboPrint?  

If it would give me Windows-quality prints, I would gladly pay them twice what 
they are asking, but so far it is really unusable for me :-(.  I don't see 
how they can expect decent color without having some kind of monitor profile 
in the loop...  

Any thoughts you have would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!

Paul

On Monday 20 February 2006 7:38 am, Doug wrote:
> Hi,
> I've had much the same problem with Gimp 2.2.4 and the Epson Stylus
> Photo 2100 running under Linux Mandrake LE2005.
> However, while waiting for a proper colour management solution to arrive
> in gimp/gutenprint, in the interim I've been able to get a pretty good
> match between monitor and printer output  using  Turboprint
> (http://www.turboprint.de/english.html).
> The only thing is that it costs (30 euros, 39 dollars) for the full
> capabilities.
>
> Hope that may help.
>
> Doug
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