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nature other than crystals. Does anyone on the list
know of others?
Thanks!
Mike
[1] Houser, N., “Peirce, Phenomenology, and Semiotics,” The
Routledge Companion to Semiotics, P. Cobley, ed., London ; New
York: Routledge, 2010, pp. 89–100.
--
Joh
in the 1930s. It is a difficult book, but you can find the basics
summarised in several of my articles on my web page.
John Collier
Emeritus Professor and Senior Research Associate
Philosophy, University of KwaZulu-Natal
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: Charles Pyle [mailto:charlesp...@comcast.net
just hadn’t looked hard enough
for a selectionist explanation.
John Collier
Emeritus Professor and Senior Research Associate
Philosophy, University of KwaZulu-Natal
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: Gary Richmond [mailto:gary.richm...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 01 June 2017 11:19 PM
To: Peirce-L
I suspect you are right, Jon. I think this means that you would disagree with
Terry Deacon’s approach, which starts with icons and has the rest evolve.
Perhaps the origin of the first third is the beginning. Nothing is outside of
that. That would be a bit like some gnostic views.
Best,
John
some Peirce, are you also saying that Peirce never represented it formally, or
tried to?
Gary f.
From: John Collier [mailto:colli...@ukzn.ac.za]
Sent: 16-Apr-17 21:11
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e icon, but they
cannot be identical, as the correlates of a triadic relation must be distinct.
Gary f.
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Sent: 16-Apr-17 16:37
To: g...@gnusystems.ca<mailto:g...@gnusystems.ca>; 'Peirce-L'
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On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 4:37 PM, John Collier
<colli...@ukzn.ac.za<mailto:colli...@ukzn.ac.za>> wrote:
This is my understanding too, Gary F., though I have found the passage you
quoted
This is my understanding too, Gary F., though I have found the passage you
quoted from Peirce especially hard to parse formally.
The only time thee sign (I am assuming you mean representamen) might determine
the objects is when it is purely iconic. I take it that this is a trivial case.
Pierce’s arguments convincing about the
irreducibility.
John
From: Clark Goble [mailto:cl...@lextek.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 12 April 2017 1:47 PM
To: Peirce-L <PEIRCE-L@list.iupui.edu>
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Laws of Nature as Signs
On Apr 12, 2017, at 11:21 AM, John Collier
<colli...@u
Thanks for the references.
John Collier
Emeritus Professor and Senior Research Associate
Philosophy, University of KwaZulu-Natal
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From: Clark Goble [mailto:cl...@lextek.com]
Sent: Friday, 07 April 2017 6:30 PM
To: Peirce-L <PEIRCE-L@list.iupui.edu>
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, and I am still very doubtful
that he didn’t just goof on this whole issue because of a lack of understanding
of SM.
John Collier
Emeritus Professor and Senior Research Associate
Philosophy, University of KwaZulu-Natal
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: Clark Goble [mailto:cl...@lextek.com]
Sent
event – they don’t contain enough
information to compute this event, but the stories together do, assuming
determinism.
In any case, I don’t see the divergence Clark apparently sees in the use of the
concept of entropy.
John Collier
Emeritus Professor and Senior Research Associate
Philosophy, Univ
I have been able
to diagram this is with the triad as the object. But maybe that is just my lack
of imagination.
John
John Collier
Emeritus Professor and Senior Research Associate
Philosophy, University of KwaZulu-Natal
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From: Edwina Taborsky [mailto:tabor...@primus.ca
I am not very keen on multiple universes, though I readily admit different
metaphysical categories. But I think any deep difference is just talk.
From: Jon Alan Schmidt [mailto:jonalanschm...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 30 March 2017 3:33 PM
To: John Collier <colli...@ukzn.ac.za>
Cc: pe
Some points interspersed.
John Collier
Emeritus Professor and Senior Research Associate
Philosophy, University of KwaZulu-Natal
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: Jon Alan Schmidt [mailto:jonalanschm...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 29 March 2017 11:37 PM
To: tabor...@primus.ca
Cc: peirce-l
-language-sound-associations-meaning-linguistics
This means that many words have a non-obvious iconic character that goes beyond
their mere sound-feeling.
John Collier
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because it does not include a way of integrating itself into
a theory, for example, of how biological sub-systems may ‘signal’ other
sub-systems and generally of how representations could co-exist with atoms.
So Peirce rejected atomism as an explanatory principle.
John Collier
Emeritus Professor
.
John Collier
Emeritus Professor and Senior Research Associate
Philosophy, University of KwaZulu-Natal
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From: Jerry LR Chandler [mailto:jerry_lr_chand...@icloud.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 08 March 2017 6:51 PM
To: Peirce List <peirce-l@list.iupui.edu>
Cc: Benjamin Udell
it is a psychological issue, if people differ so much in this respect.
John Collier
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Philosophy, University of KwaZulu-Natal
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From: Benjamin Udell [mailto:baud...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 15 February 2017 8:16 PM
To: peirce-l
ce: Peirce is usually included among those who tried to combine
elements of empiricism and rationalism, though for my money he doesn’t fit
either camp very well
In any case, the recent attempts on this list to try to tie empiricism to the
use of the word are pretty poor examples of scholars
this means it is
logically impossible.
My point was exactly that the interpretants matter. You have actually confirmed
my point here that real and unreal are not binaries in their essence.
John Collier
Emeritus Professor and Senior Research Associate
Philosophy, University of KwaZulu-Natal
http
logic or
methodology, though I understand his politics tended to towards the
conservative. He didn’t write much about real political issues of his time, and
I doubt it was a major influence in his overall though.
John Collier
Emeritus Professor and Senior Research Associate
Philosophy
Jerry, I think we are using ‘empiricism’ differently. I was using it in the
classic form, not just to refer to anyone who uses the natural world as a
touchstone for clarifying meaning and discovering the truth. I am an empiricist
in this latter sense, but not the former.
John Collier
Emeritus
what I
call dynamical realism to structural realism.
John Collier
Emeritus Professor and Senior Research Associate
Philosophy, University of KwaZulu-Natal
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: Jerry LR Chandler [mailto:jerry_lr_chand...@mac.com]
Sent: Friday, 03 February 2017 2:35 AM
To: John Collier
know, the relativists focussed on and largely tried to reduce the
logical issues to sociological ones. Now that this project has largely failed,
perhaps there is room for my thesis again.
John Collier
Emeritus Professor and Senior Research Associate
Philosophy, University of KwaZulu-Natal
http
-Foundations.../0262570491<https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FConceptual-Foundations-Contemporary...%2F0262570491=KAQEcp75m>
by John C. Graves (Author)
Later posts were made along the same line as mine. So far I don’t see a
significant difference.
John Collier
Em
that there were
possible cases (but they are rather improbable). Lorenz came up with a real
case from studying problems in meteorology.
John Collier
Emeritus Professor and Senior Research Associate
Philosophy, University of KwaZulu-Natal
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
> -Original Message-
> From
to do this are
typically noted). There is supposed to be no creative writing, just reporting
wahat is said in identifiable sources. Both of these rules are often violated.
John Collier
Emeritus Professor and Senior Research Associate
Philosophy, University of KwaZulu-Natal
http://web.ncf.ca
). Unfortunately, to fully
understand what Sternfelt is saying and how it relates to Peirce requires
reading a good deal more in chapter 4 as well as chapter 3.
I am not sure that this solves the problem of the relation between Categories
and Universes, but it did help me.
John Collier
Emeritus
From: John Collier
Sent: Sunday, 16 October 2016 10:16 AM
To: 'peirce-l'
Subject: FW: [PEIRCE-L] was Peirce's Cosmology {and Pragmatic Maxim}
From: John Collier
Sent: Sunday, 16 October 2016 10:05 AM
To: 'Jerry Rhee' <jerryr...@gmail.com<mailto:jerryr...@gmail.com>>
Subject: R
, and that these are far outweighed
by partial versions (not to mention outright misunderstandings).
The non-existence of a single or best pragmatic maxim in Peirce makes Jerry’s
request of me impossible to satisfy., as I tried in a rather around about way
to explain.
John Collier
Emeritus Professor and Senior
or less that I didn’t notice.
This sort of thinking is found throughout Peirce’s writing. I don’t think there
are any grounds for controversy about that. The interesting thing to me, in
this case, is that it can be applied reflectively.
John Collier
Emeritus Professor and Senior Research Associate
as meaning, and it gives the
meaning of meaning, its final interpretant being the integrated whole of
meaning. However I think this would ignore its pragmatic aspect, which places
emphasis on doing things like making mean9ngs clear.
John Collier
Emeritus Professor and Senior Research Associate
Philosophy
I assume Peirce is distinguishing from Cartesian doubt. Genuine doubt has a
reason (or at least prima facie reason) for the doubt. Doubt based on mere
possibilities of something being false is not genuine doubt.
John Collier
Emeritus Professor and Senior Research Associate
Philosophy
I used Peirce’s ideas fairly prominently in my philosophy of science courses in
the 1980s and 90s. I also used his work to cast light on Kuhnian issues both in
my classes and in my doctoral dissertation. Although the last was accepted
enthusiastically, I continually got grumblings about how
STR. The famous British astronomer, E.T.
Whittaker argued for Lorenz’ approach as late as 1931, and didn’t eve n mention
Einstein. I haven’t seen it argued recently except to note that the way to
Quantum Mechanics might have been more straightforward if Einstein hadn’t come
up with STR.
John
science itself is in principle capable of meeting through it very methods.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus and Senior Research Associate
University of KwaZulu-Natal
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: Olga [mailto:peirce-l@list.iupui.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, 05 July 2016 11:35 PM
To: Gary Richmond <gary.ri
to make sense
of Dretske’s Knowledge and the Flow of Information). David Lewis’s work on the
conventionality of meanings in communication does seem to require something
like what you identify.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus and Senior Research Associate
University of KwaZulu-Natal
http
for this to happen)
John Collier
Professor Emeritus and Senior Research Associate
University of KwaZulu-Natal
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: Clark Goble [mailto:cl...@lextek.com]
Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2016 12:07 AM
To: Peirce-L <PEIRCE-L@LIST.IUPUI.EDU>
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Copula and Being
should have made it
clear that I was thinking in terms of causation as a process, not some general
unrestricted view of causation (which I don’t think exists, despite centuries
of philosophers trying to find one).
John Collier
Professor Emeritus and Senior Research Associate
University of KwaZulu
. This is
not quite the same as Peirce, but not so different to his pragmaticism either.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus and Senior Research Associate
University of KwaZulu-Natal
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: Helmut Raulien [mailto:h.raul...@gmx.de]
Sent: Friday, 20 May 2016 9:54 PM
To: John Collier <co
for successful reverse engineering.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus and Senior Research Associate
University of KwaZulu-Natal
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: Helmut Raulien [mailto:h.raul...@gmx.de]
Sent: Friday, 20 May 2016 6:28 PM
To: g...@gnusystems.ca
Cc: 'Peirce-L' <peirce-l@list.iupui.
(near) obsession with threes,
but it is also such an obvious error that I can't help but wonder if we are
missing something.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus and Senior Research Associate
University of KwaZulu-Natal
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
> -Original Message-
> From: Jerry LR Ch
I strongly agree, Jon. Reading meaning into artefacts of the representation is
not typically transparent. I would say that the whole symbol represents the
sign with its threefold character and that the node is not some separate
signifier. To put it on this level is, as you suggest, a category
certainly be a sign, but in the example coolness is a
sign of rain.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus and Senior Research Associate
University of KwaZulu-Natal
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: Tom Gollier [mailto:tgoll...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 3:26 AM
To: Peirce List
Subject: Fwd
was worried about that arises in the course of normal science.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus and Senior Research Associate
University of KwaZulu-Natal
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: Jerry Rhee [mailto:jerryr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 10 March 2016 9:15 PM
To: John Collier
Cc: Jerry LR Chandler
physicists up to
Einstein.
John
Sent from my Samsung device
Original message
From: Jerry LR Chandler <jerry_lr_chand...@icloud.com>
Date: 2016/03/10 00:07 (GMT+02:00)
To: Peirce List <peirce-l@list.iupui.edu>
Cc: Clark Goble <cl...@lextek.com>, J
part more than three decades later. The
linguistic creativity paper is part of that project.
John
Sent from my Samsung device
Original message
From: Jerry Rhee <jerryr...@gmail.com>
Date: 2016/03/10 09:40 (GMT+02:00)
To: John Collier <colli...@ukzn.ac.za>
Cc: Cla
and Linguistic
Creativity<http://web.ncf.ca/collier/papers/Informal%20pragmatics%20and%20Linguistic%20Creativity%20version2.pdf>,
South African Journal of Philosophy, 2014
John Collier
Professor Emeritus and Senior Research Associate
University of KwaZulu-Natal
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
explanation need not be a good
explanation, so we need more than inference to the best explanation to carry
out inquiry responsibly. There are no magic rules for finding the truth (or
“anything goes” as Feyerabend would say in his typically provocative manner).
John Collier
Professor Emeritus and Senior
in Husserl and
Peirce are quite different, for example. (I have always found Husserl’s
approach to psychologistic for my taste, or at least too reductive.) I think
Ransdell was correct in focusing on the differences with Peirce here.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus and Senior Research Associate
(typically at
least). I am unclear if Peirce had a similar view, but the quote Helmut gave
from Peirce does suggest that, in the setting aside of questions of reality.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus and Senior Research Associate
University of KwaZulu-Natal
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: Helmut
issues are at least partially independent.
Your hypothesis might be correct, but still not tell us very much about the
functions involved and their relations to each other.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus and Senior Research Associate
University of KwaZulu-Natal
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From
the differences have also become
more apparent.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus and Senior Research Associate
University of KwaZulu-Natal
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: Robert Eckert [mailto:recke...@mail.naz.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 January 2016 1:49 AM
To: peirce-l@list.iupui.edu
Subject
by eliminating some accidents of representation system.
That is just a guess on my part, though.
*From the Free Dictionary:
1.
a. The act of involving.
b. The state of being involved.
2. Intricacy; complexity.
3. Something, such as a long grammatical construction, that is intricate or
complex.
John Collier
to
explain why the problem seems intractable. Nut I don’t have the time to go into
this here and now.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus and Senior Rsearcch Associate, UKZN
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: Søren Brier [mailto:sb@cbs.dk]
Sent: Wednesday, 30 December 2015 4:33 PM
To: John Collier
of
emergence<http://web.ncf.ca/collier/papers/A%20Dynamical%20Account%20of%20Emergence.pdf>
(Cybernetics and Human Knowing, 15, no 3-4 2008: 75-100), among other places.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus and Senior Research Assoicate, UKZN
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: Jon Awbrey [mailt
helps, but there are
eleemtns of Peirce that I htrink are promising.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus, UKZN
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: Søren Brier [mailto:sb@cbs.dk]
Sent: Wednesday, 30 December 2015 8:23 PM
To: John Collier; Stephen C. Rose; Peirce List
Subject: SV: [PEIRCE-L] Triadic
to address; I don’t think they are a solution. Even if you take a
non-materialist view (idealist or neutral) there is still a problem of how
local consciousness emerges. But I think that from our previous discussions we
might disagree about that last point.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus, UKZN
and I am
not going to think that through right now.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus, UKZN
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: Jerry LR Chandler [mailto:jerry_lr_chand...@icloud.com]
Sent: Monday, 28 December 2015 9:51 PM
To: Peirce List
Cc: John Collier; Gary Richmond
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: signs
awake yet (still
drinking my morning cuppa), so I am not thinking this through right now, just
responding from habit. So I might change my mind about this, but I am pretty
sure I have Peirce right here.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus, UKZN
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: Jon Alan Schmidt
.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus, UKZN
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: Jon Alan Schmidt [mailto:jonalanschm...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 29 December 2015 5:28 AM
To: Edwina Taborsky; peirce-l@list.iupui.edu
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: signs, correlates, and triadic relations -
meta-languages
I had intended to send this to the list as well. But forgot. I see that Helmut
has addressed my concern in a post to the list that crossed mine to him.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus, UKZN
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: John Collier
Sent: Monday, 21 December 2015 01:36
To: 'Helmut Raulien
, the distinction between elementary signs
and composite signs have no basis in what exists; you would be making a
distinction without a difference, and thus containing no information.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus, UKZN
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: sji.confor...@gmail.com [mailto:sji.confor
indicate the same energy levels, and 2) isomers
of compounds when they are regarded just in terms of stoichiometric relations,
ignoring their chirality.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus, UKZN
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: Jerry LR Chandler [mailto:jerry_lr_chand...@me.com]
Sent: Thursday, 17
both existence (secondness ) and
interpretation (thirdness) as either "this" or "that".
John
John Collier
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> -Original Message-
> From: Jon Awbrey [mailto:jawb...@att.net]
> Sent: Sunday, 13 December 2015 1
more productive
than might seem at first. Nonetheless, it is a pretty radical idea in
epistemology at this stage. What I have called the effability issue is the
motivation for moving in this radical direction, since it seems to rule out
other kinds of ground for knowledge.
John Collier
Professor
a stronger form of the end of though, not just the end in our world, but, as
you suggest, across all possible worlds (assuming a rigorous notion of possible
worlds, perhaps of the form I have suggested).
In any case, we seem to be convergent on what Peirce requires.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus
Clark, List,
Just a couple of points to take up something that Clark says within the more
general context of logic and formal mathematics, and, in this case, its
relation to physics, but still very Peircean I think. See below.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus, UKZN
http://web.ncf.ca
the notion of complexly organized systems originated in
a lab in the building that held most of my classes, run by Lorenz - planetary
dynamics is another source).
John Collier
Professor Emeritus, UKZN
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: Jerry LR Chandler [mailto:jerry_lr_chand...@me.com]
Sent:
was right about this.
I could give a bunch of references to Peirce’s writings that support my
interpretation, but this is long enough already and I have to go shopping. I
hope it is at least close to sufficient to respond to your worry.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus, UKZN
http://web.ncf.ca
[John Collier] Part-whole relations and mereology in general only arise when we
get to what Peirce calls existence, i.e., seconds.
Part-whole relations are a deep component of one's metaphysical perspective.
Basically, that is irrelevant to what I was saying, and to Peirce's views on
firstness
Jerry, there is some very convoluted reasoning in this, but I will try to
explain. See interspersed comments.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus, UKZN
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: Jerry LR Chandler [mailto:jerry_lr_chand...@me.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 02 December 2015 6:57 PM
To: Peirce-L
Cc
to firsts, which is a violation of both the common sense and
technical notions of ‘structure’.
You are stumbling around in your own conceptual fog, and it isn’t nice to watch.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus, UKZN
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: sji.confor...@gmail.com [mailto:sji.confor
a second order property, and
then proving the ordinality. I addressed this before, but obviously you don’t
care about getting it right.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus, UKZN
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: sji.confor...@gmail.com [mailto:sji.confor...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
Sungchul Ji
Sent
Clark,
I share your scepticism about psychoanalysis
John Collier
Professor Emeritus, UKZN
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From: CLARK GOBLE [mailto:cl...@lextek.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 01 December 2015 4:48 AM
To: Peirce-L
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] signs, correlates, and triadic relations
reviewers have done
something similar).
John Collier
Professor Emeritus, UKZN
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: Clark Goble [mailto:cl...@lextek.com]
Sent: Monday, 30 November 2015 8:10 PM
To: Peirce-L
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] signs, correlates, and triadic relations
On Nov 30, 2015, at 10:50 AM
This can’t be correct, Sung, since you don’t distinguish between ‘exists’ (you
use it improperly) and ‘is real’. Firsts are real, but they don’t exist.
Seconds exist (and are real). Thirds are real, and may have a mode of existence
through seconds.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus, UKZN
http
the context it is
possible to select which usage Peirce makes in each case.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus, UKZN
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: g...@gnusystems.ca [mailto:g...@gnusystems.ca]
Sent: Thursday, 26 November 2015 4:14 AM
To: 'PEIRCE-L'
Subject: RE: [PEIRCE-L] signs, correlates and triadic
, because of the
role of logic in their views, but this seems wrong to me. Peirce was a
fallibilist sort of positivist, and Russell was an empirically oriented
Platonist.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus, UKZN
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: Clark Goble [mailto:cl...@lextek.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 24
ot
analytic that can be ascertained by reason. Empiricists like Locke (pretty much
-- he vacillates a bit), Hume and Mill deny this. But most rationalists allow
for empirical determination of classes of truths, whether for ontological or
epistemological reasons.
John Collier
Professor Emeritu
I wrote and Clark replied:
I think that rationalism normally and traditionally means
accepting that there are truths that can be known a priori that are not merely
matters of convention.
Maybe I am wrong, but it seems like those are two separate claims and they must
be
Yes, this agrees with my understanding, which has not changed, but has matured
and become more clear over time.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus, UKZN
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: Clark Goble [mailto:cl...@lextek.com]
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2015 9:46 PM
To: PEIRCE-L
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE
fallibilism and some
other isms he adopts are all tentative hypotheses rather than a priori truths,
as Gary recently noted.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus, UKZN
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
> -Original Message-
> From: Jon Awbrey [mailto:jawb...@att.net]
> Sent: Thursday, 19 Novemb
, but perhaps not Peirce, if you are right.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus, UKZN
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> -Original Message-
> From: Jon Awbrey [mailto:jawb...@att.net]
> Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2015 5:27 PM
> To: John Collier
> Cc: biosemiot...@lists.
antipsychologist position on logic
that is associated with the greatest logicians, and I think it very hasty to
adopt Stan’s classification of logic.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus, UKZN
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: Stanley N Salthe [mailto:ssal...@binghamton.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, 18 November 2015
cause expressing a concern here suggests that there is a difference that is
somehow informative. Since it isn't, I think that thinking about it (very much)
is a waste of time and effort.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus, UKZN
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: Jerry LR Chandler [mailto:jerry_lr_chand...
not unreasonable.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus, UKZN
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: Gary Richmond [mailto:gary.richm...@gmail.com]
Sent: October 29, 2015 4:43 AM
To: Peirce-L
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Peirce's categories
Jeff wrote:
If Redness is understood, in the first instance, as the result
their dynamics as very much like
that of solid material particles.
John Collier
Professor Emeritus, UKZN
http://web.ncf.ca/collier
From: Edwina Taborsky [mailto:tabor...@primus.ca]
Sent: October 20, 2015 9:36 PM
To: Helmut Raulien
Cc: cl...@lextek.com; Peirce-L
Subject: Re: Re: Open axiomatic frameworks
I like this. It agrees fairly well with my understanding of what Piaget was
trying to say. My feeling is that Peirce's notions. especially of the
interpretant in its manifestations (immediate, final, etc) should be relevant
to explication of the idea.
With respect to unfalsifiability, I think
Folks,
I am intrigued that this topic has kept on so long, but this response has
little to do with the concept I was concerned with. The use of “triggered” in
the second sentence is not correct for Piaget’s concept of instinct. It was
exactly the point of his introduction of the notion into
if they can’t be fully specified.
Messengers not blamed in my understanding.
John
From: Stephen C. Rose [mailto:stever...@gmail.com]
Sent: July 14, 2015 7:37 PM
To: John Collier
Cc: Peirce List
Subject: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Recently published: Hitler and Abductive Logic
I was merely being a messenger
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Sent: July 15, 2015 1:18 AM
To: John Collier; peirce-l@list.iupui.edu
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Recently published: Hitler and Abductive Logic
Dear John,
In the last paragraph of an extremely interesting text, A Theory of Probable
Inference, W4: 408-450 (1883); Peirce points that Side
Jeremy, I will try to answer.
From: Jeremy Evans [mailto:jeremy.ev...@me.com]
Sent: May 30, 2015 12:30 AM
To: John Collier; peirce-l@list.iupui.edu
Cc: Jeremy Evans
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] [biosemiotics:8690] Re: self-R
John, [Peirce-L] List
I found your post below fascinating and informative
: John Collier [colli...@ukzn.ac.za]
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 9:04 AM
To: Benjamin Udell; biosemiot...@lists.ut.ee; peirce-l@list.iupui.edu
Subject: RE: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:8690] Re: self-R
Ben, Lists,
I mean a historical individual with an origin and probably an end, localized in
space
...@lists.ut.ee
Cc: biosemiot...@lists.ut.ee; peirce-l@list.iupui.edu
Subject: [PEIRCE-L] Aw: [biosemiotics:8676] Re: self-R
Jeff, Lists,
John Collier wrote, that memory is not the same as same body. So, is
self-organizing (as phenomenon) the same as memory as phenomenon? There are
metal alloys
of us.
John
From: Edwina Taborsky [mailto:tabor...@primus.ca]
Sent: May 26, 2015 8:23 PM
To: John Collier; biosemiot...@lists.ut.ee
Cc: peirce-l@list.iupui.edu
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:8690] Re: self-R
I don't see an ecosystem as an individual but as a system, in its case, a CAS
mentioned (John).
Cheers,
Helmut
Von: John Collier colli...@ukzn.ac.zamailto:colli...@ukzn.ac.za
Helmut, Lists,
Some identifiable entities that have self-organizing properties like ecosystems
do not have clear boundaries in most cases. I developed the notion of cohesion
in order to deal
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