Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great but lost features

2004-03-18 Thread Dennis Saputelli
> The match is by designator which is what you would want I assume? yes, what else is there? :} ds Ian Wilson wrote: > > On 04:02 AM 19/03/2004, Dennis Saputelli said: > > >in 99SE you don't need any specific lib opened to load a > >netlist > >we often use orcad netlists wher NONE of the foo

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great but lost features

2004-03-18 Thread Ian Wilson
On 04:02 AM 19/03/2004, Dennis Saputelli said: in 99SE you don't need any specific lib opened to load a netlist we often use orcad netlists wher NONE of the footprints match any names that we will use in that case we just place them as we see fit and the netlist load succeeds without a perfect mat

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great but lost features

2004-03-18 Thread Dennis Saputelli
in 99SE you don't need any specific lib opened to load a netlist we often use orcad netlists wher NONE of the footprints match any names that we will use in that case we just place them as we see fit and the netlist load succeeds without a perfect match this is an appropriate working method at

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,butt....I am having reservations

2004-03-18 Thread edsi
I will respond to both Tony and Ian TONY and IAN you are both right the class can be shown , with the inpector, and pcb panel up. But not ALWAYS in less keystrokes What I have foundis ...the inpector will not always come up with a right dialog.If it comes up blank ,you have to l

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,butt....I am having reservations

2004-03-17 Thread Tony Karavidas
type netname in the match attribute, 2 mouseclicks, done DXP 5 mouseclicks, Enter Try it. > -Original Message- > From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 8:21 PM > To: 'Protel EDA Forum' > Subject: Re: [PE

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-17 Thread Ian Wilson
On 02:34 PM 18/03/2004, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax said: At 04:56 PM 3/17/2004, Ian Wilson wrote: On 08:31 AM 18/03/2004, Protel Hell said: productivity, productivity, productivity those are the three things that need improvement in DXP This is an interesting comment. I don't like going back to P99SE for

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,butt....I am having reservations

2004-03-17 Thread Tony Karavidas
True!! :) > -Original Message- > From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 7:16 PM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,buttI am having > reservations > > On 01:15 PM 18/03/2004, Tony

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,butt....I am having reservations

2004-03-17 Thread Tony Karavidas
dnesday, March 17, 2004 7:18 PM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,buttI am having > reservations > > Tony, > Thanks for the info you are probably right about your > methods for netlist and text changes. > I am not too smart, I am b

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,butt....I am having reservations

2004-03-17 Thread edsi
Here is an analogy. I have a router and I want it connect Points A B C and D on a back plane in that order. I can write three lines of code to connect them, a forth line of code to define the layer and fifth line of code to tell it no vias or .I can take my mouse and manually route the tr

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great but lost features

2004-03-17 Thread edsi
Ian The buttons work the keys dont Mike -- Original Message -- From: Ian Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 14:29:52 +1100 >On 01:58 PM 18/03/2004, edsi said: >>Here are few missing featur

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great but lost features

2004-03-17 Thread Darren
Ian, The buttons work, but the shortcut keys don't, they have used the same keys twice, as in ALT O, was All Off, now selects the Other Layers listooop's Darren Moore > -Original Message- > From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On 01:58 PM 18/03/2004, edsi said: > >Here a

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,butt....I am having reservations

2004-03-17 Thread Ian Wilson
On 01:15 PM 18/03/2004, Tony Karavidas said: Mike, It can be done. Create you net class as you did. Then, go to the List window and type (ObjectKind = 'Net') AND (InNetClass('AD')) Or IsNet AND (InNetClass('AD')) (a bit less typing) Ian * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-17 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:56 PM 3/17/2004, Ian Wilson wrote: On 08:31 AM 18/03/2004, Protel Hell said: productivity, productivity, productivity those are the three things that need improvement in DXP This is an interesting comment. I don't like going back to P99SE for this very reason. I use DXP by preference, even

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great but lost features

2004-03-17 Thread Ian Wilson
On 01:58 PM 18/03/2004, edsi said: Here are few missing features in 2004 vs 99SE PCB Tonight's missing feature is: Option Layers, non of the short cut keys for ALLON ALLOFF work anymore. They are supposed to work but probably won't until service pack 2. So you have to click and pick each on

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,butt....I am having reservations

2004-03-17 Thread edsi
taining the >ratsnest, routes, DRC, etc to that object. Now THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE > >Tony > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Mike Reagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 2:26 PM >> To: 'Protel EDA Forum' >> Sub

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,butt....I am having reservations

2004-03-17 Thread Ian Wilson
On 09:25 AM 18/03/2004, Mike Reagan said: Ian I have been using 2004 for about three weeks and have found three global edits that the "new and improved" method can not handle. In 99SE I could create a net class called AD. If I wanted to show only the RATS nets for that class I could edit net AD

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,butt....I am having reservations

2004-03-17 Thread Brian Guralnick
CTRA output is great! IT now exports net classes. This is big > time! > > Mike Reagan > EDSI > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John A. Ross [RSDTV] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 4:59 PM > To: 'Protel EDA For

[PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great but lost features

2004-03-17 Thread edsi
Here are few missing features in 2004 vs 99SE PCB Tonight's missing feature is: Option Layers, non of the short cut keys for ALLON ALLOFF work anymore. They are supposed to work but probably won't until service pack 2. So you have to click and pick each one with your freaking little mouse.

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,butt....I am having reservations

2004-03-17 Thread Tony Karavidas
f 99SE once you get it. Try this with 99SE. Try hiding 1 big part such as a 1000 pin BGA while still retaining the ratsnest, routes, DRC, etc to that object. Now THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE Tony > -Original Message- > From: Mike Reagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, Marc

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,butt....I am having reservations

2004-03-17 Thread Tony Karavidas
se "Edit selected" The first one will open a drop box and you can choose True or False. Tony > -Original Message- > From: Mike Reagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 2:26 PM > To: 'Protel EDA Forum' > Subject: Re: [PEDA]

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,butt....I am having reservations

2004-03-17 Thread Mike Reagan
17, 2004 4:59 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, > -Original Message- > From: Protel Hell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 9:32 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, > > pro

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-17 Thread Protel Hell
eply-To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 21:58:43 - > -Original Message- > From: Protel Hell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-17 Thread Protel Hell
;Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'Protel EDA Forum' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 14:58:42 -0800 I was using P99SE. It was a challenge. Also knowing what I know now, I would have approached the design differently

[PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-17 Thread John A. Ross [RSDTV]
> -Original Message- > From: Protel Hell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 9:32 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, > > productivity, productivity, productivity > > those are the three things that

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-17 Thread Protel Hell
productivity, productivity, productivity those are the three things that need improvement in DXP From: "Brooks,Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'Protel EDA Forum' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [PEDA

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-11 Thread bob stephens
The American version is "Don't get your panties all in a bunch" Bob -Original Message- From: Dom Bragge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 3:57 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, --- "Brooks,Bill"

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-10 Thread JaMi Smith
nal Message - From: "Brooks,Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, > I was using P99SE. It was a challenge. Also knowing what I know n

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-10 Thread Ian Wilson
On 08:54 AM 11/03/2004, JaMi Smith said: The real "charge" against me, if you will, was that I instigated and lead the "Revolt" against "ATS", and embarrassed Altium by asking questions both here in the PEDA Forum and in the original Yahoo! DXP Forum that they couldn't answer, with the result bei

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-10 Thread JaMi Smith
- Original Message - From: "Brooks,Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, > I was using P99SE. It was a challenge. Also knowi

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-10 Thread Dom Bragge
--- "Brooks,Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > was... but I can guarantee I won't 'get my knickers in a knot' > worrying about it. > > (I just love that one... 'Knickers in a Knot'... I heard that on TV > the other night ) Have you been watchin' Australian TV shows again Bill? You're startin

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-10 Thread Brooks,Bill
I was using P99SE. It was a challenge. Also knowing what I know now, I would have approached the design differently and might have placed higher in the rankings. But be that as it may, it was a good run for the money and I was in very good company at the time too. It was back in March of 2000 at PC

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-10 Thread JaMi Smith
y Karavidas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, > What, you're speechless? ;) > . . . * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-10 Thread JaMi Smith
- Original Message - From: "Brooks,Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, > Just an additional clarification Mike, > >

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-10 Thread JaMi Smith
- Original Message - From: "Ian Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 2:45 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, > On 08:17 PM 10/03/2004, JaMi Smith said: > <..snip..> &g

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-10 Thread John A. Ross [RSDTV]
> -Original Message- > From: Mike Reagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 6:01 PM > To: 'Protel EDA Forum' > Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, > > For those of you that dont know, we are honored to have > MASTER JED

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-10 Thread Abd ulRahman Lomax
At 10:08 PM 3/9/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you do something a lot and it used to take 5 keystrokes (or mouse clicks) in 99SE but takes 20 in DXP, to me that is a HUGE problem. Even if the new feature is 100 times more powerful (as in the case of the DXP's inspector versus 99SE's global c

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-10 Thread Tony Karavidas
What, you're speechless? ;) > -Original Message- > From: JaMi Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:16 AM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, > > > - Original Message - > From: "

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-10 Thread Brooks,Bill
2004 10:01 AM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, For those of you that dont know, we are honored to have MASTER JEDI Bill Brooks among us. Mr. Brooks was a top qualifier in the TOP GUN contest. Bill, wanted to ask was the training class worth it? We ha

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-10 Thread Mike Reagan
Untested in 2004 is the Autorouter. Since I purchased Konekt's router, I have been using it exclusively . I still do not have pair capability but Konekt is committed to making this feature available in the next few months. I would be interested to hear from anyone that has tested Protel 2004 ro

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-10 Thread Brooks,Bill
like.times UP!... All my best and in good humor. Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 -Original Message- From: Mike Reagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:01 AM To: 'Protel EDA Forum'

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-10 Thread JaMi Smith
- Original Message - From: "Ian Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 2:45 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, > On 08:17 PM 10/03/2004, JaMi Smith said: > <..snip.

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-10 Thread Mike Reagan
Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, In my case, we upgraded a few machines to get the latest PCB and schematic tools because the discount was available and I didn't hear too many complaints about the DXP software on the other forum... though the asking for help is constant... I

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-10 Thread Joe Sapienza
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, > Mike: > > Thanks for your review of 2004. It's good to hear something positive about > Altium and their products, for a change. Keep us posted as to which new > features are the best a

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-10 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
- Original Message - From: "Mike Reagan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, > Y'all > I started this thread and want to ass

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-10 Thread Brooks,Bill
510 -Original Message- From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 7:53 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, On 02:08 PM 10/03/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >Ian Wilson wrote: > >>I am intrigued by this. How do the p

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-10 Thread Mike Reagan
Y'all I started this thread and want to assure all of you that 2004 works much better than DXP. I too closed DXP away and never opened it again. I received the 2004 package two weeks ago, have finished 3 designs. There are some minor bugs I have found, but overall I was up and running in tw

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-10 Thread Brooks,Bill
to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 7:08 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, At 07:12 PM 3/9/2004, Brooks,Bill wrote: >Funny, I blame Microsoft for our acceptance of software with 'bugs' in it... >I tell you what... If I found bugs in somethi

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-10 Thread ajenkins
00 on a bad day, Protel is over an order of magnitude more expensive. aj > -Original Message- > From: Brooks,Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 7:12 PM > To: 'Protel EDA Forum' > Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, > >

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-10 Thread Ian Wilson
On 08:17 PM 10/03/2004, JaMi Smith said: <..snip..> BS! Absolute BS! Nick, Altium - You are not "giving" me anything! Ladies and Gentlemen, This is the only person that I know that has been tossed off an Altium forum. Some may say this is due to a conspiracy. I suspect it is due to simple ru

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-10 Thread JaMi Smith
t 6 months, are not entitled to what we paid for, and not entitled to a Printed Manual. And yes Altium, I would gladly accept your apology for treating your loyal customers this way. And please Abd, getting back to you, you are really not qualified to speak out on this issue, so please don't. Resp

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-09 Thread Ian Wilson
On 02:08 PM 10/03/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Ian Wilson wrote: I am intrigued by this. How do the people that haven't used something know it is not more (or less) productive than what they are using. That one is easy to answer. Go back and read the posts again. Almost every individual, inc

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-09 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:12 PM 3/9/2004, Brooks,Bill wrote: Funny, I blame Microsoft for our acceptance of software with 'bugs' in it... I tell you what... If I found bugs in something I bought from the grocery store... I would take it back. You wouldn't do that if you were hungry enough and there was no other groce

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-09 Thread hwasti
Ian Wilson wrote: I am intrigued by this. How do the people that haven't used something know it is not more (or less) productive than what they are using. That one is easy to answer. Go back and read the posts again. Almost every individual, including me, has indicated that they actually trie

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-09 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Ironic, isn't it, that this thread has been filled with sometimes harsh complaint, while the title is as it is. I look at my mail list and see, repeated over and over "2004 DXP Looks Great." I agree with that, as well as with some of the criticism here. Note that the criticism in this thread i

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-09 Thread DUTTON Phil
, Phil. -Original Message- From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 10 March 2004 12:19 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, On 12:16 PM 10/03/2004, DUTTON Phil said: >Bill, > >My DXP is still in >the box. <..snip..> &

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-09 Thread Darren
I have been through the learning curve with the beta testing, going back 2 years, for DXP and P2004, and I have still been using 99 also. With the changes now in 2004 I will now move to this new release, upgrade whatever you like to call it. As for the manuals, they are always great, but as D

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-09 Thread Ian Wilson
On 12:16 PM 10/03/2004, DUTTON Phil said: Bill, My DXP is still in the box. <..snip..> There are some good things in DXP, but there are many features that really don't seem to help my productivity. I am intrigued by this. How do the people that haven't used something know it is not more (or le

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-09 Thread Dennis Saputelli
Phil's comments pretty much sum up our findings, feeelings and experience too (except we never did Mentor) after a few whirls around our DXP is 'still in the box' too there's just never any time to lose getting up to speed and messing around with new ways of doing the same thing Dennis Saputell

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-09 Thread DUTTON Phil
ds, Phil Dutton CID -Original Message- From: Brooks,Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 10 March 2004 10:31 AM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, Hmmm... my 2 cents. (that's about what it's worth...) Bah...Protel has a following because

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-09 Thread Brooks,Bill
--Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 9:21 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Cc: JaMi Smith Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, There is an SP3 in Beta. My understanding is that Protel 2004 includes a lot more than SP3. There

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-09 Thread Brooks,Bill
L PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 3:06 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, John A. Ross [Design] wrote: >shows the actual level of >respect Altium has for its users, and they know that they will get away >with it, because of the amount of loyalists

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-09 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, > John A. Ross [Design] wrote: > > >

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-09 Thread hwasti
John A. Ross [Design] wrote: shows the actual level of respect Altium has for its users, and they know that they will get away with it, because of the amount of loyalists within the user community who will automatically defend them with tunnel vision. Lots of companies have that attitude. The

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-09 Thread ajenkins
Um, don't you mean P98 SP 12? > -Original Message- > From: JaMi Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 9:35 PM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Cc: JaMi Smith > Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, > > > This is kind of what I was tr

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-09 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
s the new features and/or Nanoboard (or whatever that is), could they please share their opinions/experiences with it? And please, no Newspeak... ;-) Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: "JaMi Smith" <[EMAIL P

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-09 Thread Kiba Dempsey
rmo Electron Corporation www.thermo.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2004 14:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, In a message dated 3/9/2004 7:34:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-09 Thread HxEngr
In a message dated 3/9/2004 7:34:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > After the piece of junk I > received in the guise of DXP, they would not be seeing a dollar out of > my pocket to evaluate a new product. I am certain that I am not the > only customer who feels that wa

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-09 Thread hwasti
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: There is enough improvement in 2004 that the term "Upgrade" is earned. Earned from whom? A company can call something a service pack, an upgrade, a totally new version or a totally different product and none of it has anything to do with reality -- only with marketing

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-08 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
[sigh...] At 09:34 PM 3/8/2004, JaMi Smith wrote: This is kind of what I was trying to address in the DXP Forum with a post there, before Nick stepped in and totally side-stepped the issue by telling me to go read a link. Pesky fellow, he, distracting us from our monomanias. People keep calling

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-08 Thread JaMi Smith
submitted, JaMi Smith - Original Message - From: "Ian Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, > On 03:03 AM 9/03/2004, Tony Karavidas said: >

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-08 Thread Joe Sapienza
, March 08, 2004 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, > On 06:18 AM 9/03/2004, Joe Sapienza said: > >Mike, > > > >You are getting me excited for when I get my copy. See what old age does, I > >get excited about software

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-08 Thread Joe Sapienza
From: "Mike Reagan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, > Joe > Calling the shots like I see them. One thing I noticed ...because I can > s

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-08 Thread Ian Wilson
On 03:03 AM 9/03/2004, Tony Karavidas said: I'm guessing they it's either a new purchase or he is paying maintenance. Tony This was made quite clear by Nick on the DXP list, wasn't it Tony. Full licenses get manuals, the upgrade issued to DXP license holders don't. At least this is what Nick Ma

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-08 Thread Ian Wilson
On 06:18 AM 9/03/2004, Joe Sapienza said: Mike, You are getting me excited for when I get my copy. See what old age does, I get excited about software. Precious little else to get excited about ... Ian * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMA

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-08 Thread Mike Reagan
: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, Mike, You are getting me excited for when I get my copy. See what old age does, I get excited about software. Joe - Original Message - From: "Mike Reagan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Protel EDA Forum&

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-08 Thread Joe Sapienza
ng to convince another company to switch to 2004 , it is that good > > Mike Reagan > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 11:04 AM > To: 'Protel EDA Forum' > Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-08 Thread Tony Karavidas
on). I am trying to convince another company to switch to > 2004 , it is that good > > Mike Reagan > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 11:04 AM > To: 'Protel E

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-08 Thread Mike Reagan
vidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 11:04 AM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, I'm guessing they it's either a new purchase or he is paying maintenance. Tony > -Original Message- > From: JaMi Smith [

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-08 Thread Tony Karavidas
I'm guessing they it's either a new purchase or he is paying maintenance. Tony > -Original Message- > From: JaMi Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 2:41 AM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Cc: JaMi Smith > Subject: Re: [PEDA] 200

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-08 Thread JaMi Smith
inal Message - From: "edsi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 1:48 PM Subject: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, > Bob > The software came by regular mail about 2 days from CA, USA. The manuals came separat

[PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-02 Thread edsi
t; >To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 5:52 AM >Subject: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, > > >> Hello All, >> I received my DXP 2004 and it actually looks pretty good. It arrived with >THIC

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-02 Thread bob stephens
: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great, Ok, so, you said that at 7:02 GMT, march 2, has your opinion changed yet? _ Brian Guralnick - Original Message - From: "edsi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-02 Thread Brian Guralnick
Ok, so, you said that at 7:02 GMT, march 2, has your opinion changed yet? _ Brian Guralnick - Original Message - From: "edsi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 02,