illusory
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 7 November, 2010, 9:54 PM
Anthony,
'Moving away from Buddhism' or 'enhancing Buddhism' are illusory conceptions.
--ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wu...@... wrote:
ED,
Mahayana has developed both Buddhist
this.
If you don't like roses because of its big thorns you won't ever had an
interesting woman in your life and instead a pretty doll to whom have sex.
Mayka
--- On Sun, 7/11/10, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from
ED,
Thank you for the interesting article. I read only page 1, but think it is good
enough.
I see. Tantra encourages ejaculation, while Taoism, injaculation. Which is
better? Still, the question remains: whether Tantra or Taoism, is it compatible
with Buddhism?
Anthony
--- On Mon,
With best wishes
Lluís
- Original Message -
From: Anthony Wu
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
Kristy,
I appreciate your candor and enjoy your stories. I understand you had
@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wu...@... wrote:
Kristy,
I appreciate your candor and enjoy your stories. I understand you had an
eventless nde, but colorful sex experiences. You should be satisfied. Why
should you question dharma, scriptures and the meaning of exitence?
I know sex climax
: Tuesday, 9 November, 2010, 7:24 AM
Anthony,
Life's like that; people are like that. So what?
--ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wu...@... wrote:
ED,
It violates Buddha's original teaching which says sex is a strong drag
to progress. (Don't worry, you are allowed
karma keeping you away from your heart's
desire.
--ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wu...@... wrote:
ED,
The point is they don't let you see and learn from.
Anthony
and
learn from. ;-) )
--ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wu...@... wrote:
Kristy,
I appreciate your candor and enjoy your stories. I understand you had an
eventless nde, but colorful sex experiences. You should be satisfied. Why
should you question dharma, scriptures
fine with me.
Be well..
Kristy
--- On Mon, 11/8/10, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 2:46 PM
Kristy,
I appreciate
: Tuesday, 9 November, 2010, 8:50 AM
Anthony,
Do you know for certain that monks in a monastery have had sex with 16 year old
girls?
If so, where did you get this information from?
Thanks, ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wu...@... wrote:
Edgar,
No, it is with a 16
November, 2010, 9:09 AM
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wu...@... wrote:
Yes, sex can be connected with spirituality, like you experienced, sometimes
you feel the disappearance of ego. But it is different whether it can
coexist with Buddhism.
Anthony, you mean: Should
, Anthony Wu wu...@... wrote:
Edgar,
No, it is with a 16 year old girl.
anthony
flordel...@btinternet.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 9 November, 2010, 4:32 PM
Anthony:
Is World of the Buddha a book?. Can you paste the link here. Thanks.
Mayka
--- On Tue, 9/11/10, Anthony Wu wu
have a good idea on what is permanent. In fact I have a list. It
changes every day.
...Bill!
From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Anthony Wu
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 4:57 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St
: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 9 November, 2010, 4:46 PM
Anthony,
Why do you think a monastery is different from any other place?
…Bill!
From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Anthony Wu
Sent
is advised. If not this-- something.
Take care..
Kristy
--- On Mon, 11/8/10, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 6:00 PM
Mayka,
Thank you for your compliments. That is the advantage of being a man of low
intelligence.
Anthony
--- On Tue, 9/11/10, Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com wrote:
From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
To:
Real food for thought.
Anthony
--- On Tue, 9/11/10, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 9 November, 2010, 11:51 PM
Spoiler: Humans tend to elevate some
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 10 November, 2010, 9:19 AM
Anthony,
I don’t know. That’s a good question. All I know is the list is correct each
day after I update it.
…Bill!
From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Anthony Wu
Sent
Of
Anthony Wu
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 6:16 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
Bill,
Of course, a monastry is different, as it is a place for sacred sex, in
contrast to an orgyhouse, where there is nothing sacred.
Anthony
so that you can tell us which pages is
written the tantric practice. Is this book written by the tibetans themselves
of by a westerner?. It's been noticeable to me that Publishers of the book
are from Canada and America and not from Tibet.
Mayka
--- On Tue, 9/11/10, Anthony Wu wu
. She played naive. Unless you're a Chinese spy to destroy the
Tibetans by creating a bad reputation for them using the tantric teaching.
Mayka
--- On Tue, 9/11/10, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas
those to flow within, and change over time, as everything does. As said before,
what works for others is completely fine with me.
Be well..
Kristy
--- On Mon, 11/8/10, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St
ED,
'Stink' is composed of chemicals all from aromatic groups. What is wrong?
Anthony
--- On Wed, 10/11/10, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 10 November, 2010,
@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Anthony Wu
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 5:43 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
Bill,
Whatever Dalai Lama says is sacred, because he is a Bodhisatva reincarnate. I
try to emulate him
Mayka,
You are right. Like they say, we kill two birds with one stone: have a good
time and learn zen.
Anthony
--- On Thu, 11/11/10, Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com wrote:
From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
To:
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wu...@... wrote:
Mayka/Kristy,
Not a single doubt you can be good friends. I benefit a lot from
Kristy's posts. That is a good example of sincerity, in contrast to
hypocrisy now so prevalent. Probably you have not noticed that one of my
motivations of my
, 12 November, 2010, 9:18 AM
Anthony,
That's the way human nature has evolved.
--ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wu...@... wrote:
ED,
You are saying (almost): everybody is a hypocrite. Is that the way the
world is?
anthony
, Anthony Wu wu...@... wrote:
ED,
Many oriental sentences are without subjects or objects. Bill is completely
adjusted to Thailand, and the zen way. They are very grammatical here.
Anthony
Bill,
Nice succinct answer.
And, question: Your zen-like statement in ungrammatical, without
:
Anthony,
That's the way human nature has evolved.
--ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wu...@... wrote:
ED,
You are saying (almost): everybody is a hypocrite. Is that the way the
world is?
anthony
Current Book
nature has evolved.
--ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wuasg@ wrote:
ED,
You are saying (almost): everybody is a hypocrite. Is that the way
the
world is?
anthony
ED,
Several ways to cure it:
- Zazen,
- Send them to Afghanistan to fight Mujahideen,
- An interview with Dalai Lama.
Anthony
--- On Fri, 12/11/10, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Zen] Would zazen cure their malaise?
To:
.
--ED
The Science of Why We Suffer
http://appliedbuddhism.com/2010/08/30/the-science-of-%E2%80%9Cwhy-we-suffer/
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wu...@... wrote:
ED,
I am 90% in agreement with you. That is the result of human's greed, aversion
and delusion.
Anthony
: How culture colors the way the mind works
http://ns.umich.edu/Releases/2003/Feb03/r022703a.html
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wu...@... wrote:
ED,
That is not the way it is. It is too complicated to explain, but the oriental
way is different from occidental. The former
this: ‘wood new no burn [question]’. How would you
say that in Finnish? …Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Wu
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 5:13 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
-pity (or envy) is what the Buddhist ‘suffering’ refers to – not
physical discomforts such as pain, hunger, etc…
…Bill!
From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Anthony Wu
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 4:51 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re
. That presents as little problem for computer programs…Bill!
From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Anthony Wu
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 5:23 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
ED/Lluis,
I
[mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Anthony Wu
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 11:42 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
Bill,
It does not matter whether 'ha' is a dialect or a standard word, though it is
in the textbook. My point
No wonder many Barques are independence minded. I hope not all of them.
Anthony
--- On Mon, 15/11/10, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 15 November, 2010, 12:50 AM
Lluís
- Original Message -
From: Anthony Wu
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
ED,
North Chinese is missing in the tree. They constitute majority Chinese
population, which have been
Of course, sit down and shup up are the happiest moment.
Anthony
--- On Mon, 15/11/10, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 15 November, 2010, 7:20 AM
Anthony,
When others sit down and shut up, those are the happiest moments for me…Bill!
From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Anthony Wu
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 6:32 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from SOt
o o o o o o o o o
In Stock.
Ships from and sold by Amazon.com. Gift-wrap available.
Want it delivered Tuesday, November 16? Order it in the next 19 hours and 49
minutes, and choose One-Day Shipping at checkout. Details
--- On Sat, 11/13/10, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
Bill sensei ED sama zen forum shabushabu.
--- On Tue, 16/11/10, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com
Subject: !QRE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 16 November, 2010, 12:12 AM
Bill sensei Zen Forum
Yes, he is a bridge between East and West, though a rather shaky one.
Nevertheles, he is erudite and smart.
Anthony
--- On Mon, 15/11/10, seacrofter001 seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: seacrofter001 seacrofter...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Zen] The Dalai Lama: A very earthly representative
To:
Mayka/ED,
Most of us are deeply bound by karma so that we are bored by 'just this'. I
believe we can find satisfaction by just sitting down and eventual
enlightenment, but we are way from that 'goal'. So perhaps Bill can improve his
way of teaching like guiding children away from their toys.
...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 17 November, 2010, 5:29 AM
What does Bodhidharma want, dear God, what does Bodhidharma want?
--ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wu...@... wrote:
Mayka/ED,
Most of us are deeply
The story of buddha holding up a flower was cooked up by a zen fan, out of thin
air. Nevertheless, it is a good story. I like it.
Anthony
--- On Wed, 17/11/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote:
From: billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW:
Chris,
I want you to post more. How do I upset you more?
Anthony
--- On Wed, 17/11/10, ChrisAustinLane ch...@austin-lane.net wrote:
From: ChrisAustinLane ch...@austin-lane.net
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 17
Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 2:20 PM
Kristy,
If karma did not exist, why were you born a smart woman, why I, stupid man?
What is a better
: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 18 November, 2010, 8:36 AM
:)
I shall try to make this effort of yours effective.
Thanks,
Chris Austin-Lane
Sent from a cell phone
On Nov 17, 2010, at 13:39, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
Chris,
I
the 'facts' better in a different circumstance.
A better theory for me than karma is no karma. No karma, no self, no theories,
Just THIS!
...Bill!
From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Anthony Wu
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 4:21 AM
To: Zen_Forum
Anthony,
‘Cooking it up’ is a good theory, and as good as the Vulture Peak version. The
important thing is that you liked it.
…Bill!
From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Anthony Wu
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 4:31 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
want Chris to post more, don’t tell him you want him to post more. That
won’t upset him.
If you want to upset him try making fun of his bicycle, or urge ED to post more.
…Bill!
From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Anthony Wu
Sent: Thursday, November
. They are not?
siska
From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Sender: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 05:30:31 +0800 (SGT)
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
ReplyTo: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
The story of buddha holding up
ED,
I would like to acclaim your words of wisdom(not joking). When are you going to
publish your Guide to Teacher-student Relationships? You can ask Dalai Lama to
edit it when he is in a humorous mood. If he lost his sense of humor for the
time being, don't let him touch your book.
BTW, you
Very good presentation.
anthony
--- On Fri, 19/11/10, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Zen] Zen Koan Practice
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 19 November, 2010, 12:02 AM
Zen Koan Practice
By Genjo Marinello, Abbot Dai Bai
. For me, these practices simply help refine my character and compassion,
so that I can focus on doing the right things in this life, rather than the
next.
Kristy
--- On Wed, 11/17/10, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon
, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 3:19 PM
Kristy,
I don't mean to start a new thread, but you can deny karma, as much as you do
Newton's
...@austin-lane.net
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 19 November, 2010, 9:28 AM
On Nov 18, 2010, at 16:23, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
Your action
ED,
Again I acclaim your good presentation on karma.
After all, what do you believe and act. Would you embrace Abrahamic religion to
enjoy bypassing of karma, and further 72 virgins?
Anthony
--- On Fri, 19/11/10, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com
Subject:
the audience.
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wu...@... wrote:
Chris,
You are not alone. We see the world the way it is because many don't believe
in karma, believe it can be invalidated one way or the other, or don't bother
to think about it at all.
Anthony
very close Jewish
friends, and last Thanksgiving, we shared their traditions. I practice zen
daily. For me, these practices simply help refine my character and compassion,
so that I can focus on doing the right things in this life, rather than the
next.
Kristy
--- On Wed, 11/17/10, Anthony Wu
: Saturday, 20 November, 2010, 9:23 AM
Anthony,
That’s me!
…Bill!
From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Anthony Wu
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 5:13 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
Chris,
You are not alone
, 21 November, 2010, 9:19 AM
Thanks,
Chris Austin-Lane
Sent from a cell phone
On Nov 20, 2010, at 13:03, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
Bill,
Chris' theory applies to you and Chris himself, but not to someone like Hitler
or Pol Pot. They committed atrocities without
Kristy,
The problem is the Pope still thinks the Old Testament, which is full of
horrifying stories, is part of Christianity. If I am wrong, please point it out.
Anthony
--- On Sun, 21/11/10, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com
Subject:
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wu...@... wrote:
Bill,
Chris' theory applies to you and Chris himself, but not to someone like Hitler
or Pol Pot. They committed atrocities without compunction. No suffering in any
part of their bodies and minds.
Anthony
As most of you already
...@yahoo.com
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 7:55 PM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
Hi Anthony,
I previously thought most, if not all, koans are made up stories instead of
real events. They are not?
siska
From: Anthony Wu wu
as a shield or a sword in such events is
the fault of mankind, but not necessarily the fault of God.
Kristy
--- On Sun, 11/21/10, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday
of karma?
I will look for the biography you mentioned. Thanks!
Kristy
--- On Thu, 11/18/10, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 18, 2010, 5:16 PM
,
Is this a koan too?
:-)
siska
From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Sender: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 05:35:26 +0800 (SGT)
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
ReplyTo: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
Siska,
Whatever
: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Anthony Wu
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 4:05 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
Bill,
I am shocked that you think karma can be invalidated by worshipping God!
Anthony
--- On Sat, 20/11/10
?
…Bill!
From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Anthony Wu
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 4:03 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
Chris,
If Hitler and Pol Pot were alive, they would not testify whether their
conscience
ability to shape the
lives of others. We help mold future events with our choices, decisions and our
behavior, while we are alive now. That is where history is written. For me,
this is where zen practice can guide us.
Have a great week
Kristy
--- On Mon, 11/22/10, Anthony Wu wu
to describe the same experience?
…Bill!
From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Anthony Wu
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:02 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
Bill,
I almost agree
...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Anthony Wu
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:35 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
Bill,
Before I answer your question, please answer the following first:
Who says even if God did not exist, we should create one.
Why did he say
AM
Bill / Anthony,
You did not ask me this, but now I'm curious. I thought that Blaise Pascal
wrote this. k
--- On Mon, 11/22/10, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date
JMJM,
Most of your remarks make sense. But there is a problem with the following:
Most of us consider kensho a result of stillness, but you think it the other
way around.
Yes, the Sixth Patriarch did not write, because he was unable to. He was
illiterate. That does not mean he did not want
ED,
Refers to zazen without any specific focus or technique. So JM's Heart Chan is
different, as he cultivates 'chi', instead of no technique. I think this is the
key point that zazen has no focus or technique, while sitting with other
schools involves manipulating chi, or concentration on an
domains do not
intersect. Let me share a phrase with you from one China man to another.
達摩祖師於其血脈論中說：「見性為禪，若不見性，即非禪 也。」又說：「性及是心，心即是佛，佛即是道，道即是禪。」
覺妙精明合十頂禮
禪宗第八十六代總教授師。
Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com
http://www.heartchan.org
On 11/23/2010 12:51 PM, Anthony Wu
they are).
AND ANYONE ELSE out there that speaks Japanese or Chinese, please feel free to
comment.
Thanks...Bill!
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Bill,
Then I answer you as follows:
We need a deterrent to make Hitler and the like gentle lambs, so that they can
be your companions on the way to heaven
from St. Thomas Aquinas
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Hi Anthony,
I think you're a good teacher.
siska
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patriarch (may I ask, ignorant of me, of which line? I
am used to the line of Kargyuptas. Tilopa, Naropa, Marpa, Milarepa. No much
more), just be dislexic?. Not so uncommon
All blessings have its hinderings.
With best wishes
Lluís
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: Thursday, 25 November, 2010, 8:56 AM
JMJM,
Do you have a reference to support you position that kensho is prior to
satori?
Thanks, ED
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JMJM,
You say: Kensho is resulted from sitting, which is a state before
Samadhi
I think
ED,
You say: if babies had no egos, the only babies who survived for more than a
few days would be 'buddhas' - and the population of human buddhas on this earth
would be nil.
--ED
Is there any logic in saying that? For someone of low intelligence, if the said
babies survive, the population
to
author James Ishmael Ford, Some trace the root of this word to the
pronunciation of the Pâli vipassana, though this is far from certain.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shikantaza
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Bill,
As I already said, shikantaza denotes
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Bill,
Then I answer you as follows:
We need a deterrent to make Hitler and the like gentle lambs, so that they can
be your companions on the way to heaven.
Anthony
Anthony,
My reading and yours is that samadhi precedes kenso/satori. I would like to see
how JMJM justifies his statement that kensho/satori precedes samadhi.
I am under the impression that Bill asserts that samadhi is no other than
kensho-satori.
--ED
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being is like the shadow of a
bird on water.
--ED
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Bill,
You got it wrong. Bodhisatvas advise you put the oxygen mask on other people
before you have it on yourself.
You have not answer whether you don't think preventing
Chris,
You are saying babies are good zen practitioners. As Jodi said, dogs are as
well.
Anthony
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blind because he tried to cure his miopy looking at sun,
as per a something that erases all dismissing mentions to it in internet
prayed.
With best wishes
Lluís
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in a position to help others before
trying to help.
I can’t give you a source but one quote I remember from somewhere is: ‘First
attain enlightenment. Then instruct all beings.’
…Bill!
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?
…Bill!
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Bill,
'First enlightenment, then help others' is Theravada philosophy. It is to some
mean?
Do you think these two terms describe the same experience?
…Bill!
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Bill,
'First
ED,
You should be excused for making a couple of harmless insults, because of your
capability to make such a wonderful presentation.
Anthony
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Subject: [Zen] Zen, Mythology, Mind-states and Faith
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In This Life - We ALL Can
http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com
http://www.heartchan.org
On 11/26/2010 2:17 PM, Anthony Wu wrote:
JMJM,
Energizing cells is different from saving sentient beings. Union with unversal
'chi' is a taoist idea, not buddhist. If you feel good about your approach
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Anyhony,
If you point out to me the 'insults', I will rectify the situation right
away.
--ED
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ED
for this, and it's probably
something to do with accusing the Chinese government of causing the emergency
by hijacking the aircraft.
...Bill!
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and religiously-incorrect questions may be
asked, with the view to clarify beliefs and deepen understandings.
--ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wu...@... wrote:
ED,
My word 'insults' is a general term, it can refer to past, present or future
actions. I don't know your past
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