Re: [Zope-dev] Branches finished for merging.

2006-04-27 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 27. April 2006 10:33:19 +0200 Lennart Regebro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 4/27/06, Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Getting rid of ZServer is a fine goal but as long as Twisted is much slower (from what I've heard) ZServer has to stay (ZServer is not subject

Re: [Zope-dev] Branches finished for merging.

2006-04-26 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 27. April 2006 00:17:18 +0200 Lennart Regebro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 4/26/06, Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What are the possible risks of those changes? What is the goal of this branch? Integration as an optional feature or replacement of ZPublisher/ZS

Re: [Zope-dev] Branches finished for merging.

2006-04-26 Thread Andreas Jung
risks of those changes? What is the goal of this branch? Integration as an optional feature or replacement of ZPublisher/ZServer? Andreas pgpPTbZIkg887.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zo

Re: [Zope-dev] favicon.ico for 2.10?

2006-04-24 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 24. April 2006 11:59:40 +0200 Lennart Regebro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I find all these errors that Zope can't find a favicon.ico pretty annoying. Can we put one into 2.10s root by default, or is that for some reason a bad idea? No objections. -aj -- ZOPYX Ltd. & Co. KG - Charlot

[Zope-dev] Zope 3 ZPT integration for Zope 2.10 needs more work

2006-04-22 Thread Andreas Jung
with some deeper ZPT insights could have look at the outstanding problems. Otherwise we must defer the Zope 3 ZPT integration until Zope 2.11...any volunteers? :-) Andreas pgpe2aFl059Nf.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev

Re: [Zope-dev] Trunk seems broken

2006-04-21 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 21. April 2006 18:08:38 +0200 Lennart Regebro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 4/21/06, Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My ajung-final-zpt-integration branch contains a version that does no longer require the Zope 2 TALES implementation (but uses the Zope 3 codebase

Re: [Zope-dev] Trunk seems broken

2006-04-21 Thread Andreas Jung
ethod. Should we really use Zope TALES with Zope3 page templates? My ajung-final-zpt-integration branch contains a version that does no longer require the Zope 2 TALES implementation (but uses the Zope 3 codebase)...but this branch needs some more work for 2.10. Andreas -- ZOPYX Ltd. & Co

Re: [Zope-dev] Traversal issue which affects Five

2006-04-21 Thread Andreas Jung
elease. Sure, in this particular case the issue is bug for Alec and Philipp, others consider it a feature :-) A behavior introduced because by some implementation bug is likely to be considered as a bug (this justifies the change in Five 1.3.3).... Andreas pgpTlCCX6KjWm.pgp Description: PGP sig

Re: [Zope-dev] Traversal issue which affects Five

2006-04-21 Thread Andreas Jung
ritical micro release. The general rule basically applies applies to really new features. If this patch is acceptable and useful for everyone affected (Alec?). Since I am not directly (or no more) affected by this issue others should vote for or against this change. So we're more pragmatic than

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2.9.3 release

2006-04-19 Thread Andreas Jung
provide an alternate implementation with the original lookup order, and make it pluggable? I agree that we should have a clear solution for this. I think Philipp explained the reasons for the change when I had some trouble which the lookup order as well. Philipp? Andreas pgpfxKlgt8X4q

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2.9.3 release

2006-04-19 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 19. April 2006 15:30:44 -0400 Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'll note that I have a client who can't move forward from 2.9.1 to 2.9.3 because the changes to traversal semantics in that release break every view lookup in the application (which was originally built on 2.8.x, and w

Re: [Zope-dev] Traversal issue which affects Five

2006-04-19 Thread Andreas Jung
ere is some consensus that a proposed solution solves the open problem. But I don't have to care about the progress of every ongoing issue. Andreas -- ZOPYX Ltd. & Co. KG - Charlottenstr. 37/1 - 72070 Tübingen - Germany Web: www.zopyx.com - Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Phone +49 - 7071 -

Re: [Zope-dev] Traversal issue which affects Five

2006-04-18 Thread Andreas Jung
(like "five:traversal") that use it. Thus, even a strict release manager might accept it. Am I strict? :-) Andreas pgpUImvsRhSjW.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-

Re: [Zope-dev] cvs.zope.org/Products -> svn.zope.org?

2006-04-17 Thread Andreas Jung
d up having most of the stuff on svn.zope.org as well... Andreas -- ZOPYX Ltd. & Co. KG - Charlottenstr. 37/1 - 72070 Tübingen - Germany Web: www.zopyx.com - Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Phone +49 - 7071 - 793376 E-Publishing, Python, Zope & Plone development, Consulting pgpHINWXWL

[Zope-dev] cvs.zope.org/Products -> svn.zope.org?

2006-04-17 Thread Andreas Jung
solution is to write a shell script that pulls the stuff manually from cvs.zope.org. Wouldn't it make sense to migrate the complete Products hierarchy from cvs.zope.org to svn.zope.org? Andreas -- ZOPYX Ltd. & Co. KG - Charlottenstr. 37/1 - 72070 Tübingen - Germany Web: www.zopyx.co

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: z3 server+publication refactor for z2

2006-04-13 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 13. April 2006 11:38:38 -0400 Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Florent Guillaume wrote: Hi, Sidnei has been working on the Zope 2 publication-refactor branch where he's allowed the use of the Zope 3 Twisted-based server, and of a

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: z3 server+publication refactor for z2

2006-04-13 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 13. April 2006 15:58:44 +0200 Philipp von Weitershausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think the "big" solution would take a considerable effort. It's less than three weeks before feature freeze. That is very little time even for the "small" solution. Big or small? Would this be an option

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: z3 server+publication refactor for z2

2006-04-13 Thread Andreas Jung
From: Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Philipp von Weitershausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sidnei da Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Florent Guillaume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: List Zope-dev Subject: Re: z3 server+publication refactor fo

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: z3 server+publication refactor for z2

2006-04-13 Thread Andreas Jung
hink the "big" solution would take a considerable effort. It's less than three weeks before feature freeze. That is very little time even for the "small" solution. Big or small? Would this be an optional and configurable feature or replacement of the current infrastruct

Re: [Zope-dev] z3 server+publication refactor for z2

2006-04-13 Thread Andreas Jung
nal feature as in Zope 3.2? If the implementation is half-backed then it will be a show-stopper, otherwise we need some confidence that it works as it should with breaking something. Andreas -- ZOPYX Ltd. & Co. KG - Charlottenstr. 37/1 - 72070 Tübingen - Germany Web: www.zopyx.com - Email:

Re: [Zope-dev] bug in trunk ZopePageTemplate.py?

2006-04-07 Thread Andreas Jung
some time. -aj ------- - Andreas JungZOPYX Ltd. & Co KG- - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.zopyx.com, www.zopyx.de - --- pgpdhrMIJiGfs.

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Test Summaries 2006-04-05

2006-04-06 Thread Andreas Jung
ermail/zope-tests/2006-April/004649.html zope-tests? I've never seen that list :-) But this reminds of that I am missing mails from the buildbotnobody broke the the trunk/branches lately? Unbelieveble :-) Andreas pgpJkV028Jox3.pgp Description: PG

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope2.8.7] with Five 1.0 or Five 1.2

2006-03-28 Thread Andreas Jung
haps it was worth being discussed :-) Andreas pgp6n95qYMaWD.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://ma

Re: [Zope-dev] Patch that makes the 'MS-Author-Via' header configurable in zope.conf

2006-03-27 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 27. März 2006 16:16:11 +0200 Patrick Decat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, two weeks ago, I submitted a patch against Zope-2.9.1 that makes the 'MS-Author-Via' header configurable in zope.conf ( http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1441 ) but I did not hear a single comment about it, s

[Zope-dev] [Zope2.8.7] with Five 1.0 or Five 1.2

2006-03-26 Thread Andreas Jung
problem involved and it is against the general rule for major upgrades of a package or product for a minor Zope release..I have no opinion on this issue...I just had this thought Andreas P.S. Zope 2.8.7 will be delayed so far for some days (until next weekend or so) pgpFnyeXV4cUM.pgp

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: SVN: Zope/branches/2.9/lib/python/ update to latest revision of ZODB 3.6 for upcoming release

2006-03-26 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 26. März 2006 14:31:25 -0500 Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Log message for revision 66185: update to latest revision of ZODB 3.6 for upcoming release Should'nt we be tagging a ZODB release for

Re: XML export/import is cool! (Was Re: [Zope-dev] Deprecating XML export/import?)

2006-03-26 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 26. März 2006 09:58:07 +0100 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks for the patch (commited for Zope 2.8, 2.9. trunk). This solves at least the import problems on my side. Unfortunately there are no tests for export/import so fixing issues is like flying blindfolded. Al

Re: XML export/import is cool! (Was Re: [Zope-dev] Deprecating XML export/import?)

2006-03-26 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 25. März 2006 21:40:48 +0100 Yoshinori Okuji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Saturday 25 March 2006 15:56, Andreas Jung wrote: Zope 2.7 throws a BadPickleGet, 12 exception, Zope 2.8 throws BadPickleGet, 13 and Zope 2.9 raises the described UnicodeDecodeError. I don't expe

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Wishlist Item

2006-03-25 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 25. März 2006 13:14:06 -0500 Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: FileSystemSite This is a repackaging of the CMF's FileSystem Directory Views such that it is independent of the CMF. CMF or not - if one need such a functionality one can download CMF or a related product. If such

Re: XML export/import is cool! (Was Re: [Zope-dev] Deprecating XML export/import?)

2006-03-25 Thread Andreas Jung
t be useful to perform any processing outside Zope but using it for re-importing it into another Zope systems definitely does _not_ work. So if the functionality should remain in Zope then it should be fixed for Zope 2.10 lately. Andreas pgpDsKQKSvaGQ.pgp Description: PG

Re: [Zope-dev] Deprecating XML export/import?

2006-03-24 Thread Andreas Jung
essary). Andreas --- - Andreas JungZOPYX Ltd. & Co KG- - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.zopyx.com, ww

Re: [Zope-dev] IMO ZClasses should stay

2006-03-24 Thread Andreas Jung
te ZClasses as an implementation solution to co-workers. ZClasses will stay for the time being but they should be regarded as a bad solution for new projects. -aj --- - Andreas JungZOPYX L

Re: [Zope-dev] Wishlist Item

2006-03-24 Thread Andreas Jung
-aj --- - Andreas JungZOPYX Ltd. & Co KG- - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.zopyx.com, www

Re: [Zope-dev] I agree that ZClasses should stay. I will volunteer

2006-03-24 Thread Andreas Jung
Rails is better, in some cases Zope3 is better". Different situations require different choices. This brings us back to the old discussion where we want to go with Zope in the future and what our target audience for Zope should/will be. I have some clear thought on that but that's

Re: XML export/import is cool! (Was Re: [Zope-dev] Deprecating XML export/import?)

2006-03-24 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 24. März 2006 18:09:36 +0100 Yoshinori Okuji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Friday 24 March 2006 17:33, Andreas Jung wrote: >> - it has no maintainer, nobody wants to touch it without gloves > > Is that any more true than for lots of other things? Right, but for dupli

Re: [Zope-dev] IMO ZClasses should stay

2006-03-24 Thread Andreas Jung
y the largest problem in the Zope 2 world right now. I do also prefer to spend my time on more interesting projects in the Zope world than digging through ancient, scary code. Andreas ------- - Andreas JungZOPY

Re: [Zope-dev] IMO ZClasses should stay

2006-03-24 Thread Andreas Jung
knows about the deepest internals. Andreas pgps7hMOuKggA.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zo

Re: [Zope-dev] IMO ZClasses should stay

2006-03-24 Thread Andreas Jung
? Your time and our time is very much limited. We should spend this time on useful Zope projects and not in supporting ancient concepts that don't help the majority of the Zope developers. Andreas --- - Andreas Jung

Re: XML export/import is cool! (Was Re: [Zope-dev] Deprecating XML export/import?)

2006-03-24 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 24. März 2006 11:07:06 -0500 Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: Zope supports the export of content either through Python pickles (.zexp) or as XML. Unfortunatly the XML export/import has several problems: - the generated XML is pretty much too low-level

[Zope-dev] Deprecating XML export/import?

2006-03-24 Thread Andreas Jung
ort/import. Comments? Andreas pgpWVI8dK9rj4.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/lis

[Zope-dev] Upcoming Zope 2.X releases

2006-03-24 Thread Andreas Jung
As announced earlier I plan to release Zope 2.8.7 and 2.9.2 by next Monday...so as always: any pending fixes should be commited until Monday. Andreas pgpnNv3KkZAp4.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http

Re: [Zope-dev] App.Product - distribution related code?

2006-03-15 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 14. März 2006 21:14:33 +0100 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: lib/python/App/Product.py contains code that deals *somehow* with "distributions" (whatever this means). Does any one know what this code is doing?...anyway this code uses the Python rotor module whic

Re: [Zope-dev] App.Product - distribution related code?

2006-03-14 Thread Andreas Jung
It seems to be ZClasses relatedso it can go :-) --On 14. März 2006 15:40:55 -0500 Chris McDonough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm not entirely sure what this code is. But I've never used it or seen anyone else use it. I suspect it can go. - C On Mar 14, 2006, at 3:14

[Zope-dev] App.Product - distribution related code?

2006-03-14 Thread Andreas Jung
lib/python/App/Product.py contains code that deals *somehow* with "distributions" (whatever this means). Does any one know what this code is doing?...anyway this code uses the Python rotor module which was removed in Python 2.4. This code is a clear candidate to be kicked... objections? -aj pgpX

[Zope-dev] [svn.zope.org] How to change the From: address for checkin notifications

2006-03-13 Thread Andreas Jung
Due to some changes in my email configuration I would like to use another email address for checkin notifications email other than the current one. Is there a way to configure this on my own or do I have to beg before the svn admistrator? Thanks, Andreas pgpxckMy3h2Un.pgp Description: PGP

[Zope-dev] Zope 2.8.7, Zope 2.9.2 schedule

2006-03-12 Thread Andreas Jung
I plan to release the next Zope versions around March 28. The release will basically contain newer Five versions. -aj pgpH0qawTOb9h.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-d

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2.9 releases for Windows?

2006-03-02 Thread Andreas Jung
one needs to be Manager to upload content to the Products area on zope.org. I would give the new window maintainer a local Manager role in this case...so who is willing to care about the future Windows build? I would like to see a longer commitment for this job. Thanks, Andreas p

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/trunk/lib/python/OFS/Traversable.py using startswith()

2006-02-28 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 28. Februar 2006 21:41:24 +0100 Philipp von Weitershausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Lennart Regebro wrote: -if name[0] == '_': +if name.startswith('_'): Just a question: Is this only a matter of stylistic changes, or is there some, like, speedup invol

Re: [Zope-dev] ZClass Replacement Volunteer

2006-02-28 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 28. Februar 2006 10:31:04 -1000 Christopher Lozinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am considering volunteering to rewrite ZClasses. Who do I speak to? You can basically start this as your own project. Starting Zope 2.10 are officially deprecated. Any new development for Zope 2 and 3

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Two visions

2006-02-28 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 28. Februar 2006 16:06:55 +0100 Philipp von Weitershausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think focusing on one app server and a dedicated set of libraries would be a good alternative to two concurring app servers. +1 -aj pgpe9Th17c7O9.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Two visions

2006-02-27 Thread Andreas Jung
n Zope 2. I still do not see that Zope 3 will provide everything we need to build large-scale applications. Having CMF 2.0 and having some future Plone version running on top I don't see that Zope 2 will fade out. Andreas pgpZGgNEj4Wvt.pgp Descriptio

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.8.6 and 2.9.1 schedule

2006-02-24 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 23. Januar 2006 21:37:10 +0100 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am plan to release Zope 2.8.6 and 2.9.1 in the middle of February (around Feb, 15th). Unfortunately I am currently too busy to do any releases right now. There are also some bug reports pending that sho

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.8.6 and 2.9.1 schedule

2006-02-21 Thread Andreas Jung
done --On 21. Februar 2006 08:00:47 +0100 robert rottermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: --On 23. Januar 2006 21:37:10 +0100 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am plan to release Zope 2.8.6 and 2.9.1 in the middle of February (around Feb, 15th). U

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.8.6 and 2.9.1 schedule

2006-02-19 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 23. Januar 2006 21:37:10 +0100 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am plan to release Zope 2.8.6 and 2.9.1 in the middle of February (around Feb, 15th). Unfortunately I am currently too busy to do any releases right now. There are also some bug reports pending that sho

Re: [Zope-dev] Introspector package in zope 2.9

2006-02-12 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 10. Februar 2006 18:06:53 +0100 Jean-François Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, I can't find the Introspector package in zope.app in 2.9 (Zope shipped with Zope-2.9.0.tgz) but can find it on svn. Forgot something ? Can you help? Thanks! This will be fixed in 2.9.1. -aj pgpq

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Release schedule and deprecation decisions

2006-02-05 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 5. Februar 2006 12:11:08 -0500 Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A while ago, we had some discussion on when to make releases and how long to support deprecated features. The discussion has died down so I'll summarize what I think the conclusions were: - We'll move releases up one

Re: [Zope-dev] No more access to username

2006-02-03 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 3. Februar 2006 23:22:00 +0100 Dieter Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Beat Rubischon wrote at 2006-2-3 14:10 +0100: Until Zope 2.8.3 it was possible to access to the name of the logged in user also in a public accessible method. .. This no longer works in Zope 2.8.5 (2.8.4 is unteste

[Zope-dev] Zope 2.8.6 and 2.9.1 schedule

2006-01-23 Thread Andreas Jung
I am plan to release Zope 2.8.6 and 2.9.1 in the middle of February (around Feb, 15th). Cheers, Andreas pgp4CgZl6DpmQ.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No

Re: [Zope-dev] [ZPublisher] specifiying 'charset' for the content-type header

2006-01-20 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 20. Januar 2006 10:03:03 + Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: set' set. A cool :-) Where's the code that checks if this header is present so I can take a look? ZPublisher/HTTPResponse.py (where else :-)) Oh :-S I was expecting a different patch... so this only affects c

Re: [Zope-dev] [ZPublisher] specifiying 'charset' for the content-type header

2006-01-19 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 19. Januar 2006 18:37:35 + Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: Ah, okay, and how would I indicate in my PythonScript return that I'm returning something different to what is specified in zpublisher_default_encoding? By setting the content-

Re: [Zope-dev] December release post-mortem

2006-01-18 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 18. Januar 2006 10:31:03 -0500 Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: ... The basic problem with the windows release is that there is currently nobody in charge for the windows release (although Tim is again doing working on the Windows side, ALL HAIL TIM).

Re: [Zope-dev] December release post-mortem

2006-01-18 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 18. Januar 2006 07:36:35 -0500 Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In the future, if someone introduces a major change, they *must* be committed to be available to deal with issues that arise during the release cycle. Perhaps we need to pick different release dates to avoid holidays.

[Zope-dev] Re: ZPT backward compatibility

2006-01-16 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 16. Januar 2006 13:36:32 -0500 Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There are two separate issues here: 1. ZPT backward compatibility. Are we introdcuting ZPT backward incompatibilities? (Aside from module paths)? My original implementation would introduce incompatibilitie

Re: [Zope-dev] Deprecation process issues

2006-01-16 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 16. Januar 2006 13:08:31 -0500 Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'll just note that: - I agree with your point about deprecation warnings. IOW we should not check in new deprecation warnings on the trunk that cause warnings to be output when running the standard tests. We s

Re: [Zope-dev] [Zope 2.10] ZPT going Unicode

2006-01-13 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 13. Januar 2006 13:25:19 +0100 Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: Thoughts? All these changes seem to be the right thing. This will make unicode life in Zope a lot easier. I worry about backward compatibility though. Some code (s

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-10 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 10. Januar 2006 12:20:14 +0100 Lennart Regebro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/10/06, Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This means basically keeping zLOG since it is only a very thin logging module wrapper. So why did we deprecate zLOG? :-) Did we? It was impl

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-10 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 10. Januar 2006 11:44:31 +0100 Lennart Regebro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't have an opinion on solution yet. What I want is something easy to use wher you can just import a log method or object and make a function. I don't want to set things up, because if we need to set things up

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-10 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 10. Januar 2006 11:09:32 +0100 Lennart Regebro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/10/06, Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This decision was made for Zope 2.8 (according to zLOG/__init__.py). How do you mean? As far as I can see, all the levels are still there in

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-10 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 10. Januar 2006 10:51:04 +0100 Lennart Regebro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I find all this fairly self-evident and highly useful, and se absolutely zero reason for removing them, when they are so useful. This decision was made for Zope 2.8 (according to zLOG/__init__.py). We're now wor

Re: [Zope-dev] zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 9. Januar 2006 20:06:09 +0100 Dieter Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> We'll have to check that. Support in terms of patches are welcome :-) The Zope specific interface for logging purposes is already there: You just want to deprecate and remove it. _We_ want to _cleanup_ things. The cu

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 9. Januar 2006 17:40:26 +0100 Florent Guillaume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9 Jan 2006, at 17:25, Andreas Jung wrote: --On 9. Januar 2006 17:06:25 +0100 Florent Guillaume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My point is that the python logging levels are insufficiently

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 9. Januar 2006 17:06:25 +0100 Florent Guillaume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My point is that the python logging levels are insufficiently fine grained. Sufficently enough for me. BLATHER & TRACE can be merged to DEBUG and PROBLEM to either WARN|ERROR. This should be even enough for Zope.

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: SVN: Zope/trunk/lib/python/StructuredText/ Sanely deprecate StructuredText by making it a facade of zope.structuredtext.

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 9. Januar 2006 17:00:13 +0100 Florent Guillaume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Log message for revision 41225: Sanely deprecate StructuredText by making it a facade of zope.structuredtext. Just to make sure: we didn't lose the "ReST allowed arbitrary f

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 9. Januar 2006 10:55:21 -0500 Fred Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/9/06, Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ZODB defines these levels but I can not see any code in the ZODB package that actually uses these levels. Nobody should be using the zLOG levels with

[Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 9. Januar 2006 16:35:31 +0100 Florent Guillaume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If that is the case then I intend to: 1. move the definitions of zope's specific levels (trace and blather) into a more prominent place (ZODB also defines these levels, but it has to be an independent package),

Re: [Zope-dev] Twice-annual releases and bugfixes?

2006-01-08 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 8. Januar 2006 17:49:01 -0500 Jeff Kowalczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What does the twice-annual release policy say about bugs and/or packaging errors that are identified and fixed within a very short time of the official release announcement? huh? I don't understand. Bugfixes will b

Re: [Zope-dev] zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-08 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 8. Januar 2006 20:58:19 +0100 Dieter Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung wrote at 2006-1-8 11:44 +0100: the zLOG module will be offically deprecated in Zope 2.10 (removed in Zope 2.12). New code _must_ use the 'logging' module of Python. And please hel

[Zope-dev] zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-08 Thread Andreas Jung
Hi all, the zLOG module will be offically deprecated in Zope 2.10 (removed in Zope 2.12). New code _must_ use the 'logging' module of Python. And please help to replace all outstanding code that uses the zLOG module on the _trunk_ (which is a fun job :-|). Thanks, Andreas pgplAWT

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: SVN: Zope/branches/2.9/ Move to ZODB 3.6 final.

2006-01-06 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 6. Januar 2006 10:49:29 -0500 Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't like using tags in externals. Each time an external is changed to a tag, svn creates .OLD directories and gets a new version. It's a real hassle IMO. I _like_ tags in externals because they are self-documenting

Re: [Zope-dev] [Zope 2.10] ZPT going Unicode

2006-01-06 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 6. Januar 2006 19:55:56 +0900 TAHARA Yusei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've tried to the branch and I found a typo in zope.conf. I think default-zpublisher-encoding is a correct directive name. This is already fixed. By the way, I have a request related to this changes. If the root

Re: [Zope-dev] [Zope 2.10] ZPT going Unicode

2006-01-06 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 5. Januar 2006 21:12:08 +0100 Dieter Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> - allowing only unicode textual content when calling macros, PyScript etc. definitely not. I know that this is a hard requirement but it is an implicit requirement in Zope 3. - converting non-unicode to unicode in

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope 2.10] ZPT going Unicode

2006-01-05 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 5. Januar 2006 17:36:45 +0100 Florent Guillaume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: ToDo: in-place conversion of persistent ZPT instance through setstate() or so... Could we avoid doing things in __setstate__ please? It imposes a runtime cost that doesn't disa

Re: [Zope-dev] [Zope 2.10] ZPT going Unicode

2006-01-05 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 5. Januar 2006 12:47:20 +0100 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As you might know I worked on the integration of the Zope 3 ZPT implementation for Zope 2.10. Before commiting the changes to the trunk I would like discuss my approach for Zope 2.10 I forgot to mention a

[Zope-dev] [Zope 2.10] ZPT going Unicode

2006-01-05 Thread Andreas Jung
iso-8859-15. I think it would make sense to change it to utf8. Otherwise we must explicitly set the content-type with charset=utf8 set. Thoughts? ToDo: in-place conversion of persistent ZPT instance through setstate() or so... Andreas pgp5yexs8WBFr.pgp Descri

Re: [Zope-dev] [ZPublisher] specifiying 'charset' for the content-type header

2006-01-05 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 4. Januar 2006 11:23:09 +0200 Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: No. Imagine a PythonScript that returns a unicode string. The ZPublisher converts the unicode string to latin1 (zpublisher_default_encoding). Most browsers will default Latin1 when they

[Zope-dev] Re: Directory structure on svn.zope.org

2005-12-28 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 25. Dezember 2005 18:48:22 +0100 Philipp von Weitershausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: The top-level directory structure on svn.zope.org appears a bit messy to me. There we have the folders for the "large" projects CMF, Zope, Zope3 and lots modul

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [ANN] Zope 2.9.0 beta 2 released

2005-12-27 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 26. Dezember 2005 14:49:07 -0500 Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jung wrote: on behalf of Zope Corporation and the Zope community I am pleased to announce the release of Zope 2.9.0 beta 2 (the x-mas release) Than

Re: [Zope-dev] [ZPublisher] specifiying 'charset' for the content-type header

2005-12-25 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 23. Dezember 2005 19:28:52 + Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The HTTP spec says that a http server *can* set the charset to make the encoding of the payload clear. That's what we are doing now. Not specifying the charset means for the browser: *guessing* the encoding which m

Re: [Zope-dev] Main repository on svn.zope.org now with fsfs backend

2005-12-25 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 25. Dezember 2005 12:48:38 +0100 Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, Just got finished migrating the main repository on svn.zope.org away from the old BDB backend to a FSFS backend. Some quick tests show me that everything seems to be in order, including sending of commit

[Zope-dev] Re: zope 2.9b2 and sessions

2005-12-23 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 23. Dezember 2005 12:06:06 +0100 Florent Guillaume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm in the middle of debugging important session machinery problems with the current zope 2.9 branch. (ReadConflictErrors happening when everything should be mvcc). Could the 2.9b2 release please hold until

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [RfC] Removal of old stuff in Zope 2.10

2005-12-22 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 22. Dezember 2005 12:44:23 -0330 Rocky Burt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, if we simply suck sqlite in as a build time requirement (during the 'make' process) do we care about importing non-ZPL code into svn.zope.org? We would only care about licensing when distributing binaries tha

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Product installation (implicit vs. explicit)

2005-12-22 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 22. Dezember 2005 10:46:42 -0500 Chris McDonough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What do Java people expect from jar files (I ask as a Java dope)? Do they have a more limited scope (no dependencies, for example?) Jar files have no dependencies. -aj pgpKlIVHcdQM0.pgp Description: PGP sig

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [RfC] Removal of old stuff in Zope 2.10

2005-12-22 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 22. Dezember 2005 11:42:30 -0330 Rocky Burt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When you mentioned before about importing sqlite into svn.zope.org, you were talking about actually including a snapshot of sqlite inside zope source rather than making it a build time requirement? I really don't c

Re: [Zope-dev] Modifiying the bootstrap Data.fs?

2005-12-22 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 22. Dezember 2005 09:48:01 -0500 Chris McDonough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: AFAIK, there is no Data.fs.in file anymore and the "OFS.Application" logic creates all the objects it needs at startup time. Quickstart text is in lib/python/App/dtml/zope_quick_start.dtml (it's not read from Z

[Zope-dev] Zope Book 2.7 edition

2005-12-22 Thread Andreas Jung
Chris, what do you think about moving the current version of the ZB hosted on plope.com back on zope.org. The quickstart page of Zope still points to the 2.6 edition. I would like to get of the 2.6 edition and call it just "Zope Book" + the data of the last modification. Since we can not synch

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [RfC] Removal of old stuff in Zope 2.10

2005-12-22 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 22. Dezember 2005 15:20:27 +0100 robert rottermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I perfectly agree with both of these arguments. However having a "dead easy to use" RDBMS tool is very convenient. Both for teaching and marketing purposes. I agree (meanwhile) but we have to sort out the

[Zope-dev] Modifiying the bootstrap Data.fs?

2005-12-22 Thread Andreas Jung
Does anyone know how to modify the bootstrap Data.fs that is installed after a new Zope installation and how to modify the Zope Quickstart page? -aj pgpOQIS1FhaaI.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.

Re: [Zope-dev] Product installation (implicit vs. explicit)

2005-12-22 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 22. Dezember 2005 09:09:02 -0500 Chris McDonough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The question is this: do you think there should be an explicit "install" step for egg packages/Products or do you think it should be possible to just put eggs on your PYTHONPATH (and perhaps adjust a config

Re: [Zope-dev] [RfC] Removal of old stuff in Zope 2.10

2005-12-22 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 20. Dezember 2005 16:41:37 -0500 Chris McDonough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Dec 20, 2005, at 4:22 PM, Paul Winkler wrote: But I'm not sure I understand you. Are you saying that in order to use Basket, my product can't call registerHelp()? Or are you saying that when installed via B

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [RfC] Removal of old stuff in Zope 2.10

2005-12-22 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 22. Dezember 2005 12:32:07 +0100 Tino Wildenhain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I dont think we should inlcude more 3rd party products into zope core unless they are required for core funtionality. And a random database adaptor isnt really core functionality. Another point: with Zope 2.10

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