Re: [AFMUG] 48VDC UPS?
This is a cool product I’ve been quoting to people. It is spendy, but certainly a telco grade solution. Web management, remote shutdown, smart battery controller, etc. 650W so you just add your own batteries. If you standardize on them, what is nice is they have a 24VDC option as well if you have a mix of 24VDC and 48VDC sites. Thank you, Daniel White <mailto:afmu...@gmail.com> afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84> LinkedIn: <https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84> Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 12:16 PM To: Animal Farm <af@afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] 48VDC UPS? I am looking for something like the DR-UPS40, which is 24VDC but in 48V. I found a HEP-600C-48 but it also is a lot more expensive than I want. DIN or standard case is fine. Does anyone know of something to fit this bill? I found a couple of things from Altech, RLH, and a couple of others but none I have used before. -- Lewis Bergman 325-439-0533 Cell --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Cordex PSU_Rev C.PDF Description: Adobe PDF document
Re: [AFMUG] Shielded keystone jacks
Jeremy, I’m lost. Why do you use shielded keystone jacks on every install? Use a surge suppressor on the outside of the house. Shielded cable to that. Unshielded cable from the surge suppressor to inside the house (I assume your installing a keystone jack in the wall, which is certainly above and beyond and a nice touch). I know most WISP’s pull the cable straight thru. When I was an installer I was a contractor (Mesa Networks didn’t use employee installers) and I would charge customers $15 to install a keystone and a faceplate. Took me maybe an additional 5 minutes, but customers loved how much nicer it looked and the ISP (Mesa) didn’t care. Was an extra $45 to $60 I made a day (and materials are cheap). Thank you, Daniel White <mailto:afmu...@gmail.com> afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84> LinkedIn: <https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84> Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded keystone jacks Nope, we use these on every install. We need cheap. On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote: If this is for a high density patch panel application, I guess I would tend toward Panduit. Good stuff, ain’t cheap though. http://www.panduit.com/heiler/InstallInstructions/N-COPN--399--RevG--ENG.pdf From: Josh Luthman <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 10:26 AM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded keystone jacks Line from the radio goes to your RJ45-ECS. The ECS in our case goes to our NEMA enclosure. If you're trying to a rackmounted patch panel the ECS isn't a solution, but I thought I'd offer my solution for this problem. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote: I have tried many and hated them all. Closest I found was some Signamax jacks I bought from Accu-Tech in Romeoville, IL. I’m not sure I follow what Josh is saying, but maybe same as what I would probably do. I know how to crimp on a shielded RJ45 plug, and they make shielded pass-through keystone jacks. Basically a panel mount inline coupler. From: Josh Luthman <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 10:07 AM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded keystone jacks If it's outside what I do is RJ45-ECS (they changed to shielded a while back, same part number) and that goes to a WB SS. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com <mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com> > wrote: I prefer Union Special Tech keystone jacks, but holy crap they are hard to find in the US! For their shielded jacks, they have a little lock ring that locks the cable down tight (strain relief), and provides an awesome ground. That strain relief looks like this http://www.netkey.ru/content/img/wmc_pictures/2008/9/img/kj2-c6-sh-f-wh.jpg That model is KJ2-C5E-FS, and I am having an extremely difficult time finding it. I have found these in the past for around $1 ea. All I am finding now are these crappy ones that I can't stand for around $2-3 ea. https://www.firefold.com/cat5e-keystone-jack-110-shielded?gclid=CIztiaGOrsgCFc-FfgodwGsLwg What are you guys using for shielded keystone jacks? Any good sources for them at reasonable prices? I am looking to buy 1000. I have contacted the manufacturer in Taiwan on multiple occasions and do not get a reply. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] reasonable request
Some ways to overcome the objection and keep an install fee… - Prorate a discount of $5 a month or something similar until it is paid back - One month free service after 12 months of service Either you can do without a contract. With a contract, you could do the 13 month is free or discount for the term of the contract. Financially it is the same as giving the install for free, yet it allows you to retain the install fee to prevent the non-payers from signing up and helps offset the immediate CAPEX cost. Of course if your billing solution allows for something like this to easily be implemented is a whole different story. Thank you, Daniel White <mailto:afmu...@gmail.com> afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84> LinkedIn: <https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84> Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 12:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] reasonable request My area is a lot of people that seem to be entitled about everything. They are cheapskates of all cheapskates. If they can get away with paying less they will. And the few customers I have that did pay a $50 install fee back when I charged it are the ones I have the hardest time getting to pay their bills. It is certainly different in every market. The vast majority of my customers are brand new families that are just starting out. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On Oct 6, 2015, at 10:39 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote: We overlap with Rise. They do free install + first month free. When I fire a customer for egregious nonpayment problems, I often see a Rise dish appear on their house. And then disappear a few months later. One former customer is on their 5th WISP dish on their house. Rise has installed and de-installed twice. If your area is very upscale, maybe what Mark says isn’t true. I am not so lucky, and my experience is similar to Mark’s. We will break the install fee into 2 payments if the customer makes a credible case they can’t pay it all at once, like retirees on fixed income. From: Mark Radabaugh <mailto:m...@amplex.net> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 11:28 AM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] reasonable request We have tried both free install, $25 install and $75 install. There is a significant correlation between the number of short term (<90 day) non-pay disconnects and the free or $25 install.Keeping the install high enough that the customer has at least some skin in the game makes a measurable difference. Mark On Oct 6, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com <mailto:tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> > wrote: I wasn't speaking globally. In our area the only company that is offering free installs is the one that can't seem to keep customers. -Ty On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Brett A Mansfield <li...@silverlakeinternet.com <mailto:li...@silverlakeinternet.com> > wrote: Companies that are hurting for customers are not the only ones that do free installation. I am not hurting for customers at all (I'd actually like to offload a few) and I do free installation. Anyone that has a quality product at the right price for customer and the ISP can afford to do a free installation because that customer will be very loyal and stay with you for a long time. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On Oct 6, 2015, at 9:47 AM, Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com <mailto:tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> > wrote: I basically told him just that. I told him the only providers giving away installations are those that are hurting for customers. I gave him all to positives about our company and service and told him I hope he finds what he is looking for from another provider. -Ty On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote: You can’t always get what you want. But if you try sometimes you just might find You get what you need. I would take the position that your service is the best available in your area, and it costs what it costs, no promos or freebies. If it’s the best, people pay your price on your terms to get it. You know all those 50 year old guys you see driving new Corvettes? Most of them have wanted one since they were 20 and kept asking the dealer when they were having a sale. So they drove Malibus for 30 years, until they paid the asking price for the Corvette. Do these guys walk up to supermodels and say “Hey, babe, if you’re ever giving it away, call me”? Does that ever work? And if it did work, would that change the desirability factor? I’ve had people like this ask once a year if we were having a promo or free installs yet and fina
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i
Exactly. At some point I’m sure the 450i will be required to take advantage of additional features… right now to me the major benefit is the dynamic filtering and expanded frequency range. Thank you, Daniel White <mailto:afmu...@gmail.com> afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84> LinkedIn: <https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84> Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 2:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Just going off what the webinar/demo customer said the 450i AP simply improves things as a drop in replacement. For newer AP it makes sense, for replacing and APs he did it with great improvements - but it doesn't sound like a good business case if the device is already generating revenue and working. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote: Are people intending to deploy the 450i for the additional frequencies, or other reasons? What about the 450D, what itch does that scratch for you, or do you just dislike reflector dishes? Before stocking 2 more types of equipment, I’m looking for ideas what other people are using these for. Like that tool you see in a catalog and wonder what it’s good for until you see someone else using it for something and go wow, I’ve got to get me one of those. From: Josh Luthman <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 12:27 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Some people have. Not me personally. Did you see the webinar? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Matt <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com <mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com> > wrote: Anyone deployed any 450i AP's yet? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review
I saw it yesterday. It was one of the best movies I have seen in a long time. Two thumbs up. Thank you, Daniel White <mailto:afmu...@gmail.com> afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84> LinkedIn: <https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84> Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2015 6:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review Martian Loved it. Much better physics than that silly George Clooney movie. And funny too. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?
With the speed package (I can pull up to 150Mbps down, but evening get 65Mbps or so) I have I can’t think of anything that has taken 2 hours to download… and realistically the servers are going to be your bottleneck anyways Thank you, Daniel White <mailto:afmu...@gmail.com> afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84> LinkedIn: <https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84> Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 1:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country? That's true but I'm saying that customers won't understand you can reduce it from 10h to 2h if you upgrade. Even if the few that understand were aware, they wouldn't shell out the extra money. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> > wrote: True, the only thing they'll notice with large downloads is that it says it's going to take 2 hours instead of 10 hours... realistically, it's probably not going to make any difference, since they'll just go to bed and it'll be done when they look at it again either way. On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: I really don't believe they'd notice a difference in large downloads. All they do is start it and walk away. I believe it's a line - a few seconds and I can use it or minutes/hours+ so they come back to it later. Fiber company down here in Dayton started up and just got their first condo/rental place. First customer was yesterday. Gigabit speeds (even though the speed tests in the video peaked out at 250 megs - probably our servers!) The comment that stood out was $75 is too expensive. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> > wrote: I have serious doubts that most people could even tell the difference between 10mbps and 50mbps without running a speedtest (aside from large downloads)... They just need to run speedtests constantly to make sure their evil ISP isn't cheating them. On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote: I am starting to hate the obsession with speedtests. Recently we cut the burst from 100 MBytes to about 6 MBytes (actually 8 seconds worth) at one tower while doubling everyone’s sustained speeds. Previously this tower had Trango APs and the highest burst speed you could get was about 8 Mbps, but when we upgraded to 450 the speedtests temporarily went to 30-50 Mbps. Of course we got whining from people who saw their speedtests drop to merely what they were paying for. Didn’t matter that we doubled their sustained speed, which is a huge deal for video streaming. And that speeds are consistent even at peak usage times. Plus a 6 MByte burst is enough that most websites should still load at max speed available. It’s like some people get Internet just to run speedtests, rather than real traffic. Are some people addicted to speedtest.net <http://speedtest.net> ? From: Daniel White <mailto:afmu...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 10:27 AM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country? Just got this… and yes this is my home internet connection I wonder what speed you need to get about the 85% benchmark. Thank you, Daniel White <mailto:afmu...@gmail.com> afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84> LinkedIn: <https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84> Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 8:45 AM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country? This was a speedtest taken by one of my customers this morning. The thing that surprised me was the 85% number. I’m not sure of the source of the data but if that’s correct, then there is a huge opportunity that we all need to be looking at. In this case, it’s a lowly Nanostation Loco M5 to an older XM Rocket. Even though there is about 40 customers on it, it wasn’t under a lot of load when this was taken. But the point is, 50Mbps is a relatively easy number to hit with 802.11ac and it also means, 85% of the country is where we need to be competing. Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO 4
Re: [AFMUG] SOHO Routers setting up in bridge mode
You have to imagine that most of these devices get installed on cable modems or DSL modems already doing NAT. So using this configuration, it resolves double NAT issues. Maybe just a better incentive to move into the managed router space. Plenty of compelling solutions out there now. Thank you, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 8:21 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SOHO Routers setting up in bridge mode > > Newer Netgear firmware when it detects the router is behind another router > will go into "Wireless AP" mode where all 5 ports are bridged and the > management IP changes from 192.168.1.1 to some 10.x.x.x address. I don't > know how it detects this, maybe when it gets an RFC1918 address via DHCP? > > I don't remember exactly the sequence how this takes place, I think I've had > to actually select Wireless AP from the GUI. And I would not expect it to > change on its own if the router has been configured, only when it detects > that it is in initial configuration mode (like after pressing the "Restore Factory > Configuration" button). > > > -Original Message- > From: Nate Burke > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 8:57 AM > To: Animal Farm > Subject: [AFMUG] SOHO Routers setting up in bridge mode > > I've been running into issues recently with SOHO routers deciding that they > need to be in Bridge mode instead of Nat Mode. It seems like there is > something with how they're detecting the connection when they're setup. > I'm not doing anything special. DHCP Assigns a Public IP Address from the > tower. Although it seems to be more of an issue with EPMP than FSK/450. > Has anyone else seen this, or Dug deeper into it? > > Last night I was working with a Customer who had an Netgear N300 that was > in bridge mode (Customer and router <1 week old). I had him Default the > router, and it came up in router mode (Single MAC in the bridge table, and > got a DHCP Lease). He said his computer was connected to the WIFI, but was > showing limited connection. He's never logged into the router, so I don't > think he changed the setup. This morning, it's back in bridge mode. I'm > sending him a RB951 to get him online, but why would the router choose > bridge mode? > > I think I've also seen this with a Linksys, but I thought the customer had done > something before I got there. Now I'm not sure. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?
Just got this. and yes this is my home internet connection I wonder what speed you need to get about the 85% benchmark. Thank you, Daniel White <mailto:afmu...@gmail.com> afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84> LinkedIn: <https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84> Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 8:45 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country? This was a speedtest taken by one of my customers this morning. The thing that surprised me was the 85% number. I'm not sure of the source of the data but if that's correct, then there is a huge opportunity that we all need to be looking at. In this case, it's a lowly Nanostation Loco M5 to an older XM Rocket. Even though there is about 40 customers on it, it wasn't under a lot of load when this was taken. But the point is, 50Mbps is a relatively easy number to hit with 802.11ac and it also means, 85% of the country is where we need to be competing. Rory Conaway . Triad Wireless . CEO 4226 S. 37th Street . Phoenix . AZ 85040 O 602-426-0542 www.triadwireless.net <http://www.triadwireless.net/> r...@triadwireless.net <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net> --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] Lets talk about Omnis
Alpha also makes a great 3.65GHz Omni (AW3089). Airspan and Telrad deployments significantly rely on them. If you’re doing 4x4 MIMO, you need to deploy two of them together. The tri-sector antennas are also pretty cool if you’re looking for the Omni footprint but performance of sector antennas. http://alphaantennas.com/ E-mail me offlist if you would like more information (or at dwh...@crossoverdistribution.com <mailto:dwh...@crossoverdistribution.com> ) Chuck makes a 5GHz omni that is probably worth your attention (and one specific for ePmP). Thank you, Daniel White <mailto:afmu...@gmail.com> afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84> LinkedIn: <https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84> Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 4:07 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Lets talk about Omnis >Friends dont let friends use omnis, but lets face facts, is a dick like me really capable of being a friend? >Whats good in the various bands/systems? >3ghz legitimate is going to be a dual slant (320/450) I assume We use a poleantenna from AlphaWireless which contains 3 slanted sectors. Much smaller footprint/windload than traditional sectors. >5ghz probably has a ton of options, 450/epmp is what Im ost concerned with, but UBNT M series is of interest as I understand AC stuff is still missing guts. You tested the latest 7.1.4 release ? Just did a short test which looks quite promising. Some things are realy improved. Airview without interuption in html is a real gain. The capacity readings seem to be accurate and match UDP Speed. Did only test with one cpe. Latency and TCP-Speed is great. >From a subscriber standpoint, assuming you can rotate 45 degrees, does dual slant matter? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar
It uses Sonar. Geesh. Thank you, Daniel White <mailto:afmu...@gmail.com> afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84> LinkedIn: <https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84> Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 10:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar OK. Why does it have a radar detector? Does it know that speeding is wrong? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Simon Westlake <simon@sonar.software <mailto:simon@sonar.software> > wrote: Yes, when it detects radar, it shuts down. On 9/29/2015 11:41 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: When is the release date? How much processing power does it take? How does it perform in the real world? Will it do DFS? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hah. Will it be more or less than Powercode? Will it be more or less than Platypus? On 9/29/2015 12:08 PM, Simon Westlake wrote: Yes, I can confidently say that it will cost more than Freeside. On 9/29/2015 11:07 AM, Vlad Sedov wrote: Is it more expensive than Freeside? ehheh Vlad On 9/29/2015 10:37 AM, Simon Westlake wrote: I'll be sharing stuff on the list, forum and blog as time goes on. Nothing just yet, but we are bringing the first few early access participants in who won't be in NDA, so they are free to share anything they want as well. No, it's all original code built on completely different technology than Powercode was. It's a very different platform. On 9/29/2015 10:35 AM, Steve wrote: Can we get any more details? Screen shots? Etas? Roadmaps? Like is this a fork of Powercode or from the ground up? - Original Message - From: "Simon Westlake" <mailto:simon@sonar.software> <simon@sonar.software> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 11:04:37 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar I don't dare ask which part. On 9/29/2015 9:39 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Reminds me of Silicon Valley. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 29, 2015 10:32 AM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com> <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com> >> wrote: Maybe he got good advice from a lawyer. I am not one but my understanding is that a noncompete can't be so broad as to prevent future employment, which moving out of the country would definably qualify as. On Tue, Sep 29, 2015, 9:19 AM Keefe John <keefe...@ethoplex.com <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com> >> wrote: Maybe he's operating from a moonbase...or russia. On 9/29/2015 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Wonder how Simon is getting around Bertram's 5000 mile non compete > exclusion zone? > > -Original Message- From: Keefe John > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 8:14 AM > To: Animal Farm > Subject: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar > > This website just popped up today. The product looks very exciting! > I can't wait to find out more about it. > > https://sonar.software/ > > https://sonar.community/t/announcing-sonar/30 > > > Keefe John > Ethoplex > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450d availability
They are here at the Cambium event. Very nice looking package. In-route in the same message I was told today. Thank you, Daniel White <mailto:afmu...@gmail.com> afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84> LinkedIn: <https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84> Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 2:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450d availability They said it was shipping last week. Should be at distributors in the next week or two from my understanding. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com <mailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com> > wrote: Anyone know when the 450d is going to be available in the wild? We have had an order in with Tessco for some time but haven't heard anything on shipping. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] PMB-1130 - PTP/PMP 100 End of Sale
I'm at a Cambium partner event right now. WISPAPALOOZA is going to be full of new product announcements. They are swearing most of what they tell us to secrecy (and Matt can chime in I'm sure when he is free) but 450 has a very healthy roadmap. I'm really digging the 450i platform. Thank you, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn: Twitter > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Bruce > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 2:13 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: [AFMUG] PMB-1130 - PTP/PMP 100 End of Sale > > Is anyone else annoyed by this end of sale for PTP/PMP 100? Do we get free > Vaseline shipped with the notice, or do we have to request it? > > I love the 450 platform and it is certainly superior, however I fear that > just like > 320, we won't be able to stock up on PMP 100 gear to last through the > complete migration to 450. Oh, and what about 5.2 GHz and > 900 MHz? 900 MHz is supposed to be coming soon, but who knows when > that will actually be. > > As tax for my whining, I present to you a short video on how I felt when I > couldn't buy more 320. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqRPOEa3P44 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee
You can always pay a bonus for completing a special project. Employees like that because it shows you appreciate them going above and beyond their job description, and in this case, keeps you out of any legal grey areas. Thank you, Daniel White <mailto:afmu...@gmail.com> afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84> LinkedIn: <https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84> Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 12:26 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee pay schedule mainly, substantially more than 10/50 but thats the crux there. He also wont offer that service as an employee directly since he paid for all the training to do it On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:45 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net> > wrote: if you're "letting him off" to do other work, but he's still your employee, how are you letting him off? i mean, he's still your guy, just doing a different job that may pay at a different rate ? - Original Message - From: That One Guy /sarcasm <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee How do you contract an employee but keep him on the clock during business hours if the concern is in your attendance policy and you don't want to poss off the other employees by letting him off all the time. On Sep 22, 2015 12:23 AM, "TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com <mailto:t...@voltbb.com> > wrote: I tried my best to comprehend your question / rant, but after several tries I realized your speaking in poop On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:16 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote: So if you have an employee who offers a service that you do not, but works a 40 on your clock how would you handle subcontracting his services on your clock? Just for easy numbers, say he's a ten dollar employee, but he bills at fifty. You need his services during business hours. You need to bill for it. Aside from the obvious separation issues, is this really all that complicated if you have an attendance policy this would interfere with? If he's on your dime as an employee, but also billing his contracted rate, say you're ok with the double dipping, where does the liability for the service lay? From the customers perspective, I assume it's simply on the boss. But at the end of the day, how would you handle, or not handle that, concessions to attendance? How do you deal with the other employees, or is it any of their concern? As a subcontractor, I assume you can make it sort of the contract that 'll work is represented as the employer -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee
Well Steve was pretty vague on this. Here is a good example. When SAF moved into both of their locations in Denver I did all of the structured cabling work. Clearly outside my job description, and I did it on my own time (well as an exempt employee, not sure that really exists :-). Company paid me a bonus, and they paid less than a contractor coming in and doing the work. Win-win for everyone. Of course Steve said the work would be done during normal hours. But once again, if you show your employees that if they go above and beyond and you will reward that (say getting a degree or learning new skills) that isn’t a bad thing overall. Makes your employees want to grow with your company – not get a degree and go seek higher pay somewhere else. Maybe if the work will be useful long term, just add the work to the employees normal course of work and give them a raise. Thank you, Daniel White <mailto:afmu...@gmail.com> afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84> LinkedIn: <https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84> Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 7:51 AM To: Animal Farm <af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee Wow. Massive can of worms opened. With the current attitude of most employees I think it won't be long before the employee believes his $10 an hour is more like a retainer to show up and be available to bill you $50 an hour for anything he does. I think I would fire him and contract him for $50 when I needed him. You might be surprised how seldom that is, and so would he. On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:16 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote: So if you have an employee who offers a service that you do not, but works a 40 on your clock how would you handle subcontracting his services on your clock? Just for easy numbers, say he's a ten dollar employee, but he bills at fifty. You need his services during business hours. You need to bill for it. Aside from the obvious separation issues, is this really all that complicated if you have an attendance policy this would interfere with? If he's on your dime as an employee, but also billing his contracted rate, say you're ok with the double dipping, where does the liability for the service lay? From the customers perspective, I assume it's simply on the boss. But at the end of the day, how would you handle, or not handle that, concessions to attendance? How do you deal with the other employees, or is it any of their concern? As a subcontractor, I assume you can make it sort of the contract that 'll work is represented as the employer -- Lewis Bergman 325-439-0533 Cell --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] GigE DC PoE Injectors
Lumina is power on all 8 wires. Same with Integra. 1, 3, 4, 7 are positive 2, 5, 6, 8 are negative Thank you, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 1:02 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE DC PoE Injectors > > Ken beat me to it. > > Oh, and I'm pretty sure SAF Lumina is only two pair power. And up to ~60 > watts on that. That's scary. > > On 9/14/2015 1:57 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Trango. At least ApexPlus, Lynx and Stratalink, I don't know about > > Orion and beyond. > > -48 on all 8 wires, return on shield (and tower steel). > > > > -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown > > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 1:51 PM > > To: af@afmug.com > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE DC PoE Injectors > > > > One of these companies lit up all 8 wires with one polarity and > > returned on the chassis. Perhaps Trango? > > > > -Original Message- From: George Skorup > > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 12:49 PM > > To: af@afmug.com > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE DC PoE Injectors > > > > There's no standard "standard" for all this stuff. 802.3at doesn't > > necessarily mean all four pairs are used for power. For example, Exalt > > ExtendAir G2 is 3at compliant and has return on pins 1&2, +48/56 on 4&5. > > Pretty sure the Cambium 450i is also only two pair power and 3at > > compliant. Very few radios use all four pairs, except for high power > > consumption stuff like AirFiber and some licensed radios (like Trango > > at > > 75 watts). > > > > On 9/14/2015 12:27 PM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. wrote: > >> Thank you for your response. I think my question did not go deep > enough. > >> > >> Here are some issue I have... > >> 1. I do not know if what PoE standards are used by the different > >> radios. As I am doing my research, I am seeing that there are 2 > >> standards 802.3af (2 pairs providing power?) and 802.3at (All 4 pairs > >> providing power?). > >> 2. I have 2 test sites that I am using to determine what I am going > >> to roll out to other sites. > >> a. Site 1 has a 48V power plant and a device like yours looks > >> like it could work (site has a proxim radio). > >> b. Site 2 has a 24V power plant (site has a AF24 radio). > >> > >> My SAF radios come with power injectors that allow me to input 24V or > >> 48V and output 48V to the radios allowing me to use those with > >> different power plants. My site 2 needs a power supply that can take > >> the 24V input and bump it before putting it on the line. > >> > >> Gilbert > >> > >> > >> On 9/14/2015 9:47 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > >>> http://www.mccowntech.com/gige-poe-apc-ethernet-surge- > suppressor-pro > >>> tector/ > >>> > >>> http://www.mccowntech.com/gige-poe-midspan-poe-injector- > ethernet-sur > >>> ge-suppressor-protector/ > >>> > >>> > >>> -Original Message- From: Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. > >>> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 10:45 AM > >>> To: af@afmug.com > >>> Subject: [AFMUG] GigE DC PoE Injectors > >>> > >>> I am moving many of my sites to DC Power Plants and need to find DC > >>> PoE injectors for the following radios... > >>> > >>> Proxim Tsunami QB-8200 (I believe the pinouts are the same as a SAF > >>> licensed radio) Ubiquit airFiber 24 > >>> > >>> These radios are all 48V input and I am looking for injectors to > >>> power them that will accept both 48V and/or 24V inputs. Does anyone > >>> have any suggestions? > >>> > >>> Gilbert > >> > > > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce
I’d drive my truck down there and fill up a trailer full of stuff all the time. Was nice having a big stocking distributor in your backyard. Thank you, Daniel White <mailto:afmu...@gmail.com> afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84> LinkedIn: <https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84> Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2015 4:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce In 2006? From: Jaime Solorza <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:21 PM To: Animal Farm <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce I had good service with ElectroComm On Sep 8, 2015 5:01 PM, "Jerry Head" <li...@blountbroadband.com <mailto:li...@blountbroadband.com> > wrote: Although I quit CTI over a year ago, Jonte was my guy and he was very good. Having said that, I will go back into the wrecker business before I trade with CTI again. I HATED the wrecker business On 9/3/2015 6:43 PM, Jon Auer wrote: I'm fairly happy with CTI (our rep: James until last year I think, and now Jonte) for cases where high-touch is OK. Ordering everything for a tower being built 3-4 months out with a licensed backhaul is a good example. In those cases a few clarifying phone calls and a email thread isn't the end of the world. They're pretty good to us and I have reasons to want to send them business. It's ordering the one-off/small project items that can be irritating. My usual order cycle is: email what I want (include exact part numbers), get a quote back, make sure the price is sane and part number is correct (if it's even listed), then email back saying yes, and it hopefully(1) shows up next day. 1) That's the part where things break down. I'm never sure if they have stock, are sending from a 3rd party (maybe a warehouse further away, maybe stock levels aren't in sync). Cambium is never a problem. Ubiquiti is hit and miss, other things, vary wildly. The uncertainty is frustrating. Although lately Jonte has gotten really good about letting me know when items have long lead times or are out of stock and finding alternate items. I do appreciate that. Aside from stock uncertainties, it feels wasteful of my time and theirs to have to go through a "traditional" sales rep interaction cycle for small/uncomplicated orders. At this point if we're replenishing stock by ordering a case of UBNT gear and we haven't run out yet, we'll order it from CTI. If it's for a small project (e.g. AF5x link+spare or some UniFi APs) I'll order from Baltic because the stock levels on their website are accurate--if they show it in stock and I order before 3 PM I know that it will be in my office by noon the following day. Inaccurate stock levels on Streakwave's web store have bitten me on nearly every order I've placed with them... On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net <mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote: If it wasn't for Jeff Broadwick, i wouldn't do business with CTI... too complicated. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> _ From: "Jon Auer" <j...@tapodi.net <mailto:j...@tapodi.net> > To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 2:32:38 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <li...@packetflux.com <mailto:li...@packetflux.com> > wrote: Don't discount just adding your products to amazon and the like. I love it when manufacturers do this (and use Amazon's warehouses). I've been seriously tempted to just do it with /someone's/ very awesome APC-compatible surge cards... I was very happy when Telect was doing that with fuse panels and fiber trays. There's so much less cognitive load and time spent in going to Amazon, searching part number, and clicking buy now instead of emailing Power or CTI, getting a quote, approving the quote, placing the order, etc. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] Opps
Is there any other way to drink it? Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 6:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Opps You lush. And that's bad coming from a guy who drinks scotch neat. On Aug 24, 2015 6:53 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Oh yes On Aug 24, 2015 5:09 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Or nudge nudge wink wink does your wife. You know I mean ...does she like the old in and out. Does she. Say no more. Butchered but from a Python sketch On Aug 24, 2015 4:54 PM, Mike Delp miked...@gmail.com mailto:miked...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm532/?ref_=tt_trv_qu Alex: No time for the old in-n-out, love, I've just come to read the meter. Clockwork orange. On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Yep. Such is my lot in life On Aug 24, 2015 4:27 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com mailto:af...@kwisp.com wrote: Now you’re just setting yourself up for another wild leg joke from Mike. From: Jaime Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 4:18 PM To: Animal Farm mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Opps If I have time I will look him up. Trying the old in and out On Aug 24, 2015 4:12 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote: Adair Winter of Amarillo Wireless operates there. He has some Telrad 3.65 GHz LTE gear. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix _ From: Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 3:50:52 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Opps Gas is 2.12 in Lubbock!!! Headed on our Back to Borger Tour.. Lol. Staying in fun filled Amarillo. On Aug 24, 2015 3:26 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Yes On Aug 24, 2015 3:23 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote: Is that what you tell all of the ladies? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix _ From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com mailto:af...@kwisp.com To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 3:13:23 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Opps Beware the wild leg. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-leg_delta From: Jaime Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 3:07 PM To: Animal Farm mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Opps What 208 vac does to 120vac peak 150 Vac surge protector !! Water company electrician was blaming us for wiring problems in our panels until they checked his connection in their boxes.. They are paying for new one. None of our gear damaged. Thanks to this protector. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback
If Wheeler is coming to Vegas I know the WISPAPALOOZA Agenda committee would like to know ;-) Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 3:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback Maybe that's their big Vegas party? Wheeler personally hands Robert the certifications? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix _ From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 4:01:04 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback yes you are correct Mike, they are still missing the 54xx DFS channels. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net _ From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 4:49:11 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback IIRC, no new UBNT products have DFS certification. Some of the newer ones (Maybe all?) have 5150 certification. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix _ From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Cc: Principal WISPA Member List w...@wispa.org mailto:w...@wispa.org , memb...@wispa.org mailto:memb...@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 3:39:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback Hi Darin, Comparing Ubnt AC to EPMP ... it is not a fair, apples to apples comparison.. one is a 802.11ac based and the other is 802.11n based system. in regards to certs... actually, both are now certified for all of the bands... EPMP is available for use today, Ubnt AC products, awaiting a new firmware to unlock the channels. I'm most interested in how ePMP scales on towers compared to UBNT If you are feq. constrained, the re-use of freq with EPMP will be highly desired. If you are not freq. constrained then ability to do higher bandwidth with the AC products will be appealing. how it handles a low signal client better than UBNT when a dish gets misaligned For all systems, irrespective of who makes them... the key factor is Signal to Noise Ratio... if that is decent stuff will work well, if not then they all come down to their knees How much and how quicklywould be very difficult to describe(kind of like asking someone what does a rose smell like ?) Consistent jitter and ping is also something I'd be interested in hearing about to see how it handles VOIP and gaming better than UBNT. On any GPS based system, you will have a higher ping time(latency) EPMP's have a very decent QOS mechanism, and voip works well . Ubnt works pretty decent too. However as a general rule non gps based systems are more susceptible to interference... but then keep in mind that is a relative statement, depending on the strength of the interfering signal, even the gps based units will come down to their knees. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 callto:305%20663%205518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 callto:%28305%29663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net _ From: Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com , memb...@wispa.org mailto:memb...@wispa.org memb...@wispa.org mailto:memb...@wispa.org , Principal WISPA Member List w...@wispa.org mailto:w...@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 1:52:40 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback Hello guys, Have any of you used Ubiquiti M-Series and also used ePMP now to compare the differences in your network? We're building out some new sites and comparing Ubiquiti AC gear to ePMP and really
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp and omni
http://bfy.tw/1QkO Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 1:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp and omni Loss = 20 log (cos Θ) Plug in 45 degrees and see what you get. From: Eric Rogers mailto:ecrog...@precisionds.com Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 12:32 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp and omni I thought you kept 70% of your signal, or decreased by 30%, not 50%... Eric Rogers wlmailhtml:www.pdsconnect.me www.pdsconnect.me (317) 831-3000 x200 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Daniel White Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 8:35 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp and omni If you mix slant with linear polarization you should lose 3dB per chain. Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 6:07 PM To: af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp and omni They should work fine with an H/V omni, the Cambium 2.4ghz sectors are slant, but the integrated SMs are actually H/V - it works fine to mix slant and linear with ePMP. That said, KP does make a dual slant 2.4ghz omni. On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 6:46 PM, Josh Corson j...@bluebitnetworks.com mailto:j...@bluebitnetworks.com wrote: Has anyone came across a good 2.4GHz omni for ePMP. As I remember they are dual slant radios and thus not a standard omni like a 2.4 ubiquiti will work. Correct me if I'm wrong. We are using rocket M2's with omnis now for small small sites and would be nice to get that gig port and higher capacity on 2.4 omni. On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 5:01 PM Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: We've got a several of them deployed, I've used Chuck's antennas and UBNT antennas. They work as anything else with an omni. On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Any deployments? Certified? I knew there was an antenna to use already :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 21, 2015 5:22 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Like this? http://www.mccowntech.com/products.cfm?PID=78 http://www.mccowntech.com/products.cfm?PID=78Cat= Cat= From: Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 3:19 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Epmp and omni Is this doable? Anyone doing it? Certified or no? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 _ https://www.avast.com/antivirus This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com https://www.avast.com/antivirus --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp and omni
If you mix slant with linear polarization you should lose 3dB per chain. Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 6:07 PM To: af af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp and omni They should work fine with an H/V omni, the Cambium 2.4ghz sectors are slant, but the integrated SMs are actually H/V - it works fine to mix slant and linear with ePMP. That said, KP does make a dual slant 2.4ghz omni. On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 6:46 PM, Josh Corson j...@bluebitnetworks.com mailto:j...@bluebitnetworks.com wrote: Has anyone came across a good 2.4GHz omni for ePMP. As I remember they are dual slant radios and thus not a standard omni like a 2.4 ubiquiti will work. Correct me if I'm wrong. We are using rocket M2's with omnis now for small small sites and would be nice to get that gig port and higher capacity on 2.4 omni. On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 5:01 PM Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: We've got a several of them deployed, I've used Chuck's antennas and UBNT antennas. They work as anything else with an omni. On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Any deployments? Certified? I knew there was an antenna to use already :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 21, 2015 5:22 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Like this? http://www.mccowntech.com/products.cfm?PID=78 http://www.mccowntech.com/products.cfm?PID=78Cat= Cat= From: Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 3:19 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Epmp and omni Is this doable? Anyone doing it? Certified or no? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] More SCADA stuff
I was distracted by the tire :-D Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 9:45 PM To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] More SCADA stuff Peek a boo...damn those nano nano (apology to Mork) are small On Aug 20, 2015 9:34 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Yep. Nonesome SCADA Dept's don't like them...I like to use them On Aug 20, 2015 9:26 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com mailto:af...@kwisp.com wrote: Uh-oh, is that stranded wire with no ferrules? I do that, but figured I would burn in hell for it. From: Jaime Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 9:22 PM To: Animal Farm mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] More SCADA stuff DC for Toughswitch --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing
I’m not sure Mikrotik is known for their tech support. But they have great resources here in the US like Butch and Dennis. But coming from a Telco background… you’re going to opt for the bigger boys in the industry I’m sure (plus you need features I doubt Mikrotik has ever had… like DS-3 support, etc.). Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I looked at them years ago, I think I may have purchased something from them, some wireless card. But the whole tech support in Latvia thing put me off. We were pretty much a cisco shop. From: Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:23 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing How could you have been a WISP and not dealt with Mikrotik at all? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix _ From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:02:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I am pretty ignorant as to the abilities of any Mikrotic device. Can you enlighten me? -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:01 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I am wondering if I got a GigE managed switch, could I see some phy data speeds by looking at its management interface? Why not just a Mikrotik CCR? Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...
That is funny. I just learned about those a week ago. Then you will have drones that use http://www.bbrclub.org/Balloon%20Cable%20Cutting%20Device%20for%20Aircraft.htm Thank you, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn: Twitter -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 7:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down... On 8/17/15 11:07, Chuck McCown wrote: Crossbow or long bow arrow pulling fishing line could mess them up. Release some barrage balloons. ~Seth --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] Easy way to copy csv addresses to Earth
Google Earth Pro (which is free now) allows you to import CSV files. Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:22 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Easy way to copy csv addresses to Earth I have a handful of customers on a spreadsheet and I want to see them. Is this easily doable? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245 km
There are some old licensed links running that path too… carrying video traffic for Fox News I think. Great accomplishment considering no space diversity and the small antennas. Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 9:20 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245 km (also posted in the forum) that's impressive Ray! I see those were 3ft dishes, what signal/speed did they get? Any screenshots of the status page? On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Ray Savich ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com mailto:ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: We connected a link from Pike’s Peak to Cheyenne, Wyoming. Check out the details and add your questions/comments at http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PTP-650/PTP-650-Sets-New-Wireless-Broadband-Link-Record-of-245-km/m-p/42607#U42607 Ray Join the Conversation Cambium Networks Community Forum http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km
Pikes Peak is tall… and the path between there and Cheyenne, WY is relatively flat. But Pikes Peak is 9000ft+ AGL. LOS certainly exists. On a clear day, I can see Pikes Peak from where I live which is about 80 miles away as the crow flies (and I feel like I can see the entire mountain from here). Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 10:15 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km Does the article mention that earth curvature + Fresnel radius at that distance is 3072 feet? Hence going between mountain peaks. Everyone here knows that, but the schools are not what they once were, and some people think the earth is flat. Probably at least a couple of the candidates in the debates tomorrow. From: Lewis Bergman mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 10:45 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTP 650 Sets New Wireless Broadband Link Record of 245km When someone mentions record in the same sentence with a microwave link I always think unreliable. Not that it matters in this case but I rarely see the point. On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Ray Savich ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com mailto:ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: We connected a link from Pike’s Peak to Cheyenne, Wyoming. Check out the details and add your questions/comments at http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PTP-650/PTP-650-Sets-New-Wireless-Broadband-Link-Record-of-245-km/m-p/42607#U42607 Ray Join the Conversation Cambium Networks Community Forum http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/ -- Lewis Bergman 325-439-0533 Cell --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] Does this mean we can order these radios?
When I was at BridgeWave I helped install a 7.5mi 80GHz link for a city. It closed a fiber ring… so it was a backup. They figured the low availability was okay… capacity if the rest of the ring crashed was more important. Aligning it wasn’t too bad :-D Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 11:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does this mean we can order these radios? All I heard was “80 GHz at 5 miles”. If that works, it would be worth the trouble. From: Rory Conaway mailto:r...@triadwireless.net Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 12:53 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does this mean we can order these radios? They aren’t as hard as aligning a pair of Bridgewave 80GHz radios at 5 miles though. That’s like trying to pull a smartphone out of your left pocket with your right hand at a full sprint. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 9:44 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does this mean we can order these radios? Aligning 60GHz requires patience. Mounting must be solid on all levels. Bet Chucks optic thing-a-magig would help on these .. On Aug 2, 2015 9:49 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net mailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote: http://www.neobits.com/ignitenet_ml_60_35_us_metrolinq_60ghz_outdoor_ptp_p8378657.html?atc=gbp http://www.neobits.com/ignitenet_ml_60_35_us_metrolinq_60ghz_outdoor_ptp_p8378657.html?atc=gbpgclid=CJnpz4uOjMcCFZRffgodV6cAAQ gclid=CJnpz4uOjMcCFZRffgodV6cAAQ Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO 4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040 602-426-0542 tel:602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net mailto:r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net http://www.triadwireless.net/ “Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards.” – Vern Law --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz
Pretty much in your area. Not sure what your colleague is thinking. but the FCC has granted many 7GHz/13GHz licenses for private use so long as you're not in an exclusion area. A frequency coordinator will be able to tell you if your in an exclusion area. Also consider possibly ETSI class 4 antennas (I think Comscope is the only one with them for now) they may open up channels you may not be able to get otherwise. Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 7:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz There is no 6GHz available on the two towers that I looked at. So are you saying it's useless to apply for? Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Daniel White Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 6:15 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz In your area most likely: http://www.comsearch.com/newsletter/WirelessPulse.html Only place I've seen 13GHz used was the US Virgin Islands and rural Utah. Everywhere else has sufficient spectrum in 11GHz or 6GHz. Note 7GHz requires 6ft antennas. 13GHz requires at least 3ft antennas. Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 7:03 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz I'm being told it's only available to cable or TV companies. Rory Conaway . Triad Wireless . CEO 4226 S. 37th Street . Phoenix . AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net mailto:r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net http://www.triadwireless.net/ Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards. - Vern Law _ https://www.avast.com/antivirus This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com https://www.avast.com/antivirus --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz
In your area most likely: http://www.comsearch.com/newsletter/WirelessPulse.html Only place I've seen 13GHz used was the US Virgin Islands and rural Utah. Everywhere else has sufficient spectrum in 11GHz or 6GHz. Note 7GHz requires 6ft antennas. 13GHz requires at least 3ft antennas. Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 7:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz I'm being told it's only available to cable or TV companies. Rory Conaway . Triad Wireless . CEO 4226 S. 37th Street . Phoenix . AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net mailto:r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net http://www.triadwireless.net/ Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards. - Vern Law --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] saf link security question
What platform? Integra/Integra-S and PhoeniX-C has AES encryption you can purchase. Everything else. there isn't a physical security layer like what you describe. Narrow beamwidth parabolic antennas, proprietary radios, and the fac that the link would have to drop for another radio to register are security enough for most licensed installations. Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig Schmaderer Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 1:22 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] saf link security question Installing my first link in the lab getting it ready. This might be a dumb question, but is there a link key or password that you enter to secure the link. The radio linked right up but I can't seem to find a setting to lock the link to only those radios. I realize this probably isn't an issue with a license bridge. On the cambium ptp800 you have to have the link names match. On the saf radio I thought the system name or site name might have to match but they don't according to my testing. Any help? Thanks, Craig. Craig R. Schmaderer CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc. Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058 Direct: 402-372-1052 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz
Every microwave vendor should have 7GHz and 13GHz… they are popular bands internationally. Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 7:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz Is SAF the only vendor in 7GHz? Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 6:10 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what are the limitions on 7GHz and 13GHz No... You just need to apply for it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 4, 2015 9:02 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net mailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I’m being told it’s only available to cable or TV companies. Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO 4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040 602-426-0542 tel:602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net mailto:r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net http://www.triadwireless.net/ “Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards.” – Vern Law --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni
I can be too :-)
Talk to me next week. My new gig distributes Alpha Wireless antennas as well.
Thank you,
Daniel White
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2015 12:21 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni
Yup. Jason, Keith, and Tre are your friends.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 8/1/2015 11:08 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Where did you buy that, LMG?
From: Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 1:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni
We have an Alpha dual-slant omni on 2.4 GHz, and we're getting -62 dBm at ~~ 2
miles, with SNR 36 dBm. Will soon see if we can stretch that to 2.75 miles. I
think it will do well considering the locations.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 8/1/2015 10:47 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Yeah, we’re only using them for a radius of less than 1 mile, and usually with
a CPE right at the repeater site, so the smaller antenna with more downtilt
seemed appropriate. I question whether that’s really a 10 dBi antenna though,
the range has been disappointing.
From: Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 11:59 AM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni
Greater vertical bandwidth?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Aug 1, 2015 12:56 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com
mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com wrote:
Why the Ubiquiti 10dbi instead of the 13dbi?
On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com
mailto:af...@kwisp.com wrote:
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I’m not putting sectors at a legacy repeater site in a
tiny town with 6 subs which of course are in all different directions. The
site is currently 2.4 FSK and an omni with 7 degrees downtilt, but the 2.4
interference has become too bad.
I have been trying to use Rockets in U-NII-1 with the Ubiquiti 10 dBi omni, but
the range is really poor plus I’m tired of waiting for the SOON firmware for
the Beams. I also see home routers now coming preset to use channels 36-48 by
default (which makes sense), so U-NII-1 may not stay quiet in town.
From: Sean Heskett mailto:af...@zirkel.us
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 10:37 AM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni
Friends don't let friends use omnis ;)
On Saturday, August 1, 2015, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com
mailto:af...@kwisp.com wrote:
Does anyone know if the KPP dual slant omni is an Alpha AW3089 or a knockoff?
And has anyone used either of them?
My experience with 5 GHz dual pol omnis has been disappointing, I'm wondering
if these bigger, more expensive omnis deliver better performance.
11 dBi isn't much if you can lose 3-5 dB at certain azimuths, another few dB
depending on frequency, and another 3 dB at zero elevation due to 4 degrees
electrical downtilt with an 8 degree beamwidth.
For $600+ and 6 inches diameter, I'd expect it to wash and wax my car.
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Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave ge80
Swapping polarities is usually the best cure for interference issues with the older BridgeWave gear…. Nothing beats physical separation. The Flexport radios allow selectable channels at least. Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 8:43 PM To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave ge80 OK ...didn't know what they did anyways.So you need physical separation to keep them from hearing each other. The Boingo guy is a dip. He told project manager the GE 8Os were interfering with each because of a Fredzone issue. I moved antenna from site they told us to use to about four feet back on wall and that did the trick. Reminded me of my WMux days...tomorrow is my last day. They are offering a San Antonio project but don't want to pay my out of town away from family rates. I will pass it probably. Who wants to eat wanna be Mexican food anyways? On Jul 30, 2015 7:53 PM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com mailto:afmu...@gmail.com wrote: Please remove the plastic bolts from the GE60… those are only there for shipping to protect the radome. Otherwise they just look stupid :-D That must be the new Radiowaves mount. It is certainly not the old one. Hard to believe that Rucks/BridgeWave project is still going on. I closed the initial phase on that almost 4 years ago when I was at BridgeWave. Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 tel:%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 3:21 PM To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave ge80 Linked them. Talk about precise...yikes...thanks to airghz app I trusted math and not eyes. Even this better aligning mount has some play in the elevation and azimuth adjusters. So add ge80 to my list of radios I have installed and aligned. Now the super fine alignment. On Jul 30, 2015 12:47 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Thx. Moved one antenna bit further away and changed polarity. Seems to help. Will align after lunch On Jul 30, 2015 10:51 AM, can...@believewireless.net mailto:can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net mailto:p...@believewireless.net wrote: Any high will connect to any low and vice versa. Although, I don't know what happens on a working link. You could check the database to make sure there are no other links in the area. On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Do these have said or way for them not to see other ge80s? We are given access to configuration. Voltmeter readings tell me I am picking up nearby radio _ https://www.avast.com/antivirus This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com https://www.avast.com/antivirus --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave ge80
Please remove the plastic bolts from the GE60… those are only there for shipping to protect the radome. Otherwise they just look stupid :-D That must be the new Radiowaves mount. It is certainly not the old one. Hard to believe that Rucks/BridgeWave project is still going on. I closed the initial phase on that almost 4 years ago when I was at BridgeWave. Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 3:21 PM To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave ge80 Linked them. Talk about precise...yikes...thanks to airghz app I trusted math and not eyes. Even this better aligning mount has some play in the elevation and azimuth adjusters. So add ge80 to my list of radios I have installed and aligned. Now the super fine alignment. On Jul 30, 2015 12:47 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Thx. Moved one antenna bit further away and changed polarity. Seems to help. Will align after lunch On Jul 30, 2015 10:51 AM, can...@believewireless.net mailto:can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net mailto:p...@believewireless.net wrote: Any high will connect to any low and vice versa. Although, I don't know what happens on a working link. You could check the database to make sure there are no other links in the area. On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Do these have said or way for them not to see other ge80s? We are given access to configuration. Voltmeter readings tell me I am picking up nearby radio --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon
My kids love it too Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 3:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon At COSTCO you can buy packets of dried seaweed. They come in parchment-like form, about 2”x 4”. They are surprisingly tasty. BUT, your pets will go nuts for them. My Aussie and Weimaraner pooches will eat anything gently from my fingers….except these. They’ll damn near take off my hand for these. Oddly, my kids are the same, even my picky 9 year old son. Patrick Leary, Telrad 727-501-3735 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 4:11 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon I read about this last night and there were comments from people that had the marketer of this product at college. Apparently, he is a very good marketer, and it also tastes nothing like bacon (other than the fact that it is salty.) I watched a video of the products they're making with dulse and they say 'it tastes like bacon' then proceed to batter it, deep fry it, mix it with peanuts and chocolate and other things.. you'd think if it tasted like bacon, they would sell it as a bacon replacement, not mix it into peanut brittle. On 7/17/2015 1:04 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Actually, since the article says they fry it up, I’m imagining it would be thin, light and crispy, maybe even pleasantly greasy. Sounds yummy. And if they can powder it, anything could taste like bacon. Now they need seaweed that tastes like cheese. So we could have vegan bacon cheese fries. I keep looking at the Baconator Fries at Wendy’s. They look very unhealthy. And tasty. Maybe with a Frosty. From: Mark Radabaugh mailto:m...@amplex.net Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 12:28 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scientists have found a seaweed that tastes like bacon Can’t be any worse than most hotel buffet bacon - that lovely soggy greasy stuff. Mark On Jul 17, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: I can't imagine the texture is there, however. On Friday, July 17, 2015, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net mailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I may retire the HoHo’s. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6 http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6objectid=11482633 objectid=11482633 Rory Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO 4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','r...@triadwireless.net'); www.triadwireless.net http://www.triadwireless.net/ “Nothing can bring you peace but yourself. Nothing can bring you peace but the triumph of principles.” – Ralph Waldo Emerson This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] heat cutoff for installers
You should also be fully clothed... light long sleeve shirt, pants. Look at roofers. They work around hot tar all day in the same heat... look how they dress. They do so for a reason. I do so also because I am fair skinned and sunburn easy. Don't forget sunscreen as well. When I used to climb towers regularly... I wore a camelback under my harness so that there would be a reminder to drink water by my mouth all the time. I think most climbers don't drink enough water because the bottle is in a bag somewhere and you simply forget to take the time to hydrate. Thank you, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn: Twitter -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 9:34 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] heat cutoff for installers On 7/14/15 7:52, Sean Heskett wrote: For us that is a safety issue and if the guy doing the work feels like it's an unsafe condition then the work stops. Same as if it's too windy to climb a tower or too cold in the winter. My guys aren't wimps tho and they'll usually keep going past when I think it's safe and tell them to quit working. If it's too hot then adjust their schedules to start earlier if you need to and quit earlier. No need to die for the freakin interwebs...Facebook can wait. I've done all day work on rooftops in 105 degree heat. Where people go wrong is failing to stay hydrated by thinking a soda at lunch is good enough. And working at a steady pace, not running around like a moron as fast as possible. ~Seth --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Where is Daniel - Was Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver2.4.3
I thought I threw in a box of Ho-Ho’s :-) Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 5:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Where is Daniel - Was Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver2.4.3 $20? He only bought me a Big Mac. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 4:37 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Where is Daniel - Was Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver2.4.3 Was the 20.00 you gave me Tessco show in Dallas so I would vote for you.. ..keep it hush hush On Jul 12, 2015 1:29 PM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com mailto:afmu...@gmail.com wrote: I knew that military training would be helpful someday. Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 tel:%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 1:07 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Where is Daniel - Was Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver2.4.3 Greetings, Starfighter. You have been recruited by the Star League to defend the frontier against Xur and the Ko-Dan armada. From: Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 12:53 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Where is Daniel - Was Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver2.4.3 We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your WISP’s. Your technological and geographical distinctiveness will be added to our own. Resistance is futile. On a semi related note for those WISPA members on this list, I am running for the board of directors and I hope each of you vote in the upcoming election starting on Monday. Of course I would appreciate your vote… I’ve seem to become quite fond of this industry :-D Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 tel:%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 9:16 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 Who are you, and what have you done with Daniel? (That’s my new theory. Simon and Daniel have been abducted by aliens, who left robot duplicates in their place. Anyone remember the movie The Last Starfighter?) From: Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 10:13 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 Hey I’m still here! Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 tel:%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 8:21 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 While you were gone, Simon and Daniel quit. And Chuck sat on a pole. See what happens when you’re gone! We need your Greatness. From: CBB - Jay Fuller mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 9:04 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 running a mix of both here, not really seeing anything that screams at me. what, exactly, are you seeing? i'm actually going BACK to 2.4.2 cause i miss my real time graphs... heck, i've been almost too busy to post here. i'm sure ya'll have missed me ;) - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 Sorry/welcome :( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 11, 2015 6:06 PM, Wireless Admin wirel...@htn.net mailto:wirel...@htn.net wrote: Damn, I was hoping I was not the only one. Steve b. _ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Wireless Admin Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 10:34 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 I just wanted to see how others were doing
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Where is Daniel - Was Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3
That hashtag doesn’t look that popular… but now I am motivated to actually use it :-) Latvia news might be better to get from another source. I just retweet what I think is funny (that and a former colleague of mine is very into boar hunting) Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 12:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Where is Daniel - Was Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 I hope you won't retire your popular hashtag https://twitter.com/hashtag/BeautifulPeopleAmazingRadios or end the retweeting of big Latvian news https://twitter.com/LSM_eng/status/600631462103273472 On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 12:53 PM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com mailto:afmu...@gmail.com wrote: We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your WISP’s. Your technological and geographical distinctiveness will be added to our own. Resistance is futile. On a semi related note for those WISPA members on this list, I am running for the board of directors and I hope each of you vote in the upcoming election starting on Monday. Of course I would appreciate your vote… I’ve seem to become quite fond of this industry :-D Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 tel:%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 9:16 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 Who are you, and what have you done with Daniel? (That’s my new theory. Simon and Daniel have been abducted by aliens, who left robot duplicates in their place. Anyone remember the movie The Last Starfighter?) From: Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 10:13 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 Hey I’m still here! Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 tel:%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 8:21 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 While you were gone, Simon and Daniel quit. And Chuck sat on a pole. See what happens when you’re gone! We need your Greatness. From: CBB - Jay Fuller mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 9:04 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 running a mix of both here, not really seeing anything that screams at me. what, exactly, are you seeing? i'm actually going BACK to 2.4.2 cause i miss my real time graphs... heck, i've been almost too busy to post here. i'm sure ya'll have missed me ;) - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 Sorry/welcome :( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 11, 2015 6:06 PM, Wireless Admin wirel...@htn.net mailto:wirel...@htn.net wrote: Damn, I was hoping I was not the only one. Steve b. _ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Wireless Admin Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 10:34 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 I just wanted to see how others were doing with the latest Software release (2.4.3) for the ePMP platform. The first tower (2.4Ghz) we installed it on developed problems almost right away. Links that were stable with 2.4.2 became unreliable. We rolled the software back and forth several times to see if there was just some new interference but the results seem conclusive. Links that are fine with 2.4.2 are not fine with 2.4.3. We tried loading 2.4.3 on only the AP’s and not on the SM’s and still had issues. We also tried 2.4.3 on the SM’s and not the AP’s but still no stability. I realize we’re special here but REALLY. Is it possible that I’m the only one with issues……… Steve B. _ https://www.avast.com/antivirus This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com https
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Where is Daniel - Was Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver2.4.3
I knew that military training would be helpful someday. Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 1:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Where is Daniel - Was Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver2.4.3 Greetings, Starfighter. You have been recruited by the Star League to defend the frontier against Xur and the Ko-Dan armada. From: Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 12:53 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Where is Daniel - Was Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver2.4.3 We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your WISP’s. Your technological and geographical distinctiveness will be added to our own. Resistance is futile. On a semi related note for those WISPA members on this list, I am running for the board of directors and I hope each of you vote in the upcoming election starting on Monday. Of course I would appreciate your vote… I’ve seem to become quite fond of this industry :-D Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 9:16 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 Who are you, and what have you done with Daniel? (That’s my new theory. Simon and Daniel have been abducted by aliens, who left robot duplicates in their place. Anyone remember the movie The Last Starfighter?) From: Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 10:13 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 Hey I’m still here! Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 8:21 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 While you were gone, Simon and Daniel quit. And Chuck sat on a pole. See what happens when you’re gone! We need your Greatness. From: CBB - Jay Fuller mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 9:04 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 running a mix of both here, not really seeing anything that screams at me. what, exactly, are you seeing? i'm actually going BACK to 2.4.2 cause i miss my real time graphs... heck, i've been almost too busy to post here. i'm sure ya'll have missed me ;) - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 Sorry/welcome :( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 11, 2015 6:06 PM, Wireless Admin wirel...@htn.net mailto:wirel...@htn.net wrote: Damn, I was hoping I was not the only one. Steve b. _ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Wireless Admin Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 10:34 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 I just wanted to see how others were doing with the latest Software release (2.4.3) for the ePMP platform. The first tower (2.4Ghz) we installed it on developed problems almost right away. Links that were stable with 2.4.2 became unreliable. We rolled the software back and forth several times to see if there was just some new interference but the results seem conclusive. Links that are fine with 2.4.2 are not fine with 2.4.3. We tried loading 2.4.3 on only the AP’s and not on the SM’s and still had issues. We also tried 2.4.3 on the SM’s and not the AP’s but still no stability. I realize we’re special here but REALLY. Is it possible that I’m the only one with issues……… Steve B. _ https://www.avast.com/antivirus This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com https://www.avast.com/antivirus _ https://www.avast.com/antivirus This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com https://www.avast.com/antivirus --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Where is Daniel - Was Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3
Exploring a number of options. Stay tuned to this bat channel… I’ll let you guys know where I am going when I can :-) Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 12:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Where is Daniel - Was Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 Are you employed? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 12, 2015 1:53 PM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com mailto:afmu...@gmail.com wrote: We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your WISP’s. Your technological and geographical distinctiveness will be added to our own. Resistance is futile. On a semi related note for those WISPA members on this list, I am running for the board of directors and I hope each of you vote in the upcoming election starting on Monday. Of course I would appreciate your vote… I’ve seem to become quite fond of this industry :-D Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 tel:%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 9:16 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 Who are you, and what have you done with Daniel? (That’s my new theory. Simon and Daniel have been abducted by aliens, who left robot duplicates in their place. Anyone remember the movie The Last Starfighter?) From: Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 10:13 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 Hey I’m still here! Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 tel:%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 8:21 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 While you were gone, Simon and Daniel quit. And Chuck sat on a pole. See what happens when you’re gone! We need your Greatness. From: CBB - Jay Fuller mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 9:04 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 running a mix of both here, not really seeing anything that screams at me. what, exactly, are you seeing? i'm actually going BACK to 2.4.2 cause i miss my real time graphs... heck, i've been almost too busy to post here. i'm sure ya'll have missed me ;) - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 Sorry/welcome :( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 11, 2015 6:06 PM, Wireless Admin wirel...@htn.net mailto:wirel...@htn.net wrote: Damn, I was hoping I was not the only one. Steve b. _ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Wireless Admin Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 10:34 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 I just wanted to see how others were doing with the latest Software release (2.4.3) for the ePMP platform. The first tower (2.4Ghz) we installed it on developed problems almost right away. Links that were stable with 2.4.2 became unreliable. We rolled the software back and forth several times to see if there was just some new interference but the results seem conclusive. Links that are fine with 2.4.2 are not fine with 2.4.3. We tried loading 2.4.3 on only the AP’s and not on the SM’s and still had issues. We also tried 2.4.3 on the SM’s and not the AP’s but still no stability. I realize we’re special here but REALLY. Is it possible that I’m the only one with issues……… Steve B. _ https://www.avast.com/antivirus This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com https://www.avast.com/antivirus _ https://www.avast.com/antivirus This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com https://www.avast.com/antivirus --- This email has been checked for viruses
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Where is Daniel - Was Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3
We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your WISP’s. Your technological and geographical distinctiveness will be added to our own. Resistance is futile. On a semi related note for those WISPA members on this list, I am running for the board of directors and I hope each of you vote in the upcoming election starting on Monday. Of course I would appreciate your vote… I’ve seem to become quite fond of this industry :-D Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 9:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 Who are you, and what have you done with Daniel? (That’s my new theory. Simon and Daniel have been abducted by aliens, who left robot duplicates in their place. Anyone remember the movie The Last Starfighter?) From: Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 10:13 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 Hey I’m still here! Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 8:21 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 While you were gone, Simon and Daniel quit. And Chuck sat on a pole. See what happens when you’re gone! We need your Greatness. From: CBB - Jay Fuller mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 9:04 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 running a mix of both here, not really seeing anything that screams at me. what, exactly, are you seeing? i'm actually going BACK to 2.4.2 cause i miss my real time graphs... heck, i've been almost too busy to post here. i'm sure ya'll have missed me ;) - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 Sorry/welcome :( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 11, 2015 6:06 PM, Wireless Admin wirel...@htn.net mailto:wirel...@htn.net wrote: Damn, I was hoping I was not the only one. Steve b. _ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Wireless Admin Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 10:34 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 I just wanted to see how others were doing with the latest Software release (2.4.3) for the ePMP platform. The first tower (2.4Ghz) we installed it on developed problems almost right away. Links that were stable with 2.4.2 became unreliable. We rolled the software back and forth several times to see if there was just some new interference but the results seem conclusive. Links that are fine with 2.4.2 are not fine with 2.4.3. We tried loading 2.4.3 on only the AP’s and not on the SM’s and still had issues. We also tried 2.4.3 on the SM’s and not the AP’s but still no stability. I realize we’re special here but REALLY. Is it possible that I’m the only one with issues……… Steve B. _ https://www.avast.com/antivirus This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com https://www.avast.com/antivirus --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3
Hey I’m still here! Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 8:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 While you were gone, Simon and Daniel quit. And Chuck sat on a pole. See what happens when you’re gone! We need your Greatness. From: CBB - Jay Fuller mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 9:04 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 running a mix of both here, not really seeing anything that screams at me. what, exactly, are you seeing? i'm actually going BACK to 2.4.2 cause i miss my real time graphs... heck, i've been almost too busy to post here. i'm sure ya'll have missed me ;) - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 Sorry/welcome :( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 11, 2015 6:06 PM, Wireless Admin wirel...@htn.net mailto:wirel...@htn.net wrote: Damn, I was hoping I was not the only one. Steve b. _ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Wireless Admin Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 10:34 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP1000 Software Ver 2.4.3 I just wanted to see how others were doing with the latest Software release (2.4.3) for the ePMP platform. The first tower (2.4Ghz) we installed it on developed problems almost right away. Links that were stable with 2.4.2 became unreliable. We rolled the software back and forth several times to see if there was just some new interference but the results seem conclusive. Links that are fine with 2.4.2 are not fine with 2.4.3. We tried loading 2.4.3 on only the AP’s and not on the SM’s and still had issues. We also tried 2.4.3 on the SM’s and not the AP’s but still no stability. I realize we’re special here but REALLY. Is it possible that I’m the only one with issues……… Steve B. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] Denial of service mitigation
I can’t provide a recommendation here… but I saw these boxes just the other day. http://www.fortinet.com/products/fortiddos/ddos-mitigation-appliances.html Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 4:22 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Denial of service mitigation Possibly .. I only talked with a few of them … and with Prolexic in particular was before Akamai bought them. The biggest show stoppers for me was that they could only handle 10 gig attacks at that time… Also something to remember/share – you need something really solid in place still to detect the attack and signal your “provider” even with a solution like Prolexic. I’ve only ever found one solution that works extremely well for this – Arbor Peakflow… the box isn’t cheap, the annual maintenance is brutally expensive. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 10:17 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Denial of service mitigation It probably differs based on the company. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com _ From: Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org mailto:p...@paulstewart.org To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 8:05:09 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Denial of service mitigation When I last looked into it… you definitely didn’t move your AS to them – you provided them LOA’s to announce your IP space via their transit providers. You have to also automate route removal on your side to withdraw the /24 (or whatever block you decide) from your upstream announcements when DDOS occurs to ensure the traffic hits their scrubbing center…. Not ideal in my opinion…. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Wiatowski Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 11:23 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Denial of service mitigation From what I investigated… you move your BGP AS to them…they scrub…secure tunnel back to your network….. going to call… for the fun of it all…just to see how expensive the service is. Cheers, __ Andreas Wiatowski | CEO Silo Wireless Inc. Email andr...@silowireless.com mailto:andr...@silowireless.com 19 Sage Court Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA) Tel +1.519.449.5656 Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free +1.866.727.4138 Website http://www.silowireless.com/ http://www.silowireless.com/ | Facebook http://www.facebook.com/silowireless http://www.facebook.com/silowireless | Twitter @silowireless This electronic message and all of its contents and attachments contain information from the offices of Silo Wireless Inc., which may be privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. The information is intended to be for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, then any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this message, or its contents or any of its attachments, is prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message and all copies. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout Sent: July 9, 2015 12:28 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Denial of service mitigation How's that going to work? Route all of your traffic to them first by VPN? I think that's just for websites...? On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us mailto:se...@rollernet.us wrote: On 7/8/15 7:48 PM, Andreas Wiatowski wrote: Wondering if anyone has a magic answer to DDOS mitigation beyond “buy more bandwidth”? Other than having excess bandwidth to absorb it or null routing the target IP upstream, there's DDoS scrubbing services like Prolexic. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Flush mount wifi jack
Nothing really new. Ruckus and Meru have had them for a long time (these are the recent models) and I’m sure there are more out there: Ruckus: http://www.ruckuswireless.com/products/access-points/zoneflex-indoor/zoneflex-h500 Meru: http://www.merunetworks.com/Products/Access-Points/AP122.html Thank you, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com mailto:afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve D Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 7:02 PM To: af Subject: [AFMUG] Flush mount wifi jack Anyone used this company's gear? This looks like a really neat little unit for motels and stuff. I can think of a few places where we installed a wifi node right beside the jack... could have used this for an even cleaner appearance. http://www.newworldtelecom.com/NW-IW100GX-N Question I'd have is whether it's crap or not. Powered by 802.3af. It certainly caught my eye with neat-o factor. Thoughts? -Steve D
[AFMUG] A creative use for UBNT gear
Well maybe not that creative. http://www.wired.com/2015/07/online-anonymity-box-puts-mile-away-ip-address/ Daniel White (303) 746-3590 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] 44.0.0.0/8
I’ll never forget the day I was in Cupertino in one of Apple’s buildings are saw public IP addresses assigned to things like printers. Blew my mind. Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 10:40 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 44.0.0.0/8 Not sure about Daimler, but Ford does... I'm sure there are a lot worse wastes of IPs than the HAMs. On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 11:28 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Doesn't Ford and Daimler have a /8? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 1, 2015 12:14 AM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com mailto:t...@voltbb.com wrote: speaking as a extra class amateur radio operstor, does anyone else think it's excessive that arpa net or whatever has a /8 issued to them? 16 million some precious ipv4 for testing purposes? I'm always pro ham radio rights, but seriously ? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] saf 11ghz lumina status
Yes. Weak FEC allows for more data, Strong FEC gives you better RX sensitivity. It is a trade off. As ACM works though we only use Strong FEC. I’d recommend using the default ATPC values, you do want some margin between it and the min RX level for the modulation you are engineered at. *** Daniel White SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 3:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] saf 11ghz lumina status does weak FEC or strong FEC impact the workload on the radio any different? This link was overengineered a bit for margin. The manual only shows signal values to modulation unless im looking at the wrong manual. It says I can hit the full 366 with a -62 Would it be pushing my luck to raise that ATPC to a loser value, lowering the overall output power? The default correction limit is 10, so Im assuming I would need to increase that to the maximum -12, does this mean output power would not be able to go any lower than 6? On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: extend the overall life of the radio head That's definitely nice to know! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com mailto:afmu...@gmail.com wrote: Okay so a little knowledge goes a long way :-) The MSE value is fine. There are charts in the manual that describe required MSE per modulation. MSE is something like SNR, but different. Anyways your value is good. ATPC is a great tool. Number one failure of any radio is related to the TX part of the radio… so the lower the TX power, the less stress on vital components. I absolutely recommend ATPC, on any vendors radio (assuming it is implemented well) to extend the overall life of the radio head. Hope that all helps! *** Daniel White SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 tel:%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 12:53 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] saf 11ghz lumina status this is just over a ten mile hop, it had gotten out of alignment we went up. the target was -43 on the original install and we met that then, no degredation since we realigned it. I had never turned on ATPC, but when it was out of alignment one side was -54 and still at full modulataion, so I turned it on with the target 50-55, TX power is now staying at 8. I wonder though if that stress value is something I should be concerned about, I dont know what is good or bad. I like keeping things neat on the rf side where I can, having that extra 10db power seems reasonable for fade, but I dont want to be cooking a chipset doing so -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. _ https://www.avast.com/antivirus This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] saf 11ghz lumina status
Also theoretically reduces interference. ATPC even on unlicensed links is a good idea. *** Daniel White SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 1:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] saf 11ghz lumina status extend the overall life of the radio head That's definitely nice to know! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com mailto:afmu...@gmail.com wrote: Okay so a little knowledge goes a long way :-) The MSE value is fine. There are charts in the manual that describe required MSE per modulation. MSE is something like SNR, but different. Anyways your value is good. ATPC is a great tool. Number one failure of any radio is related to the TX part of the radio… so the lower the TX power, the less stress on vital components. I absolutely recommend ATPC, on any vendors radio (assuming it is implemented well) to extend the overall life of the radio head. Hope that all helps! *** Daniel White SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 tel:%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 12:53 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] saf 11ghz lumina status this is just over a ten mile hop, it had gotten out of alignment we went up. the target was -43 on the original install and we met that then, no degredation since we realigned it. I had never turned on ATPC, but when it was out of alignment one side was -54 and still at full modulataion, so I turned it on with the target 50-55, TX power is now staying at 8. I wonder though if that stress value is something I should be concerned about, I dont know what is good or bad. I like keeping things neat on the rf side where I can, having that extra 10db power seems reasonable for fade, but I dont want to be cooking a chipset doing so -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. _ https://www.avast.com/antivirus This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com https://www.avast.com/antivirus --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] saf 11ghz lumina status
I was under the impression Canopy (450, not EPMP) did that today. I’d guess LTE systems maybe do as well? Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 5:31 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] saf 11ghz lumina status A great idea. I'm one of those that think it should be required in 802.11. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 24, 2015 7:29 PM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com mailto:afmu...@gmail.com wrote: Also theoretically reduces interference. ATPC even on unlicensed links is a good idea. *** Daniel White SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 tel:%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 1:35 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] saf 11ghz lumina status extend the overall life of the radio head That's definitely nice to know! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com mailto:afmu...@gmail.com wrote: Okay so a little knowledge goes a long way :-) The MSE value is fine. There are charts in the manual that describe required MSE per modulation. MSE is something like SNR, but different. Anyways your value is good. ATPC is a great tool. Number one failure of any radio is related to the TX part of the radio… so the lower the TX power, the less stress on vital components. I absolutely recommend ATPC, on any vendors radio (assuming it is implemented well) to extend the overall life of the radio head. Hope that all helps! *** Daniel White SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 tel:%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 12:53 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] saf 11ghz lumina status this is just over a ten mile hop, it had gotten out of alignment we went up. the target was -43 on the original install and we met that then, no degredation since we realigned it. I had never turned on ATPC, but when it was out of alignment one side was -54 and still at full modulataion, so I turned it on with the target 50-55, TX power is now staying at 8. I wonder though if that stress value is something I should be concerned about, I dont know what is good or bad. I like keeping things neat on the rf side where I can, having that extra 10db power seems reasonable for fade, but I dont want to be cooking a chipset doing so -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. _ https://www.avast.com/antivirus This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com https://www.avast.com/antivirus _ https://www.avast.com/antivirus This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com https://www.avast.com/antivirus --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] OT Guerilla Marketing
I get spam from a variety of manufacturers to my inbox on a daily basis. Key is the subject line so they open it. I delete a lot without even looking at it. But since it is basically free to do, then no harm in doing it (unless you're afraid of your domain being blacklisted). Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 1:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT Guerilla Marketing I spend some time each day trying to figure out how to get my products marketed. Have a nice new shiny paper catalog just about done and will be mailing it to those interested. My question is - Is spam dead? I have several nice lists of people (all of you included). If I sent a brief note to several thousand people saying something like: Dear (Spam Target): Thanks for attending Animal Farm.Wispapalloza/ etc etc. I have a new catalog (available here url pdf etc). Would you like to receive a real one in the mail? With all my best wishes (over the top complementary closing etc). Chuck Would that offend? Would that get scraped off by gmail etc? Is there a better way? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] saf 11ghz lumina status
Okay so a little knowledge goes a long way :-) The MSE value is fine. There are charts in the manual that describe required MSE per modulation. MSE is something like SNR, but different. Anyways your value is good. ATPC is a great tool. Number one failure of any radio is related to the TX part of the radio… so the lower the TX power, the less stress on vital components. I absolutely recommend ATPC, on any vendors radio (assuming it is implemented well) to extend the overall life of the radio head. Hope that all helps! *** Daniel White SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn *** From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 12:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] saf 11ghz lumina status this is just over a ten mile hop, it had gotten out of alignment we went up. the target was -43 on the original install and we met that then, no degredation since we realigned it. I had never turned on ATPC, but when it was out of alignment one side was -54 and still at full modulataion, so I turned it on with the target 50-55, TX power is now staying at 8. I wonder though if that stress value is something I should be concerned about, I dont know what is good or bad. I like keeping things neat on the rf side where I can, having that extra 10db power seems reasonable for fade, but I dont want to be cooking a chipset doing so -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
Not another Star Trek reboot…
Daniel White
(303) 746-3590
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 2:28 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
Would be interesting to be able to go back and kill certain individuals
throughout history and observe the effect.
But you would be creating a whole new timeline each time you did it.
I guess that is like having many copies of the same thing on your hard disk.
How large is our hard disk?
From: Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 12:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
Kill Sarah Connor.
From: Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 1:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
You can always come back and feed key information to your past self.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 6/15/2015 10:09 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:
But if I don't keep working on it, it will never exist in the future!
On 6/15/2015 10:52 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Why do we have to wait until 2016? can't you just bring one back to now once
you get it working? Since you we can't already buy one, I have to assume it
doesn't work... you might as well just give up on it.
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 10:46 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:
Holy jeeze!! simon gave a project feature timeline? did hell freeze over?
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 11:41 PM, Simon Westlake
simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com mailto:simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com
wrote:
Alright, carrier grade time machine coming 2016!
On Jun 14, 2015 10:16 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com
mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Oh, bad memory... bad memory...
Yeah, love to do some selective editing
From: That One Guy /sarcasm mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 6:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
Well, don't stop completely, Theres a few nights at the bar I'd like to go back
and alter some mating choices on.
On Jun 14, 2015 6:48 PM, Simon Westlake simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com
mailto:simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com wrote:
Whoops, I guess I better stop working on this time machine then...
On Jun 14, 2015 6:16 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:
yeah, dont go disrupting the space time continuum, WISP market GOOD, time
fabric BAD
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com
mailto:af...@kwisp.com wrote:
There are Romulan and Klingon disruptors.
From: Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:23 PM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
Any besides Ubnt?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jun 13, 2015 4:50 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com mailto:af...@kwisp.com
wrote:
“Disrupt”? Some manufacturers always say their new products will be
disruptive, so apparently that’s a good thing. Bottom line same as dominate
though.
From: Simon Westlake mailto:simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 3:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
Why does it have to dominate? That's such a harsh word!
On 6/13/2015 9:51 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Simon and Danny have to be creating a new company that will dominate the WISP
market.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jun 13, 2015 10:38 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com
mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Ouray Colorada
From: Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
Thanks Jeff and Jaime. Appreciate the kind words.
I’ll let everyone know when I land somewhere. Who knows, I might go crazy and
start a WISP somewhere :-)
Daniel White
(303) 746-3590
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf
Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
You've been a great advocate for both SAF and our industry Daniel! I hope you
are able to stay plugged in. We need as many great guys like you as we can get!
Jeff Broadwick
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
312-205-2519 tel:312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 tel:574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@converge-tech.com mailto:jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
You don’t want me involved in Politics lol Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 1:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter Maybe Simon and Daniel are going to work for Hilary ? /ducking at the poor topic commentary to come perhaps :) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 11:46 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter Holy jeeze!! simon gave a project feature timeline? did hell freeze over? On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 11:41 PM, Simon Westlake simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com mailto:simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com wrote: Alright, carrier grade time machine coming 2016! On Jun 14, 2015 10:16 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Oh, bad memory... bad memory... Yeah, love to do some selective editing From: That One Guy /sarcasm mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 6:16 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter Well, don't stop completely, Theres a few nights at the bar I'd like to go back and alter some mating choices on. On Jun 14, 2015 6:48 PM, Simon Westlake simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com mailto:simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com wrote: Whoops, I guess I better stop working on this time machine then... On Jun 14, 2015 6:16 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: yeah, dont go disrupting the space time continuum, WISP market GOOD, time fabric BAD On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com mailto:af...@kwisp.com wrote: There are Romulan and Klingon disruptors. From: Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:23 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter Any besides Ubnt? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 13, 2015 4:50 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com mailto:af...@kwisp.com wrote: “Disrupt”? Some manufacturers always say their new products will be disruptive, so apparently that’s a good thing. Bottom line same as dominate though. From: Simon Westlake mailto:simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 3:18 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter Why does it have to dominate? That's such a harsh word! On 6/13/2015 9:51 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Simon and Danny have to be creating a new company that will dominate the WISP market. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 13, 2015 10:38 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Ouray Colorada From: Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:33 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter Thanks Jeff and Jaime. Appreciate the kind words. I’ll let everyone know when I land somewhere. Who knows, I might go crazy and start a WISP somewhere :-) Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:53 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter You've been a great advocate for both SAF and our industry Daniel! I hope you are able to stay plugged in. We need as many great guys like you as we can get! Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 tel:312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 tel:574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com mailto:jbroadw...@converge-tech.com On Jun 13, 2015, at 7:27 AM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com mailto:afmu...@gmail.com wrote: The current thread onlist made me realize I had not notified the group about a major change for me personally. It is with mixed emotions that I am writing this email to inform you of my decision to pursue a different direction in my career and will be departing SAF Tehnika effective Tuesday, June 30th, 2015. I have truly enjoyed working for SAF for the past 3 years, and hold the highest regards for the people I have worked with and the integrity they employ in producing some of the finest microwave radios and test equipment products in the world. But it is time to spread my wings in a new environment with new challenges. I’m not sure where my career will take me at this time, and I am exploring many options that are mostly still in the wireless broadband space. My cell phone and Skype ID will remain the same, and you can
Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
Only on this list would an email like this turn into a topic like that :-) Hotel California baby! Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 12:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter Sounds like Futurama and the forward time machine. http://theinfosphere.org/Forward_time_machine From: Mathew Howard mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 10:52 AM To: af mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter Why do we have to wait until 2016? can't you just bring one back to now once you get it working? Since you we can't already buy one, I have to assume it doesn't work... you might as well just give up on it. On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 10:46 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: Holy jeeze!! simon gave a project feature timeline? did hell freeze over? On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 11:41 PM, Simon Westlake simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com mailto:simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com wrote: Alright, carrier grade time machine coming 2016! On Jun 14, 2015 10:16 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Oh, bad memory... bad memory... Yeah, love to do some selective editing From: That One Guy /sarcasm mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 6:16 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter Well, don't stop completely, Theres a few nights at the bar I'd like to go back and alter some mating choices on. On Jun 14, 2015 6:48 PM, Simon Westlake simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com mailto:simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com wrote: Whoops, I guess I better stop working on this time machine then... On Jun 14, 2015 6:16 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: yeah, dont go disrupting the space time continuum, WISP market GOOD, time fabric BAD On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com mailto:af...@kwisp.com wrote: There are Romulan and Klingon disruptors. From: Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:23 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter Any besides Ubnt? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 13, 2015 4:50 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com mailto:af...@kwisp.com wrote: “Disrupt”? Some manufacturers always say their new products will be disruptive, so apparently that’s a good thing. Bottom line same as dominate though. From: Simon Westlake mailto:simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 3:18 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter Why does it have to dominate? That's such a harsh word! On 6/13/2015 9:51 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Simon and Danny have to be creating a new company that will dominate the WISP market. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 13, 2015 10:38 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Ouray Colorada From: Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:33 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter Thanks Jeff and Jaime. Appreciate the kind words. I’ll let everyone know when I land somewhere. Who knows, I might go crazy and start a WISP somewhere :-) Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:53 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter You've been a great advocate for both SAF and our industry Daniel! I hope you are able to stay plugged in. We need as many great guys like you as we can get! Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 tel:312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 tel:574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com mailto:jbroadw...@converge-tech.com On Jun 13, 2015, at 7:27 AM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com mailto:afmu...@gmail.com wrote: The current thread onlist made me realize I had not notified the group about a major change for me personally. It is with mixed emotions that I am writing this email to inform you of my decision to pursue a different direction in my career and will be departing SAF Tehnika effective Tuesday, June 30th, 2015. I have truly enjoyed working for SAF for the past 3 years, and hold the highest regards for the people I have worked with and the integrity they employ in producing some of the finest
Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
Thanks Jeff and Jaime. Appreciate the kind words. I’ll let everyone know when I land somewhere. Who knows, I might go crazy and start a WISP somewhere :-) Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter You've been a great advocate for both SAF and our industry Daniel! I hope you are able to stay plugged in. We need as many great guys like you as we can get! Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com mailto:jbroadw...@converge-tech.com On Jun 13, 2015, at 7:27 AM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com mailto:afmu...@gmail.com wrote: The current thread onlist made me realize I had not notified the group about a major change for me personally. It is with mixed emotions that I am writing this email to inform you of my decision to pursue a different direction in my career and will be departing SAF Tehnika effective Tuesday, June 30th, 2015. I have truly enjoyed working for SAF for the past 3 years, and hold the highest regards for the people I have worked with and the integrity they employ in producing some of the finest microwave radios and test equipment products in the world. But it is time to spread my wings in a new environment with new challenges. I’m not sure where my career will take me at this time, and I am exploring many options that are mostly still in the wireless broadband space. My cell phone and Skype ID will remain the same, and you can personally reach out to me via e-mail at danieldeanwh...@gmail.com mailto:danieldeanwh...@gmail.com . SAF is investing significantly more resources in North America this year and I expect you will see a boost in their support for you and your business. The entire SAF North America sales team can always be contacted via e-mail at sale...@saftehnika.com mailto:sale...@saftehnika.com or our technical support team is available by e-mail at techsupp...@saftehnika.com mailto:techsupp...@saftehnika.com . I wish you and your company success and hope that we may cross paths again in the future. I plan to still hang out here, although I may lurk in the shadows for awhile. *** Daniel White SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn *** _ https://www.avast.com/antivirus This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com https://www.avast.com/antivirus --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
Best theory ever :-D https://youtu.be/qzZmU0aGmcc Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:52 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter Simon and Danny have to be creating a new company that will dominate the WISP market. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 13, 2015 10:38 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Ouray Colorada From: Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:33 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter Thanks Jeff and Jaime. Appreciate the kind words. I’ll let everyone know when I land somewhere. Who knows, I might go crazy and start a WISP somewhere :-) Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:53 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter You've been a great advocate for both SAF and our industry Daniel! I hope you are able to stay plugged in. We need as many great guys like you as we can get! Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 tel:312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 tel:574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com mailto:jbroadw...@converge-tech.com On Jun 13, 2015, at 7:27 AM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com mailto:afmu...@gmail.com wrote: The current thread onlist made me realize I had not notified the group about a major change for me personally. It is with mixed emotions that I am writing this email to inform you of my decision to pursue a different direction in my career and will be departing SAF Tehnika effective Tuesday, June 30th, 2015. I have truly enjoyed working for SAF for the past 3 years, and hold the highest regards for the people I have worked with and the integrity they employ in producing some of the finest microwave radios and test equipment products in the world. But it is time to spread my wings in a new environment with new challenges. I’m not sure where my career will take me at this time, and I am exploring many options that are mostly still in the wireless broadband space. My cell phone and Skype ID will remain the same, and you can personally reach out to me via e-mail at danieldeanwh...@gmail.com mailto:danieldeanwh...@gmail.com . SAF is investing significantly more resources in North America this year and I expect you will see a boost in their support for you and your business. The entire SAF North America sales team can always be contacted via e-mail at sale...@saftehnika.com mailto:sale...@saftehnika.com or our technical support team is available by e-mail at techsupp...@saftehnika.com mailto:techsupp...@saftehnika.com . I wish you and your company success and hope that we may cross paths again in the future. I plan to still hang out here, although I may lurk in the shadows for awhile. *** Daniel White SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** _ https://www.avast.com/antivirus This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com https://www.avast.com/antivirus _ https://www.avast.com/antivirus This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com https://www.avast.com/antivirus --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
My vote is Simon being the brain :-D Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 10:15 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter So which are you? From: Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 11:04 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter Best theory ever :-D https://youtu.be/qzZmU0aGmcc Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:52 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter Simon and Danny have to be creating a new company that will dominate the WISP market. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 13, 2015 10:38 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Ouray Colorada From: Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:33 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter Thanks Jeff and Jaime. Appreciate the kind words. I’ll let everyone know when I land somewhere. Who knows, I might go crazy and start a WISP somewhere :-) Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:53 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter You've been a great advocate for both SAF and our industry Daniel! I hope you are able to stay plugged in. We need as many great guys like you as we can get! Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 tel:312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 tel:574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com mailto:jbroadw...@converge-tech.com On Jun 13, 2015, at 7:27 AM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com mailto:afmu...@gmail.com wrote: The current thread onlist made me realize I had not notified the group about a major change for me personally. It is with mixed emotions that I am writing this email to inform you of my decision to pursue a different direction in my career and will be departing SAF Tehnika effective Tuesday, June 30th, 2015. I have truly enjoyed working for SAF for the past 3 years, and hold the highest regards for the people I have worked with and the integrity they employ in producing some of the finest microwave radios and test equipment products in the world. But it is time to spread my wings in a new environment with new challenges. I’m not sure where my career will take me at this time, and I am exploring many options that are mostly still in the wireless broadband space. My cell phone and Skype ID will remain the same, and you can personally reach out to me via e-mail at danieldeanwh...@gmail.com mailto:danieldeanwh...@gmail.com . SAF is investing significantly more resources in North America this year and I expect you will see a boost in their support for you and your business. The entire SAF North America sales team can always be contacted via e-mail at sale...@saftehnika.com mailto:sale...@saftehnika.com or our technical support team is available by e-mail at techsupp...@saftehnika.com mailto:techsupp...@saftehnika.com . I wish you and your company success and hope that we may cross paths again in the future. I plan to still hang out here, although I may lurk in the shadows for awhile. *** Daniel White SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** _ https://www.avast.com/antivirus This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com https://www.avast.com/antivirus _ https://www.avast.com/antivirus This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com https://www.avast.com/antivirus _ https://www.avast.com/antivirus This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com https://www.avast.com/antivirus --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] Saf lumina xpic
I’d also note, techsupp...@saftehnika.com mailto:techsupp...@saftehnika.com responds to e-mails 24/7, although there are admittingly fewer resources during the weekends and off hours than during normal business hours. *** Daniel White SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 1:50 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Saf lumina xpic Jeez, u think I'm an idiot, this isn't the ubiquiti forums! :) On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:49 AM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com mailto:t...@voltbb.com wrote: nope On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:44 AM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Probably on the website in the support area? On Jun 12, 2015 11:03 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com mailto:t...@voltbb.com wrote: Does saf have any installation documentation for xpic? On Jun 12, 2015 8:44 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Yes. Cuts into beer drinking time. Tonight I am drinking Carta Blanca and watching Hangar 1. Jaime Solorza On Jun 12, 2015 8:47 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Shouldn't ask questions like this late in the day on a Friday... I've made no change Fridays virtually mandatory around here. On Jun 12, 2015 6:27 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com mailto:t...@voltbb.com wrote: No one has xpic luminas they can login to? On Jun 12, 2015 6:58 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: No idea. Email and they'll answer I'm sure. Phone call can't hurt if you're eager. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 12, 2015 9:38 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com mailto:t...@voltbb.com wrote: They available ? On Jun 12, 2015 6:37 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Call SAF support? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 12, 2015 9:36 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com mailto:t...@voltbb.com wrote: Could anyone post a screen shot of a successful xpic configuration setting? We just added the omt coupler and second polarity and when inputting the aggrigation settings we loose connectivity to both radios! --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
[AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
The current thread onlist made me realize I had not notified the group about a major change for me personally. It is with mixed emotions that I am writing this email to inform you of my decision to pursue a different direction in my career and will be departing SAF Tehnika effective Tuesday, June 30th, 2015. I have truly enjoyed working for SAF for the past 3 years, and hold the highest regards for the people I have worked with and the integrity they employ in producing some of the finest microwave radios and test equipment products in the world. But it is time to spread my wings in a new environment with new challenges. I'm not sure where my career will take me at this time, and I am exploring many options that are mostly still in the wireless broadband space. My cell phone and Skype ID will remain the same, and you can personally reach out to me via e-mail at danieldeanwh...@gmail.com mailto:danieldeanwh...@gmail.com . SAF is investing significantly more resources in North America this year and I expect you will see a boost in their support for you and your business. The entire SAF North America sales team can always be contacted via e-mail at sale...@saftehnika.com mailto:sale...@saftehnika.com or our technical support team is available by e-mail at techsupp...@saftehnika.com mailto:techsupp...@saftehnika.com . I wish you and your company success and hope that we may cross paths again in the future. I plan to still hang out here, although I may lurk in the shadows for awhile. *** Daniel White SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn *** --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP VoIP QoS
I started feeling like an old man lately, now I know why :-D Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2015 2:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP VoIP QoS This industry turns you into an old man. :) If you were on Michael's P15 lists, you're an old man around here. On 6/7/2015 2:44 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Until I met you, I thought you were an old man. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix _ From: George Skorup mailto:geo...@cbcast.com geo...@cbcast.com To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2015 2:41:29 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP VoIP QoS I'm 30 and I listen to stuff like Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Bad Company and newer stuff like Metallica and Alice in Chains. I did like some of the pop crap in the '90s, but I was a kid, and stupid. These kids today and the garbage they listen to. It's disgusting. Now I sound like an old fart. Get off my lawn! On 6/7/2015 2:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I kind of tuned out from music in the 70’s. Too much ABBA, Bee Gees and Donna Summer. Still hear “Hot Stuff” on the radio though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPlV2dzXWCw My familiarity with the Allman Brothers Band comes mainly from their work with Eric Clapton. From: George Skorup mailto:geo...@cbcast.com Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 1:52 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP VoIP QoS I thought you were an old fart and knew everything about the '70s? :) On 6/7/2015 1:22 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: A, was not familiar with that song. Nice. But consulting the interwebs, this would be the definitive version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUvxRjYqjEQ I also like the Wikipedia entry on “whipping boy”, I didn’t realize princes had whipping boys who were punished when the prince misbehaved. From: George Skorup mailto:geo...@cbcast.com Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 1:04 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP VoIP QoS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pCytK3LgfM On 6/7/2015 7:33 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: It's always our fault. scape·goat ˈskāpˌɡōt/ noun noun: scapegoat; plural noun: scapegoats 1. (in the Bible) a goat sent into the wilderness after the Jewish chief priest had symbolically laid the sins of the people upon it (Lev. 16). * a person who is blamed for the wrongdoings, mistakes, or faults of others, especially for reasons of expediency. synonyms: whipping boy; * -Original Message- From: George Skorup Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2015 11:17 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP VoIP QoS I disagree. This is exactly what Canopy does. DSCP12/AF is sent over the HP channel. Look at the default DiffServ table and see for yourself. Many managed switches are set up exactly the same way, except they have more queues, and Canopy only has MIR and HP. Well, there's LP CIR, but lets not get into that. ePMP just has priority which I assume means priority over everything else. I need a way to correct stupid manufacturer's mistakes (Grandstream being the worst offender). Lots of their devices ALWAYS send SIP packets as DSCP12 and this CANNOT be changed. Or the other one I mentioned, the GXP phones have one DSCP setting and this changes both SIP and RTP. I'm disgusted with their stupidity, but unfortunately it has to be supported because those devices aren't going away. It's totally doable and Cambium could add it by default, saving me time configuring every radio with it. Or just make DiffServ on ePMP work/configure like Canopy. I don't care what's wrong or right. I care about shit working right now and customers not being pissy. So the burden falls on the network as usual. It's always our fault. Sometimes I just don't know how I haven't murdered people. If I drank, it would probably happen. And I'm finding myself agreeing with that one guy Steve every other day now. Stupidity has no limit. On 6/6/2015 10:31 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Yo Cambium, you need to add DSCP 12 (Assured Forwarding) in addition to DSCP 46 (Expedited Forwarding) to the default VoIP priority configuration. That would be a mistake and the wrong thing to do. We're finding more devices sending SIP packets as AF and RTP as EF. When a device is mis-configured, why should the burden of dealing with that mis-configurtion as a default fall on another device There is plenty of flexibility to override the wrong setup of a device
Re: [AFMUG] LA Times - LAX approves contract to upgrade airport Wi-Fi
A380 is a nice plane to fly on. But I’ll take the 787 anytime. Man I fly too much. Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Caleb Knauer Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2015 3:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LA Times - LAX approves contract to upgrade airport Wi-Fi Ugh, ORD gives me a headache too. ATL isn't my home base anymore but I route through there a lot and miss it. Yeah it's huge but simple and a million places to eat and kill time. I did get to see a couple of A380's on the way in though which was my first. What an odd looking bird. I will say I really appreciate these little regional airports I've been through lately. Nice being able to drop a rental and be at your gate in 10 minutes. On Sunday, June 7, 2015, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: O'Hare is the busiest if you count take offs and landings as opposed to passengers. I'm not the biggest fan of flying out of there, however. On Sunday, June 7, 2015, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@kwisp.com'); wrote: Haha, I am old enough to remember when MDW was the world’s busiest airport. Until the day the runways were too short for the 707 and DC8, and it became a ghost town overnight. From: Paul Stewart Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 8:17 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LA Times - LAX approves contract toupgrade airport Wi-Fi I try my best to avoid LAX if it’s possible – obviously for a number of destinations it can’t be avoided :) My “homebase” airport at YYZ (Pearson) I used to complain about but it’s gotten better – way better than a number of the other International airports out there though… Personal favorite would be DXB despite it being the world’s busiest airport Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Daniel White Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2015 7:52 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LA Times - LAX approves contract to upgrade airport Wi-Fi LAX is always a more than just a bit of a mess :-D I think the only way to fix it is to bulldoze it and start over. MCI (Kansas City) is also a horrible airport design, at least for today’s modern TSA requirements (security checkpoint for almost every gate). Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Caleb Knauer Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2015 2:10 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LA Times - LAX approves contract to upgrade airport Wi-Fi Was there yesterday and it was terrible. The whole airport is a bit of a mess. On Saturday, June 6, 2015, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: I want 300 at home. Dont know why I need it but I will be a cool dude. http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-83714083/ Jaime Solorza _ https://www.avast.com/antivirus This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com https://www.avast.com/antivirus --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] Coverage maps
I used to do this with EDX… great tool. Steep learning curve. Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 9:37 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Coverage maps Radio Mobile is good for simple, basic maps. For comprehensive mapping, you need the hardcore professional tools like Hexagon, or Lepton, or Mentum, or... Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 11:29 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Coverage maps Radio Mobile and GIS tools. Otherwise, Brian Webster. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix _ From: Brett A Mansfield li...@silverlakeinternet.com mailto:li...@silverlakeinternet.com To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 10:27:03 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Coverage maps What does everyone use to create your coverage maps? I'd like to get some really nice ones. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] LA Times - LAX approves contract to upgrade airport Wi-Fi
LAX is always a more than just a bit of a mess :-D I think the only way to fix it is to bulldoze it and start over. MCI (Kansas City) is also a horrible airport design, at least for today’s modern TSA requirements (security checkpoint for almost every gate). Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Caleb Knauer Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2015 2:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LA Times - LAX approves contract to upgrade airport Wi-Fi Was there yesterday and it was terrible. The whole airport is a bit of a mess. On Saturday, June 6, 2015, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: I want 300 at home. Dont know why I need it but I will be a cool dude. http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-83714083/ Jaime Solorza --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] Power beamed to camera via ambient wi-fi signals -BBC News
When I moved into my house 4 years ago I thought about pulling fiber to each room… instead did CAT6. If the WiGiG AP’s have SFP ports on them, I might change my tune considering how inexpensive media converters or switches are becoming. Biggest expense would be that 24 port SFP switch. UBNT I’d love one of those :-D Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 9:19 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Power beamed to camera via ambient wi-fi signals -BBC News WiFi interference is getting so bad in some areas (like multitenant buildings and dense subdivisions) that I predict a revolutionary new technology will become popular: wires. At one time, it was a mark of a high end custom home that it was wired for data. Now people view wired data as kind of a Steampunk technology, for the same people who play vinyl records. But maybe we will see a resurgence. I’m thinking the home with a Tesla in the garage should have fiber in the walls and WiGig APs in every room, with fiber ports at the home office, entertainment center and server/media closet for the serious electronics. That WiFi stuff was great until the rabble got it. Similar to the Arab oil embargo in the 70’s which caused a shortage of plastic, I remember the company I worked for at the time was looking at a new miracle material to replace woodgrain plastic cabinets: actual wood. Like a Spruce Goose for your living room. From: Patrick Leary mailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 9:55 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Power beamed to camera via ambient wi-fi signals -BBC News As hard as it is to accept it (and you Jaime of course know this so the post is not directed to you) it pays to remember at times like this that Part 15.247 is not the Wi-Fi band. The rules allow for anything within the Grand Canyon scale broadness of the technical rules. Even with the billions of dollars invested, deployed and dependent on Wi-Fi, it remains just as much an opportunistic resident on ISM (and to some extent UNII) as anything else. In other words, one person's noise is another person's symphony. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 10:39 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Power beamed to camera via ambient wi-fi signals - BBC News http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-33020523 Jaime Solorza This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Ants in Radios
I’d be worried about OSHA and having MSDS sheets on file. Mothballs could be the same situation. Poison in any form seems like an unnecessary risk to your employees and company. Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 11:00 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Ants in Radios granular poison Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies m...@mailmt.com mailto:m...@mailmt.com wrote: Ryan, I've heard a mothball would work. The well guys do taht around here to keep them out of the well controllers. We are going to start trying in with our outdoor fiber units. Not sure if it will interact with the plastic. -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com http://www.MyakkaTech.com Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL Please Donate at Please Donate at http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html -- Thursday, June 4, 2015, 11:51:07 AM, you wrote: R We are having problems with ants taking up a nest inside of our R radios, has anyone come across a good solution of sealing the R antennas up to keep them out? This is what we are dealing with: R ï¿œ R ï¿œ R Ryan R Fourway.net --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. https://www.avast.com/antivirus --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Ants in Radios
By no means am I an OSHA or MSDS expert. More or less just pointing out something that could be a concern. OSHA only applies to the workplace though… so just keep your mothballs at home :-D Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 3:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Ants in Radios What if you put a warning label on a tupperware box with mothballs? Are you in the clear? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com mailto:afmu...@gmail.com wrote: I’d be worried about OSHA and having MSDS sheets on file. Mothballs could be the same situation. Poison in any form seems like an unnecessary risk to your employees and company. Daniel White (303) 746-3590 tel:%28303%29%20746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 11:00 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Ants in Radios granular poison Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 tel:915-861-1390 On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies m...@mailmt.com mailto:m...@mailmt.com wrote: Ryan, I've heard a mothball would work. The well guys do taht around here to keep them out of the well controllers. We are going to start trying in with our outdoor fiber units. Not sure if it will interact with the plastic. -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com http://www.MyakkaTech.com Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL Please Donate at Please Donate at http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html -- Thursday, June 4, 2015, 11:51:07 AM, you wrote: R We are having problems with ants taking up a nest inside of our R radios, has anyone come across a good solution of sealing the R antennas up to keep them out? This is what we are dealing with: R ï¿œ R ï¿œ R Ryan R Fourway.net --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _ https://www.avast.com/antivirus This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com https://www.avast.com/antivirus --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LinkPlanner and Licensed Frequencies
That is the beauty of the West. Actually in many cases 11GHz outperforms 6GHz out here. Rain fade is low, so multipath fading is the bigger concern. Once you hit Central USA (say East of the Rockies) rain fade increases to the point that is no longer true most of the time. *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 9:22 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LinkPlanner and Licensed Frequencies 29 miles and 4 footers? Sweet!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us mailto:af...@zirkel.us wrote: We have a 29 mile shot using 11ghz and 4 foot dishes. It's currently a dragonwave but we are switching to SAF integra 2+0 gigabit link this summer. Path calcs show four 9's+ uptime. We are in NW CO. 2 cents On Thursday, June 4, 2015, Rory McCann rmm.li...@gmail.com mailto:rmm.li...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, Running into a strange problem with LinkPlanner. I have a couple of exisitng 5GHz links I'm looking at replacing with a licensed solution - one of which is about 27 miles. According to LinkPlanner this shot should be no problem (granted not with more than 3 9s of uptime, which is fine considering I have redundancy via another path) using 3 foot dishes, but the SAF engineers are telling me my only option is 6GHz with 6 foot dishes using the same parameters. The best the engineers at SAF could promise was about 150Mbps on Integra, whereas according to LinkPlanner I can get over 800Mbps using an 820s. Is LinkPlanner this far off, or are there some special knobs I need to turn to get real-world results? Or is Cambium somehow that much superior to the other products out there? -- Rory McCann MKAP Technology Solutions Web: www.mkap.net http://www.mkap.net --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LinkPlanner and Licensed Frequencies
Rory, Sometimes our engineers in Latvia are not the best at communicating expectations. Of course with no fade, our equipment, just like any other manufacturers, will deliver max capacity. The question is one of availability. We don't engineer three 9's links unless specifically told to, and even then we fight it. We also only engineer links with at least 20dB of fade margin (this is an old school rule of thumb). I've never seen anyone truly happy with anything less than four 9's honestly. Also yes there are a lot of knobs and adjustments you can make to Pathloss (the vendor neutral program we use) and LinkPlanner to get considerably different results. If you want to send me the LinkPlanner file I'm happy to discuss the differences offlist with you between the two calculations and also set the conditions of each profile the same to show you what you're getting. *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn *** -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory McCann Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 7:00 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium LinkPlanner and Licensed Frequencies Hey guys, Running into a strange problem with LinkPlanner. I have a couple of exisitng 5GHz links I'm looking at replacing with a licensed solution - one of which is about 27 miles. According to LinkPlanner this shot should be no problem (granted not with more than 3 9s of uptime, which is fine considering I have redundancy via another path) using 3 foot dishes, but the SAF engineers are telling me my only option is 6GHz with 6 foot dishes using the same parameters. The best the engineers at SAF could promise was about 150Mbps on Integra, whereas according to LinkPlanner I can get over 800Mbps using an 820s. Is LinkPlanner this far off, or are there some special knobs I need to turn to get real-world results? Or is Cambium somehow that much superior to the other products out there? -- Rory McCann MKAP Technology Solutions Web: www.mkap.net --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LinkPlanner and Licensed Frequencies
Right but you also need to specific capacity, which is a common error I see in LinkPlanner files sent to me. I suspect we are not comparing 1024QAM modulation to 1024QAM modulation. Josh is also right. 6GHz and 11GHz have uptime requirements that have to be met along with utilization requirements. *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory McCann Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 7:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LinkPlanner and Licensed Frequencies You can specify channel size and 1+0, 2+0 etc in the link description. Also LinkPlanner lists the minimum uptime threshold and if you fail to meet it the link becomes red. Rory McCann MKAP Technology Solutions Web: www.mkap.net http://www.mkap.net On 6/4/2015 8:04 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Doesn't the 820 bond channels and such? I guess two 80s for that kind of throughput? 27 miles is going to be 6 footers in 6 GHz. You need a certain threshold of uptime for licenses. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 4, 2015 9:00 AM, Rory McCann rmm.li...@gmail.com mailto:rmm.li...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, Running into a strange problem with LinkPlanner. I have a couple of exisitng 5GHz links I'm looking at replacing with a licensed solution - one of which is about 27 miles. According to LinkPlanner this shot should be no problem (granted not with more than 3 9s of uptime, which is fine considering I have redundancy via another path) using 3 foot dishes, but the SAF engineers are telling me my only option is 6GHz with 6 foot dishes using the same parameters. The best the engineers at SAF could promise was about 150Mbps on Integra, whereas according to LinkPlanner I can get over 800Mbps using an 820s. Is LinkPlanner this far off, or are there some special knobs I need to turn to get real-world results? Or is Cambium somehow that much superior to the other products out there? -- Rory McCann MKAP Technology Solutions Web: www.mkap.net http://www.mkap.net --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] Portable Wifi Bridge and/or Router.
I’ve used a UBNT picostation for things like this before Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Monday, June 1, 2015 1:53 PM To: af Subject: [AFMUG] Portable Wifi Bridge and/or Router. Question for those of you who deal with WiFi devices a lot more than I do: I am in the market for a small WiFi access point which I can use primarily to connect a small Ethernet network to wireless devices (tablets, phones). This is a trade show application - aka 2-3 Ethernet demo devices attached via WiFi. I'm looking for small, light, and although battery would be nice occasionally, wall power is a must, even if it is just leave it plugged into the charger while operating. I'm going to be flying with this device so I don't want something large and clunky. Bonus for a device which will also act as a wifi client/nat router at the same time aka act as a WISP client AND at the same time act as an AP. Not sure if this exists or is even possible with current hardware. If not, if there's a teensy wisp client out there with ethernet for this type of application, feel free to point me there... My fallback position is probably a RB951, although the new hAP light product is intriguing (not sure if it is even shipping yet). -- Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc. Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602 mailto:forre...@imach.com forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com/ http://www.packetflux.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian http://facebook.com/packetflux http://twitter.com/@packetflux http://ws-stats.appspot.com/t/pixel.png?e=setup_page_outlook_compose http://ws-stats.appspot.com/t/pixel.png?e=setup_page_outlook_activeuid=e965778f9a351fad7a8a860dffc144ce http://ws-stats.appspot.com/t/pixel.png?e=setup_page_outlook_activeuid=e965778f9a351fad7a8a860dffc144ce --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Re: [AFMUG] Mounting a 6 foot dish on a Non Pen.
Good point. If you get crafty, you could affix another mast to the edge of one of the trays for the stabilizer arm. *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Monday, June 1, 2015 1:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mounting a 6 foot dish on a Non Pen. on our 4' dish we had planned on using angle iron vertically in one corner of the tray with struts going down to the two corners left and right for attaching the stabilizer if we needed it On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Sam Lambie samtaos...@gmail.com mailto:samtaos...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, I am looking to mount a 6' dish on a 10' tall mast (4 1/2 OD) at the top of the mast with something like this: https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=504727 Using a Cinderblock tray as the base. My question is, would this work? And how would I keep the dish from twisting on the mast? Sam -- -- Sam Lambie Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 tel:575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com http://www.newmex.com -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Re: [AFMUG] Get Windows 10 icon
On my Windows 8 Pro laptop as well. Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Utick Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 11:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Get Windows 10 icon Yep, have the same icon on my machines here too. On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 11:08 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com mailto:af...@kwisp.com wrote: Has anyone else seen a Get Windows 10 icon mysteriously appear in your Windows 7 System Tray? If I click, it says Reserve your FREE upgrade now, it will download once available. Apparently once it downloads, you get to choose when to install it. That's nice, I'm imagining opening up my laptop to do a presentation and finding it in the midst of upgrading from Windows 7 to 10, which would be quite a change. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution
Just looked it up. Only refers to point-to-point mode that antenna gain must be 33dBi and beam width narrower than 3.5 degrees. Section 15.249 But the limited EIRP makes the band unattractive for PtMP realistically. 60GHz is more likely to happen for small cell backhaul in my opinion. *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 4:33 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution Aren't there antenna beamwidth requirements in 24ghz, or am I remembering that wrong? that would seem to make PtMP kind of impractical. On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 5:30 PM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com mailto:afmu...@gmail.com wrote: I think PtMP is available in 24GHz UL… just there is no vendors for it I am aware of. 38GHz would also work… but I’m not aware of a vendor. There is 24GHz Licensed PtMP gear out there… but its ancient technology and FiberTower is the only spectrum holder I am aware of. 28GHz is probably your only bet. Short range, high cost. But it will hit your capacity requirements. Otherwise you could try 2.5GHz LTE… *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 tel:%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 4:14 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution I'm pretty sure the FCC doesn't allow PtMP in 24ghz. I don't know if anything exists for PtMP in 80ghz... or maybe 60ghz? It seems like the only real option here is 28ghz. On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net mailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote: You can buy spectrum in 28GHz and use Cambridge like Vivato does or depending on how many clients and range you are talking about, maybe something in 24 or 80GHz. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 2:58 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution You know that's why they sync, right? You can have a whole lot of sync'ed APs/masters at the one site and as long as they're transmitting at the same time and the client/slave sites aren't nearing the different master's you'll be fine. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Brett A Mansfield li...@silverlakeinternet.com mailto:li...@silverlakeinternet.com wrote: That is exactly what I'm looking for. I need something inexpensive comparatively and it needs to be PtMP. I could use airfibers if I could do PTP, but that would be FAR too many radios in one location competing for airtime. Josh, I currently use 3.65, but I need high capacity. 80Mb at best is not near enough. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On May 29, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com mailto:afmu...@gmail.com wrote: You’re looking for licensed PtMP backhaul? If that is the case, then CCS has a 28GHz offering with StraightPath. But not sure what you’re looking at price wise. You may just investigate multiple 23GHz shots or something similar depending on distance. Just want to make sure the request is clear. *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 tel:%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:42 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution I'm looking for backhaul. Anything in 2.4 or 5GHz won't work. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On May 29, 2015, at 3:35 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: EPMP and maybe Ubnt AC Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy
Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution
You never know… you might push one of the many manufacturers on here to develop such a product. Million dollar PO’s can push smaller manufacturers to do a lot of things. Also remember besides profit, we all have limited resources to focus on so many things. SAF was first or second to market on many things… usually it pays off being third to market or something similar. SAF has more RD projects in the works than we can focus on. With 4x the number of engineers, we would have tons more products… but there is a vicious cycle of being able to sell everything and keep the lights on. Rory’s example of 24GHz is a good example. Snaplink was probably first to market in many ways (remember them?), DragonWave built a version of the Horizon Compact that I think almost no one bought (I sold one back when I was at 3-dB Networks in 2008 I think), and SAF had success with Lumina and Freemile in 24GHz well before Ubiquiti announced (forget about shipped) their first airFiber link. But being later to market also allowed them to go another route that turned out to be very disruptive. Nothing discussed here hasn’t been discussed or even heavily researched by at least one manufacturer, if not many. Probably all I can say without someone, somewhere shooting me :-D Saying 240GHz is interesting is like saying 95GHz is interesting. Why mess around there though when you have 80GHz. The FCC isn’t always the bad guy. The FCC was the first regulator to give the world use of 60GHz for instance. Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 7:31 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution Wow, out of all of that, you focused on the profit part. So please share with us what type of product you would build and in what spectrum. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 5:58 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution I'm not saying that the products that have come out aren'tg great, they are great! I know the FCC is the reason we haven't had even better. You did hit the nail on the head though, profit! All of these companies are so focused on profit that it gets in the way of even better innovations. If I went into things thinking only about profit then I'd have nothing. I'm more concerned with true innovation. Something really new that nobody has ever done before. And things that will help the smaller guys that will break even and not be as profitable. And like I said before, I'm only toying with the idea of manufacturing my own products, I'm not even in the idea phase of anything really. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On May 29, 2015, at 6:46 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net mailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Brett, I really don’t think you are giving the manufacturers the respect that they are due in analyzing the options. I’ve sat in on meetings where we did nothing but analyze FCC rules to see what is possible before even considering the idea of making a product, let alone one that has to be profitable. These manufacturers are all on here and believe me, if there was a profit to be made, they have already analyzed it. In the last few years, you have seen some of that out of the box thinking like Bitlomat with split frequencies, Ubiquiti with 24GHz (and full-duplex), Cambridge with 28GHz, Cambium with GPS on 802.11 (sort of), Kumu (same frequency full-duplex), and Mimosa auto-everything. All of these ideas either came out of the box or were just the result of good engineering. After having been inside most of the companies at different times and knowing that there are still some great ideas coming out that are based on the foundation of experience, innovation, and again realistic engineering, I kind of think you are not being realistic. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 5:22 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution I really believe that there is more that can be done than we currently know. You may call that faith of a mustard seed, but it's been proven time and again in history. We may think we know the laws of physics, but who's to say that we are correct? Eventually, we will have wireless devices that can communicate from one side of the globe to the other at extremely high speeds we've never though possible...and without a satellite to relay the signal. It will go through the earth. We just haven't figured out how yet. It's not a question of if, it's a question of when. I just hope I get to see that in my lifetime. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On May 29, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Yeah, but it will require the faith of a mustard seed. Physics
Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution
You’re looking for licensed PtMP backhaul? If that is the case, then CCS has a 28GHz offering with StraightPath. But not sure what you’re looking at price wise. You may just investigate multiple 23GHz shots or something similar depending on distance. Just want to make sure the request is clear. *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution I'm looking for backhaul. Anything in 2.4 or 5GHz won't work. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On May 29, 2015, at 3:35 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: EPMP and maybe Ubnt AC Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On May 29, 2015 5:32 PM, Brett A Mansfield li...@silverlakeinternet.com mailto:li...@silverlakeinternet.com wrote: I'm looking for the best high capacity and low cost PTMP solution. This is for my backhauls to distribute to smaller cells in a large area. Anyone know of something that fits this description? Thank you, Brett A Mansfield --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI
As Mike said… the IBM strategy. The old world thinking was no one ever got fired for buying IBM. No one ever gets fired for buying Cisco. Those certifications are similar to Apple almost giving away Mac’s to schools… you buy what you know. Ruckus and Ubiquiti are both much larger in units shipped than Cisco. I pay attention to every Wi-Fi access point I see… and while I don’t see much Xirrus (I do in convention centers… but outside of that I don’t think the business model fits well) I do see a lot of Ruckus and more and more Ubiquiti. Every tool has a purpose… not every manufacturer or product is the best fit for every situation (even though it may work). Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 8:34 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI Very well said .. I like your summary …. The “champions” description I compare to what I see deployed. Anytime I’m at a sporting event, public place, office complex etc I’m always curious to see what’s deployed for equipment (if I can see it). While I’m sure Ruckus and Xirrus are good products for some folks, I have never seen their stuff deployed. This doesn’t mean it’s good or bad gear … or going back to the Ferrari analogy, just because you don’t see a lot of them on the road doesn’t mean they aren’t one of the best built vehicles out there. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 10:15 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI I think it would be more productive of a comparative conversation if one was to describe why (Technical feature wise) the Ruckus and Xirrus are champions of the Wifi Space. I shudder every time there is a comparison made between MFG. since all of them make high-end and low-end stuff as well. The Strength of Ruckus WIFI solution is in the fact that their (most of them) Radio's do Beamforming very well, and when the Controller is used, the Controller will dynamically manage the Radios's Wifi settings and parameters. The Strength of Xirrus is, having recently looked at some XN8's, all I can say is WOW !, if you forget the price for a moment, if anyone had a Dream Radio Array features Wish List, guess what, they have all of those feature built in. It is a piece of equipment with multiple radios (4,8,16) a combination of 2.4ghz and 5ghz radios which can be configured to pretty much any configuration, combination you like Does that mean that the above two is the only way to go ? No it is very much possible to configure Unifi's, with the right product selection, to accomplish similar results. And yes, if you are looking for a particular feature set, you have to pay attention to which units you are using, because all of the Unifi radios don't support all the features. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net _ From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 8:34:09 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI I had a car analogy lined up, but I saw too many holes in my own analogy. Ruckus and Xirrus are the champions of the WiFi space. They are the very best of the best. UniFi is good enough for most situations and is considerably less expensive. Cisco isn't winning any awards and is really only considered by people playing the IBM strategy. It's more expensive than the better options of UniFi and Xirrus. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com _ From: Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org mailto:p...@paulstewart.org To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 7:22:37 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI Well you haven’t provided any good reasons …. I’ve never used Ruckus/Xirrus to be honest and we don’t have the luxury of “trial and error” with products we’ve never used – so the reasons would be to be quite compelling. Always open to ideas … Ben – you asked if we had contacted support… short answer is yes but I don’t have the details as it’s handled by another group…. Thanks, Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 10:13 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI Then you want Ruckus\Xirrus, not Cisco. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com
Re: [AFMUG] WB Optic Dishes and SAF Integra
We changed as we needed to move from rectangular waveguide to circular to support some future designs. Remember Integra is a product line, not just one individual product. So we are designing for radios we won't announce for awhile. *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn *** -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 9:07 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] WB Optic Dishes and SAF Integra Chuck, SAF changed the mounting arrangement on the Integra platform to a different design than the Lumina. I'm considering using a 3' Optic antenna but will need to be able to obtain a 18Ghz feedhorn and have the ability to mount an Integra. The online ordering guide gives an option for SAF but does not mention the specific version yet. Mark -- Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net 419-837-5105 x1021 m...@amplex.net --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Re: [AFMUG] WB Optic Dishes and SAF Integra
I was hoping for circular polarization... just to confuse people :-D *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn *** -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 3:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WB Optic Dishes and SAF Integra I presume future designs are dual pol XPIC thingys. -Original Message- From: Daniel White Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 3:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WB Optic Dishes and SAF Integra We changed as we needed to move from rectangular waveguide to circular to support some future designs. Remember Integra is a product line, not just one individual product. So we are designing for radios we won't announce for awhile. ** * Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn ** * -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 9:07 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] WB Optic Dishes and SAF Integra Chuck, SAF changed the mounting arrangement on the Integra platform to a different design than the Lumina. I'm considering using a 3' Optic antenna but will need to be able to obtain a 18Ghz feedhorn and have the ability to mount an Integra. The online ordering guide gives an option for SAF but does not mention the specific version yet. Mark -- Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net 419-837-5105 x1021 m...@amplex.net --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Airline Miles
Yes. Always.
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 6:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Airline Miles
I wonder then if it is best to focus on a single airline and try to optimize
its program?
From: Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 7:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Airline Miles
None of the rewards programs are the same, and the airlines are changing the
rules all the time. Not a simple answer.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 5/19/2015 6:36 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I have never played the miles game but I want to learn. What kind of miles are
transferrable between air carriers? What does a “mile” actually equate to in
dollars saved? I presume some credit cards are better for this?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Airline Miles
Same here. But of course I fly 100,000+ miles a year as well so my priorities are a bit different than the average person :-) *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 10:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Airline Miles I rack up airline miles when possible… the miles are “ok” for free stuff but I want the status – free lounge access, always upgraded to first class etc…. that’s where miles really shine for me … everyone has different priorities… From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 10:39 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Airline Miles I'd rather have $1000 cash than $1200 worth of airline tickets. Maybe if it was double I'd do miles... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: That's what I was thinking... can you actually get anymore out of airline miles than if you just use a card that gives you decent cash back? On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Why not just save 1.5% and use the savings? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On May 19, 2015 10:21 AM, Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com wrote: Not much. I think I have 75000 miles roughly. I think that would buy me one flight anywhere in the CONUS. Or for maybe 45000 I could upgrade an UPGRADE ELIGIBLE ticket to first class. On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I have never played the miles game but I want to learn. What kind of miles are transferrable between air carriers? What does a “mile” actually equate to in dollars saved? I presume some credit cards are better for this? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Airline Miles
Chuck, Since you’re in Salt Lake, Delta is the carrier you want to link up with. Their reward program is One World. Any carrier that is part of One World you should be able to “transfer” miles between. I fly United which is Star Alliance. So I can book flights on say Lufthansa with my miles. Which program is the best, to me is really a moot point. What carrier is prominent in the airport you fly out of and goes to where you want to go is more important. I know I have seen on the internet Star Alliance is supposed to be the best “group” but I fly United because they have almost 1/3 of the gates out of Denver. *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn *** From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 6:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT Airline Miles I have never played the miles game but I want to learn. What kind of miles are transferrable between air carriers? What does a “mile” actually equate to in dollars saved? I presume some credit cards are better for this? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Airline Miles
Except if you want to fly internationally. Or you prefer to have an assigned
seat and play around with first class, etc.
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 6:54 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Airline Miles
IMO, the Southwest Visa is the best bet. I put EVERYTHING on it and I
regularly earn companion pass (wife flys free) and I get an additional 8-12
flights per year.
Regards,
Chuck
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com
mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I wonder then if it is best to focus on a single airline and try to optimize
its program?
From: Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 7:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Airline Miles
None of the rewards programs are the same, and the airlines are changing the
rules all the time. Not a simple answer.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 5/19/2015 6:36 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I have never played the miles game but I want to learn. What kind of miles are
transferrable between air carriers? What does a “mile” actually equate to in
dollars saved? I presume some credit cards are better for this?
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Re: [AFMUG] I'll be looking at the guy across the aisle with the open laptop a little more closely on my next flight
I'd say something snarky but I'm writing this e-mail while in flight on the airplane Wi-Fi. Everyone around me has a laptop open too. H... Daniel White (303) 746-3590 -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of WaveDirect Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 7:27 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I'll be looking at the guy across the aisle with the open laptop a little more closely on my next flight Yeah ... makes me wonder what the hell they were thinking by allowing the wifi network be on the same network as the flight controls. This is a possible Cylon situation. - Original Message - From: Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 5:21:38 PM Subject: [AFMUG] I'll be looking at the guy across the aisle with the open laptop a little more closely on my next flight http://www.wired.com/2015/05/feds-say-banned-researcher- commandeered-plane/ Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.nethttp://www.triadwireless.net/ That which can be destroyed by the truth, should be. - P.C. Hodgell --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Re: [AFMUG] Whoa! SAF presents 11GHz Integra radio platform
The airflow in these devices is created via an oscillating diaphragm. Briefly looking into solid-state fans (all I can find are some references to 2009 along with mention of air purifiers) this has nothing to do with how the air flow is created. Most of the technology revolves around what is done with the “jets” of air and how it is directed over the heat sinks. Going back to the e-mail blast, technically it was incorrect in saying “no moving parts” as the diaphragm is moving. But it doesn’t create friction, so nothing to wear out. *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 12:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Whoa! SAF presents 11GHz Integra radio platform I believe those two are mutually exclusive. On Sunday, May 17, 2015, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com mailto:t...@voltbb.com wrote: It's basically a solid state fan On May 17, 2015 6:41 AM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','afmu...@gmail.com'); wrote: The fluid in this case is air (fluid mechanics covers gases and liquids). But yes there is lots of research online on how to use this technology. The lighting industry was first to jump at this technology. If you do enough digging, you can even figure out what vendor we source these components from :-) I agree the description though sounds like something out of a porn movie. The technology is very cool (that is almost a pun). We have been doing our own research into it for at least two years, but I think longer. Perfecting it was far from a trivial task (I think the design we finalized on was our 8th attempt or something like that). *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 tel:%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com'); Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn *** -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com'); ] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 10:16 PM To: af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Whoa! SAF presents 11GHz Integra radio platform He said synthetic jet technology.. according to wikipedia this means synthetic jets are generally formed by flow moving back and forth through a small opening. Synthetic jets are produced by periodic ejection and suction of fluid from an orifice induced by movement of a diaphragm inside a cavity among other ways. That raised my eyebrows. -PK --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Re: [AFMUG] Whoa! SAF presents 11GHz Integra radio platform
The fluid in this case is air (fluid mechanics covers gases and liquids). But yes there is lots of research online on how to use this technology. The lighting industry was first to jump at this technology. If you do enough digging, you can even figure out what vendor we source these components from :-) I agree the description though sounds like something out of a porn movie. The technology is very cool (that is almost a pun). We have been doing our own research into it for at least two years, but I think longer. Perfecting it was far from a trivial task (I think the design we finalized on was our 8th attempt or something like that). *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn *** -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 10:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Whoa! SAF presents 11GHz Integra radio platform He said synthetic jet technology.. according to wikipedia this means synthetic jets are generally formed by flow moving back and forth through a small opening. Synthetic jets are produced by periodic ejection and suction of fluid from an orifice induced by movement of a diaphragm inside a cavity among other ways. That raised my eyebrows. -PK --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment
Actually I find the whole thing funny.
Most SysAdmins/Network admins/programmers I know use Mac’s since its core is
built on Unix. But I hated supporting it during my WISP days too.
I just bought a brand new Dell though, but have an iPad Air and an iPhone 5s.
What does that make me *dazed and confused*?
I also have a RB2011 as my home router and a Ubnt UniFi AP AC as my home Wi-Fi.
I am weird lol.
Daniel White
(303) 746-3590
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 2:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment
Nothing personal intended. I apply it equally to all Apple users.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Brett A Mansfield li...@silverlakeinternet.com
mailto:li...@silverlakeinternet.com
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 2:51:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment
Guys, there is no need for personal attacks here. I thought this was a friendly
debate. How about we agree to disagree.
Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield
On May 16, 2015, at 1:20 PM, joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com
mailto:bwireless...@gmail.com wrote:
You got that right!!!
On May 16, 2015 2:16 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
mailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote:
The only thing that works best on Apple products are idiots.
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From: Brett A Mansfield li...@silverlakeinternet.com
mailto:li...@silverlakeinternet.com
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 2:11:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment
I'm the farthest right wing conservative you're likely to ever meet, not rich
but not poor, and white. I only use PC if there is an absolute reason for
it...and that is extremely rare. All of the best networking tools work best
on mac.
Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield
On May 16, 2015, at 12:56 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com
mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Apples, (black)Lincolns and Birkenstocks are for rich liberal democrats.
PCs (specifically Dells), white Cadillacs and Ostrich Boots are for rich
conservative republicans.
Republican boys like to date democrat girls but marry republican girls (and
later cheat with democrat divorcees).
Democrat girls like to date democrat boys but they are all too poor and
stoned and majoring in liberal arts or political science.
Republican girls just run around with each other getting drunk until some
republican boy sobers up enough to ask them for marriage.
Poor republican boys get reality shows involving guns, mud, moonshine and
wrestling animals in a swamp.
Poor democrat boys wear shirts with political causes printed on them, hang
out with Goth cutter girls and smoke cigarettes.
Give a republican boy a welder and he will make a swamp buggy out of an
old VW.
Give a democrat boy a welder and he will turn it into an objet d'art
symbolizing the military industrial oppression of the worker.
And that is why there are so many apple haters here...
-Original Message- From: Brett A Mansfield
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 12:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment
I buy all of my groceries at Walmart and most of my electronics at apple.
There are a lot of apple haters on here it seems.
I can walk a customer through setting up their AirPort Extreme a lot easier
than Asus, netgear, or dlink. The Apple interface never changes. It's the
same for every model. The others change their gui quite frequently.
Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield
On May 16, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com
mailto:af...@kwisp.com wrote:
I remember telling a customer he should either learn how to configure his
AirPort himself, get AppleCare, or get a regular router like a Linksys or
Netgear with a web GUI if he expected his ISP to provide step-by-step
phone support.
He said he would go out and buy a non-Apple router.
He came back with a TimeMachine.
That's another thing I hate about Apple, they have to use special names
for ordinary things, so people don't compare prices. So you don't have a
router, you have an AirPort. You don't have an external hard drive, you
have a TimeMachine.
But just like some people only shop at WalMart, some people only shop for
electronics at the Apple Store. Probably the same people who buy all
their groceries at Whole Foods.
-Original Message- From: Bill Prince
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 1:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment
No doubt.
The least they could do is to give it a web GUI. Beyond me why it has to
be some proprietary interface.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
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[AFMUG] Whoa! SAF presents 11GHz Integra radio platform
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Re: [AFMUG] This is going to make a great UPS
Have you driven one?
Until you do, you probably won’t understand.
Plus a car that can have software features added simply from an over the air
update is cool.
I’d buy one if I was home enough to drive it and had the extra cash (kids are
expensive!).
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2015 10:59 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] This is going to make a great UPS
What is a good reason to like a Tesla? I think it looks cool and it is a neat
idea, but I don't see any use for it myself.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Steve D bigd...@gmail.com
mailto:bigd...@gmail.com wrote:
Can also haul more crap with an F-150, so there's one more arbitrary reason to
not like a Tesla.
-Steve D
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
100k for a toy car?
Go faster with a GTR.
Look cooler with a Ferrari 360.
Be more comfortable in a Jag XF (R?)
Want better mileage on your electric car? Leaf or something of the sort.
These are all cheaper options if you're after a toy car.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net
mailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote:
Tesla is still a toy though. Even with all its, any luxury car is a better
value. When there are alternatives or the next gen battery hits the market,
not just a slightly better version of what Tesla has but a carbon-iron or
carbon anything, then a long range electric has real value. Out in Arizona at
80mph or slightly more average in 100-115 degree weather and even hotter on the
open highway, with air-conditioning, I’d be surprised to see their biggest
battery last 200 miles.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2015 9:16 AM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] This is going to make a great UPS
Tesla S is cool. Being able to drive 3-4 hours and not be stuck for 8 is
better. Once they get more charging stations (at least in major cities, come
on!) I can see it being available to way more people.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org
mailto:p...@paulstewart.org wrote:
Wow… that is really interesting … I looked at putting solar at my house before
and the number of panels, the cost etc didn’t make it worthwhile. I was quoted
$25k in panels at the time … think I may revisit though and get additional
quotes ;)
BTW – a friend of mine has a Tesla S and loves it… I’m seriously considering
one now as well
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf
Of Chris Wright
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2015 11:31 AM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] This is going to make a great UPS
I don’t know how many cycles it can handle, but max draw per pack is 2kW
continuous, 3.3kW peak.
http://www.teslamotors.com/powerwall
Chris Wright
Network Administrator
Velociter Wireless
209-838-1221 x115 tel:209-838-1221%20x115
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] This is going to make a great UPS
I would want to run it DC, but it ain't bad. We're paying in the neighborhood
of $1500 for about 5KWh with SLA batteries, so this would be a serious
consideration.
I'd like to know what the maximum draw-down is, and how many charge/discharge
cycles, etc. etc.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 5/1/2015 10:20 AM, Peter Kranz wrote:
I want to see more specs, but a 10kWh AC UPS for $3500.. �that�s a decent
price.
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Re: [AFMUG] This is going to make a great UPS
Okay you win.
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of
can...@believewireless.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2015 11:09 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] This is going to make a great UPS
Since we are way off track and talking about vehicles and wasting money, I
just bought this...
It was less than $100k and has great range. (Although not very fuel
efficient.)
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Steve D bigd...@gmail.com
mailto:bigd...@gmail.com wrote:
What is a good reason to like any vehicle? It's all arbitrary value that
each of us would find! Some people just like electric, but they want
something more comfortable than Leaf?
Hell, even if I had $100k laying around, I don't think I'd buy a car at all,
maybe a nice boat. But what's the point of that? I can't drive it on
roads! :O
-Steve D
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
What is a good reason to like a Tesla? I think it looks cool and it is a
neat idea, but I don't see any use for it myself.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Steve D bigd...@gmail.com
mailto:bigd...@gmail.com wrote:
Can also haul more crap with an F-150, so there's one more arbitrary reason
to not like a Tesla.
-Steve D
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
100k for a toy car?
Go faster with a GTR.
Look cooler with a Ferrari 360.
Be more comfortable in a Jag XF (R?)
Want better mileage on your electric car? Leaf or something of the sort.
These are all cheaper options if you're after a toy car.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net
mailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote:
Tesla is still a toy though. Even with all its, any luxury car is a better
value. When there are alternatives or the next gen battery hits the market,
not just a slightly better version of what Tesla has but a carbon-iron or
carbon anything, then a long range electric has real value. Out in Arizona
at 80mph or slightly more average in 100-115 degree weather and even hotter
on the open highway, with air-conditioning, Id be surprised to see their
biggest battery last 200 miles.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2015 9:16 AM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] This is going to make a great UPS
Tesla S is cool. Being able to drive 3-4 hours and not be stuck for 8 is
better. Once they get more charging stations (at least in major cities,
come on!) I can see it being available to way more people.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org
mailto:p...@paulstewart.org wrote:
Wow
that is really interesting
I looked at putting solar at my house
before and the number of panels, the cost etc didnt make it worthwhile. I
was quoted $25k in panels at the time
think I may revisit though and get
additional quotes ;)
BTW a friend of mine has a Tesla S and loves it
Im seriously considering
one now as well
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On
Behalf Of Chris Wright
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2015 11:31 AM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] This is going to make a great UPS
I dont know how many cycles it can handle, but max draw per pack is 2kW
continuous, 3.3kW peak.
http://www.teslamotors.com/powerwall
Chris Wright
Network Administrator
Velociter Wireless
209-838-1221 x115 tel:209-838-1221%20x115
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] This is going to make a great UPS
I would want to run it DC, but it ain't bad. We're paying in the
neighborhood of $1500 for about 5KWh with SLA batteries, so this would be a
serious consideration.
I'd like to know what the maximum draw-down is, and how many
charge/discharge cycles, etc. etc.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 5/1/2015 10:20 AM, Peter Kranz wrote:
I want to see more specs, but a 10kWh AC UPS for $3500.. �that�s
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power
Well someone sent a picture from the manual that says “either” basically… but I don’t think most of us are good at reading manuals… we would rather figure it out on our own ;-D So why the spec sheet says -48VDC… as I said I can only point to practice and that many of our other radios are bonded to the chassis. Lumina is kinda an exception to the rule (why I have no idea). I’ll never forget that is how I was told to install my first licensed link, alone (roof top to roof top), a Stratex XP-4 in 38GHz. I was given the TX information, and told to “figure it out” even though lots of the people around me had installed lots of these links. Programming the IDU with buttons, was well, goofy. But I’ll never forget it (installing that first link). *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 9:28 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power Probably because the next question is Is that negative or positive? On the other hand I agree. If the ground is floating, and I should but I don't remember, they could list it as either. On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: So, why not say 48 VDC and leave it at that? If you add a polarity then you also imply ground reference. -Original Message- From: Daniel White Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 6:13 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power I'll confirm, Lumina is a floating ground. We say -48VDC since that is the telco standard (and some of our other radios are -48VDC only). *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 tel:%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn *** -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 5:36 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power I thought all the SAF stuff was +48, but the CFIP Lumina FODU datasheet says -48? Is this the built-in DC-DC converter thing? I'm confused. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power
I'll confirm, Lumina is a floating ground. We say -48VDC since that is the telco standard (and some of our other radios are -48VDC only). *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn *** -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 5:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power I thought all the SAF stuff was +48, but the CFIP Lumina FODU datasheet says -48? Is this the built-in DC-DC converter thing? I'm confused. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Re: [AFMUG] Stainless steel wire ties
Sure it will. Even the highest quality stuff. Had a site back in my WISP days that had LMR-400 running to a licensed radio head going 50ft up a tower attached every 5ft using 3m tape along the tower leg. A good snow storm with 100MPH winds came along and ripped the cable off the tower one day… I think 6 months after installation (so you can’t blame UV exposure). Went back and used hose clamps (after a helicopter ride later and two weeks of an area of our network limping along on a backup backhaul path) and never had issues again. Learned that lesson once after losing a lot of customers and feeling a lot of frustration (the site was on a 14,000 ft mountain and wind/snow conditions made it inaccessible during the winter basically… so it took two weeks for a narrow window to get up there). Will electrical tape or zip ties fail in most WISP applications for the life of the cable or installation of the equipment, probably not (heck I used zip ties on the cable for the SAF Integra radio on the roof of our office). But SCADA (and even the carriers) operate in a “do it right the first time by a well-worn and time tested book and never visit the site again”. It is a CAPEX/OPEX question really… and customers like Jaime is working with here can’t afford to take the hit on OPEX since it way outpaces the cost of the upfront CAPEX to overbuild the site. That site might take hours to get to, and the downtime cost could be in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Why risk it on electrical tape vs. band-it (cost difference is maybe an additional hour of Jaime’s time and $20 in supplies?). The greatest gift being on the manufacturing side has given me is the opportunity to see hundreds of networks and thousands of different ways of doing things. Some are wrong, many are different shades of right. Some amaze me at the gratuitous overkill (here is looking at you Ricochet). As Lewis said in another thread recently, there is a point where spending more on the grounding system than the equipment it is protecting doesn’t make sense for an incremental improvement. Food for thought :-D *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 1:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stainless steel wire ties Black tape won't fail in your lifetime On Apr 26, 2015 11:32 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Zip ties will do the same freaking thing if you cut them with diagonal cutters. From: Jaime Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 11:49 AM To: Animal Farm mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stainless steel wire ties Yes that was blood.. I took my gloves off to take pictures and grabbed tower leg to adjust and got a two inch cut on right thumb. Still healing. Jaime Solorza --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
[AFMUG] Exchange Antivirus/Antispam
Looking at two solutions. Bitdefender or ESET. Any feedback? Another platform that should be considered? Feedback welcome, so long as it isn't ditch exchange :-D Daniel White (303) 746-3590
Re: [AFMUG] Exchange Antivirus/Antispam
Yes for the server Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2015 1:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Exchange Antivirus/Antispam Are you talking about for the server? Then Norton is the best option. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Daniel White Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2015 12:23 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Exchange Antivirus/Antispam Looking at two solutions. Bitdefender or ESET. Any feedback? Another platform that should be considered? Feedback welcome, so long as it isn't ditch exchange :-D Daniel White (303) 746-3590
Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS
I guess I could +100 this or something like that. I’ve been on the manufacturing side long enough that I know any date you give will be wrong. No matter how well you plan, how prepared you are, something will go wrong. Component suppliers you built the entire radio around suddenly go out of business or are acquired, component supplier hits a delivery issue, something doesn’t pass final testing and has to be redesigned, firmware isn’t ready (firmware always seems less predictable than hardware), regulatory changes happen before or while you submit to a lab for approval, a key engineer in the process leaves the company for whatever reason (or dies… seen that too), a strike causes your product or components to be delayed in port (be it air or sea), FCC approvals takes longer than expected (something you can’t control at all)… the list just goes on and on. And any one problem puts the entire process on hold often, as the RD effort is a team effort for sure, and the next engineer in line can’t do their bit unless the person before them completes theirs. There are so many pieces to a radio RD process and then product launch (marketing, inventory, partner training, etc.)… it is crazy. And many of these issues (and often times they are stupid ones) make me want to hit my head against my desk when they happen to me (at either company I worked for). I’m evasive on answers for the same reasons as Ben and Matt, or anyone from any manufacturer. If you give anything as narrow as a month window to deliver something without wiggle room, you’re probably going to be wrong. *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 8:41 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS ...but you understand why of course. If he assumes the product will pass testing and tells you a date based on that, then it could fail testing and people would be calling him a liar. He could also assume it will fail 5 more times and require 5 cycles of redesign taking over 18 months and give you a date based on thatthen people will complain about how long it takes. Sounds like he doesn't have a direct answer because there isn't one and any answer he gives will be wrong. In which case, the non-answer is the best answer. Not trying to hide anything, it's pretty clear to everyone this has taken longer than we expected. We hit a few unrelated compliance challenges That's the thing. It's always some obscure non answer answer. Like a politician. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 2, 2015 10:20 AM, Matt Hardy m...@ubnt.com mailto:m...@ubnt.com wrote: Hi Rory, We're not trying to hide anything, it's pretty clear to everyone this has taken longer than we expected. We hit a few unrelated compliance challenges after launching NanoBeam and all of them collectively delayed the DFS approvals. The reason I said soon is we're waiting for an ETA on approvals now (they're at the lab now). Once we have a better estimate; we'll share with you. We're very careful about giving dates to you guys ;) At this time it doesn't look like there are any technical reasons the NanoBeams won't be approved for the other UNII bands... I know it's been frustrating for many of you -- it definitely has been for us as well. But it looks like we're almost there... We'll keep everyone updated (unless Gino sees it first). Thanks, Matt On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:21 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net mailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Matt, the usual reason for not releasing information is that you don’t want your competitors to know what you are doing. I get that. At this point though, Mimosa is sharing it’s release schedules almost a year in advance, and both they and Cambium have had DFS on their WiFi chipsets since release. We have all bought a bunch of the equipment that still doesn’t have DFS, some of it for almost a year and it’s screwed up my ordering and deployment plans. Being secretive has no value whatsoever. Not telling us what you know today is annoying since I can’t make deployment decisions based on “soon”. It’s been “soon” for almost a year. How about some actual facts as you know them. If there are delays, that’s fine but just be honest about the process, that’s all we can expect. If you need more time, just tell us and we can plan accordingly. Did the equipment pass specifications that you believe
[AFMUG] System Uptime
Customer just sent me a diagnostics file to look at something. love the uptime: === System diagnostic data == Up time: 829 days 01:04:59 I know we have links out there with much higher ones. but that isn't anything to sneeze at :-D *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn ***
Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA Approved Ad] Announcing MetroLinq - world's first low-cost 60GHz PTP
+1. 60GHz is probably the best RF band for high density deployments period. Most people will have a hard time past 500m with 60GHz… but this product is missing a critical field, RX sensitivity (datasheet says TBD). I deployed a lot of 60GHz at BridgeWave personally… even had a BridgeWave 60GHz link (GE60) in the WISP network. That was… 2006 or 2007? Anyways I won’t comment on this product specifically (as I try not to do with any vendor’s equipment) but the 60GHz band is viable, and the concept of 5GHz failover for FSO and millimeter wave links has been around for 10 years (admittingly, I can’t think of anyone that did it in one unit). Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 6:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA Approved Ad] Announcing MetroLinq - world's first low-cost 60GHz PTP People use 60 GHz all the time, but as Luthman pointed out, for short shots. 60 GHz is actually the preferred band for urban deployments given that oxygen takes care of interference. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com _ From: ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 7:01:14 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA Approved Ad] Announcing MetroLinq - world's first low-cost 60GHz PTP I would be so afraid of rain with 60 GHz. From: Gino Villarini mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 5:50 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA Approved Ad] Announcing MetroLinq - world's first low-cost 60GHz PTP wow!!! Game changer! Gino A. Villarini President http://127.0.0.1:63045/service/home/%7E/?auth=coid=1de3965e-b725-4c61-b23b-9b05aabb2124:50298part=2 From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net Reply-To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 3:43 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA Approved Ad] Announcing MetroLinq - world's first low-cost 60GHz PTP FYI New company to me, but I've known of Hal for a few companies now. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com _ From: Harold Bledsoe hbled...@ignitenet.com To: advertiseme...@wispa.org mailto:advertiseme...@wispa.org Cc: a...@wispa.org mailto:a...@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 11:19:04 AM Subject: [WISPA Approved Ad] Announcing MetroLinq - world's first low-cost 60GHz PTP Announcing MetroLinq - world's first low-cost 60GHz PTP https://gallery.mailchimp.com/40adb78b27ba935585ffaeb24/images/1a1232db-caed-4ac3-bb3a-9f23ea6eaa45.png https://gallery.mailchimp.com/40adb78b27ba935585ffaeb24/images/fe457551-f762-4c41-b6ce-8669de69a49f.png MetroLinq World's first low-cost option for 60 GHz Point-to-Point IgniteNet is excited to announce the latest product in its outdoor wireless product portfolio: MetroLinq! Operating in the worldwide 60GHz and 5GHz unlicensed bands, MetroLinq ushers in a new era of urban fixed wireless service, hybrid fiber-wireless networks, and other types of high capacity, short-range networks. MetroLinq is capable of 1Gbps+ of throughput, low latency, and virtually interference-free links in almost any environment. Link distances of up to 1-2km are made possible through high output power, high antenna gain, and excellent receive sensitivity. Availability is further enhanced through a second, built-in 5GHz radio which can be used as a parallel backup link. This 5GHz radio can also be used as a multi-tenant 802.11ac access point, providing unparalleled flexibility. Starting at an incredibly low price of $500 per unit, MetroLinq enables new business opportunities for service providers and system integrators. To learn more about the MetroLinq line of products and to gain early access to this revolutionary new product, please visit the MetroLinq product page. http://www.ignitenet.com/metrolinq-reservation?utm_source=WISPA+Advertisementutm_campaign=72d5e5b6a9-WISPA_Ad_14_1_2015utm_medium=emailutm_term=0_ce72cf771a-72d5e5b6a9-mc_cid=72d5e5b6a9mc_eid=%5bUNIQID%5d Reserve Today! Copyright © 2015 IgniteNet, All rights reserved. ___ Advertisements mailing list advertiseme...@wispa.org mailto:advertiseme...@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/advertisements
Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS
I wonder what the Tier 1 wireless carriers would think of that too. But maybe that isn’t their market either. *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 9:22 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS I fucking love this guy! He needs to join the list. Him and Patrick Leary can discus wireless On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Lists li...@wavedirect.org mailto:li...@wavedirect.org wrote: This was on the channel #observium in open public chat (not private). Its pruned to take out some joins/parts useless info etc. I simply asked about support for Cambium and now we know exactly what he thinks of wifi people. This guy is a true professional. Funny they think Mikrotik is ghetto. Sure he makes some valid points about the lack of unity in our MIBS. I liked his product for our infrastructure, switches, routers etc. But I think I can get by without his product from now on. This is the luxury of having many independent monitoring systems. It lacks any real alerting system or agents for servers anyway. I literally started off with that sentence. He added some cambium support a few months ago so I wanted to know if more was coming. [09:34] Smeghead any chance of adding more cambium stuff soon? :) [09:34] adama are they another bunch of fucktards who make a new set of mibs for every product? [09:35] adama everyone involved in wireless seems to be literally retarded when it comes to writing mibs [09:37] adama yup, they are [09:38] Smeghead Yeah so I guess we shouldn't support it then and all the millions of units out there. [09:38] adama different set of mibs for every fuckign product [09:38] adama jesus [09:38] Smeghead They unified one of their mibs with the regular AP's [09:38] adama can you english? [09:39] Smeghead The interface stuff is the same for all of them [09:39] Smeghead its your standard interface mibs. Other than that really there is MAYBE 10 unique things per different product [09:40] adama fucking wifi people [09:40] adama you guys have 12903819023810 products from 129381 vendors [09:40] Smeghead If you want to be thorough with them you could pull all sorts of stuff out. [09:40] adama and you're always whining that we should support the stuff you want [09:40] adama well fuck you all [09:40] Smeghead Yeah thats my fault as a consumer of those products. [09:41] Smeghead All I want to do is monitor the best.. Cambium is the biggest and most widely used next to Ubiquiti.. so I'd stick to supporting those 2 fully [09:41] adama meh [09:41] adama get them to send us hardware [09:41] adama and maybe we'll give a shit [09:43] Smeghead I'll see if we can send you cambium for sure. I could even arrange you a login or set you up a vm on the network so you can probe some equipment we have plugged in in a separate environment for you. [09:43] Smeghead I'm pretty sure I offered a few times. [09:49] Smeghead to be honest though - I don't think observium is really hugely needed for AP's and subcribers. Maybe starting with just the wireless bridges first would be the best start. That isn't so overwhelming [09:57] adama you might as well go and hassle jaguar engineers about how they really should build a pickup truck [09:57] adama i'm a telco/isp network person, i don't give 2 shits about wireless [09:57] Smeghead Who do you think delivers internet to the massive areas between the major cities? [09:58] adama i dunno, are we talking about retarded countries or not? [09:58] Smeghead Yeah all of the Western hemisphere.. [09:59] adama lol [09:59] adama XD [10:01] adama my patience for people asking for wireless stuff ran out long ago [10:01] Smeghead Well if you want more excuses to neglect a high percentage of industry in the world that delivers internet..yeah take this one. Its probably too hard and too much work for you. Because the wireless industry is retarded. [10:01] adama i know it is [10:02] Smeghead Yet I can make some cacti graphs in a few mins for anything. Cacti is old and busted. Your product is new and refreshing. That is why the industry is bugging you. [10:04] adama go and make some cacti graphs then [10:04] adama i'm really fucking sick of this shit [10:04] adama it doesn't take 5 minutes to add support for things [10:04] adama especially no nfucking wireless stuff [10:04] adama so just fuck off [10:04] adama it's not going to happen [10:04] adama and every one who asks makes it less likely to happen [10:06] Smeghead But I'll bet if you asked
Re: [AFMUG] ePmP FW 2.4 bug?
The IEEE standard requires GigE to be auto-negotiate. Technically if your device allows you to hard-code GigE it is breaking the IEEE standard. OF course I could be wrong. I didn’t sleep at a Holiday Inn last night. *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 3:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePmP FW 2.4 bug? I'm pretty every GUI I've looked at requires you to have auto for gigabit in some way. It always felt weird coming from the ability to hard set 10/100 half/full. I just assumed that it was a gigabit requirement. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc t...@franklinisp.net mailto:t...@franklinisp.net wrote: LOL. Well that might be an issue. Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 tel:317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 tel:317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: http://www.surfici.net www.surfici.net What can ICI do for you? Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly prohibited. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 5:17 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePmP FW 2.4 bug? Probably. But seriously, I'm not sure you can really specify manual gigabit? I thought gigabit had to be negotiated. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc t...@franklinisp.net mailto:t...@franklinisp.net wrote: Is there a bug in the 2.4 firmware that locks you out of the ePMP IF MANUAL AND 1000 is set? Sent from my iPhone No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5863 / Virus Database: 4321/9422 - Release Date: 03/31/15
Re: [AFMUG] Tower on home
I've also seen many like that in Mexico... or huge towers right in the middle of subdivisions. Aesthetic value isn't that important in most of the rest of the world. *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn *** -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyler Treat Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 8:19 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower on home seen quite a few like that last time i was in Dominican Republic. From: Af af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of Brett A Mansfield br...@silverlakeinternet.com Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 8:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Tower on home I've put pops on many homes including my own. I cannot imagine doing something on this scale.
