Re: Metro-X or Xfree86?

1998-06-17 Thread Scott Tyson

Thanks,

I'll make sure I upgrade to the latest Xfree86 before configuring it.
Right now it sets it to the SVGA driver which is not accelerated.  My guess
is the version I have on my cd is at 1 or to revs behind.  Metro-X is 2.

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On 6/16/98, at 4:25 PM, William T Wilson  wrote: 

On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Scott wrote:

 difference between the two?  Are thier reasons to use on over the other?

Mostly the primary decision is which one your card is supported by.

XFree86 is a better product.  It has fewer bugs and is more efficient.
But MetroX supports some cards that XFree doesn't.

 worth the 40 bucks?  Do I get acceleration with Metro-X?  I don't get
 acceleraton with Xfree86 (at least not the version I'm using).

I think the XFree accelerates on the ET6000.  In fact I'm sure of it, it
says it does in the documentation.  Unless your version is very old I
think you may be mistaken.



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Q: news servers

1998-06-17 Thread Joe Tseng

Anyone here ever set up a news server with Linux?  What software do you 
use to host the groups?  How hard is it to do?  I'd like to do this to 
demonstrate to management that Linux is indeed a viable system for the 
enterprise.  (In any case we need one.)  Any useful help will be greatly 
appreciated.

Joe

PS -- I upgraded my box to RH5.1 tonight, extremely painless.  :)
PPS -- the Yankees lost again.  :P

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Re: What's so great about Linux?

1998-06-17 Thread Chuck Mead

Comments are in line!

 Redhat tells me no where how its kernal installs default.  It only gives me
 2 options in its chapter "next steps after install".. To do a modular or
 monolithic compile.  My netowrk card (Linksys 10/100 using the PNIC chip)
 is not supported by Redhat's driver.  It requires version .83 or above to
 work.  I had to find it on the net, download it, modify the C code to
 enable full duplex support and then install it.

The following link does not list Linksys 10/100 (PNIC or otherwise) in
the Manhattan compatibility list and it also clearly states the
following: "Not listed = not supported"!
http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/rhl/intel/rh51-hardware-intel-11.html#ss11.4


This link does not list Linksys 10/100 (PNIC or otherwise) in the
Hurricane compatibility list and it also clearly states the
following: "Not listed = not supported"!
http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/rhl/intel/rh50-hardware-intel-11.html#ss11.1


This link does not list Linksys 10/100 (PNIC or otherwise) in the
Biltmore compatibility list and it also clearly states the
following: "Not listed = not supported"!
http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/rhl/intel/rh42-hardware-intel-11.html


The HCL for NT 3.51 at Microsoft's site lists the Linksys ISA card but
not the 10/100 PCI (PNIC or otherwise).

The HCL for NT 4.0 at Microsoft's site lists the Linksys 10/100 PCI
card but doesn't adress the chipset (PNIC or otherwise).

I have one very simple question, Scott...

Why would you attempt to use a hardware device which is clearly stated
as incompatible?  You wouldn't do it with NT and I know you wouldn't
'cause I know you know that OS and have seen a few BSOD's.  So why is
Linux somehow suspect because the driver isn't available in the
official release?  Since I know you've had that happen to you with
client and server OS's of other flavors I'd say you're levying
criticism where none is due!  Congratulations are due you since you
made it work in spite of the missing driver!  I suspect you'd have done
the same with NT or 95, the only difference being that you
probably wouldn't have had to compile the thing for M$ products.  This,
by the way is truly a feature when it comes to using the most powerful
and customizable OS in the world *NIX or LINUX.  You are not limited! 
You do not have to "take what the geniuses at the software house give
you".  If you don't have it out of the box somebody somewhere has
produced it 'cause there's about a zillion folks out there writing
stuff for Linux!  Your situation and solution is an excellent example
of this very thing.  This is bad?

I have had a business relationship for a while now with a manufacturer
of high end servers who's based in Maryland.  You should hear what he
has to say about the timeliness that certain hardware manufacturers
have with the provision of driver spec's for their products.  Many
vendors write their own drivers and the ones that don't, eventually,
provide their spec's to the OS developers so their product can be
supported.  Since Linux driver development, likely as not, is happening
in a private domicile in Spain, Brazil, Israel, or the U.S. what do you
suppose the likelihood is that this vendor is gonna provide that spec
to the guy or gal punching out the code in that domicile?  Believe it
or not it happens, but when it doesn't these folks dissassemble and port
an existing driver or write one from scratch!  This is bad?

 The installations instructions for a modular kernel install consisted of 
 executing 5 commands and for a monolithic it was recompile the kernel.  
 Redhat's instructions on the monolithic compile are giberish so I'm 
 avoiding that. I chose to do a monolithic kernel to support simple 
 upgardes.  I gather from your responce that Redhat has already done 
 this to a point thus poor documentaton lead me to re-compile my kernal.
 No biggy since it worked,,just wasted 2 hours of my time.

RedHat's kernel compilation instructions aren't gibberish!  They work,
first time, every time, if you do exactly what they say.  Your
situation as a neophite is a perfect case in point.  I think the issue
here is that you're missing the real reason someone might want to
compile it in the first place.  Rich K. could probably say this better
since he's far more experienced with *NIX than I but the long and short
of it is that it's a technique for optimization of memory usage which
directly effects the speed of the OS in operation by eliminating
superfluous items and adding required/desired items.  The smaller the
kernel, the smaller the memory footprint in RAM.  The more unnecessary
stuff you get rid of the faster the thing's gonna run 'cause it's doing
less work per clock cycle. It's largely a function of intended use!  I
use a modular kernel on one of my machines 'cause it's my primary
workstation (the box that I'm typing on in fact) and I might decide to
make a change to it and the modularity gives me that capability without
requiring a recompile.  I 

Re: What's so great about Linux?

1998-06-17 Thread Chuck Mead

 Just remember what happened between VMS and Berkeley Unix.  All the
 comments you are making now were made 15 years ago, when that struggle
 became visible.  The outcome?  Unix built the Internet.  Ken Olsen's
 insistence on VMS destroyed DEC and allowed companies like Sun to blossom.
 
 ---Rsk
 Rich Kulawiec
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Oh Rich your parting shot here was awesome!  Wutz up?

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[Q] NFS Allow/Deny Files

1998-06-17 Thread Raj Singh

Hi,

How can I setup NFS so that only certain hosts can nfs-mount the exported
file system and other hosts are denied nfs-mount access ?

It appears that hosts.allow (and hosts.deny) are for TCP/IP services only.

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beginners help for redhat linux

1998-06-17 Thread terry

Hi 
Is there a list for linux newbies thats not quite as busy as this 
one. I find that when I get 125 messages in the morning I end up 
deleting, without reading,  most of them. That seems like defeating 
the object to me.
Regards
Terry


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starting programs when motif starts

1998-06-17 Thread altex

how do I start programs when motif mwm starts ?

Claudiu


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RE: addendum: Re: sndconfig/modprobe?

1998-06-17 Thread Maxwell Smart


On 16-Jun-98 Michael Jinks wrote:
 I've been trying to get sound to work on my 5.1 box using a soundblaster 16
 (as per the post right before this one).
 
 Retracing my steps, I just re-compiled my kernel with sound support as a
 module.  But when I did make install_modules, I got this:

Just out of curiosity: why recompile?

I installed 5.1 and have changed nothing from the stock (save a few errata
updates). My SB16 works fine (and loads as a module).

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StarOffice 'system' fonts

1998-06-17 Thread altex

I'm quite unhappy with StarOffice's "system" fonts (you know, the ones in
the menus and stuff) on my 15" 1024x768 monitor.
How can I enlarge them ?

Claudiu


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RE: Staroffice won't uncompress!

1998-06-17 Thread Maxwell Smart


On 16-Jun-98 Jason Belich wrote:
 after getting assorted uncompression errors with SO4sp3 both using the
 wrapper and manually using tar -xvzf, I attempted to just gzip -d the
 tarball and I get consistantly the error 
 
 invalid compressed data--crc error
 
 I've dnlded from several different sites with the same effect.  Has
 anyone else had this problem?  If so, is there an easy solution?

Similar problem but, only tried staroffice-wrapper. Followed the exact same
procedure I used to get it working for 5.0 and keep getting it to start, look
for the file-link in /tmp and then just stop. A query shows the wrapper
installed.

Tried manually installing the .tgz and get the same old script error I used to
get every time I tried that way.

Looks like 5.1 has something that is no longer compatible.

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RE: beginners help for redhat linux

1998-06-17 Thread David Buddrige

Try [EMAIL PROTECTED]

regards

David Buddrige
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 Is there a list for linux newbies thats not quite as busy as this 
 one. I find that when I get 125 messages in the morning I end up 
 deleting, without reading,  most of them. That seems like defeating 
 the object to me.
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pam ncp under RH5.1

1998-06-17 Thread irger

Hi,

how can i run pam with ncp under RH5.1 ??
And how can i start pam 

Please help.


cu armin irger


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gcc + egcs Mix...

1998-06-17 Thread Joerg Mertin


This should be a little Criticism to Redhat Folks...
It´s nice for you folks to alway be on top of LiNUX World, but if you do
so, please stick to one Package (B.e. gcc + egcs Stuff). I´m b.e. not able
to compile applications needing both Codes, C and C++ Code, since I have
severe Linker Problems. My Proposition would be, that RedHat provides 2
UPgrade possibilities: Completely gcc base (Good old Gnu C stuff), and for
the Bleeding Edge Users, egcs (Complete). But no mixing please.

It´s strange that my preferred distribution always needs patches, remade
RPM´s for thing to keep on working smooth :(

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sendmail installation and users guide

1998-06-17 Thread Robert W. Canary

Hi,

Where is the "sendmail installation and users guide" that the sendmail
man page refers too.

thanks in advance
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Sound Solutions

1998-06-17 Thread Lee Kirby

Someone was having a tough time getting their sound card configured.

Here's how I did it:

o I read/scanned the Sound-HOWTO first

(I have a SB16 non-PnP (as far as I know) sound card)

o If you're using Win95, make a note of your sound card's IRQ, DMA
  channels via Control Panel - System (or some such)
o Re-compile kernel without *any* modules (include sound card config
  options, of course).  Why?  Seems cleaner to me is all, and
  less hassle/worry for a newbie like myself.
o Don't use sndconfig, as you configured your sound card in the kernel
  already.
o Fire-up gtcd/tcd or xmcd or workbone as root to test.

Of course, logged in as joe user is somewhat of a problem.  I gather some
audio device files have permissions diametrically opposed to joe user
playing a music cd.  I solved this in the same way I solve all of these
"only root can do it" issues, via sudo, but would welcome a better
approach!

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Re: [Q] NFS Allow/Deny Files

1998-06-17 Thread James Youngman

 "rs" == Raj Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  rs How can I setup NFS so that only certain hosts can nfs-mount the
  rs exported file system and other hosts are denied nfs-mount access
  rs ?

From "man nfsd":-
SEE ALSO
   exports(5), mountd(8), ugidd(8C)

man exports
vi /etc/exports


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Re: Q: news servers

1998-06-17 Thread James Youngman

 "jt" == Joe Tseng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  jt Anyone here ever set up a news server with Linux?  What software

Yep.

  jt do you use to host the groups?  How hard is it to do?  I'd like

inn, from the Red Hat CD.   Unless you have particularly special
needs, in which case you may get away with using LeafNode or similar. 

(Are you sure your internet connectivity bandwidth is sufficient to
accept a full newsfeed?)

It's quite difficult.   There are many things to configure.
Basically, you install the RPM, replace the "active" file from one
provided by your ISP, edit every file in /etc/news, and then try
starting the server.

  jt to do this to demonstrate to management that Linux is indeed a
  jt viable system for the enterprise.  (In any case we need one.)
  jt Any useful help will be greatly appreciated.

Well, news is problably the single most difficult internet service to
administer well.   You picked a hard one to start with.


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Real Audio

1998-06-17 Thread GateKeepeR News

Where can I find the non-expiring real audio/video server at? Thanks..

Bryan

P.S. If anyone has a site with FP98 extensions in RPM format, I'd
appreciate it if you sent it to me :)


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Re: SECURITY: new XFree86 packages now available

1998-06-17 Thread argathin

Dave Reed writes:
  From: Ron Golan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  I checked what version of PAM I'm using since I am using XFree86 3.3.2
  (see below) but I am using RH5.0. What is the reason for not using this
  version with 4.2? Is it a glibc thing? 
  
  [root@ozenfant /tmp]# rpm -qvi pam
  Name: pam Distribution: Hurricane
  Version : 0.59  Vendor: Red Hat Software
 
 
 I'm using the latest version RedHat has officially released for 4.2
 (0.57).  If the latest XFree86 requires version 0.59 of pam I would
 hope they will release that version of pam.  I suspect RedHat's
 maintaining both 4.2 and 5.x releases has resulted in this problem
 (although, I think they made the correct decision to continue
 supporting 4.2).  Anyway, I was just posting the problem so hopefully
 RedHat will either release pam-0.59 or make a new XFree86 rpm that
 works with pam-0.57.  It doesn't matter to me - I just want a system
 that works and is secure :-).  Once I get a few free days I'm going to
 upgrade to 5.1 and try to get all my software working with it, but
 until I get a chance I want to keep my system secure.

Hm - in the meantime it could be an option to get the 5.1 pam source rpm and
run rpm --rebuild on it. I haven't tried that with pam, but I have updated a
thing or two (e.g. slang) that way on my RHL4.2 system.

Just my £0.02,

Thomas
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Pine/Sendmail

1998-06-17 Thread wward

Hello,
I'am trying to standardized my "From:" in my e-mail. To be more specific
I'am trying to use the name my ISP has assign me, which is different
than my user name. I tried to use the Pine mechanism, customize-header,
but when I went to send an e-mail it told me I couldn't cutomize "From".
My next solution is to use Sendmail mechanism, which I'am not looking
forward to, however, I've read that Pine will override. Is there anyway
I can change the "From:" on e-mail?
TIA.
Wayne


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Re: sendmail aliases for outbound username?

1998-06-17 Thread argathin

Andy Lindeman writes:
 hoeteck-
 
 I already have the fetchmail part going.  I want my outgoing email to look
 like it's coming from my ISP account [EMAIL PROTECTED], when it is
 really coming from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (my own unregistered, always
 changing IP addr, not on the net 24x7 linux box).
 
 I have it working to the point that it looks like it is from
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], but sendmail is supposed to be able to use the userdb
 to map the "andy" to "lindeman".  I can't get that to work.

I just got this running yesterday on my machine at home. I'm using the
"generics" database feature to do so, and finally, it seems to work.

Here's what I did:

- get the redhat.mc file (I installed the sendmail source rpm and run 
  rpm -bp on it to do so (RHL 4.2))
- add the following:
FEATURE(genericstable, hash /etc/mail/generics)   
GENERICS_DOMAIN(YOUR_ISP_DOMAIN_HERE)  
FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)  
FEATURE(allmasquerade)
- run m4 on it (the README in sendmail-x/cf describes how)
- copy the new sendmail.cf to /etc (might be wise idea to backup the old one
  first, I'm a bit paranoid about these things...)
- generate the generics database:
  * write the text file with entries like this for each local name you have:
localnametabnew_mailaddress

example:
jbloggs [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  * run makemap on that file (makemap hash generics.db  generics)
- that's it.

To be on the safe side, I added my local address in all possible
combinations (as in jbloggs, jbloggs@localhost,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]) - might be an overkill, but it works...

I also added MASQUERADE_AS(my_isp_domain) and removed
FEATURE(always_add_domain) to the mc file.

After all these changes, "Return-Path:" and "From:" should reflect those
changes. I just installed the whole stuff yesterday, so I'm still waiting
for the brick walls to hit me ...be warned... ;-)

HTH,

Thomas

P.S.: This was my first stab at sendmail configuration - corrections and
  suggestions by other list members welcome... ;-)
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Re:MC broken?!?

1998-06-17 Thread hUnTeR

Good day all -

Just a short question. I upgraded from ncurses-1.9e-8 to
ncurses-4.2b980516-1 to get BitchX-74p4-1 working, and now it seems that
mc doesnt work any more. Is there a fix for this? I noticed mc requires
libncurses.so.3.0 which still seems to be on the system
(/usr/lib/libncurses.so.3.0) but guess its not in ldconfig. Any ideas
how to get mc working again? And, will this upgrade "BREAK" anything
else?

Michael Weiner
The UserFriendly Network


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Re: HTML-formatted mail

1998-06-17 Thread argathin

Chris Humphres writes:
 If I remember correctly, the email in question only contained the html.  I
 deleted it and yes I use pine.  When you've got hundreds of emails to go
 through, you don't have the time to save to a tmpfile and browse with
 netscape or scan with a text editor.  I agree with the others, if you want
 everyone to read it, send it in plain text (and it doesn't matter if you
 attach html to that or not as long as the text is there).

I disagree strongly - attaching HTML bloats the mail up to almost twice the
size. Heck, even just sending the HTML is bigger than plain text. There are
countries where you have to pay for local calls by time units when you dial
up to your ISP, so every minute (and thus every unnecessary byte) counts. 
That's basically the same problem as with spam, isn't it?

Thomas
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Re: FW: Linux Bigot.

1998-06-17 Thread Anthony E. Greene

At 09:06 6/17/98 +1000, Bradley, Greg wrote:
The problem is still, that I must know that Linux exists and that I want
it, before I can subscribe to a journal to find somewhere that I can get
it from.
WIN95 screams at me from every newspaper advertisment and editorial.
When was the last time you saw an ad in a non-enthusiast publication
that advertised availability of Linux?

Reviews in non-Windows specific computer magazines (like Byte) are raising
the visibility of Linux. Vendor and/or non-profit web sites are usually
listed at the end of the article. Non-computing related publications don't
think anything else exists.

Granted, it's not like the frenzy over Win95, but exposure is increasing.

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Re: Burning a RedHat CD - The Full Story

1998-06-17 Thread Graham

Steve Frampton wrote:
  6) The next thing to do is create an ISO image, you can then burn
 this image onto a CD using your favourite platform - or even
 Windows ;)  To do this enter the following as one line:
 
 mkisofs -b misc/boot/autoboot.img -c misc/boot/boot.catalog -a
 -A "RedHat Linux 5.0 with Patches to 06/02/98" -d -L
 -o /temp/RH5.iso -P "Publisher ID" -p "Preparer ID" -r -T
 -N /temp/rh5
 
 I don't have this command.  Is this part of some Linux-based CD writer
 kit?  I was just planning on borrowing a friend's Win95 burner and using
 standard Win95 drivers to burn the CD.

mkisofs is part of mkisofs-1.11.2-3.i386.rpm that comes with RH5.1
or mkisofs-1.11.1rel-2.i386.rpm with RH5.0


 
  7) You should now have an ISO image that you can burn to CD. If you
 want to check that the image is OK and you have compiled loopback
 file system support into your kernel, then you can actually mount
 this image as a file system and have a look through it!
 
 mount -t iso9660 -o loop /temp/rh5/RH5.iso /mnt/test
 
 Is there a reason you can't just mount the cd as an ISO9660 image?
 
 ie.  mount /dev/cdrom /cdrom -t iso9660

Try it! But i think you need to do it the way I suggest as I think it
needs the loopback filesystem. If you find out otherwise, let me know.
 
  Note that this CD will be written with Rockridge Extensions, so
  long filenames will only be readable on platforms that support them.
 
 This worries me -- since the standard CD's from the vendors can be read
 with Windows (standard ISO9660), isn't there a way to do the same thing
 for home-burned versions?
 
 Thanks again.

The CDs burnt this way can be read by Windows, you just don't get long
filenames. You could create the image using Joilet instead of Rockridge,
then Windows would see long filenames, but I don't know if the install
image supports Joliet - it didn't used to but since there is now kernel
support for Joilet it may well do.


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Re: [Q] NFS Allow/Deny Files

1998-06-17 Thread Clemens Adler

On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, Raj Singh wrote:

 Hi,
 
 How can I setup NFS so that only certain hosts can nfs-mount the exported
 file system and other hosts are denied nfs-mount access ?
 
 It appears that hosts.allow (and hosts.deny) are for TCP/IP services only.
 
NFS acess is controlled by the /etc/exports file. Only the hosts that are
in this file are allowed to mount somthing via nfs.
Look at the exports man page for the format of the file.
(very roughly:
-
/filesystemhost1(rw) host2(rw)  

-
host1 and host2 can mount filesystem '/filesystem' via nfs and read and
write fro to it. There are other options you can specify.
)
Clemens


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Re: burning redhat cd

1998-06-17 Thread Graham

Kevin Smith wrote:
 
 On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, Graham Hemmings wrote:
 
  First, let me assure you that appending .tar to a required directory name
  does work at redhat (and most other FTP sites I suspect), I have just
  downloaded RH5.1 using this method.
 
  Second, the full procedure I (successfully) use to burn a working, bootable
  RH CD has been posted to this list - See Burning a RedHat CD - The Full Story.
 
 
 Just wondering about your posted howto.. :)  I saw it a few days ago, and
 saved it as it is very useful to have the info... but I noticed you
 rebuild hdlist, do you not have to modify the comps file?  I haven't tried
 as of yet, but I would like to throw a bunch of custom rpms in there, and
 was wondering if this was necessary.. :)
 

Not as far as I know. In my experience it is sufficient just to run
genhdlist.

Graham...


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Re: sendmail installation and users guide

1998-06-17 Thread James Youngman

 "Robert" == Robert W Canary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Robert Where is the "sendmail installation and users guide" that
  Robert the sendmail man page refers too.

/usr/doc/sendmail/doc/op/op.me


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Space problem?

1998-06-17 Thread wward

Hello,
My system informed me that I had no space left in the root filesystem.
So, I removed a bunch of files totaling about 20meg. When I did a "df"
the filesystem still shows no space available. Where is the space
I freed-up?
TIA.
Wayne 


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Re: What's so great about Linux?

1998-06-17 Thread Rich Kulawiec

On Tue, Jun 16, 1998 at 09:43:27PM -0500, Dave Ihnat wrote:
 MS is trying to simplify the world too much; most
 Linux advocates (as, to be fair, most Unix advocates I've known for the
 last quarter-century) try to trivialize the difficulties of configuring and
 maintaining a complex OS.

I (largely) agree.

Albert Einstein wrote that "Everything should be as simple as possible,
but no simpler."  He was talking about cognitive models of complex
physical processes and the pitfall that we all sometimes fall into
of oversimplfying the model (in order to aid our understanding) so much
so that the model no longer corresponds with reality.

But his comment also applies to OS design and implementation.  I'm not
in favor of gratuitous complexity, and am as tough a critic of it as
anyone when I bump into it.  However, I recognize that there is a
certain amount of necessary complexity involved in most engineering
projects.  If you try to design and build a modular, portable, scalable,
modifiable, reliable, high-performance OS, you will probably find it
a continuous struggle to keep it simple.

This is, by the way, one of the primary reasons I use 'nix: I need
those positive attributes and find that the accompanying complexity
is within what I consider to be reasonable bounds -- given what
I get for it.  It's also one of the primary reasons that I ridicule NT:
it has an equivalent or higher level of complexity, but with only
trace amounts of the positive attributes that make dealing with
the complexity worthwhile.

This is also why I tell people that 'nix is not for everyone.  There
are a *lot* of people who live in some combination of a mail client,
web client, word processor, spreadsheet, graphics manipulator, etc.,
and whose entire use of the machine is simply to run applications.
They don't provide services; they don't run multi-user; they just
want to work on specific tasks.

I tell those people to get a Mac: they can install and configure the
software themselves; they can handle their own sysadmin tasks; and
they'll find it much harder to shoot themselves in the foot than
with other platforms.

I suspect that in 1-2 years I'll be able to point them to a Linux
distribution which approaches this ease-of-use and for which the
appropriate applications are available.  *And* which still retains
all the features of Linux that make it a technically superior
operating system.

---Rsk
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Re: HTML-formatted mail

1998-06-17 Thread Anthony E. Greene

I see formatted email (via HTML or any other scheme) as useful only within
organizatons or specified groups. Within those limits it can be *very*
useful. I have a newsletter that I'd like to publish in a fashion that's
readable with all it's formatting from within the recipient's mail client.
Hopefully HTML-aware mail readers will be common enough to make this possible.

But for open lists and unknown recipients, only plain text is really suitable.

 Tony


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ppp minicom

1998-06-17 Thread Bijaya Hamal


Dear Sir /Madame , 

I am a newbie at redhat linux . I want to connect to my isp using minicom.
I am using redhat 4.2 . 
When I read the minicom howto , it talks about loading ppp dameon (pppd)
through the minicom software and unloading too after finishing . 
I have compiled my ppp into my kernel , so there is no pppd now but
intregated into my kernel . 
So how do I load ppp that is intregated into my kernel from minicom.I am
using chap autentication i.e. after I dial , I give my username , password
then type ppp. I get funny charaters , so I know that ppp got started in
the server end . Now how do I start ppp in my end too. 
Help me if you could . I will be very greatful for your help . 



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RE: Q: news servers

1998-06-17 Thread KThorpe

Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 21:01:24 PDT
From: "Joe Tseng" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Q: news servers

We aren't running news here anymore, but I installed it once to try it. The 
server is INN (inn-1.7-2 in RH5.0). Read /usr/doc/HOWTO/News-HOWTO or take a 
quick hike to:
rtfm.mit.edu:/pub/usenet-by-hierachy/news
I managed to set it up from a standing start in around 30 mins.

Any probs., feel free to ask

Anyone here ever set up a news server with Linux?  What software do you use
to host the groups?  How hard is it to do?  I'd like to do this to
demonstrate to management that Linux is indeed a viable system for the
enterprise.  (In any case we need one.)  Any useful help will be greatly
appreciated.

Joe

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Perl/TK

1998-06-17 Thread Brian Wilson

Can anyone tell me if there is a rpm for the Perl/TK on Redhat 5.1. If
not how would I go about getting this package. Thanks for any help on
this problem.

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Re: HTML-formatted mail

1998-06-17 Thread CodFish88

In a message dated 98-06-16 21:37:24 EDT, you write:

 Personally, I can say that HTML-formatted mail also has many advantages.  I
 do not wish to elaborate them here for various reasons.  However, I was
 very surprised at the lack of appreciation by a technical group.  Most
 importantly, I think we in the Linux community need to keep our eye on the
 future -- whatever that may be.  Simply closing the door on HTML-formatted
 email just because "people don't know how to communicate anymore" is not an
 answer that will likely lead to improvements as individuals or a community.
  

Ditto


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Re: Q: news servers

1998-06-17 Thread Will Shaw

I use Dnews, which is commercial software. (www.netwinsite.com)  The only
reason for doing this is that our internet provider doesn't give us a news
feed, and I have to suck the feed from Supernews (www.supernews.com).
'suck' proved less than useful for an operation of this size (a few hundred
users, large spool); dnews was a very good (not to mention powerful 
flexible) combination of suck + innd that has worked reliably since its
installation.

Setting it up isn't terribly hard, regardless of how you do it.  The
software is well-documented and man pages are available, as well as a
web-based manual.  

As a side note, I set up a Linux machine here for much the same reasons
you're setting this one up, and it's worked out well.  We're now up to
three Linux boxes in operation, each performing tasks from firewall
logging/monitoring to being a ppp server.  I know my boss was impressed :)

best of luck setting it up...

--Will

At 09:01 PM 6/16/98 PDT, Joe Tseng wrote:
Anyone here ever set up a news server with Linux?  What software do you 
use to host the groups?  How hard is it to do?  I'd like to do this to 
demonstrate to management that Linux is indeed a viable system for the 
enterprise.  (In any case we need one.)  Any useful help will be greatly 
appreciated.



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Re: 3c590 and PCI-SCSI card confict IRQ conflict

1998-06-17 Thread John J. Donohue

On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Michael Jinks wrote:

 The ethernet card and the SCSI controller are both PCI, and both
 _really_ want to claim IRQ 11.  I think that this should be workable
 under PCI (right?), but at the moment any command I try to send to eth0
 returns a SCSI error.
 
Try moving one or both of the cards to different PCI slots and see if that
"encourages" them to choose different IRQ's.


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Re: Staroffice won't uncompress!

1998-06-17 Thread Jason Belich

Maxwell Smart wrote:
 Similar problem but, only tried staroffice-wrapper. Followed the exact same
 procedure I used to get it working for 5.0 and keep getting it to start, look
 for the file-link in /tmp and then just stop. A query shows the wrapper
 installed.
 
 Tried manually installing the .tgz and get the same old script error I used to
 get every time I tried that way.
 
 Looks like 5.1 has something that is no longer compatible.
 
 ---


I'm using 5.0


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Re: Space problem?

1998-06-17 Thread James Youngman

 "mt" == Mauricio Teixeira [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  mt On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, wward wrote:
   the filesystem still shows no space available. Where is the space
   I freed-up?

  mt Sometimes the space freed-up os shown only after a reboot... I
  mt dunno why...

See the first paragraph of the manual page for unlink(2).


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Re: HTML-formatted mail

1998-06-17 Thread James Boorn

Maybe I am just dense, so please enlighten me.  What problem does HTML
email solve?  I see no reason for it, and am one of those that just
deletes it.  But maybe if I knew the problem it solved I'ld be willing to
consider it a solution.

 On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, David Hauck wrote:

 In the responses to this thread, I have heard many "why nots".  What seems
 so funny to me is that those who are against HTML formatted mail seem hell
 bent on how some one can use it to mess up communication.  Or better yet,
 how some use it to overcome their lack of ability to craft their ideas into
 words.  
 
 Personally, I can say that HTML-formatted mail also has many advantages.  I
 do not wish to elaborate them here for various reasons.  However, I was
 very surprised at the lack of appreciation by a technical group.  Most
 importantly, I think we in the Linux community need to keep our eye on the
 future -- whatever that may be.  Simply closing the door on HTML-formatted
 email just because "people don't know how to communicate anymore" is not an
 answer that will likely lead to improvements as individuals or a community.
 
/
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Re: Space problem?

1998-06-17 Thread Vidiot

My system informed me that I had no space left in the root filesystem.
So, I removed a bunch of files totaling about 20meg. When I did a "df"
the filesystem still shows no space available. Where is the space
I freed-up?
Wayne 

Excuse me, but how the Hell are any of us supposed to know what files you
removed and from where?  We have no idea what you did, how you did it and
where you did it.  We have no idea the layout of your system, etc., etc.

In other words, our crystal balls are in the shop and you must therefore
provide details, lots of details.

Sorry to be terse, but questions like this are impossible to answer.

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Re: PS/2 and RedHat Disks

1998-06-17 Thread Christopher Fisk

Unfortunately I don't have much knowledge about loadlin,  I'll look for
some info and letcha know whut i find.

Chris

On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, LT wrote:

Chris,
   I haven't tried that!  But I am not using lilo because I am using DosLinux
and that doesn't appear to be there.  Do you know of any switches for loadlin?
   Thanks,
   LT


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Re: HTML-formatted mail

1998-06-17 Thread James Boorn

Waste of bandwidth.  Put up a web page and email the url to subscribers
when it gets updated.

On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, Anthony E. Greene wrote:

 I see formatted email (via HTML or any other scheme) as useful only within
 organizatons or specified groups. Within those limits it can be *very*
 useful. I have a newsletter that I'd like to publish in a fashion that's
 readable with all it's formatting from within the recipient's mail client.
 Hopefully HTML-aware mail readers will be common enough to make this possible.
 
 But for open lists and unknown recipients, only plain text is really suitable.
 
  Tony
 
 
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Setting Default Root Cursor in Xwindows/FVWM95

1998-06-17 Thread Anthony E. Greene

I'd like to set my default cursor to a left pointer. Anyone know where this
is set?

 Tony


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Re: Pine/Sendmail

1998-06-17 Thread Derek Balling

At 06:15 6/17/98 -0400, wward wrote:
Hello,
I'am trying to standardized my "From:" in my e-mail. To be more specific
I'am trying to use the name my ISP has assign me, which is different
than my user name. I tried to use the Pine mechanism, customize-header,
but when I went to send an e-mail it told me I couldn't cutomize "From".
My next solution is to use Sendmail mechanism, which I'am not looking
forward to, however, I've read that Pine will override. Is there anyway
I can change the "From:" on e-mail?

Use Netscape mail. Or you could set the Reply-To in pine. Tht won't change
what recipients see but it will chnange their mail client's reply behavior.

Your answer doesn't mean much if the person asking the question hasn't
installed the bloat that is X Windows. Yes, I have it installed and you may
have it installed, but his use of pine would seem to indicate that he's in
a text environment, and so a solution within that environment would be
better offered. :)

Not that I have all the answers either. :)

Derek


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Can anybody elaborate on this?

1998-06-17 Thread Robert Nicholson

This is a little vague for me.

Supposing I have a RedHat tree on a FAT filesystem ... 

What does it mean by

[Intel Systems: If you are using a DOS filesystem, you will not be able to
use the full Linux filenames for the RPM packages. The installation
process does not care what the filenames look like, but it is a good idea
that you keep track of them. 



When I install a package from a fat filesystem will the rpm logs show
the full linux filename of the package that was installed or will it
only show the translated name in the logs?



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Endless Loop O' Links

1998-06-17 Thread Robert Hailman

HELP! I tried to change my X server to VGA_16 while I figure out my new
video card (I am using 4.2), and when I run startx, it says there is no
server. When I run the server itself (X), it says there are to many links,
and when I runm XF86VGA_16, it says the same thing. Turns out the two are
links to eachother! How can I install the VGA_16 Server?

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Re: HTML-formatted mail

1998-06-17 Thread Anthony E. Greene

At 08:15 6/17/98 -0600, James Boorn wrote:
Maybe I am just dense, so please enlighten me.  What problem does HTML
email solve?  I see no reason for it, and am one of those that just
deletes it.  But maybe if I knew the problem it solved I'ld be willing to
consider it a solution.

HTML can serve as a common platform-independant document format. So anytime
it would be appropriate to send an attached document via email, HTML may be
able to suffice.

I know that postscript and PDF are available, but not many DOS/Win users
have a postscript viewer. And how many people on any platform have the
tools to create PDF documents? HTML tools are more common and even those
whose mail readers don't directly support it can read the document with
another tool they have available (i.e., a browser).

This scenario is much more likely in an organizational environment than on
open mailing lists.

 Tony


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change the harddrive

1998-06-17 Thread Nima Mortazavi

Hi

I have my linux system on a 420 Mb harddrive (/dev/hdc) 
This harddrive has 2 partition one for linux system (/dev/hdc2) and one partition for 
swap (/dev/hdc1).
lilo has master boot in /dev/hdc

I have now a new harddrive (/dev/hda) and want to move alla my linux system and swap 
to this new harddrive.
Could someone here explain for me exackt how should I do it ?

Regards,
  Nima Mortazavi



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Re: HTML-formatted mail

1998-06-17 Thread Anthony E. Greene

At 08:19 6/17/98 -0600, James Boorn wrote:
[about emailing HTML formatted documents]
Waste of bandwidth.  Put up a web page and email the url to subscribers
when it gets updated.

 • Some people prefer push.

 • Some do not have toll-free local calling (not everyone lives in the
U.S.). Downloading from a local mail server is usually faster than GETting
from a (distant?) Web site.

 • Not all organizations have access to a web server to post documents. 

 • Managing an email distribution list is easier than managing user access
to a web server if you need to restrict distribution of the document. This
is especially true if you don't own the server. But any competent email
user can manage a list of addresses in their preferred mail client.

One size does not fit all. Besides, the only bandwidth saved will be for
those users that do not retrieve the document. That will vary on a
case-by-case basis. There _is_ a place for HTML mail.

 Tony


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RH 5.1, 2940UW, Linux 2.1.106, failure

1998-06-17 Thread W. Wade, Hampton

Folks,

I have a Dell Workstation 400 with an Adaptec 2940 UW.
My software is RedHat 5.1 (5.0 upgrade).  With the Linux
kernel 2.0.34, this system works fine.  With kernel 2.1.106,
at boot time it finds the controller then reports a timeout,
then goes into an infinite loop with reset/timeout messages.
This is the boot disk and controller and is not being loaded
as module (not using initrd).  I had hoped to try the SMP
features of 2.1.x (I can grab another PII/300 for testing), but
am currently stuck.  Note the 2.0.34 kernel was also built
from the tarball, is not the RedHat shipped one, and is
also not using initrd, and it works.

scsi0:  Adaptec ... EISA/VLGB/PCI) 5.0.18/3.2.4
...
scsi aborting command due to timeout:  pid 1, scsi0, channel 0, id 0,
lun0 Inquiry 00 00 00 FF 00
...
SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
SCSI host 0 abort (pid1) timed out - resetting
[repeated until I reboot the system]

SCSI bus contains:
0Segate ST19171W ID 0
5NEC CD-ROm

Kernel built with gcc-2.7.2.3-11 [RH 5.1 stock RPM]

Any help would be appreciated

Cheers,

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Re: Pine/Sendmail

1998-06-17 Thread Mike Johnson


Hello,
I'am trying to standardized my "From:" in my e-mail. To be more specific
I'am trying to use the name my ISP has assign me, which is different
than my user name. I tried to use the Pine mechanism, customize-header,
but when I went to send an e-mail it told me I couldn't cutomize "From".
My next solution is to use Sendmail mechanism, which I'am not looking
forward to, however, I've read that Pine will override. Is there anyway
I can change the "From:" on e-mail?

I missed the original message, so I'm replying to this followup...

Anyways, to get Pine to let you change your "From" header, you have to
download the source to Pine, change a line in one of the config files,
and recompile.

Grab the SRPM, apply all the patches, and such, then edit the 
pine/osdep/os-lnx.h file.  Look for the ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM line and
set that.  There might be some other things in there you want to change,
that's up to you.  Save the file, and follow the instructions for
building (cd into the pine3.96 directory, run ./build lnx, if I
remember correctly).

That'll then allow you to change the "From" field by the procedures you
were following.

Mike

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Re: HTML-formatted mail

1998-06-17 Thread Robert Ruedisueli

Anthony E. Greene wrote:
 
 I see formatted email (via HTML or any other scheme) as useful only within
 organizatons or specified groups. Within those limits it can be *very*
 useful. I have a newsletter that I'd like to publish in a fashion that's
 readable with all it's formatting from within the recipient's mail client.
 Hopefully HTML-aware mail readers will be common enough to make this possible.
 
 But for open lists and unknown recipients, only plain text is really suitable.
 
  Tony
 
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I've found that HTML mail is best for recieving newsletters in, but on
most systems the tabs get messed up, and making it hard to build
columns, unless you have a mail editor that can allow you to write such
commands, I do not feel that the internet is ready for everyday messages
to be in HTML.

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LPRng

1998-06-17 Thread wilfrid Gaboriaud


Has anyone install LPRng on RedHat 5.0 ?
i have tryed LPRng-3.4.2-1 and LPRng-3.5.1
but both won't print to SMB printer
they print to Network printer but only the first 3 lines because
 a newline begin at the end of the preceeding line.

HELP

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*   La Rochelle
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*  http://www-iut.univ-lr.fr/
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Re: Endless Loop O' Links

1998-06-17 Thread Robert Ruedisueli

Robert Hailman wrote:
 
 HELP! I tried to change my X server to VGA_16 while I figure out my new
 video card (I am using 4.2), and when I run startx, it says there is no
 server. When I run the server itself (X), it says there are to many links,
 and when I runm XF86VGA_16, it says the same thing. Turns out the two are
 links to eachother! How can I install the VGA_16 Server?
 
 Thanks In advance!

This is most likely fixed in a newer version of XFree86, you could try
checking a few of the RPM carrying sites for an RPM to upgrade from.


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Re: monitors: plug 'n play okay?

1998-06-17 Thread Robert Ruedisueli

Leston Buell wrote:
 
 I'm a newbie considering upgrading to a 17" monitor from one of those
 online auctions. I've read the Red Hat hardware support page, which doesn't
 actually have a section on monitors, but i want to know if the general lack
 of compatibility with Plug 'n Play applies to monitors as well. ¿Do plug 'n
 play monitors usually/sometimes have a non-plug 'n play mode which i could
 use with Linux or should i steer clear of any monitor which is plug 'n play?
 
 Leston Buell
 
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 only much, MUCH better."
 --Laurie Anderson
 
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I started using Linux 3 months ago, and I've never had a problem with my
PnP monitor, you do however have to make sure the scan rates are either
listed in your manual or on your monitor's makers' homepage.


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Re: monitors: plug 'n play okay?

1998-06-17 Thread Ed Jaeger

I use linux on pnp monitors.  No problems w/XFree86 or console mode - I think
the video drivers just ignore pnp info, which is fine with me.  Two systems
dual (duel :P) boot NT, one is dedicated linux.

Leston Buell wrote:
 
 of compatibility with Plug 'n Play applies to monitors as well. ¿Do plug 'n
 play monitors usually/sometimes have a non-plug 'n play mode which i could

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Re: monitors: plug 'n play okay?

1998-06-17 Thread William T Wilson

On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, Leston Buell wrote:

 actually have a section on monitors, but i want to know if the general
 lack of compatibility with Plug 'n Play applies to monitors as well. ¿Do

No.  Plug 'n' Play with respect to monitors is a marketing gimmick.  It
effectively means that it is a monitor that won't burn itself out if you
feed it frequencies it can't display.

Plug 'n Play monitors have a return signal to the video card that tells
the card whether the frequency is valid or not.  I'm not aware of any real
use for this.  I'm certain that X-windows doesn't care about it, and I'm
also certain that it causes no problems.




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change the harddrive

1998-06-17 Thread Nima Mortazavi

Hi

I have my linux system on a 420 Mb harddrive (/dev/hdc) 
This harddrive has 2 partition one for linux system (/dev/hdc2) and one partition for 
swap (/dev/hdc1).
lilo has master boot in /dev/hdc

I have now a new harddrive (/dev/hda) and want to move alla my linux system and swap 
to this new harddrive.
Could someone here explain for me exackt how should I do it ?

Regards,
  Nima Mortazavi



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Re: monitors: plug 'n play okay?

1998-06-17 Thread Dan Cyr


There is no such thing as a Plug 'N Play Monitor.

It's just the computer manufacturers that are feeding on peoples lack of
knowledge to suck them into buying their monitor. They think (and with good
cause) that people will buy it because Plug 'N Play is supposed to be such
a 'great' thing. I (and most people I know), HATE Plug 'N Play "Everything"
(except for monitors =) It can cause such headaches (hence the term "Plug
'N Pray").The industry really should have made "ALL" PnP devices able
to be NON-PnP buy way of LEAVING the jumpers on the I/O cards. Sheesh, this
is like the automobile industry coming out with a system that no longer
requires a steering wheel in cars (which would be somewhat cool). BUT then
taking the steering wheel out of the cars..I mean come on, give us the
choice!

ALL monitors are "Plug 'N Play"! (So to speak) Always have been, 'always'
will be! IMHO.
It either works, or it's broken! (or your using the wrong monitor for your
video card. eg. EGA verses VGA).

Don't feel stupid, your obviously new to this stuff...you'll learn.


Dan

At 08:07 AM 6/17/98 -0700, you wrote:
I'm a newbie considering upgrading to a 17" monitor from one of those
online auctions. I've read the Red Hat hardware support page, which doesn't
actually have a section on monitors, but i want to know if the general lack
of compatibility with Plug 'n Play applies to monitors as well. ¿Do plug 'n
play monitors usually/sometimes have a non-plug 'n play mode which i could
use with Linux or should i steer clear of any monitor which is plug 'n play?


Leston Buell

"Paradise is exactly like where you are right now,
   only much, MUCH better." 
   --Laurie Anderson

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/leston
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Re: HTML-formatted mail

1998-06-17 Thread Derek Balling


One size does not fit all. Besides, the only bandwidth saved will be for
those users that do not retrieve the document. That will vary on a
case-by-case basis. There _is_ a place for HTML mail.

That may be. But not in my mailbox. :)



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monitors: plug 'n play okay?

1998-06-17 Thread Leston Buell

I'm a newbie considering upgrading to a 17" monitor from one of those
online auctions. I've read the Red Hat hardware support page, which doesn't
actually have a section on monitors, but i want to know if the general lack
of compatibility with Plug 'n Play applies to monitors as well. ¿Do plug 'n
play monitors usually/sometimes have a non-plug 'n play mode which i could
use with Linux or should i steer clear of any monitor which is plug 'n play?


Leston Buell

"Paradise is exactly like where you are right now,
only much, MUCH better." 
--Laurie Anderson

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/leston
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Re: Space problem?

1998-06-17 Thread tyrant


This is a response to the lovely language in the response to the
question below...I'd have to say thats pretty unappropriate...and the
files he removed are really inconsequential(at least in my point of view).  

As an answer to Wayne's question, don't go by the percentage necessarily,
because linux does leave some extra space that is not covered by the
percentage...for example
1024-Blocks  Used  Available
1484355682000  725647

If you check, 682000 plus 725647 equals 1407647...so unless i'm missing
something here, you do have extra space...


 My system informed me that I had no space left in the root filesystem.
 So, I removed a bunch of files totaling about 20meg. When I did a "df"
 the filesystem still shows no space available. Where is the space
 I freed-up?
 Wayne 
 
 Excuse me, but how the Hell are any of us supposed to know what files you
 removed and from where?  We have no idea what you did, how you did it and
 where you did it.  We have no idea the layout of your system, etc., etc.
 
 In other words, our crystal balls are in the shop and you must therefore
 provide details, lots of details.
 
 Sorry to be terse, but questions like this are impossible to answer.
 
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Re: beginner's question re RH 5.0 install

1998-06-17 Thread Maureen Beck

Can anyone advise me on how to  install RH 5.0 from a CD-rom ?
I get as far as the menu that asks what kind of CD-rom driver -- my CD -rom
drive is a USDRIVEs 24DT . It is an atapi compliant drive attached to a
Soundblaster card. My problem is: when I get to the menu, I am offered a
choice of SCSI or "Other CD-rom"; the manual inidcates that atapi should be
one of the choices. Am I missing something obvious? (please be gentle!)

Maureen Beck
Milton's Web Coordinator
Milton S. Eisenhower Library
The Johns Hopkins University
http://www.mse.jhu.edu:8001/people/Beck.Maureen.html


Maureen Beck
Milton's Web Coordinator
Milton S. Eisenhower Library
The Johns Hopkins University
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Reinstall problem

1998-06-17 Thread Darque

I am needing to reinstall RH5.0, but would like to retain the /home
and /usr/local directories.  I created each as seperate partions as
recomended in my initial install, but didn't write details anywhere.
When I start to reinstall and it asks for all the partition info, 
I'm not sure how to determine what to put to retain those partions
in tact.  Is there any way for me to determine this?

Thanks,
jdk
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Figuring out free IRQs.

1998-06-17 Thread nimennor


Hi,
This may sound stupid, but I have no idea on how to
do this.  I just bought additional parallel card (
ISA, not p-n-p ), and I have to set jumpers for IRQ.

I cat'ed /proc/devices, to see if the first number
represent IRQ, however, I saw something like 36, so I
decided it was not what I wanted.

Also, I checked with /proc/interrupts, but I did not
see lp, as I did in /proc/devices, so I figured that
some stuff might be missing.

Anyway, how can I find out which IRQs are already
taken, and which ones I can use.

Thanks,
Nikita.


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Bug? Powerd not owned by a package..

1998-06-17 Thread Tim Hockin

/sbin/powerd used to be owned by SysVinit - but now it is not owned at all.

It is still INSTALLED, but no man page is found, and no package claims
ownership.  was this intentional?

Tim


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sendmail error

1998-06-17 Thread redhat

Does anyone know why I would get this error from sendmail when I try to
access the inbox via POP?

"Could not log into the mail server. The server responded: 
being read already /var/spool/mail/username. Please enter new password
for user [EMAIL PROTECTED]"

I get this message for only one account on the machine.  Is there some
lock file that needs to be deleted or something?

Thanks,
Bryan Opfer


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RE: 3c590 and PCI-SCSI card confict IRQ conflict

1998-06-17 Thread Paul Pettit

 From: Michael Jinks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 1998 12:41 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: 3c590 and PCI-SCSI card confict IRQ conflict


 John J. Donohue wrote:

  Try moving one or both of the cards to different PCI slots
 and see if that
  "encourages" them to choose different IRQ's.

 Also suggested was disabling IRQ11 in the BIOS and forcing a
 different choice
 that way.  Neither one worked.

 Here's what we've now done:

 -- In the BIOS, turned off IRQ11 for PCI, rebooted; both the
 SCSI card and the
 net card still chose IRQ11. (???)


What is the BIOS reporting as the IRQ for the two cards (if it does) on
POST?
Going into BIOS, is there a PCI "first choice" menu? Can you disable BIOS
from choosing the IRQ for the PCI cards? Is BIOS choosing the IRQs or not?
Is there a setup/config app for your SCSI card for DOS? If so what does it
say?
Simple questions I know but I just want to see what you are.

 -- Swapped the net card and the video card (this box only has
 3 PCI slots);
 booted DOS and looked at the 3com card using their config
 utility; it had
 chosen IRQ9.  Okay; exited that utility, rebooted the
 machine, and by the time
 Linux loaded, the 3com card had snapped back to IRQ11 again.


Does RH show that et0 is at "address  IRQ 11" durring LILO/kerneld load?
This still might be a RH setup problem. There is a file that sets/records
the IRQs for devices, /proc/interupts, and check /proc/pci. In the least
this will give you more info to find out why IRQ 11 is being grabed by both
cards.

Let me know what you find.

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on the road you would have to buy a new car. Occasionally your car would
die on the freeway for no reason, and you would just accept this,
restart and drive on. You could only have one person in the car at a
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buy more seats. Macintosh would make a car that was powered by the sun,
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Several problems...RH 5.0 kernel 2.0.31

1998-06-17 Thread Patrick O'Neil

I have posted to several linux newsgroups in search of an
answer to these questions, but so far, no answer so here 
I go again.

I am having difficulty setting up my window manager, fvwm2,
and getting both my PPA Zip drive and the connected Epson
Color Stylus 600 working.  When I installed RH 5.0, I did
install printer support AND I selected "Yes" to the question
regarding SCSI support...I selected PPA Zip drive.  Now,
I can neither access my zip drive nor print.

The printer and Zip drive are connected to lpt1.  With 
printtool, I have set up my printer as /dev/lp0 and 
named it lp.  It doesn't work.  If I try to run Tests
and print ascii either to the port or to the spooler, I get
an error message telling there is no such device or port.
If I try to Add a new printer and this time make it /dev/lp1,
I get a dialog window indicating no devices detected on lp0,
lp1, nor lp2.  As for the Zip, how does this work, period?
Does it automount, being "SCSI" or do I have to mount it?
If I have to mount it, where does it reside?  What directory?

I did get one suggestion that I recompile a kernel with 
support for all this built in...but I thought that was 
essentially what I did during the initial install when I 
selected yes to scsi and then selected PPA Zip AND when 
I selected "install printer support".

Now for the window manager.  As root I have no problems.  I
can login and startx and get fvwm2 with the fvwm95 style.
When I first started X that was the default it went to.  
When I added myself a user account, logged in and then 
ran startx, same thing.  The correct (desired) fvwm2 started
with fvwm95 style running.

I then added a user account for my wife and was showing 
her how to logon and then how to start X...but instead
of getting a wm when she typed "startx", she got the 
initial grey-background screen with the X cursor in the 
center - and nothing else.  It didn't go any further. 
Clicking any mouse button did nothing EXCEPT that the
left mouse button gave me a very brief menu with one item
in it:  Exit fvwm.

I then tried to fix this by looking for .fvwm2rc somewhere.
It didn't and doesn't exist anywhere on my system.  There IS
a system.fvwm2rc and it has a "linked" icon on it when viewed
with xfm, so I am assuming that .fvwm2rc is linked to 
system.fvwm2rc.  If so, why doesn't my wife get a window
manager when running startx?  To top that off, while messing
around with various files like system.fvwm2rc and .xinitrc,
I managed to eliminate my own user account window manager.
At this time ONLY root can start a functional fvwm2 and only
root gets fvwm95 style...yet I can't find any fvwm2-specific
files anywhere within the /root directory.  I have no idea
why root can start and use the window manager but no other
user can.

I am a newbie here so please be gentle and PLEASE tell me
what I need to do to correct the problems mentioned above.

How do I fix the problem with my printer and zip drive (and
why isn't linux seeing my printer...is it because of the zip
drive?  Just where is my zip drive in the directory structure?
Do I have to actively mount it?  How do I set up my GLOBAL
default window manager to be fvwm2 using the fvwm95 style?
Anytime I add a new user, I want them to be able to startx
and get the same default window manager and the same look
and feel as everyone else.  Of course, i assume that any
info provided on how to do this would also indicate the
means by which I would make GNOME or KDE my universal,
global default window manager.

Thank you in advance for any guidance and aid,

-If I can avoid it, I really would like to avoid having 
to do a kernel compile/recompile at this time.  It doesn't 
seem that it should be necessary given the RH installation
process and its relative simplicity - and I DID select all
the correct things required for running a PPA zip and Epson
printer on lpt1.

patrick


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Re: printing problems, ppa zip disk, and RH 5.0

1998-06-17 Thread Ignacio Rodriguez



Patrick O'Neil wrote:

 I have finally gotten my RH system configured and ALMOST up to
 full functionality.  I do have a problem with printing, however.

 I have an Epson Stylus Color 600 attached to lpt1 as well as
 a PPA Zip drive.  I installed scsi support for the PPA during
 initial install but have not seen, or been able to mount, my
 Zip drive.  Now, I believe that installing support for this
 Zip drive is also the source of my problems printing.  If I
 use the printtool and try to test print anything, nothing
 happens.  I have my printer set up as /dev/lp0 but have also
 tried /dev/lp1 to no avail.  When I try a test print of text
 I get a message telling me:

 "Error printing test page to lp

 Error reason:  lpr:  connect: No such file or directory
 Jobs queued, but cannot start daemon."

 The printer is properly attached (I can print without problems
 in OS/2).  I thought I read somewhere that there is a problem or
 trick to printing when the port is shared with a Zip drive but
 am not certain.

 What am I doing wrong?  First, where do I look for my zip drive
 so I can mount/umount it?  How do I get my printer working under
 the circumstances?

I also have a Zip at /dev/lp0 (lpt1) and the manufacturer says it's not
compatible with Linux. I have never tried printing, but, have you tried
disconnecting the zip?



 Thanks for any aid and guidance,
 patrick

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RE: beginners help for redhat linux

1998-06-17 Thread Paul Pettit

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 1998 2:53 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: beginners help for redhat linux


 Hi
 Is there a list for linux newbies thats not quite as busy as this
 one. I find that when I get 125 messages in the morning I end up
 deleting, without reading,  most of them. That seems like defeating
 the object to me.
 Regards
 Terry


Try the list for the distribution: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This assumes my spelling is correct and that you are
installing/using/getting-ready-to-use RedHat 5.1 :).

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"... but if we were like Microsoft, every time they repainted the lines
on the road you would have to buy a new car. Occasionally your car would
die on the freeway for no reason, and you would just accept this,
restart and drive on. You could only have one person in the car at a
time, unless you bought "Car95" or "CarNT." But then you would have to
buy more seats. Macintosh would make a car that was powered by the sun,
was reliable, five times as fast, twice as easy to drive, but would only
run on 5% of the roads. The airbag system would say "are you sure?"
before going off."
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RE: beginner's question re RH 5.0 install

1998-06-17 Thread Paul Pettit

 From: Maureen Beck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 1998 12:28 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: beginner's question re RH 5.0 install


 Can anyone advise me on how to  install RH 5.0 from a CD-rom ?
 I get as far as the menu that asks what kind of CD-rom driver
 -- my CD -rom
 drive is a USDRIVEs 24DT . It is an atapi compliant drive
 attached to a
 Soundblaster card. My problem is: when I get to the menu, I
 am offered a
 choice of SCSI or "Other CD-rom"; the manual inidcates that
 atapi should be
 one of the choices. Am I missing something obvious? (please
 be gentle!)


The reason you are being asked is the CDROM is not attached to the IDE
interface so RH5.0 isn't sure where it is. Select "Other CD-ROM" and start
tring the most obvious choices, I believe that there is a Soundblaster
selection but don't quote me. :)
Either way there should be a ATAPI driver that should work as Soundblaster
is pretty well supported.

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on the road you would have to buy a new car. Occasionally your car would
die on the freeway for no reason, and you would just accept this,
restart and drive on. You could only have one person in the car at a
time, unless you bought "Car95" or "CarNT." But then you would have to
buy more seats. Macintosh would make a car that was powered by the sun,
was reliable, five times as fast, twice as easy to drive, but would only
run on 5% of the roads. The airbag system would say "are you sure?"
before going off."
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Re: Space problem?

1998-06-17 Thread Woody

A lot of times you will find that when running low on space...and you
delete say, like you said, 20 M, that the df binary will show your
respective filesystem as 0 M left. But if you look at the actual amount to
the left of the 0, you will find that there is still some space leftI
don't know why "df" acts in this particular fashion, but this happens to me
all the time and I just ignore itfor example:

df -h

/dev/hda3 880M  871M  0 M

it shows it something like that...I apologize, I am not at my linux box at
the moment.it seems to only do this when you have say 5-10 M left on
the filesystem...it still shows it as 0 Mdunnomaybe upgrading to
the latest "df" binary will help? I just ignore it:)

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 From: Vidiot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Space problem?
 Date: Wednesday, June 17, 1998 2:29 PM
 
 This is a response to the lovely language in the response to the
 question below...I'd have to say thats pretty unappropriate...and the
 files he removed are really inconsequential(at least in my point of
view).  
 
 No, it was appropriate because it is meant to educate.  Questions that
ask
 for help but supply no trouble shooting information are begging for what
 you call "unappropriate" answers/responses.  None of us have crystal
balls
 that look at these systems and see what is there, what commands were
actually
 executed, etc.
 
 Besides, how can you say "and the files he removed are really
inconsequential"?
 He didn't say what files were removed.  We don't even know if the removed
files
 were in the path that would affect the root partition.  You must be one
of the
 few that has a working crystal ball.  Mine doesn't work.  So tell us,
where
 did you get yours?  :-)
 
 Original posting was"
 
  My system informed me that I had no space left in the root
filesystem.
  So, I removed a bunch of files totaling about 20meg. When I did a
"df"
  the filesystem still shows no space available. Where is the space
  I freed-up?
  Wayne 
 
 It provides zero information in which to proved accurate help.  We can
all
 make WAGs, but I'm sure he is looking for results.
 
 MB
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Re: HTML-formatted mail

1998-06-17 Thread Robert Hailman

At 08:19 6/17/98 -0600, James Boorn wrote:
[about emailing HTML formatted documents]
Waste of bandwidth.  Put up a web page and email the url to subscribers
when it gets updated.

 • Some people prefer push.

 • Some do not have toll-free local calling (not everyone lives in the
U.S.). Downloading from a local mail server is usually faster than GETting
from a (distant?) Web site.

 • Not all organizations have access to a web server to post documents. 

 • Managing an email distribution list is easier than managing user access
to a web server if you need to restrict distribution of the document. This
is especially true if you don't own the server. But any competent email
user can manage a list of addresses in their preferred mail client.

One size does not fit all. Besides, the only bandwidth saved will be for
those users that do not retrieve the document. That will vary on a
case-by-case basis. There _is_ a place for HTML mail.

 Tony


You're right... there IS a place for HTML main, but it's not here.
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Re: Named for an Intranet

1998-06-17 Thread Casey Bralla

On Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:27:56 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Guy's,
need some help with my home network, specifically named..


Great how to at "www.dns.net/dnsrd/docs/basic/txt".  I got my DNS
system working for my home intranet.


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Re: Vibe, Galaxy and Visix

1998-06-17 Thread Art Stine

On 17 Jun 1998, Eze Ogwuma wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Does anyone know how to reach Visix the makers of Vibe and Galaxy?

I used to work for Visix - they closed down a couple months ago.
If you do a 'whois visix.com', you should be able to get a number for
Deborah Bedell, who is the President now. They aren't selling product any
more, but last I knew, they were still selling source code (for alot -
like $20K-50K)

-art


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Re: worng domain name in email header

1998-06-17 Thread Dave Parker

Robert W. Canary wrote:

Hi,

I don't know if this a sendmail problem or network configuration
problem.

All mail that goes through my SMPT is referanced as
(user)@office.ohiocounty.net it is supposed to be
(user)@ohiocounty.net.  If I try to send mail to an account with
(user)@ohiocounty.net it gets returned to me (or whoever sends it). 
Even the mail daemon has an address of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

any suggestion on this?

thanks in advance :-)

And that's not all.  It's also sending out about 10 copies of each email
you send to the list.
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Making a RedHat CD-R

1998-06-17 Thread Brian Wright

Hello!

Yesterday, I downloaded RedHat 5.1 from Sunsite.  I want to make a CD-R
with the RedHat distribution.  The problem is, I only have Windoze 95
(gag!) and a Smart and Friendly CD-RW 226, and I have two software
programs, CdQuadrat WinOnCD 3.5 and Adaptec EZ CD Creator 3.01b.

I used WinOnCD 3.5 to make an ISO-9660 CD-R with 128 character filenames.
I was able to make the boot and support disk, but when RedHat tried to
init the CD-ROM, it reported that it wasn't a valid CD.  Nothing in the
FAQs about how to do this. :)

In short, where am I going wrong?

Many thanks,
Brian


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re: configuring accentuation

1998-06-17 Thread Michael Lees

Try LaTex (use the tetex rpm).
There is a package called Babel that deals with a variety of languages.
LaTex itself can produce a large variety of accents. I would be quite 
surprised if it 
is unable to produce the accents that you are after.

Regards
  Michael

 

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Re: beginner's question re RH 5.0 install

1998-06-17 Thread Dan Cornilescu

Maureen Beck wrote:
 
 Can anyone advise me on how to  install RH 5.0 from a CD-rom ?
 I get as far as the menu that asks what kind of CD-rom driver -- my CD -rom
 drive is a USDRIVEs 24DT . It is an atapi compliant drive attached to a
 Soundblaster card. My problem is: when I get to the menu, I am offered a

The SoundBlaster "IDE" port used to be not 100% IDE compatible,
at least on my old Discovery 2x kit.
Don't know about the new ones.
I used at the time the sbpcd driver (actually I still do, as the
second CD drive)
My new IDE cdrom is connected to the IDE controller, had no
problems with it. It has no impact on the soundcard, if this
worries you.
If your CD is really IDE (quite probable) and you still have a
free IDE connector, try connecting it there. A newer motherboard
should auto-detect it.
And you can keep the small audio cable between the CD and the
soundcard, for playing audio CDs :)

Or,

Usually newer motherboards have 2 IDE controllers (each
supporting 2 devices) so you probably need to instruct linux to
use the third controller, on the sound card, if you really need
to keep the CD connected to the soundcard. Not sure how to do it
and if the shipped kernel has support for the third IDE (at least
it doesn't probe it by default). 

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lpd 0.31 broken

1998-06-17 Thread Jacob A. Langford

lpd is broken (i386 version at least).

redhat 5.1 -  lpr 0.21.2 - updated to lpr 0.31.1
redhat 5.1 -  lpr 0.31.4

Between 0.17 and 0.21 something got broken.  The daemon
acts as if every printcap entry had :rs=true:, thus only
honoring remote print requests from valid users.  Intentional
(security paranoia) or accidental, I don't know, but it
looks like a bug to me.

I witnessed these problems on a default 5.1 installation,
no updates.

The message log shows "can't find user; can't fork".

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Re: boot disk

1998-06-17 Thread David E. Fox

On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Kevin Seguin wrote:
is it possible to create a disk to boot from during installation of
rh5.0?  i have NT on my machine now, and i want to install red hat so i

It seems pretty convoluted, and I would think that somewhere in there
there's something redundant, but I don't know where exactly since I 
only run Linux here.

At any rate, any time you want to make a boot disk in Linux, you
can do so by first copying the linux kernel over to a floppy, and then
setting the root device on the floppy. The root device is the partition
that you boot linux from; example /dev/hda1.

As root, do:

# dd if=/vmlinuz of=/dev/fd0
# rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/hda1

Then you should be able to boot the floppy and go straight into Linux.
If you want to run NT, then don't boot off of the floppy. At least
that's how I'd go about it, and it seems a simpler approach.

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Re: HTML-formatted mail

1998-06-17 Thread Tony Wells

Greg Fall writes:

snipand maybe he doesn't even realize that he is using HTML.
end of snip

Since I accidentally started this thread, I've kept silent,
waiting for a response of this type. Now it has popped up, here is
my reply.

The snip above digs deep into the golden thread of why this list
exists.

People that post to this list are usually asking a question, and
want an answer. If the person is a newbie, perhaps just starting
Linux for the first time after some time with Microsoft then they
have been mostly insulated from the (lets face it) rather complex
world of mail technology.

If the (unpublished) convention of *this* list is to use
flat-ascii, then that is one convention. Other lists may not be
the same. Someone who does not send a message in the convention of
this list is not necessarily being divisive, they just don't know.
And will never know unless someone mentions it.

Deleting a question from a newbie will possibly result in a
non-reply to a posting. If the problem never gets fixed it will
prejudice that person against using Linux.

Worse than that, a reply back to a newbie with a grossly
innapropriate word like 'crap'   will have greater negative
impact.

I would gently suggest that if there is any interest at all in
promoting Linux, then messages from newbies should have some
priority.

My penultimate comment is to those that are concerned about wading
thru large quantities of mail and have no time to deal with
'difficult' messages, I would gently suggest that you improve your
mail filters. I get about 800 messages a day and have no trouble
weeding.

Lastly my comments on html vs flat ascii. Despite the resistance
of this list, markup text will become the predominant email of
choice across the globe. People want illustrated text. For the
person that pointed to history as defense of plain text, can I
point out that bibles used illustrated lettering back in those
olden days. Even my 1890's copy of Venn's Symbolic Logic has some
illustrated text.

IMHO

I'm off now to go back to my valve computer and 5-bit teletype.

Kind regards,
Tony Wells
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Re: 3c590 and PCI-SCSI card confict IRQ conflict

1998-06-17 Thread Tony Wells

Hi Michael,

I havn't used a 3c590 before, but the following usually works for
other 3coms. The technique includes running the configuration
program for the card. If there isn;t a configuration program, just
miss out the config steps.

1. Reset the motherboard to factory defaults.

2. Take the scsi card out.

3. Boot from a msdos floppy and run 3C5X9CFG (on the distribution
floppy) or its equivalent for the 590(3c9x5?).

4. Set the IRQ using the automatic configuration.

5. Shutdown

6. Put the scsi card in.

7. Boot from a msdos floppy. Check the irqs

8. Adjust (fiddle) with the factory defaults to your liking.

This usually works.

If you can't find a copy of the config program it ought to be on
the 3com website. www.3com.com is the url I think. If you can;t
get to the website, ask me and I'll send you a copy.

Let me know how you get on.
Kind regards,
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Re: Reinstall problem

1998-06-17 Thread Dan Cornilescu

Darque wrote:
 
 I am needing to reinstall RH5.0, but would like to retain the /home
 and /usr/local directories.  I created each as seperate partions as
 recomended in my initial install, but didn't write details anywhere.

Good that you did that. "df -a" should give an idea about who's
who. Write it down. :)

 When I start to reinstall and it asks for all the partition info,
 I'm not sure how to determine what to put to retain those partions
 in tact.  Is there any way for me to determine this?

Last thing before installing, I would suggest to rename a few
standard directories in /usr/local (and in home), if they're not
empty, in order to not have them overwritten during instalation:
bin, lib, etc, sbin, src, man(?), games(?).

Do not re-partition the drives. (choose directly done in the
partitioning screen).
When you're asked what partitions should be mounted where, just
choose what you wrote down earlier.
When you're asked what partitions should be formatted
(reccomending to also format /usr/local), pay attention not to
format the ones you want to keep :)

After install, compare the renamed directories with the newly
created ones and do the necessary merges, then you can carefully
delete the old ones.
That should be it. 

dan


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Sorry

1998-06-17 Thread RTS

Sorry about the returned mail to the list Shouldn't happen again...

Anyway .. For the cause of it...

I am trying to set up a virtual mail server for a client... I am having a
brain beating time doing it.

I have sendmail-8.8.5-4 on an older RedHat Linux system. (rpm version)

I have tried several different things and nothing seems to work.

Where is a good place to go for directions on virtual mail.  (ie anyone
want to give instructions)

Randy

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stdio.h

1998-06-17 Thread Paul VanDyke

what rpm does the file stdio.h come in?

I just can't seem to find it on my system and I am thinking I just didn't
install it.  I am running RedHat 5.0

Thanks!!

Paul VanDyke


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Re: Scourge of Armagon on Linux?

1998-06-17 Thread Christopher Fisk

yes

On Wed, 17 Jun 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Hi,
   I have searched the web, looking if it is possible to
   run Scourge of Armagon ( Quake add-on pack ) on
   Linux.  So far, I did not find any definite answers.  

   Is it possible?


Thanks,
Nikita.


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Environment variables

1998-06-17 Thread J. Carlos Cristobal

Hello!:

   Just a curious question, where do I read about the Environment variables for RH? 
I've read some instructions which tell me to change or add them but I just don't know 
anything about this, For example, when I call edquota it says it will call "vi" or the 
editor is defined for me, but Again I don't know, any help?

Thanks in advance...
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Re: Burning a RedHat CD - The Full Story

1998-06-17 Thread Cheng Yuan-Chung

On Wed, Jun 17, 1998 at 07:54:40PM +0800, Graham wrote:
  mkisofs -b misc/boot/autoboot.img -c misc/boot/boot.catalog -a
  -A "RedHat Linux 5.0 with Patches to 06/02/98" -d -L
  -o /temp/RH5.iso -P "Publisher ID" -p "Preparer ID" -r -T
  -N /temp/rh5
  

Thanks for this artical, it helps me a lot.

But can anyone tell me that where can I find "autoboot.img"
and "boot.catalog" ???

I can't find these two files in the misc/boot . :(


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Sound Card [Q]

1998-06-17 Thread Oleg Bulavsky

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I have a Vibra16 PnP in my Linux box.
In MustDie'95 it looks that it have io220, irq10
and two dma 1  0. And it works as true 16-bit card.
When I boot Linux it tell me that there are no 16-bit
dma then use dma1 for 8 bit. So I have not 16-bit
sound in Linux. Card is initialised by PnP-able BIOS.

So, what can I do for 16 bit?

Thanks in advance.
Oleg Bulavsky.


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Applixware question (been awhile)

1998-06-17 Thread Bozarth

Folks,

I know I should post this to the Applix list, but I'm not a member, I
don't have time to sign up, and I *sure* don't have time to read another
list.  I hope someone here can help me with what I think may be a minor
problem, but could possibly prove to be a "suite-buster".  I suspect I'm
just missing a RPM.

Where the heck are the Applix Words "Save as" filters for RTF, Word, WP,
etc.?  I pulled up a doc in older Applix format, changed it, and wanted
to save it as RTF, and had no option.  Am I missing something?  Applix's
README brags brazenly about the filters.  I went for a "standard"
install.  I can't find a "filters" RPM on the CD.  "Where's them damned
filter thingies?"

Mike


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Re: ircd make errors...

1998-06-17 Thread hUnTeR

Evening all -

Another set of problems/questions...not sure how many of you have
compiled ircd on your rh linux boxes but i am trying to recompile ircd
(ircu2.9.32) on a newly installed rhl5.0 kernel 2.0.34 server (formerly
freebsd). I ran the Config and edited the /include/config.h file and
Makefiles but not quite sure which CFLAGS to use or IRCDLIBS. As a
result, when i run make i get this:

[abirc@phoenix ircu2.9.32]$ make
Building common
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/abirc/ircu2.9.32/common'
gcc -g -I../include -O   -c bsd.c -o bsd.o
In file included from /usr/include/strings.h:28,
 from ../include/sys.h:41,
 from ../include/struct.h:26,
 from bsd.c:26:
/usr/include/string.h:139: conflicting types for `strtok'
../include/common.h:63: previous declaration of `strtok'
bsd.c:34: conflicting types for `sys_errlist'
/usr/include/stdio.h:221: previous declaration of `sys_errlist'
make[1]: *** [bsd.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/abirc/ircu2.9.32/common'
Building ircd
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/abirc/ircu2.9.32/ircd'
gcc -g -I../include -O -c channel.c
In file included from /usr/include/strings.h:28,
 from ../include/sys.h:41,
 from ../include/struct.h:26,
 from channel.c:39:
/usr/include/string.h:139: conflicting types for `strtok'
../include/common.h:63: previous declaration of `strtok'
make[1]: *** [channel.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/abirc/ircu2.9.32/ircd'

And of course it errors out. Any ideas or suggestions? 

Michael Weiner
The UserFriendly Network


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login problems

1998-06-17 Thread Eric Cifreo

OK  Just moved from 4.0 to 5.1 and I've hit some quick snags.  After adding 
a couple aliases to my /etc/profile (alias ls= ls -color, etc.)  I can only 
log in as root.  No other account works, not my personal or my ppp account. 
 I don't understand it.  I've tried "passwd eric"  and all "tokens are 
updated successfully" but login under that username still fails.  I've even 
deleted it and reinstated it.  What gives?

One other minor annoyance.  When I do login as root, a message appears 
proclaiming that the system is going down on "Xtime"  (the last time I 
issued a shutdown -h command as root).  I've found the file, /etc/nologin, 
and I can edit it manually, but I can't stop it from reappearing?  Who is 
writing to this file, and how do I turn it off?

Thanks in advance.

Eric Cifreo ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Kazan Software
Austin, TX


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Re: Setting Default Root Cursor in Xwindows/FVWM95

1998-06-17 Thread Sergey Podushkin

Anthony E. Greene wrote:
 
 I'd like to set my default cursor to a left pointer. Anyone know where this
 is set?
According RedHat's Custom-X-Tips:

xsetroot -cursor_name cursorname

what you want is:

xsetroot -cursor_name left_ptr

other versions:
xsetroot -cursor_name {drapped_box, hand1, hand2, iron_cross, plus,
top_left_arrow, watch}

Sergey.
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YP/NIS+ on Red Hat 5.1?

1998-06-17 Thread Kirk Bauer

Okay, I am looking for a good information source for getting
Yellow Pages -- or even better, NIS+ -- working on my three
Red Hat Linux 5.1 machines here...

I see ypserv, etc... but I also see a /var/nis directory that
is supposed to be for NIS+.  There is a /var/yp directory, that
is obviously for YP.  

Does Red Hat Linux 5.1 have NIS+, YP, both, or some hybrid?
Where can I find a setup guide?

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Re: Making a RedHat CD-R

1998-06-17 Thread Kevin Smith

On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, Brian Wright wrote:

 Hello!
 
 Yesterday, I downloaded RedHat 5.1 from Sunsite.  I want to make a CD-R
 with the RedHat distribution.  The problem is, I only have Windoze 95
 (gag!) and a Smart and Friendly CD-RW 226, and I have two software
 programs, CdQuadrat WinOnCD 3.5 and Adaptec EZ CD Creator 3.01b.
 
 I used WinOnCD 3.5 to make an ISO-9660 CD-R with 128 character filenames.
 I was able to make the boot and support disk, but when RedHat tried to
 init the CD-ROM, it reported that it wasn't a valid CD.  Nothing in the
 FAQs about how to do this. :)
 
 In short, where am I going wrong?

Rockridge Extensions... Windows (which you downloaded onto) cannot have
more than one period (".") in a filename, so it converts to _'s... bleh...
just pay $2 and get one from cheapbytes, or pay the money for the full
release.. it's well worth it...

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Sorry

1998-06-17 Thread RTS

Sorry about the returned mail to the list Shouldn't happen again...

Anyway .. For the cause of it...

I am trying to set up a virtual mail server for a client... I am having a
brain beating time doing it.

I have sendmail-8.8.5-4 on an older RedHat Linux system. (rpm version)

I have tried several different things and nothing seems to work.

Where is a good place to go for directions on virtual mail.  (ie anyone
want to give instructions)

Randy

RTS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Director of Operations
*The box said "Windows 95, Windows NT4.0 or better".. so I installed Linux*

Always Looking For A Better Way.

Oh Yea...Found a better way

RaDaR Computer Solutions (rdr.net)


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