What are your opinions on vaccinating FelV positive kittens??
They are 5 months old and should have their first vaccinations,
but I've had immune compromised kittens die from them, so I worry.
They do not go outside but are confined to three large rooms in
my cat sanctuary.
Lorrie
On 10-05, dlg
Good for you Natalie. I was wondering if anyone would bring
that up. I can't imagine the horror and fear Romney's dog felt while
his crate was on the top of his car! I'd like to strap Romney there!!
Lorrie
On 10-04, Natalie wrote:
Actually very simple: Romney's dog on top
I don't understand why people don't change the subject line when
the subject changes???
On 10-05, Beth wrote:
This is why off-topic posts should be kept off list. I almost deleted
this because the subject line said President
The Advantage dosage I have used for years got from
On 10-05, Beth wrote:
It has sadly gotten to the point where I delete 90% of the emails I get
from this list without even reading them.
I'm sorry you feel this way Beth. I LOVE this group. I'm a member of
five yahoo cat groups and this one is my absolute favorite.
Lorrie
You declawed your cat? I will send you some information about
this. It is NOT a good thing to do.
People don't realize what's involved when a cat is declawed. They
think it's just a manicure, but it's actually amputation of the
digit of each toe along with the nail. It's a very serious and
One brief thing... The Obama Care we now have is not even close to
the way he wanted it. He had to make too many concessions to the Republicans
who really screwed it up. My opinion - and you can guess who I'll vote for.
Lorrie
On 10-04, Terri Brown wrote:
Well, I have a different
Lee, We think alike. Humans are the main cause of most of the
problems on earth! Too bad we have to keep feeding hunters, irresponsible
pet owners, polluters, and other jerks like this.
Lorrie
On 10-04, Lee Evans wrote:
During the years of concentration camps, very few babies
many cats I have now she'd turn over in her grave.
Lorrie
On 10-04, Edna Taylor wrote:
Lorrie, I agree with you 100%. My Mom has wanted to adopt several
kittens I have had in the past and I have always told her NO because
she declaws, then she complains that her cats aren't as sweet
being born. People still don't N/S as they find it much
easier to dump their unwanted cats. It is difficult not to detest
most people.. Meaning people like that who care so little about
their animals.
Lorrie
On 10-03, Natalie wrote:
Yes, it would make sense - if cats had not been
I hate bow hunting or any hunting whatsoever. I'd really love to
see a hunter with a bow stuck in him, and I'm quite delighted when
I hear that a hunter has shot his hunting buddy by mistake.
Lorrie
On 10-01, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: Bow hunting has started in my area
and I keep my cats
. Anyway these kittens have never been sick a day, they just
carry the virus from their mother. I am hoping they will test negative
at the end of October.
Lorrie
On 10-01, janine paton wrote:
Hello,
I joined this list years ago, and have now needed to rejoin. Trying to find
testing
Bow hunting is CRUEL. It often leaves the poor animal in agony and it dies a
slow painful death. We had a buck dying in our yard last winter, and we had
to call for someone to put it out of it's misery. It was horrible and I was
upset for weeks. I still can't stand to think about it.
Hunters
On 09-25, MaiMaiPG wrote:
With those beliefs, please check into a Do Not Resuscitate Order. LWs
are great but stopping something once it is started is difficult. A
DNR can help keep measures from being started.
Thanks, I'll do that. I didn't realize a DNR order was a separate thing
from
is the litter box stinks. I asked
her how often she scoops and she dodged the question. Her ex said
she never scoops! It's hard not to hate people like that.
Lorrie
On 09-25, Marcia wrote:
Yes people suck.a very good friend of mine (who I had in a pedestal)
just put her 8 year old
I couldn't have said it better Lee, you are an excellent writer and
you express yourself beautifully.
Lorrie
On 09-25, Lee Evans wrote:
The problem with euthanasia for pets is that most people will use it
for their own convenience. I have seen this happen several times and
it's
On 09-25, Marcia wrote:
My 3 other siblings and I took care of my Mom for 3 weeks while she died
at home. Her request(: hospice said no fluid, so she laid there with
nothing all that time, struggling to breath, to swallow. Etc. I only cried
one time during that 3 weeks, because I had a job
I guess your mom requested no tubes, and this is why she only
got morphine. I'm sure glad she had that. Hospice is usually
very generous with it, whereas hospitals aren't. Never go to
a hospital to die. They do everything they can to keep you alive
and they never give patients enough pain
That probably had a lot to do with it!
On 09-26, Edna Taylor wrote:
They just want to get as much MONEY from the family and their insurance
company as they can :(
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failure, and he didn't want to die in the
hospital.
He literally said to my sister (pardon the language) I am sick of this
fucking hospital. Take me home. I want to die on my couch.
So that's what he did.
Terri
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On 09-26, KG BarnCats wrote:
Some, especially the elderly or very ill, may wish to look into the
DNR bracelets. My grandmother's nursing home mislaid her file so at
the critical moment, they could not show her DNR to the paramedics --
so she was forced through a lot of intrusive procedures
On 09-26, Marcia wrote:
Hospitals aren't good at palliative care. It wasn't that my Mom requested
no tubes, it was that Hospice didn't want her to have fluids. They said it
would make her uncomfortable. I went toe to toe with that lady. Her Dr
said she could have fluids, hospice said no.
and it terrifies me to think
of not being able to end my life when I'm ready. I've signed a
Living Will requesting NO heroic measures, if I'm terminal, but
sometimes they keep you alive anyway.
Lorrie
alive-25, Edna Taylor wrote:
personally, I think we should do this for people too, end
I agree! I've had some awful results with tranquilizers. The cats
become terrified and feel out of control which adds to their fear.
Lorrie
On 09-17, Natalie wrote:
If I may offer some advice, don't sedate! My vet hates it because you
never know how any cat may react...cats get more
rooms to play in at my cat sanctuary, and I feed them well and keep them
stress free. This does help.
Lorrie
On 09-17, Maryam Ulomi wrote:
Hello,
I'm sorry for that first email. I wanted to find out if anyone had some
advice and suggestions on nutrition for the little kitten I have rescue
happy and stress free. This really
helps, and I have found heroic measures don't help, they only prolong the
inevitable. pain and stress for the time the cat has left as well as
well as emotional and financial hell for youself.
Lorrie
On 09-08, Don wrote:
Hello.
Our boy Oliver, has
with your
kitten.
Lorrie in WV
On 09-06, Maryam Ulomi wrote:
Hello,
There is a cat who comes by my house and I have been feeding her for over
three years. I have tried to trap her previously but she stops eating as
soon as the trap appears so I gave up assuming she had been checked and
spayed
or understand what low quality food
it is, and they buy it because their vets sell it. I'm sure vets get
a kick back from the company.
Lorrie
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Heather, you and your bf are wonderful to care for so many cats. I
thought I had a lot to care for, but you're amazing. Thank you for
caring.
Lorrie
On 08-27, Heather wrote:
Hi,
My bf and I feed around 140 cats in 20+ spots (colonies) each day.
Unless they are adoptable and you
Please do NOT involve animal control. Shelters everywhere are FULL and
these cats will be euthanized. Are any of them socialized (tame) or are
they feral? Ferals are not adoptable. I've been feeding and TNR a colony of
feral cats for 10 years now. They count on you for food. Where are you
What a great story about Buttercup. I love a story with a happy ending!
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Some vets say to euthanize FelV cats right away, but most vets now realize
many positive cats revert to negative in time. My 4 positive kittens look
so healthy, and they're playful and adorable. I will give them the happiest
life I can and hope they revert to negative when I retest.
Lorrie
Melissa,
I'd certainly have him retested. He may well be free of FelV by now.
Many cats throw off the virus as they have strong immune systems.
Lorrie
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playful right now, and I can't bear to put them to sleep. Still I know
some of them may not make it SO SAD.
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the Lysine tho, and let you know.
Lorrie
On 07-24, Kathryn Hargreaves wrote:
Lorrie,
Does it work to give your Herpes kitty more Lysine per day? It did with
mine.
Kathy
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as antibiotics have been tried, but will not work
on viral infections only bacterial infections.
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this is very rare.
Lorrie
Beth wrote:
I've always seen FIV kittens turn negative after being taken away from mom
for a period. I've never seen a kitten positive on an FeLV test turn
negative later. I have seen litters where 1 might consistently test
negative on an Elisa the others are positive
interesting to me.
Bring up a subject of interest to you, or ask a question, and watch for all
the replies you'll get.
Lorrie
On 07-18, Claire Davidson wrote:
Hi,
I'm a new member of FeLVTalk at felineleukemia.org and have yet to figure
out how to view daily discussions. I'm used to joining
I'm with you on that one. They rapists, murderers and child molesters are
let off in short order to go back and do their dirty work again, while the
poor guy who grows a bit of grass is in the slammer forever.
On 07-07, GRAS wrote:
Unfortunately, technically, the Manson creep didn't do the
that is allowed to be born and a home found,
a rescue kitten will die because homes are so scarce.
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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 5:35 PM
To: felvtalk
LEE, I LOVE YOU... I COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF.
What a sick, miserable society we live in, and yes, I take Zoloft.
It's the only thing that keeps me going.
Lorrie
On 06-30, Lee Evans wrote:
After years in rescue, I'm so cynical that I truly believe if you did all
Oh how very true. I wish the people who don't neuter and spay could all see
this!!! I get so sick of people who let their cats have kittens so they can
witness the miracle of life! How I wish their kids could watch all those
precious cats and kittens being killed!!
Lorrie
On 06-29
I had two rescued litters of 11 FelV positive kittens. All of them died
within 2 years except for one. He has been tested several times and he
remains negative. He is now 4 years old and very healthy.
Lorrie
On 06-27, Beth wrote:
Most of mine that were born with it lived about 1 1/2
.
Lorrie
On 05-31, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
I got some information on a screen that the manufacturer says is
cat, dog and raccoon proof. Also no seeums proof. It cost $108.00
per roll (which is a large roll). I will try to dig out the info
and send it to you. I was planning on fencing in my
on a metal pole. The cats can jump 4 or 5 feet high but not
the raccoons. I'd be concerned about this however, because old cats
or an injured feral couldn't jump that high either. So early morning
feeding has worked best for me.
Lorrie
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for them and give them companionship. I
am in eastern WV, which is too far away for you, but there are many
FelV shelters available, as well as people with no other cats who
would love to have this female as a pet.
Lorrie
On 05-28, Charles Adams wrote:
Hello Kelley,
Thanks for your kind
Absolutely Beth Breeders will get a lecture from me too.
Lorrie
On 05-28, Beth wrote:
I'm not about to apologize for having opinions voicing them. You
breed animals you are going to get a lecture from me.
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On 05-28, Ben Williams wrote:
I have to believe that the message from Charles was someone's
idea of a joke. That email hit just about every red flag for the
kind of behavior that no one on this list would condone.
It may be comforting to think it's all a joke, but this is
exactly the way
life as it should be lived. As for
the FelV female Bengal. Please have her spayed and let her be adopted
by someone who will be happy to have her as a pet and won't give a
damn about making money from her!!
Lorrie
On 05-27, Lee Evans wrote:
This is for Charles Adams: Unfortunately, you
separately. Nutramin and COQ10 sound good,
and I will check on them to see if he'll take them, but he has little
appetite now and is just wasting away. Otherwise I will not put him
thru heroic measures, injections, etc.
Thank you for your help.
Lorrie
On 05-22, GRAS wrote:
Lorrie - Is he getting
that.
_
Original message From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:05 AM
I do rescue work and I have several FelV cats, and one of my
favorites is a long haired black male who tested
and crashed.
Have any of you had FelV cats who just wasted away, and do you think
I should just let him die at home where he feels comfortable and
safe? I hate to have him euthanized at this point as it is so
frightening for cats to go to the vet. I would appreciate your
thoughts.
Lorrie
On 05
Unfortunately this adorable FelV pos. kitten died a week or so later.
She was only 6 month old and had seemed fine up to the leg problem.
This loss of the back legs seems to be fairly common with FelV cats
and kittens.
On 04-28, Maureen Olvey wrote:
I don't like the sound of this. What
I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like
this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly
in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs.
Lorrie
On 04-28, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:
I have a FeLV kitten that I'm fostering
Apparently Lowes is blocking our e-mails to dbar...@loweshotels.com
I got this number from Google. (888) 430-4999 Universal Orlando
Resorts. This number had a comment next to it about the awful
plight of the feral cats there.
Lowes Hotels claims to be pet friendly, but they are
- Forwarded message from Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com -
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 15:56:20 -0400
From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: feralfriendsonl...@yahoogroups.com, felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: CHB
Subject: : Re: Cruelty to cats
Reply-To: felineres...@frontier.com
my posts short and I trim former messages. I wrote back right
to the owner right away, and still don't know if I'm being dumped!
Did anyone else get this ???
Lorrie
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Thank you for your post, Natalie. I will never understand why so many
people feel guilty about adopting another cat when they lose one. It
is not a betrayal it's a tribute to the cat who died to honor it's
death by helping another cat. Your words were perfect.
Lorrie
On 03-11, GRAS wrote
in NJ, charge $15,000, which is very
high but more realistic, as vet bills over the years can easily cost
that much. I think there must be some good sanctuaries somewhere in
between these prices.
Lorrie
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I have several FelV cats, and they have lived long healthy lives.
I do not think an asymtomatic FelV cat should be automatically
euthanized. There are sanctuaries that take FelV cats, or they
should be isolated from other cats, but not killed.
Lorrie
On 03-08, Beth wrote:
I agree, FeLV
Heather, this is a huge undertaking for you and your bf. What a
wonderful committment. Thank you.
Lorrie
On 03-07, Heather wrote:
My bf and I take care of over 140 feral/homeless cats on the streets
everyday (in over 20 different spots), 365 days a year for several
years now
On 02-28, Lynda Wilson wrote:
Any update? I'm thinking of your kitty and hope everything is
better. Please let us know, thanks!
I hope we hear from this person. When we don't hear how the cat is
doing we imagine the worst.such as the cat was not taken to
the vet and just died
Grant
got in over his head, but didn't mean to abuse the cats.
AS for jury duty I'd say I had to listen to the details
before making a decision. That way I'd be chosen for the jury.
Then when the jury voted I'd give this cruel SOB what he deserves.
Lorrie
It appears I was certainly wrong to assume Craig Grant just couldn't
turn down a homeless cat. It was money for his own enjoyment that he
couldn't turn down! This is really shocking.
Lorrie
On 03-02, C PQ wrote:
FYI: Here's another perspective on the situation:
From: X [name removed
Please rush him to the vet immediately.
On 02-27, Rashel Mereness wrote:
Hi - I'm new and have been reading the threads but I don't seen
anything that addresses my situation. We have an 8 month old kitty
that tested positive for FIV (or was it FELV?) at a young age, and we
to take money from people and give them
false hope.
Lorrie (aka older and wiser)
On 02-19, Ruth Parsons wrote:
Hi
I appreciate all the info on FELV this group provides. I research
treatments suggested and look for a variety of reliable sources to
help me care for our
On 02-06, Lynda Wilson wrote:
I've never heard of a PSA. Is this new?
L
I thought PSA was a prostate check for men.
Lorrie
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it in remission for years with no symptoms, and others
are not so lucky. Give your ginger kitty good food, no stress,
and lots of love, and if she should show signs of illness get her
to the vet right away. Many FelV related illnesses can be treated.
Please keep us posted on her.
Lorrie
From
Please get your kitty to the vet right away. If he is hiding and not
eating he is most likely dying. Please don't let him suffer and die
slowly and in pain. My heart goes out to you, but if your vet says
there is nothing more to do euthanasia is a gentle, peaceful death.
I think my kitty is
I'm so sorry, Sherry, I don't know how you can deal with all
these losses. How many FelV cats are there now? RIP Firefly,
and what a delightful name.
Lorrie
On 01-20, Sherry DeHaan wrote:
Through tears I am writing this,Sids has lost another wonderful girl
todayFirefly got her
you had them tested to see if they are positive
or negative?
Lorrie
On 01-09, Victory_Shout wrote:
I am Tina. I live in Pa. We had gotten a litter of four female kittens
from a family whos add we responded to in the newspaper six months
ago. Their kittens needed a home and my
Welcome to the group, MaryAnn. You'll find a lot of knowledgable
people here. Tell us about your cats.
Lorrie in WV
On 01-09, MaryAnn Riggs wrote:
Hi all.
My name is MaryAnn Riggs in southeastern Wisconsin. I've been reading
comments for sometime, just haven't introduced myself
.
Lorrie and 25 cats in WV
On 01-07, Sherry DeHaan wrote:
Well we made it a whole 7 days into the new year before losing one of
our wonderful Sids kids. Myles was a big gentle sweet lovin black and
white boy.He has such a cute white chin.He will be missed at the
sanctuary by us all
On 01-05, Marcia Baronda wrote:
That infuriates me. Such a waste of life! Sometimes I think the
wildlife should be armed!
I agree with you on that one. I detest hunters!
Lorrie
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Where we live, in the mountains of WV, they drop bait from low flying
aircraft. This is oral rabies vaccine for the raccoons to eat. They
haven't done this for several years, but did at one time. I have no
idea how sucessful it was.
Lorrie
On 01-05, MaiMaiPG wrote:
According to Fish
I'm sure the vets make more money by first giving a 1 year vac.
and then giving the 3 year vac a year later.
On 01-04, Maureen Olvey wrote:
I think I might have mentioned it to you guys before but in case I
didn't, studies have shown that the normal 1 year rabies vaccinations
I really doubt it was neutering that caused his death. Anemia is
one of the complications of FelV.
On 01-02, Lynda Wilson wrote:
Sorry to say, but I had my kitten neutered at 6 mos. of age (at the
time we did not know he was positive because he actually tested neg
for it
I rescue cats and I've have had many FelV positive cats neutered or
spayed. If they are healthy at the time they come thru the surgery
just fine regardless of their FelV status.
Lorrie
On 01-02, dppl dppl wrote: I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in
October who tested positive. He seems
seem to have much resistance to FelV, as
their immune systems are not fully developed. Losing six of your cats
in one year is rough. I'm sorry you had to go through that, but
thank you for what you do for cats. Being a rescuer is hard and heart
breaking at times.
Lorrie
On 12-28, Amanda
and it's important to catch any illnesses
right away and treat them. This is what I do, but I've never used
heroic measure such as blood transfusions or Interferon. However many
of the others in this group have.
Lorrie
On 12-29, Holly Shelton wrote:
Hi there. I just wanted to take a moment
.
Lorrie
On 12-14, James G Wilson wrote:
Hey all,
Sorry for the extra mail. Just testing to be sure the list is
working as it should. Haven't seen any traffic for a few
days now. Hope all is well with everyone. Best wishes.
James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net
because this is the place they feel safe. Always put your
cats in carriers or in your car outside your home. With 13 cats this
would have been terribly difficult for your parents, but if there are
only one or two cats this can be done.
Lorrie
On 12-02, GRAS wrote:
In 1964, my parents' house
.
Lorrie
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For months I've been wondering what a Sids kid was. I knew they were
FelV cats, but did not know what SIDS meant. I'm glad someone else
asked first.. I thought I should know :-) Lorrie
On 11-03, Marcia Baronda wrote:
That's what I was wondering(-:
On Nov 3, 2011, at 7:40 PM
with two drops of mineral oil in each ear. She says this works even
better than Acarexx. A vet tech gave her this info.
On 10-19, Cindy McHugh wrote:
Lorrie,
I'm late chiming in here. I can't help you with Acarexx, but look into
FishMox for the clavamox. It can be ordered without
cats ever, and we forgive
him for his aggressiveness because who knows what he went thru before
we got him. He is a huge big white long haired cat and we named him
YETI for the abominable snowman, or actually the abomimable snow cat!
Lorrie
On 10-18, Natalie wrote:
I am so very sorry
On 10-16, Susan Hoffman wrote: What are you trying to order? I just
did a test order for zithromax at http://www.1drugstore-online.com/
and no prescription required. I've ordered other things from them
in the past month and still no prescription.
I was trying to order Clavamox and Acarexx.
Does anyone know where I can buy RX vet meds overseas without an RX?
With 25 cats in my shelter and at home I need to keep some basic
things at home such as Acarexx for earmites, Clavamox (antibiotic)
etc.
Thanks,
Lorrie
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Have you ordered recently? They seem to require an RX now,
and so do all the other overseas pharmacies I used for years.
On 10-16, Susan Hoffman wrote:
www.1drugstore-online.com
I've been using them for years.
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I hit reply but then I get rid of all the extra stuff at the bottom
so it isn't send back time after time making the message too long.
Lorrie
On 09-28, Lynda Wilson wrote:
Yes, that is right. The same has happened to me and the only way I found
around it when it glitches out like that is dont
Yup, flimzy screens and screaming brats are not good for cats either.
It's hard to find a perfect home, and I guess all of you believe, as
I do, that no one can take care of cats as well as we can :-) This
is probably why most of us have so many cats.
Lorrie
Susan Hoffman susan_hoff
. This was the only good thing about enduring smoke from
birth to age 20 when I finally left home.
Lorrie
On 09-21, Natalie wrote:
Iwould too, if they aren't chain smokers and smoke
outsidehowever, I've known too many cats with lymphoma from homes
of smokers...fact
Okay here James...
On 09-18, James G Wilson wrote:
Hello all,
We seem to have had another glitch with the list. I hope
that I have it fixed now. So, I am just sending out a test
message to be sure. I hope everyone is doing well. Best
wishes.
James G. Wilson -
Right, factory farming is extremely cruel. Animals seem to be treated
horribly regardless of whether they are wild animals, domestic
animals or even pets in some cases. What gets me is people who have
pampered pets but care absolutely nothing about how other animals are
treated...
On 09-16,
On 09-14, Bonnie Hogue wrote: This reminds me of a cartoon I cut out
and put on my 'fridge. The planet Earth is sitting on a doctor's
exam table. The doctor stands nearby looking at the chart and
saying, The bad news is you have advanced case humans...The good
news is they've about run their
When we lived on our 75 acre farm hunters would park on our road and
walk back into the woods. We could hear them, but never find them,
so because they were parked where I could get to their cars I began
letting the air out of their tires!
Lorrie
That would be wonderful to see. I think big cats are fantastic and
beautiful. We don't have any around here, as they were all killed
years ago, but many deer come up to our house for treats. BTW, where
do you live that you still have cougars around?
On 09-14, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
My
On 09-15, Natalie wrote:
There's something wrong, seriously wrong with people who can't wait to
kill an animal. When we see a gorgeous, or ANY animal, we admire
them, enjoy looking at them, and always wish that we had a camera
handy - for those people it's the exact
. We are the most cruel
beings on the face of the earth!
Lorrie
On 09-13, Natalie wrote: So do Canada geese (mate for life). We
live on a pond, and they spend a lot of time here. We feed
them, so they don't go on neighbors' properties, bothering them.
We actually recognize them
keeps up with her group. She's an amazing,
brave little doe and we call her Tripod.
Lorrie
Tripod and she
in
our yard
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On 09-12, Natalie wrote:
Welcome to my kinda club!
Natalie, you and I see eye to eye about everything. You're my
kinda person.
Lorrie
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