Hi Dark,
I think maybe you missed my point in mentioning David and Jeremy.
My point was that they have an amazing output in both quantity and
quality with tools that Thomas keeps putting down with his various
comments, and they certainly don't fall under the category of lazy, nor
are they
Hello Che.
Well Che, one thing I will say is that I have noticed Thomas does have a
tendency to often use more words than he means, and perhaps not necessarily
the most tactful ones, eg, lazy instead of time saving.
Equally, as someone who has been a moderator for a long time, i'd myself be
I have to agree with you Che. When someone is told something over and over, by
different people, it's harder to believe excuses. I don't want to get in to
any type of argument, myself, but I do feel like I should support Che, when I
happen to agree with him. I see the same thing he is
I actually can't remember exactly what I fixed in this version. I've done a
few things to help make the server more stable, but half of those updates won't
happen until the next update. I guess the best way to find out, is to try it.
Please let me know if you do notice that bug again though.
Hi Che,
My apologies. I sincerely am not trying to be obtuse, but have always
strived to help others the best I can to the best of my abilities. My
intentions were never to confuse, intimidate, or put down others for
choosing something else. I merely wanted to state the facts as I
understand
Pissed off? Isn't that swearing? For which you have come down on people hard
in the passed? What a fine example you're setting.
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Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: 20 July 2011 09:25
To: Gamers Discussion
Hi,
My Gods, man! You are really beginning to piss me off to no end. I
never said Jeremey or anyone else was ignorant of their alternatives,
nor did I mean to say they were lazy in the negative sense.On the
contrary as you pointed out Jeremy, GMA, and Jim Kitchen have me beat
when it comes to the
Bye Thomas, it's been amusing.
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: 20 July 2011 10:57
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming elitists was: Re: Jeremy's incredible
programming
Hi everyone,
I just wanted to say effective immediately I am leaving the Audyssy
list, am resigning as comoderator for reasons of my last post, and
will likely be closing USA Games for a few months. I've reached a
point where I can not exist on this list or any other list with
certain members of
Hi list and Thomas, in case you are still there.
I normally don't take part in such discussions, because they don't
really concern me and I don't know enough about the technical side of
programming to add something constructive to the discussion.
But this is a point for me where I have to
Well said.
Remember the whole piracy issue? When Thomas decided to post a request for a
graphic novel on the list and then pleaded it was a mistake? Well he should
have gone then really because he was quite happy to threaten moderation or
banning on people for posting pirated content. So he
Hi,
I have put a new file up on my site.
File name winah.exe File size 9.7 meg
Gonk the ape has kidnapped Marge. You as Awesome Homer try to rescue her.
The winah.exe file can be found on my free windows sapi5 text to speech games
page.
BFN
Jim
Don't worry head. The computer will do
I can't honestly say I wouldn't have reacted the same way. If I'd taken on
projects someone else had abandoned only to have people constantly
harrassing me about when the games were coming out or about the methods and
programming language I used I'd probably have snapped long before Thomas
Some blind people and their oppinions forced James Nord to leave this
list, and now, after a few years Thomas Ward had to do the same.
Many people here should think of their behaviour and should leave this
list instead of Thomas.
I get many mails from this list per day and in about 80 percent i
I agree wit you. Thomas was one of the few people whose messages to the list
I actually read with any consistency because I was always interested in what
he had to say. If I'm angry at anyone it's those people who've been
harrassing and criticizing him for every little thing just because MOTA
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Hi Thomas.
I think this is really sad that you feel you have to do this. I haven't
been on this list for long but I find that you are kind and helpful and you
put a lot of hard work in to your games. I think you will be sadly missed.
Thanks for all your hard work.
Amanda
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hi jin.
wow, i never thought you would release a game of this type,it's so
addicting man, i'm trying to jump these bloody barrels on level 1, but
in the end it becomes so hard, i even try not to run, i have a question
though:
when i complete a level,and select start a game i'll be able to choose
Hey folks,
I am afraid and sad to say that Thomas has carried out the act specified in his
email. His unsubscription notification came into me roughly an hour and half
ago.
I think it is very sad that it has come to this and I would hope that the
offending members will learn by the consequences
Two true Thomas you will be missed.
Lisa Hayes
www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes
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From: Amanda Burt amanda.bu...@btinternet.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I'm Leaving the List
Hi all,
I totally agree! I think Thomas is a great person and will always be missed
because of his ability to give advice and help to those who needs. I have to
admit that I myself am still waiting for those new games of USA Games, but that
I don't ask every day - like some people here do -
Damien can you pass on our best wishes, well those of us who care that is.
Thomas did a job and a half here and was even and fare minded in his
decisions. I can't program games, but I value him and his ilk who can and
for him to go because of some selfish sucks in this community is shameful
Lol don't be silly, nobody can destroy a marriage or relationship unless the
2 people involved allow it to be. I think Thomas only said that to try and
lay the guilt trip on people. Which isn't going to work regardless.
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Darren,
This is no laughing matter. He is being pressured and harassed on and off
lists, which can make anybody break under the strain. If one person breaks,
it can affect their mood, and their mood can affect those around them. It
then becomes a tense atmosphere until the pressured person
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Yes an beforehand he decided to pull people up for doing things that he
himself was doing, sorry that's just double standards and I have no
tolerance for that.
After all said and done like I have said before we have choices.
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org
Well, i agree whith what you have said, as I hav said before I like Tomos
and think he is a reasonable guy whome i like a lot and I hope his marriage
is not under threat.
Amanda
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Darren,
True, but certain conditions affect our choices, either for better or worse.
We aren't just a computer who does everything from human programmed
conditions or random number generators. We have emotions, we have
commitments, and we have families. If our commitments get compromised by
Yes, from the harassment point of view I agree, but that's about the only
point which I do agree.
No we aren't machines, we are all different. We all have our ailments issues
and what not. Myself I suffer from depression and I have done for many
years. But it's only been within the last 2 years
Hi I just downloaded awesome homer and it sounds cool I'm trying to play the
first level and I'm not sure what is happening and what sounds to listen for I
know to jump the barols. Can someone help.
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under the birds. Picking up a chainsaw gives you invincibility for a short
time, but you should be careful as it can expire without warning.
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Hi all,
I've been playing Awesome Homer and have some thoughts and suggestions.
First, Please add a way to skip the level intros when restarting a level. I
would also like to see the results of the current level read out when you
die, rather than the whole log file. Third, a learn game sounds
Hi all.
I cannot believe what has gone on here, and really how blinded people have been.
Many of the responses in the last couple of hours since Thomas left I
just can't understand. I think people need to reread what has
happened.
The person I feel most sorry for is Che. From what I understand and
Hi I think their should be a learn game sounds option and I keep dying in
level 1 by the barols or the birds.
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From: Karl Belanger karl.belan...@comcast.net
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 6:48 AM
Subject: [Audyssey]
Hi Matheus,
Thank you very much. I also have found at least level 1 to be addictive.
Yes, if you get knocked out on a level, you will start back at the beginning of
that level, not back on level 1.
I know, it doesn't seem correct for the chainsaw to still cut through the
barrels even when
Hi Bogdan,
I myself only make it through level 1 maybe 1 out of 25 tries. I did not want
to make it too easy. But one thing that helps is to start jumping after
cutting through about 8 barrels. That way you stand a better chance of not
being knocked out by the next barrel. But it also
Hi Greg,
Yes, as Karl said, you just run and jump the barrels. Here are the
instructions and hints for level 1.
Gonk the ape has kidnapped Marge. You as Awesome Homer try to rescue her.
Level 1 keys
Left arrow key = run left
Right arrow key = run right
Left control key = jump
Left shift
Hi Karl,
Thank you very much for your comments and suggestions. I will work on adding
better instructions etc.
Spoiler space.
Yes Karl you are jumping from airplane to airplane so you need to wait until
they are in line with each other.
Level 6 is just a very simple maze with some
Hi Karl,
Thank you very much for your comments and suggestions. I will work on adding
better instructions etc.
Spoiler space.
Yes Karl you are jumping from airplane to airplane so you need to wait until
they are in line with each other.
Level 6 is just a very simple maze with some
Hello,
I've moderated mailing lists in the past and one thing that's in my
personal opinion a good thing to have is a thick skin. As a moderator
in my opinion you have to accept an opinion or position that is
different from yours even though you may whole heartedly disagree with
it and never want
Hi,
first I have to say that this game really sounds great and I like it
that you made such a jump and run sort of game.
My problem is, that I can't even begin to play level 1 properly, I
always die from falling down a pit which I can't jump for some reason. I
don't even have a clue how I
Hi all.
Firstly, a lot of this nonsense could have been avoided with a little
common sense and a lot less self important attitudes. Yes, Thomas did
not always express himself diplomaticly enough, but also some people
needled him repeatedly until he snapped. Saying this, an opinion is just
Well there's no need to worry about that now, Thomas has gone which has been
a long time coming in my opinion especially over the graphic novel piracy
issue, so another moderator will be chosen and brought in to replace him.
Life goes on things will return to normal pretty soon
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Hi Sarah. you have to run to the left you are running right and if you run
to the left you will avoid the pit but not the barrowls. hth from Mich.
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:56 AM
Hi,
IT's funny. If we all took that same viewpoit, we would be in quite a fix.
I'm sure judges have sentenced people for forgery, yet I am sure they have
lied. So, based on your way of thinking, these people had no right to
sentence people for this kind of offense. After all the work the guy has
I think after going back through some if not all of the messages in this
thread that it's safe to say that everyone who contributed to this hullicost
type conflegration was rite and everyone was wrong. Certainly each one of
you is entitled to his/her own beliefs however if you have a problem
Hey Willem,
I've also had to defend my stance on Python with Tom, and while I
understand the need for diplomacy, I think there's also something to
be said for mis-information. My Python response became necessary
because Tom was telling aspiring programmers that Python was not a
viable language. So
Hi Jim,
Lol...another Simpsons-themed game! I'll be sure to have a look at this one.
Best Regards,
Hayden
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Jim Kitchen
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 5:52 AM
To: Gamers@audyssey.org
Richard, I am completely behind you on this! Well written, and I was
personally surprised when I started seeing the messages changing in Thomas'
favor on this. Whether intentional, or not, the extra drama put into his last
post seems to have blinded people from what was really going on. If
Ryan, I remember that time. If you recall I was one of those who
backed you up too.
In the end, Thomas admitted he was biest toward python and no insults
and name calling was required, just reason and statement of fact.
On 7/20/11, Ryan Strunk ryan.str...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Willem,
I've also
Two more questions, how does the scoring work on level 4 as my score is
always low, and how do you avoid the bananas reliably that are thrown by the
last two cars in level 6?
Karl
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Jim
Hi Dark,
You hae a good point. Most monsters come down to just pounding the space
bar, and hoping for the best. The few that don't require you to have a good
position even to shoot, then once that's the case you might want to have the
correct weapon set if you do not want ot get fried.
:)
Best
For the most part I agree with you Jeremy, but what did you acumplish
by saying something like I think thomas feels left out and needs more
attention in the thread of castaways you refer to. It could not
convince him or change anything he already said.
I hope we can get back to gaming now.
On
Hi,
While I had, and still do, have respect for the guy, I think that has been
his biggest problem. While I have only become something of a programmer over
the last few months, and that only with BGT, I can say that I appreciate the
technical standpoint Thomas is coming from here. But he does tend
Willem, I agree, I shouldn't have had that last sentence in my post. I
actually talked to a few people off-list, where I mentioned I shouldn't have
put it, because it could easily be taken as insulting. No one seemed to have
taken it in an offensive way on the list, otherwise I would have
I know it, and I still appreciate you for it. What happened today was
rather unfortunate, but I do think a lot of the onus is on Tom's
initial statements and his reaction to others' responses.
On 7/20/11, Willem Venter dwill...@gmail.com wrote:
Ryan, I remember that time. If you recall I was one
Hi,
I'm considering purchasing an iPod Touch at some point. I've heard demos of
games like Aurifi and Papa Sangre, which sound very good, but am curious as
to how much space they take up. Basically, I'm trying to decide what version
of the iPod Touch to go for, the 8GB version or maybe the
Whoa whoa, I was and still am one of those who support Thomas. Nor was I the
one calling him a hypocrite.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011
Hi Jeremy.
Thanks for agreeing with me lol, I did think my email might jst get
shot down by everyone and that I would be attacked for writing it.
People seem to have totally forgotten or never noticed the way Thomas
preaches to other developers, and it is always him who seems to bring
up or start
For the price difference, I'd recommend the 32 gb one. If you plan on
putting a decent amount of music or audiobooks on the device, you will
definitely need the space. Games like Papa Sangre take a few hundred megs.
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org
I don't think the 8 GB iPod Touch has voiceover support. I'd go for a 32 GB.
~Ann
HeyTell: tate...@gmail.com
Skype: tate886
Google Voice: 1-872-222-8799
http://www.fanfiction.net/~mauryn
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
The 8 gb third generation iPod touch did not have VoiceOver, but the 8 gb
fourth generation does.
Karl
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 12:19 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re:
Hey Richard, I'll give you a tip for castaways, get better Lol so says
the guy who still hasn't worked out how to beet it yet! Although I can kill
goblins lol so is that worthy of recognition! Rofl!
But no I think your message was reasonably written.
If Thomas's marriage is in jeopardy then
No, I called Thomas a hypocrite and I stick by those same reasons when I
first said it back in the graphic novalnovel flaming
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Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
Sent: 20 July 2011 17:10
To: Gamers
i for one am sorry you are leaving the list but i wish you nothing but the
best in what ever you do
.
lee
In a message dated 7/20/2011 6:10:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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I just wanted to say effective immediately I am leaving the Audyssy
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please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Jeremy,
Well I think the thing people do when they decide to take sides i think it's
a 2 fold thing.
Firstly you get the people who just spoil for a fight thus they'll take a
side and why not in their opinion.
Secondly I think some people just want him to continue developing what ever
it is
Hi Richard and all,
OK, I will publicly apologise and stand corrected about Thomas's reaction to
all of this. When I wrote my email this morning I was in the middle of
broadcasting and Thomas's final resignation and unsubscription notification
caught me before the rest did, and I wrote and
hi jin!
i'm advancing a little more in the first level of the game,my best score
is 15. however, i have a suggestion to make:
after you get the chain-saw and start destroying the barrels,at some
time it will be disabled, but there's no way for you to know when it
will happen.
so it could
Hi Dave,
I believe there is a content filter on Mailman and I have absolutely no
objections in logging in the administrative pannel and taking a look. Since
the only moderator now is me, there are several changes that I wish to
enforce on list and after the message I have read I shall
I'm not taking sides in this. I was surprised at everyone's Thomas's
behavior, especially as he was a moderator. It's a shame people are not
able to take criticism in the manner it was meant. I think you're all
lovely people and I hope we can come back from this. I do hope that Thomas
does
Thomas won't come back, he's been publically shamed on list, most notably by
his own hand. The evidence is there for all to see although this goes way
back further than today if people care to look. We won't see him again. It's
not really a loss. Sooner or later I new he'd shoot himself in the
Hi list,
And please excuse me for emailing from my partner's account. She used to
check her emails through my computer so I get messages in duplication and
sometimes I am not sure which one I am replying to. I shall delete that
account off my machine now so as not to confuse me in the future.
Lol I thought it was you but I couldn't quite be sure there lol!
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Damien C. Pendleton
Sent: 20 July 2011 18:43
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] This is all crazy
Hi
Hello Everyone.
my intention in trying to find out about programming languages was just that,
to gain information.
I never intended my questions to lead to this amount of strong emotions from so
many people, or this sort of highly personal, unpleasant arguement..
I am only sorry i wasn't
Hi dark,
From what I could see I don't think this was anything to do with yourself.
The thing is Thomas decided to get all high and mighty and take things way
beyond what they should have been. All you did from what I can see is ask a
question. Asking questions isn't a crime, Thomas took it as a
Don't worry Richard, I intend to stick around. I have been badgered by Thomas,
but fortunately I was never openly sworn at, and personally attacked like he
did to Che! I personally believe that, no matter what happened before it,
Thomas' post to Che was stepping way over the line. If he
I agree with this. You have the right to stand your ground and just because
someone is a moderator that doesn't give them the right to think they are
beyond recriminations.
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Behalf Of Jeremy
Hello Dark,
Today we're talking casualties. We've lost one developer, Thomas. I've
seen messages where members have expressed concerns as to whether this
situation will also cause Che and Jeremy and maybe others to give up.
Let me say that I hope they do not, I enjoy playing their games,
either
Hello.
I know that I can cycle through all my people in Castaways with D and F and
that I can cycle through jobs with E and R.
However, once I hit E and R, I'm taken to the list of people who perform a
specific job.
This is good in some cases.
I also like to be able to move through the entire
Hello,
I am relieved that Jeremy is not leaving. I hope Che stays as well,
we're a small community relatively speaking, and I hope we can move on
from this day.
Dave
On 7/20/11, darren harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote:
I agree with this. You have the right to stand your ground and
Hi,
Just use e and r. it will cycle through the job types. Then you will be able
to see who is in that specific type of job.
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Christina
Sent: 20 July 2011 19:15
To: Gamers Discussion
Dark, I think you're misplacing blame on yourself. I was following all of the
posts during all of this mess, and I never thought your questions or comments
played any part in how things turned out. I Still! don't! To me, it was
pretty clear that you were asking legitimate questions, and when
Hi Jeremy
I totally agree again.
The key difference for me is that Che was using slightly strong language to
have a go at Thomas's words in previous posts whereas thomas was in extreme
language attacking Che personally.
Cheers
Richard
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On 20 Jul 2011, at 19:06, Jeremy
Also, while using E and R, you come to a group called Total. When in total,
every person is available when you use D and F to cycle through them.
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I couldn't agree more. I love your contributions to the list.
Amanda
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Hello
In awesome Homer, how do I get to start game? The arrows won't work.
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Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 2:33 PM
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Subject: [Audyssey] starting asom
In awesome Homer,
Hi Dark.
Hopefully you are still reading long enough to see these replies from people.
I am to be totally honest with you, slightly alarmed by your message.
You are, in my opinion, a key member of this list and a great
moderator of the Entombed discussion list. I can't say anything about
First of all, to Dark, you had no hand in this whatever man, and
frankly I think you would make a great co moderator of this list, much
the opposite of your feelings about your posts.
Secondly, I am genuinely sad that Thomas has decided to leave the list.
My messages to him were more
Think you might need to turn off something like jaws screen reader etc.
since it's intercepting the keystrokes, but anyway...HTH
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
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I think hearing back from Che was what we all needed, in order to move past
this. Che, I'm glad to hear how calm and understanding you're being. Che and
I aren't going anywhere, and Dark has undoubtedly been showered with mail
telling him he was without guilt in the matter, so I guess it is
Oh, cool.
I missed the Total thing.
Thank you.
And thank you for patiently answering all of my questions.
I just beat the game for the third... Or maybe the fourth time.
Christina
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Have you given any thought to making hotkeys for changing job types
Jeremy?
later in the game, when there are a lot of jobs to choose from, it
seems like I spend most my time hitting A or S.
keys such as control shift 1 through 0 are a possibility, though that
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