Hi Tom.
I'm afraid I personally disagree with ben on this, I'm quite happy with the
lw parza and indeed would create missions myself if I were better at the
game.
The 92 extra missions people like Raul have made (and I believe there are
probably more), show that the system is workable at lea
Hi ben,
I'm afraid not. The Parser for Lone Wolf is about as simple as it gets
when it comes to creating new levels for a game. If I were going to
add any kind of third-party mission creator for the Star Trek game it
would be far superior to use a scripting language like Angelscript,
VBScript, Jav
Yes! Please develop that one! I'd love and buy it.
Tim
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From: "Ben"
To: "'Gamers Discussion list'"
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Startrek tng trivia error
Yes, you could do that, and make the
Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Startrek tng trivia error
Hi Dark,
Yeah, I agree. Like I said earlier I was actually in the processs of
developing such a Star Trek game when I got side tracked with
Montezuma's Revenge, Mysteries of the Ancients, and raceway, etc.
Basically, the game
Well that would really rock.
Ofcause it means you need to be networked together, I guess it could
be online but offline would also rock.
At 09:21 a.m. 12/07/2011, you wrote:
Hi,
Not sure if this has been touched on yet, as I'm a new joiner of this thread.
One thing that would be interesting t
Hi Dark,
Oh, I see. Yeah, I vaguely remember the epasode you are talking about.
Its a case of I know the epasode in question, but its been so long
since I've seen it that it wouldn't have come to mind immediately.
Cheers!
On 7/11/11, dark wrote:
> Hi Tom.
>
> I know skin of evil, but actually
Hi tom.
Ecleston is actually a really good example I think of modern sterriotypes in
films gone so far.
modern heroes need anxt so he had that. Modern heroes need to be gruff so he
had that, Modern heroes need to not care so he had that. Modern heroes need
to not stand out in what they where
need to create quite a number of missions if he needed
single and multiplayer ones.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
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From: "David Mehler"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Startrek tng trivia error
Hi Tom.
I did actually think there was a similar episode to my mission Idea when I
thought of it, and I freely admit the idea wasn't too original, I was just
attempting to show that a trek game needed some complexity, which is also
interestingly enough another reason why I'd be more in favour
Hi Tom.
I know skin of evil, but actually that was not the episode I was thinking
of, afterall you could argue that the original series did the same thing in
wrath of kaan where spok dies.
I was actually thinking of an episode in I believe the 2nd or 3rd series
when warf takes an away missio
Hi Dave,
Indeed I could see some value in that. Especially, if there was some
kind of fleet engagement. Multiple ships could join the server and the
Federatiojn could fight of x number of enemy ships or help each other
out complete a mission. This I.E. is something I'd like to see in a
game like L
Hi Dark,
Oh, Eclston was terrible. Never could stand him. I watched a few of
the shows, didn't like them, and stopped watching Dr. Who until they
changed actors.
Cheers!
On 7/11/11, dark wrote:
> Hi Tom.
>
> Well I have three favourite doctors really. john pertwee, the sardonic,
> elegant and s
Hi,
Not sure if this has been touched on yet, as I'm a new joiner of this thread.
One thing that would be interesting to see would be and this goes with
Tom's idea of two ships, network play. You and a friend each command a
ship and help each other to complete a mission, so for example the
stoppi
Hi Dark,
yeah. I know what you mean. I was just giving you an example of how an
editor might work.
Obviously, you might team up with the Klingon ship, Quvaht, to hunt
down ships aligned with the House of Duras who are trying to over
throw the Klingon government. Obviously, in a case like that you
Hi Dark,
The TNG epasode you are talking about is called Skin of Evil. Tasha
Yar, Enterprise's head of security, gets killed trying to rescue
Dianna Troi, and at the end of the show Warf is promoted in her spot.
Which is definitely what made that series more realistic. Characters
could die, and di
I know I barely post on here now, but dark, well done. Good idea.
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Behalf Of dark
Sent: 11 July 2011 21:10
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Startrek tng trivia error
Hi Tom
ould
also give a far better experience of what the Trek universe is actually
like.
beware the Grue!
Dark.
Beware the Grue!
Dark.
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From: "Thomas Ward"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] S
Hi Tom.
it's just that kind of thing I've heard about enterprise that puts me off
actually paying money for the series, especially sinse it's pretty obvious
this was just a case of "woopse! didn't watch the source material carefully
enough!"
Afterall, if the borg really had been summoned in
HI Dark,
Perhaps there is a middle ground to consider here. Perhaps instead of
a mission parcer or scripts pppersay maybe something like a level
editor. Not sure how that would work, but as long as ships were given
generic names, like Klingon Bird of Prey or Romulan Warbird it might
work with prer
Well I can't say things are that much better in this country regarding
literacy, in fact a recent survey by the times actually found 90 percent of
secondary school children thought Rudyard Kipling was something to do with
Kiplings cakes (a popular supermarkit brand of packaged cakes over here),
Hi Dark,
Well, keep in mind that the original series was produced on a shoe
string budget. Back in the 1960's nobody thought Star Trek would
become a big name production. At the time Star Trek was just one of
several sci-fi series being shown along with Lost in Space, Voyage to
the Bottom of the S
Fair enough on both counts tom.
however, for myself as I've said, I've always felt that with games like
Jims, entombed and 7-128, investing in a better sapi voice is like buying a
joystick.
As you know I use scansoft daniel myself, which I'm quite happy with.
the other reason i suggested sap
Hi Dark,
Lol! Did I say the Twin Towers? My bad I know it is the Two Towers.
I'm losing my mind.
As to your points about the title of the Two Towers and the American
publics opinion of it that again is just another case in point of how
uneducated the general public is. The fact someone asked, "wh
Hi Willem,
Yes. You are quite right. In the immortal words of Rickie Nelson, "you
can't please everyone so you've got to please yourself."
On 7/11/11, Willem wrote:
> Thomas, in my opinion, you should just write what you'd like to make.
> Regardless of what it is, there will be people that will
HI Dark,
Thanks for the vote of confidence, and you are right. One very
important aspect of game programming in general is balancing personal
preference with technical perfection. Which can be an extremely
important factor in a game. You can only get that through experience
and practice. It certai
Hi Dark,
I see your point, but I'm still not sure I'd want to introduce
multiple classes into the game. For one thing it is several times more
complex because i'd have to have multiple stat checks that boils down
to if ship is class x do this and if ship is class y do that. Perhaps
an idea for an
sonal preference and absolute technical perfection and
Tom has enough knolidge of one to satisfy the other I think.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
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From: "Willem"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] S
Thomas, in my opinion, you should just write what you'd like to make.
Regardless of what it is, there will be people that will enjoy it and
also people that don't. The only requirement is that it is good enough
for you. It is impossible to please everyone.
Have fun.
On 7/11/2011 7:59 AM, Thom
As an amusing point tom, you ctually justified my lotr statement by
referring to the 2nd film as "the twin towers"
Because of shear bad luck the film came out only a couple of years after
september the eleventh, and a lot of americans were irritated at the title
"the two towers" even though it
Hi Tom.
as far as trek series go, well Enterprise is one I've not seen only heard
of.
I watched most of tng and a good bit of ds9 and the first few series of
voyager on sky 1, but I seemed to miss enterprise.
Though I've now got the three other series on dvd, I hesitate from buying
enterpr
Hi Tom.
Well I have three favourite doctors really. john pertwee, the sardonic,
elegant and slightly self obsessed 3rd doctor.
anyone who can ko a guard with a bottle of wine, then complain about it
being such a good vintage gets my vote ;D.
Colin baker, the loud, random and abrasive 6th do
Hi Tom.
there seems a very logical solution to this situation, namely, instead of
having the player select a ship, giving them a specific ship for a specific
mission. Afterall, starfleet are not idiots, and if some captain insists on
taking on a borg cube with an intrepid class ship for instan
Hi Dark,
Yeah. That is exactly why I hate it when they turn a book into a
movie. Some idiot screen writer changes this and that, and eventually
end up screwing it up in some way. Take the HP films. I can't stand
them because Warner Brothers has taken liberties with the story and
they aren't as goo
Hi Dark,
Oh, cool. Do you have a favorite Dr. Who?
I think my favorite is Tom Baker. I still think he was probably one of
the best. Then again, that's the series I watched most as a kid and
there were some really good shows during that series. I didn't like
the older DR. Who shows from the 60's
Hi Dark,
Yeah, it is something I would like doing. For one thing I am
personally more interested in a game like lone Wolf with a Star Trek
theme better than something like STFC. I would have done it a long
time ago, but I wasn't skilled enough to try it way back when.
Basically, when I wrote STFC
Hi Tom.
I think part of the decision about the recent trek film was because
enterprise annoyed a lot of people due to continuity and plothole problems
and a very silly ending, thus they wanted to remind people of the good days
of trek really.
I wasn't keen on startrek nemesis either, - f
ot;Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 11:08 PM
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this is why the first lotr film is my favourite. While it has it's
problems, it's all in all closest to Tolkien.
many of the changes in the films simply do not m
this is why the first lotr film is my favourite. While it has it's problems,
it's all in all closest to Tolkien.
many of the changes in the films simply do not make sense, for instance when
the entire point of attempting to destroy the ring in the first place, is
that Sauron himself would neve
Hi Dark,
Yikes! That's a lot of ground to cover. Dr. Who is an extremely long
series. I've only seen certain bits and pieces of it, because a lot of
the Dr. Who stuff wasn't aired over here in the states like over in
the UK.
In fact, most of my knowledge of Dr. Who is the 70's and 80's stuff I
wa
Hi tom.
I believe this question came up before, and actually myself I'd prefer a
single ship sim like lone wolf with a starship, rather than a multi ship
command game, just as for me that's far more interesting, especially if it
followed lw in having a mission creator where you could define di
iginal Message -
From: "Jim Kitchen"
To: "dark"
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Startrek tng trivia error
Hi Dark,
Here is the response from Brad.
Hi Jim, That person was quite right. I relied on the draft script I had
for that episode, si
-
From: "Jim Kitchen"
To: "dark"
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 2:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Startrek tng trivia error
Hi Dark,
Here is the response from Brad.
Hi Jim, That person was quite right. I relied on the draft script I had
for that episode, since the ep itself
Hi Bryan,
Tell me about it. The books are the official cannon as far as I am
concerned too. Some of the answers in the trivia files are out right
wrong, or right depending on if they are going by the movie or the
book. When in doubt the book should be consulted before the movie
adaption as we know
Hi Dark,
Yeah, I agree. Like I said earlier I was actually in the processs of
developing such a Star Trek game when I got side tracked with
Montezuma's Revenge, Mysteries of the Ancients, and raceway, etc.
Basically, the game I was creating was similar to Lone Wolf, where you
commanded a single s
;
To: "dark"
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Startrek tng trivia error
Hi Dark,
Here is the response from Brad.
Hi Jim, That person was quite right. I relied on the draft script I had
for that episode, since the ep itself is so long. But I went in and
chang
Hi Dark,
Here is the response from Brad.
Hi Jim, That person was quite right. I relied on the draft script I had for
that episode, since the ep itself is so long. But I went in and changed the
answer in question. The question now displays the correct answer, 2079, still
being answer 3. Here's
Hi Tom.
Well personally I like the idea of your own ship much more. You certainly
have enough startrek sounds to create convincing cutscenes, all that you
need then are some decent voices for the crew and captain, which
certainly myself and maybe some other people on list who have suffici
Hi Dark,
Yeah, I've thought of that myself. Sure I can scrape together frazes
etc from the actual actors etc, but it would be much easier to create
a completely non--cannon ship complete with fresh actors doing voice
overs like "Aye Sir," and so on.
A lot of the Star Trek games out there like Eli
Thanks Jim,
That would be helpful sinse I'm pretty certain that question has a mistaken
date.
Beware the Grue!
Dark.
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From: "Jim Kitchen"
To: "dark"
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Startrek tng trivia
Hi Dark,
I will forward your message to Brad the creator of the trivia files.
Personally I remember the two part Far Point episode, but not the date.
BFN
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Hi.
I'm just playing the tng trivia, and while i'd not count myself as a startrek expert, I'm afraid I have
Interesting.
If you did manage to write something, I'd read it grins.
Amanda
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From: "Thomas Ward"
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:11 AM
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Startrek tng trivia error
Hi tom.
Fair enough. Being as that was all ship based I can rather see how it fits
in with what's going on in the tv series so you are playing more a member of
the ship's crew with specialized fps missions than someone in the usual fps
warzone type standpoint.
Another interesting point about
Hi Dark,
Yeah, a game like Lone Wolf with a Star Trek theme would totally rock.
At one time I had started on one using the USS Defiant, but the
project got ditched or put off because at the time I had just taken
over Montezuma's Revenge and Raceway, and all the games I was working
on in 2005/2006
Hi Tom.
That's understandable and in fact is the reason I myself probably only
reread lotr, the hobbit and the Silmarillion about once every 18 months to
two and a half years.
even the best books, series and such can be read too much.
In the case of games, one thing I've always wanted to see
Hi Amanda,
Tell me about it. I was pretty upset when I tried to copy them to my
PC, and found out that the floppies had gone bad. Which the 3.5
floppies were definitely known to do. That was before cd rom burners
etc existed and was really the only way to back up stuff. I'm glad
there are better w
Hi Dark,
I think for me it is a simple case of burn out. I started watching TNG
on September 28, 1987, the original air date of Encounter at Farpoint,
and faithfully watched every single show until the series ended. Plus
I watched them multiple times as reruns. Same with the books. I read
every TN
Hi Tom.
that's pretty major but quite understandable, my brother was in the same
position. In fact family wise he was perminantly called warf, sinse he had
the yellow tng security uniform jackit, long hair, and a grumpy disposition
;D.
Myself, I was never a major fan and hadn't seen much tre
nt: Saturday, July 09, 2011 11:30 PM
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Startrek tng trivia error
Hi Dark,
Smile. Let's just say I out grew that period of my life. Back when I
was a teenager I lived and breathed Star Trek.
I watched TNG, DS9, and Voyager every we
Hi Dark,
Smile. Let's just say I out grew that period of my life. Back when I
was a teenager I lived and breathed Star Trek.
I watched TNG, DS9, and Voyager every week. The first showing of
Voyager's pilot, The Caretaker, was on my birthday none-the-less. I
read every single book I could get my b
Hi,
Nope. they were only featured in Encounter at Farpoint as far as I recall.
On 7/9/11, Bryan Peterson wrote:
> That torture scene in Encounter at Farpoint used to give me the creeps LOL.
> You know when Riker, Data and Troi found Zorn onboard wat they first thought
> was the enemy spaceship.
Hay tom, you disappoint me, I always think of you as a major startrek buff
;D.
Eitherway it's easy to check.
I also agree about the torture scene Bryan.
it's weerd, there are all sorts of rules on tv about not showing blood guts
and violence, but what has always bothered me is seeing people,
y one
that latched onto the Enterprise in Galaxy's Child.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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From: "Thomas Ward"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Startrek tng trivia error
Hi
Hi Dark,
You might be right. I'd have to review the show again to be certain,
but 2079 sounds right to me. As I recall 2060 was first contact wasn't
it?
I will say although I am a big Treck fan I haven't read the books or
watched the shows in so long I'm beginning to forget dates, history,
and so
I'm not 100 percent sure, but it does seem that you are correct.
---
"Security is not the absence of danger. It is the presence of the Lord."
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To:
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 12:55 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Startrek tng trivia error
Hi.
I'm just p
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