Re: [MBZ] OT Vax fun

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Thanks for these numbers and explanation.  I got one of those finger things
back when COVID started. I notice about 95% resting (watching TV) but 95-97%
if more active.  Seemed counterintuitive but this explains it

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 1:28 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Karl Wittnebel 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vax fun

The better sensors have a little waveform graph. It has to have a smooth
sinusoidal pattern to get a good reading.

In hospital, we say everything over 92% is fine. Around 90% and lower, there
is a sigmoidal relationship between the hemoglobin saturation and the
partial pressure of oxygen. This helps the blood cells/hemoglobin rapidly
give up its oxygen when the blood gets to the peripheral capillaries:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen%E2%80%93hemoglobin_dissociation_curve

What it means in practice is that you don't want to be 90 or lower. That
would be abnormal for sure. 95-97 not a big deal. Parts of the lung actually
collapse when we are sedentary for example, leading to lower
(95-97) readings, and when we exert ourselves and breathe deeper/harder we
recruit those areas of the lung again. So you could be 97 then climb a
flight of stairs and be 99.



On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 9:58 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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> On 2020-12-19 12:01, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
> > Yes normally humans with healthy lungs walk around at 97% or better.
> > Anything under 92% is dodgy.
>
> Mine is usually 94-97, often reading 95.
> My dad (COPD) was usually 97-99. (same numbers whether using his 
> fingertip gizmo or mine) Anything I should be worried about?
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement battery 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Hint:  If you buy a Walmart battery, but it online for in-store pickup.
Last time I got one I saw a good price online and just went to the store to
pick one up.  When they "rang it up" the cost was almost double the online
price.  If I had had any sense I would have cancelled that sale, ordered one
on my cell phone, and then walked to the pickup area.  Lesson learned.

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From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 2:14 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacement battery 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec

This seems like a deal, if you can find one in stock and if it has the right
terminal configuration.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/EverStart-Platinum-AGM-Battery-Group-Size-65-12V-
750-CCA/841832089

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Re: [MBZ] A quiz question for you

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Many variables but 2 GPM should be ballpark, so about 40,000 gal.   Or enough 
to fill a 40 ft by 200 dt swimming pool 7 ft deep.  Obviously this is not a 
septic tank situation.

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From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 2:08 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] A quiz question for you

Yep

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 17, 2020, at 11:54 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Let me guess - more fun with the rental?
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 12:52 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> How much water can a toilet use that has been running non stop for 2 weeks 
>> straight?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] This is not political, but a serious question, if you can’t handle it then hit delete

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

 place, and they (the 
> laptops) were connected to a local WiFi hot-spot that was part of the 
> system, so they could communicate / get updates back to the county HQ voter 
> database.
> I'm not sure if the ballot printer and ballot scanner were also 
> connected, but once the count was resolved, it was loaded back onto 
> that laptop somehow (I'm pretty sure via the local WiFi hotspot) and 
> that laptop was the way the electronic count was returned to county election 
> HQ.
> 
> Here in Charleston, we had a lot of folks examining the totals and 
> comparing them to historical patterns, and although the results were 
> disappointing in some cases and pleasing in others, nothing was 
> observed to raise alarms in the result.
> 
> What was troubling to me was that we had three known instances of 
> clear violations of voting law at the polling places, where one party 
> tried to influence voters or intimidate poll watchers and so favor one 
> party over the other.  This pattern has been repeated locally for 
> years; one side is convinced that breaking the law and bending the 
> rules in their favor is OK, and at every election we have to be ready 
> to try to counter this to ensure the fairest election possible.  It is 
> very easy for me to believe that this same pattern repeats across the 
> nation, and the impact can be enough to swing the result in a tight 
> race.  If we had a tight race and these same patterns of law-breaking 
> and rule bending were present, I'd be among the first to cry foul and seek a 
> recount / remedy.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 6:53 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Working with the SOE (supervisor of elections) here I can calm your fears.
>> 
>> As previously stated, a nation state, most likely the Russians, did 
>> breach several state’s voter registration databases aound the 2016 
>> election. While problematic for a lot of reasons, doing so had no 
>> effect on the actual voting process.
>> 
>> The actual voting systems, which vary from state to state, are always 
>> “air gapped” in the sense that voting machines are never, ever 
>> connected to the Internet or any network of any kind. As described by 
>> others, ballots are typically printed out for each voter as they 
>> register or check in at a polling place, filled out by the voter, 
>> then scanned by a completely stand-alone voting machine. The votes 
>> tabulated in that machine are collected on a memory card or other 
>> means of electronic storage that is encrypted using state of the art 
>> encryption protocols. There is a clearly defined chain of custody 
>> involving the handling of the machines, memory cards, ballots and anything 
>> else involved in the process.
>> 
>> When auditing the results, paper ballots marked by the voters are 
>> scanned by a machine and tabulated separately to compare with the 
>> results tabulated by the voting machines.
>> 
>> It’s a very, very highly controlled process that has changed little 
>> over the years. Most states and municipalities continue to use a 
>> paper ballot of some sort in order to provide a hard copy of the 
>> votes - I’m not aware of anyone who does it 100% electronically, although 
>> there may be somewhere.
>> 
>> The stories about massive numbers of votes being added/removed and 
>> such are bogus. The process simply doesn’t have the capacity for such 
>> alterations, and even if someone tried it, the audits done using the 
>> physical paper ballots would quickly reveal any discrepancies. 
>> Mistakes do happen, and they’re typically identified in short order 
>> when audits are performed and corrected on the spot. It’s still a 
>> very manual process everywhere I know of, and that’s one of the 
>> reasons why the integrity of the process has been preserved.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 2:09 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> My current NC county as well as my previous FL county used this system.
>> After marking a paper ballot the voter feeds it into a reader which 
>> indicates that the ballot was accepted (read OK) or rejected (spit 
>> back out).  Accepted ballots are held within the machine.  This is 
>> the best system I know: simple, cheap, secure and auditable.  
>> Anything more complex facilitates fraud, IMO.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From:  Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes,  Wednesday, December 16, 2020 
>>> 11:33
>> PM
>>> 
>>> Here in o

Re: [MBZ] This is not political, but a serious question, if you can’t handle it then hit delete

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

My current NC county as well as my previous FL county used this system.  After 
marking a paper ballot the voter feeds it into a reader which indicates that 
the ballot was accepted (read OK) or rejected (spit back out).  Accepted 
ballots are held within the machine.  This is the best system I know: simple, 
cheap, secure and auditable.  Anything more complex facilitates fraud, IMO.

-Original Message-
From:  Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes,  Wednesday, December 16, 2020 11:33 PM

Here in our state you get a paper ballot that you color in the squares to vote. 
Then feed it into a machine that scans it and counts it. Even though a machine 
counts it, you still have a physical paper that can be hand counted later. Are 
other states totally electronic?

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Re: [MBZ] It's about time we get these in diesel

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Exactly.  Most diesel idle fuel consumption is for accessories (AC,
alternator, oil pump, etc.) which you probably still want at a long stop
light or in stop and go gridlock.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 2:56 PM
To: Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
Cc: Randy Bennell 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] It's about time we get these in diesel

Why would stop start function save fuel on a diesel? My understanding is
that a diesel uses almost no fuel at idle.
Does not sound like a good idea for diesel.

RB

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> https://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/home.detail.html/con
> tent/Pages/news/us/en/2020/dec/1203-duramax.html?fbclid=IwAR2nW-zi_-hw
> ulxnkcdVWErvC8Bt9wp1ttmWdqQT2_iiYEUHrAMfTrgHB-c
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

If we still have the Internet and virtual processes used during COVID, do we
really need markets and exchanges in big cities?  Why can't all that be
virtual from wherever?  With online banking, investing, etc. I think we are
close to that now.   There is, however, a serious drawback in reduced social
contact:  https://biggeekdad.com/2016/12/the-millennial-question/ 

The traditional retirement investment was to have kids who can take care of
you in old age.  If we, as a nation, continue to have too few children it
won't matter how much gold or dollars the old geezers have; there will be no
care-givers to hire, at least not American ones.

-Original Message-
From:  Allan Streib via Mercedes

Subject: Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are

I get the sentiment but we need both unless we revert to pure subsistence
living. Farmers absolutely need commodities markets in Chicago and New York,
for example. Anyone with any substantial assets needs insurance. Anyone who
wants income to retire on needs investments.

...


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Re: [MBZ] OT: $800 MacBook with iPhone CPU?

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Windows Classic Shell can provide a very W2K/XP interface:
http://www.classicshell.net/downloads/

It's all I use.  I never saw any benefit to those stupid boxes in Win10.  
AND it's not worth my time to learn a new GUI every time some liberal arts
clown at Micro$oft has a wild hair.


-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 3:01 PM
To: Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
Cc: Allan Streib 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: $800 MacBook with iPhone CPU?

Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:

> Does Win10 have a Classic Mode to make the switch more transparent?

I don't use Windows much these days, but as far as I know Windows 10 does
not have a "classic" mode built-in. I believe there are themes you can find
(buy?) that approximate the look and feel of Windows 7.

My favorite Windows from a UI standpoint was Windows 2000 Professional.
Clean, responsive, minimal lipstick and eye candy.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

VD Hanson podcast episode 44 talks about the urban-rural divide:
https://www.nationalreview.com/podcasts/the-victor-davis-hanson-podcast/episode-44-the-critical-essence-of-the-country-mouse/

One key take-away, IMO, is the urban folks cannot survive without country folks 
that provide food, water, energy, and other raw materials.

On the other hand, without the urban folks, rural folks would lack what?  A 
stock market?  Insurance policies? Most taxes?  Streaming Video?  Class action 
law suits?  Network/cable news?

To be sure, there are many blue collar urban folks that make an honest living.  
I criticize the white-collar snobs that live off their credentials and 
connections.

The arrogance of those urban parasites who contribute almost nothing but think 
they are better than the rest.  Even a one-day strike (no food, no water, no 
gas, no garbage removal, etc.) against any big city would be an eye-opener.   
Maybe give them a one-week preview of the green new deal.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of OK Don via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 10:47 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: OK Don 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are

I know some people like that - they are from the East coast - always renters, 
never dealt with anything themselves - just call the landlord.
Also, he might have only lived in all electric houses - they "just work".

On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 10:34 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I know a guy like this. Tech guy, smart, but clueless about ordinary 
> stuff. He knows how to put gas in his car. Any other issue, even a 
> burned out bulb, bad wiper blade, etc. it goes to the dealer. That's 
> actually not uncommon I guess.
>
> I'm surprised, honestly, that you would shut off utilities in the 
> house between tenants. Not something I would do but your business I 
> guess. Just seems to me it makes things that much more complicated on 
> move-in day for very minimal savings.
>
> Allan
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"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause 
and reflect." Mark Twain

“Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher 
Von Braun
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Opportunity?

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

During WII, Hitler planned to literally ship dirt from USSR to Germany to grow 
food.

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Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 10:57 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: OK Don 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Opportunity?

On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 7:16 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 
> But why would people in OK buy potting soil and have it UPS'd in from 
> out of state?
>

They are too stoned to think ...

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and reflect." Mark Twain

“Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher 
Von Braun
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2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Random COVID question

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Here's a thought:  The big coastal metro areas NEED flyover country, at least 
if they want water, food, and power.  But flyover country does not need those 
cities.  

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Clay Monroe via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2020 5:37 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Clay Monroe 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Random COVID question

AK has to barge all its goods from outside.  Article in this week’s daily rag 
reports that shipping costs are going up due to constrictions related to 
meeting mandates, wear and tear on employees, and PITA of access to docks.  Lot 
of boats are moored at ports with no place to be.  

Added to the reduced hours manufacturers of goods are actually producing, paper 
plants dropped shifts, much as others have reduced employment.  Less goods to 
ship, less stuff on shelves.  Now it is weather that slows or impedes goods 
arriving, so it stacks up at originating ports not getting loaded, as well as 
not being off loaded, as there is reduced rail and road transport.  

A recent example of how SARS-CoV is tossing a wrench.  #1 boy is essential.  He 
was in a location all day with somebody who came in contact with another person 
who came in contact with other person who tested for the plague.  Being a 
conscientious person, he tells the supervisor.  That gets him sent home until 
he has percolated long enough for plague to erupt, at which point he has to get 
a test for Schroedinger virus.  

One week out of work.  

Tested and has to wait, since employer demands most reliable testing.  

Other week unemployed.   

Had he been truly infected, then funding would have kicked in for lost wages.  
Since he did not become plague zombie, no dinero, work was down essential 
employees at essential job sites for half the month, chain reaction of contact 
trace put even more people imprisoned to 14 days, slowing more essential 
business.

One positive.  It was hunting season, so the plague in waiting group was able 
to bag their limits.


Clay


inter urinas et faeces nascimur

> On Nov 22, 2020, at 1:12 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> How come, as we approach a year of this pandemic, the paper companies 
> still cannot keep retailers stocked with toilet paper and paper towels?
> 
> I was at Target yesterday, and they had nothing. Zippo. Not even a 
> roll of the most generic off-brand anything.
> 
> Is it simply lack of truck and storage and shelf space? The retailers 
> are buying as much as they can fit through their pipeline and it's 
> still not enough?
> 
> Why are they not raising prices to meet demand? Surely it's better to 
> have to pay more for something if you really need it, than to be 
> unable to buy it at all? A higher price will also discourgage hoarding.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT remember when electronic heath records were thought to be a step forward?

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

In NC, open carry is legal unless you are a prohibited person, underage, or in 
a no-gun zone (hospital, post office, Cop shop, school, courthouse, etc. or 
anywhere the owner posts a no-gun sign).

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 7:38 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT remember when electronic heath records were thought to be 
a step forward?

On 2020-11-16 11:32, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> I’m here at the hospital getting my covids trial shot and they don’t 
> allow concealed weapons. I wonder if the M4 would be OK

In MI, hospitals are on the list of places where you can't conceal by law 
unless certain law enforcement exemptions apply to you, and you can't carry in 
those places without a CPL. The unintended consequence of those two laws is 
that you can open carry in hospitals and schools, but only if you have a 
concealed pistol license.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Going home today

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

A data point.  My dad had lung problems and I took him to Mayo in Jacksonville 
in 1995.  Mayo discovered he had aggressive small-cell lung cancer, past point 
of surviving.  His local pulmonologist previously screwed around for several 
months but never discovered the cancer.  I was impressed that the Mayo Docs 
took time to READ carefully everything in his records.  I was impressed by the 
Mayo Docs.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 2:32 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Going home today

Sounds like you might benefit from a visit to the Mayo Clinic.  One of my male 
co-workers did his annual physical there every year after he reached 50.  They 
do a complete workup.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/

On Sun, Nov 15, 2020 at 2:28 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < 
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> Nope, no definite reason could be found to correct so I am at high 
> risk for a recovering event.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 15, 2020, at 12:30 PM, dan--- via Mercedes 
> > 
> wrote:
> >
> > Good news - that you’re going home.
> >
> > Any idea of how these occurred or what might have caused them?
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Nov 15, 2020, at 1:12 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I should be released from the hospital today. Dr showed me my CT 
> >> and
> the clots were very severe. Said if I had waited another hour before 
> coming in I probably would have dropped dead.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] OT remember when electronic heath records were thought to be a step forward?

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Somehow I can't help but think the answer to the "firearms in the house" 
question would not remain between me and my doctor.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 8:41 PM
To: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
Cc: Allan Streib 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT remember when electronic heath records were thought to be 
a step forward?

Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> “Do you have any firearms in your house?”

"Why yes I do, would you like me to bring one to my next appointment?"

Wonder how that would go over.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Going home today

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

How do you prevent recurrence?  Warfarin (rat poison) is tricky and requires
monitoring and diet control.  SWMBO switched to Pradaxa which costs more but
does not require frequent monitoring or diet restrictions.  Pradaxa has
similar competitors now, so may get cheaper.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 1:12 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: [MBZ] Going home today

I should be released from the hospital today. Dr showed me my CT and the
clots were very severe. Said if I had waited another hour before coming in I
probably would have dropped dead. 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: A Life Lesson

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Thank you all for your kind thoughts.
Peter, good idea on the trust.  My mother did that and it might make sense
for me too. 

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:53 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Peter Frederick 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: A Life Lesson

So sorry to hear about your wife's passing.  It's never fun.  My Mom is
almost 97, so it's only a matter of time.

I recommend talking to an estate attorney once you have things settled.  It
is far better to have a trust set up than to go through probate, to say
nothing of less expensive.  There are also advantages if you need home
health care in the future.  A friend of mine had one heck of a time when her
father passed away (an estate attorney who didn't set up his own) and
got everything put the way she wanted it.  When she unexpectedly passed away
5 years ago everything went fine other than the fact that we all lost her.

Peter
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[MBZ] OT: A Life Lesson

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

SWMBO recently turned 90 (I'm a few years behind).  Except for A-Fib, she
was in generally good health but experienced nausea a few times a month
after dinner, which usually passed in a few hours or by morning.  Two weeks
ago she got sicker and sicker until she agreed to go to the ER.  A CT scan
showed her stomach had twisted and moved in a way that stopped blood flow to
part of her stomach; that tissue died and ruptured.  Emergency surgery
(within hours) repaired the damage but she died later that day.  The
suddenness of her death stunned me.

 

I learned a few things.  My wife's final wishes were well known (to me and
our children) and she wrote her complete eulogy, obituary, and memorial
service 10 years ago.  This made "first things" incredibly easy.  Almost all
of our assets have survivor rights or named beneficiaries and my wife's will
makes me executor which simplifies many things too.

 

But the lesson is that life is fragile.  The end can come suddenly with no
warning.  You will do your family a huge favor by making provisions for
final arrangements and financial management.  In my own family (a previous
generation) surviving siblings severed ties for life because of a
disagreement over funeral arrangements.  

 

Personally, I will now make pre-need final arrangements and also hire a
trusted local professional to execute my will.  

 

Scott

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Re: [MBZ] OT remember when electronic heath records were thought to be a step forward?

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Don't forget that the Obamacare electronic records requirement also drove 
small, independent doctors either out of business entirely (if they were close 
to retirement) or forced them to "team" with a big healthcare business.  A 
small operation can't afford a dedicated IT staff.  My dermatologist retired.  
My cardiologist moved to another town and teamed with Rex.  My internist stayed 
put and teamed with Duke.  None of this stuff is free.  We (that's you and I) 
pay for it one way or another.

On the plus side, I like to see my internist come into the exam room with his 
computer AND his paper patient folder.



> -Original Message-
> From:  Allan Streib 
> Subject: [MBZ] OT remember when electronic heath records were thought to
> be a step forward?
> 
> It's just a complete disaster.
> 
> Paper has its drawbacks, but it can't be remotely exploited and rendered
> unreadable or exposed to the world.
> 
> https://healthitsecurity.com/news/security-threat-forces-hendrick-health-to-
> ehr-downtime-procedures
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Re: [MBZ] Looks like I get to spend several days in the hospital

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

If you saw the news 7-10 days ago ... same, same.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 12:50 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looks like I get to spend several days in the hospital

I have not watched the news lately so can somebody tell me if Trump won or lost?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 13, 2020, at 11:46 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Be sure to ask for the Okiebenz co-pay waiver.
> 
>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 9:16 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes < 
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Take care, glad you have it diagnosed!  Update us when you can, 
>> hospital stay is no fun.  Pro-tip: don't watch the news, watch car stuff 
>> instead.
>> Or maybe funny cat videos.
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> Nov 12, 2020 4:41:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> >> :
>> 
>>> Been having shortness of breath after just walking. Last night got 
>>> much
>> worse and had to cut a business trip short and go through ER. 
>> Apparently I have “lots” of blood clots in the lungs. They are going 
>> to put in 2 caths and run them up to my lungs to remove the clots.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Looks like I get to spend several days in the hospital

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Kaleb, I wish you a speedy and successful procedure.  Scott

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 4:41 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: [MBZ] Looks like I get to spend several days in the hospital

Been having shortness of breath after just walking. Last night got much worse 
and had to cut a business trip short and go through ER. Apparently I have 
“lots” of blood clots in the lungs. They are going to put in 2 caths and run 
them up to my lungs to remove the clots. 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Geothermal energy to the rescue

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Geothermal uses the temperature difference between the hot source and cool 
sink: more is better.  In places like Iceland where the earth's crust is thin 
and mantle closer to the surface, geothermal is very practical and powers most 
of that island.  Other places not so much.  The article has some technical 
errors (like temp and depth of the magma) but the ideas are OK.  Someone needs 
to look into the long-term climate impacts of extracting massive amounts of 
heat from the earth's core.  Any engineer will tell you that there is (almost) 
no free lunch.  In any event, it is only useful for stationary power/heat 
generation: liquid fuels and/or super batteries still needed for vehicles.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of OK Don via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2020 3:32 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: OK Don 
Subject: [MBZ] OT: Geothermal energy to the rescue

Sounds almost too good to be true, but worth a try:

https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2020/10/21/21515461/renewable-energy-geothermal-egs-ags-supercritical
--
OK Don

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause 
and reflect." Mark Twain

“Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher 
Von Braun
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2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Emergency power has been deployed

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I hear you.  

Power outages at our NC house were  common in the past, but rare recently.  I 
think we had less than 10 hours of actual power outage over 15 years since we 
installed a generator.  I'm still glad we have it, especially if (when?) one of 
us needs powered home medical equipment in the future.

We moved to NC in 2005. Our previous house in the FL panhandle had days-long 
power outages every year.  We are getting older and wanted reliable power at 
the new house.   The "new" NC house was built in 1854 so the major 2005-2006 
remodel included a complete rewire/replumb plus a 15KW Generac  automatic 
standby generator and a 500 gal underground LP tank.   

In retrospect:
I think LP was a good choice for fuel ; it also feeds  the stove and 
fireplaces. The generator gets an annual oil change (usually) with same Mobile 
1 5W30 I use in gas engines.  The generator case is steel and it's starting to 
rust, ugly but not a problem.  This is an older model with a mechanical 
governor that is load sensitive.  It runs just above 60HZ at light load; cheap 
UPS systems don't like that and switch to battery, which doesn't last long.  I 
bought two APC Smart UPS systems (from ExcessUPS.com) which run fine even of 
the frequency is a slightly high.

-Original Message-
From:  Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 11:30 AM


That’s like the irony of installing a whole house generator system and have no 
outages since it’s been deployed. Not that I want a hurricane, but...

-D


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Re: [MBZ] California is banning sales of new gas-powered cars by 2035.

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I foresee a coming mandate for EV imbedded GPS mileage (and who knows what 
else) logging with auto download to servers when within Wi-Fi coverage.  
Doesn't Tesla already have the hardware for this?  Big brother is watching.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 8:26 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] California is banning sales of new gas-powered cars by
> 2035.
> 
> Every proposal I saw for per mile taxes involved installing a GPS tracker in 
> the
> car.
> They probably want the tracking more than they want the road tax money.
> 
> Mitch.
> 
> On 2020-10-01 20:17, Clay via Mercedes wrote:
> > Seattle and socialist Washington State just recently bumped up the
> > registration fee on EV and hybrids due to the lack of revenue from
> > emission testing and gas taxes.  One favored solution is to tax per
> > mile driven.  I can picture odometers being spun backward wholesale.
> > Somebody will figure out how to hack the computers to make that
> > happen.
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Re: [MBZ] California is banning sales of new gas-powered cars by 2035.

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Considering the track record, California will look like Cuba or Mexico with 
folks driving old (pre 2015) cars that are grandfathered.  Political 
aristocracy excepted.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Allan Streib via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 2:35 PM
> To: Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
> Cc: Allan Streib 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] California is banning sales of new gas-powered cars by
> 2035.
> 
> I've heard this claim that electic cars can serve as a energy source during
> demand peaks. But is any of the infrastructure to do this even past the theory
> stage?
> 
> The idea being there are a lot of EVs that are sitting around, plugged in, 
> and all
> that stored energy could be used to help meet energy demand spikes on the
> grid.
> 
> How does the electic utility ask your car for its energy? Is any EV actually
> capable of delivering energy back to the grid via its charging socket, or is 
> this a
> new requirement to be imposed on manufacturers (adding to the price of the
> vehicle)?
> 
> What if I need to go somewhere at 6pm but I can't because my car's batteries
> have just been drained by the late afternoon electrical demand peak? Maybe I
> won't plug in my car until 9 or 10pm, just to avoid that potential hassle.
> 
> It seems there are a lot of assumptions about things and capabilities that 
> don't
> yet exist, as well as possible expectations that people won't behave in their
> own self interest.
> 
> Allan
> 
> Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes  writes:
> 
> > I dont think this is much of an issue. Most of the charging occurs at
> > off peak times. It can also be scheduled to do so. Batteries can also
> > be employed, including car batteries, to manage the load. And power
> > infrastructure can also be upgraded, which is long overdue anyway in
> > many areas, and already being reviewed due to forest fires. Solar is
> > pretty good here and we often pay AZ to take it, so some daytime
> > demand would actually be good.
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020, 10:35 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Where will they get the power to charge all those electric cars?  Do
> >> we know that those power plants and distribution infrastructure will
> >> be cleaner than IC cars?
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020, 07:50 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > California is banning sales of new gas-powered cars by 2035.
> >> >
> >> > Gov. Gavin Newsom, who has made urgent calls this year for sweeping
> >> > actions to curb carbon emissions as massive wildfires have
> >> > devastated the West Coast, signed an order Wednesday aimed at
> >> > helping to phase out combustion vehicles in the nation’s most
> >> > populous state. The measure targets ending the sale of new
> >> > gasoline- and diesel-powered passenger
> >> cars
> >> > in California by 2035. The Democratic governor said transitioning
> >> > to zero-emissions vehicles would significantly reduce the state’s
> >> > greenhouse gas output, about half of which comes from
> >> > transportation. Currently,
> >> less
> >> > than 10% of all new vehicle sales in the state are electric. A
> >> > leading auto-manufacturing lobbying group voiced support for
> >> > expanding electric offerings but called for more consumer
> >> > incentives and infrastructure investments to boost demand.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --FT
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Re: [MBZ] California is banning sales of new gas-powered cars by 2035.

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Where will they get the power to charge all those electric cars?  Do we
know that those power plants and distribution infrastructure will be
cleaner than IC cars?

On Thu, Sep 24, 2020, 07:50 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> California is banning sales of new gas-powered cars by 2035.
>
> Gov. Gavin Newsom, who has made urgent calls this year for sweeping
> actions to curb carbon emissions as massive wildfires have devastated the
> West Coast, signed an order Wednesday aimed at helping to phase out
> combustion vehicles in the nation’s most populous state. The measure
> targets ending the sale of new gasoline- and diesel-powered passenger cars
> in California by 2035. The Democratic governor said transitioning to
> zero-emissions vehicles would significantly reduce the state’s greenhouse
> gas output, about half of which comes from transportation. Currently, less
> than 10% of all new vehicle sales in the state are electric. A leading
> auto-manufacturing lobbying group voiced support for expanding electric
> offerings but called for more consumer incentives and infrastructure
> investments to boost demand.
>
>
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Air Compressors

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

I have a 8 gal 2 hp horizontal tank unit I got from HF, maybe 10 years ago.
Works fine except the check valve for the unloader slow-leaks after the
spring rusted out.  Fine for small projects but not high volume, like a big
nail gun used all day.  My neighbor has a large vertical style compressor
that he pumps up and then wheels to where he needs it.  Other than CFM
capacity, I think portability is the main concern.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 12:05 PM
To: Mercedes List 
Cc: Bob Rentfro 
Subject: [MBZ] Air Compressors

Does Harbor Freight sell and decent air compressors? I think I might be
slowly getting some pneumatic tools. Initially, it will just be airing up
bike tires and blowing sawdust off of projects. 

Bob R 

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Re: [MBZ] More rental house fun

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

What about vinegar?  It's safe, cheap, and should penetrate porous materials.  
I understand the acid in vinegar breaks down the proteins in animal urine.  I 
have had some success with vinegar in carpet but my problem was much easier.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2020 6:09 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Meade Dillon 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] More rental house fun
> 
> Well thanks for trying and reporting back.
> 
> I wonder if you're going to have to demolish and remove the pee-soaked
> material in order to finally remediate the smell.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 4:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > That room shock stuff didn’t touch the dog pee in that room. Today we
> > hosed the brick and floor with Thompson multi surface sealer.
> > Hopefully that will take care of it.
> >
> > Today I discover a new area of wood rot in one of the front bedrooms.
> > This has had wood damage since we have owned the house due to it
> > sitting for about 2 years while still under construction without and
> > windows or doors installed. This unknown to us attracted termites
> > along the front. Floor in the corner of that room was somewhat soft so
> > I decided to go ahead and cut that section out. Just need to sister in
> > a floor joist and replace a section of the header board and should be
> > good. We knew at some point we would have to address it as we have had
> > to in other sections of the front of the house over time. Glad I caught it 
> > and
> decided to address it now.
> > Don’t have much time though as the carpet is being laid Wednesday.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Pumpkin Shortage?

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

For those that believe everything should be natural (no insecticides, no
internal combustion engines, tools, etc.) I have news.  

In the struggle between man and nature, nature wins unless man uses his
brain to cheat.  


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Re: [MBZ] California is banning sales of new gas-powered cars by 2035.

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

I really hope CA, WA, and OR secede.  Then the remaining states can declare war 
on the "West", occupy (probably without resistance) everything but some coastal 
enclaves and shut off the water and power to those blue anthills.  We won't be 
so lucky.

> -Original Message-
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> Max Dillon via Mercedes
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 9:23 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Max Dillon 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] California is banning sales of new gas-powered cars by
> 2035.
> 
> Insanity.  Let the forests burn, releasing more carbon dioxide and other very
> toxic pollution in a week than all those cars in a year or more, and banish
> gasoline engines instead.  Ignore that your state is burning down around your
> ears, but find a boogey man that you can attack to signal your virtue.
> 
> So will all the firefighting equipment be battery powered, hydrogen powered,
> or use unicorn farts?  Maybe all the trees will be burned down by then, so no
> more firefighting equipment will be needed?
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Sep 24, 2020 7:50:52 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
> :
> 
> > California is banning sales of new gas-powered cars by 2035.
> >
> > Gov. Gavin Newsom, who has made urgent calls this year for sweeping
> actions to curb carbon emissions as massive wildfires have devastated the
> West Coast, signed an order Wednesday aimed at helping to phase out
> combustion vehicles in the nation’s most populous state. The measure targets
> ending the sale of new gasoline- and diesel-powered passenger cars in
> California by 2035. The Democratic governor said transitioning to zero-
> emissions vehicles would significantly reduce the state’s greenhouse gas
> output, about half of which comes from transportation. Currently, less than
> 10% of all new vehicle sales in the state are electric. A leading auto-
> manufacturing lobbying group voiced support for expanding electric offerings
> but called for more consumer incentives and infrastructure investments to
> boost demand.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

The older pumps were designed to shut down and lock out if they ran too long 
(e.g. a leak) so they wouldn't burn out or run down the battery.  Common leak 
points are the diaphragms in the pods the soft rubber Ts and Xs that connect 
the hard tubes, and the vacuum reservoir.  Recommend you research your pump to 
see if it has a reset and check fuses.

> -Original Message-
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> Patrick Atuonah via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 1:54 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: obioz...@gmail.com
> Subject: [MBZ] (no subject)
> 
> Well..the system is in default because, I think the vacuum pump is dead. No
> vacuum produced at all.
> I can open the driver's or passenger's door with the key manually(no vacuum).
> I then open the rear doors by hand.
> Of I could find a good used pump, then I can be able to figure out the system.
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Re: [MBZ] Batteries, was: Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

The cables and clamps on my jump packs are comparable to good (not great) 
jumper cables and the wire is only about a foot long.  In most cases I think 
the jump pack tries to put some juice back into the battery (i.e., charge it) 
before a start attempt.  But I've seen demos where the engine starts with just 
the jump pack (no battery); other details (temp, engine type/size, etc.) escape 
me.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 4:29 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Curt Raymond 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Batteries, was: Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels 
better now)

 The thing about those boost packs, I look at the size of the cables (tiny) 
that go to the clamps and I think about the amperage they claim (huge) the pack 
will produce and I think "There ain't no way."
Didn't Kaleb have a clamp melt off once?

You can't cheat physics.
-Curt

On Saturday, September 19, 2020, 5:10:43 PM EDT, Clay via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 My boss had one of those pack things in his car.  Wonderful for getting a jump 
in the spring or summer with warm temps in a small petrol power car.  Not 
capable of lighting off a diesel or much use in the dead of winter where big 
amps are needed.  #1 boy who lives in ND keeps one in his jeep for when it is 
too cold to get a start.  It seems to warm up the battery just enough to let 
loose electrons out of his 1200 CCA winter AGM.

clay 

“I think it’s time we stopped  our cringing embarrassment about our history, 
about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of 
self-recrimination and wetness.”

B. Johnson
01/09/2020

> On Sep 19, 2020, at 12:52 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Me too.  Back in the day it seemed batteries died gradually but now 
> it's sudden death in my experience.  Jumper cables are OK but you need 
> an second, healthy car.  What is the consensus about these Lithium-ion jump 
> packs?
> I bought a Noco Genius Boost Plus GB40 1000 Amp jump pack.  Looked 
> nice and I watched a glowing YouTube review.  But it failed totally 
> when my 13-year-old AGM tractor battery quit.  That jump pack tried to 
> crank (twice) with almost no effect and then gave up indicating the 
> Li-ion bat was over the temp limit.  That jump pack started at 100% 
> charge and still showed 50% when it quit.  A big disappointment.
> I recently bought an Audew 2000A Peak 2mAh jump pack which showed 
> good results (much better than Nico) on a Project Farm YouTube review.  
> In that review the guy actually tested several brands.  I haven't 
> needed it yet (and hopefully won't) so I've no actual experience.
> My Outback has a USB outlet in the cargo area which is powered when 
> the car is running so I leave the jump pack there, plugged in to charge.
> Andrew's point about towing insurance makes more sense in urban areas, IMO.
> Living in a very rural area, I prefer self-rescue vs waiting for a tow 
> truck or a good Samaritan (who could turn out to be a crook).
> Scott
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via Mercedes
> 
> In my experience, batteries are fine, until suddenly they are not.
> 
> They can overnight go from starting fine to not having enough juice to 
> even turn the engine.
> 
> If your battery is seven years old I'd advise replacing it, or at 
> least carrying a set of jumper cables in your car (few people do these 
> days, so it's often hard to find someone who can give you a jump if 
> you don't have cables handy).
> 
> Allan
> 
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Batteries, was: Daimler cheated too?

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AGM=Absorbed Glass Matt.  Instead of plates immersed in liquid sulfuric acid, 
AGM plates are separated by fiberglass mats that are saturated (like a sponge) 
with a thickened electrolyte that stays in place (doesn't run off).  These 
batteries can usually be mounted in any orientation.  They are semi-sealed so 
they don't leak acid and they are valve regulated to limit internal pressure. 
They try to contain most of generated H2 and O2 and recombine back into water 
inside the battery.  Optima gel batteries are similar but are spiral wound 
which limits battery dimensions (must be six cylinders).

Functionally, AGM batteries can deliver higher current, charge faster, tolerate 
deep discharge better, and self-discharge slower (compared to comparable 
flooded batteries). The Car Quest AGM battery in my tractor survived 13-14 
years after it went dead several times.  

The problem is that new batteries can be very different from batteries made 
5-15 years.  Most "brands" periodically contract out to one of about five 
companies that actually make batteries, and even then they build to several 
specification levels.

Flooded batteries can gave good service if properly maintained, which is rare, 
so they usually have shorter life.  So AGM is should be  superior in actual use 
but it is possible to make poor AGM batteries just like poor regular batteries. 

Scott 

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 12:34 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Floyd Thursby 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Batteries, was: Daimler cheated too?

AGM is a type of battery Advanced? Gel Mat I think it means.  Not your standard 
water/lead/acid type

--FT

On 9/20/20 12:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> Thanks, Ned. Is the Mercedes branded replacement battery for a Bluetec 
> car made by AGM or do you have to request it?
>
> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020, 10:13 AM ned kleinhenz via Mercedes < 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> I found AGM batteries are a really good thing.  In the winter of 2019 
>> my
>> 2006 Mercedes E320CDI needed a new battery.  When they checked the 
>> serial number of the old battery, it was found to be the original battery 
>> sold in
>> that car when new.  That was 13 years and 200,000 miles ago.   I had
>> the Mercedes dealer replace it with a new $300 AGM battery.
>>
>>
>>
>> In 2015, I had to replace the original AGM battery in my 2000 BMW Z3.  
>> All I could get quickly was a standard wet cell battery at Sears.  
>> That battery never performed well in the infrequent use this car 
>> gets. This summer that battery would no longer take a charge so I 
>> replaced it with a new AGM battery.  A standard battery at O’Reilly’s would 
>> have cost $150.  The AGM
>> battery cost $200.   The difference in life expectancy is ~5 years vs ~10
>> to 15 years.  I believe the cost of an AGM battery is well worth it 
>> if you keep cars as long as I do.
>>
>> Ned Kleinhenz
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Re: [MBZ] Batteries, was: Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Here is that PF YouTube review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN8A2nIMUWA=youtu.be=6



-Original Message-
From: Scott Ritchey 
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 4:52 PM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' 
Subject: RE: [MBZ] Batteries, was: Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels
better now)

Me too.  Back in the day it seemed batteries died gradually but now it's
sudden death in my experience.  Jumper cables are OK but you need an second,
healthy car.  What is the consensus about these Lithium-ion jump packs?
I bought a Noco Genius Boost Plus GB40 1000 Amp jump pack.  Looked nice and
I watched a glowing YouTube review.  But it failed totally when my
13-year-old AGM tractor battery quit.  That jump pack tried to crank (twice)
with almost no effect and then gave up indicating the Li-ion bat was over
the temp limit.  That jump pack started at 100% charge and still showed 50%
when it quit.  A big disappointment.
I recently bought an Audew 2000A Peak 2mAh jump pack which showed good
results (much better than Nico) on a Project Farm YouTube review.  In that
review the guy actually tested several brands.  I haven't needed it yet (and
hopefully won't) so I've no actual experience.
My Outback has a USB outlet in the cargo area which is powered when the car
is running so I leave the jump pack there, plugged in to charge.
Andrew's point about towing insurance makes more sense in urban areas, IMO.
Living in a very rural area, I prefer self-rescue vs waiting for a tow truck
or a good Samaritan (who could turn out to be a crook).
Scott


-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via Mercedes

In my experience, batteries are fine, until suddenly they are not.

They can overnight go from starting fine to not having enough juice to even
turn the engine.

If your battery is seven years old I'd advise replacing it, or at least
carrying a set of jumper cables in your car (few people do these days, so
it's often hard to find someone who can give you a jump if you don't have
cables handy).

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Batteries, was: Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Me too.  Back in the day it seemed batteries died gradually but now it's
sudden death in my experience.  Jumper cables are OK but you need an second,
healthy car.  What is the consensus about these Lithium-ion jump packs?
I bought a Noco Genius Boost Plus GB40 1000 Amp jump pack.  Looked nice and
I watched a glowing YouTube review.  But it failed totally when my
13-year-old AGM tractor battery quit.  That jump pack tried to crank (twice)
with almost no effect and then gave up indicating the Li-ion bat was over
the temp limit.  That jump pack started at 100% charge and still showed 50%
when it quit.  A big disappointment.
I recently bought an Audew 2000A Peak 2mAh jump pack which showed good
results (much better than Nico) on a Project Farm YouTube review.  In that
review the guy actually tested several brands.  I haven't needed it yet (and
hopefully won't) so I've no actual experience.
My Outback has a USB outlet in the cargo area which is powered when the car
is running so I leave the jump pack there, plugged in to charge.
Andrew's point about towing insurance makes more sense in urban areas, IMO.
Living in a very rural area, I prefer self-rescue vs waiting for a tow truck
or a good Samaritan (who could turn out to be a crook).
Scott


-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via Mercedes

In my experience, batteries are fine, until suddenly they are not.

They can overnight go from starting fine to not having enough juice to even
turn the engine.

If your battery is seven years old I'd advise replacing it, or at least
carrying a set of jumper cables in your car (few people do these days, so
it's often hard to find someone who can give you a jump if you don't have
cables handy).

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] This is Cool

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Remember the slant six?  It too was a "visible" model.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 8:54 AM
To: Mercedes List 
Cc: Dan Penoff 
Subject: [MBZ] This is Cool

Reminds me of the “Visible V8” model I built when I was a kid.

https://wusaill.com/collections/hot/products/4-cylinder-full-metal-car-engine-assembly-kit-model-toys-for-adults

-D


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Internet filtering

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Karl, et al., Wanted to give feedback how this turned out.  
At first, I tried to use OpenDNS which is super-simple; just point the router 
to the OpenDNS IPs.  After MUCH frustration, I discovered that Spectrum/Time 
Warner (commercial account) hijacks DNS requests (no matter how the router DNS 
is set) and points them to Time Warner servers.  It may be possible to opt out 
of this hijack situation but so far I haven't found a Spectrum tech that 
can/will opt me out. 
I had a spare Unifi Security Gateway (USG) on hand so I'm using that.  The USG 
OS (same as EdgeRouter) includes SquibGuard which does DNS filtering.  In the 
USG, SquibGuard uses SSH command line instructions, at least until the Unifi 
Controller GUI can do this (maybe not in my lifetime).  
In retrospect, an EdgeRouter would have been a better choice because the USG 
requires a Unifi Controller software patch (.json file) or the filtering setup 
won't survive provisioning cycle.  
Thanks for the help but I was boxed-in by Spectrum and the existing Unifi 
hardware and that limited my options.
Scott

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Karl
> Wittnebel via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 1:23 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Karl Wittnebel 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Internet filtering
> 
> Honestly if you read that thread I linked, it tells you all the steps. If I 
> can
> manage it, anyone can (I have zero experience with this stuff apart from 
> trying
> to run openfoam on starcluster from a linux desktop awhile back). I think I
> used Putty and just executed the commands from that thread.
> 
> Unifi mobile app and web interfaces are great/simple and give you good
> analytics. You can block individual devices. I shut my kids ipads off all the 
> time
> from work and turn them back on for school on the morning, for instance.
> 
> You can have it auto update the blacklists with a script so it persists when 
> the
> device updates itself.
> 
> Personally I like blacklisting for a church site. People can look at youtube 
> and
> fb somewhere else.
> 
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2020, 11:36 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > Kark, Thanks.  I have some studying to do.
> >
> > I will have a Unifi Security Gateway there eventually, probably after
> > when the weather cools and the attic is more bearable (need to run
> > cables).  I was hoping thr USGhelp (I mean it is a security gateway).
> > Pi-Hole sounds very promising.  The USG looked simple until I got into it.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 1:14 PM
> > > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > > Cc: Karl Wittnebel 
> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Internet filtering
> > >
> > > Here is a helpful link:
> > >
> > > https://community.ui.com/questions/HowTo-Ad-blocking-using-dnsmasq-
> d
> > > -
> > > instead-of-etc-hosts/1598a96d-28af-4f3f-ab96-97bccdb897b3#M66463
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2020, 9:39 AM Karl Wittnebel 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Get a pi hole. I run something similar at home on a unifi security
> > > > gateway:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > https://community.ui.com/questions/HowTo-Ad-blocking-using-
> dnsmasq
> > > > -d-
> > > i
> > > > nstead-of-etc-hosts/1598a96d-28af-4f3f-ab96-97bccdb897b3#M66463
> > > >
> > > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi-hole
> > > >
> > > > Anyway you can block whatever you want. E.g. facebook, youtube. It
> > > > is a scorched earth approach but it works well. You can configure
> > > > it to auto update using various lists of ad servers and then
> > > > customize
> > website lists.
> > > >
> > > > If in a church, you should post a sign that internet access is
> > > > restricted in case any docs are communicating with patients etc by
> > > > internet so they can plan to be out of reach. Not such a bad
> > > > thing, really. Just need to notify. Something like "restricted
> > > > internet
> > access only".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Aug 23, 2020, 4:59 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Only thing I can suggest is:
> > > >>
> > > >> 1.) Set up a password that’s simple a

Re: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Thanks.  I know some carbs are "drain-back" but I don't think that works with 
dual-diaphragm carbs.  I never had luck rebuilding mine so I just replace them 
too.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 7:53 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations
> 
> On Thu, September 10, 2020 2:17 am, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
> > Does Stihl have some unique carb design that prevents gum and varnish
> > formation or so gum and varnish don't matter?
> 
> They use the same Chinese carbs (ZAMA?) as everybody else.
> When it gets crudded up, the mechanic throws another one on.
> At $20-30 a pop, it's way cheaper than paying the mechanic to rebuild it, and
> rebuild kits are pretty much unobtainium for that reason.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

 Does Stihl have some unique carb design that prevents gum and varnish 
formation or so gum and varnish don't matter?

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> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
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> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 10:01 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Jaime Kopchinski 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations
> 
> 7 years ago I purchased a new Stihl chain saw.  I've used it maybe once a year
> since for storm clean up, etc.  I use ethanol fuel in it, I don't drain the 
> fuel
> between uses.  In other words, I don't go out of my way to keep it running.
> But I always mix stabilizer in with the fuel, and only use the Stihl 2 stroke 
> oil
> with it (which also has stabilizers I believe)
> 
> It starts and runs perfectly every time I use it.  No issues at all.
> They've really figured out the occasional-use small engine.  I highly
> recommend them.
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 5:09 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > In an effort to become better prepared should a large storm/hurricane
> > pass through, I am considering purchasing a chain saw.
> >
> > Since it would be something I would rarely use, I’m not looking to buy
> > a large professional grade Husqvarna or something like that necessarily.
> > However, I would like a good quality saw, not a HF sort of machine.
> >
> > Suggestions?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Brush removal

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

I never had any luck with those choker things.  Usually they just slid up 
skinning the branches.
You can bend the loader with too much asymmetric load.  Not something you want. 
 A tractor is not a bulldozer.
You can load up the draw bar all you want.  Be more cautious with the 3-point 
but it's cheaper to fix a 3-point than a loader.  If you put a cross bar 
between the 3-point lower arms it makes a decent way to lift and pull.
If you have strong roots nothing beats a ripper.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 5:15 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brush removal
> 
> I figure maybe I could use the FEL to lift up while pulling back.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:50 PM, G Mann via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >
> > I just use a log chain. It lends itself nicely to any variation of
> > plant you want to pull... I always take 3 wraps of the chain and make
> > sure the wraps overlap, then go around the pull chain and back around
> > the loops and hook the work end into the pull chain.  [hope that gives
> > you a mental picture] This forms a choker around the offending plant
> > so the harder you pull...
> > the tighter it gets...
> > If you ha*ve a hydraulic lift to give some "Up lift" to the pull...
> > the roots like to release better, I've found* *Then, you can use
> > the chain for other work...*
> >
> >> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 1:07 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> It’s a 44 HP sub compact. I have read several reviews talking about
> >> it breaking. I wonder if I could just get a regular chain and put a
> >> ring on one end to loop it thru to act as a choke as it’s pulled.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Sep 9, 2020, at 2:56 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> How big is your tractor? Might work for clumpy stuff but I don't
> >>> know
> >> about little trees with deeper roots
> >>>
> >>> And it's green so it will get lost in the weeds... why not orange or
> >> yellow?  Sometimes I wonder about these companies
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>>
>  On 9/9/20 3:43 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>  Need to pull up some small trees and groups of brush. Does this
>  look
> >> like it would work attached to the tractor? Any other ideas of what
> >> to use in conjecture with a tractor to remove unwanted shrubs and small
> trees?
> 
>  https://www.amazon.com/Brush-Grubber-BG-19-Heavy-
> Clump/dp/B002PHVIT
>  S
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Living in the Panhandle, I had to cut my way out to the road more than once.  
Electric chain saws are great for occasional light use but not for hurricanes, 
even if you have power and a fast charger.  
A consumer gas saw (like Poulan Pro/Wild Thing) should be fine for emergency 
hurricane use but completely drain fuel and run the carb dry before storing.  
Also, get a chain file and learn how to touch up the chain.  Just a few strokes 
with the file can make a world of difference in cutting speed.  A spare chain 
is not a bad idea; you will likely need it eventually.  You can store 2-cycle 
oil a long time but the gas must be fresh.  Almost all chain saw no-start and 
hard-start problems are caused by stale fuel left in the saw.  Carbs are 
inexpensive and easy to replace but that won't help immediately after a 
hurricane unless you pre-ordere a spare.  

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
> Penoff via Mercedes
> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2020 5:08 PM
> To: Mercedes List 
> Cc: Dan Penoff 
> Subject: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations
> 
> In an effort to become better prepared should a large storm/hurricane pass
> through, I am considering purchasing a chain saw.
> 
> Since it would be something I would rarely use, I’m not looking to buy a large
> professional grade Husqvarna or something like that necessarily. However, I
> would like a good quality saw, not a HF sort of machine.
> 
> Suggestions?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Sharpening a lopper

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

I use a file. The lopper blade metal is surprisingly soft.

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> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2020 8:38 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
> Subject: [MBZ] OT: Sharpening a lopper
> 
> I have a good quality lopper that easily cuts branches up to 1.5" but the 
> blades
> have become dull.  Is there a specific sharpening tool for this?
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Re: [MBZ] New S-class. Looks like a Hyundai

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One of the main things I like about the classic (123/124/126 pre 90s) models is 
they avoided unnecessary complication.  For example, the passenger-side mirror 
was electric but not the driver side because you can reach to adjust it 
manually.  They are maintainable and also indefinitely repairable (if parts 
available) unless they rust out.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2020 11:24 AM
To: Mercedes List 
Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
Subject: [MBZ] New S-class. Looks like a Hyundai

And in order to drive it you can’t shave for 3 days

And if you ride in the back you have to look like Nancy Pelosi 

https://youtu.be/-4zsY28t76k

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] The rental house AC

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Just for grins, have you tried cycling the circuit breakers?  There should be 
two 2-pole breakers (one for air handler and one for condenser).

When I returned about noon one day my new Carrier heat pump was making a loud 
banging noise and was not producing heat.  Cycling the breaker fixed it.  I 
left it off for 5-10 min.

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> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2020 5:26 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The rental house AC
> 
> They said they were ordering a new one from Trane. Hopefully that is what
> happens. I’m still wondering if the fan quit working and it burned up the
> compressor. You would think they would habe checked that because it’s not
> like compressor kicks on then shuts off later if pressure gets too high. It 
> just
> does not kick on at all.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Sep 2, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >
> > Make sure they replace it with a real fan and not a cheapo "rescue" motor.
> >
> > I was away once and the fan motor went out (this is the condenser cooling
> fan) and the guy came and put in a new one, was like $500, my wife paid him.
> Fan goes out again less than a year later, I call the guy, he comes out and 
> finds
> a rescue motor instead of the real deal.  So I tell him we paid like $500 for 
> this,
> why is it a substandard unit?  He hems and haws and tells me he can put in the
> right motor but he'll have to charge me $75 for a visit. I tell him how about 
> you
> do what your guy was supposed to have done, and you charged us for, and I
> won't see you in court.  He got all pissy but put in the right motor.  His 
> wife,
> who ran the books, called me 2-3 times wanting the $75 and I told her to
> bugger off, she finally stopped calling.
> >
> > Turns out his guy was doing this to everyone, billing for the real motor but
> putting in a cheapo and pocketing the cash.  He got fired but the business
> owner was still trying to charge me for his guy's fraud, probably everyone 
> else
> too, to get a little back on what he was screwed out of.  Go figure.
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >> On 9/2/20 4:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Inside unit comes on but outside unit doesn’t. When it’s turned on you hear
> a semi loud click. That sound was the contactor pulling in. Put in a service
> request with the warranty people. They came out today. Fan was bad,
> ordering a new one. I guess if the fan is bad it prevents the unit from 
> kicking on
> so it doesn’t burn up the compressor?
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] The rental house AC

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Your existing air handler coil may not be compatible with R410a, which runs at 
higher pressures.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2020 7:41 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The rental house AC
> 
> This is a 15 year old simple R22 unit. If the compressor is bad I am not sure 
> it
> would be cost effective for them to try and replace that rather than just
> replacing the whole unit. But as long as it works I don’t really care
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Sep 2, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like the repair guts didn't really troubleshoot so the fix will take
> several return trips until they finally replace the right part(s).
> > Often, the same capacitor (dual unit) supports the fan and compressor and
> capacitors do fail.  Fan motor failure is not unusual after, maybe, 10 years 
> but
> the compressor should start up anyway as soon as it sees 24v on the "Y" wire
> (unless it's in timeout, typical for 5 min after shutdown).
> > Most units have low and high pressure cutout switches (a possible problem
> source too).  The high pressure cutout is immediate but the compressor and
> fan should run for a couple minutes before they shut down for low pressure.
> > If the compressor is bad the fix is a difficult and costly but less than 
> > replacing
> the whole condenser.
> > The old (on or off) style units are pretty simple and most parts are generic
> except the control board.  But there are newer inverter (variable speed) and
> dual speed types that have unique parts and designs.
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2020 5:26 PM
> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The rental house AC
> >>
> >> They said they were ordering a new one from Trane. Hopefully that is
> >> what happens. I’m still wondering if the fan quit working and it
> >> burned up the compressor. You would think they would habe checked
> >> that because it’s not like compressor kicks on then shuts off later
> >> if pressure gets too high. It just does not kick on at all.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Sep 2, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Make sure they replace it with a real fan and not a cheapo "rescue" 
> >>> motor.
> >>>
> >>> I was away once and the fan motor went out (this is the condenser
> >>> cooling
> >> fan) and the guy came and put in a new one, was like $500, my wife paid
> him.
> >> Fan goes out again less than a year later, I call the guy, he comes
> >> out and finds a rescue motor instead of the real deal.  So I tell him
> >> we paid like $500 for this, why is it a substandard unit?  He hems
> >> and haws and tells me he can put in the right motor but he'll have to
> >> charge me $75 for a visit. I tell him how about you do what your guy
> >> was supposed to have done, and you charged us for, and I won't see
> >> you in court.  He got all pissy but put in the right motor.  His
> >> wife, who ran the books, called me 2-3 times wanting the $75 and I told her
> to bugger off, she finally stopped calling.
> >>>
> >>> Turns out his guy was doing this to everyone, billing for the real
> >>> motor but
> >> putting in a cheapo and pocketing the cash.  He got fired but the
> >> business owner was still trying to charge me for his guy's fraud,
> >> probably everyone else too, to get a little back on what he was screwed out
> of.  Go figure.
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>>
> >>>> On 9/2/20 4:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >>>> Inside unit comes on but outside unit doesn’t. When it’s turned on
> >>>> you hear
> >> a semi loud click. That sound was the contactor pulling in. Put in a
> >> service request with the warranty people. They came out today. Fan
> >> was bad, ordering a new one. I guess if the fan is bad it prevents
> >> the unit from kicking on so it doesn’t burn up the compressor?
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>
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Re: [MBZ] The rental house AC

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Sounds like the repair guts didn't really troubleshoot so the fix will take 
several return trips until they finally replace the right part(s).
Often, the same capacitor (dual unit) supports the fan and compressor and 
capacitors do fail.  Fan motor failure is not unusual after, maybe, 10 years 
but the compressor should start up anyway as soon as it sees 24v on the "Y" 
wire (unless it's in timeout, typical for 5 min after shutdown).  
Most units have low and high pressure cutout switches (a possible problem 
source too).  The high pressure cutout is immediate but the compressor and fan 
should run for a couple minutes before they shut down for low pressure.
If the compressor is bad the fix is a difficult and costly but less than 
replacing the whole condenser.
The old (on or off) style units are pretty simple and most parts are generic 
except the control board.  But there are newer inverter (variable speed) and 
dual speed types that have unique parts and designs.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2020 5:26 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The rental house AC
> 
> They said they were ordering a new one from Trane. Hopefully that is what
> happens. I’m still wondering if the fan quit working and it burned up the
> compressor. You would think they would habe checked that because it’s not
> like compressor kicks on then shuts off later if pressure gets too high. It 
> just
> does not kick on at all.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Sep 2, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >
> > Make sure they replace it with a real fan and not a cheapo "rescue" motor.
> >
> > I was away once and the fan motor went out (this is the condenser cooling
> fan) and the guy came and put in a new one, was like $500, my wife paid him.
> Fan goes out again less than a year later, I call the guy, he comes out and 
> finds
> a rescue motor instead of the real deal.  So I tell him we paid like $500 for 
> this,
> why is it a substandard unit?  He hems and haws and tells me he can put in the
> right motor but he'll have to charge me $75 for a visit. I tell him how about 
> you
> do what your guy was supposed to have done, and you charged us for, and I
> won't see you in court.  He got all pissy but put in the right motor.  His 
> wife,
> who ran the books, called me 2-3 times wanting the $75 and I told her to
> bugger off, she finally stopped calling.
> >
> > Turns out his guy was doing this to everyone, billing for the real motor but
> putting in a cheapo and pocketing the cash.  He got fired but the business
> owner was still trying to charge me for his guy's fraud, probably everyone 
> else
> too, to get a little back on what he was screwed out of.  Go figure.
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >> On 9/2/20 4:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Inside unit comes on but outside unit doesn’t. When it’s turned on you hear
> a semi loud click. That sound was the contactor pulling in. Put in a service
> request with the warranty people. They came out today. Fan was bad,
> ordering a new one. I guess if the fan is bad it prevents the unit from 
> kicking on
> so it doesn’t burn up the compressor?
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Internet filtering

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Karl, Thanks again.  I have a USG at home so I can use it to check this out 
when I get some time.  Sounds perfect.  

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Karl
> Wittnebel via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 1:23 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Karl Wittnebel 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Internet filtering
> 
> Honestly if you read that thread I linked, it tells you all the steps. If I 
> can
> manage it, anyone can (I have zero experience with this stuff apart from 
> trying
> to run openfoam on starcluster from a linux desktop awhile back). I think I
> used Putty and just executed the commands from that thread.
> 
> Unifi mobile app and web interfaces are great/simple and give you good
> analytics. You can block individual devices. I shut my kids ipads off all the 
> time
> from work and turn them back on for school on the morning, for instance.
> 
> You can have it auto update the blacklists with a script so it persists when 
> the
> device updates itself.
> 
> Personally I like blacklisting for a church site. People can look at youtube 
> and
> fb somewhere else.
> 
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2020, 11:36 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > Kark, Thanks.  I have some studying to do.
> >
> > I will have a Unifi Security Gateway there eventually, probably after
> > when the weather cools and the attic is more bearable (need to run
> > cables).  I was hoping thr USGhelp (I mean it is a security gateway).
> > Pi-Hole sounds very promising.  The USG looked simple until I got into it.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 1:14 PM
> > > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > > Cc: Karl Wittnebel 
> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Internet filtering
> > >
> > > Here is a helpful link:
> > >
> > > https://community.ui.com/questions/HowTo-Ad-blocking-using-dnsmasq-
> d
> > > -
> > > instead-of-etc-hosts/1598a96d-28af-4f3f-ab96-97bccdb897b3#M66463
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2020, 9:39 AM Karl Wittnebel 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Get a pi hole. I run something similar at home on a unifi security
> > > > gateway:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > https://community.ui.com/questions/HowTo-Ad-blocking-using-
> dnsmasq
> > > > -d-
> > > i
> > > > nstead-of-etc-hosts/1598a96d-28af-4f3f-ab96-97bccdb897b3#M66463
> > > >
> > > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi-hole
> > > >
> > > > Anyway you can block whatever you want. E.g. facebook, youtube. It
> > > > is a scorched earth approach but it works well. You can configure
> > > > it to auto update using various lists of ad servers and then
> > > > customize
> > website lists.
> > > >
> > > > If in a church, you should post a sign that internet access is
> > > > restricted in case any docs are communicating with patients etc by
> > > > internet so they can plan to be out of reach. Not such a bad
> > > > thing, really. Just need to notify. Something like "restricted
> > > > internet
> > access only".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Aug 23, 2020, 4:59 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Only thing I can suggest is:
> > > >>
> > > >> 1.) Set up a password that’s simple and tell the congregation
> > > >> what it is; or,
> > > >>
> > > >> 2.) Get a consumer grade router in line with the existing access
> > > >> point and use it’s parental controls feature to filter.
> > > >>
> > > >> I’ve got an Asus router I use for my internal network and it’s
> > > >> got parental controls and filtering available as an option.
> > > >>
> > > >> -D
> > > >>
> > > >> > On Aug 23, 2020, at 2:38 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> > > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The school's hot spot is on their own LAN, not my problem.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > There are many functions other than church services, typically
> > > >> > in the
>

Re: [MBZ] OT: Internet filtering

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Kark, Thanks.  I have some studying to do.

I will have a Unifi Security Gateway there eventually, probably after when the 
weather cools and the attic is more bearable (need to run cables).  I was 
hoping thr USGhelp (I mean it is a security gateway).  Pi-Hole sounds very 
promising.  The USG looked simple until I got into it.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Karl
> Wittnebel via Mercedes
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 1:14 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Karl Wittnebel 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Internet filtering
> 
> Here is a helpful link:
> 
> https://community.ui.com/questions/HowTo-Ad-blocking-using-dnsmasq-d-
> instead-of-etc-hosts/1598a96d-28af-4f3f-ab96-97bccdb897b3#M66463
> 
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2020, 9:39 AM Karl Wittnebel 
> wrote:
> 
> > Get a pi hole. I run something similar at home on a unifi security
> > gateway:
> >
> >
> > https://community.ui.com/questions/HowTo-Ad-blocking-using-dnsmasq-d-
> i
> > nstead-of-etc-hosts/1598a96d-28af-4f3f-ab96-97bccdb897b3#M66463
> >
> > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi-hole
> >
> > Anyway you can block whatever you want. E.g. facebook, youtube. It is
> > a scorched earth approach but it works well. You can configure it to
> > auto update using various lists of ad servers and then customize website 
> > lists.
> >
> > If in a church, you should post a sign that internet access is
> > restricted in case any docs are communicating with patients etc by
> > internet so they can plan to be out of reach. Not such a bad thing,
> > really. Just need to notify. Something like "restricted internet access 
> > only".
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 23, 2020, 4:59 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Only thing I can suggest is:
> >>
> >> 1.) Set up a password that’s simple and tell the congregation what it
> >> is; or,
> >>
> >> 2.) Get a consumer grade router in line with the existing access
> >> point and use it’s parental controls feature to filter.
> >>
> >> I’ve got an Asus router I use for my internal network and it’s got
> >> parental controls and filtering available as an option.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >> > On Aug 23, 2020, at 2:38 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > The school's hot spot is on their own LAN, not my problem.
> >> >
> >> > There are many functions other than church services, typically in
> >> > the
> >> fellowship hall (church meetings, parties, weddings/funerals,
> >> men/women/senior groups, etc.) where folks want their cell phones to
> work.
> >> If they don't connect to the Wi-Fi those cell phone batteries go down
> >> fast as the phones try to ping a tower transmitting at max power.
> >> >
> >> > I could add a password but then would need tell everyone.
> >> >
> >> > I already configured OpenDNS but still looking for something
> >> > better.  I
> >> plan to install a Unifi Security Gateway so I'm looking for a way to
> >> use that.  There are many consumer routers that could be adapted and
> >> security appliances (without routing), like Circle.  Still looking.
> >> >
> >> >> -Original Message-
> >> >> From:  Allan Streib via Mercedes
> >> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Internet filtering
> >> >>
> >> >> Ask the school what they do.
> >> >>
> >> >> Ideally the school hot spot will be on the school network via a VPN.
> >> >>
> >> >> As far as accessing the passwordless guest network, you have that
> >> problem
> >> >> regardless. I'd suggest putting a password on it, or maybe setting
> >> >> up
> >> a captive
> >> >> portal like at a hotel. Depends how much you really want to manage it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Anyway, who is using their cell phone during church?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Scott Ritchey via Mercedes  writes:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Our church LAN has a “guest” SSID that does not require a password.
> >> This
> >> >> guest SSID is very helpful for cell phones because the aluminum
> >> >> siding
> >> blocks
> >> >> regular cell signals.  So far, this was not a problem because we
&

Re: [MBZ] OT: Internet filtering

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

The school's hot spot is on their own LAN, not my problem.

There are many functions other than church services, typically in the 
fellowship hall (church meetings, parties, weddings/funerals, men/women/senior 
groups, etc.) where folks want their cell phones to work.  If they don't 
connect to the Wi-Fi those cell phone batteries go down fast as the phones try 
to ping a tower transmitting at max power.  

I could add a password but then would need tell everyone.

I already configured OpenDNS but still looking for something better.  I plan to 
install a Unifi Security Gateway so I'm looking for a way to use that.  There 
are many consumer routers that could be adapted and security appliances 
(without routing), like Circle.  Still looking.

> -Original Message-
> From:  Allan Streib via Mercedes
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Internet filtering
> 
> Ask the school what they do.
> 
> Ideally the school hot spot will be on the school network via a VPN.
> 
> As far as accessing the passwordless guest network, you have that problem
> regardless. I'd suggest putting a password on it, or maybe setting up a 
> captive
> portal like at a hotel. Depends how much you really want to manage it.
> 
> Anyway, who is using their cell phone during church?
> 
> 
> Scott Ritchey via Mercedes  writes:
> 
> > Our church LAN has a “guest” SSID that does not require a password.  This
> guest SSID is very helpful for cell phones because the aluminum siding blocks
> regular cell signals.  So far, this was not a problem because we had few
> “outsiders.”  Our ISP provider (Time-Warner/Spectrum) provides an ARRIS
> DG1670a modem/router, which does not appear to have any useful “parental
> controls.”
> >
> > Soon we will be a “hot spot” where school children can come to our parking
> lot to download school materials (if they don’t have high-speed internet at
> home).  The school system provides the hot spot equipment but visitors will
> also see our church Wi-Fi on their devices.
> >
> > I want to avoid the situation where school kids (or others) access
> inappropriate sites, particularly on the church LAN.  OpenDNS offers some
> filtering but only for “new” DNS requests and it doesn’t block anonymizers
> (like Tor).
> >
> > I know there is much computer expertise on this site so I thought I’d ask 
> > for
> recommendations.
> >
> > Cheers, Scott
> >
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[MBZ] OT: Internet filtering

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Our church LAN has a “guest” SSID that does not require a password.  This guest 
SSID is very helpful for cell phones because the aluminum siding blocks regular 
cell signals.  So far, this was not a problem because we had few “outsiders.”  
Our ISP provider (Time-Warner/Spectrum) provides an ARRIS DG1670a modem/router, 
which does not appear to have any useful “parental controls.”

Soon we will be a “hot spot” where school children can come to our parking lot 
to download school materials (if they don’t have high-speed internet at home).  
The school system provides the hot spot equipment but visitors will also see 
our church Wi-Fi on their devices.  

I want to avoid the situation where school kids (or others) access 
inappropriate sites, particularly on the church LAN.  OpenDNS offers some 
filtering but only for “new” DNS requests and it doesn’t block anonymizers 
(like Tor).  

I know there is much computer expertise on this site so I thought I’d ask for 
recommendations.

Cheers, Scott

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Re: [MBZ] Insurance

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

I would call USAA first and ask why the increase.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 10:09 PM
> To: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> Subject: [MBZ] Insurance
> 
> I have all of my insurance thru USAA, 2 houses, 4-5 cars etc. The insurance 
> for
> our primary house is escrowed and I have not checked on it in a while.  At one
> point both houses were around the same amount per year, low to mid $2k
> range.  I just checked the policy online and was shocked I am now being
> charged over $4k for the main house now.  The rental is still around
> $2.5k.  This seems out of control and has now prompted me to start shopping.
> Anybody have a recommendation for homeowners insurance and/or auto?  I
> always thought USAA was the cheapest as well as the best.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT lightning hit

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I think we were preoccupied by fear before the lightning strike.  It was almost 
dark, even at midday, the wind was very loud, the raindrops actually hurt, and 
we had no visual references..  The excitement was really in retrospect.  The 
"bang" was really loud and I think it stunned us, like a "flash-bang" grenade.  
We only realized what happened after the fact when we regained our senses.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 7:37 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT lightning hit

Wow, that must have been *exciting*

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Aug 20, 2020, at 12:03 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My most exciting (and odd) lightning encounter was in a 30 ft. sail boat 
> returning from the Destin inlet.  A storm came up suddenly so we motored 
> under full power into the wind (under bare poles).  The rain was so dense we 
> could not even see the bow so we steered by compass. The flash and bang were 
> simultaneous.  Folks in the cockpit pointed forward at the very close 
> lightning strike.  Folks in the cabin pointed aft, also at a very close 
> strike.  Either there were two simultaneous lightning bolts or one bolt split 
> and hit in front and behind us.  I remembered the hair on my arms standing up 
> just before the lightning strike.  As the rain abated we saw we had been 
> blown backwards about 1/4 mile despite using full power.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT lightning hit

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

My most exciting (and odd) lightning encounter was in a 30 ft. sail boat 
returning from the Destin inlet.  A storm came up suddenly so we motored under 
full power into the wind (under bare poles).  The rain was so dense we could 
not even see the bow so we steered by compass. The flash and bang were 
simultaneous.  Folks in the cockpit pointed forward at the very close lightning 
strike.  Folks in the cabin pointed aft, also at a very close strike.  Either 
there were two simultaneous lightning bolts or one bolt split and hit in front 
and behind us.  I remembered the hair on my arms standing up just before the 
lightning strike.  As the rain abated we saw we had been blown backwards about 
1/4 mile despite using full power.


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Re: [MBZ] Opinions needed on flooring

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I'm probably a dinosaur but I'll go with vinyl (over ceramic tile) every
time for kitchens and bathrooms.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of G Mann via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 4:01 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: G Mann 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opinions needed on flooring

If you are building a new house for yourself, bathrooms and laundry rooms..
kitchen sink areas, use marine grade 5 ply plywood... it is made to be
exposed to water and will hold up years longer than particle board flooring
underlayment.

Since the Kaleb rent house has a history of soft water damaged particle
boards in those areas... rip it out and install marine grade plywood... you
have broken tile because the particle board got wet and went soft.. floor
flexed,, tiles broke..

While the floor is open to the floor joists get fans running to dry the
joists, and re-route AC condensate drains OUT of the area AC condensate
drains always plug up internally with algae, then the drains back up, leak,
and make water damage..Run them OUTSIDE the foundation and make them so you
can run a drain snake up them at least once a year to clear the algae
buildup...
You aren't going to run AC in the winter, so draining to outside the
foundation will be OK..

On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 12:48 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On Mon, August 10, 2020 10:10 am, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> > When they installed the tile in this house when it was built they 
> > apparently installed it directly on the osb subfloor. As a result we 
> > have had tiles thru the entire house crack over the years.
>
> It varies with tile size (bigger tiles require stiffer subfloor) but 
> IIRC you need about 5/4 inch of wood to support tile without cementboard.
>
> How thick is it, 3/4, 25/32, 1 1/8?
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Re: [MBZ] 210 rear wheel bearings

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

"Does it change when you turn to the left or to the right, i.e., load/unload 
the right/left side?"

This was the most useful test to identify a bad rear wheel bearing in my 
Outback.  Also (being a station wagon) I was able to crawl back there and 
listen while someone else drove

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Craig via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 4:01 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Craig 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 210 rear wheel bearings

On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 15:34:35 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

> I might have mentioned or asked this before. The rear end of the
> $600E320 is howling. Increases with speed. I changed the diff fluid 
> but that didn’t make a difference. So I’m guessing it must be the 
> wheel bearings or could it be in the axles?

It could also be the diff pinion bearings.

Does it change when you turn to the left or to the right, i.e., load/unload the 
right/left side?


Crai

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Re: [MBZ] Dog smell

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Dilute vinegar is useful for urine smell (the acid attacks the proteins in 
urine).  There are also several commercial enzyme preparations.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2020 5:42 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dog smell
> 
> On Sat, August 8, 2020 5:31 pm, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> > The carpet is out and it's down to the concrete and still stinks
> > horribly bad.
> >
> 
> Concrete opens up possibilities unless I'm mistaken.
> Wouldn't want to acid wash it, but mopping with bleach or peroxide and water
> and letting it sit a while shouldn't hurt it. Once the floor's clean, maybe 
> ozone
> for the walls/ceiling?
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Re: [MBZ] Wilton: How are you doing?

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Some observations:  It's cheaper to cool (AC) than to heat.  If your state (or 
city) is broke and deep in debt someone's going to be left holding the bag; 
better if it's not you.  If LOEs cannot maintain order (because LEOs are too 
few or criminals are too numerous or traitor politicians still need to be 
guillotined) you need to leave.  If fixed costs (groceries, shelter, energy, 
utilities, taxes, etc.) consume nearly all of your income you did something 
wrong.
Scott

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 3:09 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
wrote:

> We've had a normal-to-cool summer here so far. Got down to 52 last 
> night, unheard of for August. Wonderful sleeping weather. Haven't run 
> the AC since last weekend.
>
> The worst of the hot/humid summer days here can be unpleasant to be 
> sure. But I like having a distinct Spring, Summer, Fall, and Winter. 
> By the time you get sick of the heat (or cold), the season changes. At 
> the same time, none of it is really extreme.
>
> Allan
>


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Re: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun?

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I'd advise the 2KW inverter style; quiet, fuel-efficient, and 4-cycle (straight 
gasoline, no oil mix).  The $450 unit from Harbor Freight is quite good 
although routine servicing requires tools.  HF requires adding a fuel 
stabilizer, a good idea if you want it to work when you need it.

> Mitch Haley said
> 
> On Sat, August 1, 2020 1:50 am, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
> >  A small generator that can run
> > the refrigerator, a fan, and a couple light bulbs can make things
> > infinitely more tolerable while camping in the house.
> 
> When gasoline supplies are limited, a 850-1200W micro, or a 2000W variable
> speed inverter generator, can be far superior to a 5-7kW generator when it
> comes to keeping your food cold and lighting a room.
> 
> My well is 240v, so if I want water I need at least a 3.5kW with 240V. My 
> usual
> method is to run it about 3 hours on, 3 hours off, and it's off about 6 hours
> straight while I sleep. In a five day power failure, the stuff in my chest 
> freezer
> gets freezer burn, probably from the overnight off cycles.
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Re: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun?

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Poor is relative.  The US poverty level income is five times the global median 
income.  It seems poor people in the US today have more/better stuff (food, 
clothes, cars, TVs, shelter, etc.) than my upper middle class family had in the 
50s.

> -Original Message-
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> Cathey via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2020 3:45 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Jim Cathey ; fmiser 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun?
> 
> > The poor will always be with us,
> 
> And that, literally, _is_ the gospel truth!
> 
> -- Jim
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun?

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

The only time I thought hurricanes might be fun was when I was in a disaster 
control role.  In the victim role they were not fun, ever, for me.  
I lived 4 years on the TX gulf coast and 19 years on the FL gulf coast, almost 
all "on the water."  The rule of thumb is hide from the wind and run from the 
water.  It's a good rule.
The worst place to be in a hurricane is stuck in bumper-to-bumper traffic 
trying to evacuate.  Evacuate early or not at all.  The next worst place is an 
official shelter;  these are simply structures that can probably stand the wind 
and probably won't flood.  There is generally no food, water, or creature 
comforts and you co-evacuees may kill you for a candy bar.  
Home is probably best if it's above the storm surge if winds are 100 MPH or 
less.  Cell phones and old-style land lines may work but a battery AM/FM radio 
is the most reliable source of information.  
A small generator that can run the refrigerator, a fan, and a couple light 
bulbs can make things infinitely more tolerable while camping in the house.  
The power company crews (many from out-of-state are real heroes.  
If your structure won't survive the expected wind or you are likely to be 
flooded get out; have a motel (or relatives) reservation before leaving home; 
they fill up fast.  Some motels will take small pets; research that long before 
you need to know.
How "bad:" a storm is for residents depends on intensity (bad) and speed 
(good).  
The only time we evacuated was Opal in 1995.  Opal had been a stationary Cat 1 
storm in the Bay of Campeche (Mexico) when we went to bed.  When I rechecked at 
0500 the next morning it had suddenly sprinted for our area with a predicted 
landfall that afternoon at Cat 3 strength.  The actual Landfall was 10 miles 
west of our location (putting us in bad quadrant).  With no real planning we 
put out water and food for the pets, grabbed the go-bag, and left at first 
light.  Soon I-10 became total gridlock so we took the very next exit (which 
required two more hours) and SWMBO navigated secondary roads to Albany GA, 
where we spent the next two days.  When we returned, the house was intact (even 
though nothing had been boarded up) but my boat (a Columbia 8.7) was on the 
bottom.  Many trees were down, and fences flattened, docks pulled up, and the 
receding water left many tons of other debris (no bodies, thankfully).  Living 
without power was uncomfortable and it took me several weeks to cleanup (I was 
much younger then).
Lessons: keep vehicles fueled.  Have cash. Have a bugout location in hip 
pocket.  Don't let the cupboard get bare.  Observe generator safety-especially 
monoxide and gasoline.  Secure lose outdoor items.  Protect vulnerable windows.
Scott
.
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 7:04 PM
> To: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> Subject: [MBZ] Are Hurricanes fun?
> 
> Asking for a friend.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes 123 Console Window Switches

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Good job.  Those switches are vulnerable to anything spilled on the console 
(traditionally, Germans don't eat in cars but Americans do).  Plus there are 
decades of dust and corrosion.  Switches are mechanically simple (EZ repair if 
plastic not brittle) but springs make assembly a bit tricky.  

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Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 11:38 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Rdeafboy 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes 123 Console Window Switches


I took apart the window switches learning from Youtube ...Really easy to do and 
my switches are like new . Had 4 of them and did them all .I didn't bother with 
the child lock since I don't use it . Definite new "Click" to the switch  
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Re: [MBZ] Covid 19 Mystery

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Can we believe the numbers?  For example the 300 Florida testing stations
that reported 100% positive COVID results (later found to be less than 10%)?
Or the young man who died in a motorcycle accident (and apparently not sick)
who was counted as a COVID death because his corpse tested positive?  Both
of these were uncovered by a local TV station but how many so-called
journalists are actually curious enough to validate what they pass on?  And
even if individual journalists were curious would their editors bury any
story that doesn't support the "party line"?  Back in the day I believed
what I read/saw in the major media because management and editors were
committed to the truth.  That clearly is no longer the case.  Sad.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Frederick Moir via Mercedes

The question that I keep coming back to is:- show me the numbers!
For example. Just how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? And what
music will be playing?
Apologies to anyone that I may offend.

--
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Britain's next fighter jet?

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

"It uses a nitrogen air battery that recharges while in flight."

I'd like to see how that this works.  Nitrogen gas is all but inert.  Many 
Nitrogen compounds are, well, unstable.



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Re: [MBZ] Real info about covid

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Here's what I use:
https://www.4kdownload.com/products/product-videodownloader

Not hard to use.  Gives choice of available resolutions. Works for YouTube and 
Facebook and probably any other platform.

We live stream church services to Facebook using a Mevo.  Later, I download in 
high and low resolution (for folks with a slow connection) and post on our own 
site.
-

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of OK Don via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 1:56 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: OK Don 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Real info about covid

So, how do you download youtube videos?



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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Samsung refrigerators

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

They hook up like a regular dishwasher but may need more power (esp Hi temp), 
probably 220/240v.  
They are not cheap new (like $1-3K).  For example:
https://www.katom.com/027-DSP4DPS.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjw6ar4BRDnARIsAITGzlDW7vc3Rf-WwSl0vdH2dJ30ItumZPtpnnMz2B66_h1iaNRE3M9Vj5kaAsuyEALw_wcB
 

Not ideal for home use, IMO.  Price aside, they are not quiet and many racks 
are designed for glasses or plates (not both) and some only handle one rack.  
So they are great for speed and high volume in a noisy kitchen but have 
drawbacks for home use.


> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 10:02 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Samsung refrigerators
> 
> How do you hook one of those up in your house?  That would be
> interesting.  So restaurants go out of business so they probably file 
> bankruptcy
> on that business, then start a new business and buy their old equipment for
> pennies on the dollar?  That is the American way isn't?
> 
> On 7/12/2020 8:12 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
> > Faster than that, like 1 min per rack.  And the whole rack (usually 
> > plastic) lifts
> out to carry the clean load to the shelves or pre-load for the next cycle.  
> There
> are warm water and hot water vesions.  The warm water version requires a
> disinfectant.  The hot water types are so hot that no additive is needed but
> they put out a LOT of steam.
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
> >> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 3:06 PM
> >> To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' 
> >> Cc: Greg Fiorentino 
> >> Subject: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Samsung refrigerators
> >>
> >> I think the only fast dishwashers today are commercial ones. My
> >> cousin is in the restaurant biz and often attends the frequent going
> >> out of business auctions. At one of these he bought a bunch of
> >> commercial dishwashers that complete the cycle in 15-20 min. He has
> >> one in his home. I went along on one of these trips and learned some
> >> interesting stuff, like that some of the stuff was being purchased by
> >> the principals of the restaurants that went out of business, going into a 
> >> new
> business.
> >>
> >> Greg
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 11:05 AM
> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> >> Cc: Kaleb Striplin
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Samsung refrigerators
> >>
> >> I think all dishwashers these days take that long or longer due to
> >> conservation etc. We had a fairly recent Maytag that we bought 5
> >> years ago they took 3-4 hours on the heavy duty cycle. The Bosch we
> >> have now takes a little under 3 hours on heavy duty.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jul 12, 2020, at 12:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>> On the subject of dishwashers, our beloved 2006 KithcenAid is
> >>> acting like it will give up the ghost any day soon.  Makes an
> >>> embarrassingly loud noise during its cycle, although the dishes still 
> >>> emerge
> sparklingly clean.
> >>>
> >>> Price on a comparable replacement KitchenAid has risen to $850 and
> >>> up, so I have been looking at Bosch, Samsung, GE and Whirlpool
> >>> models with a third rack that are in my price range.
> >>>
> >>> Had a Bosch dw in the old house and it was very quiet but the cycle
> >>> took 2+ hours which is way too long.  Don't know if they have solved
> >>> that problem by now.  Samsung has the best features but I have heard
> >>> some
> >> bad things.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 1:33 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I've never had great luck with ice makers. Mostly they clog up and
> >>>> stop working. The ice maker in my GE started leaking, ruined the
> >>>> floor and stained the ceiling below before I noticed it. That was
> >>>> about a year after the in-door water dispenser quit. Design flaw,
> >>>> they routed the water line too close to

Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Samsung refrigerators

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Faster than that, like 1 min per rack.  And the whole rack (usually plastic) 
lifts out to carry the clean load to the shelves or pre-load for the next 
cycle.  There are warm water and hot water vesions.  The warm water version 
requires a disinfectant.  The hot water types are so hot that no additive is 
needed but they put out a LOT of steam.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 3:06 PM
> To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' 
> Cc: Greg Fiorentino 
> Subject: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Samsung refrigerators
> 
> I think the only fast dishwashers today are commercial ones. My cousin is in
> the restaurant biz and often attends the frequent going out of business
> auctions. At one of these he bought a bunch of commercial dishwashers that
> complete the cycle in 15-20 min. He has one in his home. I went along on one
> of these trips and learned some interesting stuff, like that some of the stuff
> was being purchased by the principals of the restaurants that went out of
> business, going into a new business.
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 11:05 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Samsung refrigerators
> 
> I think all dishwashers these days take that long or longer due to 
> conservation
> etc. We had a fairly recent Maytag that we bought 5 years ago they took 3-4
> hours on the heavy duty cycle. The Bosch we have now takes a little under 3
> hours on heavy duty.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jul 12, 2020, at 12:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >
> > On the subject of dishwashers, our beloved 2006 KithcenAid is acting
> > like it will give up the ghost any day soon.  Makes an embarrassingly
> > loud noise during its cycle, although the dishes still emerge sparklingly 
> > clean.
> >
> > Price on a comparable replacement KitchenAid has risen to $850 and up,
> > so I have been looking at Bosch, Samsung, GE and Whirlpool models with
> > a third rack that are in my price range.
> >
> > Had a Bosch dw in the old house and it was very quiet but the cycle
> > took 2+ hours which is way too long.  Don't know if they have solved
> > that problem by now.  Samsung has the best features but I have heard some
> bad things.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 1:33 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I've never had great luck with ice makers. Mostly they clog up and
> >> stop working. The ice maker in my GE started leaking, ruined the
> >> floor and stained the ceiling below before I noticed it. That was
> >> about a year after the in-door water dispenser quit. Design flaw,
> >> they routed the water line too close to the interior and it is prone to
> freezing up.
> >>
> >> Allan
> >>
> >> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:
> >>
> >>> I have one like that too. Bottom ice maker quit working, called
> >>> repair (I bought extended warranty from Lowes), guy came and changed
> >>> the filler tube, which froze and burst. some cheap plastic bit.
> >>> Bottom ice maker works when it wants to, has been working OK for the
> >>> last few months but doesn't put out like it should. I have to
> >>> occasionally reset it when it quits cycling. So far temps have been
> >>> OK. Repair guy told me that most new fridges are PsOS due to energy
> >>> savings issues, the motors run full out when they run, and they
> >>> cycle more often, which burns them out more frequently than the old
> >>> ones that were big and just ran.
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>>
> >>> On 7/12/20 11:08 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>  Avoid Samsung refrigerators. They are piles of crap. We bought a
>  new expensive french door model back in around 2017. The reason we
>  went with this model was because it had an ice maker in the door
>  and one in the bottom freezer. At first everything was fine but
>  within a short time the top ice maker turned into a pile of junk.
>  It constantly freezes up with big chunks of ice and gets jammed.
>  90% of the time it does not work unless you thaw it out then it
>  will work for a day or 2 maybe. Bottom ice maker has always worked fine.
> 
>  I am sitting here in my chair in the living room which is just
>  right behind the refrigerator on the other side of the wall (open
>  floor plan), heard some sort of different noise coming from the
>  kitchen. I did not think much about it. Just a few minutes ago I
>  got into the refrigerator and when you open the doors the temp of
>  the freezer and refrigerator display on the control panel. Freezer
>  was a 36 and refrigerator was at 58. Was fine when I went to bed last
> night.
>  Compressor does not appear to be running. That strange noise I
>  heard 

Re: [MBZ] Samsung refrigerators

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

We have had a Kenmore (LG, I think) side-by-side for about 13 years.  Only 
problem to date is the threads striped in the yoke for the ice dispenser auger. 
 This was (apparently) later redesigned with a hardened nut vs threads cut into 
soft metal stamping.  I couldn't find a replacement for just the part so bought 
a used auger motor assembly on eBay and swapped the yoke (after cutting the old 
one off with Dremel tool).

While on active duty (pre Internet) we moved every few years so we bought Sears 
appliances because of nation-wide parts availability.  It's all online now but 
Sears still has a decent parts site and I often find a part cheaper elsewhere 
using the part number from the sears site.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Max Dillon via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 2:14 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Max Dillon 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Samsung refrigerators

We bought a Samsung side-by-side maybe 8 or 10 years ago.  Control board died 
almost immediately, was replaced under warranty.  Water dispenser died a couple 
years later.  Would not dispense water if the filter was installed, but would 
dispense with no filter.

Ice maker died shortly after, same issue as yours: Big chunk would form in the 
bottom then nothing would come out and then the plastic cracked.  I pulled it 
out so we have more space in the freezer.

Other than that, the freezer and refrigerator work just fine.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jul 12, 2020 11:08:52 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :

> Avoid Samsung refrigerators.  They are piles of crap.  We bought a new 
> expensive french door model back in around 2017.  The reason we went with 
> this model was because it had an ice maker in the door and one in the bottom 
> freezer.  At first everything was fine but within a short time the top ice 
> maker turned into a pile of junk.  It constantly freezes up with big chunks 
> of ice and gets jammed.  90% of the time it does not work unless you thaw it 
> out then it will work for a day or 2 maybe.  Bottom ice maker has always 
> worked fine.
> 
> I am sitting here in my chair in the living room which is just right behind 
> the refrigerator on the other side of the wall (open floor plan), heard some 
> sort of different noise coming from the kitchen.  I did not think much about 
> it.  Just a few minutes ago I got into the refrigerator and when you open the 
> doors the temp of the freezer and refrigerator display on the control panel. 
> Freezer was a 36 and refrigerator was at 58.  Was fine when I went to bed 
> last night.  Compressor does not appear to be running. That strange noise I 
> heard earlier now that I think about it was probably the compressor trying to 
> run, or running but dying. Lucky I did just sign up for that home service 
> contract which I already have an appointment Tuesday for the Bosch Dishwasher 
> issue (drain pump).  Guess I will put in a service request for this too.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Samsung refrigerators

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Just SWMBO and me at home so we rinse dishes before putting in dishwasher and 
only run the dishwasher 1-2 times a week.  With no stuck-on food we use the 
quick wash cycle which ai WAY faster than normal wash.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 2:05 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Samsung refrigerators

I think all dishwashers these days take that long or longer due to conservation 
etc. We had a fairly recent Maytag that we bought 5 years ago they took 3-4 
hours on the heavy duty cycle. The Bosch we have now takes a little under 3 
hours on heavy duty. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 12, 2020, at 12:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On the subject of dishwashers, our beloved 2006 KithcenAid is acting 
> like it will give up the ghost any day soon.  Makes an embarrassingly 
> loud noise during its cycle, although the dishes still emerge sparklingly 
> clean.
> 
> Price on a comparable replacement KitchenAid has risen to $850 and up, 
> so I have been looking at Bosch, Samsung, GE and Whirlpool models with 
> a third rack that are in my price range.
> 
> Had a Bosch dw in the old house and it was very quiet but the cycle 
> took 2+ hours which is way too long.  Don't know if they have solved 
> that problem by now.  Samsung has the best features but I have heard some bad 
> things.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 1:33 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < 
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I've never had great luck with ice makers. Mostly they clog up and 
>> stop working. The ice maker in my GE started leaking, ruined the 
>> floor and stained the ceiling below before I noticed it. That was 
>> about a year after the in-door water dispenser quit. Design flaw, 
>> they routed the water line too close to the interior and it is prone to 
>> freezing up.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:
>> 
>>> I have one like that too. Bottom ice maker quit working, called 
>>> repair (I bought extended warranty from Lowes), guy came and changed 
>>> the filler tube, which froze and burst. some cheap plastic bit. 
>>> Bottom ice maker works when it wants to, has been working OK for the 
>>> last few months but doesn't put out like it should. I have to 
>>> occasionally reset it when it quits cycling. So far temps have been 
>>> OK. Repair guy told me that most new fridges are PsOS due to energy 
>>> savings issues, the motors run full out when they run, and they 
>>> cycle more often, which burns them out more frequently than the old 
>>> ones that were big and just ran.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> On 7/12/20 11:08 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 Avoid Samsung refrigerators. They are piles of crap. We bought a 
 new expensive french door model back in around 2017. The reason we 
 went with this model was because it had an ice maker in the door 
 and one in the bottom freezer. At first everything was fine but 
 within a short time the top ice maker turned into a pile of junk. 
 It constantly freezes up with big chunks of ice and gets jammed. 
 90% of the time it does not work unless you thaw it out then it 
 will work for a day or 2 maybe. Bottom ice maker has always worked fine.
 
 I am sitting here in my chair in the living room which is just 
 right behind the refrigerator on the other side of the wall (open 
 floor plan), heard some sort of different noise coming from the 
 kitchen. I did not think much about it. Just a few minutes ago I 
 got into the refrigerator and when you open the doors the temp of 
 the freezer and refrigerator display on the control panel. Freezer 
 was a 36 and refrigerator was at 58. Was fine when I went to bed last 
 night.
 Compressor does not appear to be running. That strange noise I 
 heard earlier now that I think about it was probably the compressor 
 trying to run, or running but dying. Lucky I did just sign up for 
 that home service contract which I already have an appointment 
 Tuesday for the Bosch Dishwasher issue (drain pump). Guess I will 
 put in a service request for this too.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Turbo Diesal, very good on gas. Duel DVD players

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Back when it was my daily driver, my 1982 300SD routinely got 25 MPG city
and highway.  My 1979 non-turbo 300TD got more like 20-22 MPG.  I sold the
TD but the SD has become a "hanger queen" needing new flex disks and drive
shaft center bearing/carrier.  But the 11 barn cats (all rescues) like the
SD where it is as a perch or safe retreat (underneath).

I think good injectors (and compression) are key to good MPG.  At one point
I adjusted the pop pressure and cleaned the SD injectors; that made the
engine run smoother.  There was a kit with fine wires (and a collet/holder)
for reaming carbon out of the small passages of the injector nozzle.  Of
course the nozzle should be replaced if there is visible wear and the spray
pattern should be checked.  Even injectors that look like new can spray
poorly.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of MG via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 8:44 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: MG 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Turbo Diesal, very good on gas. Duel DVD players

My diesels don't do so good on gas. Maybe I need to get one of these new
diesels.

Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> FYI -- (not mine)
> 
> I am selling a very Nice Mercedes ALL WHEEL DRIVE!
> It is a Turbo Diesal Bluetech with only 88,000 miles.
> Very Good on gas 24MPG
> Fully Loaded with all power options and remote start!!
> Back up camera!
> Duel DVD players in the rear.
> Towing package.
> Ice cold ac!
> Heated seats!
> This Mercedes has to many options to list!!
> Just come see for yourself.
> 
> LOCATED INDIANAPOLIS IN
> 
> 12,500$
> 
> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/indianapolis-mercedes-gl320-
> awd-88k/7156624010.html
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Re: [MBZ] VPN, not political

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

https://www.torproject.org/

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 1:13 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] VPN, not political
> 
> On Sun, July 12, 2020 1:07 am, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
> > What about TOR?
> 
> TorGuard?
> 
> https://www.techradar.com/news/whats-the-truth-about-the-nordvpn-
> breach-heres-what-we-now-know
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Re: [MBZ] VPN, not political

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

What about TOR?

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 9:57 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] VPN, not political
> 
> 
> 
> https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-free-vpns
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: [Okietalk] Masks

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

True that.  My doctors in small practices either retired (like my old 
dermatologist) or joined a big operation (my new dermatologist / Duke Med).

Senator McCain did many things in his life but I will only remember one vote.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes  Max Dillon via Mercedes
> 
> Thank obamacare for that, basically tilted the playing field to favor big
> hospitals, big insurance, big pharma.  Massive sellout of our doctors and
> nurses, pretty much eliminated the ability to run a private practice.  Sadly 
> one
> bitter senator managed to "save" obamacare, pissed that he lost the
> presidential primary to an upstart.
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] Dan's Garage A/C

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Some say an attic fan is a bad thing because it sucks conditioned air out of 
the house and also overpowers normal convection.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
> Penoff via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 8:48 AM
> To: Okie Benz 
> Cc: Dan Penoff 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dan's Garage A/C
> 
> Drywall
> 
> I have an attic opening I could vent it into
> 
> The attic runs at a negative pressure of about 6” Hg due to the use of proper
> ventilation practices and a solar powered fan
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Jul 10, 2020, at 7:04 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, July 9, 2020 8:05 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Possibly, but I think I would rather try and vent it into the attic
> >> space.
> >
> > I don't know what the ceiling is made of, or what's above it, or what
> > kind of ventilation you have up there, but I can't imagine enhancing
> > the heat and humidity of a Florida attic to be a good thing.
> >
> > Mitch.
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] The lack of evidence lockdowns actually worked is a world scandal

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Even so, COVID deaths are dropping like a stone:  
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

NY and NJ quarantines are pretty funny when you compare NY/NJ deaths to the 
states they want to quarantine.
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> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2020 7:49 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The lack of evidence lockdowns actually worked is a world
> scandal
> 
> Except the number of deaths is highly inflated. You get shot, tested positive 
> for
> covid and die, your death is reported as a covid death. Heart attack? Same
> thing. This is the guidelines they have to follow from the cdc, or so has been
> reported in the media.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jul 7, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > A flu season that killed 150,000 people? Thats 5 times normal in 5 months.
> Oh and its not done yet, flu season got over with, the US is losing 1/30th of 
> a
> flu season to COVID every day...
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > On Tuesday, July 7, 2020, 6:22:37 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >
> >
> > If we never heard a word out of the media about covid I suspect we
> > would have just thought this was a bad cold and flu season.  In other
> > words, normal common sense would be to be good with hand washing,
> > covering your mouth when coughing, and stay home if you are sick.
> >
> > On 7/7/2020 5:16 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > > Curt, can you cite any peer reviewed study that indicates how much the
> risk is reduced by the general population wearing masks?  Sure, masks (and
> gloves and gowns) all work in a hospital setting to provide a good risk
> reduction for the imposed cost.  Don't forget the training for those workers.
> Got it, that's fine, no argument.  I don't live in a hospital, don't work in 
> one,
> please don't cite a study about hospitals.
> > >
> > > Let's follow the science.  Where's the study?  "Experts say" doesn't cut 
> > > it
> anymore, the so-called experts contradict themselves, especially on this
> question of masks.
> > >
> > > Jul 7, 2020 2:03:18 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> :
> > >
> > >> Yeahbut the problem is that my wearing a mask protects YOU. Your not
> wearing a mask increases MY risk...
> > >> So I'm polite enough to protect you from the germs I might be carrying
> but you can't be bothered to do the same. Thats brotherhood for you.
> > >> -Curt
> > >>
> > >> On Tuesday, July 7, 2020, 1:44:59 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via
> > >> Mercedes
> > > Max Dillon
> > > Charleston SC
> > >
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] The lack of evidence lockdowns actually worked is a world scandal

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Actually yes and no.  Yes for sick, old folks who are likely to die from this 
bug.  No for young heathy folks who are likely to have minor or no symptoms.  
The correct strategy is for the young/healthy folks to become infected as fast 
as possible as long as hospitals can handle the more extreme cases.  Just my 
opinion.

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> 
> Some say yes. Some say no.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Agree.  Important to differentiate between positive tests, those sick enough to 
be admitted, and deaths.  The way the last two categories are counted hasn't 
changed much.  But doubling the number of tests will likely double the number 
of positives, at least over a short time span.  

Given the glacial speed of developing a cure, the best near-term approach is 
many infected young, healthy people (for herd immunity) while old, sick folks 
protect themselves.  Not unlike children's measles parties of an earlier era.

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> Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2020 3:48 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More
> 
> On Sun, July 5, 2020 3:19 pm, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
> > I eagerly await Dan's experience but I am skeptical.  I don't see how
> > it can suck in warm outside air and exhaust even-warmer air through
> > the same duct/hose (unless it's coaxial).
> 
> The suck in is through the side of the housing, not the hose.
> It's not outside air, it's conditioned room air that you're going to throw 
> outside
> when you're done heating it, so unconditioned outside air can be sucked into
> the room through whatever leaks it can find.
> 
> Yeah, when you think about it, holy cow that sounds stupid.
> But, as I said earlier, the one in my parents' living room actually seems to 
> work,
> although I'm sure the interior humidity is much higher than it should be with 
> a
> real air conditioner.
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Re: [MBZ] Masks

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

I guess time is not of the essence in the upper levels of the public health 
community.  
For contrast, an Air Force mishap investigation had to be complete in 30 days.  
At least that was the rule when I was still in uniform.

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> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 4:15 PM
> To: G Mann via Mercedes 
> Cc: Allan Streib 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Masks
> 
> Six months is an eyeblink in normal infectious disease research.
> 
> At normal research pace, I doubt that's enough time to run a scientifically 
> valid
> experiment, write up the results, submit it for publication and have it
> reviewed.
> 
> Allan
> 
> 
> G Mann via Mercedes  writes:
> 
> > What impresses me most about covid 19, after now 6 months of endless
> > news broadcasts, information releases, and talk by "experts" is:
> >
> > How little we actually know about the disease, its origin, its short
> > term AND long term effects, and how to actually avoid or stop
> > spreading infections.
> >
> > Everyone has opinions.. few have anything that can be remotely called
> > hard fact.
> > Most who claim to have hard facts have been found to have BS and
> > speculation..
> > If ignorance is bliss... this must be the most blissful time in human
> > history..
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Thanks for the explanation.  I'm still skeptical on real-world effectiveness.  
I wonder what kind of SEER or net cooling capacity these things deliver?  Using 
room air to cool the hot coil should make the supply air nice and cool at the 
expense of sucking hot, humid outside air into the space.

Maybe Dan can drill an exhaust hose hole at a location that can later support a 
mini-split?

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> 
> The suck in is through the side of the housing, not the hose.
> It's not outside air, it's conditioned room air that you're going to throw 
> outside
> when you're done heating it, so unconditioned outside air can be sucked into
> the room through whatever leaks it can find.
> 
> Yeah, when you think about it, holy cow that sounds stupid.
> But, as I said earlier, the one in my parents' living room actually seems to 
> work,
> although I'm sure the interior humidity is much higher than it should be with 
> a
> real air conditioner.
> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

I eagerly await Dan's experience but I am skeptical.  I don't see how it can 
suck in warm outside air and exhaust even-warmer air through the same duct/hose 
(unless it's coaxial).  Also, I don't see how the airflow through a 4 in hose 
can begin to match the air flow through a mini-split outdoor unit.  I just 
don't see how the physics can work.

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> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2020 10:47 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: tyee165 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More
> 
> The thing that surprised me is that it managed to blow the condensate out and
> there was no pan to empty like on a dehumidifier.Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
>  Original message From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes
>  Date: 2020-07-05  06:38  (GMT-06:00) To:
> Mercedes Discussion List  Cc:
> mi...@mitchellhaley.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More I had
> extremely low expectations when my parents bought one.Let's draw 95° air
> into the house, heat it up to make cold air, blow thehot air (and condensate
> from the cold air) out the tube, drawing more 95°moist air into the
> building...but surprisingly enough, it seems to workabout as well as a window
> unit.Mitch.On Sun, July 5, 2020 3:27 am, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:>
> Be interesting to see how this work.  HVAC guys put one in my house as a>
> temp fix.  Didn't do much good.  I don't see how a single hose can
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Be interesting to see how this work.  HVAC guys put one in my house as a temp 
fix.  Didn't do much good.  I don't see how a single hose can work. 

> -Original Message-
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> Penoff via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2020 5:24 PM
> To: Mercedes List 
> Cc: Dan Penoff 
> Subject: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More
> 
> So my HVAC engineer neighbor was over the other night and I was asking him
> about his opinion on a mini-split in the garage…
> 
> His take? Buy a portable 12,000 BTU unit and use that, forget about a mini-
> split.
> 
> I bought one at Lowe’s today. I’m going to try it out in the morning tomorrow.
> It should be a pretty wicked test, as we’ve been having 95+ degree days of 
> late
> with heat indexes approaching 100. This can also act as a backup for the house
> in the event that the house AC pukes for whatever reason - we can use it to
> cool a couple of rooms in an emergency.
> 
> I’ve got to do distributor caps, rotors and insulators on the 420E, so I’ll 
> pull it in
> early, shut the door and fire this thing up and see how it does. Not sure how
> I’m going to vent it at present, but that’s something I can work out.
> 
> He also suggested that I insulate the garage doors, too.
> 
> More as I know it.
> 
> I also bought my hybrid electric water heater. I was planning on doing this in
> August, since I just dropped $6k last week on a new AC system for the house,
> which is working quite well, I would add. While I was wandering the aisles of
> Lowe’s I went by the water heaters to see if they still had any of the one I
> wanted. They did, and it was marked down $300 from the regular $1299.
> Bought the last one they had and let them carry the paper for 18 months, too.
> 
> So maybe next weekend I’ll have the resident plumber install the new water
> heater. I already had him survey the existing setup to determine what he’ll
> need to do the job, so that’s done. Another significant decrease in energy
> consumption, *and* some cooling for the garage as well.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Pressure washers

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Sounds more like engine problem than the actual pump based on fact engine dies 
when trigger pulled (demanding engine deliver more power).  Probably fuel, 
maybe main jet blocked by corrosion.

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From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Okiebenz via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 11:53 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Okiebenz 
Subject: [MBZ] Pressure washers

I think my gas powered Troy built power washer is fubar. Pump might be locking 
up. I have had it probably 3-4 years but not used it that much. Last year it 
was working fine but the last time I tried to use it, it would start up but as 
soon as I pulled the trigger it would bog down and kill the engine. 

Yesterday I got it out and it fired right up after the first pull and ran fine 
for a couple of minutes then slowed down and died. Pulling the cord the motor 
felt like it had a load on it and would start but immediately die. After a 
couple of times at this then I couldn’t pull it fast enough to get it to start. 
If I pulled the trigger on the gun engine would turn over more freely and would 
start then die. Maybe it was taking water pressure off the pump.

Reading the manual it says no maintenance is required and pump is sealed for 
life. I hen admittedly not maintained it by the book. I believe you are 
supposed to drain the water out of the pump after use and saw something about 
squirting pump saver into it for winter storage. I usually just unhooked the 
hoses then rolled it into the garage. 

Anything I can do with this thing or is it fubar?

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Re: [MBZ] Fakebook

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Personally, I have no use for Facebook; I would like to see them go broke..  

But my church started using Facebook to livestream Sunday services during COVID 
so I needed an account.  Facebook refused to create my account until I used my 
cell number for a username. Never could get it to work using a typical 
alphanumeric username.  

If I had the upload bandwidth I would host these myself (we typically have at 
least 20 folks watching live).  I do host replays.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 1:23 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fakebook

This is just a marketplace ad,  not in a group. I’m going to be listing a car 
later today will see if it works. I really need to get this house listed. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 1, 2020, at 12:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Sounds like when I list something in the local Marketplace and it flags the 
> ad for something “bad” in one of the two groups I post in. I’ve yet to figure 
> what it is that keeps it from one group and not the other. You appeal or ask 
> for a review it it never seems to happen.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jul 1, 2020, at 1:05 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> What the heck is wrong with Fakebook?  I created a nice marketplace add for 
>> my rental house and it says it needs to verify my phone number, so I put in 
>> cell phone to get a code sent and it continues to say something when wrong 
>> try again later.  In account settings I setup 2 factor with my number a 
>> while back and it sends a code from there.  WTF?  I can't seem to find any 
>> method of contacting their support.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

I looked back but didn't find photos that would helpful.  As I recall, the 
refrigerant lines on the indoor unit stuck out (on the outside) about a foot 
when the indoor unit was installed on the bracket.  These "pigtails" were 
terminated with the threaded cone fitting for flared tubing.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
> Penoff via Mercedes
> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 6:26 AM
> To: Okie Benz 
> Cc: Dan Penoff 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units
> 
> Thanks, Scott, this is great information! I guess what I was attempting to
> determine as far as connections is where exactly the line set connects - at 
> the
> exit point of the wall unit? Do the lines go into the unit at all?
> 
> I’m asking because I want to be able to determine exactly how long of a line 
> set
> I’ll need without ending up short, if that makes sense.
> 
> In other words, if I was measuring for the line set, would I measure from
> where the wall unit meets the wall or do the lines go into the cabinet a
> distance, and if so, how far?
> 
> I have the flexibility to use either side for connecting the line set and 
> running it
> through the wall, that won’t matter.
> 
> I hope I’m making sense here…
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Jun 30, 2020, at 1:05 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >
> > The outdoor unit sucks in air from the back and blows it out the front.  I
> mounted mine to the wall thinking that would keep the coils cleaner (grass
> clippings, splashed mud, etc) and less susceptible to damage (like hit by a
> mower).  The commercial pads are plastic now but it's easy enough to cast one
> in place if you go that way.
> >
> > My Pioneer indoor unit was set up for lines to exit the right (seen from
> inside) side and that's how I did mine.  Instructions say you can use the 
> other
> side, but I didn't try that.  The condensate drain and routing is important 
> to get
> right.  You don't want water to collect anywhere (more so here where it
> freezes).  I enclosed the exposed outside wires in flexible conduit.  I'll 
> look to
> see if I have any useful photos.
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> >> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 10:17 AM
> >> To: Okie Benz 
> >> Cc: Dan Penoff 
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units
> >>
> >> Yeah, I’m not sure if I’ll do a concrete pad or hang on the wall. If
> >> it’s on a pad it has to be strapped down for hizzicane code. A lot
> >> will have ot do with the length of the line sets that are available.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jun 29, 2020, at 9:45 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Note too the outdoor unit needs to sit off the wall a bit for proper
> >> circulation. The brackets I got for mine for some reason unclear are
> >> a bit short so the unit overhangs a bit. Not an issue really just kinda 
> >> odd.
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>> Sent from iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 4:12 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Cutting and flaring is not that big a deal but use a tubing cutter
> >>>> (not a hack
> >> saw) and a decent flare tool (not a bargain bin tool).  If you hire a
> >> pro he'll have the right tools and it only takes a few minutes.  Do
> >> bend the lines slowly and carefully so they don't kink.  The outside
> >> unit doesn't vibrate much but it will vibrate so route lines in a way they 
> >> can
> absorb vibration.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Original Message-
> >>>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 10:43 AM
> >>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >>>> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> >>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe instead of looping it you can just move the outside unit down
> >>>> the
> >> wall a few feet to take up the extra length?
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>
> >>>>>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 8:42 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sun, June 28, 

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

The outdoor unit sucks in air from the back and blows it out the front.  I 
mounted mine to the wall thinking that would keep the coils cleaner (grass 
clippings, splashed mud, etc) and less susceptible to damage (like hit by a 
mower).  The commercial pads are plastic now but it's easy enough to cast one 
in place if you go that way.

My Pioneer indoor unit was set up for lines to exit the right (seen from 
inside) side and that's how I did mine.  Instructions say you can use the other 
side, but I didn't try that.  The condensate drain and routing is important to 
get right.  You don't want water to collect anywhere (more so here where it 
freezes).  I enclosed the exposed outside wires in flexible conduit.  I'll look 
to see if I have any useful photos.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
> Penoff via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 10:17 AM
> To: Okie Benz 
> Cc: Dan Penoff 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units
> 
> Yeah, I’m not sure if I’ll do a concrete pad or hang on the wall. If it’s on 
> a pad it
> has to be strapped down for hizzicane code. A lot will have ot do with the
> length of the line sets that are available.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
> > On Jun 29, 2020, at 9:45 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >
> > Note too the outdoor unit needs to sit off the wall a bit for proper
> circulation. The brackets I got for mine for some reason unclear are a bit 
> short
> so the unit overhangs a bit. Not an issue really just kinda odd.
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iPhone
> >
> >> On Jun 28, 2020, at 4:12 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >>
> >> Cutting and flaring is not that big a deal but use a tubing cutter (not a 
> >> hack
> saw) and a decent flare tool (not a bargain bin tool).  If you hire a pro 
> he'll have
> the right tools and it only takes a few minutes.  Do bend the lines slowly and
> carefully so they don't kink.  The outside unit doesn't vibrate much but it 
> will
> vibrate so route lines in a way they can absorb vibration.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 10:43 AM
> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units
> >>
> >> Maybe instead of looping it you can just move the outside unit down the
> wall a few feet to take up the extra length?
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 8:42 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, June 28, 2020 8:43 am, dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On thing I wondered about: If I get a pre-made line set that’s
> >>>> slightly longer than what I need, does it matter if I just looped
> >>>> it to take up the slack rather than have to cut and flare?
> >>>
> >>> It shouldn't, although some possibility of oil trapping in the loop
> >>> might be there. Many units have a 15' minimum on line length, it
> >>> might pay to download and read the install manual before you order the
> lineset.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Correct.  The lines come with both ends flared and the b-nuts on the tube.  
Both lines are insulated and need to be, unlike a normal central split system 
where only the vapor line is normally insulated.  I forgot to mention that the 
5/16 in adapter fits a standard 1/4 inch hose fitting.  Vapor and liquid are 
correct terminology but "high-side" and "low side" is wrong because (with 
expansion devices in the outdoor unit) both refrigerant lines are at the same 
pressure (low for cooling and high for heating). 

The outdoor unit has two service valves where the flared refrigerant lines 
attach.  After evacuating the lines and indoor unit you open those valves to 
release the R410a.  The larger one also has the fitting for the 5/16 charging 
adapter.  As someone noted, R410a systems run at much higher pressure than R22 
or R12.

The indoor unit includes short refrigerant lines that you poke through the big 
hole when you  mount the indoor unit to the bracket.  Typically you carefully 
fold these lines (on the outside)  against the building.  The other end of 
lineset attaches to these pigtails.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 4:25 PM
To: Okie Benz 
Cc: Dan Penoff 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

So do you have to flare the line set no matter what? In other words, is the 
line set not already flared with the fittings in place for the provided length? 
Presuming that if it was and you wanted it shorter you would cut it down to 
length and move the fittings while doing so.

-D

> On Jun 28, 2020, at 4:12 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Cutting and flaring is not that big a deal but use a tubing cutter (not a 
> hack saw) and a decent flare tool (not a bargain bin tool).  If you hire a 
> pro he'll have the right tools and it only takes a few minutes.  Do bend the 
> lines slowly and carefully so they don't kink.  The outside unit doesn't 
> vibrate much but it will vibrate so route lines in a way they can absorb 
> vibration.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 10:43 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units
> 
> Maybe instead of looping it you can just move the outside unit down the wall 
> a few feet to take up the extra length?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 8:42 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> On Sun, June 28, 2020 8:43 am, dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On thing I wondered about: If I get a pre-made line set that’s 
>>> slightly longer than what I need, does it matter if I just looped it 
>>> to take up the slack rather than have to cut and flare?
>> 
>> It shouldn't, although some possibility of oil trapping in the loop 
>> might be there. Many units have a 15' minimum on line length, it 
>> might pay to download and read the install manual before you order the 
>> lineset.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Cutting and flaring is not that big a deal but use a tubing cutter (not a hack 
saw) and a decent flare tool (not a bargain bin tool).  If you hire a pro he'll 
have the right tools and it only takes a few minutes.  Do bend the lines slowly 
and carefully so they don't kink.  The outside unit doesn't vibrate much but it 
will vibrate so route lines in a way they can absorb vibration.

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From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 10:43 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

Maybe instead of looping it you can just move the outside unit down the wall a 
few feet to take up the extra length?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 28, 2020, at 8:42 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, June 28, 2020 8:43 am, dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On thing I wondered about: If I get a pre-made line set that’s 
>> slightly longer than what I need, does it matter if I just looped it 
>> to take up the slack rather than have to cut and flare?
> 
> It shouldn't, although some possibility of oil trapping in the loop 
> might be there. Many units have a 15' minimum on line length, it might 
> pay to download and read the install manual before you order the lineset.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Dan,  My Pioneer kit came with everything (lineset, wire, etc) needed to 
install except a line cover (recommended), wall brackets/pad, and 
disconnect/romex.  What kind of wall do you have?  Studs/sheetrock/sheething is 
easy to drill through (2 1/4 in hole) but you need to find the studs to attach 
the bracket.  Cement block is fine but harder to drill the big hole and 
tapcon-style fasteners needed.  The 110/220v wiring can be easy or hard 
depending on where to need to go to get to a breaker.  Code usually requires a 
disconnect outside very near the compressor.  There are many good how-to videos 
on YouTube.  Mechanical installation of the indoor and outdoor units id fast 
and easy unless you have oddball constraints like I did.  If you mount the 
outside unit on the wall get the kind of bracket with a horizontal bar that 
screws to the studs and brackets that slide left-right on the bar to match the 
evaporator feet (not an issue with cement block).  You'll need a quality flare 
tool if you need to cut and re-flare the refrigerant lines.

The refrigerant is in the evaporator but before releasing it into the system 
you'll want to do a leak check (preferably with dry nitrogen) and pump down the 
system with a vacuum pump (and again be sure it doesn’t leak).  In my case, my 
vacuum pump was ancient, I had no nitrogen/regulator, and no flare tool.  
That's why I hired a pro for these steps.  

If you have all the tools and no oddball considerations install is an easy one 
day job.  In my case it always seemed I needed some additional tool, drill bit, 
etc. so I probably installed in 8-10 hours spread over many days..

I am only conditioning about 600 sf but it is very leaky:  zero insulation, 
poor fitting doors, single-pane windows, and tongue and groove ceiling and 
floor (built in the 50s).  But the 1200BTU unit does fine in summer and keeps 
it above 60 degrees even when it's 20-30 degrees outside.  Unlike an old-style 
(on-off) system, it doesn't hurt (except in the wallet) to oversize there 
inverter systems because the motor speeds regulate to deliver the needed 
heat/cool.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
> Penoff via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 3:52 PM
> To: Okie Benz 
> Cc: Dan Penoff 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units
> 
> In my case this won’t be used a great deal, that is, maybe one day a week for 
> 6-
> 8 hours, worst case scenario. I’m not sure that dropping $1000 on even an LG
> makes sense in my case. I notice that you’ve also got to buy a lot of 
> additonal
> stuff, too, like a line set, cover for the lines, mounting pad or wall mount
> brackets for the condensor, etc…
> 
> Sounds like Scott had some luck with the Pioneer, which is one of the brands I
> see offered locally.I could probably do one of those installed for under 
> $1000.
> Considering the limited duty cycle, I’m thinking I could roll the dice on one 
> of
> these and probably come out OK.
> 
> One thing I did note - some of the cheap weird brand name mini splits
> apparently have SEER ratings in the low teens, like 13. According to one
> advertiser these are not legal for sale in the US. Interesting - gray market 
> AC
> units!
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Jun 27, 2020, at 3:25 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >
> > I put a 9k Fujitsu in my living room, still needed a 5k window unit in
> > the master bedroom to sleep in the worst weather as the bedroom door was
> 30'
> > away from the heat pump. In the winter I put a thermostat in the
> > bedroom, set it at 62 for sleeping, and ran the Fujitsu to heat the
> > living room and kitchen to daytime living temps. It worked, sort of, a
> > central air heat pump is more effective but less efficient.
> >
> > I've got 1200 well insulated square feet, with a 18k heat pump and 40k
> > furnace. The fixed speed heat pump can heat the house down to about 25
> > degrees. Below that the furnace needs to take over. But with
> > electricity over 15 cents and propane under $1, I don't use the heat
> > pump at all. I figure I put about $200-250 a year worth of electricity
> > through it cooling the house, so the payback on a more efficient more
> > expensive unit would exceed the expected lifespan.
> >
> > That original Fujitsu is still working fine, currently in the master
> > bedroom of my parents' house.
> >
> > This would probably work nicely in the areas near it, but you'd
> > probably want another for the bedroom. It's the new and improved
> > version of the one I had.
> > https://www.acwholesalers.com/Fujitsu-09LMAS1/p106473.html
> >
> > This would do your whole house, but it's not cheap.
> > https://www.acwholesalers.com/Fujitsu-AOU24RLXFZ-2-ASU7RLF1-
> ASU9RLF1/p
> > 65951.html
> >
> > On Sat, June 27, 2020 11:17 am, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Me three. Our aged wall unit has finally irritated the wife. I
> >> suspect we can get by with something quite small, the house is only
> 

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Mitch,  Thanks for the rundown.  Do you know where the big 3 are actually
made and where the parts come from?  As I recall the brochure for my Pioneer
(years ago) said it had a Mitsubishi compressor but I see the current
brochure shows GMCC compressors, whatever that is.  I know that many brands
of the central ducted heat pump systems use the same parts.  I wondered if
you had any insight if this is the case with mini-splits?

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 2:58 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

The big 3 were traditionally considered Daikin, Mitsubishi and Fujitsu.
The next tier is pretty much LG and LG.

The 'I like Commies' choices would have Pioneer and Gree in the top tier,
then everything else.

Daikin wasn't an option for me, as there were no gray market distribution
channels 8 years ago. That seems to have changed since they were merged with
Goodman.

At any rate, 'inverter drive' is easily worth an extra couple hundred bucks
if you use it very much.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

You will see different SEER ratings and prices.  SEER applies only to cooling 
performance.  If heating is important, note that heating efficiency doesn't 
vary much.  The higher SEER may not be worth the extra cost.

-Original Message-
From: Scott Ritchey 
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 2:15 PM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' 
Subject: RE: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

Maybe 3-5 years ago I installed a 12K "Pioneer" brand mini-split from 
https://www.highseer.com/ in my "barn."  I too used a pro connect the 
refrigerant lines and do the initial startup.  My outdoor unit is also mounted 
on the outside wall with brackets to keep it off the ground.  As I recall, the 
equipment cost $600-700 (delivered) and the "pro" charged about $100-200 for 
startup.

Lessons learned:
-  My main install problem was a tight available space with non-standard stud 
spacing.  I really had to hunt (and punch small holes) to find a location where 
the big hole missed all the studs.
 --On the outside I had to install horizontal two-by boards for the brackets, 
again the studs were in the wrong places.  The brackets must align 
(horizontally)  with the feet on the outdoor unit.
 --The "pro" routed the refrigerant lines between the wall and outdoor unit.  
When fall came leaves piled up on the lines blocking air flow.  In winter Ice 
formed around the lines blocking air flow.  The defrost cycle cleared the coils 
but I needed a heat gun or salamander to clear the ice behind the unit.  This 
year I had another "pro" come back and reroute the lines.
 -- The initial "pro" did not understand that all expansion devices are in the 
outdoor unit and insisted on installing a service port in the liquid line 
(totally unnecessary).  This appears to be a common misperception.  At some 
point the Schrader valve in that added port began leaking.
 -- The outdoor unit of my Pioneer system looks exactly like the Mitsubishi 
unit later installed at our church.  The indoor units look different.  If you 
are looking at an generic brand, it is worthwhile (IMO) to call the suppliers 
to find out who actually makes their equipment.
 -- Other than the leaking Schrader valve and ice/leaf accumulation (both now 
corrected) I have had no problems with my mini-split system (knock wood).  
 -- The plastic tubing for the condensate drain became brittle after long 
exposure to sunlight (UV).  Protect it with some sort of cover or conduit.

The outdoor unit is officially called a condenser, which is accurate during 
cooling but it becomes an evaporator during heating.  So I just call it the 
outdoor unit.
The "pros" I hired for this and other HVAC work have not been impressive.  They 
had the tools and got the job done but I would have done it with more care.
I had to cut and re-flare my refrigerant lines (way too long) and I didn't have 
a decent flare tool. That is the main reason I hired that done.
My HighSEER kit came with a tiny tube of stuff to prevent leaks at the 
refrigerant tube flare connections.  I can't swear it works but mine have never 
leaked.

Scott

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From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 11:24 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

I have put in 3 LG heat/cool systems, total 8 head units, ordered from AC 
Wholesalers in FL somewhere. Easy install, 20A or 30A 220V circuits. (Don’t 
forget a power shutoff at the condenser) Nothing difficult about the install if 
you can get the lines in or through the wall (2” hole) and power to the 
condenser. The only real work is drilling the line hole and running power and 
mounting the unit brackets. I hang the condenser on the outside wall because of 
storm surge flooding concerns. 

I have my AC guy come to pull down the lines and charge the system. I think for 
the warranty you need that. 

I put in a 24k BTU system with 2 12k heads last summer, I think with all the 
lines and such it was about $2200 or so plus a coupla hundred for my guy to 
spend a coupla hours fooling with it. A single unit will be much less. 

Look on their website and order one. Mitsubishi is supposedly “the best” but 
these LGs have been fine though I have fried 2 controller boards in the big 
system due to lightning hits nearby. You might consider a surge protector in 
your system somewhere. 

--FT
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> On Jun 27, 2020, at 9:06 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> As my standby generator install is wrapping up and a new 4 ton Lennox AC 
> system is going into the house, I’m getting close to the point of installing 
> a mini split system to take the edge off the heat and humidity so I can work 
> in the garage without sweating buckets.
> 
> I got a quote from my AC guys for a Lennox 12,000 BTU system, which I knew 
> would be expensive - $3200 expensive. Ouch. Not an option at that price.
> 
> So I’m left with sourcing my own and having a local installer finish it 

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Maybe 3-5 years ago I installed a 12K "Pioneer" brand mini-split from 
https://www.highseer.com/ in my "barn."  I too used a pro connect the 
refrigerant lines and do the initial startup.  My outdoor unit is also mounted 
on the outside wall with brackets to keep it off the ground.  As I recall, the 
equipment cost $600-700 (delivered) and the "pro" charged about $100-200 for 
startup.

Lessons learned:
-  My main install problem was a tight available space with non-standard stud 
spacing.  I really had to hunt (and punch small holes) to find a location where 
the big hole missed all the studs.
 --On the outside I had to install horizontal two-by boards for the brackets, 
again the studs were in the wrong places.  The brackets must align 
(horizontally)  with the feet on the outdoor unit.
 --The "pro" routed the refrigerant lines between the wall and outdoor unit.  
When fall came leaves piled up on the lines blocking air flow.  In winter Ice 
formed around the lines blocking air flow.  The defrost cycle cleared the coils 
but I needed a heat gun or salamander to clear the ice behind the unit.  This 
year I had another "pro" come back and reroute the lines.
 -- The initial "pro" did not understand that all expansion devices are in the 
outdoor unit and insisted on installing a service port in the liquid line 
(totally unnecessary).  This appears to be a common misperception.  At some 
point the Schrader valve in that added port began leaking.
 -- The outdoor unit of my Pioneer system looks exactly like the Mitsubishi 
unit later installed at our church.  The indoor units look different.  If you 
are looking at an generic brand, it is worthwhile (IMO) to call the suppliers 
to find out who actually makes their equipment.
 -- Other than the leaking Schrader valve and ice/leaf accumulation (both now 
corrected) I have had no problems with my mini-split system (knock wood).  
 -- The plastic tubing for the condensate drain became brittle after long 
exposure to sunlight (UV).  Protect it with some sort of cover or conduit.

The outdoor unit is officially called a condenser, which is accurate during 
cooling but it becomes an evaporator during heating.  So I just call it the 
outdoor unit.
The "pros" I hired for this and other HVAC work have not been impressive.  They 
had the tools and got the job done but I would have done it with more care.
I had to cut and re-flare my refrigerant lines (way too long) and I didn't have 
a decent flare tool. That is the main reason I hired that done.
My HighSEER kit came with a tiny tube of stuff to prevent leaks at the 
refrigerant tube flare connections.  I can't swear it works but mine have never 
leaked.

Scott

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Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 11:24 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

I have put in 3 LG heat/cool systems, total 8 head units, ordered from AC 
Wholesalers in FL somewhere. Easy install, 20A or 30A 220V circuits. (Don’t 
forget a power shutoff at the condenser) Nothing difficult about the install if 
you can get the lines in or through the wall (2” hole) and power to the 
condenser. The only real work is drilling the line hole and running power and 
mounting the unit brackets. I hang the condenser on the outside wall because of 
storm surge flooding concerns. 

I have my AC guy come to pull down the lines and charge the system. I think for 
the warranty you need that. 

I put in a 24k BTU system with 2 12k heads last summer, I think with all the 
lines and such it was about $2200 or so plus a coupla hundred for my guy to 
spend a coupla hours fooling with it. A single unit will be much less. 

Look on their website and order one. Mitsubishi is supposedly “the best” but 
these LGs have been fine though I have fried 2 controller boards in the big 
system due to lightning hits nearby. You might consider a surge protector in 
your system somewhere. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Jun 27, 2020, at 9:06 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> As my standby generator install is wrapping up and a new 4 ton Lennox AC 
> system is going into the house, I’m getting close to the point of installing 
> a mini split system to take the edge off the heat and humidity so I can work 
> in the garage without sweating buckets.
> 
> I got a quote from my AC guys for a Lennox 12,000 BTU system, which I knew 
> would be expensive - $3200 expensive. Ouch. Not an option at that price.
> 
> So I’m left with sourcing my own and having a local installer finish it out, 
> or DIY it. We’ve had these conversations here before about various brands, 
> which I would enjoy hearing the latest information anyone has in this regard, 
> but I’m also intrigued but the HUGE range of mini splits I see locally on FB 
> and Craigslist. The number of manufacturers is nothing short of astounding, 
> and they sound like a day’s search through AliBabba:
> 

Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT: chickens

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

One day a squirrel fried itself in the high transformer in front of our house, 
popping the fuse.  While SWMBO and I and the Gulf power guy stood over the 
still-smoking squirrel, the semi-wild neighborhood mama cat shot through our 
gaggle grabbing the squirrel on the fly and disappeared for the rest of the 
day.  Animals have such amazing reflexes.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 6:25 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Curt Raymond 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT: chickens
> 
>  I shot a lot of squirrels in the backyard when I was a kid, dad still does. 
> My
> parent's house sits on the rural/urban divide near a dirt access road. City 
> folk
> trap squirrels and drop them off on the access road, the squirrels then find 
> my
> parent's bird feeder.Their yard will handle 4 squirrels at any time, meaning
> with 4 or fewer squirrels there is enough feed that they don't attack the bird
> feeder. When I 5th squirrel turns up the attacks begin and one of them, 
> usually
> the fat, dumb city squirrel gets fatal.
> Dad has gotten the crows trained, when he shoots the body lasts for about 5
> minutes. He says they need 3 trips to take it all away. Interestingly crows 
> seem
> smart enough to leave the pellet behind. I've read that eagles eat lead from
> dead animals and die from it but dad says the crows will pick the pellet back
> out of the body. Most of the time its not a problem as the pellet passes clean
> through.
> -Curt
> 
> On Friday, June 26, 2020, 5:08:41 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>  That was known as Mom's Rule when I was growing up.
> Squirrel, rabbit, deer, if she could watch it from the kitchen window while
> doing dishes it wasn't game.
> 
> Mitch.
> 
> On Fri, June 26, 2020 5:04 pm, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> 
> > In fact I have a rule that I don't shoot rabbits closer than 200 yards
> > from camp. Outside of the 200 yard circle they're no longer pets. I
> > know the rule doesn't make sense but it is what it is...
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT New Treatment for Wuhan Red Death

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

This is the stuff they give for bad poison ivy.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 4:26 PM
To: Mercedes 
Cc: Meade Dillon 
Subject: [MBZ] OT New Treatment for Wuhan Red Death

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53061281

Dexamethasone proves first life-saving drug

A cheap and widely available drug can help save the lives of patients
seriously ill with coronavirus.

The low-dose steroid treatment dexamethasone is a major breakthrough in the
fight against the deadly virus, UK experts say.

The drug is part of the world's biggest trial testing existing treatments
 to see if they also work for coronavirus.

It cut the risk of death by a third for patients on ventilators. For those
on oxygen, it cut deaths by a fifth.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death mortality rate study

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Karl,

Thank you for your thoughtful and extensive reply.  The personal-protection
guidance (masks, groups, outdoors vs indoors, etc.) is particularly useful.
I agree that we need a much better National response for the day a truly
evil bug comes along.

I don't think the Iceland experience is comparable to the US; Iceland is a
remote island with little international travel and a population smaller than
Bakersfield, CA.

I find it hard to reconcile the NYC COVID experience and preparedness with
a world-class health department.

Finally, being retired and having a smart phone, I watched the daily
briefings from the COVID Task Force and Cuomo, at least until they became
redundant.  My recollection of the CDC doctors' role is quite different from
your description.  

Thanks.  

Scott

 -Original Message-
 From: Karl Wittnebel 
 Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 2:04 PM

At their root level, public health crises driven by highly infectious
diseases are a national problem. The response alwys needs to be carried out
by state and local entities, but particularly when dealing with a novel
pathogen, allowing the best scientific and public health experts to drive
the response is critical. That is what Iceland did. The public health
department drove the entire thing. Politicians were not involved at all in
telling them what to do or how to do it. There will always be political
ramifications from any action, but those cut both ways and if the
politicians drive it and get things wrong, they pay the price. So I would
argue it is best to just rely on the public health experts and let them take
any heat. Best for the politicians and best for the country in terms of
disease control.

Anyway State departments of health are highly variable in their resources
and levels of expertise and will therefore depend to varying levels on
national resources and guidance for their reponse plans and policies. New
York City is a world class health department on its own, for instance.
Their politicians chose not to listen to their public health officials
initially, and look at the result. Those few weeks of political dilly
dallying could have saved a lot of older people's lives, and some younger
people also, in and around NYC. But I digress. The main point is that most
of the country is not as well equipped as NYC. So their heaalth departments
need help with technical aspects as well as guidance on what policies are
most effective. Not that the guidance will always be perfect, but a
consistent, unified voice is always more reassuring during a crisis than a
fragmented response where politicians undermine what the public health
people say, whether it be about masks, treatments, business closures, travel
restrictions etc. You want the public to see everyone working together
consistently in an apolitical fashion to manage the problem.
Centralized, national leadership is a key part of getting the response
entites on the same page. Telling the states to figure it out for themselves
isnt using the available resources very well. Both FEMA and the CDC have
considerable expertise and resources that could be used in ways they have
not been so far.

Re The Prez: he would have been better served to stay out of the limelight
on the whole thing. Committing hard to specific ideas when the state of
knowledge is poorly developed is kind of like putting all your money on red
22: not likely to pay out. He made a lot of foolish statements that painted
him into a corner. He doesnt have enough technical depth to comment and
doesnt seem to appreciate how out of his depth he is. He should have relied
more on the CDC people to lead the response, but they were pretty much
muzzled. They would literally normally be telling everyone what to do,
mobilizing considerable resources to facilitate testing and telling states
what the test and trace policies and targets should be. Instead we have had
the JK crew telling everyone that the states are on their own for stockpile
and other resources and POTUS telling everyone the states are responsible
for dealing with their own epidemics and lockdown policies. CDC has
definitely been told to stand down or they would be out in front on all of
it. FEMA would definitely be driving the stockpile distributions and
policies, which should be transparent and non punitive. Basically this was a
big political opportunity for DT to let the machinery work and then declare
victory. Instead the epidemic is poorly controlled, dragging on into
election season, the economic impact is dragging on longer than it should,
and there is a high chance it will all get worse again. There is a strong
chance we will end up doing the usual public health test and trace
interventions anyway.

The lockdown was super draconian and largely unprecedented. It was never
going to be a workable long term strategy. The best thing for the economy
would have been to tell the nation that everyone needs to do their part to
fight this thing, train up contact tracing teams, 

Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death mortality rate study

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Karl, Your comments stimulate many questions in my mind.
   As individuals. What should we be doing that we are not doing (behavior, 
supplements, etc)?
   Specifically what National leadership do you mean (CDC, POTUS, legislators)?
   Does National leadership have jurisdiction or do state/local authorities 
have jurisdiction?
...What has National leadership failed to do?
   Is contact tracing really viable (considering the virus was widespread 
before we knew it was here)?
   Why were/are we (the US) so slow with tests, treatments, etc.
   How does this all end?  Do we all get it eventually?  Does it die out?
   What are we proles to make of the flip-flop guidance from the experts 
(masks, isolate indoors, etc.)?
   Who can we believe?  So much seems politically driven, even medical 
"experts".
   I'm an 70+ year old asthmatic and SWMBO is in her 80s with heart issues so 
we are hermits, mostly. 
Thanks for any insights,
Scott (a skeptic)

> -Original Message-
> From: Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
> 
> It isnt really a balance. The shut down was just to buy time, and it worked, 
> but
> at tremendous cost. The basics of mask wearing, testing and contact tracing to
> isolate and quarantine positives and their contacts involve relatively minimal
> cost, and no threat to civil liberties. And this works. Iceland never shut 
> down at
> all. They just tested lots of people from the first reported case onward, and
> had a team of 50 people testing and tracing the contacts and telling them to
> stay home for two weeks. They have close to zero daily new cases. That is all
> we need to do nationally, but everybody is too busy whining to get on board
> and there is no real leadership at the national level.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 9:08 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > The balance that is the main challenge is how to maintain an economy,
> > allow personal rights, and mitigate disease spread. Everyone has the
> > answer depending on various orientations but none of them seem to
> > strike the balance effectively.  I have just kinda decided to go about
> > life, take some precautions, but recognizing sooner or later getting
> > infected is a high probability no matter what.  A vaccine is a long
> > time away, if it would even be effective
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 6/13/20 11:58 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> > > Our numbers are still rising in this part of the country. With
> > > little to
> > no
> > > testing we will probably never know the full extent of the disease.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 9:47 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >>   Still pretty hard to really prove that data isn't it? 100,000+
> > >> deaths
> > in
> > >> the US in 4 months is 3x+ what the flu would get over twice that period.
> > >> It'll take a long time before we antibody test enough people to
> > >> really prove those numbers.
> > >> Based on how the US numbers continue to inch down I'm thinking that
> > having
> > >> a bad "early" COVID season might be a good thing for our later results.
> > >> Brazil's numbers are terrible and rising and thats after having
> > >> very low numbers in the initial 4 months.
> > >> -Curt
> > >>
> > >>  On Friday, June 12, 2020, 4:20:37 PM EDT, Max Dillon via
> > >> Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>   https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/#latest
> > >>
> > >> 1. According to the latest immunological and serological studies,
> > >> the overall lethality of Covid-19 (IFR) is about 0.1%[
> > >> https://swprs.org/studies-on-covid-19-lethality/] and thus in the
> > >> range of a strong seasonal influenza[
> > >> https://www.ebm-netzwerk.de/en/publications/covid-19] (flu).
> > >>
> > >> 2. Even in global “hotspots”, the risk of death for the general
> > population
> > >> of school and working age is typically in the range of a daily car
> > >> ride
> > to
> > >>
> work[https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.05.20054361v1].
> > The
> > >> risk was initially overestimated because many people with only mild
> > >> or
> > no
> > >> symptoms were not taken into account.
> > >>
> > >> Max Dillon
> > >> Charleston SC
> > >>
> > >>
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Re: [MBZ] Water heater replacement

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Yes.  Tanks are glass lined, which is great until glass begins to crack from 
thermo-cycling and handling.  If the actual tank leaks it must be replaced.  
Leaks in hoses and fittings (as well as heating elements and thermostats) are 
economical to replace as parts.  In addition to replacing the anode, periodic 
draining is a good idea to remove sediment.  Power MUST be turned off before 
draining or elements will fry.  If tank won't drain (common with sediment) 
backflush just enough to clear the drain.  Sometimes just stomping on the drain 
hose helps too. My 15-year-old WH is still OK although I did have to replace a 
corrugated copper flex hose (hot side) after it corroded through.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 4:47 PM
To: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
Cc: Allan Streib 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Water heater replacement

In my experience, the tanks always leak eventually. This has been the only 
reason I've ever needed to replace a water heater. But they last far longer 
than 5 years unless maybe you have some really corrosive water.

Also the tank will likely have a replaceable sacrificial anode, which most 
people are not aware of but if you replace that as needed, in theory the tank 
should not corrode.

The heater I replaced last week was original to the house, over 20 years old.

Allan


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:

> YOu know too there is like a 3yr and a 5yr warranty tank.  They are 
> the exact some unit, you're just paying for the additional warranty time.
>
> Replacing one is not hard if you have the tools and want to waste the 
> time chasing after it and dealing with it, but if this is a rental 
> then go ahead and pay the man, your time is likely more valuable (like 
> for working on cars!)
>
> --FT
>
> On 6/10/20 4:28 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> I’m getting quotes for the cheapest tank they can find. The sad part is I 
>> just bought a home warranty the other day because I figured the systems are 
>> all 15 years old and will start requiring replacement in the near future. I 
>> normally don’t do these but know several people with rentals and they say 
>> the warranties have paid for themselves. It doesn’t kick in until next month 
>> though.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 10, 2020, at 3:13 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> You know, for a rental I might be more inclined to call a plumber 
>>> and expense the cost. Depends how much time you have to fool with 
>>> it. Also if you hire a plumber then they are liable for the 
>>> installation being done correctly. Same reason I only work on my own 
>>> cars, not anyone else's.
>>>
>>> One more thing, if you don't have a pan under the heater, I would 
>>> add that, to prevent water damage when (not if) the tank eventually 
>>> starts leaking. Mine didn't have that originally, but it was near a 
>>> floor drain in the basement so I wasn't too worried. However the 
>>> floor was not sloped toward the drain enough so when the tank sprang 
>>> a leak, the water ran all over the place. I added a pan with a drain 
>>> pipe running directly to the floor drain.
>>>
>>> Allan
>>>
>>>
>>> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:
>>>
 It’s at the rental house and can’t remember what kind of pipe it is but 
 it’s in the garage closet and easy to get to. It’s natural gas.

 Sent from my iPhone

>> On Jun 10, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> Just did this a couple of weeks ago.
>
> Is your plumbing CPVC, copper, or something else?
>
> Gas or electric heater? Do you have good access to all the fittings?
>
> Mine was pretty straightforward. Replaced a natural gas heater 
> with same capacity natural gas. Though it was basically the same 
> size tank, the locations of the fittings were a little different. 
> I could have used flex connectors with push-on ("Sharkbite") 
> fittings to connect to the existing plumbing but I don't trust 
> Sharkbite fittings. I have CPVC plumbing so I cut, fit, and cemented new 
> pipe to connect the heater.
>
> Gas supply connection was also not exactly in the same place. It's 
> threaded black iron pipe. Had to buy a few new pieces to get it to 
> connect. Here again you can use a flexible connector to make that 
> easier, I opted not to since the prior heater did not have that.
>
> My water heater is a power vent (the exhaust pipe is PVC) so I had 
> to buy the same in the replacement. That adds a substantial amount 
> to the price but in theory it's more efficient.
>
> It took me a good half a day but I work slowly and deliberately. A 
> pro would probably have had it done in a hour or two.
>
> Allan
>
>
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:
>
>> Is this a simple diy or a big pain and requires a plumber?
>>
>> Sent from 

Re: [MBZ] Fw: A turning point for Allied victory

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Course based on a book with the same name by Victor Davis Hanson.  There are a 
series of Hanson interviews on YouTube.  Like all movies/videos the book is 
richer but the vids are great too:
www.youtube.com/results?search_query=victor+davis+hanson+the+second+world+wars+

For the last 75 years, the world enjoyed unprecedented prosperity and peace 
because of World Order created after and because of WWII.



> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Craig via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 2:30 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Craig 
> Subject: [MBZ] Fw: A turning point for Allied victory
> 
> For those who are interested in WWII.
> 
> The on-line free courses are available at https://online.hillsdale.edu.
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 07:34:39 -0400
> From: "Larry P. Arnn" 
> Subject: A turning point for Allied victory
> 
> Dear friend,
> 
> On this day in 1944, the largest seaborne invasion in history took place on 
> the
> beaches of Normandy as members of the Allied Powers stormed the coastline
> to fight against Nazi Germany.
> 
> This invasion was a key turning point for Allied victory in the Second World
> War, and it was a heroic—and costly—effort.
> 
> One way to honor the brave soldiers who fought in World War II is to study the
> conflict itself—its causes, the strategies used, and its implications on the
> present day.
> 
> To this end, Hillsdale College has produced an online course about the war,
> titled “The Second World Wars.” Many of your fellow Hillsdale supporters—
> 116,882—have already enrolled. This course is free, just like all of the 
> College’s
> online courses.
> 
> We’ve heard from many of our friends that wish to receive the course in DVD
> format. So I wanted to let you know that “The Second World Wars”
> course
> (https://info.hillsdale.edu/e2t/sc2/Mm-
> nFbkzv4cW8Xc4mb9lv_tKW7LkdhF81ySSyW9h9dxR6z_5vCf1HVPN203 ) is also
> available as a DVD boxed set for your home library or to give as a gift.
> 
> The DVD set provides an analysis of Allied and Axis investments and strategies
> in the air, on land, and at sea that led to the victory of the Allies.
> 
> I’ve included a secure link below where you can get this special edition of 
> “The
> Second World Wars” on DVD. Supplies are limited.
> 
> https://info.hillsdale.edu/e2t/sc2/Mm-
> nFbkzv4cW8Xc4mb9lv_tKW7LkdhF81ySSyW9h9dxR6z_5vCf1HVPN213
> (https://info.hillsdale.edu/e2t/sc2/Mm-
> nFbkzv4cW8Xc4mb9lv_tKW7LkdhF81ySSyW9h9dxR6z_5vCf1HVPN223 )
> 
> I hope you find this course as important and as fascinating as I do.
> 
> The strength and bravery of American soldiers during one of the darkest times
> in human history reminds me of how proud I am to be an American.
> 
> We owe our thanks to those who served and still serve.
> 
> Warm regards,
> 
> Larry P. Arnn
> 
> President, Hillsdale College
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Dichotomy

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Heathkit H89 all in one, 5MHz 8080, came with  GI Bill class.  I don't
count the Sinclair 2000.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I remember those days, had to decide if I wanted to buy a computer to do
> my thesis or buy a good typewriter to do it, about the same cost (or rough
> it and pay a typist).
>
> My first was an Apple II clone (Laser was the brand, I think) with two
> 5.25" floppy drives.  Had that for a few years and swapped up to a 286 with
> an amber monochrome monitor and two floppy drives by the time I was working
> on my PhD.  The Department had a HyType daisy wheel printer for final
> output, hand fed.  Quite chore printing a 90 page document.
>
> Good old days, eh?  Sometimes I think I prefer them, since I have to
> battle tomorrow to get the license fixed on some Agilent GC software,
> stupid hard drive crashed and I had to re-image the drive (Windows 10 is
> just as much a pain in the rear as Windows 286) wiping out my license
> file.  Naturally, the guy that set it up two years ago got himself fired
> and the digital copy he had is nowhere to be found
>
> Strangely it seems to be only honest people with these issues, the
> malevolent hacker types have all sorts of ways around such things
>
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Re: [MBZ] Crack in radiator

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

There used to be a kit with a close-fitting metal sleeve that was glued on the 
inside of the radiator outlet.  Don't know where it can be found.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> Cathey via Mercedes
> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 7:59 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Jim Cathey 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Crack in radiator
> 
> I'd trust JB-Weld for a repair, IFF you can splint over the crack.  That and 
> clean
> everything very well.  This assuming the crack was caused by trauma, and not
> the tinworm degrading the material.  (Plastic worm?)
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death: Can't trust the numbers

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Karl, The fault was mine.  Not the first time I "talked past" readers by
assuming we were thinking about the same thing.  

The real heros of this period are front-line medical folks who risk
themselves and use best judgement to help patients.  I'm just an old
kibitzer who is trying to understand what is happening to the nation, and
why.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 4:01 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Karl Wittnebel 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death: Can't trust the numbers

Sorry I have no idea how those stats are compiled or tracked.

On Tue, May 26, 2020, 2:21 AM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Karl,
> No argument with any of your points.
> Here's my point:  If nursing home patients get transported to a 
> hospital before they expire does it reduce the number of nursing home
deaths?
> If sick prison inmates are transported to a hospital, where they die 
> in a day or two.  Do those count as prison deaths or hospital deaths?
> Maybe I'm too cynical but I can think of political motivations for 
> reducing nursing home and prison numbers and for increasing the 
> general population numbers.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 12:40 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Karl Wittnebel 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death: Can't trust the numbers
>
> What should it be recorded as? The person died in the hospital.
>
> There will always be data irregularities but the idea the hospitals 
> are somehow systematically having doctors enter fraudulent codes on 
> death certificates is pure BS. 1) it's a felony, with no benefit to a 
> doctor to do that, 2) we test everyone and we know whether they have 
> covid 19 or not, so there is no uncertainty 3) the people who die of 
> covid pneumonia in hospital have imaging ample imaging and other 
> studies to back up their diagnoses.
>
> The idea that hospitals can somehow control what I write in a death 
> certificate is laughable. I have zero incentive to lie about anything. 
> The hospital doesnt get paid any more or any less whether someone has 
> pneumonia from covid or another virus. All this stuff is politically 
> motivated trolls casting aspersions on electronic media. It would not 
> surprise me if these ideas originate outside the US in many cases.
>
> Covid deaths at the beginning were vastly undercounted - not over counted.
> A glance at the excess monthly mortality by year tells the story. 
> People were dying but we had no way to diagnose them because even 
> hospitals could not do tests.
>
> On Sat, May 23, 2020, 4:35 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Yet another distortion of the numbers:  If a nursing home patient in 
> > NY gets COVID but is moved to a hospital before he/she dies it is 
> > not recorded as a nursing home death.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death: Can't trust the numbers

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Karl, 
No argument with any of your points.  
Here's my point:  If nursing home patients get transported to a hospital
before they expire does it reduce the number of nursing home deaths?
If sick prison inmates are transported to a hospital, where they die in a
day or two.  Do those count as prison deaths or hospital deaths? 
Maybe I'm too cynical but I can think of political motivations for reducing
nursing home and prison numbers and for increasing the general population
numbers.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 12:40 PM
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Cc: Karl Wittnebel 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death: Can't trust the numbers

What should it be recorded as? The person died in the hospital.

There will always be data irregularities but the idea the hospitals are
somehow systematically having doctors enter fraudulent codes on death
certificates is pure BS. 1) it's a felony, with no benefit to a doctor to do
that, 2) we test everyone and we know whether they have covid 19 or not, so
there is no uncertainty 3) the people who die of covid pneumonia in hospital
have imaging ample imaging and other studies to back up their diagnoses.

The idea that hospitals can somehow control what I write in a death
certificate is laughable. I have zero incentive to lie about anything. The
hospital doesnt get paid any more or any less whether someone has pneumonia
from covid or another virus. All this stuff is politically motivated trolls
casting aspersions on electronic media. It would not surprise me if these
ideas originate outside the US in many cases.

Covid deaths at the beginning were vastly undercounted - not over counted.
A glance at the excess monthly mortality by year tells the story. People
were dying but we had no way to diagnose them because even hospitals could
not do tests.

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> Yet another distortion of the numbers:  If a nursing home patient in 
> NY gets COVID but is moved to a hospital before he/she dies it is not 
> recorded as a nursing home death.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

In the final analysis, the kinds of things fmiser mentioned are much more
important than mine. 

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Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 12:51 AM


> Scott wrote:

> Collateral damage includes everything from suicide and drug use to 
> domestic violence, to delayed disease diagnosis, to delayed medical 
> procedures, to hospital near bankruptcy and unemployed health 
> professionals.  Then there are the economic impacts like unpaid bills 
> and social damage like lost education.

That doesn't even touch on the loss of liberty, intrusion on freedom, and
the "mommy state" telling us what we can and cannot do.  "Wear your jacket!"
"Don't go outside until you put on your Wellingtons!"  "I'm cold, you need
to wear a jacket."

Freedom means the individual gets to choose what they think is best - even
if they are wrong.

If someone feels they are at risk, they can stay home.  Or wear a mask.  Or
keep 12 ft away.  But don't force me to hide under my bed because you are
afraid, and I won't force you to leave your house and take off your
breathing mask.

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